| NMI TOYOTA NOORD SUID | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Day 1 : Fri 28-Mar-2025 | ||||||
| 08h30 | WP | Parel Vallei | 57-19 | Mali Foundation XV | EP | |
| 10h00 | WP | SACS | 31-12 | Welkom Gim | GRF | |
| 11h30 | SWD | Outeniqua | 24-34 | Menlopark | BUL | |
| 13h00 | WP | Boland Landbou | 71-10 | EG Jansen | VAL | |
| 14h30 | WP | Durbanville | 27-21 | Monument | LIO | |
| 16h00 | BOL | Drostdy | 15-57 | Affies | BUL | |
| 17h30 | WP | HJS Paarl BH | 66-00 | Waterkloof | BUL | |
| 19h00 | WP | Paarl Gim | 102-00 | KES | LIO | |
| Day 2 : Sat 29-Mar-2025 | ||||||
| 08h00 | EP | Framesby | 60-07 | Duineveld | GRQ | |
| 09h30 | GRQ | Diamantveld | 24-60 | Rustenburg | LEO | |
| 11h00 | BOL | Worcester Gim | 31-41 | Marais Viljoen | LIO | |
| 12h30 | EP | Nico Malan | 17-33 | Helpmekaar | LIO | |
| 14h00 | WP | Stellenberg | 52-07 | Voortrekker (Beth) | GRF | |
| 15h30 | SWD | Oakdale | 45-12 | Nelspruit | PUM | |
| 17h00 | WP | Rondebosch | 38-12 | Jeppe | LIO | |
| 18h30 | FS | Grey College | 24-22 | Noordheuwel | LIO | |
| 20h00 | WP | Paul Roos | 34-32 | Garsfontein | BUL | |
| Day 3 : Mon 31-Mar-2025 | ||||||
| 08h30 | WP | Melkbosstrand | 25-24 | Mali Foundation XV | EP | |
| 10h00 | SWD | Outeniqua | 50-24 | Welkom Gim | GRF | |
| 11h30 | BOL | Drostdy | 29-43 | Menlopark | BUL | |
| 13h00 | WP | Durbanville | 34-16 | EG Jansen | VAL | |
| 14h30 | WP | Boland Landbou | 46-37 | Waterkloof | BUL | |
| 16h00 | WP | SACS | 27-05 | KES | LIO | |
| 17h30 | WP | Paarl Gim | 66-16 | Monument | LIO | |
| 19h00 | WP | HJS Paarl BH | 25-17 | Affies | BUL | |
| Day 4 : Tue 01-Apr-2025 | ||||||
| 07h30 | WP | Brackenfell | 38-12 | Marais Viljoen | LIO | |
| 09h00 | EP | Nico Malan | 15-15 | Rustenburg | LEO | |
| 10h30 | GRQ | Duineveld | 19-53 | Voortrekker (Beth) | GRF | |
| 12h00 | EP | Framesby | 29-59 | Diamantveld | GRQ | |
| 13h30 | WP | Rondebosch | 47-12 | Nelspruit | PUM | |
| 15h00 | WP | Stellenberg | 18-25 | Garsfontein | BUL | |
| 16h30 | SWD | Oakdale | 40-21 | Helpmekaar | LIO | |
| 18h00 | FS | Grey College | 64-31 | Jeppe | LIO | |
| 19h30 | WP | Paul Roos | 26-19 | Noordheuwel | LIO | |
RANKING THE RANKERS ON HOLD
Die massiewe biertent was well attended…
@Hanswors (Comment #432)
En, natuurlik, die feit dat die laerskole toernooi nie ook in Stellenbosch was nie. Verlede jaar by Affies was helfte van die hoofpawiljoen vol kinders wat in die laerskooltoernooi gespeel het.
@Hanswors (Comment #432)
En dan moet die biertent en die feit dat die pawiljoen wat op tv wys in die son in kyk ook in ag geneem word
BYWONING N/S
Hier Noord is daar nie regtig ander plekke om te besoek vir die spanne van die Suide nie en het hulle en hulle ondersteuners meestal by die rugby gekuier.
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #408)
I tend to agree with you in terms of the attendance, I don’t have the facts, but it certainly felt thay way. Having said that, the boys thoroughly enjoyed the tour and it was a privilege to play at the Markotter.
@Buthelezi2 (Comment #429)
Interesting thoughts… Paarl Gim is one of the best sides I have seen in a while… Very well coached as well and LOTS of talent! My view the no.1 side in the country this year. It will take a mamoth effort and some luck to beat them! I therefore disagree with your top 5…
Paarl Boys are the most intense team I’ve seen at schoolboy level and their tight 5 is second to none. Affies also have an exceptional team that has the ability to rank first but as you say need some BMT in big games. Gim will win tight games but just don’t have the pure talent to reach for 1st or 2nd spots. Haven’t been convinced at all by Grey so far but they’ll never be far off because that’s just not accepted in their community. PRG have also looked shaky so far but I think so much about them goes through their injured hooker and their season may ultimately rely on when he can return to play for them.
@Buthelezi2 (Comment #424)
That is not true!
The reasoning was the schools from the north have to travel to especially the Western Cape for u.14, u.15 and u.16 tournaments. So, in their whole school career they will never the chance to play in the north against the same schools if Noord Suid is also held in the Western Cape. Conversely, the schools from the south won’t get the chance to play up north if all the big tournaments from junior to senior level are held in the south.
As for the southern suburb schools, I am sure they will play if invited – like Rondebosch and SACS this year.
Also, don’t forget the Gtey PE festival is held at the dame time as Noord Suid.
Now, if you are going to either of these two, it will be tough on the boys to also play in the Easter tournaments up north.
@Buthelezi2 (Comment #423)
Very brave call this early in the season. All five teams have shown some chinks thus far. Affies needs to prove that they can win close games – can’t remember when last they did, and I think Garsies might knock them over this year. Gim has only played one decent side (Rondebosch) and couldn’t beat them. Grey has not looked totally convincing yet (not even against Jeppe). PRG always starts slowly and, like last year, discipline looks to be an issue. Lastly, Paarl Boys: their tight five looked good against Affies (no mean feat!) but I’m not convinced about their loose trio or their backline yet (apart from the 9, who’s dynamite). There’ll be some humdingers yet!
@Buthelezi2 (Comment #424)
They only want to play them up North 😜. But seriously, they do not know the strength of the Southern Suburbs, battle hardened by playing Winelands teams from u14D every year.
The other issue is most teams from the North don’t want to come and play in the South every 2 years (Grey and Affies the exception). But then SS need to go up north every other year, and not only for Easter tournaments …
On a side note – I have a problem with schools that only want to play Top10 teams when they think they have a great team that year. That is why I respect KES and Jeppe, despite of the NS results this year.
@Buthelezi2 (Comment #423)
Is jy n Affie?
On a side note, I seem to recall bloggers last year arguing that the Southern Suburbs schools are too scared to play in big festivals like Noord Suid and that the Noordvaal schools are definitely superior. Any changes in opinion? 4/4 convincing wins later…
Top 5 for the season will be
1. Paarl Boys
2. Affies
3. Paarl Gim
4. Grey Kollege
5. Paul Roos
Don’t ask me how I know
@PietPompies (Comment #421)
Ek hoor jou. Vroer ook hier genoem dat die verdediging my pla vernaam agter.Dis iets wat jy nie meer op die laat staduim kan afrig nie. Jy kan verdediging strukture in plek oefen maar verdediging kom van die spelers se ingesteldheid af. Ek moet se die Bere het soos trojane verdedig teen PRG. Spanne wat dit goed doen is Gim en BH. Ons sal maar moet wag en sien.
@Grizzly (Comment #420)
Dis ‘n opsie – dink net nie sy verdediging is goed genoeg nie. Jy moet plek maak vir Gouws as enigste 75%+ skopper in die span. Pasensie & Kuhn is nie eers 50% skoppers nie. Maar Gouws is nie’n 13 nie, so waar speel jy hom? Net op 10. Dan moet Pasensie 15 speel soos teen Setllenberg – ek mind nie Erasmus op 13 vir verdediging nie, maar dit maak ons nog meer staties op aanval tussen 10,12 & 13. Coaches gaan moet mooi dink wat hulle gameplan wil wees.
@PietPompies (Comment #419)
100%.Grey sal ons ook nie onderskat nie. As jy nie op daag nie kan n wedstryd teen Grey lank raak. Passensie op 12?
@Grizzly (Comment #418)
Ek stem saam. Ek dink Garsies het die forwards om Grey aan te vat. Dis wat Noordheuwel gewys het, jy moet hulle voor aanvat anders is dit nag Nella. So ek stem saam – daar is die halwe kans. Dis agter wat my bekommer. Grey se senters is die verskil… hulle skep soveel spasie vir die agterste 3. Garsies se agterste 3 is net so gevaarlik indien nie meer nie – George was agterspeler van die week op Grant Khomo. Pablo was SA Skole A-span en Baron het as 0/15 speler al Grant Khomo gespeel. Probleem is dat 10,12 & 13 nie vir hulle spasie skep nie. En dan sal Garsfontein foutlose rugby moet speel – want Grey straf enige foute!
@PietPompies (Comment #416)
Ek onthou nog daai “toets” teen Grey by Wildeklawer in 2023.Grey het gebrul in die skrums. Ons sal maar sien wat ons kan doen die jaar teen hulle. Ek kry net die gevoel daars n halwe kans. Grey deel nie kanse uit nie.
@OUD ANKER (Comment #412)Kom ons wag vir Djou se bier dan kan ons verder daar oor praat. Jy weet hoe ek oor vrye keuses voel. Ek het net bedoel so naby tog so ver. Vir my was hy top 3 8’s by NS.
@Grizzly (Comment #399)
Vir my was die 2023 span die beste Garsie span tot hede. Kort-kop voor 2019 se span. Maar dis seker elkeen se persoonlike opinie. Die 2023 span se agterlyn was almal spelbrekers en het drieë van enige plek op die veld gedruk. Hugo, Enslin, Erasmus, Cloete, Prinsloo, Gabrielson, Newman… wat sal ek in 2025 wil gee vir daai agterlyn! En voor was hulle ook nie skaam nie – Lottering, Swart, Cloete, Oosthuizen, Schnetler, Olivier, Brits, vd Westhuyzen. Hulle het enige span voor gematch of gedominate en elke speler in daai agterlyn kon jou individueel flenters hardloop, maar as ‘n unit was hulle gif! Classic game teen Affies op die Plaas in 2023. Garsies loop halftyd 33 vs baie min voor. 2de Helfte maul Affies vir drie-op-drie-op-drie en trek die scores gelyk. Net vir Ruan Enslin om sy 4e drie in die laaste minuut te druk om die game te wen. Watter Gr.11 kan sê hy het 4 drieë in 1 game teen die Wit Bulle gedruk!!
@Bungee (Comment #413)
Of, liewer, hoe moet al die Bolandse hoërskole voel oor almal wat in hulle hoërskole was?😂
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #408)
I think it may have something to do with how widely dispersed all of the South schools are compared to the North schools. So when NS is held at Affies, Affies, Garsies, Menlo, Kloof, EG, KES, Jeppe, Noordheuwel, Monnas and Helpmekaar are all within approximately an hour’s radius.
In the South, it’s only PRG, HJS, Gim, Parel Vallei, Stellenberg, Durbanville, Rondebosch and Landbou that are as close. It’ll probably also become more popular here as it becomes more established as an event.
Plus, the marquee tent was always pretty packed – you just couldn’t see those patrons on the tv 😂
@Grizzly (Comment #403)
Hoe moet al die Bolandse hoerskole voel oor almal wat in hul laerskole was?
@Grizzly (Comment #411)
Ek kan nie met jou saamstem dat Laerskool Garsfontein die Bere se voedingskool is nie. Hoërskool Garsfontein kry ewe veel seuns van laerskole Constantiapark, Elarduspark, Garsfontein, Monumentpark en vele ander en neto verkies laerskool Garsfontein seuns ewe veel om Hoërskool Waterkloof, Menlopark, Affies, Garsfontein en ander te gaan. Om die punt te staaf laat weet ons hoeveel van Laerskool Garsfontein seuns is tans in die Bere 1e en 2e spanne??
@OUD ANKER (Comment #410)
My tjom, wat ek bedoel het is dit is jammer dat 8 Affies so naby maar so ver was om in die Bere se span te wees.Garsies sou doen om daai Yster in die span te he.Dis al wat ek bedoel het.Korrelasie, konneksie selle ding. Dis die Bere se voedings skool.So goed jy se my die selfde van Gim laer.
@Grizzly (Comment #409)
My tjom, ek het geen probleem daarmee dat enige laerskool kind na enige hoërskool van sy keuse gaan nie, maar jy skep die indruk dat hoërskool Garsfontein geregtig is op laerskool Garsfontein se leerlinge en jy gebruik die nommer 8 van Affies as voorbeeld. Ek het ook nooit gesê daars nie ‘n korrelasie tussen die laer-en hoërskool nie, obviously is daar ‘n korrelasie in die naam. As jy mooi gaan lees sal jy sien ek het gesê daars nie ‘n KONNEKSIE tussen die laer-en hoërskool nie, moerse verskil. By the way my seun was ook in Laerskool Garsfontein, maar was daar GEEN rede vir hom om na Hoërskool Garsfontein te gaan nie net soos die jonge heer McDonald (die nommer 8 van Affies) en moet ek byvoeg dat Hoërskool Garsfontein ook nie verwag dat enige van die laerskool leerlinge hulle MOET join nie, maar dit blyk dat jy so dink??
@OUD ANKER (Comment #406)
Dis presies wat ek bedoel.So moet jy ook teleur gestel wees as n leerder van Sunnyside Primary na Garsfontein kom.Hoe bedoel jy daars nie korrelasie nie, dis in die naam.
I stand to be corrected but I think the crowd attendance in Pretoria the last few years was much higher than this year at Paul Roos. Will be interesting if there are any numbers in this regard.
@Grizzly (Comment #405)
Karools, Ali is iemand anders. Konsentreer. Jip, ek is ‘n Pretorianer.
@Grizzly (Comment #403)
Wat bedoel jy met jou stelling dat dit jammer is dat Affies se no.8 in Laerskool Garsfontein was? Insinueer jy dus dat hy verkieslik Hoërskool Garsfontein toe moes gaan? Behalwe dat die laerskool en hoërskool in dieselfde woonbuurt is daar geen konneksie tussen die laer-en hoërskool Garsfontein nie…
@Pypkan (Comment #401)
Bly jy nog in Pta? Gaan ons interskole kyk een jaar? Kaartjies is op die huis… Al wat jy moet doen is om te se BH gaan wen dan sal BHP vir ons organice….
@Pypkan (Comment #401)
Wie het tuisveld die jaar,dit wissel mos elke jaar
@Smallies (Comment #400)
Ja, een van die beste 8’s wat ek nog op skole vlak gesien het, het ons 8 uit die skole span gehou daai jaar. Hyt darem later gekry na besering.Vir my sad is Affies se 8 wat in Garsfontein laerskool was. Ek rate hom ook hoog maar Gim se 8 is vir my n mix van Skinstad en Vermeulen.
@Pypkan (Comment #401)
Thanks Ali!
@Grizzly (Comment #397)
Interskole word op ‘n neutrale veld gespeel. Faure stadion in die Paarl.
@Grizzly (Comment #399)
2023 Garsfontein was ook nie shabby nie
@Smallies (Comment #398)
Moet asb net nie vir PRG wen nie. Ons sal nooit die einde by JM hoor nie. Belowe jou meer as die helfte gaan beseer wees voor daai game.. Die Bere se beste kans vir Grey is die jaar imo. Julle het n baie Jong span. Daar moet n paar manne terug wees teen daai tyd vir die Bere en wie weet…. Ons beste span was ’19 toe julle imo een van die beste skole spanne gehad het wat ek nog gesien het.
@Grizzly (Comment #397)
Affies Gim PRG…
@Smallies (Comment #396)
Dit gaan Baie help. Bloem se Refs wag vir hulle.Helgard se vrou sal ook daar wees. 🤣🤣Wie speel julle tuis van die groot 4?Weet jy waars interskole die jaar, by Gim of BH?
@Grizzly (Comment #395)
Gelukkig is drie van daai rillers in Bloem,dit help darrem n bietjie
@Smallies (Comment #394)
Ja dis n goeie span maar die standard wat hulle vir hulself stel is amper onreverdig. Na NS lyk my top 5 so.
1.Paarl Gim
2.Paul Roos
3.HJS
4.Grey
5.Affies.
@Grizzly (Comment #393)
Daar is nie een game waaroor ek gemaklik voel nie ,hulle het letterlik nie een maklike game nie ….ek sal baie tevrede wees met top 3.
@Smallies (Comment #389)
Ja ek moet se hyt my ook beindruk. Om eerlik te wees as ek n 23 tal moet kies sal dit my n week vat.. Ek sal al die games ten minste 3 keer wil oor kyk. Waar sien jy Grey eindig die jaar. Hulle speel die Bere nou op Wildeklawer dan le al hulle groot derbys voor?
@wanza_15 (Comment #390)
Ag Boet, dont worry about JongMatie. He only have one eye.
@Grizzly (Comment #388)
Ek moet sê, ek sien ook Muller se toekoms liewer op 12 as 13. Die pad is in elk geval baie oper as ‘n 12 tans. Daar is darem klomp baie goeie jong 13s tans: Jurenzo, Henco en selfs Hooker wat ook daar kan speel. Plus Hartzenberg en Moodie.
@OomPB (Comment #386)
I like him too, but JongMatie disciplined me for it
@Grizzly (Comment #388)
Ek kyk seker met Blou brille aan ,maar Tyropolis van Grey het my nogals beindruk ,die laaity het n engine aan hom wat my aan Stopforth van twee jaar terug laat dink,nie te sleg vir iemand wat eintlik n waterpolo speler is nie .As ek coach Jannie was het ek hom baie ernstig op 7 oorweeg as AJ Meyer eers terug is….
Stem met die meeste span keuses behalwe 10 Stellenberg wat my span sal haal Bo PRG 10 na gister se games. Gim 8 Bo al die talentvolle 8’s.Vir my was die 15’s nie so goed soos gewoonlik nie. Noord het gesukkel in die wind, vernaam middag games. Span vd toernooi, Gim en Menlo. Voorspeler 8 Gim. Back 13 Gim. Die skeidsregters was uitstekend. Ek het vroer n negatiewe opmerking gemaak oor een wat ongevraagd was. Net n side note… As al die sterre mooi op line kan Jurenso en Muller vir die Bokke eendag op draf. Imagine that!!! Lank leef Noord/Suid en dankie aan die seuns!
@Snelvuur (Comment #378)
Oor die algemeen het die 10’e van die Noorde my meer beindruk as die van die Suide. Ek ken net nie die ouens se name so goed om te kan se wie is wie nie😂
Dink die 10 posisie oor die algemeen die jaar is nie so sterk soos laas jaar nie, wat die seleksie prentjie op alle vlakke interessant maak
Monnas se losskakel verdien ook melding. Classy speler. Kemp is n yster.
@beet (Comment #381)
Just on the Neill selection: I only picked players in the position that they played (i.e., I could not move Neill to lock to get him in the side). He’ll definitely play SA Schools this year and I’m a really big fan. But did he score a chip and chase try? 😂 Van Zyl did, and that cracked the nod!
TOP 5 PLAYERS FROM NOORD-SUID
1. Markus Muller – I look at him and I see a Springbok in waiting. Enough said.
2. Proppies vd Berg – immense against PRG, especially.
3. Jovan Burden – how is this kid grade 11? Test match animal.
4. Jayden Britz – at times Landbou’s one-man band.
5. Jordan Steenkamp – 9 tries so far for PRG this season. Must be in the conversation as the best finisher in schoolboy rugby this year.
@beet (Comment #381)
Ja, it’s so difficult with so many top players. Pieters was excellent at lock, as was Turner for Gim. Neill is always outstanding and Wesi as well. At 8 you also have Potgieter from Gim and Kemp from PRG. At 9 you have De Villiers from HJS and Kuhn from Garsies. At 10 there’s Groenewald from Affies and Vd Merwe from HJS. At 12 there’s also Barker from Gim, who was excellent at creating space for Muller. At 15, there are too many options to list! Really blessed with such a talent rich schools system! It’s also quite tough to assess how well players play given that teams do not face the same opposition over the week.
@Snelvuur (Comment #378)
And the Gim 12 Ethan Barker had a good festival but then again so did just about all his teammates including the tighthead Adriaan vd Lingen
@Snelvuur (Comment #378)
Great team.
The Affies 6 Lohan Potgieter was good last night and I am a fan of the Oakdale 6 Jannes Snyman. I might move Burden to 5 and pick Gershom Pieters at 4 or make a place for Josh Neill there as he was great in making metres around the park and a useful lineout go to even though he was at 7. This teammate Alutha Wesi was also great.
@JongMatie (Comment #379)
Wie sou jy van PRG nog in hê bo die spelers wat daar is? Enigste ander moontlike aanspraakmakers wat ek aan kan dink is Smith op 12, Basson op 14 of Stoffels op 15, maar ek dink die ouens wat tans daar is het genoeg gedoen. Kemp op 8 was goed vanaand, maar nie so goed in die eerste wedstryd nie. Kent op 7 is deurentyd goed, maar Van Zyl was belaglik goed vir Gim.
@Snelvuur (Comment #378)
Only 2 PRG players??
SNELVUUR TEAM OF THE TOURNAMENT
2. Whitehead (Gim)
3. Vd Berg (Garsies)
4. Burden (Stellenberg)
5. Augustyn (Oakdale)
6. Ramsauer (Drostdy)
7. Van Zyl (Gim)
8. McDonald (Affies)
9. Britz (Landbou)
10. Pheiffer (PRG)
11. Steenkamp (PRG)
12. Stumke (Menlo)
13. Muller (Gim)
14. Ocks (Landbou)
15. Mgedezi (Grey)
*Note: where there was not a clear standout player for me (6 and 12), I picked two grade 11s that I think had great showings in smaller teams. I think both of them played really well – especially Ramsauer who kept Drostdy in the game at times with his steals on the ground.
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #373)
Hoop net hul lywe hou, het groot ambisie met hul seisoenbepalings gewys. Speel die top 5 skole in die land in n kwessie van 5/6 weke, met Jeppe ook nog tussenin. Dan begin die NV eers… (met KES ook ingedruk).
Verlede jaar het vir my gevoel hul het so 2 of 3 wedstryde te vroeg gepiek. Hoop hul bestuur die groep mooi, hul het sover gewys hul het die span om een van die gunstelinge vir NV te wees.
@Grizzly (Comment #364)
Enige skoolseun se droom om na n Wynland instansie te gaan, hetsy dit nou PRG, PG of HJS is.
Redelik een rigting verkeer todat omtrent die hele Bituas span op die veld was.
PRG het goed begin, en Noordheuwel het goed geeindig.
Geluk PRG!
Met paar seuns van Noordheuwel op die paviljoen gesels – kudos vir ouers en afrigters van Noordheuwel. Oulike seuns, gesonde selfvetroue, goeie rugby gespeel.
@Snelvuur (Comment #334)
Congrats PRG!
Noordheuwel gaan groot faktor wees in Noordvaal .
@OudAffie (Comment #255)
You are correct – It was the last KES game I watched before moving down under – and KES I think were 16-0 at half time when game was called off and at the risk of sounding biased – Affies didn’t look like coming back !! Amazingly all KES “wins” against Affies have come at the Plaas – closest KES came to beating Affies at KES was in 2012 when Malcolm Marx, Pierre Schoeman and RG Snyman squared off! Two great teams – think the result was a two point win for Affies!
@Grasshopper (Comment #273)
KES have played College, DHS, Hilton, Westville and Northwood plenty times Hopper, long enough and over enough different era’s to identify a pattern. It’s only Michaelhouse, Glenwood and Kearsney they’ve hardly ever played – 7, 6 and 4 times respectively. Believe what you want but the stats don’t back up your assertion.
@Grizzly (Comment #364)
Geluk Bere!!
Jeppe showed a lot of good attacking skills. Pity about the lineout D, mistiming sacks … But Grey is Grey. That fullback is special. Great skills alround.
Oakdale is unstoppable.
Stellenberg wys dat die big dogs gewen kan word.
Jeppe bly ‘n favorite.
Go Noordheuwel!
Hierdie Jeppe span is ʼn classy outfit….nr 13 is een glibberige customer….
@agter_die_pale_pa (Comment #333)
Dankie! Jy is reg early days … dink ons gaan kompeterend wees en as ons die close games kan deur trek gaan dit goed wees.
@Grizzly (Comment #364)
Ons kommer nie oor die Wynland scouts nie, eerder oor die verder Noord. Maar nie met die span nie.
Baie geluk Bere. Well done ook Stellenberg. Nie die Bere se beste nie. Miskien te wagte. Na die hoogte van Sat begin die week lank word. Dan die toestande glad nie gewoon nie. Stellies met 10 gr 11,6 voor gaan volgende seisoen amok maak. Dit is as die Wynland scouts nie toe sak nie.
Geluk Garsfontein. Jammer Stellies manne, groot hart gewys.
Sjoe the Oakdale vs Helpmekaar try just before halftime is set to be one of my favourites of the season. Awesome team try. The passing, the accuracy, the patience, the decision-making and the teamwork were top drawer stuff. Playing into that wind today is not easy either.
@wanza_15 (Comment #357)
Good first half Jeppe…do u think fitness and conditioning a big factor?
@Snelvuur (Comment #354)
Oh is that the case?…their 2nds are also playing? …+ the XV…OK that is a LOT of depth, wow and those guys are performing pretty well. I’m seeing Gim and PRG through different eyes. Already respected them…just more now.
@Smallies (Comment #348)
Love that.
What a gent!
Plus it helps that she requested of course.
@wanza_15 (Comment #357)
I don’t think you are going to see that many in next years side. Given that the 1st team is heavy on Grade 11’s this year, the 2nd XV is very heavy on matric kids. Its the reason that the 2nd XV is so strong this year – its effectively a decent matric group playing against the other schools grade 11’s.
The team to look out for is the u14 age group, as we don’t have a traditional feeder school the u14 age group usually struggles and gets stronger through the years until matric. This years group seem to be putting a lot of teams away already!
CHERRIES 39-12 JEPPE 2NDS
Given the 9 x grade 11s in first team, next year we should really be cooking up a storm.
Next, Grey College 1st XV at 18:00!
RE-MATCHES
Paarl Gim vs Grey College
Boland Landbou vs Monument
Durbanville vs Affies
Rondebosch vs Garsfontein
Any I’ve missed?
@Snelvuur (Comment #353)
Correct – we are currently captain(less)
@Kaya 85 (Comment #352)
Gim’s second team (as PRG’s second team) are also at Noord-Suid. So if we assume that there are about 40 guys at NS between the two sides, the XV team would be 40-60 – probably equivalent to a third-and-a-half side. PRG’s team was also called the PRG XV, for what it’s worth.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #350)
Yep, I agree with your analysis. One thing I will add, however, is that one should not only look at the number of injuries, but also who the personnel are. E.g., it would be much worse for Gim if Markus Muller is injured than if two of their loose forwards are injured. I don’t think the players injured for PRG at the moment are quite at that level, but some of them are quite vital cogs to the Maroon Machine: most notably Rabe at hooker (also the captain and played CW last year), Schoeman at lock (played CW last year) and Da Silva (the first choice 9 – we saw last year with Boraine how much of PRG’s tempo comes from the 9). But yes, a school like PRG is much better placed to mitigate the effects of injuries as the drop-off to the back-up players isn’t as big (e.g., PRG’s third team flyhalf played Grant Khomo for WP two years ago).
@Snelvuur (Comment #349)
Note that Gim by their own admission are calling that team Paarl Gim XV (NOT 3rds)…they might have 23 – 25 players in their 1st squad at Noord Suid, and the next 23 – 25 in the XV. So not exactly a 3rd team but next best squad. A different approach to the weekly Saturday fixtures where 15 are selected per team, and the 2nds are reserves for firsts.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #350)
I am glad you that you notice, accept and take note of the injury crisis factor.
Side note: We have more hockey teams than rugby teams.
Thank you.
@JongMatie (Comment #344)
6 / 15 = 40% of the team
6 / 23 = 26% of the squad
So a significant number, either way.
Although I would suggest that it’s a bigger handicap for a smaller school, e.g. Bethlehem Voortrekker, or even Oakdale…and less of a handicap for a large (“Macro”) school, even less for a large Boys’ school(+/-1000), and I would suggest it’s even less of a handicap for a school steeped in rugby lore and culture and with 20+ teams like the Paul Roos Gimnasium with the ghosts of Oubaas Markotter and Danie Craven and the famous rugby nursery of Maties your near neighbor.
Slightly related to Kaya’s comment below, it’s been quite fascinating to me in these last few days to look at some of the smaller schools’ first teams playing against big schools’ third teams. The gap is really becoming wider and wider. Parel Vallei, who gave SACS a great run for their money, beat Gim’s third team by one point, while Worcester Gimnasium lost by 20-odd to PRG’s third team. PRG’s third team also beat Brackenfell’s second team by nearly 70 on Saturday. Will the gap just keep increasing? I cannot see it closing soon.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #347)
I have no Idea mate ,I basically stopped watching all rugby at the request of my wife ,it turns out not loosing your shit over a rugby game every week is very beneficial for one’s marriage 😅😅😅….had a quick look at the results ,turns out the Cherries are unbeaten at the moment
@Smallies
How are the Cherries doing so far this year…it’s funny how much I’m looking forward to a 2nd team game…Cherries v Jeppe II.
@Smallies (Comment #345)
Ek gaan hom nie verder antwoord nie. Soos n ander blogger tereg op gemerk JM is nie PRG nie. Hy kom nou al 3 jaar met sy beserings nonsens.Dis tiepies van n lafaard om n agter deur oop te los sou PRG verloor hy dit as verskoning kan gebruik.
@JongMatie (Comment #344)
Maak nie saak nie, jy wen of verloor met die span op die veld finish en klaar,hou op kraampyne kry oor julle beserings en back die span op die veld want dis PRG en dis hoe jy veronderstel is om op te tree…..wat se boodskap stuur jy uit na daai outjies wat moet instaan vir die beseerdes…nee man
@Smallies (Comment #343)
Kan jy tel? 6 manne is amper die helfte van die span
@JongMatie (Comment #342)
Maar as jy so kak en kerm oor beserings dan se dit wat oor PRG se diepte….
@Grizzly (Comment #340)
Ons speel eintlik net teen Makro Rugby skole.
Jy moet oplet in die klas – ons is nog nie naastenby volsterkte, en n blinde hoender (Bere) pik ook so nou en dan raak met n bo gem eerste span – praat nie eers van die res van jul spanne of diepte nie…want daar is nie!
@Smallies (Comment #339)
Die regte OB van Paul Roos is nederig en hoef nie vir almal te vertel hoe goed hulle is nie. Ek reply nie meer vir JM nie, hy troll net. Ek kon egter myself nie nou gehelp het nje🤣🤣
@JongMatie (Comment #338)
Dis met daai Bok in Jul span toe die Bere julle laas gewen het. Of het jy vergeet? Amper, nader as stamper het dit weer gebeur, sommer daar tuis tussen die hele Paul Roos. Nou moet julle bietjie Bere Park toe kom dan sien ons hoe vaar julle by ons….
@JongMatie (Comment #338)
So dan het jule mos geen verskoning nie ,dis darrem swak as jy geen vertroue in die plaasvervangers het nie ,as hy die eerstespan trui dra MOET hy dieselfde ondersteuning kry as die eerste keuse speler….
@Smallies (Comment #337)
Lankal, amper bok, niks minder verwag, siende dat ons die meeste bokke nog ooit opgelewer het.
@JongMatie (Comment #336)
Is Jorenzo al reg?
Paul Roos sou vandag met 20 punte wen as ons nie beserings gehad het nie.
4 tot 6 manne moet nog terugkeer, waarvan 4 in die enjinkamer is.
@Smallies (Comment #260)
Dis hoekom ek die Grey/Affies interskole so laaik, al die sporte wat jy noem + dan die bokdrol spoeg en draadkar resies!
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #332)
Ek dink mens moet nie onderskat hoe groot teleurstelling dit kan wees om soveel effort in te sit, so naby te kom aan die grootste wen in jou skool se geskiedenis, maar net-net dit nie te maak nie. Ek dink die sielkundige effek daarvan is partykeer iets wat onderskat word.
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #329)
Menlo se program verdien n pluimpie. Hierdie NS was broodnodig vir hul selfvertroue na 2 baie taai jare op en van die veld af. Die seisoen is nog lank maar dit lyk baie beter. 2des wat ook goed lyk sal help met diepte deur die lang seisoen. Voorspoed vir die NWU finaal en Noordvaal
@Snelvuur (Comment #331)
Ek glo nie die verloor was so groot teleurstelling vir Noordheuwel nie, aangesien hulle vertoning so goed soos ‘n wen was.
Ek dink as hulle goed kan begin vandag gaan hulle in die game bly en wie weet …
Vir my is die groot vraag vandag nie of Noordheuwel goed genoeg is om saam met die groothonde te blaf nie – hulle het klaar bewys dat hulle is – maar of hulle so ‘n groot effort en (op die ou end) teleurstelling twee dae later kan opvolg met nog so ‘n groot vertoning. As hulle weer kan opdaag, kan hulle vir PRG ‘n opdraandestryd gee. Framesby teen Diamantveld behoort ook ‘n goeie wedstryd te wees, maar daarna verwag ek dat die Suide sal oorheers, buiten Garsies wat vir die Cape Gate Crusaders behoort te stamp.
@BoishaaiPa (Comment #318)
Ek gee twee vir Noord en een vir Suid.
Ons het ook reeds penne getrek en Suide toe beweeg, maar werk nog in Gauteng. Oakdale is my nuwe aanneem span (naas Menlo natuurlik) en hoop om hulle later die maand in Riversdal te gaan kyk.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #276)
@Grizzly (Comment #283)
Thank you! … next Waterkloof in NWU final. Kloof looked good against Boland Landbou.
Nog n dag, nog n skole rugby dag!
Vandag sal ons sien van watter stoffasie Noorheuwel rugby gemaak is!
@Grizzly (Comment #326)
Stem saam…
@Smallies (Comment #325)
Steve is n Yster. Nie almal op die web is afhanklik van inkomste van een kategorie verbruiker nie.Ek sal een dag verduidelik in persoon. Die ding is jy moet mooi lees as mense post.Jy kan hulle believes ens op tel sonder dat hulle dit pront uit se. My post nou hier is n goeie vb.
@tzavosky (Comment #320)
Steve is maar nie almal se koppie tee nie ,maar ek dink nie enige iemand sal sy bydrae tot Afrikaanse musiek kan weg wens nie dit is enorm….like hom of nie, dis hoe dit is 😂😂
@JongMatie (Comment #323)
After Grey are done with me I will be probably need it, 19h30 tomorrow it is then
Yikes, okay will do
@wanza_15 (Comment #322)
Swagger dont win rugby games.
Come and watch a proper 10 in the form of the Paul Roos fly half. Class written all over him.
I do say I really like the Monnas 10. Has a nice swagger/aura to him.
@Smallies (Comment #301)
Welkom terug!
Terwyl jy nou daai kultuur ikoon van julle so ophemel, as ek aan hom dink (en dis selde), dan herinner ek myself altyd aan daai toneel destyds in Agter Elke Man, waar antie Stienie so oor die tuinhekkie hang, hare in krullers en sigaretjie in die hand, en sê, “Daai Bruce Beyers is nie ons klas mens nie, hy’s kommin”!
Baie geluk aan my Alma Mater.
Die Boishaai span het karakter gewys en was skitterend op verdediging.
Ek glo die vertoning sal baie selfvertroue kweek vir die res van die seisoen.
Dankbaar dat daar aan beide kante geen ernstige beserings was nie.
Vertoonvenster vir Makro skolerugby in SA.
Dink beste 2 games more gaan Oakdale vs Helpies wees en PR vs Noordheuwel. Garsie vs Stellies ook in die mix maar dink Garsies net te veel skietgoed voor vir Stellies.
@Grasshopper (Comment #314)
How’s NH and Garsies miles behind? Bosch and Stellies a lot closer than one mile. From what I’ve seen Boland will hold their own as well as Oakdale.Then look out for Menlo next year.No team is unbeateble.
@Grasshopper (Comment #314)
I am not so sure. Noordheuwel and Garsies where very close to Grey and PR…granted..PR still not at full strength..but those 2 Northern teams can hold there heads high. They were in the mix for 70 minutes against Grey and PR. BH have to play Nories at Wildeklawer and I have no doubt they (Nories) are targeting that match as a big scalp…some very interesting games coming up. I dont see an unbeaten team this year.
Grey College vs Garsfontein sou n riller wees. Arme Jeppe.
@BoishaaiPa (Comment #309)
Interschools is still months away and a lot can happen, injuries, form etc….SA Schools selections. But as usual it’s the 3Ps (Paarl Gim, Paarl Boys, Paul Roos), Affies and Grey Bloem up for No1…the rest are miles behind.
Toets rugby.Baie geluk BH. Ek voel net Affies het hierdie een laat weg kom. Ek weet jy speel so goed soos jy toe gelaat word maar Affies het verkeerde besluite geneem.BH groot hart gewys in verdediging. Teen Gim gaan dit nie saak maak nie, te veel talent en spelbrekers. Voor en agter. Ek hou by my Gim voorspelling.
Baie geluk Boishaai vanaand het die beter span gewen…interresante beslissing om met 4 minute oor 55m by kus pale toe te gaan…dink lynskop en rolmaal sou dalk kon deug.
Boishaai was heel duidelik meer honger na laasjaar se verloor. Dink dit sal maar selfde ou storie as elke jaar wees, al die Suide in Top 4 en Grey, hang af van volgorde en dan gooi maar Garsies in op Top5
@BoishaaiPa (Comment #309)
Dink dit is omrede hierdie twee spanne so goed vertoon het by die toernooi, maar ja nog n paar harde wedstryde wat intussen op beide wag. Ons as rugby-liefhebbers is bederf
HJS are Titanium!!
Liam de Villiers is the only scrummie I’ve seen to win a lineout ball so well.
Those Joubert boys are solid, Jooste at prop and his buddies, that’s one heckofa tough and robust team. Most of the time they handled Macdonald who is a handful, plus they had more X factor than Affies. It’s going to take a special team to knock HJS over.
Julle praat al klaar van Interskole…Boishaai het nog Grey, Paul Roos, RBosch en paar baie goeie ander spanne voor dit. Goeie wen vanaand, maar kyk maar een game vorentoe op n slag.
@agter_die_pale_pa (Comment #305)
Great game, Bois High vs Gimmies going to be massive this year💪💪💪💪
@agter_die_pale_pa (Comment #305)
Very very physical. Good to watch.
Conditions were tricky at night on the Markotter but both teams did ever so well under the circumstances. It was a nailbiter.
@Smallies (Comment #301)
Boishaai gaan hulle eet.
Brilliant and very physical game between Affies and Boishaai. Going to be some sore bodies tomorrow on both sides. I think Boishaai showed that they will match Paarl Gim’s flair with brutal and unrelenting defence come August.
Boishaai se verdediging is uit die boeke
These Affies and Boishaai okes are making some big big hits, going down to the wire.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #265)
You are not Nostradamus. Be predicted much more wrong than right.
You are Kaya – I heard tell Nostradamus wants to come back reincarnated and learn from you.😃😃😃
@Snelvuur (Comment #300)
Gim het n paar hoe hekkies wat nog in hulle pad staan en die hoogste daarvan is Boishaai….
@Grizzly (Comment #297)
Ek dink dis bietjie vroeg om so ‘n voorspelling te maak. Gim het goed gelyk teen KES (het hulle al ‘n game gewen?) en Monnas (wat teen die derdebeste rugbyspan in die Noordelike Voorstede verloor het), maar dit was so hittete of hulle het teen Rondebosch verloor. As daardie game 5min langer was, het Rondebosch hom gevat.
@Wonder (Comment #298)
Eenoog is ook koning in die land van die blindes…
@Smallies (Comment #288)
Welkom terug, ek hou van jou sin vir humor. Steve is koning!!!
Niemand gaan die jaar vir Gim wen nie, niemand. Die 2 spanne hier na gaan die naaste kom. Vroegste wat ek nog interskole kon voorspel. Geluk Gim, skills levels unmatched.
GIM VS MONNAS
Goeie skare
@Bungee (Comment #290)
Hom so jaar terug unplaged gaan kyk. Classic.
@Smallies (Comment #292)
Darem nou een van die bench
@OomPB (Comment #291)
How dare they…
Gim het nie een PoC nie?
@Grizzly (Comment #287)
My persoonlike gunsteling is Koos Kombuis
@Grizzly (Comment #287)
Het ook daai berig gelees ,kaapnarre like nie hulle papsak deel nie….
@Kaya 85 (Comment #282)
Our Cape friends dont get out much,they also believe the tunnel is the entrance to Mordor….
Cultural experiences for them are limited to drinking papsak next to any Cape rugby pitch,drinking papsak next to any fire made with papsak vinyard clippings,drinking papsak wilst eating their replica of biltong,drinking papsak wilst having adult dreams about their flat top molehill, drinking papsak wile waiting for the papsak store to open ,drinking papsak standing guard at the entrance to mordor and last but not least drinking papsak wile listening to David Kramer …
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #272)
Well done!Trots op Menlo! @Smallies (Comment #284)
Steve is n Yster! Boerseun. Beste ding uit Skelmbos was Theuns Jordan toe hy daar geswwot het. Sien die mense van Gauteng kom terug. Se dis te duur daar, verkeer en natuurlik die weer. Dit gaan die Kaap se skole rugby baie nadelig beinvloed. 🤣🤣
@Roger (Comment #248)
Yes, much better performance by KES. Was in it half time but silly mistakes in the second half cost them. For me KES nr7 played like someone posesed. Congrats to SACS on the win.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #282)
Daars is darem Anton Goosen ook, maar hy het Gansbaaier geword…so terloops..my dogter se verloofde is oud Affie…so vanaand se rugby om die vuur gaan redelik gespanne wees..hy mag nie cheer as Affies score nie!.
@Snelvuur (Comment #281)
Die Kruger is seker OK as jy nie beter gewoond is nie ….
Ok grappies op n stokkie Steve is soos baie sogenaamde rugby skole veel meer as die som totaal van sy liedjies .
Gepunliseerde digter,skrywer,dramaturg,akteur in TV Film en Verhoog,sekerlik een van die beste liedjie skrywers in Afrikaans in SA op die oomblik en dan natuurlik ook STOETBUL VAN FORMAAT….
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #272)
Well done!Trots op Menlo!
@Snelvuur (Comment #281)
Ouch, what a burn…only Koos Doep and the Kruger ?
@Smallies (Comment #280)
Ek weet nou nie heeltemal of ek ou Steve as ‘n ikoon van kultuur sou bestempel nie. Daar is darem bitter baie Afrikaanse digters en sangers wat veel beter skryf en veel meer kultureel bygedra het – beide tot die land en tot die Afrikaanse kultuur. Gewildheid en kulturele betekenisvolheid moet nooit verwar word nie: anders beteken beide Kurt Darren en Karlien van Jaarsveld meer vir die Afrikaanse kultuur as Koos Dup (terloops, Koos Dup is een van die drie goeie goed aan die Noorde van die tonnel: die ander twee is die Kruger en die ingang om weer terug deur die tonnel te kom!)
@JongMatie (Comment #274)
Die kaap was nog nooit eintlik bekend as plek wat kultuur ken en verstaan nie,ken net van wyn suip en snoek vreet….Noord van die tonnel bestaan daar n wereld totaal anders as die kaap…
Suid van Hugenote tonnel is min lugbesoedeling, Noord is net DIE KLEUR, GREY, en verder rook die outjies aktief en ander passief. Dit moet die vuil lug en baie misdaad wees.
@OUD ANKER (Comment #101)
School rugby will always be school rugby at 97% of schools, ridiculous the amounts parents must spend on these tours. Especially for those who can’t really compete,97% of the matches
@Wondermaar (Comment #275)
Ek wonder dieselfde
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #272)
well done Menlopark!
Building very nicely…
Talking of good schools, this is a top top school, love to see you guys doing well.
Die toernooi, is nou weer te groot met teveel deelnemende skole, begin van die einde.
@Smallies (Comment #271)
Sy impak is so groot dat hy n vertoning moes kanselleer agv n te kort aan kykers getalle….(in die Kaap)
@Roger (Comment #248)
That the problem, KES don’t play KZN schools very much. If KES had played Glenwood from 2000 t0 2020 they would have lost 80% of the time. Hilton called off fixtures vs Glenwood after a 7-67 loss and claimed we were ‘too professional’ and boys could get injured, they then used the time to build their own professional team, then switch the fixtures back on. Honestly now I do believe overall Westville, Northwood, Glenwood, DHS and College are stronger than KES, Jeppe, PBHS, St Stithians, St Johns and Parktown. 1978 is a relatively ‘new’ fixture…
Well done MenloBoys!! 4/4 @ NoordSuid 2025!!!
Menlo afrigters moet baie krediet kry … daar is ‘n goeie gameplan en ‘n rustigheid wat ek dink baie vertroue bring.
Menlo … ons hou julle dop!!
@Rainier (Comment #270)
Kan nie van daardie kultuur ikoon vergeet nie,like hom of haat hom maar die inpak wat hy op afrikaanse musiek gehad/steeds het is massief…Afrikaanse musiek se eerste regte superster .
@Smallies (Comment #268)
En vir Steve Hofmeyr.
@chief (Comment #266)
Alles hang af van die kind se talente en persoonlikheid, en watter kultuur die gesin sal pas. Dit is wel so dat skole wat goed presteer in rugby, meestal (daar is uitsonderings) goed presteer in verskeie velde, want dit is die omgewing wat daardie leierskap skep. Maar om jou kind wat n passie vir kultuur of akademie het in n skool te sit waar die enkele fokus is om n sterk rugbyprogram te he, is nie in die kind se beste belang nie.
Rugby alleen kan nooit die maatstaf van n “goeie” skool wees nie.
@chief (Comment #266)
Ek verstaan wat jy se ,my punt is net dat n skool baie meer as net sy rugby program is ,selfs Grey waar rugby koning kraai….het twee nationale helde opgelewer wat nie rugby spelers is nie maar n swemmer en n atleet….
Enige score updates vir ons arme siele wat by die werk moet sit?
@Smallies (Comment #260)
Ek moet bietjie verskil met jou. Rugby is en gaan ongelukkig vir baie jare die maatstaf van krag wees in laerskole en hoërskole. Ja atletiek, netbal en hokkie speel sy rol ook maar dit bly ‘n groot faktor vir baie ouers.
@Djou (Comment #262)
I’m flattered, I know some people mention Kaya in the same sentence as Nostradamus based on my rugby predictions…but last week’s smackdowns not in the visions..
@wanza_15 (Comment #230)
Monnas is going through a difficult period for a few years now.
Remember, in the past they had np competition when recruiting in Krugersdorp, Rustenburg and even the East Rand. However, Noordheuwel decided to improve their rugby, while Rustenburg moved up into the Noordvaal Cup division. So, lots more competition for the same boys and the biggest bidder wins. This caused another challenge – a shortage of top players in every school. Say e.g. each one gets 8 of the 24 top players, it leaves a shortage of 7. (In the past Monnas had all 24). So, they go to the Western and Eastern Cape and the East Rand to find the other players. (Nooordheuwel won that race comfortably). The result is that EG Jansen and Helpmekaar got fewer top players from tjeir traditional hunting grounds. Helpmekaar is lucky as they have a relatively big hostel, lots of trust money and also moved south, recruiting from Vanderbijl and Vereeniging, and the rest of the East Rand – last time I heard they also have 18 busses.
But, I also learned, some teams start slow and finish strong, and on the day, many things can happen. So, never write any team off early in a season.
@theblackandwhite (Comment #261)
Yea personally I’m very glad I’m a gen X kid…not giving a f@ck about social media perception of you really is a blessing…
@Kantman (Comment #227)
Goeie fliek om jou op datum te kry en te verhoed om volgende keer dom voor te kom is The Big Short.
Bottom line: They actually looked.
Gaan na Check E Log – jy sal al Noordvaal se juniors, 3e, 2e en 1ste span uitslae daar kry.
So, gaan kyk en wees ingelig.
Dan is Nostradamus nie nodig nie, jy sal dit sommer self kan uitpluis.
En jy sou bv sien dat Noordheuwel vir ‘n paar jaar goeie spanne gaan hê.
@Smallies (Comment #260)
I couldn’t agree more.
It is tough for these young kids today – not only do they have relentless social media to endure. Now at school sport level, they have these rankings out every week, and I have seen first hand how these kids watch out for these rankings.
Living life through a glass lens must be tough on these kids, and for the teachers that deal with these kids at school every day.
@theblackandwhite (Comment #259)
I speak under correction as its been a while since my son left Grey but the soprts they cater for is
Rugby
Tennis
Cicket
Hockey
Water polo
Swimming
Athletics
Wrestling
Table tennis
Gholf
Squash
Soccer
Mountain biking
Chess also, however I dont know if it qualify as a sport…
A school is in any case much more than the strength of its rugby program
@Meesh N (Comment #258)
I did notice that, I am not sure if perhaps basketball is not
offered at Rondebosch but I agree that they would probably be best overall sporting school. Both Paul Roos and Grey College would probably be in that argument too, but they also don’t seem to have any basketball rankings. Perhaps basketball has not grown outside of Gauteng and KZN where it seems to be a very big school sport.
I think that considering the different tours and tournaments, the hockey and waterpolo rankings are probably closest in being the most accurate. Those are the only two sports where the majority of the schools actually compete against everyone, everything else in my opinion is just a guess.
@theblackandwhite (Comment #257)
A pretty noticable omission regarding schools consistantly being ranked in the top 25 for all sports, is Rondebosch not considered the best overall sporting school? seeing how highly ranked they are, at all age groups & considering their competitive fixture list (besides basketball).
@Kaya 85 (Comment #239)
I personally think that the rankings are largely a thumb suck anyway – Affies, Grey and the big 3 WC schools are by far the top 5 rugby schools in this country. Other than that, it is largely dependent on the year – and even then it is very subjective.
When it comes to “hype” of the the Johannesburg schools, I could say that of a lot of schools. I personally feel that the two KZN Midlands schools are way over hyped, considering their fixture list – I can’t see how they can realistically see themselves as top 15 schools.
I also don’t think that Jeppe (neither KES) believe that they are top 10 rugby schools anyway, Jeppe is going to have the odd year like last year and the 2018 team where they might be considered in the top 10, but they are also going to have years like the 2017 team where they are lucky to be in the top 100. Over the long term I suspect that Jeppe would be between 20-25, I suspect that would be a fair reflection of their rugby program. KES would be slightly higher maybe around 15-18, both of which would be fair in my opinion.
What I do know is that the Gauteng schools (Jeppe, KES, Affies and Boys High) all share a desire to be competitive in EVERYTHING, rather than being a one trick pony. A quick look at the rankings website shows that there are now 6 sporting codes that are ranked, both Jeppe and KES (as well as Maritzburg College and Westville) seem to be the only 4 schools that rank consistently in the top 20/25 for ALL sports.
Now that may be over-hyped, but I suspect that is exactly where schools like Jeppe and KES want to be on the sporting side – and would be happy with that. A blow-out that KES experienced last week and possibly a blow-out for Jeppe against Grey tomorrow is not going to change anything. This Jeppe side is a young side, there are 10-11 of them that are going to be back next year and so tomorrow will be tough for them – but I can tell you without hesitation that every Jeppe old boy is going to be proud of these youngsters regardless of tomorrows result.
@beet (Comment #253)
100% correct, been to Noordheuwel of athletics and I have to say the school has done a lot in a short period of time. Also talked to a few Kenmare boys who are surprisingly all going to Noordheuwel. So it’s a good contest in Krugersdorp now not only for rugby but all sports and academics.
@Roger (Comment #248)
Not to get technical, but KES did not beat Affies in 2017. The game was stopped due to Lightning and then called off before halftime. And although KES was leading. Result does not stand if games as called off before half time. KES did beat Affies in 2019 (29-33) and 2021 (10-18). Interestingly both times in Pretoria.
Ongelukkig werk vandag(Thanks Eva!) so sal nou en dan stream wat gebeur met die games.Sien uit na die KES game om te sien of die rooi masjien kan bounce back. Dan vir die grote vanaand, Affies VS Boishaai. Sterkte aan die spelers vandag.
@chief (Comment #250)
I think there are a few other factors as well.
A junior school parent was telling me the other day about the fantastic athletics track at Nories and how much time they spend there – its made the school a focal point and they have other good facilities as well.
Also other sports besides rugby, Monnas have room for improvement – most top schools nowadays are a complete package (including academics).
Helpies are amongst the schools that lure talent from Krugersdorp.
But where there is a will, there is a way. I don’t expect Monnas to keel over. They will go all out to be the best. And they seemingly want to define themselves as a rugby school. Perhaps the appointment of their next headmaster will be key to their future rugby success
@Smallies (Comment #245)
Nee man Smallies, moet nie so wees nie
More om 19:00 is dit oorlog op AF Markotter.
Ek skree natuurlik vir die manne van die Paarl.
@Maroon machine supporter (Comment #241)
A lot of talk has to do with the area of Monnas as well. It seems that Noordheuwel is in a much better area.
@Smallies (Comment #245)
Howzit Smalle. Goed om te sien als is fine aan jou kant.
@Grasshopper (Comment #246)
No Hopper – KES first played Helpmekaar in 1932 and Monnas in 1978. Head to head vs both schools is slightly in KES’s favour.
No KZN school leads KES on the head to head and the last fixtures vs KZN schools were:
College 2024 (win),
Westville 2024 (draw),
Michaelhouse 2011 (win),
Hilton 2011 (win),
Kearsney 2001 (win),
DHS 2014 (win),
Northwood 2018 (win),
Glenwood 2019 (lose).
In fact, so badly did Hilton lose in 2011 that they discontinued annual fixtures vs KES – as did DHS in 2014. When Affies hammered us 92-0 in 2015 and 61-7 in 2016 we persevered and beat them in 2017, 2019 and 2021.
The rumours of our demise are greatly exaggerated. 2025 may turn out to be a poor season – so what if it is? Can only ask that boys give it their best (which they will) and the school come back better and stronger in 2026 (which they will).
In the interim, enjoy the rugger and your alma maters season – don’t worry too much about us.
@Maroon machine supporter (Comment #241)
I had no idea this happened but I must say I was suspicious at how many non-Afrikaans individuals on the field and on the stands I saw when they played Grey. Definitely way more multi cultural than when I was at school. If what you say is true, then I can almost guarantee that this is impacting the situation on the field
@Roger (Comment #237)
Long history? Like since 1980? Not exactly that long. Garsies wasn’t even founded yet. Us boys in KZN & EC were playing decades before. Joburg derbies are very new. I do think the KZN top 4 would now pan the Jozi top4
@Kaya 85 (Comment #242)
A break sometimes is good,not back permanently though…
An underestimated and wounded Monnas against Paarl Gim coming from a 102 pointer could maybe just set the table for a belter of a game.. Maybe not an upset but if Paarl Gim, or any of Monnas’ future opponents, think that it will be a walk in the park they are in for a surprise.
Yes, maybe their rugby is bit off coming from decades of top performing teams, but I wouldn’t at this stage say their program as a whole is on a slippery slope just yet.
@Maroon machine supporter (Comment #241)
Maybe that is where some schools have recruited?
@Smallies (Comment #240)
Hey ou Smallies, You must have been working hard, haven’t seen your Flippen Brakpan Pappie jersey round these parts for ages.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #239)
I have a suspicion that Monnas problems on the rugby field started with their decision to become a dual medium school. Some Afrikaans speaking parents are very patriotic and prefer their children to be in Afrikaans only schools. I believe Noordheuwel and even some Pretoria schools benefitted greatly from the Monnas decision…just my 5c. If there are Monnas old boys on the blog I would like to hear what they think of the theory…
@Kaya 85 (Comment #239)
One also have to take in to account that most northern schools very seldom play down south….
@Roger (Comment #237)
@wanza_15 (Comment #230)
I think that Monument and now KES struggling is a big concern for Lions CW, and certainly is a barometre of the strength of Jhb area rugby. Helpmekaar took a heavy loss v Affies and maybe a surprise loss to Kingswood, Jeppe couldn’t keep up with Rondebosch…with a bigger opponent to come. The KES / Gim game was a mismatch but you can’t blame the organizers because the usual ‘hype’ around KES and Jeppe mean that they are very often considered stronger than they really are. Monument seems to be on a slippery slope, losing their tough reputation too…
@Grasshopper (Comment #236)
Not forgetting that Noordheuwel is also Krugersdorp…
@Kaya 85 (Comment #206)
Ja ou Kaya, when it comes to Monnas and Helpmekaar, you are barking up the wrong tree I’m afraid. KES has a looong history against both schools and the head-to-head record is in favour of KES. I too would like to see KES play Monnas and Helpies more regularly and it’s great that Helpies is back on the fixture list this year for the first time since 2016, but I guess the school gravitates to schools than can provide full rugby and hockey fixtures. Against St Johns two weeks ago, Menlo Park filled the gap and provided 10 odd games. As I said below, KES more than holds their own against any school outside the big 5 and are perennially in the top 20 – rugby wise. In our best years (2009/2011/2012/2017/2023/2024) we may just crack the top ten, but I cannot recall anyone, ever saying KES are top 5 rugby wise and I’m certain it’s not even on the school management radar. KES has a very good rugby program that allows 300 odd boys to compete at the highest level every year. One blow out result is not going to change that – and if the Red army get a bit ahead of themselves in the good times, we always have the annual Affies fixture to bring us back down to earth!
Sjoe, so glad Glenwood are out of the limelight these days, just play good regular locals, WildeKlawer and KERF, with maybe one very difficult game in the mix. Seems KES, Jeppe and DHS are the one now trying to take on the big boys. Let them…..one or two good results, most are spankings. I challenge any KZN side to go to Bloem in July or August and keep the score under 50. I do really think there now needs to be a proper A, B and C league. Even Monnas, who has always been a big dog, seem to be battling. Maybe Krugersdorp is losing people to the Cape too…
@wanza_15 (Comment #234)
@Snelvuur (Comment #232)The thing is a bad season for top 5 is still top 10 for them. Not the same for the rest. Take Menlo and maybe Monnas now as examples.For the rest of us we not immune to a bad season. Another proposal could be to have a mting with the coaches before hand. This will be the organizers best chance for fair match ups as no coaches will overestemate their teams chances.
@Grizzly (Comment #231)
Agreed, due to the KES result, lots of fingers being pointed at the organisers, unfairly in my opinion.. To wait for everyone to play 2 or 3 games is the best way but it is going to be difficult for the organisers to do it like this.
My comment 230 was in response to Kaya’s comment 206 apologies
@Grizzly (Comment #231)
‘n Goeie opsie is ook om te maak soos die Kwaggaweek vir die o14s: die tweede stel bepalings word eers na die eerste rondte wedstryde bepaal. Dit verseker dat daar ‘n beter balans is, ten minste vir die tweede rondte wedstryde, en beloon spanne wat oorpresteer (op verwagtinge) met goeie wedstryde later.
@wanza_15 (Comment #230)Baie bekomerd oor Monnas. Djou is reg in n sin. Dit help nie nou om latte te pluk nie. Wat gedoen kan word is om die deelnemende spanne te kies. Dan te wag met die bepalings so 3 of 4 wedstryde in die nuwe seisoen en dan die match ups te doen.Iets in die lyn. Glo die organiseerdes sal dit sort voor volgende jaar. Niemand het met opset iemand probeer benadeel nie. Kom ons relax en gee die organiseerdes n fair kans.
@Djou (Comment #215)
How competitive was Monnas at home against Grey a few weeks back?
I think there are huge benefits of being a part of a different era and arriving on the scene at different times, your findings (as do mine), will differ a lot from old heads who may be shackled in time. I have been associated with a Jeppe that has not feared Monnas or Helpmekaar. In my experience, what my eyes have shown me and not necessarily what I am “forced” to believe, if Jeppe and KES were a regular fixture for Monnas and Helpmekaar over the past 10 years, I think the results (particularly at 1st XV) would really shock a lot of people. REALLY shock a lot of people. Monnas have lost to Jeppe 2 years in a row now, I expect a close game when they come to Kensington later this season but my truth to God feeling is we will beat them again (our u16A also won last year mind you, so that means we have a close game this year AND next on paper at least) – so that means, potentially 2023, 2024, 2025, and 2026 Monnas “may” lose to Jeppe, this was an U16A team KES beat rather comfortably twice, and a 1st XV they beat as we know. I think KES, who have been evenly matched with Jeppe 2023 and 2024 also would’ve beaten Monnas. I mean in a year where we were comfortably better than them they still had 5 Craven Week players and HOSTED the event, KES 5, Helpmekaar 5, and Jeppe 4 last year, so I don’t think anyone has the ear of higher ups necessarily, it should be them if anyone – I think they want to pick Monnas players as much as they reasonably can and they do, just like any school. But Monnas, as far back as I can remember has always had the most Craven Week players or on par with the most.. So I say all of this to say that this Monnas/Helpmekaar barometer I don’t think will serve us in judging what will happen to us perhaps against a Paarl Gim. I mean in 2023 or 2024, or this year, we would have been so naive to say that because we were able to dance with/beat Monnas, we are in good stead now to go and play against Paul Roos maybe – so naive, we’d have been put to the sword.
The task here is match making as Djou put it. I don’t think we should be prisoners of the moment re what happened to KES. Yesterday NH nearly beat Grey, was that a good match up on paper? It is not an easy task but I think it is the solution.
If there was a way to match ourselves against Affies and Garsfontein sometime early in the season before Noord-Suid, I think that is the barometer over here in North.
Paar lekker wedstryde sover.
Kwaliteit van rugby is oor die algemeen baie goed.
Die Suide doen sover baie goed.
Sterkte aan my Boishaai span vir more aand – dit gaan n groot wedstryd wees, ons staan bankvas agter julle!
@wanza_15 (Comment #197)
To the best of my knowledge they departed Thursday morning.
@Djou (Comment #225)
OK Nostradamus – plaas jou berekeninge dan asseblief volgende keer wanneer die bepalings uitkom.
Paarl Gin gaan baie naby aan n 100 kom teen Monument
@Kantman (Comment #221)
Ja, actually was dit nogal duidelik – as jy bietjie tyd vat.
Die PUK-reeks in Noordvaal bestaan uit spanne wat in Beker, “2e en 3e” liga speel. Kloof, Menlo, EG en Nelspruit is in Noordvaal Beker-afdeling. En as jy na die tellings kyk sou jy sien sommige was close calls.
En kyk na verlede jaar se PUK en Noordvaal o.16, 2e en 3e span uitslae – dan is dit duidelik dat paar skole sou sukkel.
En dan in JHB, doen dieselfde vergelyking, dan is dit ook duidelik watter spanne uit die Noorde vanjaar ondergemiddeld sou wees.
Dieselfde oefening sou wys dat bv Noordheuwel heeltemal onderskat word. Sover ek kon sien was ek die enigste een hier wat gevra het waarom niemand vir Noordheuwel ‘n kans gee nie.
So, regtig, dis nie so moeilik nie.
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #222)
Beide het baie goeie rugby gespeel en kon netsowel gewen het. Hopelik plaas dit ‘n demper op vroeë rankings, die seisoen is bitter jonk en ek het baie spanne gesien wat se voorbereiding nog nie op standaard is nie of waar een of twee spelers wat moet terugkom ‘n groot verskil gaan maak. Baie gaan nog verander soos die seisoen vorder.
Geluk met Menlo se wen – dit was mooi rugby!
@Snelvuur (Comment #204)
Sal hulle dophou, dankie!
@4×4 (Comment #220)
Noordheuwel en Garsfontein was puik … beide kon net so wel gewen het.
Affies vs HJS gaan baie close wees … hoop vir ‘n Noord wen. HJS se backs kan egter die verskil wees in my opinie.
Menlo se voordeel die jaar is dat meeste van die seuns 2024 al eerste span gespeel het met die sterk 0/16 span as lekker diepte. Afrigting en kondisionering is ook ‘n groot faktor.
@Djou (Comment #215)
Het jy of enige ander blogger hierdie tellings vooraf sien kom? Dink jy die organiseerders en die skole het nie krag teen krag vooraf oorweeg nie?
EG, Waterkloof en KES is erkende rugbyskole, ek dink hulle het uitgesien na hulle kragmetings. Jou kommentaar kan interpreteer word dat jy hulle geringskat.
Hindsight is a perfect science.
Ewe skielik lyk dit of Grey en PRG dalk moontlik gewen sal kan word die jaar, met Affies wie se eerste toets eers Maandag is teen Boishaai. Paarl Gim lyk na die span die jaar wat geklop moet word.
Baie geluk aan Garsies en Noordheuwel, dink beide was ongelukkig om nie die wen the kry nie..wonder net waar is Bloulou/mammon, “hulle” is beide baie stil en mens sou verwag dat daar darem ietsie gwsê word of raad gegee word vir die spanne wat “hulle” ondersteun
Baie geluk aan Menlo, goeie wen. Gedink daai onder 16 span van laasjaar mag dalk ontwikkel in iets spesiaal
@agter_die_pale_pa (Comment #217)
…Grey 12 is Jody se jonger boet…duidelik geen lojaliteit daar nie…
@agter_die_pale_pa (Comment #217)
Jy het reg gehoor…
@JongMatie (Comment #208)
Het ek reg gehoor dat hy van PRG af GF toe is? En dat PRG se 10 (baie beindruk) vanaf Grey High af is?
En is GCB 12 verwant aan Jody wat in Monnas was?
@Grizzly (Comment #213)
Ons sal, gaan net bietjie dol. Sodra daar tydjie oop is.
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #200)
@Kaya 85 (Comment #206)
Kaya, you get my point 100%.
Get the match ups right. A bit more effort from the organisers to get the match ups right will make the tournament (every match) enjoyable – as it used to be.
When there is 70 to 100 points differences, few people will watch the match in full.
If a school, for some reason, has an under strength team for one or two years, take that into consideration when compiling the tournament programme/match ups and don’t pitch them against one of the top teams.
Fo insyance, Jeppe had a real good team last year and surprised Grey (deservedly so), but that does not mean that this will be the norm and that Jeppe (still good, but not as good as last year) must now play against Grey just because Grey wants revenge. The organisers must check whether such match eill be a good strength vs strength match.
After all, this is SBR and not test rugby.
@Pypkan (Comment #212)
Baie trots! Kry my nr by Beet dat ons bymekaar kan kom. Ek weet nie hoe om jou in die hande te kry nie.Nie op face book nie. My social network bestaan uit die blog en nou en dan n YT video oor sport! Beste as Djou hulle stem vir daai bier om my daar te kry. Bly jys fine!
@Djou (Comment #210)
Fair enough. Kom ons gaan drink n bier dan bring ek vir Menlo saam. As julle net die reelings kan sort🤣
@Grizzly (Comment #187)
Karools, selfde hier. My vrou se geduld met my raak min.
Ek is ‘n groot Gim ondersteuner, want my niggietjies (susterskinders) wat daar skoolgaan het my aan skolerugby bekend gestel toe hulle in 2022 hier by my kom oorbly het vir Gim se sportnaweek teen Affies.
Maar hoe trots is ek nie op Garsies en Noordheuwel vir wat hulle vermag het nie! Elkeen van daai wedstryde kon netsowel Noord oorwinnings gewees het! Ek reken Stellenberg en GCB moet bekommerd wees.
Grey se 10 het ook n ersntige houdingtjie op hom.
Weet nie waar hy dit aangeleer het nie.
Iemand gaan hom nog hard raakry op die veld.
Sou dink n Grey stelsel sal hom sommer vinning aanspreek EN uitsorteer.
@Grizzly (Comment #202)
Ek weet Absoluut is jou groot polisievriend, maar dit vat nie weg van sy poging om wainindrukke te skep nie.
As ek praat oor ‘n toernooi – en hy verdraai dit asof ek praat oor individuele skole – dan is dit mos duidelik wie moeilikheid maak.
Ek gee rerig nie om of dit Noord of Suid is nie, ek genoet die rugby, maar as jy strooi wil praat dan gaan ek jou laat weet.
En as jy mooi lees, sal jy sien ek het Menlo gelukgewens.
Op n heel ander noot,
Suid storm voort
Noord stotter voort..
Ek moet bieg, Garsfontein 9 wat soos n regte kapokhaan vir die PRG spelers waai en glimlag terwyl hy nog deurdraf om n drie te gaan dring sit n vreeslike wrang smaak in my mond.
Siesa!
Grey’s fullback was very accomplished and exciting to watch. Any background…?
@Smallies…can you advise?
@OomPB (Comment #205)
Garsies and Noordheuwel have restored my hope and pride in North schools performance with those great games last night. Both played with a lot of coherence and composure against the BIG cannons…well done players and coaches. But I am wondering how big Noord Suid must get: should it revert to Top 4 or 5 only, or expand to include many teams, ..same with Wildeklawer..but there isn’t really a problem in my view if there are more teams…just that the match ups have to be done more carefully to avoid mis-matches or 102 point blow outs, if you know what I mean. But that said, maybe e.g. the Reds (and @Roger might donner me for saying this) got a dose of reality and perspective…how many times have we heard they’re best in Gauteng (obviously speaker usually meaning Jhb/Lions region), in years when they didn’t even play Monnas or Helpies … their supporters talk them up so much and their Lions representation is usually v v generous. They just ain’t as good as they thought or have been claiming…even those one or two seasons when they e.g. beat Affies, you didn’t see them playing any other BIG gun. Overrated? And at the risk of being donnered by the Jeppe boosters, Jeppe has the same complex: get a win v Monument and KES and come within 7 of Affies and think they top 10 in SA…
Dankie vir skole rugby. Garsies en NH was uitstekend. Die Wynland skole se wedstryde is iets om na uit te sien.
@Maroon machine supporter (Comment #193)
Stut is Mbaliswana wat laasjaar WP Akademieweek gespeel het. Flank is Christian le Roux – laasjaar WP Grant Khomo flank gespeel: hy is ‘n regte fetcher.
@Grizzly (Comment #202)
SBR🏉
@Djou (Comment #196)
Hoekom die aggresie, dis Mos nou N teen S. Wens Menlo geluk dat hulle n ongelooflike U draai gemaak het. Ek vir een het gedink dis die einde laas jaar.Wat maak dit saak waar jy gister was? Dit gaan oor vandag. Vandag is Menlo terug. Hoe meer kompeterend NV hoe beter kan ons kompeteer teen Suid.Wat NH en die Bere gedoen het, het baie te doen dat daar volgende jaar weer n toernooi is.Kom ons support die Noord spanne.NV beker gaan baie kompeterend wees.Dit gaan op die einde v d oor die grote prentjie, rugby.
@kantako (Comment #176)
NH was exceptional … looking forward to the rest of the tournament and that final game 🏉
@Djou (Comment #195)
100% … en gister het ons ‘n sterk Outeniqua gewen wat een van die 60/70 was en history will tell het ons Paarl Gim in NoordSuid gewen. Gars het 100 teen WKloof gevat en kyk waar is hulle nou. Gaan join die sirkus jy is ‘n nar.
In spite of losing, well done to Garsies on giving the home team a tough game. A couple of calls near the end felt harsh but its the good with the bad. Exciting match to watch. Maybe the moment of regret was that George could not exercise a different defensive option under duress, which paved the way for big centre Matt Kleyn to score after his good work to create the opportunity. So glad that Luan van den Berg got MotM. Special talent. One sees so many props making great carries into space but Luan is a scrum destroyer and makes valued hard yard carries in heavy traffic.
Paul Roos no doubt have the quality and a few injuries to good players.
@kantako (Comment #176)
Outstanding play by Noordheuwel and to think if the 6 flank had dotted down instead of dropping the ball over the line, what could have been.
Noordheuewel’s defence of the maul was memorable.
Lamla Mgedezi was outstanding for Grey.
I hate to spread misinformation or plant poisonous seeds, but a friend of mine told me that a friend of his was at the airport at 3:30am on Friday morning and KES were there? Maybe I missed it but I didn’t see the KES Facebook page post the 1st XV when they arrived/departed like they did the u14, u15, and u16s en route to their various festivals which I found a bit weird but played off to just something minor, whatever.
Did KES get to Stellenbosch on Friday morning only for their game on Friday evening?
@JongMatie (Comment #191)
Jurenzo nog beseer?
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #178)
Die waarheid maak maar altyd seer, vat dit eerder op die ken en beweeg aan eerder as om gat te kruip met mooi woordjies aan almal.
Gaan check die tellings in die verlede, en kom sê dan of ek verkeerd is.
Ek aanvaar jou verskoning by voorbaat.
In elk geval, ek het hele tyd van die toernooi gepraat (geldwolwe), nie van skole nie – lees en verstaan beter.
@Grizzly (Comment #190)
Ek hoop regtig jy is reg…ek sal close vat teen die groot name ongeag die uitslag.
@Snelvuur (Comment #186)
Ek hoor jou…Rabie en Schoeman behoort ‘n verskil te maak. Ek ken egter nie die stut en flank wat moet terugkeer nie.
@beet (Comment #169)
Fully agreed. At halftime I thought this was a very winnable game, defending good for the most part, thought we could have done better for a couple of those tries we gave away and we looked dangerous when we moved the ball, that 1st half was the best I’d seen us handle the ball so far this season. Second half completely different story, horrid. I don’t think Rondebosch needed to be anything special either – frustrating.
Goed deurgehaak deur Maroon Machine, inaggenome n gros eerste keuse spelers wat nog beseer is.
@Maroon machine supporter (Comment #185)
Nee, Garsies is goed. Jy sal sien. Die teken van n groot span is wat hulle doen onder druk. Julle het n kalm 10,spel breakers by dosyne. Dit gaan close wees tussen julle, BH en Gim. Dit kan enige kant toe gaan.
@Grizzly (Comment #187)
😂💪🏻👏
@Grizzly (Comment #187)
🏉
My vrou is nou mooi gatvol vir my. Twee dae se rugby, ek het net EG game half gemis. Wat n 2 dae!SA se toekoms lyk gesond. Daars geen manier wat die toernooi onder druk is nie. KES en Kloof het een van daai dae gehad. Noord het Baie guts gewys!! Vra vir Suid of hulle die toernooi Wil cancel? Daars 2 dae oor, kom ons geniet die seuns en rugby.
@Maroon machine supporter (Comment #185)
Meeste van die manne wat uit is kom darem in die pak terug: 2, 3, 4, 6
@Grizzly (Comment #184)
Al is hulle op vol sterkte gaan hulle klippe kou teen Affies, Boishaai, Gim en Grey. Die agterlyn is gevaarlik maar die pak is te lig…
@Maroon machine supporter (Comment #182)
Hulle hoef nie, as julle Bulle terug is sal julle sharp wees. Nr 1 is by die wynland skole die jaar, SA se trots!
Baie geluk PRG, dis n vooreg.
@Grizzly (Comment #147)
Nou verstaan jy hopenlik hoekom ek so nervous was. Garsies kon net sowel vanaand gewen het. Die PRG span gaan ‘n paar keer die jaar pak kry. Dalk al eerskomende Dinsdag…
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #180)
Ek kan nog steeds nie die krieket telling uitsort nie. Is dit 2/0.???
Geluk Paul Roos … bad luck Gars kon enige kant gaan 🏉
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #177)
NoordSuid 😂
@Djou (Comment #167)
Jy Bly maar ‘n clown en nou hypocrite wys my een skool wat nou hier by NoorSuid of enige ander toernooi in SA speel wat nie geld in sit nie “geldwolwe” joke … darem weet ek Gars is nie Djou!!
Well done NH … that is SBR … unpredictable!
Go Gars … Noordvaal at its best!!
KES will be back WKloof will be back 🏉🏉🏉
ON TOP OF THE HILL
Paul Roos will wake up tomorrow morning, look at the beautiful mountains around them, and must be wondering which hill is the Noordheuwel hill to climb before Monday.
@Roger (Comment #170)
I think there is some confusion about the statement I made. I’m not saying the JHB schools shouldn’t play against to powerhouse schools. On all the forums and social media platforms everyone is complaining that the NS games have been mostly one sided whereas the Grey Festival games have been more entertaining and evenly matched due to the fact it is more strenght vs strenght at that tournament. With the NS tournament being more spectator driven I would say have the top 10 schools or so from the previous year have a go at each other and then have derby matches throughout the year with the other schools as it’s obvious that the other schools would love to prove themselves against the “stronger” schools which they rightly should do because everyone wants to become better. I see what you’re saying about KES and again I never said KES is a bad school but you’re giving one school out of all of the JHB schools competing against the “stronger” schools.
GCB/Nories skolerugby op sy beste. Pragtige hardlooprugby maar vir my het die voorry van Grey in die skrums die wedstryd deurgetrek.
@Roger (Comment #170)Agree 100%
Take a bow Noordheuwel. What a match. Must be an early contender for match of the year.
Hoekom duik jy nie??!!! Ai, what a game! We’ll done NH!!so, so close. Congrats Grey. Now for the big one!
@HSBR (Comment #159)
Some perspective needed please. In the last 15 years KES have played the big 5 (Affies, Grey Bloem, Paarl Boys, Gimmies and Paul Roos) 18 times and there have been three blow outs. Paul Roos 2014, Affies 2015 and yesterday’s game. They have beaten Affies 3 times in that period, lost to Paarl Boys by 2 points in 2023 and narrowly in 2024 and didn’t disgrace themselves against Grey or Gimmies at Noord Suid last year. KES have also beaten Monnas, Waterkloof, Nordheuwel, all the Cape Southern Suburb schools, and all the Natal and EC schools over that period – a very bad day at the office does not mean you are on the wrong track. Breathe, learn and come back stronger. I’m sure they will.
Jeppe tank seemed filled for half a race. They were good in the first half which was a well matched even contest at 19-12 at the break.
Second half and Jeppe could not keep up.
Bosch wings were both great and both the big names and the experienced players in the Bosch team stood up and were counted when it mattered.
Well done Jeppe! We’ll done! 20 min in I though maybe… Bosch is a very good team with big game breakers. Congrats on the win, well deserved.
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #143)
Jou geheue is kort.
Menlo het paar jaar gelede self 60 tot 70 punte gevat. En een jaar selfs besluit om net een game te speel.
Groot tellimgs gebeur gereeld.
Paar skole het reeds nee gesê om verder deel te neem.
Punt is, toe die geldwolf instap en daar nou meer as 30 skole is teenoor 10 tot 16 ‘n aantal jare gelede, het die krag teen krag beginsel verdwyn.
JEPPE/GREY
@Kaya 85 (Comment #163)
Durbies beat Boishaai the year before last (think it was their 1st game of year at the Poterville rugbyday). Wynberg surprised Boishaai last year at Brugstreet…
@wanza_15 (Comment #150)
True test will come against the Cherries.
@Buthelezi2 (Comment #148)
It’s true…but Durbanville did beat HJS last year and remember that Monnas is also a co ed school (as are most of the NV Cup schools).
@HSBR (Comment #159)
On the topic of recruitment – I believe most boys pick a school where they align with the ethos and feel they fit. If it is about results of the first team last year against a top school you may be better off not getting that application.
@HSBR (Comment #159)
It was one game, the boys will bounce back🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
@HSBR (Comment #159)
I do not believe the KES boys were humiliated, I thought they gave it all up to the end. Like another blogger said, chin up boys. Gim was excellent on the night with superior speed, but that does not take away from the effort the KES boys put it. I see it as spectators not recognising both, and that is sad for me. @rugbyman has said before that schoolboyrugby is at a level where you can beat a competive team one day and concede 50 against a top school the next. Kids move on, parents should too.
@Kantman (Comment #156)
I say with regard to the boys wanting to test themselves against the powerhouse schools see if derby games can’t be scheduled for that throughout the year rather than these tournaments that are televised and the boys being humiliated nationally because let’s be honest no one won with the KES game last night and with KES being a proud school I think it did more harm than good. These nationally televised games in a way also serve as a “recruitment strategy” for Gr.7 boys, so you will have a talented boy who was maybe thinking of going to KES next year but after last night’s game might be having second thoughts and rather opt for going to one of the other JHB rugby schools
I can’t even say 2 3 Gimmies. That was a big score
@HSBR (Comment #156)
I agree from a spectators point of view, but have anyone asked the players about the chance to test themselves?
@Kantman (Comment #155)
I think the issue with the KES game,
and this is taking nothing away from KES as I feel like they are an excellent boys school and are very competitive in the “JHB league” if I can put it that way, but more often than not those types of scores is what unfortunately happens when these schools take on Paul Roos, Grey, HJS, etc. Yes, you do get a handful of instances where these schools do get it right once in a while and beat a powerhouse school but it’s maybe once in a decade. For instance, it is highly unlikely Jeppe will beat Grey in the coming days and I do think it’s gonna be a massive score for Grey. If you look at the fixtures at the Grey Festival, those schools are more evenly matched which makes for more entertaining rugby and not as many one sided scores like we have seen at the NS
@HSBR (Comment #152)
The Top5 over the past 15 years mostly play interschools against each other already. Only fixtures not in place is:
Affies vs HJS
Affies vs PRG
They will meet at NS and Wildeklawer respectively.
Not sure why the KES game is such an issue. They played Affies and HJS last year. And Jeppe beat Grey College.
Voortrekker was vir lank in die game. Stellies wat n Jong span het gaan n paar spanne verras die jaar.Baie talent. Semigrasie van Gauteng begin wys by die Kaap se spanne.
Jeppe may not have the x-factor and raw talent that they’ve enjoyed in previous years, however the grit and heart in that team is undeniable. I can’t see them beating Bosch or Grey but I believe they’re too proud to receive a hiding no matter how strong the opposition.
@Grasshopper (Comment #144)
I have always wondered if it wouldn’t be better for the traditional powerhouse schools to take each other on at the NS and Wildeklawer tournaments. The schools you play against in the derbies throughout the season you obviously don’t play at the tournaments. I think doing this will also give everyone a better idea of the true top 10/12 schools in the country and then you won’t see 102-0 scores at these tournaments which doesn’t do anyone any good.
@Grizzly (Comment #147)
Die koshuis manne is almal huis toe vir die vakansie, jonger spanne neem deel by ander skole, so dit gaan nie die volle mag van die maroon machine op die pawiljoen wees nie. Verder is dit ‘n pragtige dag in die Kaap en dit lyk asof daar min wind gaan wees vanaand…dus perfekte toestande vir rugby…en dan moet ek glo die skeidsregter sal neutraal wees.
RONDEBOSCH 2ND XV 19-27 JEPPE 2ND XV
Hope the 1’s were in attendance and motivated! 1st XV at 17:00 I believe
@Buthelezi2 (Comment #148)
The Durbies 1st team is a dark horse that just loves to cause upsets especially against big teams. Monnas on the other hand have been on a slippery downward slope for a while. They are no longer the rugby powerhouse of the 90’s/early 2000’s when they were coached by the legendary Hans Coetzee. Not exactly sure what has changed…but have a feeling the fact that they now have to compete with Noordheuwel for talent may explain part of it.
The fact that a B-league; Co-Ed WP school beating a Northern/Noordvaal POWERHOUSE isn’t even considered a major upset says everything. You can count on one hand the amount of other schools who could regularly win games in the WP A-League.
@Maroon machine supporter (Comment #146)
Jys nie so bekommerd soos ek nie! Nee PRG tuis, paviljoene vol, ref intimidasie van die skare, toestande vreemd… As die Bere net n game kan maak en nie weg raak nie sal ek tevrede wee. Eerlikwaar.
@Grizzly (Comment #145)
Noord gee beslis beter rekenskap van hulself vandag en ek voel steeds dit gaan ‘n baie interessante middag en aand se rugby wees. Ek is maar bekommerd oor die hoof game vanaand. Gim en Boishaai was gisteraand net in ‘n verwoestende bui en sou meeste spanne (PRG ingesluit) van die veld geblaas het.
Great HM! Fantastiese game. Weer goeie match up. Vaste 5 van HM die verskil. Agter 13 en 14 vir HM maar mom nr 12 van HM. Great game. Vir NM 7 en 9 die oog gevang. Dis beter Noord.
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #143)
Mate, the gulf between the Top 5 & the rest is only getting bigger. Maybe it should be a Top 10 only tourno, Top 5 in the North (Grey can be North) vs Top 5 South. 100 points is just crazy!!
In any tournament where Paarl Gim, Paul Roos, HJS, Grey and Affies play there will be big scores unless they play each other over and over again.
It is ridicules to now after 2/3 big scores think the tournament is under threat and the other schools’ rugby programs are falling apart.
I agree 100% with @Roger (Comment #125) sentiment.
@beet (Comment #121)
In my view north should include north of Orange River… therefore
Noord Suid Division 1
Affies
Grey
Garsies
Gim
Boishaai
PRG
@OUD ANKER (Comment #103)
@Wonder (Comment #102)
Back to basics first… let’s see what happens with Rondebosch/Jeppe and Paul Roos/Garsies….Go North!!
@Grizzly (Comment #136)
Fortunately it doesn’t always work like that…SBR can be very unpredictable as the “ball doesn’t always bounce” as expected.
@OUD ANKER (Comment #115)
Very good questiom and I don’t have all the answers.
Demographic shifts is one reason.
I van recall when Eldoraigne drew with Affies, Affies got beaten regularly by other schools in Pretoria and Mpumalanga. But nowadays some of the former strong rugby schools in the north just play rugby because it is a sport, and not THE sport as it was in the past.
Uitstekend MV.Jaar na jaar produseer SBR Uitstekende nr 8’s.MV nr 8,2,5,9 en 12 top klas. Hope talent by WG maar struktuur/afrigting ontbreek. MOOI game/mooi match up.
Anybody with an update on the Boishaai player who got injured? Seemed serious!
And the Waterkloof player who left the field after the tackle?
@Maroon machine supporter (Comment #134)
They will but my word, Gym and Oakdale top 5 candidates. Jeppe just manage to beat KES…lets wait and see. If Marais Viljoen can hold out WG,it looks a bit better for Noord.
@Roger (Comment #125)
Mate it happens, once the stuffing is knocked out of you it’s hard to keep grinding. A very bad day at the office vs a strong Gimmies side. There will be a year every now and again you can keep the score to 10 to 15, but vs the Top 5 it’s always a good day to keep below 50. The talent in the Cape is concentrated in a few small towns, most of Joburgs elite are moving there. SA will end up with 5 to 10 rugby ‘academies’….just that one league up. I do think there should be a mercy rule applied, stop the game at 75. Just my view…..especially after that Glenwood U14D team took 221-0 at Grey a few years back….
@Grizzly (Comment #131)
Not taking anything away from Bosch but as I said below the game vs Gim was a “practice match” and was only 15 min a side…so you can’t read too much into that? Re win vs Oakdale…it was always going to be a tough ask for Oakdale to lift themselves after having given everything and more against the mighty Grey the week before (always harder to motivate and lift yourself for the next game)? After today we will have a better idea how good this Bosch side is. Must be honest I haven’t watched any Jeppe games this year but knowing them I expect them to be competitive…
@OUD ANKER (Comment #132)
Ek dog jy praat van waar die ander skole is?
@Kantman (Comment #129)
Daai op piep werk dan duidelik baie goed vir Affies en Garsfontein tensy jy dink Pretoria is nie ‘n stad nie…
@Maroon machine supporter (Comment #118)
Hold their own against Gym, beat Oakdale? Think Jeppe is up against it later on….
Tweede een wat ek verkeerd predict het. Well done Rustenburg! Dink nie Affies het Diamantveld so ver gewen nie?
@OUD ANKER (Comment #115)
Dalk word die stadskinders te veel opgepiep?
@Kantman (Comment #126)
Thanks. Hendre van Zyl not van der Linde
@Maroon machine supporter (Comment #123)
Yes, shows in that 1/3 of Gim points were scored in last 10 minutes
@beet (Comment #119)
Small correction – the #7 surname is Van Zyl
KES GIMMIES
@Snelvuur (Comment #120)
Agree 100% that Bosch is a good team. Would just think that Oakdale was most probably a little flat after the long and difficult trip to Bloem…and Bosch was another away game for them.
@Kantman (Comment #122)
Agreed and altitude also not a factor this time round…
@CapeMan (Comment #116)
Great summary. Would add that playing at home is big advantage for Cape teams. First time that North have to travel for u19 games while South can sleep at home.
@Rainier (Comment #108)
The North border should be the Vaal River. Any school North of the Vaal is “Noord”. So old Transvaal only.
Any school South of the Berg River is true “Suid”. So just WP, Boland and SWD = Western Cape.
All the others from Central and East Coast are just part of the fun of the festival. They are not Noord or Suid
@Maroon machine supporter (Comment #118)
Bosch beating Oakdale (who went toe-to-toe with Grey in Bloem) does show that they are a proper team though. I’d say they’ll beat Jeppe by 15-20.
@Grizzly (Comment #113)
Just one change to the Gim team who played against Bosch. Van Zyl the 7 who scored that brilliant chip and collect try near the end of the KES game, came in for the injured Dreyer twin.
@Grizzly (Comment #113)
Gim vs Bosch wasn’t a full game…was 15 min a side…no goal kicks…was more like “chukkas”. Can’t read much into that re Bosch strength. Bosch vs Jeppe today should be competitive in my opinion
Framesby gelyk soos n span wat lank saam speel. Duineveld op hul beste dag eenvoudig nie op gewasse nie. Hul hantering glad nie op standard nie.Verdediging vernaam agter bestaan nie. Lyk glad nie af gerig nie.
GIM VS KES
And boy, was I right about this Gim team. It wasn’t some intricate rugby that we were watching but really what they did is receive the ball, have their forwards go up the middle in two phases, and then the 9 and 10 communicated so well where they would identify the space, pull their players to where they could get extra numbers, and then just play simple, draw and pass rugby while being direct. KES just couldn’t handle their pace, power and aggression. Everyone knows how good Muller is but I was highly impressed by their 9 and 10, who just dictated everything. The Gim lossies had a party today. Anything they did turned into gold. Whether they were crashing it, or whether they playing in the backline. They always looked for space while being direct. To say the KES parents were shell shocked would be putting it lightly. Spoke to a few Gim supporters and they felt bad for KES and some even apologised as they didn’t want the score to be so big but you play to win the game and if I’m a coach, as long as my players are on the field, I tell the boys to play as hard as they can because when you pull your punches, that’s when injuries typically happen. Chin up KES. Wynberg Boys some years ago also got a 90 or 100 from Gim if I remember correctly, but it didn’t stop them from building and being a really good side the next couple of years.
@Djou (Comment #105)
The questionn is why the North Schools are not competitive any more? Forget about Grey for a moment, since they are somewhat of an enigma and neither North nor South. In the South you have the 3 traditional power houses, i.e. PRG,HJS and Gim. Today in the North you have Affies and Garsfontein. What happened to Monnas/Kloof/Menlo/Helpmekaar. One of them (and maybe there are others),surely should make up the 3rd North powerhouse to cancel out the 3 in the South. Then the next question is how do the North “soutie” schools compare to their South counterparts. That is why the Rondebosch/Jeppe game today is going to be very interesting. My point and question is not the fact that South has 3 powerhouses, but rather what happened to the North powerhouses. I believe on the next tier re. my comment on Bosch/Jeppe North and South are pretty much on par….and Framesby vs. Duineveld…really guys, if Grey is South then surely Duineveld must be South as well and then PBHS would have been a better NORTH challenge for Framesby (and no disrespect aimed at Duineveld)
Things are still not going well for Noord-Suid 2025 in terms of good match-ups. Framesby are scoring at almost a point a minute against Duineveld. 27-0 after 29min.
Not easy for the organisers. Last year Duineveld had a decent side and would have given Framesby a good go and possibly been favourites to win the game.
@beet (Comment #110)
No one. Surely the only light at the end of a very dark tunnel yesterday. Can I just say the last yellow card for KES was not justified. Nothing wrong with the tackle.Do you know if the Gim side that played Rondebosch was full strength?
Ek het redelike vermoede gehad dat Menlo ‘n goeie span mag hê want hulle Onder 16 span van 2024 is ‘n goeie span. So vir volgende 2 jaar behoort hulle lekker te kan jol.
@Bungee (Comment #95)
The ball was a bit slippery last night. Was not noticeable when Gim handled it but clearly KES had a few issues. I think practicing under floodlight conditions forms important prep for a night game and it won’t surprise me if Gim did a bit of this during the week.
@Grizzly (Comment #107)
I wonder how many people saw Menlo coming the way they did yesterday. The Kwaggas had made a good start to the season and during yesterday’s game there was plenty of evidence of what they can do when afforded a bit of space. Menlo did well to contain them and produce good attacking plays of their own.
Bad start. Live Noord-Suid is not on TV this morning so no continuous feed
Netball got the nod instead
I am still not sure why Grey falls in the south, geographically it makes no sense.
I weep for humanity when reading some of the comments here, but more so when looking at the comments on Facebook about the KES loss.
As a coach I once took a century against Tuks and my players were shattered and humiliated – now repeat that exercise with younger boys and a national television audience. I stopped watching the game last night at 50.
Good luck to the Nico Malan boys today. #bloutrui
@OUD ANKER (Comment #100)
Gister met groot afwagting voor die TV in geskuif. Alhoewel ek Menlo verkeerd voorspel het, het ek nie voorsien wat in die ander games gaan gebeur nie. Almal hier is dit eens wat gebeur het met die KES game moes nie gebeur het nie. So vandag is ek baie reluctant om die TV aan te sit.Ek hoop Noord verras ons. Sterkte aan al die spelers. Wat ek uit gister se games vat is dat die een wat interskole voorspel die jaar baie braaf is.
@BereFan (Comment #88)
Hierdie is n baie goeie Affies SPAN (basies onstuitbaar) ; vir kommentators om individue so op te hemel, en dan is dit nog kinders, is totaal onnodig en ongesond.
@OUD ANKER (Comment #101)
Agree 100%
Spectators are going to stay away and fewer will watch on the telly.
I predicted that the tournament will start losing its appeal once the organisers decided to more than double the number of schools and also failed to do proper research on the strength of schools (e.g. this year Paarl Gim vs KES).
The South just has too many top schools for the North to be competitive.
Weer een rigting verkeer vir Suide vandag.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #98)
We forgive your little “mistykie” with the Kloof prediction…everybody knows it was a typo…we need your predictions for todays games.
@Kaya 85 (Comment #98)
Keep on predicting.
You predicted 23-26 win for Kloof.
Well 23+26 is 49, close enough to 66-0, I give you this one.
@KatzRugga (Comment #99)
What worries me is what the future of North/South is? As you rightly point out there were not many competitive games. What happens if the same thing again happens today. Scores of 60 and 100 are not only a farce but for me it then becomes very boring even if my team is dishing out the hiding. I mean KES and Kloof are historically elite rugby schools and if they are beaten up like this, does it mean North/South will become a 6 school festival in future….
@4×4 (Comment #93)
Ek kon dit nie beter gestel het nie!
FOR THE LOVE OF SCHOOLBOY RUGBY
On the flip side it also reminded us that some of these schools resemble pro sports academies for better or for worse.
Reality for me was that after a well deserved day in front of the T.V just 1 game was worthwhile watching.
Hope the coming days will be a better match up and the boys and parents will form meaningful bonds and friendships for the future.
@BoishaaiPa (Comment #96)
Ek gaan nou eerder my Bek hou met predictions vir ‘n hele rukkie.
Came back from my graveyard shift to see Klofies who I called for an upset get BURIED by 66…and then KES get MASSACRED by 102. Never saw that coming. Gim is one awesome team,…their centre powering through the maul…their 2 or 8 outstripping backs for pace…just relentless. Overwhelmed. Well done Gim, very focused.
Eish…Some early predictions were way off. Gongrats to Durbies..well played game. Last 2 games where a bit one sided. Never expected that. Never good when a great institution like KES gets hammered like that. Well done to Gim, but that is not good for SBR. I hope we never see the likes of that again soon.
@Henkies (Comment #92)
The one player that did impress me in the game was the no.9 of KES. Not because game play necessarily, but because of his attitude throughout the whole game
@RuggaFreak (Comment #89)
Lol, just pulling your leg!
For Jeppe, in all honesty I think this year you are right, based on the benefit of seeing the team play, we were better off probably at Grey PE fest – they’re not as good as they were last year. I say “based on the benefit of seeing them” because I am fully aware that they set these festivals and match-ups up way in advance and they don’t have this benefit, they set this up before they were sure that KES will be match for Gim THIS YEAR. I think I have heard somewhere even that they decide based on how good you are currently, who you will play next year, which makes no sense for obvious reasons. So The Reds were of coursr a much stronger outfit last year and accepted the task maybe high off the THEN grains of success. In our case re: Grey on Monday, Grey probably wouldn’t take no for an answer for a rematch, but same thing for the most part..
I think this goes back to a conversation a few of us were having onthe thread about the difference really between the big 6 rugby schools and all the rest – there is no “off year” at these schools as we can probably now after 3 games call this for KES. They are always to ready to compete at the highest level. So this year for Jeppe and KES maybe the answer is no so we should go to Grey PE, but then next year maybe it is yes, and then the year after, no again? Who knows. But if people at KES had the benefit of time, and seeing this current team play, they probably would’ve reconsidered playing Gim.
I think there is also the commercial/ratings side to things having to have certain schools over others.
@JongMatie (Comment #85)
Streef altyd daarna om ‘n beter mens te wees, tensy jy ‘n doos is, moet nooit daarna streef om ‘n groter doos te wees nie!
@beet (Comment #66)
Agreed Beet, no one wants to see the score going past 60, 70 on any school. Taking a score of over 100 is damaging on the minds of young players.
I don’t think Glenwood has ever taken 100, even 90 before. Grey Bloem I think 70ish in Bloem. Fok, KES got wiped out.
@JongMatie (Comment #85)
Krisis, my maat. Ander skole mag ook goeie spelers hê. Dit gebeur. Affies, HJS en Gim lyk warm. Klomp goeie spelers daar.
@wanza_15 (Comment #87)
Well we did beat Kes at Grey Fest but good luck. Selborne, Framesby, Graeme etc would be solid opposition.
@JongMatie (Comment #85)
Jys hartseer om so openlik jaloers te wees op n outjie wat nog op skool is(in graad 11 ook nog)as jy niks goed te se het nie bly eerder stil.
@RuggaFreak (Comment #84)
I mean there’s definitely a home in the sense we’d probably be comfortable. We have the annual fixture now against DHS and Northwood so we wouldn’t play them if we were to attend. So minus these 2 schools, who would be happy to see Jeppe at Grey High fest lol? Queens? Happier I hope than you were to see us at KES fest last year and Grey fest the year before
Thanks for the wishes, we need them for as early as tomorrow nevermind Grey on Monday
@beet (Comment #82)
Beet. I doubt KES will clinch against Bosch and SACS. However, I reckon they have a good chance against Knights and will mosdef clinch against Candies
@Grizzly (Comment #48)
Affies se 9 word omtrent so baie soos Du Pont opgehemel.
Genade…
Makro skolerugby krag bly maar in die Suide, en die Maroon Machine het nog nie eers gespeel nie…
@wanza_15 (Comment #76)
Good luck against College, but there’s a home for you guys at Grey High fest.
@beet (Comment #82)
Oh but the Candies will definitely be licking their lips – pun intended.
@Raps (Comment #80)
Yeah I imagine Marco will be feeling serious pressure now. That’s unfortunately the life of a SBR head coach now. And the headmaster’s life will be a lot tougher as well.
KES have a run of 5-winable games between now and the end of April. Everyone will bank Parktown on 26 April but the other 4 are tougher. If the team can bounce back and win three out of four (SACS, Candies, Bosch and the Knights), I think it will be pressure returning to normal levels (its never low or off these days)
@Snelvuur (Comment #72)
Yikes. 49-19. That was sort of the score I had in mind for the Kwaggas vs Menlopark today as well.
Marco Engelbrecht has SERIOUS questions to answer. What a torrid start to the season for KES
@JeppeZimD (Comment #78)
I agree. Whilst I am on record calling Grey the greatest rugby school on the planet, particularly at 1st XV level, it sounds crazy but I’d rather play Grey than the Cape big 3, particularly Gim. They did something similar to Pretoria Boys High last year at KES fest.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH PAARL GIM
When they caught 67 in those Green dresses at Wildklawer I never thought it could get better …..However today wow ….. that was something special honestly… I am done with SBR forever
@wanza_15 (Comment #74)
…. So glad we not playing Gym….Cape Schools clearly not about to undermine Jozi schools ala Grey College 2024. Gym came out with a hammer, tongs, bells and pots from the get go… like a blind bat in hell on a random Tuesday. Foquenel, that was a fugly game from a KES team/supporters point of view.
I remember watching us cop a 83-0 Loss against Affies in my Matric year in 1997 at Jeppe. Gym’s’ 102-0 “Stone Cold Stunner ” on KES is heavy.
@RuggaFreak (Comment #61)
Damn, we’ve not even thrown a ball yet
@SNELVUUR (COMMENT #51)
@beet (Comment #66)
In 2015 I believe they lost 92-0 to Affies, I stand to be corrected, “heard” that one, never saw it.
This was total destruction tonight at Markotter.
@Roger (Comment #71)
It was so bad that they have the Jozi boys speaking Afrikaans now…
@beet (Comment #70)
Average score today: South 49 – 19 North.
EINA
not sure what happened but sounds like total capitulation which if true is difficult to stomach – but the sun will rise tomorrow and these boys are still just boys. They will be hurting – I hope they show some character and bounce back on Monday
Last three games
Powerhouses 225 – 17 Credible opponent schools
Average of 75-6
Oor die game wat se n mens. Nooit nice vir n span om 100 te vat nie. Wat Gim aan betref moet n serious contender wees vir 1 die jaar. Geluk aan al die wen spanne.
Going back to Waterkloof and Ronan Bastiaanse. I think he pulled off the ankle tap of the season for that try saver on Kaleb Holmes
102 NIL THIS IS THE HIGHLIGHT OF MY SIDE LITTLE LIFE
EINA. That was bad. 102-0. I remember last year with KES coming in cold and getting beaten 51-16 by Grey College. Everyone thought that result was bad. Then way back in 2014 KES went to Wildeklawer and lost 67-0 against Paul Roos. That one was difficult to live down. Not sure how people will take this but thought the ref should have been instructed by the organisers to blow it early. it was not fun to watch after the 60 point mark
@RuggaFreak (Comment #61)
Agreed. That was not pretty at all.
WYN TOER
@RuggaFreak (Comment #61)
I absolutely agree …. this is a massacre ….. these Southerners are merciless
MORE OF A RUGBY SCHOOL THAN JEPPE WILL EVER BE
KES,Jeppe etc, come back to Grey Fest lads, these WC Africaans schools are on a different level.
@Bungee (Comment #59)
From what I’ve seen from KES and EG today, SACS and Durbanville could have 2/2 for the week. Wouldn’t have predicted that before the week started.
The SACS players will be sleeping very lekker the next few nights dreaming with excitement for their game on Monday
@Bungee (Comment #56)
Voortaan beken as die Suid-Noord toernooi… Belangrik vir die toernooi dat more se tellings nader is
Paarl Gim putting the cirKES to the sword. Gim has obviously been good, but KES has probably been the poorest team on show today – loads of trick-type plays that don’t work out at all. Gim will tear you to shreds.
This is not fun watching anymore. It doesn’t even feel like Gim is playing particularly well, just KES being so poor.
In the NFL there was a proposal to ban the Tush Push. Maybe SBR needs a petition to ban the Maulkus (Markus Maul) as well
Sjoe Boishaai made it look easy today.
Really happy that Gershom Pieters got MotM. Well deserved. Also good to see the Boishaai lineout functioning after a few years in the wilderness
Jeneal Davids pace was a bit of a surprise package. I just expected him to be much slower.
Really like Liam de Villiers at 9 as well.
Joubert twins fairly quiet as were the two Klofies rated players Bastiaanse and Kok. But must say I enjoyed Tristan Joubert making some textbook passes
@agter_die_pale_pa (Comment #51)
Ja self. Sal se BH is kort kop die gunsteling. Wat die game betref… Kloof uit hul diepte. Wat uitstaan vir my van BH is hul verdediging.
@agter_die_pale_pa (Comment #51)
Big question marks around Affies’ BMT after last year. Hope they can step up against HJS.
Cannot wait for Affies vs Boishaai
@beet (Comment #49)
Agree. Reminds me of Dieter Schubert, Affies nr8 from couple of years ago
Some memorable tries by the Donkies that included exquisite passes but ultimately Affies too big, too strong, too clinical. Very hard to stop package.
For me personally the Affies no.8 Stefan MacDonald my favourite player of the day so far.
Affies net te veel skiet goed. Drosdy n span vol karakter wat nooit op gegee het nie. Affies spelers te veel om uit te sonder maar 8 wat soos n trojaan gespeel het. Geluk Affies, well done.
@beet (Comment #44)
Thanks.
Geluk Durbanville. Monnas baie foute gemaak. Verskil was die baie strafskoppe teen Monnas maar DV goed op die losbal. Ref nie die beste game gehad nie…. Hoop nie ons trek hom more aand se game nie.
Another big scalp for Durbeez neez! I remember them beating a decent Helpmekaar team a few years back and who can forget the win against HJS at Porterville.
The exciting Durbies backs made it happen. Have to feel the way the 2nd half went in terms of P&T that Durbies left a few points on the field.
Exciting game to watch.
Blues for Monnas. At times they struggled for identity.
@Grizzly (Comment #43)
He is with Helpies
@beet (Comment #36)
Beet, watching the Monnas game I was ask where’s Tjaart coaching now? Do you know?
Baie beïndruk met Durbanville sover. Groot verbetering van laasweek teen Milnerton af. Hulle agterlyn is warm!
@beet (Comment #36)
Yes nr1 outstanding for Kwaggas. Agree with your take on the game. Menlo back line play the great surprise. Also hats off to the couching staff, you mentioned their structure play.
@AbsolutMenlo (Comment #38)
Praat jy. Jyt iets geweet wat die ander nie het nie. Daai is n goeie Kwaggas span. Waar Los dit Menlo?? Baie bly vir julle, well done!
Well done Menlo tweedes wat 20-17 wen.
Well done MenloBoys!!
@beet (Comment #36)
Solid team performance now just to focus on a 70 minute effort.
@Grizzly (Comment #37)
… jou gese verwag ‘n paar verrassings
34-24 Menlo.Wow!Baie geluk Menlo. Die telling vlei die Kwaggas. Laaste 10min met Menlo subs n paar weghol driee gedruk.Baie uitblinkers vir Menlo maar 9,2,6,12,15 wat die oog gevang het maar my mom was 13.Wat n talent.Eerste een wat ek klaar verkeerd predict het. MOOI MENLO!!!
@Grizzly (Comment #35)
What a shock. Menlo played outstanding rugby in that first half. The structure and speed of attack was too good. Lots of players impressed. A good deal of the platforms started with solid lineout work. 9-10-12-13 and 15 all good for Menlo. Prins the Kwaggas prop also put his hand up in a losing cause. Also have to say the Menlo D prevented Outeniqua from being as dangerous as they were against Boland Landbou out wide. The Kwaggas also made a few too many errors
@beet (Comment #34)
Dink die Kwaggas ly aan bom skok, Menlo 22-0 half tyd. Kwaggas nie in die game nie. Kan bly wees 10 Menlo is af met die skop skoen.
Not a memorable first half but SACS made the most of it and produced a very surprising 24-5 lead at the break, this in spite of worrying lineout work. The 2nd half was even stevens at 7-7. Gimmies tried hard to up the pace, keep it loose and looked like they could close the gap but just lacked that finishing touch. They were the stronger team in the second half but had little to show for it on the scoreboard.
Parel Vallei far too strong for the Mali XV. PV sacrificed attending the Oakdale Fest for this opportunity. I guess if they get invited to an expanded NS at Affies in 2026 it will be well worth it.
Sien die Bere speel Grey en Oakdale Bulle op Wildeklawer😳Garsfontein as julle nog budget het is dit nie te laat om te koop nie. NS perfekte venue. Hoekom ek gaan kyk het en wat my pla is wanneer laas het Garsfontein teen Gim gespeel. In die ou NS was dit elke 2 de jaar.Dodge Gim die Bere? 🤔🤣
I wanted to rearrange the fixture list with the favourites to win first, but there are some very tough matchups to call.
PV should win.
SACS vs Welkom Gim – I want to say SACS because the Gimmies have a young team, but they are battle-hardened.
The Kwaggas have been the surprise package of 2025 so far, and I expect their winning streak to continue against the Parkies.
BL has yet to produce a convincing performance, but this is a weaker 2025 Jansies team. This would have been an excellent matchup in 2024.
Durbies vs Monument could be interesting. The Witbulle will want to bounce back after the painful Grey defeat, but the margin might depend on which Durbies team pitches up. If it’s the one in the mood for a battle, this won’t be smooth sailing for Monnas.
Affies are the number one ranked school coming into the season and are a very powerful team. The Donkies had a good outing against Paul Roos, including a disallowed try for a slight forward pass at the end of the first half – a move that showcased how lethal they can be from deep. But PRG made plenty of handling errors in that match, which destroyed their own continuity.
HJS has been flying under the radar so far. I suspect a big win over a credible Klofies might make people stand up and notice their high aspirations, even though it’s still early days.
KES did some good things against Jeppe in that epic match last weekend, and at least they don’t come in cold like they did for the big game against Grey at NS in 2024. However, with a capital H, Gim is a tsunami of structured forward intensity, while their backs contain one of the biggest X-factors in SA SBR this year.
Ek kan nie glo hierdie toernooi het so groot geword nie. Ook nie dat die Kaap hom gekaap het nie😭Dis net n joke! Elke 2 de jaar maak dit net meer exclusive. Bly die Enelse skole van die Noord is daar. Kort net vir PBH maar glo dit sal binnekort gebeur. Sterkte vermaam aan al die spelers maar ook almal betrokke. Let the games begin!
Sterkte aan die Blou Trein vir Noord Suid.
Weet julle manne sal ons trots maak!
@Grizzly (Comment #27)
Dag 1 Noord 2 Suid 5
Dag 2 Noord 3 Suid 6
Dag 3 Noord 2 Suid 5
Dag 4 Noord 2 Suid 7
Dag 1 Noord 1 Suid 6
Dag 2 Noord 2 Suid 7
Dag 3 Noord 1 Suid 6
Dag 4 Noord 2 Suid 7
Ek het nie die Mali foundation games in ag geneem nie.
Is hierdie wedstrydbepalings nog reg vir die Suid-Noord toernooi?
@Buthelezi2 (Comment #24)
Sorry I don’t know what happened to my comment.
It was a good win for SACS for sure
@beet (Comment #23)
Beet?
@Buthelezi2
Apparently SACS u17s beat Grey Kollege in 7s this past weekend😳.
Signs of a promising team next year? Look forward to their games at Noord Suid 2025
GREY/JEPPY
@wanza_15 (Comment #18)
Interestingly Jeppe vs Grey College was also an initial fixture on the Wildeklawer 2025 list. This now has to be changed.
@wanza_15 (Comment #18)
Did the Jeppe boys enjoy the beach after the DHS game?
I wonder if this re-match vs Grey was a mutual agreement, or was it more a demand from Grey. I’ve not known the exact same game to happen at a festival 2 years in a row, especially considering Paul Roos or Gim aren’t on our annual fixture list either, I predicted with my mates that after what I saw as far as our fixture selection in 2024 was in HJS and Grey, next year would be Gim and PRG (or something).
I suspect Grey REALLY want to settle the score.
Alas, we will be there, and they will get their rematch. We will fight.
On paper, Grey’s u16s very strong, pipped only by PRG I believe? Ours came something like 20th.
This 2024 1st XV also had a lot of matrics for us, I think only 3 survivors for next year. I’m not sure how many grade 11s are in the Grey 1st XV? If someone could assist.
We had a lukewarm 2nd team with a lot of grade 11s so it is going to be very tough from a Jeppe perspective.
I disagree with Kaya. I think if Grey have their sights set on the game and are in bed by 8pm then we are in trouble. I think to win these kinds of games, the game is won before getting on to the field (opponents had a late night, underestimated opposition, maybe a beer even or 2 etc etc)
If they take it personal, we lose, that is Grey after all, the mecca of rugby on the world.
@Snelvuur (Comment #11)
..and in mud bro
@Bloktrui (Comment #8)
Ek vermoed die kalender volgende jaar speel ‘n groot rol.
28 Maart tot 7 April is vakansie en Noord-Suid.
Twee weke later is Paasnaweek en Easter Tournaments.
28 April tot 4 Mei is weer ‘n week vakansie en Wildeklawer.
Agt weke later is Junie vakansie, wat 2 weke later as in 2024 begin, en eers 21 Julie klaar is.
Very exciting to see Sacs and Rondebosch there as they both should have strong teams next year
@TJ (Comment #13)
The Cape teams have been doing that for 10 years ….
@SO (Comment #12)
It’s the cost of Noord/Suid that is scaring away the boys from the Last Outpost. Flights from the Land of the Zulu to SlaapStad aren’t cheap by any stretch and now try and pay for 50 return tickets plus transport from the airport plus accomodation for the weekend makes the eye water a tad.
@Bloktrui (Comment #8)
Maritzburg & DHS het vorige jare gespeel, nie seker hoekom hulle nie meer daar is nie
@Kaya 85 (Comment #9)
Grey will be training with a wet ball from now until March next year 😂
@Kaya 85 (Comment #9)
The tournament is only a reputation builder for them as anything good that happens will only enhance their reputation. I don’t believe that with those fixtures anyone can look down on any result that would occur for them.
Jeppe / Grey rematch will be so interesting…don’t write Jeppe off. Grey must not approach that game as a chance to set the record straight or a grudge or anything like that..that would play into Jeppe’s hands. Grey must just play rugby…
Both Jeppe and KES being involved in this tournament is just great…KES v Gim …mouth watering.
Noordheuwel?? What are you guys expecting from those 2 match ups…yikes, that might be biting off a bit more than they can chew…
Enige rede waarom daar geen skole van KZN deelneem nie……ek weet dit is NOORD/SUID , maar Diamantveld en Duineveld is seker ver genoeg WES dat daar dalk iets uit die OOSTE ook kan wees?
@BoschBoy (Comment #5)
). Tyrrel Myburgh, I think only played the next year. Anyway, congratulations on your school’s great 2024 season. Institution of excellence. By far my favourite CT school.
Have a look at the PRG vs Grey record score article here on SBR, Bosch gave Grey quite an Altius et Latius beating in 1964. During Mr. Murison’s (RIP) years as headmaster at Bosch, circa 1987 I think, Bosch lost to Grey College by 5 if I remember correctly. Andrew Gardner played hooker for Bosch (Paarl Gim’s old Bok Morne” Visser aka Pluksel kept him out of Craven Week). Gardner was one mean, superstrong ginger mongrel, Andrew Steer played flyhalf/center (I think SACS’s James Wiston and PRG’s Thomas Barlow kept him out of WP Cravenweek), Butch Buchanon, the surfer also played, Tony Steward the King of Canigou played, then there was that super center, jogged past their holiday house earlier today (it is shit when you get too old to remember your own holiday mates’ names
Grey PE pitty they not there leading school in EC for many years best ranked in 2024 season next year going to have a real nice team hope they make 2026 group.
Really excited at the prospect of Bosch playing at this!
Nice to play against Nelspruit and also Jeppe, who scored a last minute winner against us at an Easter festival in 2022 – time for some revenge hehe? ;)
Would’ve loved to see us take on Grey College though, what a unique and amazing fixture that would’ve been for the boys from the Cape! Don’t recall if we’ve ever played them before…at least not in recent memory.
Grey College have not stopped calling us since Noord Suid. Heard our MIC had to change his phone number😊🤭.. sigh..
Alright Grey, here’s your re-match.
Surely we can’t win again?👀
Is Duineveld/Diamantveld/Voortrekker nou Noord of Suid?
Affies vs Boishaai and GF vs PRG always great at N/S.
GCB vs Jeppe 2.0 (Hope Jeppe is ready, bet Grey cannot wait for this one).
Noordheuwel signed up for a massive couple of days!
Jeppe vs Rondebosch and KES vs SACS, awesome for SA SBR.
Excellent news to see Rondebosch and SACS will be participating!