| SLOT | DATE | SCHOOL | SCHOOL | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Thu.13Apr | Kearsney | 17 | 45 | Drostdy |
| 2 | Thu.13Apr | Selborne | 46 | 19 | EG Jansen |
| 3 | Thu.13Apr | Queen’s | 15 | 22 | Pretoria BH |
| 4 | Thu.13Apr | Monument | 33 | 16 | Dale |
| 5 | Thu.13Apr | Glenwood | 21 | 10 | Framesby |
| 6 | Thu.13Apr | HTS Middelburg | 21 | 19 | Noord-Kaap |
| 1 | Sat.15Apr | Noord-Kaap | 31 | 14 | Queen’s |
| 2 | Sat.15Apr | Pretoria BH | 05 | 60 | Selborne |
| 3 | Sat.15Apr | Kearsney | 23 | 00 | Framesby |
| 4 | Sat.15Apr | EG Jansen | 19 | 24 | Glenwood |
| 5 | Sat.15Apr | Dale | 25 | 26 | Drostdy |
| 6 | Sat.15Apr | Monument | 40 | 08 | HTS Middelburg |
| 1 | Mon.17Apr | Drostdy | 29 | 05 | Pretoria BH |
| 2 | Mon.17Apr | Framesby | 29 | 21 | EG Jansen |
| 3 | Mon.17Apr | HTS Middelburg | 21 | 22 | Dale |
| 4 | Mon.17Apr | Glenwood | 25 | 20 | Noord-Kaap |
| 5 | Mon.17Apr | Selborne | 12 | 19 | Monument |
| 6 | Mon.17Apr | Kearsney | 24 | 13 | Queen’s |
TEAMS
DAY 1
MATCH 6
HTS MIDDELBURG 21 – 19 HOERSKOOL NOORD-KAAP
The final match on the first day of KERF was keenly contested by HTS Middelburg and Hoerskool Noord-Kaap. Middelburg had the better of the early exchanges but as the game progressed Noord-Kaap grew in confidence. At halftime it was HTS who had scored two tries, to the one of Noord-Kaap.
The scoring was opened by Middelburg when flyhalf Morne Sonnekus kicked a long penalty. Noord-Kaap backs showed a lot of pace and it came as no surprise when fullback Cameron Hufke picked up a loose ball and beat the defence for a 5-3 lead.
Andries Koen made a good break to put HTS in front again and before the break the heavier HTS forwards set up a maul from a penalty close to the try line. They rolled forward with lock Dolf Rossouw barging over and putting his side into a 13-5 halftime advantage. Noord-Kaap scored first in the second half after Yaseer Daniels used pace to go over near the touchline.
Hufke, with a brilliant conversion in the conditions, narrowed the gap to a single point. Sonnekus kicked a three pointer and shortly thereafter HTS hooker and captain Duart Willemse did well to squirm over to increase their lead to 21-12.
Both teams were enterprising in the last quarter with the ball moving through numerous hands and defences holding.
Noord-Kaap prop Conrad Aswegen had made some telling runs and, with minutes to play, he had another; breaking through the defensive line and passing to centre Wium Becker who dived over this time, giving Hufke an easy conversion to narrow the gap to two points with two minutes remaining.
In the dying seconds Noord-Kaap had possession and very nearly took victory away from HTS. But it was the Middelburg team who narrowly won 21-19.
Point scorers:
HTS Middelburg: Tries: Koen, Rossouw, Willemse; Penalties: Sonnekus (2)
Noord-Kaap: Tries: Hufke, Daniels, Becker; Conversions: Hufke (2)
MATCH 5
GLENWOOD 21 – 10 HOERSKOOL FRAMESBY
The wind brought rain which affected ball handling, making it sufficiently greasy for passes to be dropped. Towards the end of the game the rain became heavier, so much of the play was amongst the forwards. Framesby did not give up and spent most of the last 10 minutes in the Glenwood half.
There were some big tackles by both sides as play moved from end to end. Glenwood arguably held the ascendancy, but Framesby won enough loose ball to make their own forays towards the Glenwood line.
The Durban side went into the lead after 10 minutes when left wing Morne van Rensburg managed to burst through for a five pointer. He converted his own try.
Framesby flyhalf Riaan van Rensburg replied with a penalty but neither side could get away. With the halftime whistle imminent, centre Grayson Ditlow went over after an attack down the left hand touchline. It was converted by Van Rensburg for the Port Elizabeth boys to lead 10-7 at the break.
In the second half Glenwood grew in confidence and their flyhalf Dylan Pretorius snaked through again, with a conversion by Van Rensburg, for a 14-10 lead.
Framesby came close to scoring but the Glenwood defensive patterns were sound and, when Glenwood got back into the Framesby half, a bullocking run by JJ van der Mescht created some space and two passes later, Van Rensburg saw the tryline, to score his second try. His conversion put Glenwood 21-10 in front.
Glenwood held on and with numerous changes occurring, some due to injury, the local team managed a 21-10 win.
Point scorers:
Glenwood: Tries: M van Rensburg (2), Pretorius; Conversions: Van Rensburg (3)
Framesby: Tries: Ditlow; Conversion: R van Rensburg; Penalty: Van Rensburg
MATCH 4
MONUMENT 33 – 16 DALE COLLEGE
Monument, with a very large pack of forwards, dominated the early stages of the fourth game. Dale had to feed on scraps but, as the first half grew longer, so they started getting more ball. Missed opportunities by Monnas frustrated the players and helped Dale to keep in touch.
Dale opened the scoring with a well struck penalty by fullback and captain Aphelele Fassi. Monument struck back immediately, as their forwards moved up field and, from a ruck close to the tryline, flank Tristan Dullisear dived over. The try was converted by Jonathan Viljoen for a 7-3 lead.
Monument continued to have the lion’s share of possession, winning lineouts with comparative ease and dominating the tight phases. From a scrum, a well-rehearsed move saw the ball spinning wide and No 8 PJ Jacobs took an inside pass to go over. Viljoen added the extra points and a 14-3 lead midway through the half. A mistake ensued by Dale when an attack was picked up by centre Luke Rossouw and he went over under the posts. With the conversion by Viljoen, things looked ominous for Dale, now 3-21 behind.
A second Fassi penalty from a long way out lifted the Dale spirits. They began to get more possession and, with a move where the ball was kept in hand, flank Buhle Qaba went over on half time. The conversion into the wind went wide but Dale had narrowed the gap to 11-21 at the break.
In the second half, with 21 minutes remaining, a Dale player was red carded for a punch, but Dale did not give up. This was followed by a Monument player being sent off with a yellow card, meaning both sides had 14 players. Dale came back with a try by hooker Mikhaya Sonqishe.
From a lineout Monnas flank PJ Jacobs taking the ball at the back, went over for an unconverted try for a 26-16 lead.
Dale with one man less held on while Monument made crucial mistakes. In referees’ time Monument’s Larko Lindes drove over, giving Monument a 33-16 win.
Point scorers:
Monument: Tries: Rossouw, Jacobs (2), Dulliseam, Lindes; Conversions: Viljoen (4)
Dale: Tries: Qaba, Sonquishe; Penalties: Fassi (2)
MATCH 3
QUEEN’S COLLEGE 15 – 22 PRETORIA BOYS HIGH
The third match of the festival, a tightly contested game between Queen’s College and Pretoria Boys High, was without the plethora of tries seen in the first two matches. Queen’s, back at the festival for the first time since 2009, held on despite giving away penalties that kept newcomers PBHS in the game; until the final minute where the boys from Pretoria got over for a win.
Queen’s had the majority of possession in the first half, although most of the play took place between the two 22m areas.
Queen’s opened the scoring with a penalty by flyhalf Keith Kroutz. Both teams were quick to recycle ball, but the defences on both sides held. On one of the rare occasions that either side got close to the try-line, it was the Queen’s forwards who drove over and they were awarded a touch-down. This gave them an 8-0 lead.
Pretoria’s flyhalf Tayne Rivas converted a 40m penalty and then, on the stroke of halftime, a second easier penalty, to take them into halftime 6-8 behind.
Early in the second half a pass that didn’t go to hand enabled Queen’s centre Ilano Smith to kick ahead. A kind bounce and a sprint for the line enabled Queen’s to score their second try, with a good conversion in blustery conditions by Kroutz.
Rivas was also successful with his third penalty to narrow the gap to 9-15. PBHS then had a five-minute period of attack in the 22m area. They were awarded a number of penalties but Queen’s did not back down. Eventually Pretoria added another three points when Geordie Collaros was successful.
PBHS had the opportunity of a long penalty to win the game with a minute to go, but the ball struck the upright. Their captain and eighth man Chris du Toit then broke through and used his long strides to get close to the poles, giving his team a dramatic 22-15 win after Collaros’ conversion
Point scorers:
Queen’s: Tries: Forwards, Smith; Conversion: Kroutz; Penalty: Kroutz
PBHS: Try: Du Toit; Conversion: Collaros; Penalties: Rivas (3), Collaros (2)
MATCH 2
SELBORNE COLLEGE 46 – 19 DR EG JANSEN
Selborne showed that they will be one of the top sides at the festival this year when they played enterprising rugby, and were fast to capitalise on mistakes. EG Jansen will be disappointed by their errors which gifted some points to Selborne. It was a good game with Selborne flair giving them a 46-19 win.
The game was just five minutes old when Selborne lock Stephan Nieuwenhuizen burst through the defence to score an unconverted try for an early 5-0 lead. Selborne were much more cohesive in their pattern of attack. EG Jansen were very disjointed on the other hand and, when their forwards did win the ball, the backline could not get over the advantage line.
This enabled the East London side to dominate and score a further three tries before half time. Scrumhalf Mitchell Connellan sniped over; and flyhalf David Coetzer went over after a handling mistake by EG Jansen. Both were converted by captain Coetzer.
Coetzer was again involved as he made an inside pass from a half gap to No 8. Adam Mountfort for the fourth try under the posts. This was converted, to give Selborne a 24-0 half-time lead.
Within the first minute of the second half Selborne, playing with 14 players after a yellow card late in the first half, had recycled the ball from a ruck to left wing. Afrika Ndinisa scored in the corner to increase the lead to 29-0.
With a number of changes, EG Jansen began looking more cohesive and used their forwards to pick and drive, ending in a try for lock Dominique McArthur, converted by Dylan Schwartz.
Scrumhalf Connellan scored his second, Coetzer converted a penalty and Sibahle Khulani went over under the crossbar. Coetzer added the two points for a 39-7 lead. Regular flyhalf Ruben Beytell came on in the second half and showed that he had been missed when he had a determined run to dot down after a 25m run.
EG Jansen’s third try went to fullback Franco van Eeden after some good interplay between the backs.
Selborne struck back immediately and the impressive flyhalf showed his skills by again scoring in the corner and converting from the touchline for their impressive 46-19 win.
Point Scorers:
Selborne College: Tries: Kuhlane, Ndinisa, Coetzer (2), Connellan, Mountfort, Nieuwenhuizen; Conversions: Coetzee (3); Penalty: Coetzee (1)
Dr EG Jansen: Tries: Van Eeden, McArthur, Bytell; Conversions: Schwartz
MATCH 1
KEARSNEY COLLEGE 17 – 45 HTS DROSTDY
HTS Drostdy, playing for the first time at the Standard Bank Kearsney Easter Rugby Festival, certainly produced some good festival rugby with hard running backs and strong forwards to win the first game 45-17. Early mistakes by both sides were eliminated and a good game yielded ten tries, seven by Drostdy.
Playing in warm breezy conditions, it took a little time for Drostdy to settle down and a timely try by Kearsney fullback James Sutherland gave the hosts an early 5-0 lead.
Much of the play was in the centre of the field with early-season mistakes by both sides preventing either team from dominating. Defence patterns were sound and although Kearsney were making some good turnover, mistakes at vital times prevented possible points.
An attempted kick through while on attack was prevented and instead Drostdy centre Christie Grobbelaar toed the ball a number of times and beat the defence to dot down for a five pointer, converted by fullback Cohen Jasper, putting the visitors 7-5 in the lead.
The game came alive in the last three minutes of the first half when Drostdy scored three times to take a commanding lead in what had been an even match at that stage.
The first of this trio went to second time scorer Grobbelaar when a relieving kick was charged down. The second, when fullback Jasper joined the line, forced a break and some passes found centre Keanu Mong, who dotted down under the posts.
From the kick-off the Drostdy forwards won the ball and scrumhalf captain Romeo Eksteen broke through a tackle to score. It was converted by Jasper to leave Drostdy 26-5 ahead.
The second half saw some brilliant rugby, initially by Kearsney who narrowed the gap to 17-26 by scoring two tries. The first was by Robbie Koenig with a determined run to score in the corner and the second by eighth man Dylan Richardson, who found his way over next to the upright. This was converted by Sutherland.
As in the first half, Drostdy got stronger towards the end and scored three tries in the last six minutes. Mong scored his second by rounding the defence. A brilliant conversion from the touchline by Jasper put them 33-17 in front.
Scrumhalf Eksteen and flank CJ van Rensburg scored the final two tries to leave the visitors convincing winners in an exciting opening festival game.
Point Scorers:
Kearsney: Tries: Sutherland, Koenig, Richardson; Conversions: Sutherland
HTS Drostdy: Tries: Grobbelaar (2), Mong (2), Eksteen, Van Rensburg, Jasper; Conversions: Jasper (5)
DAY 2
MATCH 6
HTS MIDDELBURG 8 – MONUMENT 35
The final match of the second day saw two sides known for their physicality playing one another just 10 days after meeting at the end of the first term. In that match HTS Middelburg (the Witbulle) was successful by just two points. Monument, however, were very committed to reverse the result and they did – with interest.
From the kick-off the fullback Barend Jansen van Rensburg was nearly successful chasing the ball at pace but just knocked it on. Thereafter it was cut and thrust as the two sides attempted to gain ascendancy. A penalty apiece, first by Jonathan Viljoen from Monument and minutes later by Morne Sonnekus, left them at 3-all.
PJ Jacobs, Monnas captain and No 8, scored the first try when he went over following a set phase, and the 8-3 lead went to the Witbulle. Monnas was looking the stronger unit and not allowing HTS much freedom. They increased their lead to 11-3 with another penalty by Viljoen. HTS, the Rooibulle, won good ball through an intercept by hooker Morne Brandon. He beat the defence to the line and, with the Viljoen conversion successful, Middelburg’s lead was stretched to 18-3 at half-time.
A mistake by Middelburg led to the first try of the second half when scrumhalf Tinus Combrinck slipped through a gap running 15m to score. Viljoen converted and shortly thereafter slotted a penalty for Monument to stretch their lead.
Middelburg scored a try from a 5m penalty with a pick and dive when prop Brandon Pienaar was forced over.
Monnas’ scrumhalf Combrinck sniped over from the base of a ruck for another Monument try. With Viljoen’s conversion successful, the Witbulle won 35-8.
Point scorers:
HTS Middelburg: Try: Pienaar; Penalty: Sonnekus
Monument: Tries: Prinsloo, Jacobs, Brandon, Combrinck (2); Conversions: Viljoen (2); Penalties: Viljoen (2)
MATCH 5
Dale College 25 – HTS Drostdy 26
With both the King Williams Town team, Dale College, and the team from Worcester, HTS Drostdy, feeling one another out, it took 13 minutes before there was any score. Drostdy’s heavier pack of forwards began winning more of the possession. From a scrum, scrumhalf Romeo Eksteen made a break to score a five pointer.
Drostdy kept pressurising Dale, preventing them showing their normal flare and with Drostdy growing in confidence they were rewarded when fullback Cohen Jasper broke from a ruck through the middle, evetually going over without a Dale finger touching him. An easy conversion by Jasper saw Drostdy into a 12-0 lead.
This they increased to 19-0 when left wing Adriaan Maans had a 45m run down the left touchline and, with inside and outside jinxes, went over 10m from the upright. Jasper converted to give the Western Cape lads a 19-0 halftime lead.
Dale came out in the second half with greater determination. Very few scrums enabled them to get clean ball as Drostdy forwards had them retreating. Despite this, the Dalians persevered and were rewarded when the ball was moved quickly to centre Siphamandla Matsinya who sliced through the defence to score. It was converted by captain Aphelele Fassi to narrow the gap to 7-19.
The more the game was unstructured, the more it suited Dale. Their rush defence prevented Drostdy getting over the line and when they worked their way down the right hand to force a ruck in the corner, eighth man Thandile Mpangeva scored with a pick and go. Fassi could not convert but Dale were now within seven points of the Drostdy score.
With six minutes remaining, Dale’s Soyama Mini used good pace down the touchline, passing inside to centre Matsinya who drove through a tackle to score. With Fassi converting, the scores were level.
Within four minutes of the end, Dale were awarded a penalty which Fassi converted; and on the final whistle, Fassi put over a 45m drop goal for a 25-19 lead.
As the final whistle went, Christie Grobbelaar broke and evaded the defence to score. Jasper converted to snatch a 26-25 victory for Drostdy.
This ended a good comeback from Dale in the second half where they played the rugby that the crowd expected. However, it was Drostdy that made an ultimate effort in the last 30 seconds to win a cracking game.
Point scorers:
HTS Drostdy: Tries: Jasper, Grobbelaar, Maans, Eksteen; Conversions: Jasper (3)
Dale College: Tries: Matsinya (2), Mpangeva; Conversions: Fassi (2); Penalties: Fassi (2)
MATCH 4
EG Jansen 19 – Glenwood 24
The fifth match saw Glenwood on attack from the kick-off. They maintained early pressure on EG Jansen but could not convert pressure into points.
Gradually the Boksburg side started spreading the ball preferring to move the ball through the hand rather than kicking. Just going into the second quarter EG Jansen were awarded a kickable penalty but they kicked for the corner. From the lineout, they mauled the ball over the line and lock Reinhardt Venter was driven over to score. EG Jansen led 5-0.
Minutes later good ball from the back of the lineout was moved out to the left, which eventually led to flyhalf Ruben Beytell diving over. He converted to take the score to 12-0.
Just before halftime Glenwood moved the ball from a ruck and lock JJ van der Mescht made a bullocking 20 metre run and, when stopped, fullback Rynardt Jonker drew defences and passed to wing Janus Hendrikz who scored Glenwood’s first points for them to trail 7-12 at the drinks break.
Glenwood changed their tactics in the second half moving the ball quickly, handling well and running at the EG Jansen defence. Passing the ball before going to ground, they scored three brilliant tries. No 8 Dylan Kruger scored the first when he was on hand to pick up a pass and dive over near the posts for a second conversion by Morne van Rensburg.
The second try came after quick interplay between backs and forward with Hendrikz going over for his second try. They continued passing quickly and flyhalf Dylan Pretorius found himself receiving the ball on the outside. He had the pace to evade the covering defence and just failed with his conversion. But Glenwood now had a comfortable 24-12 lead.
The final seven or eight minutes was spent in the Glenwood half as EG Jansen attempted to improve their points. This came close but a knock-on on the line prevented the try. They did not give up and from a penalty centre Dylan Schwartz managed to go over with a couple of Glenwood defenders on his back. This was converted by Beytell to leave Glenwood a very satisfying 24-19 win.
Point scorers:
EG Jansen: Tries: Beytell, Venter, Schwartz; Conversions: Beytell (2)
Glenwood: Tries: Hendrikz (2), Pretorius, Kruger; Conversions: Van Rensburg (2)
MATCH 3
Kearsney 23 – 0 Framesby
This was a match again between two sides who lost on Thursday, but it did not reach the height of the two previous matches. The home side dominated the forward exchanges whilst Framesby had to feed off scraps. Thus the ball seldom went out to the wings, making it easier for Kearsney to defend.
A penalty by James Sutherland, playing at centre in this game, put the team into a 3-0 lead. Seven minutes later it was Sutherland who went through a gap and used his pace to score in the corner. He converted well, for his side to lead 10-0.
Left wing Robbie Koenig, always looking dangerous with the ball in hand, managed to toe the ball forward with his right boot, and then again with his left, picking up the ball just short of the try line to go over for Kearsney’s second try. This was again converted by Sutherland to lead 17-0.
Just before halftime Sutherland converted his second penalty for the hosts to go into the break 20-0 up.
Framesby won more ball in the second half and, as they come from the windy city Port Elizabeth, they should be used to playing in a wind. But they continued to make mistakes in the cross-field wind.
Despite pressure from Framesby in the Kearsney half, Framesby attacked by trying to break through with their forwards close to the breakdown. Kearsney was able to defend, preventing any points by the opposition.
Sutherland kicked another penalty, taking his personal points tally for the game to 18.
Point scorers:
Kearsney: Tries: Sutherland, Koenig; Conversions: Sutherland (2); Penalties: Sutherland (3)
Framesby: 0
MATCH 2
Selborne College 58 – 5 Pretoria Boys High
Selborne, who had dominated in their first match, were kept at bay by Pretoria for the first 10 minutes and the latter missed a relatively easy penalty to go ahead.
This galvanised Selborne and they starved PBHS of possession with their No 8 dominant in the tight loose. Selborne’s scoring was opened with a penalty by scrumhalf Mitchell Connellan. Two tries back to back followed; the first by fullback Jason Raubenheimer and converted by Connellan for a 10-0 lead.
Immediately on attack from the kick-off the ball again came wide and centre Sibabalwe Xamlashe beat defenders to score. Again Connellan was successful with the extra points for a 17-0 lead with Pretoria starved of the ball Selborne continued pressurising and impressive left wing Afika Ndinisa rounded the defence to score. Connellan converted for a 24-0 lead.
The East Londoners were not finished and it was Ndimisa again, this time with more work to do, as he sidestepped his way through two tackles to score. Connellan’s successful conversion took Selborne into a 31-0 lead at halftime.
It took 10 minutes for Selborne to open their scoring in the second half. Replacement scrumhalf Thomas Bursey darted over from a ruck close to the line. This was well converted by David Coetzer who had just come on to the field – for a 38-0 lead.
PBHS managed to work their way up field and when awarded a penalty 10m out they ran it and, from a succeeding ruck, the ball came out and flank Slade Guy stretched to dot down.
Selborne replied immediately getting back on attack and, with 14 players after a yellow card, they won the ball, moved it left, and some deft passes ended with Bursey going over for his second try and a 39-5 lead.
Coetzer was soon to make a difference and when a pass was dropped with PBHS 30m out, Coetzer was quick to pick up the ball and sprint 60 metres to score under the sticks and convert for a 46-5 lead. Selborne added two further tries in the last five minutes by hooker Mark Venter and wiry Miles Morton, converted by Coetzer for a 58-5 win.
Selborne illustrated with this good win that they will be difficult to beat in the forthcoming season.
Point Scorers:
Selborne: Tries: Raubenheimer, Xamlashe, Ndinisa (2), Bursey (2), Coetzer, Venter, Norton; Conversions: Connellan (3), Coetzer (2); Penalty: Connellan
Pretoria Boys High: Tries: Try: Guy
MATCH 1
Hoerskool Noord-Kaap 31 – Queen’s College 14
Having narrowly lost their games on Thursday, both Noord-Kaap and Queen’s came out keen for a win in the first game on day two of the festival.
The two sets of big forwards were evenly matched but as the half progressed, so Noord-Kaap began winning a greater share of the ball. The three-quarters swung the ball from touchline to touchline, and the pressure told as Noord-Kaap scored five times in the first half. Queen’s only got close to the Noord-Kaap tryline once, but the Noord-Kaap defence was resolute.
Captain and flank Edrich Brand opened the scoring toward the end of the first quarter, converted by Cameron Hufke. The backs then came into their own, running the Queen’s defence awry. Left wing Maurice Amerika made a good break from midfield and he rounded the Queen’s defence to score for an easy conversion by Hufke.
Centre Yaseer Daniels was next to add a fiver pointer as he received a long pass and he beat the defence to score in the corner for a 19-0 lead.
The final two tries went to fullback Hufke after good pressure and again the Queen’s defence let him through on the left. He was unable to convert his own try. Finally, to complete the first half scoring spree, right wing Andries Jacobs went over in the left corner. This time Hufke added the extra points and Noord-Kaap had a handsome 31-0 lead at the break.
Some stern talking by the Queen’s coaches saw them start winning ball and spending more time in the Noord-Kaap half.
This resulted in Queen’s forwards pressurising on the Noord-Kaap line. A ruck close to the line saw lock and captain Aaron Brody coming up with the ball. Keith Kroutz made no mistake with the wide conversion giving Queen’s their first points. It had taken them 11 minutes in the second half to trail 7-31.
The Eastern Cape boys continued to play the better rugby in the second half. A kick through when on attack saw Noord-Kaap pressurised into dotting down after carrying the ball back into the in-goal area. From the succeeding 5m scrum, the ball was swung and flyhalf Kroutz gifted through a gap to score under the uprights and converted to narrow the gap to 14-31.
With 10 minutes left on the clock, it was probably not enough time to get a win, but they continued to have the lion’s share of possession and territory.
The game ended with Noord-Kaap winning 31-14 but Queen’s showed great determination to come back and win the second half scoring two tries to nil.
Point Scorers:
Hoerskool Noord-Kaap: Tries: Hufke, Jacobs, Daniels, Amerika, Brand; Conversions: Hufke (3)
Queen’s College: Tries: Kroutz, Brody; Conversions: Kroutz (2)
DAY 3
MATCH 6
KEARSNEY COLLEGE 24 – 13 QUEEN’S COLLEGE
After 10 minutes neither Kearsney nor Queen’s College, in the final game of the 2017 festival, had wrested control of the game, as though they were feeling one another out. Going into the second quarter Keith Kroutz was successful with a penalty and a short while later a second longer penalty for Queen’s to take the lead 6-0.
Towards the end of the first half, with Kearsney looking more dangerous with ball in hand, they moved it across field to the left where James Sutherland made metres to dive over in the corner. This took Kearsney into the break 5-6 behind.
Early in the second half Kearsney captain Dylan Richardson cut through defences from broken play to score; converted by Sutherland to wrest the lead 12-7. From a line-out close to the Kearsney line, Queen’s formed a rolling maul and rambled over with hooker Gareth Heidtmann scoring. Kroutz had gone off injured, so replacement kicker Kenan Richards slotted the angled conversion and take back the lead 13-12.
The lead changed once again as Kearsney flyhalf Jacques Odendaal burst through a dive over under the posts. Sutherland converted and Kearsney led 19-13. This lead was extended five minutes from the final whistle, when Brendan Albertse dived over to take Kearsney into a 24-13 lead.
It was fitting that the home side won their second game to end the festival which had produced some top class rugby on each day.
Point scorers:
Kearsney: Tries: Sutherland, Odendaal, Richardson, Albertse; Conversions: Sutherland (2)
Queen’s: Tries: Heidtmann; Conversion: Richards; Penalties: Kroutz (2)
MATCH 5
SELBORNE COLLEGE 12 – 19 MONUMENT
Neither Selborne nor Monument, playing in the penultimate game of the festival, had lost a game and thus another mouth-watering contest was expected. Selborne dominated territory for the first 10 minutes but David Coetzer missed a penalty for Selborne to go ahead. When Monument did get into the Selborne half, they had an opportunity to take a lead when awarded a penalty, but this also went wide.
Monument maintained pressure and a good line kick went out 5m from the Selborne line. The ruck that developed from the lineout saw Monument turn over possession and the ball was picked up by scrumhalf Tinus Combrink who darted over. Jonathan Viljoen made certain of the kick and Monument led 7-0.
Within the last minute before halftime Monnas hooker Morne Brandon went over, following a lineout set up by a good run down the touchline by Viljoen. The conversion was wide but the Krugersdorp team went into the drinks break leading 12-0.
Up until this game, Selborne had been dominant but now they had a massive half ahead of them. They would have to be the next side to score.
Ten minutes into the half, Coetzer was pinpoint from a penalty midfield, putting the ball out just short of the tryline. A rolling maul was set up from the lineout and hooker Mark Venter went over in the pile of bodies. Coetzer split the uprights with his conversion and Selborne were back in the game 7-12 behind.
Monument maintained their structures and used the ball to good effect. When the ball came back from a ruck it was moved down the line and fullback Dandre Prinsloo got over the corner after a determined run. This was very well converted by Viljoen to increase the lead to 19-7.
Selborne pressed and set up a penalty 20m out. From a succeeding ruck Coetzer broke, and passed inside to lock Stephan Nieuwenhuizen who went over. Coeter uncharacteristically missed the easy conversion, leaving the score 19-12. It meant Monument had done enough to remain unbeaten at the festival.
Point scorers:
Selborne: Tries: Venter, Nieuwenhuizen; Conversion: Coetzer
Monument: Tries: Brandon, Combrink, Prinsloo; Conversions: Viljoen (2)
MATCH 4
GLENWOOD HIGH 25 – 20 HOERSKOOL NOORD-KAAP
This was a game that many were looking forward to as both Glenwood and Hoerskool Noord-Kaap had shown they wanted to move the ball rapidly. They did not disappoint and in a thrilling game with good defence on both sides, only one try a piece was scored in the first half, but it certainly was not dull.
Noord-Kaap was first on the board after 12 minutes, when a long pass found their fullback Cameron Hufke, one of the standout players at the festival. He broke through the defence, passing to wing Maurice Amerika who forced his way over the line. He was successful and the Kimberley side led 7-0.
Wing and captain Morne van Rensburg put Glenwood on the board with a penalty. A good attacking move with scrumhalf Jaden Hendrikse, centre Jacques Conradie scored. Van Rensburg had a successful, for Glenwood to lead 10-7.
Noord-Kaap came back and were awarded a penalty quite a long way out which Hufke put through the posts to take the sides into the break at 10-all.
Just three minutes into the second half, pacy Glenwood wing Siyanda Cele rounded the defence to dot down under the posts making an easy two-pointer for Van Rensburg; and a 17-10 lead.
Again Noord-Kaap pressed and were rewarded when, after forwards had made a number of attempts and been thwarted, the ball went down the line across the field, finding Hufke on the outside. He dived over in the corner, but could not convert from the touchline. However, the gap had narrowed to 15-17.
Glenwood then struck back and Cele used his pace to go over in the corner for his second try and take the scoreboard to 22-15.
With turnover a plenty, play moved from end to end and touchline to touchline. Noord-Kaap came within 2m of scoring but Glenwood defended well. Eventually from a quick tap penalty, the ball was passed to a charging Conrad van Aswegen and after attempting his bullocking runs a number of times, he burst over. A difficult conversion was just wide, but it became 20-22 with two minutes remaining.
Glenwood were awarded a penalty just on the halfway line and fullback Rynard Jonker closed the excellent game with a further three points and a 25-20 win.
After their exciting match, a delighted Noord-Kaap were presented with a new award: the Standard Bank trophy for the side playing the most attractive rugby at the festival.
Point scorers:
Glenwood: Tries: Conradie, Cele (2); Conversions: Van Rensburg (2); Penalties: Van Rensburg,, Jonker
Noord-Kaap: Tries: Hufke, Van Aswegen, Amerika; Conversion: Hufke; Penalty: Hufke
MATCH 3
HTS MIDDELBURG 21 –22 DALE COLLEGE
The wind had dropped to a breeze but was still blowing downfield. Dale were playing into the breeze with HTS Middelburg having a slight advantage.
The HTS forwards were the stronger unit and it showed early on as Middelburg scored two unanswered tries. Dale however came back towards the end of the half scoring two tries.
The first Middelburg try was scored by Andries Koen who, after a wrap around, found a gap and scored under the poles. Morne Sonnekus was successful adding the extra points. Five minutes later HTS were awarded a penalty 5m from the Dale line. Middelburg tapped and formed a rolling maul which got over and flank Henco van Heerden came up with the ball. Sonnekus was again successful with the kick and HTS Middelburg led 14-0 and were looking dangerous.
Dale consolidated and in the last 10 minutes of the half they fed on scraps, but kept HTS in their own half. From a ruck 20m out, impressive No 8 Thandile Mpangeva burst out going over for their first try. The conversion was wide but the Dalians were back in the game.
This gave them added confidence and from broken play a toe forward bounced favourably and prop Sibongile Kampi was quick to dive on the rolling ball in the in-goal area. This time Dale College captain Aphelele Fassi made no mistake and the sides crossed with HTS Middelburg having a slender 14-12 lead.
The second half was cut and thrust by both sides as they played mainly in midfield with first one side attacking, being rebuffed, and then the other side attacking, but neither reaching the tryline.
With just over 10 minutes remaining wing Andrico Johannes false-footed the defence and running diagonally across field was brought down just short of the tryline. Kampi, following him, picked up the ball and went over for a try, much to the delight of the Dalian supporters. Fassi converted and it was Dale that had taken a 19-14 lead.
With a 45m penalty, Fassi added another three points so HTS would hasveto score twice if they were to win the game.
Middelburg did come back and from a good passing movement through the hand of backs and forwards, found Van Heerden on the outside. He dived over in the corner for his second try. A brilliant touchline conversion by Sonnekus brought HTS to 21-22 behind with just a minute remaining. Dale held on for an exciting end to this good game.
Point scorers:
HTS Middelburg: Tries: Van Heerden (2), Koen; Conversions: Sonnekus (3)
Dale College: Tries: Mpangeva, Kampi (2); Tries: Fassi (2); Conversion: Fassi
MATCH 2
HOERSKOOL FRAMESBY 29 – 21 DR EG JANSEN
The second match saw two teams, Framesby from Port Elizabeth and Dr EG Jansen from Boksburg, neither of which had yet won a game at the festival, keen for a win. EG Jansen were the favourites and with the wind blowing behind them, the early advantage was with the Boksburg team.
Most of the possession though was with the Jansen players and it was prop forward Brandon Becker who rumbled over close to the uprights. A good conversion by flyhalf Dylan Schwartz gave them a seven-point lead.
The longer the half progressed the more confident Framesby became. Midway through the half flank Desmick Kleinbooi made a break passing to centre and captain Julian Kleyn who went over. The successful conversion took the score to 7-each.
Framesby were running the EG Jansen defence from touchline to touchline. It was again Kleinbooi who made a break down the left touchline, and his determined run of 40 metres saw him dive over in the corner. This gave the Eastern Cape team a useful 12-7 lead and the knowledge that they would now have the wind behind them.
The backs were full of running and when centre JP Greyling received the ball he burst through a half gap and, with defenders on his back, managed to dive over. This gave Framesby a 17-7 lead.
Grayson Ditlow, playing on the wing, was quick to pick up a loose ball and get over in the corner. A good conversion by Schwartz too the lead to 24-7. Framesby fullback Lindsay Potgieter got on to the scoreboard when he counter-attacked after a tackle and sprinted to score in the corner. Framesby looked like definite winners, leading 29-7.
EG Jansen pulled themselves together and two tries, five minutes apart, put them back into the game. The first was by centre Keenan Oelofse and the second by fullback Franco van Eeden. Both were converted by Schwartz. With four minutes remaining EG Jansen were a converted try behind.
Most of the remaining play took place between the two 22m lines as neither side could score, but it was Framesby that was elated with their 29-21 victory.
Point scorers:
Hoerskool Framesby: Tries: Greyling, Potgieter, Kleyn, Kleinbooi, Ditlow; Conversions: Van Rensburg (2)
Dr EG Jansen: Tries: Becker, Oelofse, Van Eeden; Conversions: Schwartz (3)
MATCH 1
HTS DROSTDY 22 – 5 PRETORIA BOYS HIGH
A blustery wind welcomed the players on to the Stott field for the first match of the final day of the Standard Bank Kearsney Easter Rugby Festival. In the blustery conditions kicking for points became difficult. Four kicks in succession were missed, two penalty kicks and a conversion by the Pretoria lads and a conversion by Drostdy.
HTS Drostdy forwards dominated at the breakdown hence their backline had more possession. When PBHS did win ball, mistakes presented any meaningful advance.
The first half was a stop-start affair with one serious injury when a Pretoria Boys High player was stretched off, taking about six minute of the running time, and a second head cut to their hooker, with play waiting for him to be bandaged.
However, it was two tries scored by the two Drostdy locks, Bronlee Mouries and Heinrich Naude that gave the Western Cape team their points. Mouries use his 114kgs to force his way over. This try was converted by fullback Cohen Jasper to give them a 12-0 halftime lead.
The PBHS conversion was close to the touch line, after a try by lock Kgala Mothomogolo, following a quick penalty which was moved quickly to Mothomogolo who was unmarked on the outside. The score remained at 12-5 for the next 10 minutes.
Drostdy won the ball at the ruck and fullback Jasper used his pace down the short side to go over in the corner, but missed the conversion to extend their lead to 17-5.
The second half was much more evenly contested with the Pretoria lads stepping up and winning more of both possession and territory. Their defence was better. However, with just minutes to play, PBHS won a lineout on their own line, but it was ripped away by Drostdy. They passed to hooker Stefan Schwartz who caught the defence napping, going over in the corner. It gave Drostdy a 22-5 lead.
Romeo Eksteen, the regular scrumhalf, had come on and he galvanised Drostdy. He made a break leaving the Pretoria defence in tatters, scoring under the posts. This time Jasper made no mistake, to leave the Western Cape team 22-5 winners.
Point Scorers:
HTS Drostdy: Tries: Mouries, Naude, Jasper, Eksteen; Conversion: Jasper
Pretoria Boys: Try: Mothomogolo
@beet: How did Selbourne 9 play?
@Rainier: The Monnas vs Selborne test match was great. I loved it. I think Selborne left a few points on the field, a couple of their standouts had below expectations performances and lineouts need to get improve but they were/are still a terrific team to watch and they look like Top 10 material this season. Selborne were worthy opponents for the strong Monnas team. The Witbulle were focussed and a lot more decisive than against Dale on Thursday. I think Monnas can still lift it up another notch . Huge huge huge match coming up for them vs Garsfontein on Saturday – please someone stream that game. Then some great tests to look forward to at Wildeklawers : Monnas vs Boland Landbou (also Top 10 contenders) and Selborne vs Boishaai and then Helpies.
Monnas v Selborne is going to be a great game.
Wow – PBHS truly thrashed by Selborne. Hope the boys can recover and stand up against Drostdy tomorrow.
Drostdy beats Kearsney
Kearsney had a few good results coming into this match, the best one being a comfortable looking win in Craddock vs Marlow. Drostdy had impressed many Cape locals with a fine performance against Paul Roos on the PRG Rugby Day but then had a couple of not so impressive results at their own festival but finished it on a high against Middelburg High School. So beforehand I expected the score to be a lot closer in this opening KERF game. Even after watching the match, it still felt like contest was a lot closer than the final score margin suggested. Drostdy’s 45 points emphasised something tho. Kearsney were vulnerable on defence. The home team were up against the strongest backline attack they had to content with this season and they came short a few times particularly near the fringes were both Drostdy scrumhalves found space and so did their replacement 10. Kearsney battled back from 26-5 down which was contributed to by a charge down try and a toe ahead favourable bounce situation in the first half, to 26-17. The momentum shift made it seem like it was game on. However Drostdy finished well. Evident is that Drostdy were able to build off of big plays with good teamwork to make sure they got points. Kearsney’s go-to players(2 in the pack, 2 in the line) who have helped them get onto the front-foot with individual excellence this season had a torrid time in this game and struggled to be influential. My fav player in the match was the Drostdy no. 6 Louwrens du Toit. The donkeys 12 Berto le Roux perhaps didn’t get the credit but he took on a lot of responsibility and had a good game. 15 Cohen Jasper and sub 10 Shaun Baxter also looked like good players.
Selborne beats EG
Selborne had a slowish start to the season, were unconvincing at Graeme R/D and didn’t have the best prep schedule for KERF either. Given that EG had shown improvement against Paarl Gim at Noord-Suid, I kinda expected the Boksburg boys to show more cohesion, fewer errors and dominate more. However it turned out the other way around. Selborne created platforms and looked like a well-balanced team with various threats scattered across the team. EG looked low on confidence and their backline once again didn’t ask enough questions of the opponents. For Selborne there are several players worth keeping an eye on but without doubt David Coetzer, one of the top rated 10’s in SA this season stamped his authority on the match and the Big Baboona no.8 Adam Mountfort was terrific as well. Jason Raubenheimer was one of many good 15’s on display and his linking ability was valuable. For EG their star Ruben Beytell returned from injury and came on a scrumhalf in the 2nd half. This resulted in an immediate increase in motivation and performance by EG, underlying his huge worth to the Jansies.
Pretoria BH vs Queen’s
Whereas the other two Eastern Cape powerhouses showed significant improvements since Border Rugby Day, Queen’s looked like they are still stuck in the lower gears. They didn’t gel as a team. They had a massive size advantage up front but apart from no.8 Siya Matanda, it didn’t look like they were going to generate much go-forward from the pack and the backs didn’t have a great time either in constructing meaningful opportunities. Pretoria BH was behind for most of the match but did a lot of the playing and looked like a team with an executable plan that promoted attractive rugby- their players seem to know their roles and their spirit was good. As the match went on, it was Boys High who started to gain the upper-hand and showed patience to take the kickable points on offer even when the momentum had shifted way into their favour. The candy stipes eventually drew level and the last play of the match with 12 seconds left on the running time clock was one of the most memorable. Queen’s had a scrum feed near their own 22m line, conceded a tighthead as their scrum got shoved. Then the Boys High no. 8 Chris du Toit who was an outstanding player picked up and set off on a super run that ended with him scoring the winning try. Fairy-tale stuff. Lots of work for Queen’s and hopefully they can come right.
Monnas vs Dale
Dale played with never-say-die courage. They faced up to the challenge of the big and always very physical Witbulle pack and simply refused to lie down. Monnas’ had a lot of ball. Their backs were also very big but unable to create space and strike with wow-factor appeal. In a way it was a pity that Dale conceded the last try at the death as a 26-16 defeat would have been an outstanding reflection of the respect they had earned through their tenacity. Monnas has a star-studded team and a lot more is expected of them in the next two games and the season ahead. Their reserve hooker Morne Brandon looks like a player to keep an eye on. He has a burst of pace and reasonably athletic build. For Dale their fullback and captain Aphelele Fassi was a strong candidate for player of the day. It was perhaps the most unconventional fullback play many will witness but it spoke volumes about his character particularly self-determination. Last year he set himself apart at KERF as a classy fullback, but for this game he will best be remembered as a warrior who stood up to the challenge and lead by example. His kicking out of hand was top class as well.
Glenwood vs Framesby
Framesby and Noord-Kaap both fielded significantly stronger teams than last year, which added value to KERF this year. This year’s Framesby team has much strong character particularly on defence. It was also evident by the way they hit the rucks – very hard. This Glenwood match turned out to be a nice physical battle between two teams unwilling to give the other too much room. For Framesby they perhaps need a little more thrust in the backline to increase their attacking danger level. Their fullback Lindsay Potgieter was key on attack. For Glenwood the flyhalf Dylan Pretorius impressed with a few nice touches.
HTS Middelburg vs Noord-Kaap
In gloomy wet weather and with the smallest crowd, this turned out to be an action packed game. Noord-Kaap has a need for speed backline and can hurt any team that affords them too much ball and space. HTS didn’t have their best game but in true Rooibulle fashion they grinded out a win. For NK the veteran fullback Cameron Hufke was too quick. He was able to get away from his opponents often. His left wing Maurice Amerika and 13 Naseer Daniels were also blitz quick. He’s perhaps not the hardest working prop you’ll ever see but when he has ball in hand Northerns prop Conrad van Aswegen is a explosive machine. You don’t often see 110 kgs build up that sort of wrecking ball speed over a short distance – a joy to watch.
here are the teams lists:
https://www.kearsney.com/college/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Kerf2017Teams.pdf
@Hooit: @Bush: Don’t trust Spies’ promises. He couldn’t even attend an invite to a golf game during last year’s holiday season.
@Speartackle: Yes, will really be lekker if Hops sisters could pop in for coffee. I braai a lekker coffee, trick a learnt from my days in the Boy Scouts.
@Speartackle: Ek stuur vir jou
@Speartackle: I’m in.
Where can we get the times for the daily games?
Bush and I want to arrange a braai for bloggers?
It is a pity that the Monnas vs HTS Middelburg cannot be swopped for other opponents as they have already against each other. However, I suggest that the match be watched, they match-up for a spectacular game.
@Queenian: I would say bring Muir on! I think Muir has improved over the years.
@Candies: A bit confusing.
I’ve changed it back to what it was before to be in agreement with what’s on their website. Thanks for the info.
Is the fixture list still the same as indicated above? According to PBHS the team will play against Queens, Selborne and Drosdy as initially indicated by Hooit. “I am confused”.
@Playa: Yip I think the last time Dale played Muir in a full fixture was in 1977 which is along time ago. They have played 2 times since then at festivals. Muir stopped playing QC as a fixture in 2010.
Of interest looking at the archives here at Muir there history against Dale and QC is not good.
vs Dale Played 16 Won 1 Lost 15 Draw 0
vs Queens Played 18 Won 0 Lost 17 Draw 1
But you never know with all the input at the moment I think it will be a good fixture Muir has some good age groups coming up.
@Queenian: I saw the Dale fixtures last night.Port Rec has been dropped for Muir on 27 May.Only hockey will be played against Port Rex. Glad to have Muir,sad to lose the Spanner boys.Now if only could get the Graeme fixture back on track. 25 years has been more than enough time to get heads to cool.
@beet: Yep, well done Beet.
@Queenian: @AbsolutMenlo: Thank you.
@Queenian: Absolutely AGREE!
@beet: Don’t get discouraged by a few, what you have done with this site is greatly appreciated by at least 99% of the bloggers.
Job well done is all I can say to you.
@Andre T: Do not a-worry. The inconvenient truths will NOT go away.
@The Beast: Hahahaha I can’t help you there
@Playa: Bog the naughty boy….Playa, you are the most level headed brother on here….will you please tell Hopper to take it easy on me?
@GreenBlooded: The ‘horseshit’ part in response to my previous comment.Fine then.We’ll agree to disagree on Bog’s character because he certainly was undesireable in my eyes.And as I’ve said already only time will tell if he indeed was the most undesirable blogger on here.His parting rant is testimony of what the guy is.
Alright I’ve wasted enough time discussing this so let’s agree to disagree on this.
@GreenBlooded: Is that a sarcastic laugh?????
@Bush:
Har har har…….
@Playa:
Not pinning anything on you – why would you think that? And he didn’t leave on his own. He was forced as has already been admitted. And it has nothing to do with being condescending, name calling, being an irritant or any such thing. Lord knows there are more deserving candidates on this forum under those categories. Was BOG the most undesirable element on the blog? If not then ask why he is gone and others are still here. It’s wrong. Just plain wrong.
@GreenBlooded: I’m not sure what is itching you.One thing I am getting is that you don’t agree with me disagreeing with him.That is your problem.I didn’t ask him to leave he did that on his own.So please do not try to pin point shit that isn’t mine and put it under my name.Be tolerant to me noy sharing his views and do less of being his apologist because you happen to share his.
@McCulleys Workshop: Eeisch, you’ve put me on the spot, I don’t know. I know this year was 1st in the men’s, U18 1st, 2nd (also 1st U16) and 4th (18th and 19th). U16 was 1st, 2nd and 4th.
I remember Terry Elkington, was my year I think.
@GreenBlooded: That’s very lekker just got a pic of him going through Pumphouse:
https://www.google.co.za/search?q=stuart+little+in+a+canoe&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-za&client=safari#imgdii=PBesCBIsfhP9IM:&imgrc=m0kaKeIF7HmOHM:
@McCulleys Workshop:
In about 20 mins you can add another to the list. My lighties mate Stuart Little comfortably in the lead of the U18 age group.
@Gungets Tuft: GT college have been an uber strong paddling school ever since I can remember. I remember Terry Elkington (I think that was his name) giving us an Eskimo roll class when I was at Cordwallis. Would be interesting to know how many Dusi winners you have produced.
@Grasshopper:
But just ignoring the comment, or a simple “good work” is beyond you.
@Gungets Tuft: nope, but expectations will be high!
@Grasshopper: So the performance would be shit if they didn’t do well?
@Gungets Tuft: that should be expected considering the school has the Duzi at its front door!
All I can say is “EISHH”!!
@Roger: Right here, after a few hard days up in the Big Smoke and this evening a big delay leaving.
Our 2nd Formers have been cheering on the start for as long as I can remember. Obviously somethings working, we’ve got College men leading the Men’s, U18 and 1st and 2nd in U16.
Sadly I’ve never been close enough to the front of the field to actually experience it while paddling past.
@beet: I admit to stirring the pot, digging my own hole & talking kak! I also should not have been drawn into the gutter by some of the blogs trolls and for that I apologise. I also, should not have given my real name & gone into personal stories, I have learnt a big lesson with that. I have also learnt to not go into spats you cannot win when debating with other strong willed people. I’m going to try be more neutral going forward.
@beet I don’t have much of an ego problem, but used to struggle choosing between being extra competitive or an ultra a-hole. Fortunately, after much trial and error, I can now easily manage to be both, at the same time, all the time ???
I’m not one to give lectures but here are a few observations.
1.There is no conspiracy theory about what happened today. Not a single blogger who did not see eye to eye with BOG, contacted me to force the issue. It was all my own doing. So if anyone is looking to blame someone for BOG no longer being here, blame me! I put the pressure on and he called it quits today. Good luck to anyone who thinks they know my own political standpoint as a result of my actions. You might just be way off in your assumptions.
2.Sometimes we get muddled up between rights and privileges but there comes a time when we to know exactly which is which. I have fond memories of prefects grilling me and others about rights vs privileges on a few occasions while I was at boarding school. Worth a laugh about now but there were good life lessons learned through those then serious lectures.
3.Someone close to me relies on the victim mentality a lot, so I’m acquainted with the technique. I see it being used around here a bit. In my opinion it’s an insecurity. It also allows a person to sidestep responsibility for their own actions. Sometimes you need to just step up and acknowledge that you caused the kak, that you are the problem, that you are the aggressor, heaven forbid that you may just have flawed personality. Basically what you need to do is stop pointing a finger at everyone else for the things that go wrong in your own life and are of your own doing.
4.We all have egos. I’m sure you’ve met your fair share of people who are extra competitive while others are just genuine arrogant A-holes . Every once in a while all of us need to let go of those egos and competitive edges: make your point and move on. The time and energy some want to devote to digging a trench and envoking the win at all cost approach just ain’t worth it in the bigger picture.
Rumour has it, please don’t shoot the messenger Glenwood won the KZN T20 cricket final (baseball in my eyes)…
The world is revolting against liberalism, all this non PC bullocks became too much, hence Trump & Brexit. Saffa rugby players are fed up too, hence the exodus! SARU says its money, nope it’s because it’s merit. Who chooses to play in cold & Kak winter Europe? I’m only in the UK because in my sector there are no Senior level jobs for wit ou’s & crime. It’s plain wrong! 27 years into democracy to still have rebalancing policy is ludicrous!
I think Bog’s last post got lost in translation, so as a fellow Afrikaner I can now confirm that he meant two bloggers are miguided, seven are ill-informed, twenty three are brainwashed and at least half are not idiots.
On a more serious note, a staunch conservative is annoying, but nothing trumps a bunch of whining pussy neo-liberals
And it is all good and nice to say no politics in front of the boys but most of them have already been, and most of them will still be , victims of this virus
@GreenBlooded:
You know Bloods, back in the 365 days, there were also a group of bloggers who didn’t like BOG and myself and started a petition to have us removed, they know who they are. and put extreme pressure on old Dobbers to ban us. Eventually we also decided to leave and joined here. I remembered spending hours on 365 talking crap and a bit of rugby but there was that small group of okes who wanted everything their way. FFS man these sites need a bit of banter and humour and some arguments, how dull will it be without it?
If you are here just for the rugby, there are a hundred other sites where you can follow SBR. This site was started, if I remember correctly, where we can post and comment without old Dobbers’ sjambok. You still invited me here. These political discussions did get out of hand because the participants were too clueless to understand that there is no winner in a political debate, and then they thought they were so clued up and looked informed but in the mean time everybody knows SA is heading for disaster and they just proved the reason why.
And yes BOG was wrong, everybody that ganged up on him was even more wrong, he gave facts and spoke truths……..and like Jack Nicolson said to Tom Cruise in A Few Good Men……….You can’t handle the truth
But yes, no politics on here but like someone said earlier……whilst quotas and team selections are forced down our throats……..there will be political arguments
@Playa:
Horseshit!! He had an alternative political viewpoint. When slagging him off didn’t get rid of him, the more direct solution was used. I shouldn’t be surprised. It seems to be the modern way of things. “I will defend to the death your right to say it” – as long as it’s not something I don’t want to hear. “I believe in democracy” – unless it delivers a President I don’t like. Arrrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!
@Andre T:
Agreed!!
But I’m sure it’s going to be a far more productive discussion listening to Beast and the mutts slag off on old Hopper. They’ll have so much more airtime now.
Usually when I come online. I’ll first go and read what Grasshopper and BOG have to say. That normally puts me in a good mood. It’s like a rugby soapie but perhaps the majority are too obsessed with their own interests on here and forgot that life should be a little enjoyed as well. BOG was not only about politics, he made you smile as well. He has been part of this cyber rugby sites for as long as I have and hasn’t irritated me one day, he just got very provoked by a few who should also eject themselves .
This is a massive loss for SBR
And to all my enemies………like Ernie Els said today……go eff yourself
@GreenBlooded: No person has won here. Schoolboy Rugby has is what I said. A strong viewpoint is one thing. One that comes with condescending labelling of those who don’t share your view is another story. That is not setting an example for the schoolboys boys that read this blog. It actually is not different to the politicians who resort to shouting, screaming and eventually violence to ‘resolve’ their differences.
Come on guys, lets stick to rugby…..please.
@Playa:
I don’t think anyone wins when one party is ejected from a discussion for having a strong viewpoint. But that’s just me.
@Riempies: This is where beet is right – we are worlds apart and hence this debate has no end, you have your say and then neatly close the discussion.
To my mind you are comparing Barney with Hannibal Lecter.
@Riempies: I do not think parting by calling someone “some misguided, ill informed, brain washed idiot” is any more mature than the ‘childish’ comments that followed. It is these kind of comments that sends this blog on a downward spiral. I find it hard to ignore that comment – I am 95% sure it was directed at me.
It’s BOG himself that preached about treating the cause of a disease rather than the symptoms. One of the few things we agreed on. Whether he was the cause or symptom remains to be seen. Let’s see how the blog goes without him.
The only winner here is Schoolboy Rugby!!! And that is how it should be.
@Riempies: Exactly, what you don’t like or agree with ignore. I don’t read most of the Afrikaans and Xhosa posts because I’m not bothered to try and translate them (my colloquial Afrikaans is poor). I’m sure I have been ridiculed and dissed there but too be honest who cares…….it’s a blog of people where 95% of them you have never met face to face…
@beet: I thing there is a couple of people on this blog that can get the same treatment as BOG.
Some might thing they have won the fight know that BOG is gone. Childish reactions prove that. If your reaction is just as provocative as the one that made you react to it in the first place then you are just as guilty.
I for one joined this blog for SBR. I enjoy 90% of the comments and learn more about what is happening at schoolboy rugby than any other site I could find. The other 10% I just ignore. Problem solved.
Where’s old Gungets – want to know why those College boys make such a racket at the start of the Dusi – scared the living daylights out of my wife and scattered the birdlife for miles around
@Speartackle: tick tock – you still here?
@Speartackle: It’s an acquired taste to say the least…It was interesting when the conversation was around actual SBR issues and games, but it degenerated into self righteous drivel.
@BoishaaiPa:
Let’s be very honest ….for the last 8 years it has been much more interesting reading BOG’s drivel than having to see what clowns like Roger and Co have to say
@Speartackle: I will agree on knowledgeable to a degree..although very one – and lopsided…but SBR legend?…To what extend?..
@BOG: Cheers BOG! Thank you for deciding to “make things easy for” me.
All the best.
I think a few others should piss off with him
tick tock…….
“ding dong, the witch is gone, the wicked witch is gone”
with apologies to L Frank Baum
@BOG:
You’ll always remain a legend of Schoolboy Rugby and one of the most knowledgeable all rounders. I respect your views and know where you are coming from.
The big problem was that most of your enemies here couldn’t face the truth even though they could see and experience it first hand.
Myself, from being one of the biggest SA sport fanatic supporters, have grown into that “I really do not care whether we win or lose anymore” …….I am only a fanatic of sport now……specialising in merit performances.
This is a pity as I’m sure there are more people who feel the way I feel than the other way round. I have lived for sport my whole life, since Arnold Taylor beat Romeo Anaya….saw Peter ‘Terror’ Mathebula beat Duk Koo Kim in Los Angeles…….cheered on Chester in the RWC 95…….etc etc etc……
But sadly, SA sport is heading for disaster……..and I don’t give a flying f&ck
And if we are not allowed to show our disgust in these current shitty state of affairs….then so be it
Eish..it must be hard when you are always right!..
@BOG: Agree with you 100%, quotas are racist full stop and whilst they are still applied in our school boy rugby provincial and national selection they cannot be taken seriously. Our schools and Under20 sides are going to battle until they pick on merit only…
@beet: Let me make things easy for you. You dont need me and I obviously dont need you. I shall never avoid the truth and discuss something, while avoiding or ignoring the underlying causes, or pretending that they do not exist, while purring sweet words in each others ears. Its called bullshitting ourselves. We are discussing and getting excited about the wall hangings, while the foundation of the house is crumbling. Let me not be the one to disturb the tranquility- a very artificial one, in that self created “paradise”. We know the name of that.. Realities will ultimately wake people up, as it indeed has done elsewhere. The irony of course, is that I endured much the same criticism in the old political dispensation. I was then called a communist for saying exactly what Im still saying. The difference is that I have now “transformed” from communist to ” hater, dictator, corrupter and murderer”, supposedly “extreme right-wing”,a comment which incidentally, you left alone, by some misguided, ill informed, brain washed idiot. Im not prepared to compromise on the truth, or ignore the events around us. I remember Hassan Howa saying, “No normal sport in an abnormal society”. Im convinced that this ,at least, still applies. Cheers
@Playa: Agreed, what is so frustrating is that we don’t actually need quotas. Schools have been picking on merit since time began, they all want to win games. From my experience with Glenwood we have had teams with non white players since the early 90’s, the private schools since before then. Our first non white Natal rep was in 1997, 20 years ago now. In fact over those years I have seen some Glenwood sides with almost half the team non white. DHS have been predominantly non white for a decade. We really don’t need this sort of policy any longer. The Boks will be half non white if not more within 3 years, based on merit…..politics needs to be removed from sport.
@Grasshopper: @BOG: Discussing political interference in sport is fair game in my view. Expect different points of view, torrelate them, and argue the merits/demerits thereof. Where the stray happens is that someone will start calling people who disagree with them, “cadres/comrades/supporters of the current regime”, “Communists”, “Joe Slovos/Jew lovers”; tell us about how they have just loaded their guns upon arriving home, how their friends have been murdered, farm killings, how many whites are living in poverty, how f*ked SA is politically, socially and economically…and and and…and everything else that has nothing to do with rugby or political interference in sport for that matter.
No doubt, that from time to time we will discuss such things – we just have not been adult enough here to tolerate other views, and stay away from stereotyping, and name calling. I am probably as guilty as anyone else, so I am not putting myself on a pedestal here. Just saying that it’s time we grew the fck up. If we cannot disagree like adults, let’s rather leave those topics altogether. Let us live in ‘fluffy land’, and you guys can enjoy your reality.
That’s my last comment on this
@Playa: Well said agree with you 100%
@BOG: Boggie, you are obviously a very bright and eloquent individual, it shows in the language you use. I actually agree with you 90% of the time. I think the other bloggers just want to stick with the fluffy positive stuff and talk school rugga, nothing else. If it gets into quotas we just just try and avoid it. I actually think you and I add value by not agreeing with everything. Imagine how boring life would be if we all got on hunky dory. Honest, adult debate is healthy…
I asked the question elsewhere, but was given a very diplomatic reply. If its wrong to discuss political interference in sport, then it must be equally “wrong” to discuss sporting matters on a political blog. One way to keep the proletariat silent and the masses compromised and ignorant. Reading some comments here, my mood varies from outburst of laughter to extreme anger, but that is the consequence of a barrage of propaganda. Terms like “positive/negative” have been devised to silence critics. There is no room for such terms- just reality based on indicators. No different from a medical prognosis, a weather or economic forecast. But I would imagine that there are several present here, who will accuse the weatherman of being “negative”. The “delight” of ignorance.
@Speartackle: trying to find the next Hendrik Prinsloo, one of those very English Westville names ;-). The bigger schools need to hoover up those who slipped the net, the Clyde Rathbones of the world. You mentioned a powerful No8….always good to get one of those to add depth..
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@Grasshopper:
I saw a few Westville guys there 2 weeks ago when there were also 2 games
@Speartackle: need to send the Glenwood scouts down that way asap ;-)
I think I should take a break till the season kicks off before somebody pulls a Dobbers on me
For those who want to watch some SBR here in the KZN area….some nice games today at 16h00 at Toti Rugby Club
Kuswag vs Kingsway
Suid Natal vs I dont know
@GreenBlooded: Agreed. I too am a father (a black one), I too experience hardships that make me concerned about my children’s future. I too am concerned about crime, racism, corruption you name it. You have every right to vent, just as I do. The problem as Beet has pointed out is that we will come from different perspectives, and neither of us will want to concede. When that happens there is no value add, and there is no solution that will come out on this forum. Which then begs the question…WHY? Why bring it up here?
The notion that because people do not want to discuss this stuff on this platform, means that they have their heads in the sand, or ignoring the problem is flawed. I generally have no problem with extreme views. It is when people put them out as if they are the only ones with problems where I begin to get annoyed. If one cannot offer balanced views, they are better off discussing their views with like-minded people around a fire than on a schoolboy rugby blog with a wide variety of views. Beet has put it down perfectly; if we are not able to look at things from all perspectives – even those that we disagree with – and debate them in a mature fashion, then let us rather all subscribe to Politicsweb and bite each other there.
Glad to see the site is back after a half day break. Beet deserves a few cases of Bells for putting up with my/our antics. I will make a concerted effort to try not drift into politics or get personal. If others attack me, I’ll just ignore. Looking forward to seeing the various squads for Kearsney coming up.
@beet:
Absolutely AGREE!!
@GreenBlooded:
Nobody on this forum denied that we have problems in fact it’s nothing new we had problems for decades.
No use to google bad news and duplicate it on the blog (where there is no relevance to the topic under discussion) to try and prove some sort of point.
I have no problem discussing any situation that has an impact on SBR in a civil manner.
I also have two kids and with the attitude and love for others instilled in them they are happy in SA despite the known problems and because of that I believe they will be happy anywhere in the world. Yesterday my daughter, who is a university student, university and provincial hockey player sent me pictures of her visiting a township school … playing, assisting and putting smiles on the faces of the less fortunate.
Let that be an example for all of us…..
@beet: I cannot agree with you more on your post and agree as a whole.
Having been following this Blog for a very long time a number of bloggers has left this blog for very good reasons. Since reading without partaking many a good blogger has left this site and if they still read or not it is a sad state as this is and should be an enjoyable environment.
Unfortunately there is some very unpleasant characters that hang around here for totally the wrong reasons. The heartache is that they hide behind nicknames / aliases.
How many discussions actually take place on rugby performance / talks on outstanding players / new trends in school rugby?
No this has actually apart from the political comments become an “elite” bashing blog and its unfortunate to say that certain schools parents are the main contributors to this with their narcissistic behavioral patterns.
All parents want to have a well educated / sport skilled child but a child that is not part of a exclusive school / private school etc is maybe more happy than your own kid.
Lets try and refrain from personal attacks and talk SBR.
@beet: Beet, again your efforts here are hugely appreciated and I completely understand your position. Why don’t you try the Sharksworld (Rob) route where bloggers can ‘ buy Rob a coffee’ by donating a few rondots or quid OR merge with Rob’s site using his servers…?
For all
This is my overall feeling on this topic.
No matter how moderately it starts, it will always end up being personal because hardly anyone wants to concede or compromise on any point.
Right now we have responsible bloggers discussing the matter but continue and all you will eventually do is encourage those with very extreme views from both ends of the spectrum to register and share those views that will piss off most of you here one way or the other.
This will lead to a downward spiral and those interested in SBR probably won’t see in value is visiting this site.
From my point of view as already mentioned, I have been very frustrated by IT related issues with running this website. So maybe its a good thing if there are less users and readers as a result of where the politics will take us coz it should mean less IT issues. So those of you pushing this subject, don’t moan when we arrive at a point down the line when every other comment you read here irritates you and has nothing to do with SBR.
I don’t come here to delete comments or choose a set direction for this blog or conversations, debates or even make this blog a reflection of my views etc. The idea was and still is that you should be able to express yours in a reasonable manner.
Most of you know this this website does not generate money, its a hobby. Over the years I’ve turned down numerous advertisers and partnership proposals so that there would be freedom for discussion, of external influence or even content control. This of importance because if I want to walk away from it all, I save a bit of money and a lot of time and I still get to follow SBR in private capacity or even free lance for another website if I like. But if I do that we all lose something special and I let down a lot of people who like I’ve said before have helped make this site what it is.
So to me I see this political topic as moving the blog into survival mode. Its therefore either step in now and change the course of where its heading or stand back and accept that the end is near. It’s that simple. I’ve chosen to step in.
Personally with no hard feelings I think Bog’s comments should all be subjected to moderation before publication from now on. Not because I believe they are necessarily wrong or right or I agree or disagree with them, but I truly believe they lead to eruptions and send comments down the wrong path. As mentioned by a few others there are many other public forums where his topics of interest can be discussed.
Also mentioned in one of my comments above. There is so much uncovered content in SBR. Opportunities for anyone to start a popular website are plentiful. If you feel you are being shut out around here without good cause, create a forum where SA politics can be debated more freely.
Any blogger is welcome to email or message me with ideas or suggestions on direction forward etc.
@AbsolutMenlo:
It is a schoolboy rugby blog – but SBR and schools do not exist in a vacuum. They exist in the real world. Without even considering that school sport is DIRECTLY influenced by politics, there are also questions facing those of us who have kids in the school system and are concerned about their future.
I have a boy in matric who want’s to study engineering at university next year. And another who has just started his high-school career. In the first case – what do I do about the first guy? And do I let the 2nd guy stay at a school he is passionate about or start looking abroad?
You cannot divorce sport, education and the dire political situation in the country. You simply cannot.
I’ve just returned from a 2 week trip to a manufacturing plant in China. What I expected and what I saw were worlds apart. If China is third world then we are 7th world. And going in the wrong direction. A 30 minute booga at the parliamentary channel will reveal that. Whilst China is positioning itself as a major world economic player, our leaders are bickering like kids in parliament and looting the country dry.
About the most intelligent speech I heard was from Mangasothu Buthelezi who basically said that when our ecomony doesn’t grow – we as a country get left further and further behind. The pie just isn’t big enough for everyone no matter which way you try and slice it. It’s a situation that will be very difficult if not impossible to recover from.
Yes – there is a lot to be positive about and this is still a lekker place to be on a Saturday morning watching our kids play sport and having a lekker Sunday braai around the pool with a few cold beers. But let that not fool us into thinking that it’s all good here. It isn’t. Not by a long way.
@BoishaaiPa: agreed, I think though the closer to home it is eg one’s own son (not mine as he is only 2) the more one will rant about it. I know many bloggers here have some interest in the boys playing…
@BOG: Good people from all races will keep on working together to make this beautiful country a better place whether you like it or not! You (BOG) are no better than the haters, dictators, corrupters and murderers of this country!!
Now please move on!!! This is a schoolboy and rugby blog!!!!!
@Grasshopper: One can discuss it in a civil manner, but trying to kick against it is useless..So adapt and try and work around it!..I have no problem discussing solutions, but stating the obvious problems helps no one!
GOB…If you make or state corrections, one should actually “do” / “make” the correction, but people in general by the likes of you, has the constant allergy converting that “talk” / “bitch and moan” to an actual deed, making that difference.
Sad example to say the least.
Gomvinger maar jy is slegte oordeel van karakter.
Jy sal moet dalk moet kyk na geskikte forum en my laat weet dan vat ons dit verder.
Because just like the 4×4 vehicle that has not been built to pull the farmer off the sheets, such are the days of our lives, hiding behind the pillars or NEVER could you think what these farmers get up to when it all goes quite. Turn it over GOB, two sides, just like the wage disputes that come for weeks, months. The way parties treat one another verbal abuse from both sides etc. and then suddenly someone gets hurt. Innocent people always get hurt on either side.
You are a trouble maker. Looking for that one thing to sink you fingers in, and then all fury feeds you!
You are waste of alot of things but maybe your kids love you so again who am I to judge you. Much like when you don’t have the answer you make it off as if you didnt understand question
@BoishaaiPa: Agreed, hence that was my last political post. However, I can’t promise quotas won’t come up again around Craven Week time….
@Grasshopper: The problem is that those type of discussions don’t belong on this forum. There are plenty of other forums to discuss politics and problems within SA…You can whine and moan and bitch about BEE and quotas all you like but the fact remains that it is here to stay and you have to deal with it..So yelping on a SBR blog about politics wont change a thing..rather discuss the issues at hand around SBR ..I dont need doomsayers to comment on every little thing that is wrong in our land…I know..I read as well…I want banter around SBR..that is why I am on here..NOT to hear about all the doom and gloom…for that I have the all the other media available!
@BOG:
Bwahahahahaha
@boerboel: boring, same old vitriol…
I’ve also learnt to not comment about SA even when in SA, those with no other options get very upset & defend the country to the end. I mean a bomb could go off and mass murder in the streets before locals see a problem. The biggest problem in our sport & economy is BEE, AA, quotas & imbecile administrators like Fekile. Anyway, thats my last on the political front. We all have our reasons for our choices. Roll on rugby season…
@Grasshopper: Imaginary friends does not count porky!!
A big hoooh haaah for freedom of speech
Lesson No 2..Don’t believe everything you google !…Assumption is the mother of all F-ups!…
This is pathetic
Are these Kearsney organisers so stupid that they don’t even know that Monnas and HTSM tend to play each other at least once year? C’mon change the fixture and give us Monnas against Kearsney, Donkies or Framesby?
@AbsolutMenlo: Ja and doesn’t even live in SA. He can’t keep his nose out of the political situation in SA.
@Skopgraaf243: All good Bog and his followers are on the wrong forum!
Big brother just ninja dusted BOG’s comment from 4:04am 16Feb…eish
Nobody is denying the problems in the country … each has it’s own way dealing with it. Some are pessimistic and only focus on the negative … others try to make a positive difference where they are!!!!
Fact is this is a SBR blog … let’s rather influence our boys to make a positive difference in life starting with their schooling and rugby.
Shouldn’t you comment remain on praag.org?
@BOG: There, there ou Boggie. There there. {dashes off to put on tin foil hat} …
@BOG: Columbo has the same credibility as Jones. In what country has he not predicted a crash in the last whole. Marc Faber, well, we’re waiting for his 50% S&P crash.
They’re both perma-Bears, no wonder you like them.
Funny though, you’re a Trump fan, but Faber doesn’t share your views. Dissonance much?
@Skopgraaf243: you see I go for quality over quantity, no place in life for people who bring you down only those that lift you up. I have genuine mates who we can go years without seeing each other and pick up where we left off.
GOB…only cause you in my rearview mirror.
Why is it that you can only give live comment on al mentioned above but yet you can’t do anything with all this ?
Habe you got a plan or some sort of answer, maybe solution?
….or do you just like blabbering on about politics?
Have you got any influence over any of the said matters?
I’d much rather listen to the Garsfontein Saga again then ponder on this.
I would have to say but I don’t think you nor Hopper has friends. Colleagues yes and acquaintances.
Finding like minded people for you guys must be a tiresome exercise alone. Better you look after your family, otherwise a lonely place the world out there
As I was saying, some truths will be found in the alleys and corridors of The City and Europe, rather than in old text books— And I said that at 08:28 this morning. Watch the news! But that explains just partly the discrepancies. And then you have a bankster, sitting INSIDE of a bank- oblivious of what is happening around him. But given the comment that he would not respond to “negative” comments, Im assuming that what I said, is “positive”. Fantastic google that I have- it gave me advanced info.@BrotherBear: Unfortunately, a “more balanced commentary, would require me to lie.@Gungets Tuft: No, I cannot recall when last I read Alex Jones, but in any event, he is more reliable than FNN, formerly CNN. But try Jesse Columbo and Dr Marc Faber.@Grasshopper: What brought me here, is that I heard that all the Foxterriers were gunning for you, but when I arrived with my first comment, you and my informant, disappeared. Had a breakthrough though this morning. Beet applied some Tippex, but I miraculously, escaped his wrath.
It’s really interesting watching the debate from the stands :-)
@BOG: Bru, you’re getting your truth from Alex Jones. He’s a nutcase.
Have you bought any of the male virility products he sells on his website?
Google is nes die Donkie van ouds…n wonderlike ding!
It is so crystal clear that BOG’s general knowledge overshadows the rest of the wannamaker bloggers’ attempts ………even I can see all the doom and gloom
Well done Boggie……you remind me of my favourite player….Ben Tune…….go , you good thing
@star: As Bush’s brother used to say…”That is as clear as mud, sir”
@BOG: although your comments can be viewed as a bit alarmist and your views tinted to the “dark side”, I do concur that we are living in very troubled times. It would be rather flippant for SBR lovers to disregard the impacts of these “worldly” influences on our beloved game. On the other hand one can understand that some (or most) would want to focus on the fun part of life and sports.
Yes, the world can be a very KAK place, but there is still enough sunshine to keep us all truly “enlightened”.
You seem to have a lot of experience and inherent wisdom. A more balanced commentary could serve you and your cause well.
@boerboel: Are you confined to prison fluffy, with no access to the news? That was a quote from a SENIOR Swedish police officer. But the guessing by a collective of quislings and mpimpis, will continue. The answers to what is happening in the world, you will not find in the creased and faded pages of your old Econ 101 or even 301 text books. But you will find at least some of the answers in the alleys and corridors in The City (in London) and Europe.And even then, if and when you do find them, you will discard many, if not most, as “conspiracy theories”, as the reference to the Illuminati above, suggests, which in turn, underlines the extent of brain washing over the years.
@BOG: Sweden is on its knees
ffs-what are you smoking?
your glass is always half empty
Sorry guys the tippex is out early this morning.
@Bush: He was among the boys that were ” smoking” (Although not the same smoking we used to do down in the valley at Hilton
)
@Playa- there is another issue which relates to positive sentiment. Our economy is still underpinned and skewed towards commodities. The recent strength in the rand could be linked to the fact that commodity prices have increased for 3 sessions in a row. It is still a minefield though where even ou Star has had his fingers burned.
@Gungets Tuft: LOL! Yep…the unknown unknown that is known to exist.
You can rest assured on one thing. By the time we are talking about it the real news is already known and factored into the markets. All we amateurs can hope to do is hoover up the few crumbs that fall off the main table. Looking at the currency crosses for the last few months, somebody knows something we don’t know. And it’s not the illuminati ….. before ou Boggie has a stroke (of any kind)
@GreenBlooded: We’re mostly on the same page.Both of us amateurs
My reference to markets was strictly to the stock markets.Bond and currency markets are very sensitive to political shenanigans.Nenegate is a good case in point.Stock markets not so much.They may get a shock but ultimately economic fundamentals dictate where they go
@GreenBlooded: The Don and his escapades? First politician who is doing what he promised the voters he would do, and why he is president today. “The TPP is dead, the wall has begun, the Dow is over 20K and jobs were coming in” And that was on day 3.The demons are whining, while Trump is WINNING. And in Europe- France, Netherlands, Germany, Italy, Greece, Ireland, the march for freedom and the rejection of criminal globalist slavery, is on. The following quote from a Swedish police officer, sums up the prevailing mood in Europe. “Our pensioners are on their knees.The schools are a mess, health care is an inferno, the police is completely destroyed” Sounds much like SA, but that is SWEDEN.
@GreenBlooded: I wont get too excited about these spikes in the exchange rates. SA still has the threat of being downgraded to junk. In fact, it is said that there is already justification for the downgrade to junk, but the 3 rating agencies have avoided it thus far- for reasons, politics rather than economics. When that happens- and we only need a minor catalyst, like “Dr” Nkosazana as the new MOF, to see that happen, foreign fund managers will be forced to divest. The biggest flight of capital will follow and the unavoidable collapse of the ZAR. Chris Hearts prediction of R65=$ , might then be conservative. The biggest problem with SAs, and its well illustrated here, is that they are fixed on the present and unable to predict trends and future scenarios. Economists, generally look too the future without giving enough weight to political events and influences. @star: Thank you for a mature and sane voice among this play group (well, most of them) That was close, but sadly, from my point of view, not close enough. There were really only 2 teams in that contest. But why does KES not swim? Any truth in the rumour that they filled up their pool with sand to be used as a sand pit, when a certain individual arrived at the school?
@Playa:
I wasn’t trying to make a political statement! Just trying to understand what’s going on – I’m an amateur (rather unsuccessful) forex speculator on the side. Not all us wit ou’s are bloody agents you know!!
Although I will disagree with you – I think markets react spectacularly to political shenanigans in the short term (i.e. the timeframe of currency speculators) – just look at what happened when the Weekend Special took over the finance ministry!
Bond yields (return/cost) go up because they have a constant payout but a variable purchase price – so it makes sense that the yields go up during a political crisis – higher risk, lower cost, constant return. They are very directly linked to the perception of stable and good government. The cost price also varies inverse to interest rates. That’s my dumb sparky understanding of them anyway……
@star: Hi Star, how did Jansen Van Rensberg from Toti go? That oke was unstoppable in the pool at Primary School.
@GreenBlooded: It’s not just the USD. The Runt is stronger against GBP, Euro, Canadian and Aus. Somethings up, other than the Runt, I wonder when the news will break.
@GreenBlooded: very confusing – although with US rates to rise and (if the Donald is to be believed) the economy to soar, then you can expect a strong dollar. Conversely, if we are downgraded and growth doesn’t pick up and we continuing borrowing the rand will weaken. I don’t think it will ever hit sixty though – Chris was smoking his socks
@GreenBlooded: Careful judging the market based on politicians and their unsavoury antics. JSE up 4.5% for the year to date is not far off at all from its ‘soaring’ US counterparts. In fact only the NASDAQ has done better than the JSE. But don’t let the facts get in the way.
I do find it rather fascinating how the Rand never strengthens in some people’s eyes – $/R exchange goes from 13 to 16…the Rand has weakened…when it goes from 16 to 12…it’s the Dollar that has weakened. I don’t get it. The Rand just can’t flourish
It might also be worthy of noting that our bond yields are falling while those of the US are rising….I know very little about that, and one of those is that there is no relationship between Trump, SA bond yields and US bond yields. Maybe Star can expand on the implications of high bond yields…but to give you an idea…SA bond yields ‘soared’ during Nenegate.
Eish…I have failed…promised myself I will only talk rugby this year.
@Roger:
It’s wierd bru. Parliamentary punch ups, trumped up arrests, 94 people killed by the health department – and it just keeps climbing. I can only assume it’s driven by dollar weakness because of The Don and his escapades. But the US market is soaring. Don’t get it man. Need someone like ou Star to explain it to me very slowly. I’m just a dumb sparky……
@Roger: yes seeing its trading at r13.10 as we speak.
Chris Hart mysteriously got it wrong?
nog n bog storietjie
@boerboel: I wonder when the rand will hit sixty to the dollar
@BOG: You are just venting because Grey came up just short of Westville in their gala. However it did take Westville to win 22 out of the 26 events and break 10 records to keep the Grey machine at bay.
@BOG: I was not aware that there was political interference at the Kearsney Easter Festival. Please, by all means, fill us in on those details.
@BOG: terug in jou bunker boggie
nou!!!
So, speaking out against evil and political interference in sport, is “drivel”. I think that “comment” shows the extent of liberal brain washing on the human(sic) mind. Im grateful that I overcame that affliction a long time ago. I have always suspected that several of you are living in fools paradise, and the more you spew, the more you confirm it. If you think that any sport can be discussed while political interference is avoided or ignored, you are in for a rude awakening. When you remain silent where evil prevails, you are complicit to that evil. Several regime supporters here, will of course like that, but its not going to happen. Your self created artificial utopia will be rattled, and if you are irritated in the process, excellent, especially Dodger Rabbit.
@GreenBlooded: St Charles
Yes – at the Oval – Wednesday (no lights) – with Thursday as a reserve day in case of rain.
@Thumper:
Will that be at the Oval? Who is College playing?
@Thumper: That will be a good game to win. As you will meet GW in the final of finals. I think you guys are the team that can beat GW. All the best ???????
@Bush:well done on your boy, he bowled a good line and length. We move on to the T20 final tomorrow. See you at Goldstones ?
@Thumper: Morning Thumper, it was a great weekend of cricket. I think at the end of the day it was a fair result but House did have the “stiffer upper lip” on the game?????. The House parents did a great job. I always rock up with an empty cooler box and go home with it full.
“Soap on the Rope”
@Bush: it was good to meet you over the weekend. Thanks for being such good hosts ?
@Speartackle: Hello Spear, you too busy with your recruitment to have time for me.
@Bush:
You have deserted me
@McCulleys Workshop: Ja flip man. I just coughed without putting my hand in front of my mouth and I was a dead beat OB. I don’t have any buddies, not even my best buddy Hopper. He’s gone AWOL.
I agree – leave old Hops alone – otherwise he will come charging back here like a gut shot buffalo – and even worse, he starts siding with Bog. Hopper and I have had our differences on the blog but I refuse to believe he actually agrees with the drivel Bog posts
@McCulleys Workshop:
Objection M’Lady. Non responsive.
@GreenBlooded: Keep it rolling, it works for you, and you thought you were Bushes moral compass.
@McCulleys Workshop:
Let’s recap:
Boerboel writes “meeting with Google’s management/raiding Dunkin donuts/fabricating some new tales of his sporting heroics?”
You respond “If your comment wasn’t tragically true it would be damn funny!”.
How do you know that any of these alleged activities of the Hopper are true? Chances are they probably aren’t. In which case – what would be so damn funny about them?
You Sir, should change your Avatar name to Richard Cranium……..
@GreenBlooded: You don’t need to run his campaign for him, or elect the chopper concept.
Let’s just all admit…..Hoppers is KING
@boerboel: @McCulleys Workshop:
Hopper hasn’t commented on anything since yesterday morning 8am. So why are you trying to stir the pot? Seems to me that far from being irritated by Hopper like you claim to be, you actually rely on it for your daily hard-on.
Don’t scratch where it doesn’t itch choppers!
@boerboel: If your comment wasn’t tragically true it would be damn funny!
Where is our chubby 4th team lock today?
meeting with Google’s management/raiding Dunkin donuts/fabricating some new tales of his sporting heroics?
@Far Meadows: Hi Far Meadows, the 1st XI have had such a great start to the season. They have shown “big kahunas” and been able to get themselves out of some trying situations. They just seem to believe in each other and work together.
Don’t forget the Trotters
@Bush: Hi Bush , nice to see some old Boy’s sons featuring in the 1stX1 , your boy , Gilson and Jones ; along with Norton who has very strong connections with the school.
@Speartackle: Your main job is to keep them there and let them develop on their own…all you need to do is make sure they get a shot at an academy after school or perhaps get drafted into a Varsity Cup side. If they are talented and dedicated enough they will come through…These golden tickets hand-outs don’t seem to work in the long run.
@Speartackle: Your main job is to keep them there and let them develop on their own…all you need to do is make sure they get a shot at an academy after school or perhaps get drafted into a Varsity Cup side. If they are talented and dedicated enough they will come through…These golden tickets hand-outs don’t seem to work in the long run.
On a more serious note
I started my new campaign as a scout last week already and went to watch the game between Amanzimtoti High and Kuswag played in front of a very vibey Toti Rugby Club
There was some serious talent on both sides…..Toti High had a monster 7 and 8 who will easily walk into any Top Tier school team and Kuswag a live wire hooker who reminded me a lot of Lucas van Biljon.
I can’t believe these guys aren’t at either Glenwood or Garsies
I also took a drive out to Piet Retief over the weekend to attend an athletics meeting there. I am telling you there are a few humungus u/17’s from Piet Retief, Pionier Vryheid and Volksrust……..what a ball I’m going to have finding talent in these areas………….Piet Retief has a speedster there that looks just like Habana…..just quicker and more solidly built…..jeepers …..Dylan Somebody
@Speartackle: And there goes the dignity again!..see we dont have to do anything!..
@Andre T: Ja ja…you just give us the time and place and we will be there…There is still about 7 or 8 of us who regularly meet and chat and have a few drinks…representing about 5 different schools.
@Andre T:
Ja vra vir BHP om jou te help met die inweeg……..ek is seker hy sal vir eenkeer in sy lewe wil voel hoe dit is om n monster in die hand te hê
@BoishaaiPa:
And that 1 year when I was at the Interschools and hanging from that tree in front of Bosanova’s and when I spilled red wine all over Dummy Run’s wife’s white crimpolene dress…..you okes still couldn’t come out of hiding
But don’t worry…..I am also making a comeback this year in Pniel to regain that title I gave up a few years ago….and this time around I want some support
@Andre T: Your dignity?…You cant complain about dignity when you talk about your footlongs and mother-in-law stories…Your dignity went out the door way before we got hold of you!…lol
@Roger: You were spot on with your prediction but it was very close with Grey C putting in a massive effort.
Results for the Westville Invitational gala
1 Westville A 241
2 GC 230
3 St Davids 181
4 Bennies 160
5 Clifton 149
6 Glenwood 124
7 Westville B 116
8 Kearsney 100
9 Maritz C 86
10 DHS 29
@Speartackle: No, no..There I have enough evidence to discredit that rumour…We phoned and waited…you never pitched!…It was myself and Paul Roos Pa and Maroon…and we waited and waited and had some beers and then some more…
@Speartackle:
Yes thank you for bringing that up…..they attacked my dignity and everything I stood for
It still hurts
@Speartackle: The T stood for “Terrible”..like Ivan The…He tormented us more than a bunch of Cossack did the Siberians!
@BoishaaiPa:
You okes even had reinforcements from Atlanta, Georgia against us
But the saddest was when you dropped us at the Paarl u/16 tournament
@BoishaaiPa:
Yes but what about poor Andre T…..his nickname is so timid and innocent and yet you all teamed up against him….ou Greyoom even wanted to sue him
@Speartackle: The problem I had with you way back then was that you thought you had to live up to your nickname!..or maybe “Hightackle” would probably have been more appropriate!..We just reacted as any normal sportsman would and defend his teamates when you stiff armed one of us!!…
@BoishaaiPa: Absolutely!!!!
I must say that BOG and Hops are still my favourite okes here along with my very first Cyberville enemy and best friend, Boishaaipa
I actually wish I can actually see all those insults I had to endure from BHP and his blue army in the good old days but I still I love him
Old BOG once wrote such a nice huldeblyk when BHP’s best friend , Mr Dobson, banned me
I know old Hops dont like me but I have always backed him and will stiil against all these doggies and baldies
I have to actually start making a decision on which KZN side I can support from now on and because of my nature I always back the underdogs
So who will be the major underdogs be in KZN for the next 10 years?
Team!!!!!!!………Give me a BIG Hooooohaaaa……
And still he does not get it!..This is a SBR blog where people prefer to talk about SBR related things and some offhand school banter..not a political forum where you want to relate everything back to politics and doomsday debates!…. Those of us who works and deals with issues like that on a daily basis do not want to come on here and get involved in discussions about political issues again…it is not an indicator of us being complicit or ignorant…it is just an indicator that we would prefer to talk about SBR and learn about other schools and their supporters, as was the intention of this forum. I too strayed many a time from the original concept and getting involved in discussions way off-topic, but I have decided that certain individuals will just be ignored from now on…that does not mean they don’t exist.
…I just won’t spend any energy on their negative banter!
@beet: To conclude, there are two ways to promote/advance a political agenda. You can either state a fact, as I have done, or you can avoid it or pretend that it does not exist, ie pretend that we live in a normal society, where blatant political interference-in this case, sport, does not exist. Conveniently, to look the other way. I was taught that doing so, makes one complicit. Its that simple.
@Gungets Tuft: ✌ peace and love
@Playa: ? And just as a frigid and uneasy truce had settled over the troubled halls of the Schoolboy Rugby forum, a wave of incontinence swept through the corridors … ????
@Bush: What??? They have plastic forks???
They’re LUCKY. In maai day we all shared a single chopstick. We called it a chopstick because we wanted to be better than Alex but generally we just carved a stick from a ….{koff} …. bush … next to the field and skewered pieces of Eskort Gold Medal porkies (sit …. it’s not what you think) that we had grilled over a briquette. Things are clearly looking up daarso.
Lekker about the cricket. The 2 and a bit day fixtures gives the lighties a good taste of what’s required if they want to make a career of this.
@Playa: Whahahaha nearly rolled my Jeep and spilt my 69 year old single malt.
@Gungets Tuft: @Bush: You two need to make friends with people who work at Google….and maybe that will solve your Webcricket issues
@Gungets Tuft: Yes flip man that Webcricket is slow. The game was called a draw. What a great 2.5 days of cricket. Well done to the boys.
Enjoyed mixing it with my Silver Spoon buddies and the Plastic Forkers from College??????
@Bush: Buy a donkey. I’ve just checked Webcricket, saw that nothing had happened for a while and stripped my moer that it wasn’t up to date. I’ll have to chill a little.
@McCulleys Workshop: Hear hear……spot on.
@Grasshopper: How has trading in your own name helped you be more truthful, less biased, less threatening or demeaning, less judgemental of anything not Glenwood including the prep schools in JHB and ALL private schools, less cynical towards those that have beaten Glenwood, or more demeaning towards those that have elected of their own reason to not play you, including tagging the Sunday Times and Bobby Skinstad on twitter in the the Hilton story.
When Beet puts out his view, you step forward as the ultimate choir boy, admitting a few minor indiscretions. Your one week period of absence was a welcome.
@Gungets Tuft: Great game on the go here. MHS 2nd inn 161 for 2. Off due to lightening
@beet: Amen! We’re all familiar with each others’ political views and feelings about SA.We’ve discussed and argued this to death in the last few years.It serves no purpose to keep harping on about them when we run out of productive conversation.
@Bush: Got a score for us there. We cricket is pathetic.
On another note……..
Glenwood on Fire!!!!
http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/wp-content/uploads/Sports-Results-Ending-11th-February-2017.pdf
#notonlyarugbyschool
@BOG: I won’t disagree with anyone who says that politics is part of the air we breathe. Just about everyone including myself has opinions on it and what the future holds as a result of it. BUT you don’t see me pushing it as my defining agenda around here and neither do you see others doing that.
The “inconsistencies” meaning that a lot of other non-SBR rugby related borderline comments are still being allowed but the ones involving politics are now being regulated and since there is no formal guideline even this regulating may be inconsistent. The idea is prevention is better than cure.
There is a network of people to whom I’m very grateful for supplying valued SBR information over the years. I would not get far without them. Many but not all of them are regular bloggers. You obviously know you’re not one of those many. So if there was a ranking along the lines you’ve mentioned, you’d be close to the bottom and you’d need to take remedial action. Your complaints over the years have always been noted and addressed wherever possible. So in response to this one I will try to make a bigger effort to be fair in judgement.
@GreenBlooded: Fairly even. Lovely game. Great support from both sides.
@beet: do you know what would be awesome is to have a blog braai somewhere where everyone can meet each other, talk kak and have a jol. That will show who the big talk no action boys are. A blog ‘team photo’ would be awesome too…
@beet: thanks for the kind words Beet, I really have appreciated your efforts to keep the blog going so long, probably out of your own pocket. Your views are usually really balanced. I do think though to self monitor the site a requirement to use ones real name should be required, it will help stop the trolling. You will suddenly see less brave bloggers. I probably was a little naive thinking that giving my name would help, but alas it’s given the trolls more ammo. I do admit I am a bit too Glenwood focused, but that is my role, to discuss Glenwoods achievements as it is for other schools supporters. Posts are put into context by mentioning how ones school did in the same scenario. I also mention my personal experiences too, but again that seems to have cheesed off a few. I think everything has a lifecycle of sorts, maybe it’s reached a point for change. I will always support an initiative like this. The trolls like to point out inconsistencies & kak, but again that is part of the banter. Anyway, good luck whatever way the blog goes. Role on 2017 season & hopefully the annual trolls start to quieten down, they usually do.
@Bush:
How is the cricket going? 2.5 day match according to the program so should still be on today? I was also watching the 2nd Polo. Didn’t see you.
@GreenBlooded: The boys are very blessed to be at such a wonderful school. Been able to play such fixtures like the College one, is once again another blessing.
Sorry I missed you. Was at the 2nd team Waterpolo game, my mate from College his son played in that game. I have no clue about Polo but was quiet impressed that the College Boys could swim.
The shade and Rooibos Gin at the Roy was wonderful too, can’t wait for Round Two which starts in 2 hours time. Hell Africa is Tuff. Glad I don’t live in Germany.
Have a lekker Sunday?????
@beet: The “inconsistencies” being that there seems to be a greater reluctance to regulate (edit) the ones with opposing views, than mine (and others) There is also this air of “my crap is better than the other persons crap”, attitude. And to maintain a high level of in-depth discussion of SBR for 12 months of the year is almost impossible, particularly when provoked. And then of course, the reality of politics. Almost everything involves “politics”- even going to the toilet. Certainly sport, where interference is a daily occurrence.And I say that of course as the lesser of the content value adders, however that is determined. Perhaps a “ranking” system should be considered where we can monitor our “value” and take remedial action when required?
@BOG: @GreenBlooded: @Grasshopper:
Look we talk about a few controversial and sensitive issues here.
However after the last round of political (plus social/economics) debates on this site, I didn’t think it was worth going down that road again. It will not result in a pleasant outcome. People from different walks of life have different views. Generally what happens is people dig their heels in and fervently defend their own political views and some stoop to any low to win an argument rather than decide on a respectful agree to disagree approach.
So yes I have decided that the topic, especially in the form that you three want to address needs to be removed. My opinion is that the bigger picture is you guys want to win an argument that your opponents are never going to concede on plus it’s a topic far removed from SBR itself. I’m not saying that it’s not a reality for all Saffas or that it should not be discussed. It’s just too much of a headache for me to manage around here and I don’t want to deal with the fallout especially accusations of racism whichever way.
Almost 5 years ago a lot of us were unhappy about sensorship on another forum and along with a few other changes it helped launch this website. We wanted extra freedom to discuss the issues that mattered without a webmaster deleting whole threads at a time.
Greenblooded, aside from all your other contributions, you were instrumental in generating start up support amongst bloggers for the site through the efforts you made. I haven’t forgotten that and it’s worth reminding all in our little community who enjoy coming here of your vital part. There are other users and readers who have made up the core of support and have been a massive help to me over the years and I probably haven’t said or done enough to thank each one of them for all their assistance.
Grasshopper your enthusiasm and dedication has played a very big part in ensuring that the blog has grown significantly in readership and comments every year since we started out. In whatever ways this site has succeeded you have been a valued part of that success because it’s comments and interactions where the true joy and value lies IMO.
Bog I don’t necessarily regard you as an SBR content value-adder like the other 2 but I’m sure your views are well supported. If I recall I invited you to join us here so I don’t see how I can very well now tell you to go elsewhere.
Right now there are a lot of unhappy bloggers, probably more than at any point before. Without speaking for the 3 of you, you are possibly just adding to a growing list of those who don’t like the direction of the blog. I can’t say that I’m 100% happy either. The ongoing IT issues alone demotivate me.
Anyway the bottomline is we’ve fast approaching another crossroads like 5 years back.
SBR in SA is inadequately covered as it is. I feel that for anyone prepared to overlook making money there is always a big opportunity to get in and make an impression by creating something unique that people want to continue visiting. So if something better comes alone that more adequately suits the needs of the unhappy bloggers and even the happy ones, I’m willing to play my part to help transition to that something better and step back into a role of a user and I really mean it.
But for now it might mean living with a few inconsistencies around here…
@Gungets Tuft: nope, the question is have the ostriches created their own one, Gungets Scot, Bush-Kabouter, mcBaldy, beastly easterly, Gawie-train & the dogs! Boghopper five! Let’s attack like a pack of wolves….
@Grasshopper: Have the two of you developed a secret handshake yet?
@BOG: that pre edited post about Somalia was the post of the year, classic Boggy!
@BOG:
Ou Boggie – it seems all posts of a political nature are being censored. You’ll notice that I quoted a line from one of your posts (No 196) with nothing below. It was all deleted. Seems that anything goes here – other than commentary on things that affect us all on a very direct level……..
@Grasshopper: As you can see, my comment was edited. Its similar in “independent Newspapers” They “borrowed” R2 billion from GEPF to buy the group, which was valued at R1 Billion. So I wonder where the other R1 billion was “deployed” And then we just get half of the truth.@McCulleys Workshop: Just refresh my memory please. I really cant recall, talking to you, but I did respond to GT. Get yourself the latest birth control device from America- the pink hat. Ad to that unshaved armpits and a smelly body, and I guarantee, no conception will take place. Brexit, Trump, Frexit, Grexit, Nexit— And then Nkosazana!
@BOG: interesting scenes at Loftus, another hard day in Africa…
@Bush: @GreenBlooded:
What an awesome day in the Midlands. I always enjoy visiting House. Facilities are out of this world. My first time in the Basketball Arena (Indoor Centre) and second time in the new Aquatics facility. I wonder if those boys realize how fortunate they are to school in such a splendid place??
Youngster opened proceedings with a good win in the U14A basketball (38-9). Followed by a loss to St Benedicts in the 1st Team Polo (5-10) and then a very close game against House which was neck and neck until the final chukka to go down (8-13) in the end. Things are looking up for us long suffering College Waterpolo parents at last!! Then caught the end of a spirited 1st Team Basketball match – the shouting from both schools could probably be heard in Maritzburg – which College took 64-54. Great spirit at all the fixtures, great skill on display. Boys being boys and having a great time. As it should be.
Now time to slap some meat on the coals, a few cold ones followed by a Spiced Gold later on. Good day I think.
Greenblooded Out………….{Drops Mic}…….
@BOG: You’re on the wrong blog again, that message was for your Jones kumbaya group that all drink your kool-aid.
@Roger: On the south side of Suncoast beach. If there was water from Braamfontein to Durbs I’d paddle it if it was my only means of escape
@BOG: Your grandpappy was a very naughty pope.
It’s the wolf you feed big boy, that’s the one that wins. You’re allowing the rabid old brak to consume your soul. Come to Durbs man, I’ll take you out into the bay, perhaps paddling with dolphins will cheer you up. Unlikely, you’ll be the sad bugger that can see only the shark.
@Gungets Tuft: Somalia too , has a wonderful coastline- 1000s of kms, and even more plots adjacent to the Indian ocean. One could paddle for weeks. Apart from a raging civil war, there is no real concern. (edited)
Heh @Gungets Tuft: where’s Pirates – thought it was in Greenside but I can’t see you paddling down the Braamfontein Spruit
@BOG: Poor thing. My day is going to same way. Early morning walk in the local green area, 4 hours work (sadly necessary), home for a quick swim and lunch, then I’ll go for a nice late afternoon paddle from Pirates to the wall and back. Braai at Pirates club tonight. F#€king country, just horrible.
@Grasshopper: Correct I am a coward sucking on an Ice Cold Beer in beautiful SA……you must be missing me?
Can we move onto SBR and get over your tears and BS now.
Or you waiting for an email?
Have a lovely cold weekend on Mud Island.
@BOG: I’m waiting with baited breath for my email from Beast, I don’t expect to receive anything, too cowardly….
@Bush: 3 sisters actually. Loving the snow falls we having. Nice single malt by the fire whilst watching decent rugby, shall be good. Hope you don’t get hijacked on the way home…
@GreenBlooded: look for a Kabouter, you can’t miss him…
@Grasshopper: If it makes you feel any better on “Mud Island”, I have just gone through my daily routine- de-activated the alarm system, called the security company, checked to see if the burglar bars have not been tampered with, fed the Rotweilers and unloaded my weapons.
@GreenBlooded: Sitting at a client. Big shutdown till at least 1pm, maybe 3pm. Might be a bit late. I see Gilson and Jones fighting back for House, so my gloat level would have to be muted. Not nearly as much fun
@GreenBlooded: I’m a lover not a fighter.
@Gungets Tuft:
Pull in. Glorious day here. Hope I don’t bump into Bush – he might still want to bliksem me.
@Grasshopper: Skinstad doesn’t have to do or say anything. There are always 3 position to take, For, Against and Not my circus, not my monkeys. I think that what you don’t get. It’s not always about having a public opinion. Or even a private one for that matter. Peace and ……. Out. Something ou Bush just said might have me driving to Balgowan …
@Grasshopper: Gees two sisters, that changes things quiet drastically. Off to House to watch cricket with my other Silver Spooners.
College have us in trouble. I could always blame the pitch, the toss, umpires calls etc etc. Anyway I will leave that up to you. Going to have a Rooibos Gin and Gingerale at tea. Please send my love to all, especially your sisters when you Skype them.
Enjoy your day on “Mud Island” love you my best buddy?????
@star: What were the results? WB will always be the favourites in swimming, but its probably GCB s best chance this year. Recently, at the Affies gala, they, with 580, wiped the floor with St Benedicts (420) , Affies (406), PBHS (364) and St Davids on a distant 363
@Grasshopper: Woof woof!!!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4Xcf8vXAAAPpWs?format=jpg&name=large
@Bush: it’s none of my sisters, they wouldn’t touch a dog like you…
@Grasshopper: Whahaha nearly rolled my polony. Sorry my Jeep. I am seeing someone. She’s related to you.
@Bush: Kabouts, you need to see someone, nearly every retort has a sexual conatation, yanking polony, boerewors, showers & ***. Jeez dude, it’s school rugby not a Sado site. Yes Skinstad ‘chowed’ me by merely saying he is not involved. He needs to read the M&G story and then comment or deny, deny, deny. Bored now…
@Grasshopper: Hops you are the blog bully. I hate bullies. Gawie is 100% correct. To defend yourself you attack people by been ugly. There’s no need for that.
I see on your twitter post. Skinstad chowed you heavy and you retorted to almost giving him a good old ***. That’s your character, that’s not passion.
@Gawie: like everyone on here I too stir the pot, but I never ever go on a personal vendetta. I certainly wouldn’t be holding the Hood inner sanctum as the moral high ground either, plenty of unsavory kak going on. Pinhead is a pinhead, trust me. Beast aka a friend needs to grow some balls and contact me directly. Not sure who you are either, another coward, but you seem to know me. How about growing some balls too and emailing me your issues; amorrissey2015@gmail.com
@Grasshopper what you have is misguided passion. Just leave a little space for others to enjoy the blog. You don’t have to compare everything to The Hood. @Beast is obviously one of your mates and that is what he is trying to tell you (aside from reminding you not to behave like a Walter Mitty).
I leave you with one point, if “pinhead” (as you refer to him) and the inner sanctum of the Hood have distanced themselves from you and you fight with 90% of the bloggers, maybe it’s you and not them? Some thoughtful introspection may be in order?
@Grasshopper: And all
You’re doing and promising is time and energy on it. You’ve got mates at Google (naturally) and you got some blue sky thing going (????). {sigh}. Whatever. Be passionate then…
@Gawie: it’s called passion, sorry for having it. I discuss other schools all the time. One has a reference point which is the school they support. Beast isn’t a mate because that is not how mates deal with issues they might have. Bush-Kabouter, mcBaldy, Gawie-train, Beast/Boerboel/Rottweiler/K9 and anyone who resorts to personal attacks whilst behind an avatar are cowards. A bunch of Internet trolls stirring the pot. I really don’t have the time & energy to deal with that kak.
@Grasshopper: It’s the Internet, they’re not camped in your front yard or in reception are your office, nobody cares. We’re mostly adults here, we all form our own opinions, informed by what you say, not what people say about you. It’s not grade 8 any more.
@Gawie: ??????? championship boerewors
@Grasshopper you cannot see the wood for the trees. @Gungets Tuft has it spot on. You have been caught out in your web of lies. It does you no good to now start another thread of discus stories and A team opening bowler but actually wasn’t because of a back problem. Stop that!
Take a deep breath and pull yourself into yourself. @Beast is a true mate of yours and you will thank him one of these days for the tough love.
Why do you think you leave a trail of destruction wherever you go (including your beloved GW)? If someone was talking about chess in Onderbroeksfontein you will hijack the discussion with your one-eyed Glenwood crap. It always relates to Glenwood. That irritates everyone. Just relax and accept that everyone wants to have a discussion about other schools and their news and exploits from time to time.
@Gungets Tuft: thanks for the lecture again, really helpful. My Facebook profile settings are set to friends only and if this Beast person is a friend he needs to be de friended quickly. If a family member needs a proper face to face adult chat. There is a limit to taking the piss. No claims at all, played 3rd team rugby, got half colours for athletics (discus A team for 5 years), under 13a to 15a cricket opening bowler (stopped due to back issue) & swimming team. Nothing to write home about but not bad. My own achievements or lack thereof does not give twats like Beast the right to call me porky and all the other endless attacks. When they don’t attack me my contribution is always based on fact/stats if about numbers and an opinion if not. These fucknuts need to stop trolling or ruin this blog for the many who enjoy it…
@Grasshopper: Dog chasing a car Bru. If you do catch it you’re not going to know what to do with it.
You Facebook profile is wide open, you’ve advertised your name here. Basically you’ve gone into a boxing ring leading with your chin and wondering why someone landed a punch.
You’ve made so many claims here about your school years that you’ve forgotten them and been caught out. Whether lying deliberately, accidentally by omission, you hoisted yourself. Basically all you’re going to do is name those that have told the truth about you. I’m struggling to see how that’s helful to your cause. No matter, you’ll do what you do and be oddly surprised at the result.
@Slam: ask what I ever did to them to deserve the personal attacks. Beast is obviously a complete knobhead so once I find out who he is I need to remove him from my life. No time for negativity & back stabbing. I have good mates at Google who will assist me in tracking this troll down…
@Grasshopper: what are you on about Hopper? What you going to do when you find out?
@Gungets Tuft: don’t need your spade, I’m going to find out who these fekkers are. I get the blue sky position on this, but I won’t accept that. These fekkers have started with the wrong oke….
@Grasshopper: China, it’s not about Beast. It’s everything. But ….. whatever. Can I lend you a new spade?
@Gungets Tuft: that’s not how it works wise guy, this Beast character goes too far by posting a pic of my kids and I, very low blow. Including my kids is not acceptable even if it’s a wind up. They have got nothing to do with it. Luckily enough the pic was removed.
@star: Westville to take it – St Benedicts, St Davids and Grey Bloem to fight it out for 2nd place
@Grasshopper: Hahaha, man, you really know how to alienate people. You’ve just offsided 4 people who might otherwise not give a toss. You’re in a hole – top tip – stop digging…
@GreenBlooded: Not this time. Will be a great contest as Grey are super charged.
@star:
Are you going?
@The Beast: tell me who you are and I’ll be able to judge for myself…
@Grasshopper: Why do you break my heart like this?
Very deep down I am a nice guy. Bit Beastly…..
@BOG: I think it is the Westville Invitational gala tonight. Do you think the Grey boys will be able to knock off the Champions for the first time in years?
@The Beast: nope, you not my buddy now.
@Grasshopper: Hop you want me to organise streaming of the Green Machine for you while you on Mud Island?
@Vleis: agreed on all your points. It’s going to be a great season, especially for you now being able to relax a bit…
Why am i reminded of this? Recent events or a comment or two, here? They say that you can bath a pig in perfume, cover it in talc powder, tie pink ribbons to its ears, it does not become a French poodle. It remains a pig.Figuratively speaking, of course.
@The Beast: It’s called working in digital media, the future. Huge frame? You must be talking about my mates. 108kg (lost 2kg) and 193cm ain’t huge by any standards, maybe in Japan…
@Grasshopper: I don’t live on the Internet……I have a real life to other than annoying you once every 6 months….so I guess I won’t see your huge frame at DIXONS this year…..
@Grasshopper: This is theoretically Helpmekaar’s dream team year, so they should be very strong – potentially a top 5 team. Of course, Helpies have a relatively small rugby club, so will battle a lot more than the other ‘groot kanonne’ if they have a lot of injuries.
Jeppe are losing their three superstars and do not have a strong g12 bunch. The g11s are pretty strong, so I predict a reasonable, but inconsistent, season, which is often the case when a lot of younger players are in the team. It’s unlikely that they’ll be able to handle Afffies & co this year…maybe next year.
KES could be the soutie Jhb team to watch this year, but are keeping a low profile…so let’s see.
Monnas are almost always strong, so they should continue to be a powerhouse…especially if the new coach does not play forwards in the backs.
Also keep an eye on Saints and St John’s this year. They won’t be world beaters but should be stronger than recent vintages – especially Saints.
In summary, Monnas and Helpies will be fighting it out for top dog status in Jhb, with KES possibly causing an upset.
@The Beast: you should know if you are a friend of mine on Facebook. Culled a few old school ‘friends’ yesterday, you probably in that group…
@Grasshopper: When did you go back?
@The Beast: position or initials would give it away, but you still too scared even with me in the UK, pathetic really..
@Queenian: I think both Dale & Queens battle when the opposition has a big pack and keep the ball there. They are both amazing when things get loose & the opposition kick possession to them. I think if either played Monnas or Affies it could bea bloodbath. Glenwood outmuscled a few sides, including Dale last year, but Monnas & Affies were a step up. I actually had Affies at No1 for 2016, yes they lost to Boishaai at WK and Grey in Bloem,but the way they dismantled other decent sides was scary. I don’t believe Affies will be as nearly as strong as in 2016. Monnas will be up there again & everyone is talking up Helpies & Jeppe.
@star: …thats me….easy to spot can’t believe Hopper does not know who I am…
@Grasshopper: Hops pop around…..Waxies….we got a few of your mates here…..
@The Beast: Next time I am there I will look for a smallish GW Old boy who matriculated in 1996 and played 4th team rugby. He also had ” great” hands and could outrun the Hopper. Should be a breeze and I will even buy you a drink
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Beast was Pinhead or La Marque & Boerboel Sean Erasmus or Rudi Dames, all 4 have an issue with me taking up my concerns directly with them, meeting both Sean & Steve previously….I certainly don’t hide anyway and couch coach/mouth off like this lot…
@boerboel: have another donut coward…
@Grasshopper: have a snack Alan
its ok
@The Beast: Fergie doing the Duzi soon?
@Playa: Must have gone through a couple of names by now……..it’s been quite an ordeal cos I can’t even remember who I am anymore.
@Grasshopper: People can flaw you on many things mate, but persistence is NOT one of them. I would have stopped guessing ages ago
@star: Thats the spot…….
@The Beast: Waxies
@Grasshopper: You have become paranoid my boy!!!!
We should organise a bloggers get together….so we can all meet and knock the hell out of me!!!!
@boerboel: who is porky? You? Too scared to say? Cowards R us ??
@boerboel: “Days of o
ur lives” going on here.
@boerboel: another poep scared blogger, checkers no name brand! At school was 193cm & 90kg.
Just read this whole glenwoodporky saga
well done Al
@Queenian: Probably the case…..interesting…..cos their English ain’t so tasty.
@The Beast: I think at Grey “beat” stands for hitting some one.
@rugbyfan: You don’t rate Dale and Queens chances at all I see.
@The Beast: @rugbyfan: Yes ask Bog about that they have two education streams at Grey Bloem the normal one and reformed one called JJS. I think Bog was at the latter.
@beet: Thanks
@Queenian: I had thisinfo for a few years back but lost a few files recently so will have to check over the weekend if I can still retrieve it.
@boerboel: No hands….a gentle giant…..soft….never got angry….
@Grasshopper: 1.93m and 110kg and 3rd team?
as i thought
@The Beast: ZS?
@rugbyfan: Its beat not win……but Grey is purely a rugby school!!!!
@The Beast: name coward?
Lets do some predictions:
1 Thu.13Apr Kearsney Win Drostdy
2 Thu.13Apr Selborne Win EG Jansen
3 Thu.13Apr Queen’s Win Pretoria BH
4 Thu.13Apr Monument Win Dale
5 Thu.13Apr Glenwood Win Framesby
6 Thu.13Apr HTS Middelburg Win Noord-Kaap
1 Sat.15Apr EG Jansen Win Queen’s
2 Sat.15Apr Noord-Kaap Selborne Win
3 Sat.15Apr Kearsney Win Framesby
4 Sat.15Apr Glenwood Win Pretoria BH
5 Sat.15Apr Dale Win Drostdy
6 Sat.15Apr Monument Win HTS Middelburg
1 Mon.17Apr Drostdy Win Noord-Kaap
2 Mon.17Apr Framesby EG Jansen Win
3 Mon.17Apr HTS Middelburg Win Dale
4 Mon.17Apr Glenwood Win Queen’s
5 Mon.17Apr Selborne Monument Win
6 Mon.17Apr Kearsney Win Pretoria BH
@Grasshopper:
@McCulleys Workshop:
That is precisely why I am angry, saying you played at KERF. You were a solid 4th team guy who would have played more for 3rds if you didn’t have 7ths hands.
Sad but true, I always thought you would become a ref.
@The Beast: Roger dodger? I hope not as that would be disappointing..
@Grasshopper: Why all the aggro?
@McCulleys Workshop: Another one of the cowards, no point in listening to your views. What credibility do you think you have hiding behind an avatar? Niks nadda…
@beet: Any chance of publishing all the historical results per year of the Kearsney Festival which I think goes back 10 years.
Thanks
@Grasshopper: Saying you played at KERF in 96 is pathetic, as is saying you played 2nds. No-one asked or cares. You consistently undermine the credibility of GW on this blog. I wish it was at least humorous.
@Grasshopper: You have threatened my little body and I am scared to tell you cos you have grown a lot more than I have…..you could probably beat me up…if you could catch me…..hint hint….
@The Beast: still a coward, too scared to discuss like adults…pathetic….
@Beet: seems posts are being removed and/or censored. My 196 above. Reposted the missing bit which also did a ‘now you see it now you don’t’. What gives?
@Grasshopper: Let’s focus on Glenwood and the season ahead…..one day you will find out……if you behave, hahahaha.
@The Beast: Andrew Ferguson, Andrew Dickason, Jason Brennan, Rudi Urbach are a few options…
@Grasshopper: You will never know hey…….I could be one of a number……..
@The Beast: Garth!
@Grasshopper: Never been there to be honest……I linger around Waxies most of the time….where you staying nowadays?
@The Beast: how is Vryheid these days?
@Grasshopper: Dont like it when we have experienced backs, remember when we had that very experienced back?
@Queenian: quite a few. The pack looks young but the backs experienced. Off my head Schwultz, Van der Mescht, Laubscher in the pack, Jooste, Van Rensburg, Conradie, Le Fleur & Kruger in the backs. Will be a decent side with plenty pace. Although I think DHS will have the most pace out wide in KZN
@Queenian: nothing worth fighting for comes easy. Concerted efforts required from old boys, parent body, staff and communities to maintain and better standards and heh, maybe a super duper rugby team is not the be all and end all. Boys High is one of the top schools in the world – let alone SA and I don’t see them battling in the absence of a shit hot rugger side!
@Grasshopper: How many boys do Glenwood have back from last years 1st team.
@Roger: I think all Model C school’s will feel the crunch going forward they will have to find a way to survive, which will be very difficult.
Hence the issue of scholarships it has a way of snow balling and is usually not sustainable.
@GreenBlooded: spot on pal – people tend to forget that these schools have endured through world wars, depressions, recessions, revolutions, boom times and bust. Headmasters, teachers, governing bodies and old boys come and go but the school remains. I look at schools like Potch Boys High (a Milner school over a 100 years old) still going strong with a pupil body 100% representative of our demographics. Kids are polite, well mannered and burning with desire and ambition to better themselves. This current government will fade into the sunset too …… and our kids will not accept mediocrity. Good luck Glenwood –
@McCulleys Workshop: because you guys are cowards, have plenty to say but hide like girls behind avatars. Attack people personally but then run scared.
@The Beast: running scared, typical coward. Pathetic excuse for a man and human…getting thrills out of taking the piss, very mature…
@Grasshopper: I think you protest too much, not sure why! ?
@Grasshopper: Hey brother time for me to hibernate for awhile…….its been special…….see you next to the field…….soon…..hehehe
I’m still waiting for that email from Internet ‘He-man’ Beast. Certainly the wrong name for such a coward.
@Bush: I’m not a decent oke. The strain of holding onto the moral high ground here causes a full meltdown on the weekends when I rampage through the Neighbourhood kicking the crap out of people’s garden gnomes and slashing on their gate posts to irritate their dogs. Grassy is quite right to question the judgement of our mutual friends.
@Queenian: I have it as 2012 and Glenwood won 32-12 probably at KERF…
@The Beast: you need to give more hints coward…
@BOG:
“We have been given fine examples of how to engage into vigorous debate”
@Grasshopper: When last did Glenwood play QC?
@Bwana:
Beats me why – but you do. You don’t post anything here for weeks, and when you do it will always be a bad-news story or something derogatory about Glenwood. You are obsessed dude.
I’ve encountered many a member of the College gentry with a very similar sentiment – it’s the one thing I have found very distasteful in my 4 years there as a parent.
But knock yourself out. Glenwood will be around for many decades to come – turning out fine sportsmen, academics, leaders in all avenues with no consideration given to the barbs from you and your cohorts.
@McCulleys Workshop: I understand what you are saying. Both parents are teachers. It is a fine balancing act and it would seem our friends in Nicholson Road seem to have neglected the balance
@Bwana: The financial model for model C schools requires fee paying parents, and that at +- R40,000 pa pp, which provides for a better pupil teacher ratio than non model C schools (30:1 as opposed to 45:1) and certain additional subject choices and therefore additional teachers, outside of specialist coaches etc. That takes money and therefore attracting enough fee paying parents who may not be naturally available in the schools suburb, which in most instances requires marketing outside of your given suburb/s that the school may have usually drawn from. Obviously a schools prominances and success is advertised by their school sports results and certainly within a white mind set, rugby is the epicenter of that thinking. So I guess a delicate balancing act is critical, of good old boy support, a good sports program, quality education and educators, a healthy ethos and culture, and solid financial management. No doubt providing a level of scholarships is also critical. Anyway, hats off to the leaders and governing boards of these schools. It’s not a simple task, and sadly there will be some casualties along the way.
One moment I was here, and the next, I was gone. Perhaps I should rephrase my earlier advice more diplomatically. Why bicker and argue back and forth? We have been given fine examples of how to engage into vigorous debate, without becoming embroiled in drawn out petty arguments, as you lot have been doing. Hit the shit out of each other and the matter is settled within the hour.@Bush: They are going to think that you have become senile, talking to yourself. Just to confirm that Bush is not “bossies”and that he did respond to my comment BEFORE it evaporated. Do you think uncle Paul is involved? Nam??? Is that Namibia or Vietnam?
@Grasshopper: You have my number on your phone give me a call…….I can remind you
@GreenBlooded: I was not even in Pretoria. As I have told you before I do not care what happened at Affies that day, all that matters was the fightback of College’s on Brooks. Why would I want a school to fail, South Africa needs strong traditional Boys Schools to thrive.
@The Beast: nope, no recollection of that coward…
@The Beast: when not wearing contacts yes I admit I didn’t have the best hands. But butter fingers nope, you might be talking about yourself there…
@The Beast: not sure what you on about coward, still waiting….I promise I won’t out you or chase you down…..???
@Grasshopper: Admit you played more 4th team than 3rds, come on you still bullshitting…….you might have played 3rd chess regularly but were not a regular 3rd team rugga player…..not with those hands…..you would drop your winkie if you tried to pull it…tell the guys how bad your hands were……
@The Beast: coward! I’ve already stated 3 times, played 3rds at school (a game for 2nds), Collegians under 21B (stated I did trials but wasn’t quick enough at loose forward, so played lock), Varsity under 21a, Westville under 21 & Westville 1st team. I never played at KERF but was there watching. Be a man now Kevin, Steve, Marc, Rudi or Tate…
@Bwana:
Oh listen to you. Mr Sanctimonious. You would LOVE to see Glenwood fail – hence 90% of your posts on this forum being anti-Glenwood.
You must of been one of the back-slapper high-fivers on the stands at PBHS last year. Sure of it!
@Grasshopper: Baby Al, forget about who I am and go look in the mirror at what you have become all because of your complete and utter one eyedness over the Greenmachine.
Admit to all the bloggers what crock you have been saying and I will send you your email……
@The Beast: email me; amorrissey2015@gmail.com if you brave enough. Explain your malice & cowardice. Finally be a man and stop hiding like a child….
@Slam: there is no money for bursaries I believe. @McCulleys Workshop: so the rumour has been circling for a while. Sad when rugby results mean more than a child’s education. Isn’t education the reason why kids go to school??
@Bwana: I’m aware of that
@Grasshopper: Once again a childish retort. The amount of wins that College has on Dixons, Jack Dixon was a College Old Boy btw, outnumbers the Wood’s total wins. Do not shoot the messenger. If a school like Glenwood fails the ultimately the country fails. We need strong government schools.
@The Beast: Avoidance & deflection, classic cowardice & trolling. Name?
@Grasshopper: Tell us about that Man of the Match effort against John Smit and PBHS…..sure we can do with another long tale…..I dare you….
@The Beast: you obviously a childish backstabbing insignificant little person. No, slept well thanks. You are no friend or family of mine. Still too scared to tell me who you are, such cowardice. How pathetic, hiding behind an avatar.
@Grasshopper: Were you sitting up all night waiting for me to post?
Stop trying to guess, you will never work it out, sometimes your biggest nemesis is hiding right in front of you.
Just start being truthful when you speak about your rugby prowess. Admit how dogbone you were and that you could not catch a cold…..then you might get a better clue……and you could not beat up the whole class cos you were a little cry baby just like you are now……have a super day Hop….you definitely did not play at KERF in 96, either.
Come now spill the truth…..
@The Beast: Kane?
@Grasshopper: Was your day spoilt my little cry baby, keep your dummy in because today could become another long day!!!! You have been removed from my FB list, there is your clue……decode it.
@Bush: I think I better come hide with you in Nam cos Hopper is on the rampage, I do know he can’t catch me though……not with that tummy.
@BOG: Hey Oom, I’m here in Windhoek. Why are okes running to Germany, UK and Cape Town? Come here to NAM it’s beautiful. I’m staying here forever. Going to miss SBR though.
@Grasshopper:”Grasshopper on 9 February, 2017 @ 21:44
@Gungets Tuft: dude, you don’t know me at all, you have never met me. So I can’t really judge you either. Let’s leave it there…
I have no idea who GT is, but all I know is he’s from my area. So he will be a gem of an oke. And he’s from College. Peace and Love my best buddy. Can’t wait for SBR. I miss my sister
@Grasshopper: Hey Hopper my best buddy. Jis these okes are chowing you. What can I do to help you my best buddy? I don’t know Waterpolo but I can swim?????????
@The Beast: played Varsity under21, check with Toppy (if you know him), Collegians under 21B and Westville OBs under 21 and 1st team. But you the big boy hero hiding, let’s see…
@The Beast: come on big brave beast, just a first name or surname will do! Too scared now? There is no one from the 96 year group I’m scared of. Come on stop hiding little girl..
@The Beast: ok then tell me who you are brave man. I played 3rds and 4ths with Peter Zsitvai & Guy Cooke, played a good few games. 3rds and 4th’s actually won team of the year together as I reckon they could have beaten the 2nds and 1st’s. You certainly no mate of mine with your comments, I can only think you either Andrew Ferguson, Andrew Dickason, Rudi Urbach or Jason Brennan. Never cried once you little weasel!
@Grasshopper: Unfortunately, I do know you and I doubt if any of the people on this blog would wanna meet a childish little girl like you are. You were a cry baby at school and you have not changed. Stop throwing your dummy out the cot and tell the bloggers the damn truth about your rugby prowess.
Try gain some respect with the truth because you know that you are the biggest bullshitter that has ever come out of Glenwood.
@Gawie: whoever you are you are obviously an old friend or acquaintance, let’s be mature about this and email me with the issues you have. Instead of hiding behind and avatar and attacking me on a public forum…
@Gungets Tuft: dude, you don’t know me at all, you have never met me. So I can’t really judge you either. Let’s leave it there…
@Grasshopper: Phone these common friends and break the bad news about my character. I’m sure they’ll see the light and shun me, given your impeccable word and judgement.
@Grasshopper it’s “water off a duck’s back”. You see the whole point is that the water does not remain on the duck’s back; it just glides off – like the ball used to glide off your hands. Quality GW education #notjustaruggaschool
@Gungets Tuft: predictable answer from the all knowing ‘wise-one’. Go and read HPWP, you might learn something. Greenstones is a joke just like Scumbilo is, lighten up. You see I respected you due to the people we both know who I respect, but your recent posts haven’t been mature or acknowledging that people can have different views.
@Grasshopper: Expected nothing less from you. The differences between you and me.
First, I actually do care what people think of me because it’s a reflection of my behaviour, morals, ethics and maturity. They’re important. If people think badly of me because I behave decently then that’s their issue.
Acting like a chop is not an act of independence, it’s just acting like a chop.
Unlike you I’ve never respected you. You’ve not done enough to earn it. You always respond predictably childishly when under pressure, that pressure always of your own making. I suggest a little introspection. But then you’ve nothing to learn from others.
Keep doing the Greenstones thing, it’s the most reliable indicator that you’ve run out of even your low standard of answers and have resorted to “your mother wears combat boots”. I’ll not be dragged down to your level, you’ll just beat me with experience.
@Gungets Tuft: you see I don’t need to be relevant or get approval from a bunch of bloggers I’ve never met. I had respect for you a while back but that’s dwindled with time, the pedestal you on is so high you in the clouds.
@Gungets Tuft: yes GT old wise one…
@Slam: I honestly don’t care, it’s not all about winning. I would rather Glenwood do things transparently and lose than do dodgy things and win.
@Grasshopper: You really are a child. It’s not a hissy fit, it’s pity. Desperately searching for some relevance and coming up short every time.
@McCulleys Workshop: all true…so…
@Grasshopper: you need some new material Hopper. Considering the dark financial cloud hanging over Glenwood are you not concerned how they will fund rugby bursaries in the future in order to maintain their rugby status?
@Grasshopper: Hopper, we all know your multiple stories, because you tell them, right here on this blog. Granddads, Mom, Dad, Sisters, mates at WOB, rugby sides played for, degree, career, school choices for your cat… esv.
@McCulleys Workshop: no story telling, I made it clear I didn’t play first team & was at KERF in 1996. My personal story has nothing to do with you or the blog so bugger off silver spooner!
@Greenman: actually I lie, half this blog celebrated Glenwood’s losses to Monnas & Affies. Water on a ducks back really. I know I’m not liked in the inner Glenwood sanctum but Im like a lone voice on Twitter promoting the school, although they have upped their game in Twitter, Facebook & Instagram so well done to them.
@Greenman: http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/water-polo-kzn-u18-selections-2017/
I’ve started a new hashtag; #notjustaruggaschool
@Greenman: I think Banana is the one who celebrated Glenwoods losses to Monnas & Affies, not a true College OB…
@beet: well, I am just happy it is back again. We need to keep KZN rugby strong and not divided. Maybe they can help us out with a bit of finances to save our school. What you reckon Banana sorry bwana?
@Greenman: I’m not 100% sure but I think Greg Miller heading up Hilton rugby has a lot to do with the reconciliation but still Hilton should ask Glenwood to consider making the match an official outing. I think that would be a great gesture and perhaps help outsiders see HC in a different light once again.
@Hooit: In #8 your prediction was damn close. To close for comfort! Did you do the draw and in 3 games got over ruled?
@Greenman: Pity. I’m going to DHS vs Northwood that day. Was hoping for a Durban double.
@beet: Hilton. Will be flying down for that! Cant wait for the season to begin.
Maybe we can talk rugby again and lose these character crusaders!
@McCulleys Workshop: I am really not interested in talking shite with you so just lay off.
@Greenman: Where is the game taking place?
@McCulleys Workshop: a 37 year old schoolboy, you know Glenwood anything is possible.
@Greenman: I’m actually not sure anymore. In post 62 Hops played in a 1st team tourno, then he said at some point 2nds, now 3rds, his mates say 4th and 5th. I think he may be a current schoolboy.
@beet: Hilton are going to need all the practice they can get with AFFIES up first in their Easter Fest, although Affies didn’t have a strong under16 group last year.
@beet: 11 March I believe and only the 1 st team
@Greenman: I think they played a chukka controlled practice match last year as well? When is this warmup game on? Hilton should have a decent side.
@GreenBlooded: now I await GT’s hissy fit…
@GreenBlooded: no win for College in years, might even be 10 games on the trot now, I’ll get the stats. We might have no choice but to rename Goldstones Greenstones….?
@Greenman: it’s months until doomsday…,
@Bwana:
Maybe you should defer your celebration of Glenwood’s imminent failure until after the match this year. Great new coach might cause a few surprises. You might have to be content with high gives and back slapping should GW take a beating from one of the Big 5 like against Affies last year…..
@Greenman: bunch of nerds, the lot of them…
@Bwana: That sad! How long do u think they have got?
@McCulleys Workshop: Really
@Greenman: he is being childish & sarcastic again, me Alan Morrissey. You see not afraid to say who I am, bunch of cowards this ‘wolf’ pack…
@Greenman: Big Al Morrissey
@Bwana: That’s been circling for a few weeks. If true it’s actually sad, and hopefully they will be able to raise the required funding. As an aside, renting, leasing, buying players and coaches wholesale is not a sustainable financial model.
@McCulleys Workshop: Al who?
@Greenman: That’s great, did Al make the side?
So Hilton is playing Glenwood in a warm up game!
@McCulleys Workshop: Give me a few hours and I’ll post results of the U.K. Schools played. Even though we were from the last outpost we had no great fondness for the rooineks. We would always like to send them homeward to think again…
@Rottweiler: Pretty childish for a grown adult and took one step too far posting a pic with my kids in it…..take the piss with me but DO NOT include my kids..
@Rottweiler: but he doesn’t know me that well, as a few of his claims are fake news.
@Rottweiler: Knocked out by what? Beast is too scared to reveal who he is as he knows me well. I have an idea of who it is, always tried to take the piss with me since we met….
I would like to answer one question. Where the fok have Beast and the oke been. Jis it looks like Hopper has been knocked out.
In the jungle, the mighty jungle
The lion sleeps tonight
In the jungle the quiet jungle
The lion sleeps tonight
Near the village the peaceful village
The lion sleeps tonight
Near the village the quiet village
The lion sleeps tonight
Hush my darling don’t fear my darling
The lion sleeps tonight
Hush my darling don’t fear my darling
The lion sleeps tonight
SLEEP LEKKER BOK NAAI HOPPER
@The Beast: Can’t be the same guy I know? Hopper is a GW legend. Whahahahaha I just stopped my Jeep on Dune 45 in Namibia to piss myself.
I hear via some of my sources in Durban that the bubble is about to burst at our favourite school adjacent to the Docks. Money is tight and the funds are about to be finished. Understandable when something like over a 100 boys in their BE do not pay a cent.
@Tang: You will be fine then as he is a good player. I wish I could be there to watch PBHS vs Glenwood, will be a good game. Glenwood will have a very good backline which is exciting, all played 1st team at some point in 2016.
@Tang: Yep, agreed. Glenwood had a poor 90’s decade, playing 103 games vs local traditional opposition and only winning 43 and drawing 3, win % of 42%. I guess OB’s and the Head said enough is enough and started a proper Sports Academy with a professional approach & coaching (when Sean Erasmus arrived). Between 2000 and 2010 this showed results, improving the win ratio to 68% (played 96, winning 65 and 2 draws). I think only from about 2011 and Marne-gate did they overstep the mark and poach/recruit after grade 8. That was a huge mistake as that is where all the animosity and hatred started. I’m hoping the new management are moving back to 2000 to 2010 policy, great intake and look after them. What is funny though is the boys who have made SA Schools recently have all been at Glenwood since grade 8, which shows you don’t need recruits later on. They disrupt more than gel the team…
@Grasshopper: Yes he is back. The whole loose trio is back.
@Grasshopper: Boys High easily field 10 open teams and up to 6 at u14, u15 and u16.
Affies is right next door to Boys High, Menlo Park is less than 4 km’s away and then you obviously have the other Pretoria schools with lofty rugby aspirations. It is no secret that Menlo Park and Garsfontein are very active recruiters. In many cases this means Boys High lose out on rugby players with a good primary school pedigree.
In the 1990’s and the early 2000’s, the sheer numbers at Boys High offset the level of recruitment/ bursaries offered by traditional competitors. I would estimate that from 2009 onwards, there was a major shift in how aggressively some of the traditional rivals began to recruit. I don’t mean to pick on Jeppe but they are the classic case of throwing money at the problem and the results have followed. I know Ringo will claim it is not only the bursaries but I would beg to differ. Remove the bursary players/ sponsored by old boy players from the fixture and watch how results will transform.
At the moment PBHS are adamant they will not follow the inevitable route, and unfortunately, this will see much more losses over the next few seasons. Glenwood is another great case study of how bursaries have transformed a rugby programme. Jeppe and SACS have taken this route and now you see Hilton, St Albans, etc climbing on board.
@McCulleys Workshop: found a picture of you here; http://www.comedyunit.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/thebaldyman.jpg
@McCulleys Workshop: OK Baldy, what is your name then? Who is Bush? Speartackle is the only oke brave enough to disclose who he is.
@Tang: At Saints I rated your No8, is he back? I think for PBHS they just need to ensure as many boys as possible play and gems will be discovered. PBHS’s numbers are huge, there has to be un-nutured talent there. I reckon PBHS could probably put out 25 to 30 teams possibly…
@Grasshopper: That sounds like you
@Vleis: Last years PBHS side faced challenges on and off the field. There were times when the Boys High FB page lit up with criticism. If you trolled through the comments, you would see how divided the OB’s are on the way forward. I do believe sports bursaries are required to bring back the parity with traditional opponents. I am not advocating anything as drastic as Jeppe but a few select bursaries to plug some of the areas of weakness. I also believe that giving bursaries to carefully selected individuals will not compromise academics or school values. Bursaries should be given at grade 8 level and should not be tied to performance. Take the risk and invest in individuals who would never have had the chance to attend PBHS.
I think this year’s group would have learnt from last year and will be far more competitive. I know there is not a single boy who pulls on the Candies jersey and doesn’t give 100%.
@The Beast: Not sure what you on about…
@The Beast: Glenwood KERF squad…
15 – Greg Manning (lives in Perth now, one of two DPHS Old Boys that year at Glenwood)
14 – Zenzele Ngema
13 – Lucky Massina
12 – Michael Trousdale
11 – David Anderson
10 – Bronson Dreyer (did a Post Matric and missed a kick in front of poles to lose a game)
9 – Sydney Joelsen
8 – Reggie Van Rensburg (good friend from the Bluff)
7 – Charles Dobbins (played with him in Varsity U21 side)
6 – Nicholas Strauss (ex Dale boy, now playing for Narbonne in France)
5 – Gregg Bird
4 – Luke Smith
3 – Victor Tsewu (played cricket with him, only started rugga in standard 8)
2 – Bongani Zibane (played SA Under 15 cricket, good friends with Linda Zondi the current Proteas selector)
1 – Sean Erasmus (did Post matric and made Natal Schools)
@Grasshopper: Do you remember that time your pop was filming two games at the same time……cos i do!!!
He had a full production team it seems.
@McCulleys Workshop: No one else uses their real-name, too bloody poep scared to in case their fairy tales are found out.
@Grasshopper: Hop, fly your flag again, use your real name and remind us who you are. Why did you change back to Hopper?
@Grasshopper: Sorry about that Hop, an honest mistake. Guess what you have seen my KNOB……..hahahaha.
@Grasshopper: Give us the Greenmachine squad of 1996, please.
@The Beast: That was my father who passed 3 years ago knobhead…
@McCulleys Workshop: College squad at KERF 96;
15 – Gary Van Vuuren
14 – Ross Wilson
13 – William Rorich
12 – Michael Dick
11 – John Camp
10 – Andre Van Vuuren
9 – Matt Botha
8 – Brad Thompson
7 – Nick Cruickshank
6 – Devon Gaffrey
5 – John Versfeld
4 – Grant Roodt
3 – Warwick Brant
2 – Richard Kelly
1 – Taso Holman
@Grasshopper: Gramps used to send you all the Glenwood games while you were living abroad I can well remember. I guess that was just another one of your very tall tales then.
Eish so many fibs to remember.
@Slam: @Vleis: From memory it was MC who lost to Tonbridge. Tonbridge were good with big fast loose forwards. MC pulled the rabbit out the hat to beat Gisborn. It was a fierce game and typical college 15 man performance of huge temperament and aggressive defense. I think Cruikshank was in that College side.
@McCulleys Workshop:
@The Beast: both grandfathers passed before 1984…
@McCulleys Workshop: His grandpa was the cameraman in that game so he got a full copy in his library.
@McCulleys Workshop: no it was Irene….
@Playa: Did Hopper play for Dale in that game, or Al?
@Vleis: It was MC who lost to Tonbridge if i remember correctly
@Bush: I am sure Hopper kept Wax on those paws of his, jeepers he could not catch a thing……open tryline….no jokes!!!
He even let the most los of chics slip through his fingers while hanging with us Waxies!!!
@Vleis: Yeah…just realised my grammar was horrible in my previous post. We played them on a Wednesday afternoon and they beat us. Then they played Selborne, the following Monday and lost to them. We then went on to beat Selborne the following Saturday.
Disclaimer: By ‘us’ I mean Dale – I DID NOT PLAY. I repeat…I DID NOT PLAY. I was in Std 6 and waterboy.
@The Beast: Still hiding behind your avatar…..such a hero
@Grasshopper: If you came back for a Post Toastie you might have got a full game for Thirsty Thirds!!!!!
@The Beast: Never not against House of all Schools????
@Grasshopper I just remember you blogging on R365 (in the guise of your Al alter-ego) that you played 1st XV so that is why I asked the question. Is Waxies Glenwood code-speak for Westville?
@McCulleys Workshop: Cant stop laughing now.
Hoppy hop hop…… nothing like being caught out….you do add value to Glenwood though……believe you are Glenwood citizen of the year, every year running. Do you remember when you dropped that ball with an open tryline against House……jeez oke…..we loved you lots.
@Playa: Thanks Playa. I’m leaning towards Southland Boys now. Did you guys play them at all in ’96? Pity we don’t have any kiwi SBR tours anymore, as they are the only country who’s SBR is at the same level as ours in SA.
@Vleis: They also lost to Selborne in East London; and this a week after they pumped Dale at the Graveyard.
Dale then hammered Selborne a week after…that more than made up for the envy of our fierce rival getting a Kiwi scalp we couldn’t get
@Vleis: @Slam: On reflection, perhaps the unbeaten NZ school in ’96 was Southland Boys.
Which school was the big scalp that Tonbridge got in ’96? I seem to remember that it was a powerhouse SA school, so perhaps GCB, or maybe MC? Can you help me with that?
Sounds like Slam, Mc, Gawie and Beast (aka Boerboel & Rottweiler) are all sitting at Waxies together trying to take the piss. No worries, I have thick skin….go for it boys. Sad that you get enjoyment attacking a fellow blogger…
@Grasshopper: Why don’t you read 62. above, but I guess you didn’t write it, Al did.
@McCulleys Workshop: I never once said I played 1st team at school, I played Westville Old Boys 1st team and Varsity Under21A when Toppy coached the side.
@Grasshopper: Ok, your “other” persona played 1st in 1996, I forgot. Which one was it Al?
@Rottweiler: thanks for the compliment. Here is my unde13a cricket pic, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3MdInZWIAEEKfx?format=jpg&name=large
I’ll try find the rugga ones for you….
@Grasshopper: Hahahahahaha been strangled by your own foreskin. You played 5ths for GW during the years they were rubbish. How krap or how crap were you. Hahshahahsha
@Slam: Ok cool, Well done to MC for keeping the SA flag flying in ’96. It must’ve been a different NZ school side that went unbeaten in SA. I specifically remember bumping into them at the airport when they were about to head home…and they were well behaved, but pretty effing happy with themselves!
The Affies results are correct though, as they’re on their website and I watched GCB struggle to beat a very small Monmouth team at Saints in the early 90’s and a mate (who went to St Olave’s) told me about his tour to SA in the 90’s. They did not lose by much to GCB, but he still gets goosebumps when he talks about the GCB assemly that they attended prior to the game. Perhaps BOG can help re the GCB results.
@Grasshopper: Agreed that the pom schools often send u17 teams to SA in June/July…BUT…not always. On a number of occasions they’ve sent their full teams, as it’s a final jaunt for their boys – e.g. when my son played in a cricket festival in the UK in July last year, all the pom boys who had just graduated still played in same. ALSO, the teams that attended St John’s, etc were the current 1st team boys at the very end of their season…so no excuses there, and yet, they got hammed by HJS by over 70, when HJS were ranked about 10 in SA.
@Grasshopper: I love your stories, you keep me entertained about our Old School….I get all the news from you….never been back…….our parents scarred us both for life sending us to that asylum.
@McCulleys Workshop: Yes Mc…….one of the cowards who won’t use his own name.
@Gawie: What you on about……you guys say I mustn’t bring personal stories into the blog then you go on about it. Who cares what I did, we talking KERF here.
@McCulleys Workshop: BS baffles brains as always!!!
Maybe Hopper can show the 4th team pic for all to see, then everyone will also know who the BEAST is…….hahahaha.
Or that pic from KERF where he played against John Smit.
And that is how you deal with Grasshopper folks. No need to get all hot and bothered. He hangs himself with his own rope.
@McCulleys Workshop: Hopper tells more porkies than he eats!
@Gawie: @Slam: @The Beast: @Grasshopper:
Hopper, I sense one of your self imposed “periods” of absence coming on.
@Vleis: Never let facts get in the way of a good story but College beat Gisborne in 1996 at Kerf.
@Slam: Nothing like facts to catch Big Al out. BS from 16 onwards, I know he was the oke who always dropped balls in the 4ths and the coach bollocked him all day long.
Jeez where did you pull that one from…….Kerf for the Hopper.
@Vleis: Good times. Not sure Grey and co would pump the UK schools 50 plus these days. I have been watching quite a bit of schoolboy rugby here and it’s improved drastically too. Bedford and Tonbridge are up there still and have a few ex Saffa kids in their squads. I think the reason they seem weak when they tour SA is differing seasons, the UK schools go in with a more under17 team than under18. Also it’s the beginning of their season vs the end of SA one. I think the number of strong schools in SA is far larger though. The best kids play club here unless in private schooling where rugby is offered..
@Grasshopper: Whopper I mean Hopper the internet never forgets. You say you didn’t play at Kerf in 1996 but in 2012 you posted you in fact did play there
http://schoolboyrugby.co.za/?p=971 Comment 115
“@Brum, great article that. I wonder in NZ check the age of their kids playing, because they could have the same issue as KZN schools had this year. I’m not implying that this side was over aged, but they must have been something to smash everyone like they did. College were very strong in the early to mid 90’s with players like Pieter Dixon, Wayne Munn, Geoff Appleford, Rob Linde, Matt Frank, Trevor Boynton, Richard Kelly etc…
I think Gisborne played at Kearsney Fest in 1996 and came unstuck against a brilliant Affies side. I stand to be corrected. I played at that Kearsney tourno and so did John Smit for Pretoria Boys High….great memories..”
@Grasshopper: Affies lost 10 to 5 to Gisborne, which turned out to be their only loss of the season. They won 26 (!!), drew one (v Eldos! Times have changed, although I hear that things are on the up there) and lost to Gisborne.
I seem to remember two things about that era:
1. Our SBR was nowhere close to the level that it is at now, as that same season Affies had a narrow win over Tonbridge and I think that even the mighty GCB had narrow wins over average pom schools like St Olave’s, Monmouth, etc and lost to Tonbridge (I think?) in the early to mid 90s. Now, Affies and GCB would beat the top pom school by at least 50.
2. Gisborne, despite playing many of our top schools, were unbeaten on that tour…which rubbed salt into the already gaping wounds caused by the Bokke losing a home series to the ABs for the first time ever!
@Tang: St Alban’s started to give some rugby bursaries at the end of last year, which is too late for my son, but I support the move. Like Kattes said on another thread, the mighty Doc Craven was strongly against professionalism in rugby, but things change and one must move with the times. So, it’s time for the PBHS OBs to put serious pressure on the PBHS mgt to move out of the stone age. If all old traditions were worth keeping so vehemently, why don’t they still cane all the boys?
Good luck to the 1st team though, as the vitriol that the 1st team boys endured last year was extremely unpleasant to witness. Do you have a son playing 1st team this year?
@Gawie: We must have played each other cos Hopper and I played a bit of 5ths as well.
Can’t believe my parents put me through 3 yrs at Glenwood, were harsh times after being at Hilton.
@Gawie: Yep, in standard 9…
@Grasshopper: Didn’t you play in the 5ths or the 4ths, cause I swear that I rmember playing against you?
@Gawie: Well you were not told to leave a seat for Jannie or Kobus back then…;-)
@Grasshopper: Hopper we played 4ths together and can’t recall you playing 2nds in my time.
@Grasshopper: Ahh the old days Hops! When sbr was pure and you could tour and not worry about extra boys on the bus for the ride home!
@oldschool: Agreed, Kearsney is the only KZN private that hasn’t avoided the tough fixtures and still continues to play Glenwood, so they not ‘woesing’ out. With their smaller numbers it’s tough to have the depth to play the Tier 1 schools. Although a Kearsney vs EG Jansen or Monnas would have been interesting as I don’t believe they have played them before.
@Gawie: Nope, athletics. The big Pentagular that used to be held every year, KES, Pretoria Boys, DHS, College and Glenwood. Loved them! We didn’t really tour like they do these days. Pretoria Boys did play at the Kearsney 75th Anniversary Festival where we lost to them with John Smit at tighthead. I played mainly 3rd’s and 2nd’s so only watched the games there. Game of the festival was undoubtedly Affies vs Gisborne, it was like a test match. Affies had Johan Roets, Eduard Coetzee, Skipper Badenhorst, Eugene Marx and massive Sarel Eloff. Gisborne had Rico Gear and a few provincial players. I forget who won though, didn’t matter….
@oldschool: Valid points but when you have played the toughest teams in previous years surely you continue the tradition? I was just surprised to see Kearsney not lined up against the likes of Selborne or Monument this year.
@Grasshopper: were you hosted at PBHS when you toured with the 1st XV?
Hopper were you hosted at PBHS when you toured with the 1st XV?
@Slam: they always do Man up …. every year we play the toughest teams at our own festival …. when Grey Bloem were participants we played them every year , we have played Selbourne 3 times , Affies , Paarl Gim , Boland Landbou , HTS Middelburg and Noord Kaap when they had 10 or so u19s ….. no problem with manning up as you say …. we are the only KZN private that has regularly played the proper tier one schools over the last 10 years !
in addition to our u14s annually going to the Monument u14 festival , our u15s to the Affies festival and our u16s to the Jeppe fest …. we don’t hide our boys from the real world bud !
@Slam: I think Drostdy will be a challenge but you are possibly right. Kearsney hasn’t played the likes of EG or Selborne who are KERF regulars in a while. And I’m not sure if Kearsney has ever played Monnas.
Kearsney should man up and play Selborne or Monument or even one of Queens or Dale. No disrespect to the opponents they are playing at the festival but it does look like 3 easier fixtures.
Anybody know what Maritzburg College will be like this year every thing seem quite there.
@Riempies: It here on the site just have a look being going for a few years now.
@Queenian: Can someone give the name? or send link. Can also join more than one for those who want.
@Riempies: Beet already has one up.
Dale have one of the hardest fixtures here so we will see what they made of at a age group level this Dale team was rather weak but Dale always seem to be able to make something from nothing.
Its called “Griffy” the man is a genius.
Will hate to know what will happen if he leaves Dale when he left for 1 season a few years ago it was a disaster.
@Grasshopper: Yip agree they might still struggle does not help your boys lose week in and week out.
Last year I think there 1st team only won 4 out of 8 even here in the Eastern Cape so still a long way.
There Under 14 A were a pretty decent side last year as far as I know the only game they lost was to Glenwood they even beat a very good Queens Under 14 by a few points.
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@Tang: It definitely won’t be an easy festival for PBHS.
@Tang: They mustn’t have been on a par with MHS last year?
@Queenian: fyi http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/wp-content/uploads/SPORT20RESULT20VS20FRAMESBY200920APRIL202016.pdf
Framesby might struggle for a couple years still…
@GreenBlooded: agreed, Rudi has inside knowledge. Hopefully Glenwood move away from the bash bash rugby of the past two years. Loving that these two schools meet, I have a fond spot for PBHS having been hosted by them 22 years ago now. I think the two schools have quite a bit in common.
@Tang:
Going to be interesting to see Rudi Dames at the helm for PBHS against his old team. I’m sure he will do great things at PBHS.
@Vleis post 2: I must agree with you. Is this a step too far taken too quickly. Unfortunately for PBHS, they will have to perform open heart/ lung surgery while running a marathon. PBHS rugby can’t hide. The more they face the realities and harshness of the current school boy rugby climate, the sooner they will realise more needs to be done to the rugby programme.
There should be quite a few starters from last year, so I think this side will be more of a challenge than last year. I am certainly not saying they will be world beaters but they are brave and by all accounts will fight for each other.
@Queenian: PBHS vs. Queens on day 1. I watched the teams play as u16’s at the Jeppe tournament. If I can recall correctly, there was parity in the forwards, but Queens had the upper hand in the backs. The teams were evenly matched, but Queens pulled away through a few quick tries amongst the backs.
PBHS should be a different prospect now. A few of the players have grown and matured significantly since u16.
I reckon PBHS will struggle on day two when they face Glenwood. Glenwood will probably be just too physical for PBHS. Anyone at KERF have a look at the comparison in players when PBHS and Glenwood run on the field.
I can’t recall a single occasion last year when PBHS were on physical parity with opposition.
PBHS should be a hardy bunch but may just fall short in physicality.
I got day 1 predictions correct but from there I missed the boat. Pity EG vs Glenwood is not happening. At least for the current Monnas squad playing Dale is a new experience.
@Queenian: Should be good.
@Playa: Both Dale and Queens have there work cut out here not sure if they will come through this without a loss.
Lets hope the Border boys make us proud.
Also Framesby hope they pull a few big one here.
@Skopgraaf243:
it may have been copied onto a stiffy, then flash by now.
@Playa .. sorry can’t find the floppy in archive for that one, but it probably is
@Skopgraaf243: LOL!
I figured. Let me guess…this was happened in 1996 right?
Monument
@Skopgraaf243: Hahahaha! Well…right back to earth they went I guess.
What school did you go to?
AndreT…besides Glenwood en Noord Kaap (based on last year), its all good line-up or upcoming performers eg. Drostdy.
Im sure Glenwood would like to push back on the critics with the help of last years big u16 side.
Dale is doing well, Queens is playing good brand, problem with both is depth might be a concern later in season.
Kearsney is owing their supporters a big season which I am sure they would like to get off to big start!
Framesby has alaways been good apponents, and Selborn was no.1 in 1994 last I think, drew last year with Monument, so maybe they can climb the rankings.
HTSM always a cracker!
@Skopgraaf243:
Looking forward to this tournament, Will be my first look at some schools. I heard so much of the style of play by Dale and Queens
Reading up on Hooits predictions facing off with Dale College.
I remember playing Dale College at a St Johns festival years ago.
Something that just stuck to my m8nd was when we had arrived at the dinner hall, Dale claimed a table on the stage of the hall. 17 unbeaten games and all etc.
After our match we beat them 22 – 20, thee following dinner they had no claim and took first table by the door on the left
@Andre T: Ek is hoopvol dat die organiseerders my verkeerd wil bewys en dan so paar games verander.
@Hooit: Sou eerder n Monna vs Queens of teen Kearsney wou sien
@Alan Morrissey: I confirmed another 1or 4 games. I am now 95% sure. Thank you to my friends in Mpumalanga and Kimberley. The daily order I cannot predict.
Day 1
Kearsney vs Drostdy
Selborne vs EG
Queens vs Pretoria BH
Monnas vs Dale
Glenwood vs Framesby (?)
HTSM vs Noordkaap
Day 2
Noordkaap vs Queens
Glenwood vs EG
Kearsney vs Framesby
Pretoria BH vs Selborne
Dale vs Drostdy
Monnas vs HTSM
Day 3
Drostdy vs Pretoria BH
Framesby vs EG
HTSM vs Dale
Glenwood vs Noordkaap
Selborne vs Monnas
Kearsney vs Queens.
15 out of 18 games are confirmed by 1 or both schools. Lets wait and see. I would prefer if the Monnas vs HTSM game is changed.
Glenwood have a separate fixture with Framesby, surely it will be Dale, Noord Kaap & Queens instead. Or EG like this year….
@GreenBlooded: Half of each days predictions have already been confirmed. The other half is gut calculations/feel.
@GreenBlooded: I actually don’t know if those fixtures are final or not but last time I checked (this week) Framesby and Glenwood were still matched while the Monnas boys seem to think they will be playing HTSM, so I would place reliance on those two “gut feels” being correct at the time of posting.
@beet:
Are those the final fixtures? Or just ou Hooit’s gut feel?
@beet: Talk about an epic fail
@Playa: To me that’s part of School Rugby Festival Fixture Setting 101: Find out which schools have annual interschools matchdays and DON’T PAIR THEM!
Unfortunately Glenwood and Framesby now have to play twice in 2017 because of the oversight.
Apart from the interschools no-go, it also sort of defeats the purpose of playing at a festival when teams from the same region* have to play against each other. Like Monnas vs HTS Middelburg who could potentially meet three time in 2017.
*excluding Pretoria
@Cappie: Framesby gaan Sanix toe.
@Hooit: Glenwood has an annual fixture vs Framesby. So that might also need changing
Or maybe EG vs Glenwood and Queens vs Noordkaap on day 2
I have been asking without any success. If I look at the confirmed games and different regions playing against each other, here are my predictions for Kearsney Easter Festival.
Kearsney vs Drostdy
Selborne vs EG Jansen
Queen’s vs Pretoria BH
Monument vs Dale
Glenwood vs Framesby
HTS Middelburg vs Noord-Kaap
EG Jansen vs Queen’s
Glenwood vs Noord-Kaap
Kearsney vs Framesby
Pretoria BH Selborne
Dale vs Drostdy
Monument vs HTS Middelburg
Drostdy vs Pretoria BH
Framesby vs EG Jansen
HTS Middelburg vs Dale
Glenwood vs Queen’s
Selborne vs Monument
Kearsney vs Noordkaap
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@Cappie:
Lichtenburg
This is fore sure also a very balanced line up and probably my pick of Easter tournaments. Does any one know who is playing Sanix next year?
Monnas playing Selborne, Dale and HTS
@Vleis: PBHS are getting the Glenwood Head Coach so are getting serious about putting the wheels back on…
As much as I’d like our neighbours to do well, I think it’s a mistake for PBHS to move to KERF before they’re sure that they’ve sorted out their rugby structures/issues.
I would love Glenwood to play PBHS, Queens & Drostdy to play different opposition ?