Wildeklawer 2014: Day 2 Squads, Results

30 April, 2014 beet Squads 66

The team sheets and players points for Day 2 of Wildeklawer courtesy of Diamantveld and the organisers of the Wildeklawer Skouspel

BOLAND LANDBOU 11 12 HTS MIDDELBURG
1 Bertus Smith Neven Nel 1
2 Eduard Snyman Walter 2
3 Tristan Hill Kyle van Aswegen 3
4 Joppie du Pisanie Dehan Opperman 4
5 Gerhard du Toit (K) Driaan Bester 5
6 Dawid Labuschagne Chrisjan Steynberg 6
7 Heinrich Meyer Bernard Kotzenberg 7
8 Slabber la Grange Derik Willemse 8
9 Jondre Williams 2P Brandon Par-Bailey 9
10 Luke Philander Lohan Bennett 10
11 Lourens van Dyk Jan Rens 11
12 Danrich Visagie Ruan Groenewald 12
13 Carlton Fortune Jacques Du Toit 13
14 JT Potgieter Liaan Prinsloo 14
15 MC Erasmus 4P Barend Smit 15
16 Hugo Vlok Gerik Mynhardt 16
17 Gerald Evert Ruan Luddick 17
18 Johan Lubbe Steven Stols 18
19 Jandre Maree Marco Maré 19
20 Conrad Fourie Eric Basson 20
21 Eric Vincent Stephan Enslin 21
22 Sergull van Niekerk 1T Rynhardt Van As 22
OUTENIQUA 20 15 GLENWOOD
1 Andrew Kuhn 1T Kenny van Nieker 1
2 Riaan Kleyn Percy Mngadi 2
3 Wynand De Necker Koos Terdoux 3
4 Anton Smit Kevin Du Randt 4
5 Eduard Zandberg Ruan Desmore 5
6 Christopher Roelofse 1T James Venter 6
7 Pieter Steenkamp 1T McMillan Muller 7
8 Le roux Baard Marco Palvie 8
9 Derrick Minnie Kwazikwenkosi Khanyile 9
10 Keenen Tarentaal Curtis Jonas 10
11 Niven Langdown 1T Philani Ngcobo 11
12 JP Duvenhage Ruben Fouche 12
13 Manie Libbok 1C Spamandla Ngcobo 13
14 Curtley Prins Ilunga Mukendi 14
15 Corne De Klerk 1T Morne Joubert 15
16 Stefan Gerber Peter-John Kobbie 16
17 Roux Swart Chrisopher Klopper 17
18 Neil otto Nama Xaba 18
19 Sarel van Loggenberg Dylan Bridger 19
20 Clayton Kiewietz Donovan Du Randt 20
21 Steffen De Beer Ruan Van Rensburg 21
22 Logan Stoffels Jayden Morgan 22
Penalty Try 1T
EG JANSEN 10 30 PAUL ROOS
1 Rouxbann Baumann Carl Prinsloo 1
2 Nico Peyper Jacques van Zyl 2
3 Armand Jordaan Christiaan Hamman 3
4 Quinton van der Schyff Louis Conradie 4
5 Hendre Stassen Emile Cloete 5
6 Edwin Jansen Jacques Oosthuizen 6
7 Dillan Robus Dean van Tonder 7
8 Warren Brits Michael Meyer 8
9 Charl Barkhuizen 1T Calvin Nell 9
10 Forrest Roos 1C 1T2P2C Reinhardt Fortuin 10
11 Xander Crause Edwill van der Merwe 11
12 Delano Kotze 1P Edrich Venter 12
13 Erich Cronje Matthew Gallow 13
14 Juan Botha 1T Nico Leonard 14
15 Martin van Wyk 1T Aidynn Cupido 15
16 Brandon-Lee Hayward Robert Matthee 16
17 Morne Taute Muammir Salie 17
18 Eben Buitendag Jerome Korf 18
19 Dylan van der Walt D Castelyn 19
20 Jonathan Strydom R Burger 20
21 Ivan Ali 1T Herschel Jantjies 21
22 Marco Niemand Morne Taljaard 22
23 Esuan van Niekerk
DROSTDY 29 35 WILDEKLAWER SARU
1 Roy Brink Zavian Claassen
2 Tiaan Smuts Iver Aanhuizen
3 Robert Hunt Leighton Bell
4 MC Haggard Gillroy Farmer
5 Willem Augustyn Shaquille Adams
6 Evan Booysen 3C3P Dennis Cox
7 Jurie Fick Tyron Jacobs
8 Edward Haas Eldrin van Rooyen
9 Alberto dos Santos Daniel Joubert
10 Wynand Roets 1T1C4P Carlton Goodman
11 Marnu Bartels 1T William Seegers
12 Bernito McPherson 1T Romano Collins
13 Frikkie Badenhorst Randall Louw
14 Gevin Scheepers Garron Kulsen
15 Earl Dowrie  Elroy Gevelaar
16 Zandré Fernhout 1T 3T Conal Brown
17 Kobus Roux Tyler Jacobs
18 Emile Opperman Nzondelelo Zayedwa
19 Ruhan Marais Alexandro Daniels
20 Jason Howells Wilbur Julies
21 Carel Kotze Earl Adonis
22 André Swanepoel Subair Khan
23 Theodore Pienaar Carlton Arendse
24 Jevon Anderson
25 Solwyn Manchest
26 Rameon Daniels
27 Dillon Bartie
28 Carlyle Kearns
MARITZBURG COLLEGE 21 9 DIAMANTVELD
1 Tiaan Steyn Werner Goosen 1
2 Masikane Mazwi Brandon Smith 2
3 Disi Dlamini Nathun Christiaans 3
4 Wian Jacobs Dwayne Botma 4
5 Kelvin van Selm JD Fourie 5
6 Hayden Tharratt Janco Cloete 6
7 Renard le Roux 2T Nardus Bosman 7
8 Darryn Goodson Johan Joubert 8
9 Mathew Seba Jannes Wessels 9
10 Mac van der Linde 3P Gerco Nortje 10
11 Byron Watson JP Abrahams 11
12 Tristan Hanlon JD Swanepoel 12
13 Marcell Coetsee 3C Nico Roets 13
14 Byron Watson 1T Deon Greyvenstein 14
15 Brandon Holder Keaton Gordon 15
16 Samuel Swanepoel John Duncan Vertue 16
17 Slade Stuart Michael Rodirigues 17
18 Corne van der Merwe 18
19 Kelton Thunder Vannas Herholdt 19
20 Mathew Kriel Malan le Roux 20
21 Kudzai Munangi JP Roets 21
22 Jean de Wet Marno Willemse 22
23 Tanaka Chikwezvero Henri Rossouw 23
OAKDALE 10 21 AFFIES
1 Chrisjan du Toit DP du Plessis 1
2 Cian Waggenaar Ramon Viviers 2
3 Marcel Barnard Reinhardt Goosen 3
4 André Smit Ruben van Heerden 4
5 Stephan Streicher Juan Basson 5
6 Bertie de Bod 1T Gavin Foster 6
7 Armand Heunis Vic Meyer 7
8 Renaldo Ferreira Ruan Roelofse 8
9 Maurice White Carlo de Nysschen 9
10 Boeta Hamman 1T 1T2C Dale Hendricks 10
11 JP Coetzee 1T Janco Booysen 11
12 JT Jackson Eddie Fouché 12
13 Kurt Eybers Tiaan Schmullian 13
14 DC Gilliomee 1C,1P Pieter Coetzer 14
15 Ruan Barnard Eduan Keyter 15
16 HP van Schoor Jano Espag 16
17 SW Odendaal Viaan Mong 17
18 Piet Gouws Louis de Jongh 18
19 Eckard Leicher Human Bodenstein 19
20 William Eybers Eduan Lubbe 20
21 Divan Henning 21
22 Ryno Lourens 22
23 Henco Jordaan 23
GREY PE 24 39 WATERKLOOF
1 Mathew Howes Basil Polydorou 1
2 Robin Stevens Roan Venter 2
3 Dylan Barendse JD Burger 3
4 Michael de Marco Tiaan Erasmus 4
5 Junior Pokomela Lezar Botha 5
6 Johann van Niekerk 1T Stian Smit 6
7 Kavan Trezbiatowsky 3T Juandré Michau 7
8 Joshua Mudrovcic JP Snyman 8
9 Brody van Goerveden Jeanré Pieterse 9
10 Curvin Bosch 1T4C2P Tinus De Beer 10
11 Nathan Brown Dewald Lindeque 11
12 Jeremy Ward 1T Janneman Malan 12
13 Keanu Vers Stedman Gans 13
14 Athi Mayinje 1T Dewald Fourie 14
15 Garrick Mattheus 2C Wilbri Gunter 15
16 Wahl Enslin Jeandré Jones 16
17 Keegan Branford Chergin Fillies 17
18 Joe Rooyakkels Neels Schoeman 18
19 Mathew Lawson 1T Francois Karg 19
20 Paul Briggs Corné Schoeman 20
21 Richie Bryant Berco Venter 21
22 Mo Connelly 1T Runan Venter 22
23 Jean Henning 23
1 NOORD-KAAP 12 13 KING EDWARD
2 Qama Hina J Glass 1
3 AD van Zyl N du Plessis 2
4 Doc Booysen M Macheke 3
5 Bradley Leijdekkers S Mkhize 4
6 Rikus Zwart 1T D Botha 5
7 Pieter Oosthuizen M Marussi 6
8 Thulani Njenje B O’Donoghue 7
9 Hannes Jacobs 1T J Mills 8
10 Brandon De Melim N Mathaba 9
11 Robbie Petzer 1C B Wright 10
12 Austen Jooste 1T M Mbatha 11
13 Gerhard Holtshausen 1P T De Zorzi 12
14 Siyambuka Lawu P Moshikaro 13
15 leon Becker K Maphate 14
16 Wilfred Bowers 1C1P R Fuller 15
17 Geo Davel J Mattheus 16
18 Damian vd Berg K Mills 17
19 Wilbritte Uys M Mpato 18
20 Lukas Oberholster J Da Silva 19
21 Daniello Huyster J Bryan 20
22 Thomas Fortuin S Champion 21
23 Tyron Scholtz B Naude 22
24 Morene Steynmann
25 Duan Steenkamp
26 Lihan Viljoen
MONUMENT 23 23 SELBORNE
1 Kevin Booth Skye Bawden 1
2 Vean Roodt Grant Venter 2
3 Jaco Holtzhausen Tango Balekile 3
4 Rhyno Herbst Daniel Froneman 4
5 Reinhardt Nothnagel Robert Lyons 5
6 Gavin Delport 2T Adrian Greig 6
7 Len Massyn Lutho Selem 7
8 Juan Lemmer Jason Steyn 8
9 Stef Fitzgerald Sibahle Dunjana 9
10 Wikus van Biljon 2C3P 2C3P Morgan Steyn 10
11 Goodman Mkwanazi Milani Lubelwana 11
12 Ernst Beumer 1T David Brits 12
13 Ashley Carr Jacinto Da Silva 13
14 Odwa Nkujane 1T Tristian Coetzer 14
15 Ivan Smit Liam McLoughllin 15
16 Justin Branden Cole van Tonder 16
17 Jaco Smith Daniel Voigt 17
18 Tiaan van Wyk Gregg Shean 18
19 Henro Liebenberg Heinrich Nieuwenhuizen 19
20 Jacques Joubert Joshua Allderman 20
21 Stian Joubert Michael Botha 21
22 Armandt Grobler Brandon Perks 22
23 Terence Bosman
1 PAARL GIM 14 15 GREY COLLEGE
1 Gavin vd Berg Callie van Vuuren 1
2 Marco Mostert JC vav Vuuren 2
3 Adriaan Geldenhuys Janu Botha 3
4 Jaco Willemse Jurie Burger 4
5 Ernst van Rhyn Kassel Rothman 5
6 Dieter Leicher De Wet Bezuidenhoudt 6
7 Waldo Macdonald 1T Henry Slabbert 7
8 HJ Luus 1T Alex Jonker 8
9 Zandré de Koker Dian Badenhorst 9
10 Walter Smit 2C Dwayne Wessels 10
11 Grant Williams Glen Erickson 11
12 Willie Smal Mike Anndrade 12
13 Taigh Schoor 1T Neil Stannard 13
14 Leaviel Gouws Lourens Steenkamp 14
15 Paul Human 1T 1C1P Henry Immelman 15
16 Daniel Rust 16
17 Raynard Esterhuizen 17
18 Hennie Beukes Janco van Tonder 18
19 Jacques du Preez 19
20 CJ Lotter 20
21 PR Serfontein 21
22 Dawid Snyman 22

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66 Comments

  1. avatar
    #66 Playa

    @BOG: Team full of Doogie Howsers I see :mrgreen:

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    3 May, 2014 at 08:07
  2. avatar
    #65 Woltrui

    @boxkick: Kloof het aan die Tuks reeks onttrek omrede hulle te veel wedstryde per jaar gespeel het. Die kinners was voos gespeel.

    Onthou die Tuks reeks is nie net ‘n rugby reeks nie. Die skole kompiteer in rugby, hokkie, tennis, landloop, skaak ens. Die meisies en seuns van die skool word dus betrek by die toernooi. Ideaal vir seuns en meisies skole.

    Nog steeds de moer in na die vergelyking van Fred Zelinga met die koning Pollard :evil: Miskien was dit die rede waarom ek gedag het jy is van die last outpost. Wie steun jy met die Grogper Cup? Noord-Vaal of Charkies?? :wink:

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    2 May, 2014 at 17:52
  3. avatar
    #64 Andre T

    @boxkick: Kom ek se vir jou wat is die verskil…………………..in die interbasaarskole games gaan die verloorder nie huistoe nie.

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    2 May, 2014 at 14:45
  4. avatar
    #63 Andre T

    @boxkick: Verduidelik stap vir stap asb vir my daai moerse verskil?

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    2 May, 2014 at 14:44
  5. avatar
    #62 boxkick

    @djou – jammer…baie jammer hoor…
    @woltrui – jy is 100% reg…laat EG maar speel waar hulle speel en die tuks reeks gebruik as hulle premier toernooi…hulle sal bly waar hulle is en dis dit…ek srty nie met jou nie maar sou graag die ouens wou sien verbeter en al hoe jy dit doen is deur strawwer kompetiesie…wonder hoekom kloof ontrek het uit tuks reeks…seker maar ook om al hulle spanne speelkans te gee…een fact bly staan…daar is n moerse verskil tussen interskole en tuks reeks, se maar net…

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    2 May, 2014 at 14:08
  6. avatar
    #61 Hilty

    @BOG: Not impossible,after all the boys are known to have a couple of over aged kids in times gone by.
    Who knows maybe they can pull one over GCB u14 this year.

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    2 May, 2014 at 12:02
  7. avatar
    #60 BOG

    @Hilty: One school in Durban, I believe, have 13 Gr 11s in their team- their U14 side !!

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    2 May, 2014 at 11:54
  8. avatar
    #59 Hilty

    I can only talk on behalf of Kzn u13 CW side from 2009, from that team there are 14 boys that I know of representing their schools 1st teams in Kzn this year and 4 are captaining their teams.
    Sure there are number of them that get lost along the way,of the 5 boys that went to GW only 1 plays 1st now.
    As a whole I think this is proof that u13 CW can work for alot of schools and boys alike.

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    2 May, 2014 at 11:53
  9. avatar
    #58 Hilty

    Hilton is in the same position this year with 11 gr11 in the team and 7 gr11 in the starting 15.
    Last year there were only 3 gr11 in the 1st team squad.Looking good for 2015.

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    2 May, 2014 at 11:31
  10. avatar
    #57 Playa

    @Tjoppa: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    2 May, 2014 at 10:04
  11. avatar
    #56 Tjoppa

    @Playa: Maybe mr T forgot his password. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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    2 May, 2014 at 10:00
  12. avatar
    #55 Playa

    @Andre T: Hahahaha! The Big and Bad Stassen Boksburger! Register that and Spur will give you a juicy pay cheque to use it.

    I have no idea what happened to Skim. He disappeared when the good old 365 days turned bad. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s out surfing and having a jol at Eastern Beach with mates from Mdantsane.

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    2 May, 2014 at 09:50
  13. avatar
    #54 Andre T

    @Playa: I think 11 of their team still in grade 11. Next year might be the year of the Boksburger. Spur should run a special next year.

    The Big and Bad Stassen Boksburger

    What happened to your big buddy Skim?

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    2 May, 2014 at 09:06
  14. avatar
    #53 Playa

    Give credit where it’s due. KES a few years back was taking slack for having great seasons, but some smart @sses thought they should rather scrap traditional fixtures and play the top dogs or add the top dogs to their fixture list.Now EG is being pounded. Come now. The Boksburgers are doing well, they are playing tough opposition, they have a heavy schedule. Look at their results and who they’ve played this year. To want schools to prove themselves by setting up fixtures that re logistically impossible for the sake of satisfying our ranking systems is unfair.

    Well done EG on making such success from very little. If anything, I hope you guys tone it down a notch or two. These boys still need to fit in a bit of study time in between :mrgreen:

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    2 May, 2014 at 09:00
  15. avatar
    #52 Hanswors

    @valke:I see that EG is not the only school that have played a lot of matches the last couple of weeks. It is time for you guys to decide what is more important , battered boys or less rugby! Unfortunately most of the rugby is scheduled for the first 6 weeks of the season.

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    1 May, 2014 at 22:51
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    #51 Ploegskaar

    @Woltrui: Daai pissies het julle darem hard gemoer by CW laasjaar. Of gaan ons dit nie as maatstaf gebruik nie? Al wat sag is hier in die Kaap is die gras ou maat :mrgreen:

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    1 May, 2014 at 21:10
  17. avatar
    #50 Woltrui

    @Ploegskaar: Ploegie. Wees nou eerlik. Ons almal weet die visvoete is n klomp pissies. 8)

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    1 May, 2014 at 20:26
  18. avatar
    #49 Ploegskaar

    @kosie: Daar is geen twyfel dat die NV Liga tans besonder sterk is nie, maar ten beste is dit huidiglik steeds hoogstens op par met die WK Liga, wat histories nie die geval was nie. Paarl Gim, Boishaai, Paul Roos (3 sg. Superskole), Boland Landbou, Outeniqua, Oakdale, Drostdy, Bishops, Wynberg, Rondebosch, SACS en Tygerberg speel weekliks teen mekaar hieronder so daar is geen maklike wedstryde nie. Die krag van die NV skole is beslis prysenswaardig, maar kom ons kyk of hulle dit kan volhou, soos wat elke jaar die geval in die WK is.

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    1 May, 2014 at 19:46
  19. avatar
    #48 kosie

    @Woltrui: I agree with you regarding the strength of Noord Vaal schools. Lets take Eldoraigne whom are playing for 7 or 8 in the Tuks Series. They beat Hentie Cilliers with a score of 47 21. They also beat the other power house Marlow yet in the leagues they struggle as they play ALL the big schools in Pta. So too we can include Transvalia, Kempton Park etc. They will give the majority of KZN schools a very hard time. The strength of the NV schools is the strongest as a region if you include all schools

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    1 May, 2014 at 18:47
  20. avatar
    #47 valke

    @boxkick: not really sure what you suggest.
    They wanted to join the Lions league, but this was blocked. They can not get annual fixtures against your super schools, because they do not have enough teams, or so the story goes.
    They only get the opportunity to play these schools at the big festivals and will not turn these down, so a shorter fixture list is not possible.

    Well done E.G. Definately punching above your weight, with great success !

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    1 May, 2014 at 18:35
  21. avatar
    #46 valke

    @Woltrui: I agree with you !

    The E.G boys are battered and bruised and does not want to see a rugby field this week.

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    1 May, 2014 at 18:29
  22. avatar
    #45 Woltrui

    Beet maybe we can have a team of the month thread during the rugga season?? My vote will definitely go to the Boksburg laaities of EG Jansen for April 2014. Those guys had one hell of a tough month and mostly (apart from the big loss againt Paul Roos) sucsesfull. Against vely vely good opposition.

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    1 May, 2014 at 18:18
  23. avatar
    #44 Woltrui

    @boxkick: Hahahahaha!! sorry Boxkick. You are right. I did think you are from KZN. Thought you were a Charkies blogger and we know how much they know about rugga 8-O :mrgreen:
    1. Affies didn’t withdraw from the Tuks reeks or Beeld trophy because off the quality of the league. They withdrew because the “win at all cost” attitude became to strong between the schools partaking in this “league’s”. The year Affies withdrew, I think it was 2007, they played Kloof 4 times, winning 2 and losing 2, but it was like war at the schools and in Pretoria.
    2. In my opinion the top 8 of, for example the Tuks reeks, is top notch rugby schools in SA. Apart from Affies and Kloof(who is part of the Beeld trophy)definitely the best rugby schools in Noord Vaal.
    3. Jansies is to small to have interschools with the likes of Maritzburrow or Grey Bloem and would not play interschools against them.
    4. Logistically it is impossible to play the “Super schools” you mentioned, of whom only one, Affies, is based in Gauteng, on a week in and week out basis. Thus they must play the best in the province and that they do, even if they are smaller than the most macro schools.
    You’s NV English okes are underestimating the strength of theTuks reeks and Beeld trophy. To give you an idea. EG Jansen won Nelspruit 24 – 15 in the semi final of the Tuks reeks. 14 Of their points came when Nellies had a player yellow carded and had only 14 men on the field. In my opinion that illustrate how competitive the Tuks reeks is. I think Jansies have only once win the Beeld and once the Tuks reeks. Personally I think the Jansies management must rather look to scale down their programme.

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    1 May, 2014 at 18:09
  24. avatar
    #43 Djou

    @Box: If you ask Beet nicely, he might post your comment on the Netball thread – where it belongs.
    But just in case – if you didn’t know, Affies withdrew from the Tuks-reeks to provide all their teams a chance to play. In the Tuks-reeks, only A and B teams participate.
    In terms of the Beeld-trophy, again, in case you didn’t know, teams play according to the number of learners in a league – therefore EG Jansen don’t have a choice, they must play against Die Anker.
    And perhaps if you make the time, come and watch e.g. Waterkloof vs Garsies – also thousands of people watching. But it is clear you don’t know these things – otherwise you wouldn’t have made the uninformed comments.

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    1 May, 2014 at 18:05
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    #42 Gungets Tuft

    @boxkick: “Weaker” schools in KZN might be, for now, Northwood, DHS, St Charles, George Campbell, and yes, College play them annually (I think St Charles is skipped this year). Others like Voortrekker play our seconds. I say “weaker” only in the context of this discussion because very recent history has taught the KZN Tier 1 schools to be very wary of those 4, and know their time is coming as well. Can see it right now with NW, DHS (younger age groups looking promising).

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    1 May, 2014 at 17:56
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    #41 BOG

    @boxkick: I fully agree with you. CW started off as a great concept, but has been hi-jacked by politics and people with inflated egos. Most acknowledge this and CW is no longer seen as a show case for true strength. Festivals like WK and KERF, is a much better and accurate platform. It largely explains the high attrition rate through all the age levels- bad for SA rugby.@OudUppie: Dit is altyd nat op Brugstraat. As die reen nie uit die wolke kom nie, kom dit uit die sproeiers, maar nat sal dit wees. Jy vat of Wellies, of n sambreel saam, of beide

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    1 May, 2014 at 17:49
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    #40 boxkick

    @woltrui – Jansen play Die Anker in a beeld fixture….in case you didn’t know and you cant tell me that the ones aside from Monnas and to a lesser extent Waterkloof(who moved away from the nupower) that you mentioned are exactly the pride of schoolboy rugby in this country…then ask yourself why affies don’t play in this “league” and while you at it also ask yourself why majority has an intersest of the outcome and the contents of a game between say GIM and PRG or AFFIES and Boys High or Glenwood and College to mention a few…all of which are broadcast on TV nogal…You take it that I am from KZN…sorry to disappoint you but I am not…JHB for me thank you…I know for a fact the “superschools” in most cases play their seconds as firsts and b teams as a teams against weaker opposition…

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    1 May, 2014 at 17:08
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    #39 Woltrui

    @boxkick: Apart from die Anker, whom Jansies must have played as a warm up match before the Tuks reeks, do you suggest then Centurion, Nelspruit, HTS Middelburg, Garsfontein, Monnas Kempton Park and Waterkloof etc is the “below par schools they play week in and week out”? Apart from Affies all the other TOP Noord Vaal Schools is playing in afore mentioned leagues. I suppose it is not possible for any school in South Africa to play the “super schools” on a week in and out basis. I take it in KZN the likes of Glenwood and Maritzburrow also play the local – below “super school” :oops: standard – teams and thus also not playing against your top schools every week.

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    1 May, 2014 at 16:48
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    #38 boxkick

    @woltrui – gladly…but firstly, they should get to play the likes of GCB, PRG, Glenwood, Boys High, Gim etc on a yearly basis not by invitation only…secondly you forgot to include DIE ANKER in BRAPAN to the list and lastly…Kempton/ Centurion/ Vereeniging Gim/ Nelspruit and Die Anker would hardly form part of the Super Schools as it is known…I think you missing the point in that I don’t think they are too bad but just that they would have to perform and get results on a more regular basis against tougher opposition as apposed to putting 50+ points past their rivals in the nu power and local valke league matches and that that is the only way one could more accurately say whether they are good or not and I also believe that it would do so much more for their development…I for one would love to see them in an interschools type set up against say GCB/ AFFIES/ MONNAS( although they do seem to play them in nu power if the chips fall in favour of it)/ GLENWOOD/ MARITZBURG COLLEGE etc…I hope you see my point and don’t take it that I am knocking them but rather looking at ways for them to improve…

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    1 May, 2014 at 16:19
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    #37 Ploegskaar

    Baie trots op die jong Boland manne wat met durf teen twee sterk skole by WK gespeel het. Gister het net ‘n strafskop mis op die sirene julle ‘n groot wen teen HTSM gekos, hou aan leer en verbeter, volgende jaar is julle 11 gr11’s hardebaarde. Sien uit na die res van die seisoen, julle sal binnekort die bons van die bal kry.

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    1 May, 2014 at 15:38
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    #36 OudUppie

    @bhkgpa: Ek weet dis wat julle bestel, maar kom nou – rugby op ‘n droe veld is altyd meer aanskoulik :lol: Neewat ons vat hom soos hy kom. As jy nr 1 wil wees moet jy almal onder enige toestande kan wen.

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    1 May, 2014 at 14:33
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    #35 bhkgpa

    @OudUppie: koud en nat :)

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    1 May, 2014 at 14:29
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    #34 Woltrui

    @boxkick: EG Jansen’s program this year look as follow:
    HTS Middelburg
    Centurion
    Vereeniging Gim
    Hoerskool Nelspruit
    Grey Bloem
    Glenwood
    Kearsney
    Grey PE
    Paul Roos
    The following matches must still be played:
    Final of Tuks reeks:
    HTS Middelburg
    Beeld trophy for Macro Schools: Noord Vaal(NV):
    Kempton Park
    There after a couple of the following NV Macro schools in the Beeld trophy:
    Garsfontein, Waterkloof, Menlopark, HTS Middelburg, Nelspruit, Monnas.
    Can you please point out the “other sub par schools they play week in and week out”?

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    1 May, 2014 at 14:28
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    #33 OudUppie

    Ek het gister die voorreg gehad om die Selborne vs Monnas en GreyC vs Gim wedstryde te kyk en wat ‘n advert vir SA skool rugby. Jammer die Grey vs Gim wedstryd moes op ‘n lae noot eindig met twee seuns wat op draagbare van die veld is. Grey vs Selborne op 17 Mei behoort ‘n baie goeie wedstryd te wees – Selborne agterlyn is baie gevaarlik en as hulle genoeg balbesit kry kan hulle dinge vir Grey moeilik maak. Sien uit na die inters – hoop net dis droog in die Paarl die 24st.

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    1 May, 2014 at 14:22
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    #32 rbw1863

    @BoishaaiPa: Hear hear. U13 Craven Week makes very little sense to me.

    I understand the logic behind your idea and think there are a lot of good things that could come from it, however would that not create a few issues? Would the U13 pool of players not just make it easy pickings for the big recruiting high schools in each region as they would take the cream of the crop of these “squads” each year and centralize the best talent of each age group in a sense. Like Grasshopper says, majority of a boys rugby development takes place in high school so maybe it would be a better idea to do it after the u14 season when there is no provincial competition? I like your idea, just a thought that maybe u13 is not the year.

    Another thought – If there was no craven week at u13 level and there was no such squad, it would make it a lot more difficult for the big guns in each province to identify talent and recruit. This would create far more competitive matches in the local season I would think and eventually a stronger provincial outfit and not half the team being made up of players from one school. (A pet hate of mine)

    Well done on boishaai in Japan btw. Making us proud!

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    1 May, 2014 at 14:07
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    #31 boxkick

    @Mikest – EG will then be a force to be reckoned with next year…and the year after that? The lock with the white scrum hat is a great talent, I just wonder if he will be able to really develop in the Valke playing other sub standard schools week in and week out…would like to see him in action in bigger games week in and week out…he could be the next Pieter Steph…if he is managed, developed correctly and exposed to the right things…

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    1 May, 2014 at 13:38
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    #30 boxkick

    @ BOG/ PROndersteuner/ BHP and all – The reason a lot of these CW u/13 never make it any further than just that is because of the pre negotiated selections that goes into selecting a side to play at this tournament, I was astonished a couple of weeks ago at one of these trials to hear two teachers(selectors) negotiate with each other on who to select, it was a sort of offset agreement based on the one guy have a certain player but was not there to select for those positions and the other did but had a player he wanted in the squad as well….put 2 and two together and go figure who got selected…and this I believe even happens at highschool CW level…these very same teachers are the ones who select SA Schools etc and as we all know, there is an unwritten rule in SA rugby that if you make SA Schools you must make it further on…

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    1 May, 2014 at 13:33
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    #29 BOG

    @BoishaaiPa: Nou onthou ek, dit was teen Monnas, waar hulle 17-0 voor was, maar toe verloor het. Ter versagtend egter, het die kaptein en n paar ander halftyd, die veld verlaat. So, dit is verblydend dat dinge hierdie naweek reg gestel is

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    1 May, 2014 at 13:28
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    #28 Andre T

    @BOG: Moenie vergeet om vanaand EFC Afrika te kyk nie. Jy sal my sien, eks een van die ouens wat die vaseline aan die krygers se oogbanke smeer.

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    1 May, 2014 at 13:25
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    #27 bhkgpa

    @Predator: hoeveel van hierdie jaar se kwagga span het in graad 8 na kwaggas toe gekom en hoeveel daarna? Ek weet van n hele paar in huidige eerstespan wat nie van graad 8 af daar was nie. Ek sê dis verkeerd nie maar dis nie net eie talent nie.

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    1 May, 2014 at 13:24
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    #26 Andre T

    @BoishaaiPa: Nee wat, nie so baie water nie. Die riviere is droog.

    Ek merk Grey se 0/15’s het Monnas s’n net net iets soos 20-8 gewen en julle het ons 40-0 gewen, so ek voorspel 28-0 vir HJS se 0/15’s.

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    1 May, 2014 at 13:16
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    #25 BoishaaiPa

    @BOG: Nie heeltemal korrek met die 0/14 telling van verlede jaar nie…ons was 0-6 agter halftyd..en wen to 46-6. Maar daar het heelwat water in die see geloop sederdien!..Dis n nuwe jaar met nuwe uitdagings en spanne kan nie staatmaak op wat hulle in die verlede reggekry het nie.

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    1 May, 2014 at 13:08
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    #24 BOG

    @BoishaaiPa: Nee, ek aanvaar dit dan so. Ek het die uitslag teen Newton gesien, maar ongeag die uitlag, di te verstane dat die prestasies op laer vlak, minder konsekwent sal wees. Interessant wees om te sien wat gaan gebeur tussen die O15s van julle en GCB. Di mos die wedstryd, verlede jaar, waar Grey 17-0 voorgeloop het met halftyd, maar toe uiteindelik 17-34 verloor het. (Weet nie of ek my feite reg het nie)@Andre T: Toe ek die “team sheets” sien, was ek aanvanklik verward. My eerste indrukke was dat al die spelers met n “T ” agter hulle naam, moontlik jou kinders kon wees. Dit is as al jou storietjies hier geglo moet word. Maar toe besef ek dat dit staan vir “Try”. Jy moet ook maar aanvaar dat op jou ouderdom, moet mens maar die inname van verversings drasties inkort, anders kan dit jou oorplasing na die intensiewe sorgeenheid, aansienlik vervroeg.

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    1 May, 2014 at 12:51
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    #23 Grey Brak

    @BoishaaiPa: Grey het nog twee harde toere oor vir die kwartaal. Volgende naweek Affies weg en twee naweke daarna Boishaai weg. Gaan lekker harde wedstryde wees.

    Grey se junior spanne doen verbasend goed tot dusver toe vanjaar. Die o/14 span lyk of hulle hope talent het, die o/15 span toon aansienlik beter as verlede jaar en die o/16’s speel kookwater rugby(hulle gaan moeilik geklop word).

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    1 May, 2014 at 12:21
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    #22 Gemaskerdesopbeen

    Wat n game gister! Groot pak forwards teen die Grey outjies. Janu Botha en die vaste vyf het soos diere gescrum, het die game geswaai met n mooi vaskop in die tweede helfde.
    Duane Wessels het sy lyf op die spel geplaas,tackel meester!
    Badie agter die scrum was blitsig.

    Mooi kerels mooi!!!!

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    1 May, 2014 at 11:56
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    #21 PRondersteuner

    I know of a lot of u/13 CW players that dissapear in high school. They just don’t develop enough. It happens in schools like PBH, PR, Grey as well. Not just “smaller” schools. Well done Grey and PR with the awards. It looked like the boys enjoyed the rugby.
    What’s the general opinion on the refereeing? There were some shocking decisions, but in general, it was not bad.

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    1 May, 2014 at 11:50
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    #20 BoishaaiPa

    Talking about u/13 Cravenweek…I am a great believer in scrapping any provincial colours or competition for youngters until the age of 16/17. Rather identify a large group of players with potential and give them decent coaches who can coach them skills. You can identify 4 or 5 good coaches who can take these boys during holidays and intervals and give them decent basic skills and knowledge. Each region can have these academies paid for by the franchises and boys can move in and out of these larger groups as they develop and you will have a much bigger group of rugby players by the age of 16 to eventually pick a u/16 and u/18 provincial group. More boys will gain skills by doing this and not just the boys from schools who can afford decent coaches.

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    1 May, 2014 at 11:36
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    #19 BoishaaiPa

    @BOG: I think your u/13 lost one game to Worcester Primary…I know the headmaster Andre Peens very well. He ‘s been producing very good u/13 teams for years now and most of those boys end up in Gim, Boishaai, Boland Landbou and Drosdty.

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    1 May, 2014 at 11:24
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    #18 BoishaaiPa

    @Grey Brak: Julle spanne is baie goed..maar julle moet nog Paarl toe kom vanjaar :mrgreen: ..Ons jonger spannetjies is nie te versmaai nie!

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    1 May, 2014 at 11:18
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    #17 Andre T

    Baie geluk aan al die wenners gister asook al die gelykop spanne.

    Julle moet my nou asb verskoon want ek het n verskriklike nag agter die rug.

    Ek le in die kake van die dood

    As ek my oe toemaak spring daar sulke oranje gedroggies voor my rond.

    En hier langs my op die vensterbank is so pers opgeblaasde kreatuurtjie, lyk soos my lewer, wat aanhoudend vir my sing…………..’ Dink jy darem nog aan my?……..al daai lang en eensaam aande……

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    1 May, 2014 at 11:08
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    #16 MikeSt

    Must say I am extremely proud of the EG Jansen team with 14 of the squad of 22 only in Grade 11 a lot is expected next year. Specially taking into consideration that a lot of the teams are what we refer to playig with post matrics U19’s.

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    1 May, 2014 at 11:07
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    #15 BOG

    @Grasshopper: They start in Gr 1

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    1 May, 2014 at 10:15
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    #14 Grasshopper

    @Grey Brak: I agree, coaching is a huge factor. I arrived in grade having never played rugby so started in the E team but by matric was 2nds. Just like making Craven Week doesn’t guarantee success same at primary level. However, those boys who did play at primary school do have the skills and basics we still needed to grasp. They have a head start. So 20 proper provincial rugby players arriving in grade 8 gives the coaches a great squad to start with…

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    1 May, 2014 at 09:36
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    #13 Predator

    @BOG: Nee wat stuur daai tjekkie vir die coaches van Grey, want jy kan sulke manne nie genoeg betaal vir wat hulle vermag nie. Ek sal seker maar altyd ‘n Kwagga ondersteuner bly al het ek nie meer ‘n kind daar nie. Ek het baie respek vir die effort wat hulle ook insit in rugby, ( my favourate / only hobby ), volgens my vrou. Net jammer dat baie van ons talent gewerf word, maar ons probeer cope met wat ons het,……dit bly nog steeds ‘n lekker uitdaging om die groot honde se bene partykeer af te vat.

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    1 May, 2014 at 09:29
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    #12 BOG

    @Predator: Na watter adres kan ek jou tjek stuur? :mrgreen: Nog altyd vermoed jy is n “closet” OG

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    1 May, 2014 at 09:18
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    #11 BOG

    @Grey Brak: A large number of U13s at CW, fall by the way side , so the importance of CW players at U13 level, should not be exaggerated. The skills development at Grey from a very young age (Gr1 ) should not be underestimated either. As far as I know, the U13 team in Kimberley also won both their matches. Reality is that the younger they are, the less consistent they are. Thats both obvious and natural. The number of achievers at GCB, who started there in Gr1, is also underestimated. Significantly, last year Beet had an article here on the primary school which had the most players in the S15 competition and it was Grey Primary. So, this reality, despite some jokes going around, should not be overlooked. If others think its about buying/recruitment for Gr8 only, they should think again because a significant number are being “bought” at the age of 6 and those teachers who are then doing the “buying”at that tender age, should get the credit for identifying future talent.But there are other contributing factors too, I believe.

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    1 May, 2014 at 09:12
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    #10 Predator

    @Grey Brak: RUGBY FACTORY!!!! should be added to the name of Grey College. What an absolute pleasure to see these boys play. Hats of to all the people and coaches of Grey with what they achieve and deliver year in and year out as far as rugby is concerned. Grey should be picked as the premier school to represent South Africa at international level every year. SARU should carry this expense with a smile,…because this is a great marketing / bragging opportunity for rugby in SA as a whole.

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    1 May, 2014 at 08:41
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    #9 Pinotage

    @Grey Brak: Some Craven Week under 13 players even battle to make the B teams at Grey. Coaching is out of the top drawer and big names count for nothing.

    So don’t tell them you can play. Show them.
    Agreed that development at GCB is priority. And not only with this game. Thank you all at Grey.

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    1 May, 2014 at 08:36
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    #8 Predator

    @Grey Brak: I totally agree. It is only at high school and specifically at the top super schools where these boys are coached into proper rugby players. This has always been my argument if you have a choice where to place your kid after grade 7. If he has rugby talent the choice should be obvious, but the logistics and finances does’nt always allow this. I also believe that not all the u/13 Cravenweek players are the best that the unions send to the week. Unfortunately these kids are offered the bursaries at the premier schools and the best in the position are often overlooked and end up at schools where the rugby is not at the standard of the Super schools. How does this kid develop compared to the kid at the Super school. A pity but a reality.

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    1 May, 2014 at 08:33
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    #7 Grey Brak

    @Grasshopper: 60 provinicial reps is way over the top. Maybe across all cultural and sporting codes, but certainly not all for rugby. About 20 per age group is an accurate guess.

    Interestingly enough is that both the current u14A and u15A sides have ±6 players each that never played u13 Craven Week. Player development is also a focus point at Grey. Playing Craven Week at u13 level is no guarantee that you will play A-team at high school.

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    1 May, 2014 at 08:19
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    #6 Grasshopper

    @Grey Brak: it certainly helps when you get about 60 primary school provincial reps coming in grade 8 every year…I think most schools are lucky to get 10…

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    1 May, 2014 at 07:47
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    #5 Grey Brak

    @Bog: I’m really proud to be an Old Boy at the moment. The Grey teams at all age groups are looking well drilled. Especially those under 16’s!

    Grey also keep their unbeaten record intact for all age groups at Wildeklawer since its inception.

    Worth noting is that after ±40 matches all the Grey A-teams are still unbeaten and all of them can potentially be ranked number 1 in their age groups. Something to be really proud of.

    Grey rugby is definitely looking very healthy at the moment and we are already looking forward to our encounter with Affies next weekend!

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    1 May, 2014 at 07:36
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    #4 tornado

    Dankie WK vir die geleentheid om great rugby te sien. Ek wens net da kon spanne soos Garsies en Menlo wees dat ons kon sien of hulle saam die groot honne kon blaf. Grasshopper ek dink jy is 100% reg met daai spanne. Wil ook net byvoeg dat Mburg tegnies n baie goeie toernooi gehad het.

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    1 May, 2014 at 07:35
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    #3 phat55

    well done to Grey College for getting team of the tournament,they just know how to win! doesnt matter if its an inch or a mile…..a win is a win. and to PRG for getting ‘most attractive rugby’ award means we on the right path & if we play with that intensity we’ll win many more games than we’ll lose this year!!

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    1 May, 2014 at 07:27
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    #2 Grasshopper

    Well done Grey, good teams know how to win even when tight. It’s crowded in the top 10 now. For me Grey, Paul Roos, Waterkloof & Paarl Gim are top 4….Outeniqua are up there too. Grey PE & Glenwood probably just top 10 now…

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    1 May, 2014 at 06:57
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    #1 BOG

    Awfully quite around here! Did the results not meet expectations, or what? Going by the comments leading up to yesterday, it would seem so. But what is clear, is that WK has established itself as the premier schools event for sport in SA, with KERF a close second.No political dictates. Perhaps the latter should invite some girls debating teams to bring “some colour” to the event there. Pity about the over age incident in Kimberley. Hopefully the guilty will be banned from future participation, but knowing “local school politics”, Im not all that convinced that this will happen. From a purely GCB perspective, it would seem a “greyt” long weekend with all their teams winning both matches.Now for “recovery”, interschools and a long season ahead. Viva le Grey! :mrgreen:

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    1 May, 2014 at 02:03