ABSA u19 Currie Cup – Week 5 teams & results – Grant Hermanus starts

Grant Hermanus, Paarl Gim current fullback and 2013 Craven Week player of the Year will start on the wing for the WP that takes on EP in the under-19 competition today. Interestingly Paarl Gim has a game against Rondebosch tomorrow.

# EP KINGS u19 SCHOOL WP u19 SCHOOL
1 David Murray St Andrews 1 Kyle Whyte Rondebosch
2 Jayson Reinecke Cambridge 2 Martin Wipplinger Grey College
3 Thembelihle Yase Cambridge 3 Lebohang Mdakane Treverton
4 Gerrit Huisamen Grey HS 4 Ruan du Preez Die Brandwag
5 Sintu Manjezi St Andrews 5 FP Pelser Witteberg
6 CJ Velleman Grey HS 6 Charlton Jonas HJS Paarl BH
7 Tyler Paul St Andrews 7 Luke Stringer Rondebosch
8 Wynand Grassmann Despatch 8 Rikus Bothma Paarl Gim
9 Jason Baggott St Andrews 9 Brendon Nell Paarl Gim
10 Malcolm Jaer Die Brandwag 10 Ernst Stapelberg Framesby
11 Julio Abels Union 11 Grant Hermanus Paarl Gim
12 Vincent Moss Grey HS 12 Ryan Oosthuizen Paarl Gim
13 Lindelwe Zungu Piet Retief 13 Jarryd Sage Wynberg
14 Martin Keller DF Malan 14 Dewald Naude HJS Paarl BH
15 Cameron Hertz Kingswood 15 Heinrich Buhr Boland Landbou
16 JP Jamieson Kingswood/Grey HS 16 Hanno Snyman Oakdale
17 Mathew Jackson Westville 17 Mihlali Mtongana Dale
18 James Beyl Marlow 18 Francois vs Merwe HJS Paarl BH
19 Elandre vd Merwe Brandwag 19 Michael Teichmann Glenwood
20 Qhama Mvimbi Dale 20 Dylan Harlen Grey College
21 Jason Vers Union 21 Damian Stevens HJS Paarl BH
22 Kewan Gibb Queen’s 22 Brandon Thomson Ermelo
23 Mihlali Nchukana Dale 23 Adriaan Carelse Hottentots-Holl
LEOPARDS Last Week SCHOOL FREE STATE u19 SCHOOL
1 Farrel Kelly Drostdy 1 Ox Nche Louis Botha
2 Louis vd Westhuizen Namibia 2 Reinach Venter Waterkloof
3 Mogau Mabokela Ben Vorster 3 Gunther jv Vuuren Monument
4 Joshua van Niekerk Potch Volkskool 4 Johan Grundlingh Transvalia
5 Walt Steenkamp Rustenburg 5 SJ Roux Boland Landbou
6 Dolf van Deventer Sasolburg 6 Willandre Kotzenberg HTS Middelburg
7 Jacques van Zyl Noordheuwel 7 Junior Burger Duineveld
8 Tiaan Bezuidenhout Rustenburg 8 Jasper Wiese Upington
9 Wessel Kuhn Warmbad 9 TJ Goddard Tygerberg
10 Julian Delicado Grey College 10 Darren Barron Paarl Gim
11 Allen Muller HTS Middelburg 11 Lorenzo Gordon Oakdale
12 Gene Willemse Oakdale 12 Andre Swarts Grey College
13 Elden Schoeman Vereeniging Gim 13 Stephen Rautenbach Grey College
14 Sydney du Plessis Kempton Park 14 Gerrie Labuschagne Die Anker
15 Brendon Kahts Sentraal 15 Sechaba Matsoele Voortrekker (Beth)
16 Boyza Magalakangqa Louis Botha 16 Heinrich de Jongh Garsfontein
17 Roan Grobbelaar Helpmekaar 17 Johan Kotze Grey College
18 Louis Grey Potch Gim 18 Hendri Storm Outeniqua
19 Andre Potgieter Frikkie Meyer 19 Nardus Erasmus Waterkloof
20 Ferlin Vers HJS Paarl BH 20 Christiaan Erasmus Nelspruit
21 Akhona Nela Grey College 21 Carel Durow Grey College
22 Ray van der Lith Piet Retief 22 Arno van Staden Pietersburg
23 Michael Kruger EG Jansen 23 Chrisjan Roux Grey College
GOLDEN LIONS u19 SCHOOL BLUE BULLS u19 SCHOOL
1 Arnout Malherbe Transvalia 1 Xander van Wyk Waterkloof
2 Pieter Jansen EG Jansen 2 Francois Steyn Affies
3 Clinton Theron Florida 3 Johan van Wyk Waterkloof
4 Estian Enslin EG Jansen 4 Jason Jenkins St Albans
5 Matthew le Roux HJS Paarl BH 5 Burger van Niekerk HJS Paarl BH
6 Derik Bezuidenhout Affies 6 Martin Groenewald Grey HS
7 Dylan Vlok Monument 7 Calvonn Allison Affies
8 Vernon Peterson Paul Roos 8 Hanro Liebenberg Drostdy
9 Johan Esterhuizen Monument 9 Ivan van Zyl Affies
10 Shaun Reynolds Goudveld 10 Dewald Human Outeniqua
11 Johan Mitchell Affies 11 Duhan vd Merwe Outeniqua
12 Gerdus vd Walt Monument 12 Simon Bolze Queens
13 Xander Cronje EG Jansen 13 Peet Schoeman Marlow
14 Godfrey Ramaboa KES 14 Jixie Molapo Ben Vorster
15 Kobus Engelbrecht EG Jansen 15 Dimitrio Tieties Noord-Kaap
16 CJ Conradie Monument 16 Vuyo Khatide Maritzburg College
17 Marius Greyvensteyn EG Jansen 17 Njabula Gumede Maritzburg College
18 Roelof Diedericks Garsfontein 18 Stefaan Grundlingh Outeniqua
19 Divan Jonck Centurion 19 Denzil Hill Jeppe
20 Pieter Labuschagne EG Jansen 20 Theo Maree Ben Vorster
21 Ronald Brown Montagu 21 Remu Malan Outeniqua
22 Dwayne Pienaar Monument 22 Attie Louw Boland Landbou
23 Arne van Rensburg Garsfontein 23 Jurie Linde Affies

Report from SARugby.net
Bulls U19s back to winning ways, FS on the charge
August 10, 2014

The Vodacom Blue Bulls Under-19 side returned to winning ways in the Absa Under-19 Provincial Championship’s A-Division, scoring a good 36-11 away win over the Xerox Golden Lions at Ellis Park on Saturday, while the Toyota Free State extended their winning run by beating the Leopards 26-18 at Olënpark in Potchefstroom.

The DHL Western Province on Friday kept their perfect season intact by beating the EP Kings in Port Elizabeth, scoring four tries in the process.

The Free State side, which last week scored an upset win in Pretoria, has now moved to third on the log, just one point behind the Blue Bulls and four behind WP.

A summary of the weekend’s matches are:

Xerox Golden Lions 11 (6), Vodacom Blue Bulls 36 (22)

In Johannesburg, the Vodacom Blue Bulls regrouped well by beating the home side in a commanding performance. They showed much more enterprise on attack that last week, with flyhalf Dewald Human in fine form.

The Outeniqua-schooled back scored two tries in the win and ran the cutter with great authority, enjoying the platform laid by his hard-working forwards.

The five tries to one scored by the visitors reflected their dominance, especially in the first half. They scored three times in the opening 20 minutes and never really looked back after that.

Scorers:

Golden Lions (Under-19) 11 (6). Try: Gerdus van der Walt. Penalties: Kobus Engelbrecht (2).
Blue Bulls (Under-19). Tries: Dewald Human (2), Hanro Liebenberg, Matjikinyane Molapo (2). Conversions: Human (4). Penalty: Human.

Leopards 18 (5), Toyota Free State 28 (7).

The Free State started in perfect fashion by scoring a try in the second minute of the match, but scoring opportunities for the rest of the half proved difficult. The Leopards scored a late try in the half to reward some good work on attack, with the visitors going into the break with a slender lead.

It all changed early in the second half though as the Leopards were shown a yellow card. In the ten minutes that followed, the visitors scored twice and opened up a lead they never surrendered.

Scorers:

Leopards (Under-19) 18 (5). Tries: Ray van der Lith (2), Walt Steenkamp. Penalty: Brendon Kahts.
Free State (Under-19) 28 (7). Tries: Arno van Staden (2), Johan Grundlingh, Tyron Goddard. Conversions: André Swarts (2), Tyron Labuschagne.

EP Kings 10 (3), DHL Western Province 38 (16).

The visiting Capetonians had too much ammunition in their arsenal for the EP Kings, who held on well in the first half.

The home side battled to contain the impressive WP pack that laid a solid foundation and allowed their back some attacking space. WP flyhalf Ernst Stapelberg returned to his old stomping ground and reminded all the spectators of his kicking abilities, landing four penalties and two conversions.

The WP never had it their own way though and could only score their bonus point in the final play of the game.

Scorers:

EP Kings (Under-19) 10 (3). Try: CJ Velleman. Conversion: Malcolm Jaer. Penalty: Jaer.
WP (Under-19) 38 (16). Tries: Charlton Jonas, Dewald Naude, Heinrich Buhr, Rickus Bothma. Conversions: Ernst Stapelberg (2), Brandon Thomson. Penalties: Stapelberg (4).

•It was the opening weekend of the Absa Under-19 Provincial Championship’s B-Division as well.

In Welkom, Down Touch Griffons scored a 22-17 win over GWK Griquas, while in Kempton Park’s Barnard Stadium, the Valke had too much power for Border, winning 45-7.

26 Comments

  1. avatar
    #26 Tjoppa

    @Bull23: And to understand the might of the Bulls TUKS 1 whipped police with only 14 players for 50 odd minutes, Impressive indeed but everybody walked away from the game feeling that the game was a bit unfair.

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    13 August, 2014 at 06:11
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    #25 Tjoppa

    @Bull23: Had a long discussion with the old guard Saturday, @ Carlron Cup Finals, and all agreed – revive the amateur clubs and acknowledge them as a source of talent.
    The suggestion was that contracting at u/19 level should be limited with boys forced to play club rugby. Therefore opening the pool up and have more boys playing.
    The amateur clubs have a problem with teams like Tuks who is professional and an extension of the Bulls. There is talks that Tuks Fezelas and B underage group sides must be allowed to play Carlton Cup on the condition that only amateurs play for these sides. Unfortunately everyone knows that this will not happen. As we see some contracted Bulls players representing the Bulls Amateur sides in next week’s amateur week in Pietersburg. When money talks Honour walks – so true.

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    13 August, 2014 at 06:08
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    #24 Bull23

    @vatikaki: It is sad that so many good players don’t get game time. I believe that somewhere there must be a solution to keep these quality players in the system. The current contracting system is killing the game as the youngsters just stop playing rugby. Take for instance the Joyce twins of Waterkloof did not get contracts and they are now normal students not playing rugby. If we take the players in the WP squad as well as other squads with no or little game time and add a lot of talented players who left school at the end of last year without contracts we’ll be able to have a lot of potential provincial and springbok players. The player base in South Africa is not as big as we thought for a rugby grazy country and maybe that will catch up with us in the future.

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    12 August, 2014 at 21:56
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    #23 beet

    @beet: @vatikaki:

    Come to think of it, the Kings have two outstanding loose-forwards in CJ Velleman and Tyler Paul. I haven’t seen or heard anything about Grassmann but the fact that he’s able to keep big strong Elandre vd Merwe out of the starting lineup, suggests there must be something to worthwhile to his game.

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    12 August, 2014 at 18:37
  5. avatar
    #22 beet

    @vatikaki: I really feel for Dian Koen and Wiehan Jacobs if they are fit. Those are two players who looked like they were set to make a big impact on the junior rugby scene. It’s just where do players like that go to? There are so many good loosies around. Perhaps the Kings or Leopards would have been a better bet.

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    12 August, 2014 at 18:34
  6. avatar
    #21 RBugger

    @Vatikaki: That is a lot of players not playing top flight rugby. Surely it would be better off for them to go on loan to other weaker Unions – not in the CC to cause any upsets, but perhaps to a region like Border for instance? This would increase the level of professionalism in the weaker region and ultimetly, strengthen SA rugby??

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    12 August, 2014 at 14:46
  7. avatar
    #20 vatikaki

    @Bull23:

    – Thabani Mtsi I assume is injured.
    – Regardt Louw in behind Daniel du Plessis, Martin Wipplinger & it seems Hannes Snyman as well now.
    – Brett Paulse I assume is injured
    – Graham Geldenhuys behind 5 other locks in Ruan du Preez, Johan Momsen, Dylan Harlen, FP Pelser & Michael Teichmann. Notice he played nr. 8 for the Academy side on the weekend though.
    – David Ribbans in the same boat as Geldenhuys. Just back on the depth chart.
    – Christo van der Merwe sitting behind Charlton Jonas, Luke Stringer, Rikus Bothma & Michael de Waal. May see game-time soon perhaps.
    – Dian Koen same as Christo vd Merwe. Could see game-time soon.
    – Wiehan Jacobs probably injured.
    – Siya Alam sitting behind probable SA U20 flyhalf and a former SA Schools flyhalf in Ernst Stapelberg & Brandon Thomson.
    – Luan Boshoff also down the depth chart at flyhalf.
    – Dennis Cox is still at school.
    – Pieter Rossouw must be down the depth chart with 2 SA Schools wings in Hermanus & Zas, and then also Dewald Naude & Heinrich Buhr.
    – Sibahle Maxwane sitting behind 3 good centres so not likely to see game-time unless there are injuries.
    – Daylan Daniels also down the depth chart at wing.
    – Joel Heugh same story on the wing.
    – Khanyo Ngcukana must be injured.
    – EW Viljoen is injured.

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    12 August, 2014 at 13:06
  8. avatar
    #19 Bull23

    @vatikaki: It seems that you have a better change to get game time at the Bulls this year. What is the reason for the bulk of WP players not playing?

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    11 August, 2014 at 20:53
  9. avatar
    #18 vatikaki

    U19 B Division:
    Pumas 40 – 22 SWD
    Falcons 45 – 7 Border
    Griffons 21 – 17 Griquas

    Pumas look a side on the way up so hopefully their U19’s can win promotion (and they make the U19 & U21 competition an 8-team comp).

    Expecting the Leopards to win promotion to the Currie Cup next year at the expense of the Griquas so it’d be great if we mirrored all 3 competitions.

    The 6 Super Rugby franchises, the Pumas & the Leopards in all 3 Premier Division grades, who then have the same fixtures every week.

    At the very least have the 6 SR franchise teams fixtures match-up with each other.

    Fingers crossed someone at SARU is switched on.

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    10 August, 2014 at 08:58
  10. avatar
    #17 vatikaki

    U19 contracted players who have yet to see action this season.

    Bulls:
    Stephan Ebersohn – Prop/Lock, EP Craven Week
    Geor Malan – Openside, SWD Craven Week
    Abongile Nonkontwana – Lock/Blindside, Bulls Craven Week, SA Under-20
    Matthew Alborough – Scrumhalf, EP Craven Week
    Kurt Webster – Flyhalf, KZN Craven Week
    Mario Wilson – Winger, Paarl BHS 2nd XV
    Thys van Wyk – Winger, Affies

    Cheetahs:
    Joseph Dweba – Hooker, Border Craven Week, SA U20 – returned to school
    Ryno Gerber – Hooker, Sentraal
    Morne de Beer – Hooker, Fichardtpark
    Casper Fourie – Lock, Free State Craven Week, Played for Free State U19 last season.
    Refuoe Rampeta – Openside, Free State Craven Week, SA Schools
    Jandre Slabbert – Number-8, Affies
    Andries Kriek – Number-8, Free State Craven Week
    Ethan Sias – Winger, Bulls Craven Week
    Corne Vermaak – Fullback, KZN Craven Week

    EP Kings:
    Kweku Borsah – Lock, Cambridge
    Justin Hollis – Number-8, Border Craven Week
    Nick Beswick – Scrumhalf, Grey High
    Somila Jho – Centre, Border Craven Week – returned to school.

    Lions:
    CJ Greeff – Loosehead, Lions Craven Week
    Kerron van Vuuren – Hooker, KZN Craven Week
    Ernest Sumner – Tighthead, Griffons Craven Week
    Rholane Ncubuka, Falcons Craven Week
    Ethan Louw – Lock, Pretoria BHS
    Muharua Katjijeko – Openside, Namibia Craven Week
    Morne Swart – Blindside, Falcons Craven Week
    Jeandre Pitzer – Flyhalf, Centurion
    Fernando Kermis – Centre, Lions Craven Week
    Stefan le Roux – Centre, Monnas
    Richard Janse van Rensburg – Winger, Garsfontein
    Erwin Harris – Fullback, Lions Craven Week, Played for Lions U19 last season
    Abri Reynolds – Fullback, Monnas

    Sharks:
    Andrew du Plessis – Hooker, Free State Craven Week
    Petrus du Buson – Lock, HTS Middelburg
    Wandi Mazibuko – Blindside, KZN Craven Week

    Western Province:
    Thabani Mtsi – Loosehead, Border Craven Week, SA Schools
    ***Regardt Louw – Hooker, Paarl Gim
    Brett Paulse – Tighthead, Western Province Craven Week
    ***Graham Geldenhuys – Lock, Rondebosch
    David Ribbans – Lock, Somerset College
    ***Christo van der Merwe – Blindside, Paul Roos
    ***Dian Koen – Number-8, SWD Craven Week
    Wiehan Jacobs – Number-8, Lions Craven Week
    ***Siya Alam – Flyhalf, Western Province Craven Week
    ***Luan Boshoff – Flyhalf, Paarl BHS
    Dennis Cox – Flyhalf, Western Province Craven Week – returned to school.
    ***Pieter Rossouw – Winger, Paul Roos
    ***Sibahle Maxwane – Centre, Dale
    ***Daylan Daniels – Winger, Paarl BHS
    Joel Heugh – Winger, Paul Roos
    Khanyo Ngcukana – Fullback, Western Province Craven Week
    EW Viljoen – Fullback, Free State Craven Week, SA Schools

    ***All played for the WP Academy side against France over the weekend

    Players who played their first games this weekend:
    Bulls:
    – Desmond Stramis – Openside, Namibia Craven Week (hooker at Craven Week, played Openside on the weekend)
    Cheetahs:
    – Carl Durow – Centre, Grey College
    Lions:
    – Johan Labuschagne – Scrumhalf, Lions Craven Week, SA Schools 2012
    Western Province:
    – Francois van der Merwe – Tighthead, Western Province Craven Week
    – Brandon Thomson – Flyhalf, Pumas Craven Week, SA Schools
    – Grant Hermanus – Winger, Western Province Craven Week, SA Schools

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    9 August, 2014 at 23:55
  11. avatar
    #16 tzavosky

    @beet: Beet, OK, I see he is injured, but I have contact with close family of RG and I believe he is held in high regard with the Bulls. That’s where I recently heard that he is being fast tracked.

    No rush, though, the kid is talented and should make it big, barring injuries.

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    9 August, 2014 at 14:18
  12. avatar
    #15 Bull23

    RG is injured will be back next week. If it was not for his injury as well as Philip Orffer who has a hamstring problem, there would have been 9 Affies players in the 2 squads for todays match. Add WP and Morne from Cheetas and Thys and Heinrich – Bulls and the 2013 Affies team is well presented.

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    9 August, 2014 at 10:14
  13. avatar
    #14 beet

    @Djou:Having the reps is awesome but at the end of the day it’s still a team sport. Maybe more credit should go to the 1st XVs that performed well without having go to players. These schools possibly relied more on good team work and deserve more credit?

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    8 August, 2014 at 22:19
  14. avatar
    #13 beet

    @tzavosky: I went onto the Bulls website to retrieve the u19 team sheet and had a squizz at their u21 squad. No RG. The Bulls contracted some top SBR locks and then bought the likes of Willemse and Hattingh for their seniors as well, not to mention inviting Matfield back, so it’s a bit of a bottleneck in Pretoria at the moment. A few years back I reckoned Franco Mostert was a standout for their u21s but he’s had to find a new home in Jozi since. Bottom line it’s difficult to leapfrog in certain positions at Loftus at the moment.

    Here is the u21 team. Between Visser, Orie and blindside flank Kirsten, they have three SA u20 locks.

    Jacques Rossouw, Marquit September, Rohan Janse van Rensburg, Dan Kriel, Jade Stighling, Kobus Marais, JP Smith, Ruan Steenkamp, Jannes Kirsten, Roelof Smit, Marvin Orie, Dennis Visser, Neethling Fouche, Arno van Wyk, Mox Mxoli. Replacements: Jan Enslin, Pierre Schoeman, Jean Droste, Christiaan de Bruin, Carlo Engelbrecht, Joshua Stander, Leighton van Wyk.

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    8 August, 2014 at 22:12
  15. avatar
    #12 tzavosky

    @Woltrui: Regarding RG, did you perhaps checked the u.21 squad? I’ve heard he’s being fast tracked for higher honours, so it may well be the case.

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    8 August, 2014 at 21:07
  16. avatar
    #11 Djou

    @Beet: @BuffelsCM: I agree – 5 is very good and 7, well, then it must have been a real top team.
    Made me think. I guess another way to rank a school is in the next year – when we see the number of representatives in the u.19 and u.21 squads.
    Would be interesting to rank in this way.

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    8 August, 2014 at 19:10
  17. avatar
    #10 BuffelsCM

    @beet: Absolutely Beet!! Guys like Gavin v d Berg, Wayno Visagie and Leaviel Gouws played first team last year too – it means that the conversion rate (of those that have left school) is exceptional IMO

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    8 August, 2014 at 15:53
  18. avatar
    #9 beet

    @Djou: @BuffelsCM: I would still say 5 is a very good representation to have. 7 is brilliant.

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    8 August, 2014 at 15:00
  19. avatar
    #8 beet

    @Woltrui: RG must be injured. He has been a 1st choice up until now.

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    8 August, 2014 at 14:57
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    #7 BuffelsCM

    @BuffelsCM: Johan Momsen is injured according to the WP website and is therefore not available this weekend.

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    8 August, 2014 at 14:04
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    #6 BuffelsCM

    @Djou: Don’t forget about Jacques Vermeulen and JD Schickerling that are playing WP U/21.

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    8 August, 2014 at 13:58
  22. avatar
    #5 Woltrui

    Beet do you by any chance know if RG Snyman, the regular no 5 for the Bulls is injured? I see he is not in the BB/19 squad :?:

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    8 August, 2014 at 13:41
  23. avatar
    #4 valke

    Tough weekend for the Lions, but you can do it !

    13 ; 11 ; 15 probably where Bulls has the advantage

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    8 August, 2014 at 13:36
  24. avatar
    #3 Djou

    Paarl Gim last year’s top school only has 5 players in all the teams, including Grant Hermanus. Is that the conversion rate of a top school to provincial senior age group teams?
    Hermanus will be a Springbok! No doubt in my mind about it! All aspects of his play just show the class in the boy!!!!

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    8 August, 2014 at 13:20
  25. avatar
    #2 beet

    @iRugby: Thanks for this input.

    I must say over the years I’ve witnessed many schoolboys turning out for their u19 provinces but this is the 1st time I can remember a school player being released by his school to play provincial rugby when they have a match on the same weekend. Times are indeed changing.

    Anyway an exception in Hermanus’s case is probably justified because most people close to pro rugby will agree that it is extremely difficult for a player that turns 19 at school to make it in senior rugby. Losing out on that year of being a full time junior player is huge and takes a lot of effort to catch up. Very few u19s at school make it in rugby so I welcome efforts to bridge the gap.

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    8 August, 2014 at 10:38
  26. avatar
    #1 iRugby

    @Beet .Grant Hermanus is a contracted player at Province and part of the arrangement was that he will be released from school duties rugbywise to play in the Currie Cup after Interschools.He was rehabilitated from his injury by Johan van Wyk at WPRI in the July school holidays to be ready for Interschools.If it was not for van Wyk he would not have been ready for Interschools

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    8 August, 2014 at 09:46

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