With Queen’s a little off the pace in 2014, it’s been left to regional powerhouses Selborne and Dale to battle it out for the Border title in 2014. Selborne will be the favourites but Dale can’t be underestimated. The boys from King put up a huge challenge against a good Grey High 1st XV in Port Elizabeth a fortnight ago.
Teams
| SELBORNE | DALE | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Cole van Tonder | 1 | Zimi Ngqongqwana |
| 2 | Tango Balikile (C) | 2 | Sango Mtotywa |
| 3 | Daniel Voigt | 3 | Kuhle Mokhoabane |
| 4 | Daniel Froneman | 4 | Johann Loubser |
| 5 | Robert Lyons | 5 | Lwazi Poswayo |
| 6 | Adrian Greig | 6 | Buntu Ponono |
| 7 | Heinrich Nieuwenhuizen | 7 | Siyanda Am |
| 8 | Jason Steyn | 8 | Bunono Sindi |
| 9 | Joshua Allderman | 9 | Sibusiso Ngcokovane (C) |
| 10 | Morgan Steyn | 10 | Courtney Winnaar |
| 11 | Michael Botha | 11 | Luyolo Khuse |
| 12 | David Brits | 12 | Siyamthanda Mgubo |
| 13 | Jacinto Da Silva | 13 | Yamkela Nyalambisa |
| 14 | Tristian Coetzee | 14 | Luzuko Mase |
| 15 | Liam McLoughlin | 15 | Justerino Davids |
Overall Eastern Cape Table for 2014 to date
| # | EASTERN CAPE | P | W | D | L | PF | PA | PD | MP | BP | Pts | Avg |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Selborne | 6 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 277 | 106 | 171 | 24 | 3 | 27.0 | 4.50 |
| 2 | Grey HS | 6 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 285 | 127 | 158 | 20 | 5 | 25.0 | 4.17 |
| 3 | Dale | 8 | 7 | 0 | 1 | 210 | 125 | 85 | 28 | 5 | 33.0 | 4.13 |
| 4 | St Andrew’s | 8 | 5 | 0 | 3 | 233 | 224 | 9 | 20 | 5 | 25.0 | 3.13 |
| 5 | Nico Malan | 5 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 109 | 134 | -25 | 12 | 2 | 14.0 | 2.80 |
| 6 | Brandwag (Uitenhage) | 4 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 95 | 101 | -6 | 8 | 2 | 10.0 | 2.50 |
| 7 | Queen’s | 8 | 4 | 0 | 4 | 161 | 222 | -61 | 16 | 3 | 19.0 | 2.38 |
| 8 | Daniel Pienaar | 3 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 52 | 40 | 12 | 4 | 3 | 7.0 | 2.33 |
| 9 | Grens | 4 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 89 | 109 | -20 | 8 | 1 | 9.0 | 2.25 |
| 10 | Marlow | 5 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 104 | 118 | -14 | 8 | 3 | 11.0 | 2.20 |
| 11 | Framesby | 5 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 105 | 124 | -19 | 4 | 3 | 7.0 | 1.40 |
| 12 | Hudson Park | 6 | 1 | 0 | 5 | 103 | 136 | -33 | 4 | 4 | 8.0 | 1.33 |
| 13 | Kingswood | 4 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 81 | 116 | -35 | 4 | 1 | 5.0 | 1.25 |
| 14 | Graeme | 6 | 1 | 0 | 5 | 125 | 199 | -74 | 4 | 1 | 5.0 | 0.83 |
| 15 | Cambridge | 6 | 1 | 0 | 5 | 79 | 227 | -148 | 4 | 1 | 5.0 | 0.83 |
@Knight_CHS07: I sent Beet the CW team and see he has posted it. I am still waiting for the Academy side and hopefully I will get it tonight. Don’t know if I’ll ever get hold of the GK team.
@GCollege86: Thanks mate. The fixtures are also available on the rugby356 website. I’m looking forward to watching that game(Grens vs Nico Malan).
I have given up Border Rugby Union. The CW, AW and GKW Team lists are Looooooong overdue…
@GCollege86: Grens vs Nico will be a cracker. It will be interesting to see how this Selborne Collegians side goes against Nico as well.
@Knight_CHS07: I here the Selborne team will be called the Selborne Collegians. They will have 4 first team players in the squad. The rest of the team will be made up of mostly 2nd team and a few 3rd team players. Two of the 4 only started playing 1st team after the Grey Bloem game and the other 2 are in due to two of the 2nd team boys unable to play during this holiday. Still think they will be competitive and looking forward to some nice rugby. Think the Grens vs Nico Malan will be a good game.
@Playa: Yes they did. They are slow starters though, but once they get going…yho! kuqhuma i-tries isdala
@GCollege86: They’ll kill everyone. They beat the Cherries, right?
@Knight_CHS07: No news from Border. Schools must know because I had a look at the QC website and their boys are named on the website who made the teams.
@GCollege86: Interesting…i’ll be there Saturday, i want to see the Grens vs Nico Malan game…should be entertaining.
ANy news on the GW, CW and AW Border Team lists?
@Playa: I heard the Selborne 2nd team coach are going to try and field a team as close to the one that played against Grey Bloem. No Selborne CW players playing and Academy side has a rugby camp at the same time as tournament. It will still be a competitive side. I heard Grens will play all their CW players due to lack of game time. They had their last game against Selborne 2 weeks ago.
@GCollege86: Alright
@Knight_CHS07: thanks
@Playa: Selborne 2nd team will be playing at the festival.
@Playa: Now that you mention it, i’m actually not sure
…because these Selborne games are not listed on their website
@Knight_CHS07: Is this a 1st team festival?
Excuse my alignment , i tried my best
@GCollege86: Here are the fixtures for the Cambridge Rugby Festival, thanks to CHS08
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TB SCOTT FIELD TIME B FIELD
SELBORNE VS ITEMBELIHLE 9:00
WESTERING VS STIRLING 10:15 LINKSIDE VS GONUBIE
PORT REX VS GILL 11:30 PORT ALFRED
FAIRMONT VS DF MALHERBE 12:45
GRENS VS NICO MALAN 14:00
CAMBRIDGE VS MUIR 15:15
MONDAY:
TB SCOTT FIELD TIME B FIELD
GRENS VS MUIR 8:15 STIRLING VS GILL
PORT ALFRED VS LINKSIDE 9:25 PORT REX VS DF MALHERBE
SELBORNE VS NICO MALAN 10:35 GONUBIE VS ITEMBELIHLE
HANGKLIP VS WESTERING 11:45
FAIRMONT VS CAMBRIDGE 12:55
@GCollege 86 Just been on the QC website they have published their GW AW and GK week players. Hope to see the Selborne names soon.
@Knight_CHS07: Thanks.
@GCollege86: No sir, not yet. I/CHS08 will let you know once we have them
@Knight_CHS07: Do have or perhaps know where I can get a program of the games this weekend for the Cambridge Rugby Festival?
@Playa: I think so, some of those grade 11’s played u16A last year
@Knight_CHS07: I hope there are a lot of Grade 11s in that 2nd side.
@Playa: I hope so too. The Dale 2nd team is also good hey…
@GCollege86: Hopefully it wont just be the 1st team game that is closer in KWT
@star: Hahahaha! Eish…it happens to the best, hey.
@beet: Beet, they have 2 in back line nl. 9 & 13. They have 5 forwards in nl. their no. 3,4,5,6 & 8. A total of 7. Dont know how many will start for CW side. Their no 9 is the best no.9 in the Border and deserve to be in the team.
Selborne and Dale has 6 each in CW side.
@BoishaaiPa: Haha great story BHP. Sounds like my school sport experiences at the hands of Maritzburg College. Fortunately I have one memorable 4th team cricket win to fall back on and it was achieved on a College field as well – not Goldstones but same kind of grass, soil, crazy hot summer conditions. The pitch was more than likely prepared by the same groundsman
@GCollege86: Wow! 3 Grens boys in the backline. I wonder what the Grens Craven Week record representation is?
@GCollege86: Yes, that CHS no.8 is really good. Thanks for the effort
@Knight_CHS07: I just know who the back line is. The coach told me. All the boys in the team know already. The 22 CW players had a team practice yesterday. The academy side was also announced yesterday. I just know who the Selborne, Grens and some of the Dale boys are who made the team. I think the Cambridge no8 made the academy side but I think he is good enough to be in the CW side.
I might have the CW and Academy teams by tomorrow. I will send it to beat asap for him to post.
@star: We all know the feeling.@Knight_CHS07: BRU does not know if there should be a team or not,only know what time the lunch platters are delivered at the HQ .
@ Playa- the key is not to lose all your talented lighties to those 2 KXN schools.
Take heart in the fact that a very good KZN rugby school had a similar off day- average 42-5. 
@Playa:
Hundson Park is next on the Selbornian chop-block lol. Being a CHS old boy, you can only imagine how badly i want Selborne to run over Hudson lol
@GCollege86: Have they only released the backline? Any idea about the forwards and reserves? This is embarrasing to say thew least. Why is BRU delaying the team list?
@CHS08: Backline: 9. Engelbreght (Grens), 10 Steyn (Sel), 11 Jerry (QC), 12 Brits (Selb), 13 Brink (Grens), 14 Khuze (Dale), 15 Winnaar (Dale)
@GCollege86: Do u know the Border Craven Week starting 15??? When the hell is the Border Rugby Union releasing our youth week teams!!!!! Agg!
Credit to Dale who never gave up. A typical Selborne Dale derby. I had a chat to the dale boys yesterday at the Border practice. They are taking the loss like a man with no excuses.
Battered and broozed bodies on both sides.
Griffy did his homework and made sure Dale try and cut off Morgan from the rest of the backline. Dale defended well but one could see the tables turning in the second half when the Selborne forwards dominated.
Think it will be much closer and tougher next month in KWT.
@CHS08: On a positive note…Dale are the only Border team who has managed to keep Selborne’s score below 50 thus far
@QC 86: LMAO hahahahahaha what happened to those Grens okes??? Why is Selborne like this? They have humiliated every Border School thus far.
@QC86:
Hahahahaha! They’ve been very quiet indeed.
@QC86: The “Dream Team” (Grens) bloggers lol
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@Playa: All in good taste,at least you had the balls to get back on the blog after a beating,those Grens guys that blogged so much before the Selborne game have never been back
Gents Selborne humiliated Dale Saturday!!!! 612 against 87 yhuu!!! Those aren’t good results for a traditional boys school!!! I agree with Knight CHS 07, that Morgan Steyn is something else! What is he? If he doesn’t get picked for SA schools this year then I will know players in SA rugby are not chosen on merit!!!
@BoishaaiPa: Hahahaha! Tables turn I guess. Tough rugby lesson for the Dalians…hopefully motivation to do better in the return leg.
@QC86:
@QC86:
612 points??? yho!
This Selborne team is something else. Dale matched them in the first half and it seemed as if it was going to be a low scoring game. Morgan Steyn was impressive as usual, that boy converted a 52m penalty
goodness!!!
I was very impressed by the performance of both teams, Dale didn’t make it easy, not one bit. They (Dale) impressed me with their tackling, and defence. Selborne was just persistant…and we all know the outcome of persistance
and eventually broke the Dalian defence.
Points for 612 ,Points against 87= av score of 44-6 to Selborne
Playa i see Selborne shoved that big stick of yours right up where it fits best
played 14 won 14
Blood and broken bodies every where, a true derby day match, hard and unforgiving, I was sore just from watching. Both teams left some points out on the field. The flyhalf battle was the one I wanted to watch and I think it was a draw, not much between the two.
@Playa: In 1975 I played for De Malan u/11A…we played a midweek match agaimst Dale and won…the first ever game we won against Dale since u/9…We were balistic…and rejoiced…only to be told later it was Dale’s C team!…man what a comedown….I left King in 1976 never having won a game against a Dale A team!..Today you guys had a bad day against Selborne, but believe me..you have done it plenty times to others.
Selborne College vs Dale on 21 June 2014 at Selborne:
Selborne 1st Rugby XV beat Dale 1st XV (28-7)
Selborne 2nd Rugby XV beat Dale 2nd XV (35-17)
Selborne 3rd Rugby XV beat Dale 3rd XV (24-12)
Selborne 4th Rugby XV beat Dale 4th XV (52-5)
Selborne 5th Rugby XV beat Dale 5th XV (64-0)
Selborne U16 A Rugby XV beat Dale U16 A XV (56-3)
Selborne U16 B Rugby XV beat Dale U16 B XV (22-15)
Selborne U16 C Rugby XV beat Dale U16 C XV (61-0)
Selborne U15 A Rugby XV beat Dale U15 A XV (72-0)
Selborne U15 B Rugby XV beat Dale U15 B XV (31-21)
Selborne U15 C Rugby XV beat Dale U15 C XV (43-0)
Selborne U14 A Rugby XV beat Dale U14 A XV (21-7)
Selborne U14 B Rugby XV beat Dale U14 B XV (62-0)
Selborne U14 C Rugby XV beat Dale U14 C XV (41-0)
Played: 14, Won: 14
Selborne won 28 – 7
16a won 56-3
14a won 35 -7 I think
15a won 69-0
16a are up 42-3 with 8 minutes to play
Will be great if the results for the U14 A U 15 A and U16 A games can be posted as they become known , . All the best to the Selborne teams.
@Playa: hahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Morgan the past few weeks has been in a class of his own!!! That boy is a sublime rugby player. He was even the man of the match against Monument!
@beet: Eish! Not something I wanted to hear…rugby will be the winner. The thought of the Morgan Steyn/Courtney Winnaar battle makes me drool.
SELBORNA BABOONA! QUICK QUICK QUICK WITH A VERY BIG STICK TO CHASE AWAY THE BIG BABOON, Baboon, baboon!
AMADODA!
I must say I really enjoy the way the Selborne 10 & 12 inject pace for the running game on attack – the 10 really sets the tone here but both boys show a good appreciation of being able to offload accurately at high speed. I think the 13 is a bit underrated as well. At KERF I watched him making some very good tackles – he is definitely not shy to lead with his head and shoulder in contact situations.
@Dunlop: Totally agree
@Knight_CHS07: Thanks, could they not move the Bok game, for us to watch this one…..
@Dunlop: The derby will be at Selborne (East London) and the 1st XV game is at 15:00
Where and when are the First Teams playing?
@Playa: I noticed that too bra, Dale were to concerned with Jerry that they almost lost game.
Dale has heart and I admire that about them, all they need to do is go out there and play…that’s it…PLAY! If they play their natural game they will cause a lot of problems, just like they did on the “Matress”
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But then again, Selborne won’t make it easy for them…no sir they won’t. The Selborne team(1st XV), know that this is their year to dominate the EC once again, and will use this game to send a message to Queen’s and GreyPE.
All the best to the boys tomorrow, and may the better team win
Good Lord this game is going to be a great game
@Knight_CHS07: I watched the game in KWT last year. Dale was tactically dumb, and I agree, they needed Griffy’s brains for that game as well. They should have won. The only tactic they got right was sterilising Gosa. Selborne, also tactically dumb, just kept on making Gosa play all the rugby. The winner was decided when Selborne decided not to involve him, and Dale were left clueless. Painful match to watch.
Dale almost made a similar error against Queens this year by focusing on Jerry Danquah…they fortunately woke up early on…then lost it again…and thank goodness for forward passes we sneaked through
@Mike: @QC86: Dale’s forwards have stood their own ground this year, small as they are. But Mike’s got a point, should Selborne dominate upfront, those backs will humiliate ours…for a change Selborne has an effective backline beyond number 10.If the forwards match each other…the backline battle will be made of awesomeness!Admittedly, Selborne have the upper hand, but if heart has ever been important for Dale, tomorrow is where it will matter most.
@QC86: No not that kind of rugby, I agree, Selborne rugby has progressed massively this year. What I mean is that Selborne are physically a big side and they will use that from the forwards to the backs. Dale have to be careful at ruck time. If they don’t get stuck in physically they’ll be in for a long day.
@Mike: Selborne aren’t playing that type of dumb rugby this year,new ass coach has opened a new book,old channel one ball thankfully something of the past ,but it will still be a massive game and i think it could go either way,if the game was been played in King tomorrow i would be very afraid.
Think Selborne will try bully the Dale team and it might be effective but if Dale have most of the ball possession things could get very interesting.
@Playa: I was expecting the “My year” part LOL. WOW! The competition is tight, Dale is no pushover i’ll tell you that.
I think if Griffy was incharge last year, Dale would’ve had a double over SC. The 2013 Dale team, had a rough season but when they played SC in East London…they played as a unit. It was a 50/50 game, no one could’ve predicted the end result.
@Knight_CHS07:
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1998: SC won 26-3 & 26-6
1999: DC won 17-0 & 26-8
2000: DC won 40-19 & 18-8 (MY YEAR
2001: SC won 22-13 (first loss at reunion vs Selborne since 1983) & 18-3
2002: DC won 18-12 & SC won 10-3
2003: SC won 3-0 & 42-0
2004: DC won 25-18 & SC won 15-7
2005: DC won 8-7 & SC won 20-0
2006: DC won 9-8 & SC won 23-5
2007: SC won 52-15 (biggest reunion loss ever) & 57-18
2008: SC won 17-12 & 33-17
2009: SC won 17-15 & 23-15
2010: DC won 22-15 (my 10 year reunion) & SC won 14-9
2011: SC won 27-9 & 31-19
2012: DC won 10-9 & 12-7
2013: SC won25-22 & 24-21
P 32 DCW 12 SCW 20
@QC86: @Knight_CHS07: Agree with with you both. This game has the makings of a real cracker and Dale have a chance. Have seen both sides play this year and both have impressed. Lately though, Selborne seem to have reached another gear altogether.
@Playa: Do you have the 1st XV rugby results of Selborne vs Dale from 1998 – 2006? If you do please post them sir
@Playa: I agree with you 100% on “unpredictability “. The last time Selborne played Dale the match ended with 2 or 3 points being the difference between the two teams.
I expect nothing less than 100% perfomance from both schools in all the teams. Rugby will again prove to be the winner on the day
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@QC86: Haven’t seen this team play, but from what I hear, they are the closest thing to the 1998 team…which is dangerous.The beauty of a derby is the unpredictability of a winner.
@Queenian: I hope you’re right.
This has all the makings of a great game.I’m seriously bleeding for missing it.
The one thing you guys are all missing is that this bunch of boys are not like the Selborne boys of the past.There are no issues with this group,they play as one ,are very positive,none of the old biceps before points mentality of past teams,i can assure you they will not take Dale lightly,that said all Selborne teams never seem to play well against Dale.
@Dave41: I’m with you on this one. Having said that though…i’m not counting out Dale.
Selborne should take this, but if they dont give 100% Dale will make them pay.
Playa now Rudi son is not playing we can say anything.
Playa mark my words Dale will burst the Selborne bubble this weekend.
Please Dale make my weekend one thing you learn’t at QC was never lose to Dale but in all other games you support them 100%, two schools with the same back ground and ethos.