The schools of Mike Fennell past and present have their work cut out if they want to achieve the desired results against strong midweek opposition.
Fennell the former headmaster and an old boy of KES took up the post of CEO at DHS earlier this year. On Wednesday KES are away to Affies, while DHS makes the trip up to Pietermaritzburg to face College.
In 2012 KES fielded a strong team and were in this Affies fixture to win it, eventually losing just 13-15. This year things have not always gone according to plan for KES whereas the Affies team is currently regarded as being as strong, perhaps even a little stronger than in 2012. Affies has a big scrum, a good lineout, decent mobility and a few x-factors such as Jurie Linde, Frans Steyn and Eduan Keyter. There is a good balance to the home team. The return of talented flyhalf Marco Engelbrecht offers a bit of hope to the visitors but even if Engelbrecht can somehow get back to his brilliant best in this one, it still looks set to be the biggest onslaught the KES defence will face all season. (Final score Affies 46 – 6 KES)
In KZN, Mike Fennell might very well be present to watch DHS who haven’t played a rugby match in over a month face the unenviable task of trying to contain Maritzburg College on the latter’s beloved Goldstones ground. DHS is still a bit of an unknown quantity. Their ability to move the ball through the hands against Northwood in the KZN Top Schools evening event at Kingspark offered hope of a promising season results wise but soon after that game they found themselves on the ropes in a fixture against Port Natal. Acting on medical advice, the team was then withdrawn from three Easter rugby matches. So in a way, DHS will be starting their season all over again on Goldstones. This year College seem a lot more tuned in to ball carrying from first phase possession and their drives appear to be well co-ordinated. If DHS can’t halt College on that gain-line with some physicality in the collision, it will open up all sorts of attacking options to the hosts. Either way, expect this match to test the DHS defensive resolve to the max. (Final score College 38 – 11 DHS)
@Gungets Tuft:
Eish yeah maybe next time. Its fine though, as long as you try your best to make it to their game against Glenwood as that’s where they’ll meet their biggest challenge and’ll find things real tough.
@School
The no.8 and captain is also from Zululand. Barnes I think is his name. Hope they give Westville a real rugby lesson tomorrow
@gungets tuft: in all this recruiting I think its good that they’ve kept the Dale primary backline together though,also none of these boys
Possess the size that often leads to raw talent being overlooked in jnr. Ages except no.11 and no.8 so I hope they last.
I agree shopping for players especially in these numbers is often a big gamble though
@School: Not the worst guess then at 1/2 the side. If it works, good. Still have my doubts about how sustainable it is. Eastern Cape now have a S15 franschise which is going to expand possibilitis down there, hope not too many bridges burned in Durban, just 3 Durban kids in there?
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Eesch, unfortunately corresponds with the College U14A at 9 and U15A at 11. Not going to be enough time to get to DHS and find parking. Some other time perhaps
DHS U14A more or less where they come from
NO.7,10,12,13 dale college
NO.15 eastern cape
NO.3 boarder
NO.2 penzance
NO.6 DPHS(eastern cape)
NO.9,11 GWD prep
NO.1,4,14 mtubatuba zululand
@Gungets Tuft:
U14A is playing at 10:05 tomorrow. A good,talented bunch who just need to tighten up on defence and they’ll be even better
@HORSEFLY NO.1: What time is your U14A match tomorrow and where. Might pop down if I can fit if in with the College matches at Northwood
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Sorry, no idea. Now completely out of touch there. Last of my informers left last year.
@Gungets Tuft:
Do you know where this years crop of Prep boys is mainly going? I know DHS are getting a couple as they’ll be following their. Brothers. Don’t know after that.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: I meant the kids placed at DPHS. The rest, can’t say. Take your word for it
@HORSEFLY NO.1: I actually did know that the kids were generally local – I stand corrected.
Hey, good luck. They are a good bunch of players, I hope they stick together.
@Gungets Tuft:
I only know of about 4 not being KZN boys. Yes I did talk the team down but that was because I was told that they’d be good but not as good as last years side. But, I did also state that the DHS head of sport did say that he felt very confident about his 2013 rugby intake.
I know that there are boys from Mtubatuba,Zululand,DPHS,Glenwood Prep,Monument,Dale Junior. Others I’m not sure of but are definitely KZN boys from what I’ve heard.
DHS IMO is doing a thing similar to that of Glenwood by looking outside the box that so many schools are currently stuck in. And I do know of about 3 DPHS 1st rugby players that’ll definitely be at DHS and I think the captain is also coming
@Gungets Tuft:
Speaking of the kids that DHS bring into DPHS ,saying that they are from Eastern Cape is quite false. Yes last years kid was but these are almost always KZN kids from disadvantaged schools in Inanda etc.
Those schools aren’t doing too good in rugby at the moment Gungets so it only makes sense to look elsewhere
@HORSEFLY NO.1: How many are there. It’s an easy question. So far there are 11 “unaccounted for”.
Truth is, you brought the questions on yourself. Earlier this year you were talking the team down, predicting a very average intake, then suddenly you are top of the world. Something changed, it leaves some questions which are far worse unanswered than answered. Until then it is perfectly fair to speculate as to where they came from.
If you don’t agree with my hypothesis, let’s see how many DPHS, Glenwood Prep, Northlands boys apply for admission next year. Do yourself a favour, as a loyal Old Boy, and ask the question of the school.
@Henkies: I matriculated before you were born if you matriculated in the 90’s.
1. There is a big difference between offering a kid a bursary from your traditional feeder school (your Merchiston example), or finding a decent player in the Eastern Cape (DHS place 2 boys at DPHS every year for this), and bringing in half a team. How many did DHS bring in.
2. If you look after your feeders – there is nothing wrong with DPHS and any of the other Durban North schools who would look across the river (Chelsea, Northlands, Virginia) – then your quality will come from the local schools. You keep getting 8 or 10 from outside your feeders and they will start to look elsewhere. Then the Gr8 kids parents talk to the Gr7 and Gr6 parents from the kids previous school and Bob’s your private school kid and not at DHS.
College offer on average 5 sports bursaries. There are one or two closed scholarships from private organisations (the Jacques Kallis Foundation for instance), but a total of about 25 a year. Of those 6 are academic from a banking group, a few from the traditional feeders and that’s it. A full list is available every year.
Hey, good luck. If ti works out then DHS take back their traditional place as a powerhouse of school sport in KZN again. If it doesn’t … then the damage is going to be a lot harder to undo.
It really isn’t that many boys from outside of KZN in the DHS team. Don’t know why those people ‘in the know’ do not know these DHS boys when 4 of them are KZN U13 players. Only thing that these boys are ‘guilty’ of is not being from the more known primary schools in KZN. Buying from DPHS,Glenwood Prep etc is a very,very tough thing now… Look at the schools that are full of those players at U14 this year…not doing GREAT yet DHS and Glenwood with players from all over KZN are doing great.
Don’t think its good to assume that they’re all Eastern Cape kids and so what if there are quite a few? I don’t agree with your hypothesis I’m afraid
I agree with you in many ways Gungets. Matriculating in the 90’s, this whole buying of players thing is completely foreign to me. I’m certainly not a fan, but this is the Dog eat Dog environment schools now operate in. DHS was one of the few schools who didn’t get onto the whole shopping for players theme which seemed to start in 2000, and unfortunately by trying to stick to the honourable principal of “you should come to the school because of our tradition and values” DHS has fallen behind the pack. I don’t feel that what DHS is doing is any different from other schools. What’s the difference between shopping for players in KZN or in another province ? It’s the same thing when you come down to it. The only difference is a border on a map. If DHS offers a boy from the E Cape a bursary, it really is no different to College offering a Merchiston boy the same thing. We also been pretty shafted when hard work has been done to bring promising players to the school but only had them tempted away so in my eyes, the rulebook has been thrown out the window. In this professional era which schoolboy rugby finds itself, it really is difficult to draw the line between what is acceptable practise and what isn’t and it’s pretty sad really to now have this US styled scholarship system.
When did you matriculate Gungets ?
@Henkies: Respectfully, I don’t agree. Even at a great rugby primary like DPHS no more than 5 kids genuinely believe they could make a career from rugby. In 2011, my sons year, there were a crop of boys who have definite promise that went to DHS because of a marketing offensive from DHS and the DPHS headmaster. I stand uncer correction but I believe something like 60 kids went. Some have left and gone up the hill, others carry on performing well. The next year (this years U15) were also a good intake. All this while DHS were struggling.
Personally, I think DHS have been shopping for a big year without considering their local feeders. I will be thrilled to be proved wrong, but this years U14A team appears imported, probably up to 8 – 10 players. That means bursaries, spots in the BE, spots in the top team. Apparently from the size of the boys now (we know it all evens out later), some of them are a definite threat to the current U15’s in 2 years time.
Like I said, happy to be proved wrong – only one way to do that is to publish the list of schools that they came from. More than 2 or 3 from non-KZN schools and you need to understand that you might buy short term success but sacrifice affordable sustainability. And then, if it doesn’t work to get you a winning team through the grades, you have lost on both counts. Just my opinion, you can buy a team but you cannot buy respect.
@Klofie Pa: KloofPa ek is werklik teleurgesteld om van die beserings te hoor. Volgens my sleutelspeulers in julle pak en ook sterk kandidate vir die CW span. Vergeet van die Affie Kloof wedstryd. Ek het werklik verwag dat julle n groot verrasing sou lewer op die 1ste. Sonder die spelers gaan dit moeilik wees.
It’s a difficult one Gungets. I am not in the know, but I am sure there is every effort to encourage Prep boys to DHS. I don’t think Prep boys are not going to DHS because DHS happen to be recruiting boys from the E. Cape. I just think they are not coming because of the fall in the standard of rugby and boys probably feel they have a better chance of furthering their rugby careers by going to schools which are currently stronger. I’m not sure what other strategy DHS can follow at this stage to catch up, other than to recruit just like the other schools are? It will only be once DHS has a competitive first team year will it start to attract the primary schools players in KZN again. I can’t see any other option at this other than for DHS to carry on recruiting in the manner it is. Hopefully it will pay dividends in time if the strong young players we currently have don’t get taken by other schools in the province.
@Klofie Pa: Ons mag nie meer drank na die kamers toe vat nie. En braaivleis laat blykbaar die ou mense se longe toetrek. Nee wat my dae van party is ongelukkig verby.
@Hanswors: ek wonner of hulle enigsins in staat is om so iets te reel.
miskien vir Tjoppa vra in hand op te steek.
@Woltrui: hehe nee wat Wollie. so gaan jy nie wegkom nie.
moet se ons het probleme op die stadium. nr 8 uit vir 6 weke die 2 dalk ook uit vir seisoen. ons raak uitgedun.
maar hey geen verskonings.
praat met daai pelle van jou. kobus en jocka sal jou mooi bystaan. altyd in vir kuier die manne !
@HORSEFLY NO.1: The U14 players at DHS are interesting because nobody in the know recognises any of the boys. Before the season started we had long discussions as to where the Grade 8’s were coming from, with you saying there had been a very successful DHS day with the DPHS boys, and that other schools in Durban were also serious contenders as feeders to DHS. There appear to be few, if any DPHS boys in the DHS U14A side, so naturally it is of interest where they came from. Since it is also unlikely that kids from Border and the Eastern Cape pay their own way to Durban, it is an indication of the level of bursary activity, something which has also been discussed ad-nauseum here.
If you are looking for an indication of why DHS might not feature as a destination for primary school kids in Durban, look no further than this. In the same way as we have discussed (to death and beyond) the importing of players in Gr11 and Gr12, and the long term detrimental effect of that, so it will be with the wholesale import of players from Border and Eastern Cape. Eventually the piggy bank is empty and you will have further destroyed your school reputation as a school of choice in Durban.
If the majority are from KZN, then great. If not, then you have started a long term problem that is going to be hard to end. It would be a pity, after 2011 was a super successful recruiting year for DHS (60+ DPHS boys) and 2012 as well (lots of locals, some great talent). My view, if you are recuiting heavily from out-of-province then you are pouring chlorine into your gene pool, not clever.
@Beet – this goes back to that suggestion earlier this year where we wanted to have that “Home Grown” scoring, where kids that have been recruited into the school since Gr8 score better, those recruited in Gr11 score nothing. Add a column, with the number of KZN sourced players, then plot the long term success of the teams. I am no statistician but I know where my money is going.
@Hanswors: Die probleem is ek het albei spanne sien speel. Dinge lyk nie goed vir die Affie ondersteuners nie. As ek nie weggaan sal ek maar op die 25 ste in die tuin gaan skoffel of skottelgoed was
@Klofiepa: Dit klink na ‘n blink plan daardie ietsie kouds en ‘n braai die aand voor die tyd – ek hoop buitestaanders is ook welkom , ek ken nie juis die manne van die 2 skole nie maar ek hou van boks ek kan uithelp enige kant toe indien nodig.
@Woltrui: Nee wat jy hoef nie worry oor jou span nie – ek dink nie die swemskool sal dit 2 jaar in ‘n ry regkry om te wen nie!
@TJ:
Seems DHS U15A got lucky again like last year… But there seems to be nothing between the two sides. Dunno about College but for DHS the fact that theyv e only playes 2 games mustve played a part.
@GreenBlooded:
Think its mainly KZN and Border. Why? How was that game?
@beet
That should be a good game. If WBHS don’t allow DHS the go-forward that is. Otherwise it could be one-way traffic
@Hanswors: Juis hoekom ek weggaan die naweek. Het nie veel hoop vir my spannetjie nie
. Kan dalk emosioneel raak en Kloofpa van agter met ‘n 27 ringspanner bykom 
@beet: In this case it was probably untrained schoolboys. Serious protocols followed by trained AR’s in all things. For judging kicks at goal – on the far side of the kicker – AR takes a backward position and judges the uprights. Near side guy takes a forward position and judges the crossbar. Two yeses before the flags go up. One yes one no – no flags.
@beet: U14As playing at 10h05
What time are the DHS under-14As playing tomorrow morning?
@GreenBlooded: I sometimes feel that touch judges stand in the wrong place for the straight forward in line with the post kicks – right beneath the bar. I’ve often seen the officials look at each other for confirmation in this situation when a kick is too close to one of the uprights
@TJ: Eish. Makes me cringe.
@Greenblooded: one said yes and the other no
@TJ: A dispute over a kick at goal – mmmmmmm – brings back memories. Where were the touch judges – it should be their call.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Where did your U14A boys come from out of interest?
@Gungets Tuft: 7-5 to College in 2nd half but get your point.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: In the u15A game both sides butchered some try scoring opportunities with College the worst, a 3 on 1 with the final pass going astray. College should have taken the game but the DHS side should be commended for coming back from 2 tries down. The ref inexplicably awarding a conversion to DHS to draw the game, a decision which left both set of coaches bemused as the opinion of the DHS coach who was in line with it was that it went wide.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: I just love the way some people make stateme .. .. sorry .. “ask questions” ….. on this forum. Here’s an idea – why not ask Mike Fennel. Just don’t ask him about the 1st team game, I am told he left early, so he might not be able to tell you why College let DHS score a … {damn .. sorry ..} .. how DHS managed to stage a magnificent comeback, full of heart, courage and fire, to outscore College 1sts in the second half.
@Gungets
Do you know what happened in the U14A and U15A games? Why DHS U14A let College win 2nd half 12-13 and what happened in the U15A draw?
@Tjoppa: Soos n tradisionele skool wat die wanna be’s trakteer op n braai en ietsie kouds die aand voor die game.
@Tjoppa: I need to start checking these posts before sending them.
Agree with you the KES guys are a great bunch of people and there’s a healthy rivalry between our schools. I suppose there are always a few supporters who get a bit too excited at the games.
Wonder how the new KES headmaster is taking this maybe he will leave there after 18 months as well. Dont people do back ground checks on people anymore.
@Hanswors: Soos?
@JeppeRugbyFan: Spelling also not that bright in English mate. But yes he is a wonderful person. Heard he went on his motorbike to PM with his wife on the back. Typical.
Regarding the KES supporter only two or three bad apples. Not the majority
@woltrui: Die 25 ste Mei speel AHS en Waterkloof op AHS se velde – hoop jy kan iets reel.
@Tjoppa: Van die KES onderstuener gepraat, dis presies hoekom ek die paveljoen probeer vermy, omdat die beste refs gewoonlik daar sit.
@Tjoppa: He’s English is very good and I wouldn’t say we are friends, I just met him in Maritzburg during the tournament and I’m sure I’m the only Jeppe farther her knows (a bit os a criptic clue if you will). Nice guy.
Ek kan eintlik redelik goed Afrikaans praat maar ek sukkel net bietjie met die spelling.
@JeppeRugbyFan: The Doctor? did not even know he could speak English. But English friends? can not be Affies no 15.
@JeppeRugbyFan: No this was his view for all the matches played on the A field. Really a bad taste left in my mouth.
@Klofie Pa: Klofies lankal gese dat vat Affies voor aan en wen die game. Dit is weereens gewys gisteraand. Slegs 6 voor het volgens my enigiets gedoen in die los. Ek weet WP was beseer maar kan nie dink dink het so ‘n groot invloed gehad. Magtig forwards moet mos eers die basics doen en dan agterlyn toe gaan. Nee wat moet se ek glo nie Affies top 5 einde van die jaar nie.
@JeppeRugbyFan: There is a difference in difficult conditions and just slinging the ball hoping somebody will catch. Too much Sonny Bill.
@Woltrui: Is dit nie snaaks dat die over rated spelers nie deliver en die unsung heros die kwaliteit lewer nie. 15,12 en 6 uitstaande.
@Woltrui: I’m sure it will be a good game on Saturday. The Jeppe side this year is a lot more competitive than last year so I don’t think Affies will have it all their own way.
Interesting comment made by @Tjoppa: above regarding the KES supporter that thought the BB ref was blowing KES out of the game. From a neutral spectator’s point of view I thought he had a good game and was consistent with the infringements of both teams. Affies did flirt with the advantage line on defence but he blew them up a few times for it.
I’m sure we will be staying for a cold one after the game so if KlofiePa isn’t there
and you make your appearance ask your No15’s father to introduce you.
@JeppeRugbyFan: Seems like all the rugby roads up north are leading to Pretoria this weekend. Jeppe/Affies and then the semi’s for the Nu Power series. What a weekend.
Jeppe’s got some good results this season. Think it could be a good game. Don’t care if Affies win or loose. Hope they play some constructive rugby.
@Woltrui: I’m pretty sure it was 10 that kicked the drop. 15 kicked the penalty over from inside the KES half. Also a very good kick.
I’m looking forward to this weekend’s fixtures against Affies. I’m sure our boys are keen to play again after last week got rained out.
@Klofie Pa: Hi Klofie Pa. Ja Dawie en Jurie was die senters. Wat gebeur die 25 ste. My vroutjie blykbaar gereel dat ons die week uitstedig is. Weet nie waar. Blykbaar geen internet opvangs.
@Woltrui: Is dit Dawie en Jurie wat saam was Wollie?? 12/13???
As dit Dawie was lyk my hy gryp sy kans!! My seuns rate hom!!
En dan Wollie… hou op om die manne se foute so uit te wys!! Jy gee net skietgoed vir die coach om reg te maak en die donners op ons los te laat 25ste.
@JeppeRugbyFan: You are right Jeppe. That drop goal had class written all over it. It was taken from between the Affies 10m and halfway line. I thought it was the no 15 who took the drop?
@Woltrui: I agree with you on the point that the Affies forwards didn’t commit enough players to the breakdown and KES definitely exploited this area in the first half turning over possession a couple of times.
The ball was very wet from the dew and this didn’t help either team from a handling point of view which resulted in a bit of a scrappy first half. Affies however seemed to adjust better in the 2nd half when KES unfortunately looked like they ran out of steam in the last 20 minutes.
The standout players for me in the Affies side was No.12 who has very good balance and runs extremely well with the ball, and No.15 who was solid in defence and reads the game well, and is especially dangerous on attack (I think he scored 3 of the Affies tries).
@Vleis: As far as I can remeber the KES flyhalf went off early in the 2nd half. I’m not sure why because he seemed fine, so maybe just precautionary. He did kick an impressive drop goal late in the first half from about 30m though. Even Naas would have been proud
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@Tjoppa: I agree – I dont think one must judge the 1 st team of next year based on a bad u/16 team the previous year. We all know that you get some boys that develop later – AHS will always have a good 1 ST 15 irrespective of the performance of the age groups, there a just too many talent that wil come through to schoose from.
@Vleis: Vleis the team that really impressed me this year was an inform Kloof against Paarl BH. They did their basics right and they played to their strong points. Tactically very good. When you watch them play you get the impression the team is above all else. They could surprise a couple off teams this year.
@Woltrui; Ja ek was ook teleurgesteld oor wat ek gisteraand gesien het, ek het baie gelees oor die groot manne maar ek stem saam – iemand moet die werk by die vaste los doen. Te veel groot lang seuns het agter rond gestaan en gekyk hoe die losgemale gebeur. Baie individue maar op hierdie stadium speel AHS glad nie as ‘n span nie. AHS se 13 en 14 is baie gevaarlik……..
@Woltrui: Nice info to read there.
2 things that come to mind – 1) yesterday was a midweek game = players not as mentally tuned as they should be in due to having to attend school that day. 2) the Klofies game last year being first game up for Affies while Kloof had game time the week before – no fault of Kloof but made me think if that game had been played later on in the year, the outcome might have been different.
@Woltrui: What you have noted above is what worries me about SA rugby in general. We rely too much on brute force to win games, but at international level, all teams are big and strong – e.g. the Bokke’s scrums have been mediocre for years now.
Ten opsigte van die Affies KES wedstryd die volgende:
1. Probleem wat laasjaar teen Kloof kop uit gesteek het en nou weer op groot skaal voorkom. Vaste los. Tydens losskrums het ‘n klein KES pak Affies van die losballe afgestoot. Volgens my was dit een van die redes dat Affies in 2012 teen Kloof verloor het. Kloof se pak was laasjaar onder een kombers en hulle het ons in die faset pak gegee. Die jaar is Affies ongelukkig na 6 wedstryde swak in die faset.
2. Lynstane. Wat kan ek se. Ons 2 het die potensiaal. Laasjaar gewys hy kan. Wat fout is weet ek nie. Sy form in die faset tans nie op standaard. Hoekom daar nie na die voorste springer (no 4) gegooi word nie-onverklaarbaar.
3. Affies se agterlyn lyk baie goed en trek tans wedstryde deur die drif vir die span. Moeilik om spelers in die agterlyn uit te sonder want almal lyk goed. Die 12 was egter uitstaande.
4. KES se skrums was goed tot een van hulle vaste voorspelers met ‘n draagbaar van die veld is(hoop die besering nie te ernstig). Daarna gesukkel in die skrums.
5. KES se vaste fasette is soos verwag op standaard.
6. Volgens my was KES se 8 en 9 hul uitstaande spelers
@Roger: KES have nothing to be ashamed of BUT if Affies is properly coached with the abundance of talent playing to their full potential it could have been ugly. But hats of to KES forward coaching staff. All the teams I watched scrummed and cleaned like champions. Somewhere someone is doing good. But like I said Affies won by overpowering their opponents with brute strength. That was the difference.
But one message to all that think Affies will have a below average 1st 15 next year. The u/16’s was according to me their best team of the day. And last year u/16’s are beginning to shine in the open teams. So don’t write them off to early.
@Vleis: I have it 4ths lost by six and 3rds won by 2.
@Woltrui: Hulle was almal daar Boys High en Kloof se manne het daar gesit. Regtig baie erg teleur gestel. Mens wil nie seuns afkraak nie maar ja, swak swak swak.
@Roger: Yes, I hope that the KES v St Alban’s fixture is back on next year.
Interesting that the KES 3rds and 4ths won. If I remember correctly, the KES u16 team from last year was quite good (despite missing the odd player playing for the 1st team) and the Affies u16 team was weak (by their high standards)…so next year’s 1st team fixture at KES could be interesting.
I’m afraid that it is not going to get too much easier on Saturday. The KES 1st team should just about cope against Menlo’s 1sts at home, but the junior A teams will take a beating from Menlo’s juniors. For some reason, Menlo do not seem to translate dominance in the junior teams into great 1st teams. I would be curious to hear some opinions as to why that is the case.
@Vleis: Ouch – tough day at the office. I think only five teams won – including 3rds and 4ths. I hear Kes were better than the scoreline suggests – a few interception try’s etc but what’s done is done – 2014 is another year and the sun will still come up tomorrow
Not sure about number 10 – first game back so hope he went ok.
Hope St Albans are back on next year
@Roger: Yes, I’m very disappointed that St Alban’s is not playing KES this year. It is a privilege to play KES, but moreover, I think that the 1st team would have had more than an outside chance of beating KES at home and the u15 team might have been favourites against KES u15. The St Alban’s first team have had a similar season to KES in that they are very erratic – they have won four out of six, including a win over Hilton.
Last year an injury hit St Alban’s team were destroyed by a magnificent KES performance, but a month later they beat Jeppe…and then a further month later KES were easily beaten by Jeppe…so you never know with schoolboy rugby.
Did your flyhalf play the whole game today?
@Tjoppa: Tjop ek wil nie negatief wees nie maar ek dink as die wiele gaan afkom gaan dit op groot skaal wees.
Ek glo nie ek gee geheime weg. Enige Pta skool afrigter wat sy sout werd is en nog teen Affies moet speel sou die wedstryd bywoon.
Hoe is dit moontlik dat ons 5 van ons eerste 8 lynstane verloor. Wat gaan n span soos Grey Bloem met die omgekeerde balbesit teen ons doen. En met respek teen KES maar hulle voories is op beste “gemiddeld”.
Ek dink nie Kloof het een lynstaan teen n puik Paarl BH afgestaan nie.
Luister wat ek se: As ons nie ons eerste fase opknap gaan Kloof ons nie wen. Hulle gaan ons verneder.
My opinie het slegs die 8 tot potensiaal gespeel. As ek nou op vorm n CW agttal moet kies sal daar nie 1 Voorspeler van Affies wees nie. Kloof sal 6, Garsies 1 en Centurion 1.
Affies se agterlyn lyk goed. PAARL BH se agterlyn is ook goed. Kyk wat het Kloof met hulle gemaak. Jy kan met 7’s rugby wegkom teen gemiddelde spanne. Nie teen Grey Bloem en Kloof.
Ek het so nare gevoel oor die groot wedstryde wat voorle. Hoop nie ek klink te negatief. Min spanne in die land wat oor soveel talent as die Affies span beskik.
What a complete waste. I left with 10 min left on the clock and Affies 40+ points ahead. But before you jump to conclusions. Affies with all the A teams won by margins of 40+ and then I had to sit next to a KES supporter that could not understand why the BB ref is so unfair. According to him all the refs missed good games and KES was blown of the field. I can not understand.
Then I have to say it again and I hope the Affies 1st 15’s coaching staff is listening. [edited]. No gameplan. Overpowering your opponents and then scoring opportunistic tries is not going to work against stronger opposition. I sat behind the BB selectors. 5 of them came with clipboards, teamsheats and at half time everything was put away. I think more boys played them out of contention than played them into any team. The only player worth mentioning was the no 6. Excellent.
Let me say one thing KES was not as bad as the score say. They played rugby. Good scrums, good rucking just a pity the backline is not up to standard.
But again disappointed is putting it mildly.
1st 46-6, under16a 62-12, under15a 46-10 and under 14a 46-3. Seems Affies liked 46 points or more….Affies at home is a different kettle of fish, Glenwood have experienced it before, hence our win there a few years back being so special, once a century stuff…
What was the score for the 1sts Affies vs KES ?
Tough day at the office for both of Fennels schools! KES felt the Affies heat in Pretoria, no disgrace most schools do. Thank goodness Glenwood have Affies at home this year….
@Gungets Tuft: 1sts final score 38-11
At College
U14A – 18-40 (5-28 at half time)
U15A – 14-14
U16A – 60-6
2nd – 19-3
1st currently 38-6, don’t know how much time left
U14A 3-46, U16D 0-50
eish
KES under 16B get throttled 67-0 – getting ugly!
@Vleis: cheeky bugger – I wonder if St Albans 1st side would live with Affies 5th side
How are St Albans doing this year Vleis – I see its another fixture gone from the KES calender?
Looks like I won’t be going to the KES v Affies game after all – the lightie wants to chill with his mates here in Jhb before going on holiday tomorrow instead….plus he said that he doesn’t want to watch a blowout!!
I’ll clip him behind the ears for your Roger!
@Woltrui: @Grasshopper: Woltrui – I think you are been kind – agreed, last year we should have won – missed 5 kicks if memory serves. This year – I hate to say it – but I agree with Hopper. We live and hope
just as long as we beat PBHS this year – Im happy
Last year KES lost to an average PBHS before they played Affies. Everybody thought Affies were going to win by a big margin then. Affies were extremely lucky to win that match. Sounds a little bit to familiar for comfort. As a Affies supporter I’m not over confidant going into this game
Yeeeaaarrgh, and here I am stuck at George airport, Cape Town fogged in. Maritzburg would be a much better destination today.
Affies by 20 and College by 15, home ground advantage and superior teams. Roger will attack me on this probably but it’s an honest gut feel, Affies are powerful this year….