Ranking the Rankers – week ending 10/05/2025

Compliments of Bloktrui

# SCHOOL 365 Ruggas HouseR SASS NextGen XV The BHP Sch of Rugby SBRBlog SITES CONSENSUS
1 Paarl Gim 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 8 1.00
2 HJS Paarl BH 2 3 3 2 2 2 2 2 8 2.25
3 Affies 3 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 8 2.75
4 Paul Roos 4 4 4 4 5 4 4 4 8 4.13
5 Grey College 5 5 5 5 4 5 5 5 8 4.88
6 Oakdale 6 8 6 8 6 6 7 7 8 6.75
7 Durban HS 8 6 7 6 7 7 8 10 8 7.38
8 Garsfontein 7 7 8 9 10 8 6 6 8 7.63
9 Westville 9 10 10 7 8 10 10 11 8 9.38
10 Rondebosch 13 14 12 13 11 9 11 14 8 12.13
11 Stellenberg 10 13 14 10 16 16 12 13 8 13.00
12 Menlopark 12 12 13 17 9 12 16 15 8 13.25
13 Boland Landbou 18 9 9 14 15 11 9 23 8 13.50
14 Outeniqua 11 20 18 20 12 13 15 8 8 14.63
15 Northwood 14 19 19 15 17 21 14 9 8 16.00
16 Hilton 20 16 17 12 14 24 18 17 8 17.25
17 Helpmekaar 17 11 15 21 13 28 24 16 8 18.13
18 Wynberg 16 17 16 16 28 14 25 19 8 18.88
19 Noordheuwel 15 18 20 19 19 29 21 12 8 19.13
20 Grey HS 22 22 23 11 18 20 29 21 8 20.75
21 SACS 21 27 21 18 23 19 17 22 8 21.00
22 Jeppe 19 15 11 27 22 23 28 26 8 21.38
23 St Andrew’s 24 24 30 26 25 15 13 20 8 22.13
24 Graeme 25 39 50 23 20 17 19 25 8 27.25
25 Waterkloof 28 21 26 42 30 26 20 32 8 28.13
26 Durbanville 23 35 31 30 24 31 22 40 8 29.50
26 Maritzburg College 26 28 28 25 36 31 34 28 8 29.50
28 Glenwood 29 37 42 31 21 25 38 18 8 30.13
29 Queen’s 38 36 36 24 33 22 26 36 8 31.38
29 Monument 33 30 27 32 29 31 35 34 8 31.38
29 Michaelhouse 27 32 33 22 31 31 51 24 8 31.38
32 Nico Malan 31 29 29 28 27 31 51 27 8 31.63
33 Rustenburg 35 33 32 38 26 30 32 35 8 32.63
34 Nelspruit 30 26 25 47 34 31 27 42 8 32.75
35 Diamantveld 37 34 35 46 37 18 23 45 8 34.38
36 Bishops 42 31 37 34 44 31 30 39 8 36.00
36 EG Jansen 32 23 24 44 38 31 42 54 8 36.00
38 Kearsney 42 40 38 36 35 27 40 53 8 38.88
39 Transvalia 34 38 40 43 45 31 49 33 8 39.13
39 KES 39 25 22 45 54 31 51 46 8 39.13
41 Middelburg 42 44 46 40 40 31 33 38 8 39.25
42 Oos-Moot 42 48 44 52 39 31 39 29 8 40.50
43 Drostdy 42 43 48 33 43 31 36 49 8 40.63
44 Pretoria BH 40 40 45 39 47 31 51 41 8 41.75
45 Zwartkop 42 45 62 51 32 31 31 43 8 42.13
46 Marlow 36 54 47 49 50 31 41 30 8 42.25
47 Brandwag (EP) 42 49 61 55 42 31 37 31 8 43.50
48 Milnerton 42 61 53 37 41 31 48 37 8 43.75
49 HTS Middelburg 42 46 51 41 49 31 47 47 8 44.25
50 St Stithians 42 50 54 29 62 31 45 44 8 44.63

 

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13 Comments

  1. avatar
    #13 Bloktrui

    @Cappie (Comment #12)
    :lol: lekker storie….the ranking the ranker is based upon “consensus”…..soos @Djou se ,dis 50/50 , die top 10 sal almal mee saamstem , maar hoe dieper ons in die watergat afgaan hoe vinniger word die water meer troebel,ek dink die voordeel van die stelsel is dat ‘n mens die verskillende rankers langs mekaar sien en jou eie “mind”opmaak oor wie meer reg of verkeerd is as ander rankers…lekker naweek vir almal

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    16 May, 2025 at 15:10
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    #12 Cappie

    @Snufkin246 (Comment #10)
    Looks pretty much the same! 23 of 50 positions has changed, mostly with one or two positions up or down. Here and there it was more than two positions. It is like Djou says, it is all consensus. Consensus of consensus.

    Ek onthou ‘n storie van Fanus Rautenbach jare gelede. Hy het gesê as jy 99 swart albasters en een wittetjie in ‘n sakkie gooi en jy skommel hom, wat is jou kanse dat jy die wittetjie sal uittrek. Ons stats prof het ‘n groot oefening daarvan gemaak en gevra ons moet bereken wat is die waarskynlikheid dat jy die wittetjie met die eerste vat sal vat, en dan met die tweede een ens. ens. en met watter vat is jou waarskynlikheid die grootste, ens… Lang en baie somme wat ons moes maak oor die sakkie albasters. die volgende dag op Springbokradio vra Fanus toe weer die vraag oor die albastersakkie en wat is die kanse dat jy die wittetjie sal vat met die eerste vat. Hy sê toe die kanse is 50-50, jy het hom of jy het hom nie! Ek weet nie of iemand daai storie kan onthou nie.

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    16 May, 2025 at 14:19
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    #11 Djou

    @Snufkin246 (Comment #10)
    Nice, well done!
    Seems more fair at the lower rankings!

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    16 May, 2025 at 11:55
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    #10 Snufkin246

    @Djou (Comment #9)
    Indeed. Here is an updated list removing the top and bottom for each team.

    1 [1] Paarl Gim
    2 [2] HJS Paarl BH
    3 [3] Affies
    4 [4] Paul Roos
    5 [5] Grey College
    6 [6] Oakdale
    7 [7] Durban HS
    8 [8] Garsfontein
    9 [9] Westville
    10 [10] Rondebosch
    11 [13] Boland Landbou
    12 [11] Stellenberg
    13 [12] Menlopark
    14 [14] Outeniqua
    15 [15] Northwood
    16 [16] Hilton
    17 [17] Helpmekaar
    18 [18] Wynberg
    19 [19] Noordheuwel
    20 [21] SACS
    21 [20] Grey HS
    22 [22] Jeppe
    23 [23] St Andrew’s
    24 [24] Graeme
    25 [25] Waterkloof
    26 [26] Durbanville
    27 [26] Maritzburg College
    28 [34] HTS Drostdy
    29 [32] Nico Malan
    30 [28] Glenwood
    31 [29] Michaelhouse
    32 [29] Queen’s
    33 [29] Monument
    34 [33] Rustenburg
    35 [35] Diamantveld
    36 [36] Bishops
    37 [36] EG Jansen
    38 [38] Kearsney
    39 [39] KES
    40 [41] Middelburg
    41 [39] Transvalia
    42 [45] Zwartkop
    43 [42] Oos-Moot
    44 [43] Drostdy
    45 [44] Pretoria BH
    46 [46] Marlow
    47 [47] Brandwag (EP)
    48 [50] St Stithians
    49 [48] Nelspruit
    50 [49] HTS Middelburg

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    16 May, 2025 at 08:14
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    #9 Djou

    The internationally accepted method is to throw away the highest and worst and then arrive at an average.
    It normally does not make a big difference at the top, but provides a better indication from around 10 to 30 or 40.
    Deviation from consensus is just that, deviation from consensus, nothing else. It assumes consensus is correct. You might just as well calculated deviation from R365, or BHP, etc.
    In life, consensus is about 50% correct and 50% wrong.

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    16 May, 2025 at 06:48
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    #8 Grizzly

    @Bloktrui (Comment #7)
    Again this looks right.Maybe some bloggers must just hold their horses afther the first or second round of rankings for the year and give time maybe like afther Wk.

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    15 May, 2025 at 18:10
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    #7 Bloktrui

    @star (Comment #6)
    some rankers go to top 30 (BHP) OR top 40 (Rugby365) ,think it would be fair to do average deviation for top 30 ?

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    15 May, 2025 at 16:24
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    #6 star

    @Snufkin246 (Comment #5)
    So 365 is head and shoulders above all the others 8-O

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    15 May, 2025 at 14:10
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    #5 Snufkin246

    The value under each Ranking Website indicates the average number of positions each team on that website differs from the consensus ranking.

    Looking at the top 10 in your table comparing HouseR and SBRblog, you can see that HouseR ranks teams much closer to the consensus top 10. In contrast, SBRblog includes several teams (e.g., Outeniqua and Northwood) that differ more from the consensus. This is reflected in the calculated average deviations: HouseR (0.4) and SBRblog (0.9).

    In summary: the lower the score, the closer the rankings are to the consensus.

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    15 May, 2025 at 12:11
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    #4 Bloktrui

    @Snufkin246 (Comment #3)
    Thank you Snufkin …..my Stats101 van 1983 laat my in die steek :wink: could you perhaps explain in layman’s terms so that “toppies”like myself can understand please?

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    15 May, 2025 at 11:46
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    #3 Snufkin246

    AVERAGE DEVIATION FROM CONSENSUS

    TOP 10
    365….Ruggas…HouseR…SASS….NextGen..BHP…..SOR…..SBRb
    0,4….0,8……0,4……0,8…..0,8……0,6…..0,5…..0,9

    TOP 20
    365….Ruggas…HouseR…SASS….NextGen..BHP…..SOR…..SBRb
    1,5….1,7……1,3……2,1…..2,1……2,6…..1,9…..2,2

    TOP 50
    365….Ruggas…HouseR…SASS….NextGen..BHP…..SOR…..SBRb
    2,2….3,9……4,5……4,6…..3,7……5,3…..4,9…..4,6

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    15 May, 2025 at 10:39
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    #2 Kaya 85

    @Bloktrui (Comment #1)
    Great thx Blokkies.
    Most accurate…
    I don’t think Rondebosch would begrudge swopping one place with Stellenberg, then the top 10 would be spot on imo.

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    14 May, 2025 at 19:01
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    #1 Bloktrui

    COLOUR CODING

    Hi All ……colours as follows : Blue spot on , red more than 5 places out , grey 1-5 places out…..Tx to all the rankers , must be some sort of record to have weekly rankings out by Tuesday evening…..Enjoy!
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    13 May, 2025 at 19:47