Paarl Gim vs Boland Landbou : live stream : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txQtHtg2ypQ
| TIME | DATE | SCHOOL | SCHOOL | EVENT | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed.06Apr | Volkskool Heidelberg | 33 | 12 | Brits | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Northwood | 8 | 39 | DHS | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Glenwood | 65 | 9 | Framesby | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Westville | 0 | 62 | Affies | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Clifton | 15 | 10 | St Charles | ||
| Sat.09Apr | George Campbell | 24 | 44 | Voortrekker (Pmb) | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Pearson | 18 | 14 | Oudtshoorn | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Stirling | 12 | 60 | Dale | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Muir | 17 | 22 | Union | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Queen’s | 25 | 15 | Marlow | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Hudson Park | 17 | 8 | Cambridge | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Gill | 31 | 41 | Graeme | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Selborne | 38 | 5 | Grens | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Grey College | 60 | 13 | Maritzburg College | ||
| Sat.09Apr | HTS Welkom | 10 | 19 | AHS Kroonstad | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Kroonstad | 0 | 57 | Hentie Cilliers | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Goudveld | 17 | 20 | Witteberg | ||
| Sat.09Apr | HTS Sasolburg | 0 | 56 | Voortrekker (Beth) | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Louis Botha | 10 | 10 | Sentraal | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Jim Fouche | 48 | 7 | Fichardtpark | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Landboudal | 19 | 28 | Noord-Kaap | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Duineveld | 15 | 21 | Diamantveld | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Welkom Gim | 70 | 7 | Wilgerivier | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Wonderboom | 20 | 20 | Middelburg | PUK Prestige Reeks | |
| Sat.09Apr | HTS Witbank | 9 | 3 | Montana | Pukke Prestige | |
| Sat.09Apr | Potch Gim | 34 | 15 | Die Anker | Pukke Prestige | |
| Sat.09Apr | Lichtenburg | 22 | 22 | Noordheuwel | Pukke Prestige | |
| Sat.09Apr | Jeugland | 46 | 15 | Randburg | Pukke Prestige | |
| Sat.09Apr | Zwartkop | 35 | 20 | Potch Volkskool | Pukke Prestige | |
| Sat.09Apr | Oosterlig | 24 | 31 | Driehoek | Pukke Prestige | |
| Sat.09Apr | Kempton Park | 16 | 43 | Monument | Tuks Reeks | |
| Sat.09Apr | Garsfontein | 71 | 0 | Marais Viljoen | Tuks Reeks | |
| Sat.09Apr | EG Jansen | 45 | 3 | Menlopark | Tuks Reeks | |
| Sat.09Apr | Nelspruit | 45 | 27 | Pietersburg | Tuks Reeks | |
| Sat.09Apr | Florida | 17 | 41 | Rustenburg | Tuks Reeks | |
| Sat.09Apr | Eldoraigne | 28 | 22 | HTS Middelburg | Tuks Reeks | |
| Sat.09Apr | Klerksdorp | 20 | 17 | Centurion | Tuks Reeks | |
| Sat.09Apr | Jeppe | 59 | 18 | Pretoria BH | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Frikkie Meyer | 18 | 22 | Oos-Moot | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Hans Moore | 17 | 32 | Volkskool Heidelberg | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Hugenote (Springs) | 25 | 22 | Wesvalia | Pukke Prestige | |
| Sat.09Apr | Paul Roos | 36 | 21 | Grey HS | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Bellville | 14 | 25 | Tygerberg | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Bishops | 30 | 23 | Brackenfell | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Langenhoven Gim | 10 | 13 | Nico Malan | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Oakdale | 48 | 8 | Daniel Pienaar | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Outeniqua | 27 | 29 | HJS Paarl BH | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Paarl Gim | 34 | 14 | Boland Landbou | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Rondebosch | 29 | 8 | Wynberg | ||
| Sat.09Apr | SACS | 45 | 13 | Durbanville | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Stellenberg | 78 | 3 | DF Malan | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Strand | 38 | 7 | Primrose | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Parel Vallei | 49 | 5 | Milnerton | ||
| Sat.09Apr | Worcester Gim | 17 | 9 | Swartland |
@AffieOuer: Ek hou werklik van wat jy hier skryf en hoop werklik almal neem dit ter harte.
Ek dink nie dit is ‘n preek nie, maar wat elkeen behoort te doen.
Ek glo ook meeste bloggers sal optree soos in jou skrywe mits die waarheid verkondig word pleks van verskonings/leuens/sarkasme/halwe waarhede om iemand te beskerm/ens. op te dis as redes vir ‘n gebeurtenis.
Jy sal merk dat bloggers hoofsaaklik reageer op stellings wat verdag is – en dit is goed want dit sal almal 2 keer laat dink.
@Affiedorp: Nee, Affiedorp, jy het gevra vir ‘n voorstel en ek het een gegee – met net 2 voorbeelde. Natuurlik sal dit great wees as dieselfde in die Centurion-omgewing ook kan gebeur.
Punt is as 2 of meer skole in Pretoria/Centurion saamgroepeer kan hulle vir Affies saam op die dag 25 of so spanne gee. Dan baat almal mos – almal speel teen Affies en Affies kan gereeld met bykans al hul spanne meer plaaslike wedstryde speel.
Jis, ek het lanklaas in my lewe so skaam gekry soos vanoggend toe ek die blog lees!!!! Manne, ja ek sê “manne” (nie “kinders” nie), julle ALMAL gedra julle swak en kinderagtig. Genugtig, ek wil glo julle is almal erens ‘n seun se rolmodel vir wie julle graag ‘n voorbeeld wil stel? Hier word tekere gegaan soos ‘n klomp honger honde wat baklei vir een been – nee man, Pta en SA is groot genoeg dat ons wragtig die son oor almal kan sien skyn. Elke skool wat hier in 407 comments genoem word het ‘n rugby inbors wat met trots in sy skool bevorder word. Ons hoef nie met mekaar se fixures/keuses saam te stem nie, ons hoef nie te bespiegel oor hoeveel seuns en hoeveel spanne ‘n skool kan bied nie en ons hoef regtig nie in mekaar se karakter in te klim nie. Elke skool in en om Pta is goeie skole, die geneuk is dat ouers nie die son oor ‘n ander skool kan sien skyn nie – wees vir ‘n slag eerlik teenoor jouself en erken dat jy net soveel deel is van die problem eerder as die oplossing…
Ek skryf nie hierdie kommentaar om nou weer ‘n stortvloed van kommentaar uit te lok nie, dink in elk geval die woordeboek se woorde is nou al uitgeput. Nee ek hoop eerder dat ek hiermee julle tot stilstand stem om ‘n bietjie na te dink en soos opgevoede grootmense op te tree wat nie in mekaar of skole se karakter inklim nie.
Daar is baie dinge wat ons nie kan beheer nie maar ons het wel volle beheer oor hoe ons optree…dis ‘n keuse….
Moet asb nie teenoor my reageer van “ja maar dit” en “ja maar dat” nie…CHANGE STARTS WITH YOU!
Nou het ek klaar gepreek – mag elke span vandag op vol potensiaal speel en beseringsvry van die veld afstap. Mag elke seun die voorreg om in sy skool se trui uit te draf met trots en durf op die rugbyveld maak tel.
Vir die wat die wil weet en siende dat die hoeveelheid spanne n topic of discussion is. Stellenberg speel vandag tuis met 15 spanne. Die meese ooit vir die skool. Ons speel wel teen 3 verskillende opponente maar almal speel ten minste. Nou moet die wp unie net besef dat ons kompeterende games soek dan sal dinge perfek wees.
@4×4: Ag ou 4×4 jy mis alweer die hele punt…1) kom ek op vir my skool (359) en twee ondersteun ek die siening dat die 28 spanne nie sin maak nie…maar ja elkeen vir homself.
Re Menlo spanne kan ek jou statistiek gee dat ons gereeld tot 13 spanne in die veld stoot.
Amper oppad Middelburg toe…sterkte en geniet die rugby.
En as julle mooi vra kan ons seker nog ‘n c-span in elke ouderdomsgroep bymekaarskraap, so 12 spanne moontlik….en dan wys julle , jul ondersteun julle sub-unie….die Limpopo Bulle
Ons bring sommer vir Merensky saam, tussen ons sal ons wel 24 spanne kan optower….klink na goie plan vir my..lol
Dus Diamantveld bring 8 spanne(!) en Tuine dra 7 by as ek reg kyk.
Net 15 wedstryde in totaal, hel slegs 8 spanne van DV?
Ek is seker Garsies kan op sy eie meer spanne as DV en Tuine saam gee!
Maak dit nie ‘n bietjie van ‘n mockery van jul stated aim om al 28 spanne speelkans te gee nie, dan speel julle teen ‘n skool wat ‘n lousy 8 spanne bring?
hierdie is vir my verbasend…but who am I to judge
Nooi maar vlge keer vir Ben Vorster, ons is klein maar het darem 9 spanne…lol
For what its worth hier is bepalingslys vir Affies teen Diamantveld/HTS Tuine
http://www.affiesrugby.co.za/blog/affies-vs-diamantveld-hts-tuine-bepalings-16-april-2016
Sorry..016’s speel net 25 min per kant, so ‘n 100 tal is omtrent wat jy teen 14 poppe en 1 ou wat elke keer bal afskop behoort te kry…lol…die arme laaities!
@4×4: die probleem met jou stelling is in statsistieke te bespeur…….dit is vir my moeilik om te verstaan wat baat dit om teen Westville te speel……ok, hulle gee julle 25 wedstryde…….maar teen watse prys?
Affies vs Westville played 25 won 25 lost 0
Points for 1090 points against 90
paar tellings 014E w 65-0
015E w 82-0
016f w 101-0
7des w 73-0
Nou wat baat sulke tellings enige iemand?…..ek waarborg jou dat elke Ville speler in 016 F span elke sekonde van hul wedstryd gehaat het…..om in 30 minuut aan ‘n kant wedstryde met 100 te verloor, beteken jy staan maar net en kyk hoe teenstanders na elke afskop ‘n drie gaan druk
Julle laer spanne het net so ver teen Helpmekaar gewen…..hulle 014 en 015A spanne wen julle, maar hulle c spanne verloor met 70 punte.
Maar vroer vanjaar het julle 5 spanne teen Ben Viljoen van Groblersdal laat speel……3 gewen 2 verloor
Julle 015c verloor teen Ben Viljoen se 015A 24-29….klink na puik wedstryd
julle 8ste span wen Westville 53-0, terwyl hul 42-19 teen Ben viljoen se 2es verloor
julle 3e span wen w/ville 53-0, terwyl selfde span Ben Viljoen se 1stes 42-24 wen.
So terwyl se 15 van julle spanne teen garsies of menlo speel kan die ander 10 spanne spanne terselfdertyd teen Ben Viljoen of Sutherland of wie ook al speel, al 25 of 28 spanne kry speelkans, maar meer nb…dit kan so uitgewerk word dat daar beter kompetisie is, en meer krag teen krag wedstryde is.
Is dit dan nie presies wat julle doen deur die naweek teen Diamantveld EN Tuine gelyktydig te speel nie? en tuine gaan veel meer kompetisie bied vir laer spanne…….so vervang Diamantveld met enige van Garsies, menlo, Eg of monnas…sit Tuine by en Bob’s your uncle…al jul spanne kry speelkans op selfde venue.
Maar ek is ‘n buitestaander, almal moet maar doen wat hul dink reg is….ek voel net daar is ruimte om julle groot derby’s teen GCB, Glenwood, College nog steeds te speel, maar ook nie jou wortels en jou eie streek te vergeet nie, daar is ruimte vir albei…..
Dis ook nie of julle 28 spanne St John’s festival of Wildeklawer toe vat nie…..daar speel jule Paul Roos, Paarl boys etc…..soos wat garsies, monnas, Eg etc ook maar doen….net die 1ste spanne en paar a spanne betrokke.
Maar nou ja, each to its own…doen maar wat julle dink reg is, dit is net ‘n game
Watse Affie bashing? Die gesprek tot post 359 was interessant met humor en respek….
Ek sien Cappie en AbsolutMenlo stamp alleen koppe oor 28 spanne, ontrekkings ens…..dit behoort nie eers ‘n argument te wees nie want Menlo kan net kompeterende rugby in hulle onderouderdom groepe speel…dus sou hulle laas jaar dan net 3 spanne vir Affies kon gee en nie 12 soos beweer word nie…..
@slagter: Ek het beslis geen affie bashing soos jy dit noem gedoen nie, bloot net n paar feite uitgelig… my opinie is dat die 28 span storie niks met die feit te doen het dat affies nie teen spesifiek garsies speel nie… ek het verder gegaan deur te sê dat dit affies se keuse is… as jy dit ervaar as affie bashing vra ek om verskoning…
Van die ander manne lyk egter nogal lus om mekaar te bash…
Die seuns in affies kan nie help wat die skool besluit nie.ek weet my seun en almal in affies sal teen enige skool speel en julle affie bashing help niemand nie mismien voel sekere mense net beter oir hulself om affies sleg te maak. Onthou die seuns lees ook die blog. Ek dink almal sal wonder oor affies garsies of menlo ens. Maar affie bashing help help niemand
@Calamari: Ek stem
Hi Cappie, met daardie eidetiese dinkwerk kan jy nie tokkel voel nie.
@Skoorsteen: Venynig
@Skoorsteen: Nee wat nie een van die twee…ek was nie eers betrokke by die gesprek nie toe word Menlo deur ‘n Affie in getrek, venynig (359) en dan die comment waarna jy verwys is ‘n antwoord op waar ‘n Affie ‘n opinie lewer dat ander skole in Pretoria nie rugby bevorder nie (389)
@AbsolutMenlo: Absuluut veneinig of absolute jaloers? Ek wonder
@akw: Amen!
Menlo is 2014 en 2015 deur Grey verwelkom en vir die seuns, alhoewel hulle sleg verloor het, was dit van hulle beste rugby herinneringe.
Die ironie is dat Grey steeds teen die ander skole in Bloemfontein speel, self al het die skole nie 28 spanne nie.
En as ek na die kommentaar op hierdie thread kyk van sekere bloggers verstaan ek die verskil tussen Grey en Affies nou beter.
@Affiedorp: Baie eenvoudig van die 600 seuns is daar nog 8 hokkie spanne en verskeie seuns wat spesialiseer in hulle individuele sportsoorte…golf, swem, fietsry, atletiek, krieket en nog baie ander.
Met alle respek Menlo het glad nie hierdie oordrewe begeerte om teen Affies te speel nie glo my…! Die gesprek het begin met ‘n verwysing na Affies as die rugby skool in Pretoria terwyl hulle nie rugby teen Pretoria speel nie.
Sterkte met julle 28 spanne teen Diamantveld more…
Dit is dus jou opinie dat rugby en dan ook ander sport soorte nie deur ander skole in Pretoria bevorder word nie.
Interessant dat ons nog nie rankings het vir die skool met die meeste spanne nie.
Ek wonder of die Sunwolves na vanaand n koshuis gaan bou.
@akw: lyk my jou “handle”moes eerder speartackle gewees het
@akw: Stem saam jou. Almal weet Affies is bang om teen Garsies te speel, ek wens die Pta skole wil ophou om so gat te kruip net om teen Affies te speel. Het lankal my respek vir Affies verloor.
@Djou: Nou wat van die ander Pretoria skole of is Centurion en die skole anderkant die Magalies nie deel van Pretoria nie.
Nee wat ek dink as die behoefte werklik bestaan om op n gereelde grondslag teen Affies te speel sou die Pretoria skole lankal meer geïnvesteer het om hulle diepte te ontwikkel en dus meer spanne in die veld kon stoot. Ek dink daar word te veel gepraat en te min gedoen..As Boland Landbou met 300 seuns 20 spanne aanmekaar kan sit laat ek my nie vertel dat n skool met 600 seuns dit nie ook kan doen nie.
Te veel verskonings en vingerwysing na Affies gaan nie rugby in Pretoria ontwikkel nie. Dis nou al 10 jaar dat Affies nie meer Beeld ens voorts speel nie maar daardie gaping is nie werklik deur enige skool gevul nie.Daar was en is nog n guldige geleentheid. Lekkeraand verder, gaan nou bietjie netbal kyk.
@Vyfster: Love it!! Laat elkeen maar vir hom/haar self besluit
@Affiedorp: ja, ek het nou maar die eerstes wat by my opgekom het na gekyk…..statistieke bly maar statistieke….interessante tydsverdryf.
Op ou einde is dit alles nie so nb nie….al wat ek weet, is dat ek wat in Witbank bly, in my kar sal klim en pta of jhb toe sal ry as Affies teen Garsies of Monnas speel…dink daar is duisende soos ek….terwyl ek nou nie petrol gaan mors om te sien hoe julle met 80 teen PBHS wen, of met 50 of 60 teen Maritsburg of Westville nie…..selfs jul wedstryd teen Grey Bloem prikkel nie werklik my belangstelling nie….daar is niks wat by ‘n plaaslike derby kom mits dit tussen kompeterende spanne is…..julle lang geskiedenis teen PBHS noop julle om aan te hou, maar vader weet, dit kan nie vir hulle lekker wees om amper elke wedstryd naby 100 punte af te staan nie.
@Vyfster: Dink dis belangrik om die volgende by te sit. Jy het Nelspruit uitgelos sedert 2005 speel 5 keer waarvan Affies 5 wen. Affies/EG speel 4 keer waarvan Affies al 4 wen. Wat nogal vir my intresant was is die Affies/Gery oor die laaste 5jaar 5 gespeel waarvan Affies 3 gewen het(sê nie veel nie net intresant).
@RnR: gee Affies krediet, hulle het ‘n briljante rugby blad http://www.affiesrugby.co.za/ as jy daar op tuis blad is kan jy afgaan na skole teen gespeel dan na uitslae per jaar…daar sal jy elke skool alfabeties kry en elke 1ste span uitslag wat hul ooit teen betrokke skool gespeel het’
Wens alle skole het so deeglike blad gehad!
Ek probeer ook nie Affies sleg maak nie, maar as jy na bloggers kyk van buite Noordvaal, verkeer hul vas onder die indruk dat Affies altyd by verre die sterkste 1ste span in Noordvaal het…dit is allermins waar, soos die afgelope dekades se uitslae toon……hierdie jaar het hul moontlik die sterkste span in SA, maar 2014 sou hul sukkel om ‘n wedstryd plaaslik te wen.
Die dekade van 1995-2005, toe rugby proffessioneel geword het, was Affies gewis die top span in Noordvaal….die 75 jaar voor dit was hul maar net 1 van baie skole wat so eenkeer in 10 jaar gemiddeld die Admin kon wen…..en die dekade van 2005 het die ander skole teruggekom, soos uitslae duidelik blyk.
Affies was altyd redelik sterk, maar slegs daardie 1 dekade het hul oorheers…..nou gaan ek op geheue, maar kyk maar na historiese uitslae teen bv Oos-moot…dink 5 oorwinnings elk, of Rustenburg dink 18 gewen, 17 verloor.
So ek wil met niemand baklei nie, maar ek dink Affies sou gesukkel het om Beeld te wen in laaste 10 jaar…maar ons sal nooit weet nie, ‘n groot jammerte vir my…..ten minste moet hulle darem jaarliks teen Monnas en Garsfontein ook speel…dit is wat die publiek wil sien , sal dit nou nie lekker wees nie!
Het julle manne gesien hoe mooi dag is dit vir boom klim?
@Cappie: Ek dink jy is ‘n verleentheid vir Affies.
@Vyfster: Wow! Indrukwekkend… jou google is op gummiebeariejuice!!!
@Vyfster: Waar kan ek al daai data in die hande kry?
@Vyfster: Pragtige stats, dankie! ek gee vir jou ‘n Vyfster!
Darem het julle ‘n jaarlikse fixture teen Helpies begin, wat op daardie stadium nog nooit Beeld trofee vir groot skole kon wen nie…..en julle 13 games kan gee…..Gelukkig het Helpies uiteindelik laas jaar beeld gewen, al is dit nog in groot en nie makro skole afdeling nie
@Cappie: Ons verstaan tot mate wat julle se…..probleem is, dit skep die indruk dat Affies bang is om teen ander PTA en Noordvaal se groot honde te speel.
Ek se nie dit is so nie….maar daardie persepsie is daar by buitestaanders.
Wat se die syfers die laaste 10 jaar of so? ….vandat affies uit Beeld onttrek het
Hulle het vir 6 jaar glad nie teen Waterkloof gespeel nie, maar sedert 2012 toe Kloof begin agteruitgaan het wel jaarliks teen hulle gespeel…..4 wedstryde 2 oorwinnings elk dus 50% wenrekord teen Kloof.
Dit terwyl kloof nie juis hond haaraf kon maak in Beeld nie.
Affies het sedert 2005 sporadies teen Monnas gespeel….5 keer, waarvan hul 4 verloor het en 1 gelykop was…Dus 0% wenrekord teen Monnas in die tydstip.
Die enigste ander Noordvaal makro skool teen wie Affies sedert 2005 5 of meer wedstryde gespeel het is HTS Middelburg…..speel 6 keer Affies verloor 4 keer!…Dus 33% wenrekord.
HTSM kon nooit Beeld wen in daardie tydperk nie
Dus sedert 2005 het Affies 15 keer teen Monnas, HTSM en Kloof gespeel….hulle kon net 4 daarvan wen.
Nou ja, dis ‘n wenrekord van so 27%……Dis hoekom party mense glo dat Affies dan eerder teen Diamantveld gaan speel wat minder spanne as Garsies, Menlo of EG het…of teen soutie engelse spanne wat mens met 60 punte kan wen.
@AbsolutMenlo: Thanks
@Cappie: Sterkte met julle 28 spanne teen Diamantveld die naweek…
@AbsolutMenlo: Absolut tikkel tikkel…
@Cappie: Geen kommentaar gehad tot jy Menlo weer in gesleep het.
@Djou: Djou as almal maar net jou rugbyvisie gehad het! Of nie!
@AbsolutMenlo: Absoluttrue!
Vere, vere, ons voel vere
die ander gaan te kere, maar ons voel vere.
Lekker, lekker, ons voel lekker
Die ander rek hul bekke en ons voel lekker.
Tikkel, tikkel ons voel tokkel.
Die ander voel bokkerol, maar ons voel tokkel…
@Cappie: Soos ek se dan cancel Affies WEER!
Ek wens julle wil net aangaan met julle liga wedstryde en dit geniet. Los Affies uit… Hulle wil nie teen julle speel nie, en hulle gee in elk geval nie ‘n flenter om nie.
@AbsolutMenlo: Veral as Woodhill meer spanne gaan stuur as julle.
@kosie: Ek hou van jou voorstel dis tenmiste positief. Ek dink net nie dit gaan die oplossing wees nie aangesien dit net een dag is en net een wedstryd per span. Dit kan dalk werk as dit oor n aantal naweke strek. Maar dan gaan dit beteken dat of die Tuks of Beeld trofee in die slag gaan kom.
@Djou wag nog vir jou voorstel ?
@Djou: Djou, jy is ‘n meester met jou oplossings. Bel die Dok!
@Cappie: …dan cancel Affies WEER!?
@Calamari: Wie gaan die Underdogs wees. Die een wat 28 wedstryde onoorwonne is, of die een wat net 16 is?
@Djou: Dankie Djou, hoeveel spanne stuur Menlo dan? Weer 9?
@Affiedorp:
Dit is redelik maklik om op te los.
Affies teen Garsies/Wilgers = minstens 25 spanne en Affies teen Menlo/Doxa/Woodhill = minstens 25 spanne.
So, as daar ‘n wil is, is daar ‘n weg!
Dit sal 2 bykomende wedstryddae wees waar die meeste spanne speelkans kry.
@Valkie: Jy is 200% reg. Dit gaan wees soos om Tafelberg te voet uit te hardloop, amper n onmoontlike taak, maar ons manne sal koppe af hou, hard werk en altyd hulle beste gee! Boishaai het altyd n kans, ons het n knap afrigter so ek glo die manne sal die bitter min swakplekke in Affies se mondering probeer oopvlek.
@Calamari: Ek hoop dit bly nie bn n gefluitery nie. Ek dink dis n bakgat idee.
@Calamari: HJS en Affies speel mos in die Wildeklawerreeks teen mekaar of het ek dit verkeerd?
@PaarlBok: Dit is nogals indrukwekkend ja, wel hulle is ook die skool met die meeste seuns ook.
@Calamari: Net so terloops, PRG het die meeste hokkiespanne (20) in die Wes Kaap.
@Rugbyman: HJS/Boishaai sal ook 28 wedstryde vir julle kan gee manne
Ek het n voeltjie hoor fluit, HJS oorweeg dit opnuut om teen Affies te speel, neem kennis dat afstand wel n uitdaging is.
@Affiedorp: Ek het nou na julle uitslae gaan kyk van laasjaar… Die enigste skool teen wie Affies vir al hulle 28 spanne kon games gee was teen Grey Bloem… Die res lyk soos volg:
Helpmekaar – 13 games
Westville – 25 games
KES – 22 games
Waterkloof – 18 games
Jeppe – 20 games
Maritzburg – 24 games
Glennwood – 18 games
Pta Boys High – 22 games
Dan speel julle D-spanne en laer soms ook in die week games teen skole soos Oos-Moot, FH Odendal, Zwartkop ens. omdat hulle min ander games kry…
Jou 28 games naweek in en naweek uit dra ongelukkig nie water nie. Dit gebeur slegs eenkeer ‘n jaar dat al 28 spanne saam speel… Gemiddeld speel julle net met 20 spanne op ‘n naweek. Vroeer jare het garsies se B, C en D spanne ook teen affies in die week gespeel maar dis ook gestaak van affies se kant af. Soos genoem is dit julle keuse teen wie julle wil speel, maar dit het niks te doen met die 28 span beginsel nie, want dan sal julle jaarliks NET teen Grey speel!
@Calamari: ‘dink
@kokkie: Jy sal wel by Gim sien dat hulle laer spanne soos bv die 0/14, o/15 en 0/16 maar sukkel, daar word sterk klem op hulle eerste span geplaas. Bv, Jaarliks wen Gim maar n handjievol wedstryde teen HJS.
Die prestasies word weerspieel in die getal spelers en spanne wat hulle maar in die veld kan stoot. Onthou, Gim het meer so 550-600 seuns dink ek. Persoonlik dik ek Gim se eerste doen ongelooflik goed, gegee hulle getalle (wat rugby speel)
@kokkie: By Landbou speel almal rugby, hulle het nie hokkie nie….
@kosie: Ek hou baie van die idee, daar is tans 10 Makro skole in Pretoria (600 seuns en meer) en seker 10 Groot skole ook.
Noem dit n Pretoria rugbydag en al die games word by Tuks gespeel wat almal maklik kan akkomodeer, hulle kan selfs Blou Bul proewe hou terselfdetyd.
Borge sal tou staan vir so n idee.
@Calamari: haha jys reg, maar 500 meer as Boland, ook meer as Gim
Ek moet darem byse, Grey High het net 800 seuns..
@PaarlBok: sjoe net die twee games verloor, dis glad nie sleg nie veral teen Grey PE! Well done boytjies!
PRG vs Grey High uitslae
U14D won 68-0
U14C won 35-10
U14B won 21-7
U14A lost 12-18
U15E won 19-17
U15D won 45-0
U15C won 12-7
U15B won 17-0
U15A won 20-14
U16E won 43-5 vs Grey PE u16D
U16C won 83-0
U16B won 39-14
U16A won 23-7
U19I won 75-0 vs Grey 7th
U19F won 73-0
U19E won 57-7
U19D won 47-0
U19C won 22-17
U19B lost 24-28
U19A won 36-21
@Affiedorp: Ek dink ‘n mens moet Affies se siening eerbiedig oor die feit dat hulle vir al hulle spanne wedstryde wil reel oor ‘n naweek. Vir my maak dit sin dat jy graag wil hê alle spanne moet speel.
Die realiteit is dat eintlik net PBHS dalk hier in PTA genoeg spanne het om teen Affies te kan speel. Wat ek graag sou wou sien is dat daar bv ‘n rugby dag is waar vetskeie PTA skole wel meeding by een skool en al die Affie spanne speel. Bv (net ‘n voorstel) As die a en b spanne teen bv Garsfontein speel c en d dalk teen a en b van Oos Moot e,f teen Uitsig a,b en dat daai skole se eerstespanne dan teen Affie 3/4 spanne speel.
Die swem mense kry dit reg en swem Affies in die a bond tot die d bond. So ding hulle mee met ander PTA skole. Ek dink ons moet eerder oplossings probeer kry sodat Affies wel teen PTA skole kan speel. Ek kan nie namens ander praat nie maar ek dink baie seuns sal graag teen ‘n Affie span wil speel.
As jy my seun vra watter skole wedstryde staan vir hom uit waarin hy gespeel het sê hy die Affie game by Affies en die wedstryd op Grey Bloem as laerskool seun omdat hy darem kan sê hy het ‘n drie op altwee velde gedruk.Sekerlik moet ons probeer om meer sulke herineringe te skep
@Rugbyman: Ek persoonlik hou baie van wat julle by garsies gedoen het want dit is ń puik skool met alles akademie ens. En persoonlik wil ek hê affies moet teen garsies en menlo speel en dit verander dalk met n nuwe hoof. Ons hoop so. Die hoeveelheid spanne is n probleem. Maar nou is diamantveld hier wat net sowel garsies of menlo eldo ens kon gewees het dit maak nie sin nie.sterke vir julle vir saterdag hou pretoria se naam hoog!
@Rugbyman: Hierdie punt gaan glad nie oor Garsfontein nie maar wel oor voorstelle oor hoe Affies teen meer Pretoria skole kan speel in ag genome dat daar elke Saterdag vir al 28+ spanne wedstryde is. As ek reg is het Affies tot so onlangs as 2006 nog Beeld trofee gespeel maar die besluit is geneem dat om diepte te ontwikkel dit nodig is om vir al die spanne wedstryde te gee. Soos jy self sê rugbyman Affies was deel van Beeld trofee asook die mitchlin/superpower wat vandag die TUKS reeks is. Maar hierdie 2reekse maak slegs voorsiening vir A en B spanne. En dit is nie goed vir rugby ontwikkeling nie. Hierdie sisteem van Affies werk vir Affies. Kom ek gee vir jou n relefante voorbeeld. Piere Spies het as o/14 speler in die E span begin en kyk waar is hy vandag. In die huidige 1st span wat Saterdag speel is daar 2 seuns wat o/14 in die D span was. Kom ons hou by die punt en gee voorstelle oor hoe Affies met al sy spanne teen meer Pretoria skole kan speel.
@slagter: @Affiedorp: Ek wil rerig nie weer die debat betree nie… maar dit was geen probleem in die 90s en vroee 2000s toe affies nog in die beeld trofee gespeel het nie… pretoria skole kon toe ook nie 28 spanne verskaf nie en ek verstout my om te sê dat ek dink affies se b en c spanne die meeste skole in die land sal kole gee vanwee julle diepte met meer as 1200 seuns… dit behoort so te wees… ek dink DJOU se vraag is net dat julle wel teen ander skole speel wat nie 28 spanne kan gee nie. Maar dit bly julle keuse teen wie julle wil speel. Snaaks genoeg sal garsfontein van al die gemengde skole in pretoria vir julle die meeste spanne kan gee… julle weet en ons weet dat die ware rede hoekom affies nie teen ons speel nie maar baie min te doen het met die hoeveelheid spanne… kom ons aanvaar dit so en laat dit daar…
Wat ek jou wel kan verseker is dat die laaste 4 jaar se games tussen affies en garsies great rugby sou gewees het wat deur almal geniet sou word! Dit is jammer dat die games nie plaasvind nie!
Groetnis
@Affiedorp: ek het met personeel lid die week gepraat by affies. Affies kan 36 spanne in die veld stoot. So ek dink dis vreemd hoekom ander sukkel,boland landbou 320 seuns 20 spanne oakdale 400 seuns 20 spanne paarl gim gemengde skool 22 spanne hoekom sukkel die ander in pretoria so,nou sê die mense affies sal harde bene kou teen menlo se junior spanne ja die A span dalk maar dan verloor hulle ander spanne met 30 plus soos teen Helpmekaar.so wat wil jy bewys?
@Djou: Wat is jou voorstel? Affies het elke Saterdag 28 spanne wat wil en kan speel maar die meeste skole in Pretoria het net 8, wat sê jy vir die seuns van die ander 20 spanne? Wanneer Affies teen skole speel wat nie 28 spanne in die veld kan stoot nie word daar vir die spanne wat nie wedstryde het nie, waar moontlik, wedstryde gereeld teen n ander skool soos byvoorbeeld hierdie naweek teen Diamantveld en Tuine maar dit is nie altyd prakties moontlik nie. Ek sal graag wil weet wat jou voorstel is?
@Affiedorp: Soos Waterkloof?
@Djou: Jy het n punt, en dit is werklik jammer dat daar nie meer wedstryde tussen Affies en ander Pretoria skole is nie.Maar dit gesê ondersteun ek Affies se besluit 100%, aangesien ek die groter prentjie verstaan en gesien het hoe die seuns die vrugte hiervan pluk en vir baie jare nog gaan pluk. Ek dink as daar meer skole in Pretoria was wat 28 spanne in die veld kan stoot sou Affies beslis teen hulle gespeel het.
@Affiedorp: Om die kroon as Pretoria se rugbyskool te dra sal Affies eers teen al die skole moet speel. Affies se onder-ouderdomspanne sou harde bene teen Menlo gekou het en ‘n wedstryd tussen Affies en Garsies se eerste spanne sou ook aanskoulik gewees het.
Terloops, Garsies se tennisspan het ook vir Affies geklop!!
@4×4: So waar ding wat jy sê. Saterdag kyk ek Garsies teen ‘n ander skool en sit tussen die ander skool se toeskouers. En die woorde wat hulle die skeidsregter en die Garsiespelers toegesnou het was jammerlik. Wanneer dit gebeur wonder ek altyd hoe hulle gedrag as skoolseuns was!
@4×4: @Spear: Ek het Quinn Roux baie hoog aangeslaan en was baie verbaas dat eerstens die Bulle hom toegelaat het om Stormers toe te gaan en toe dat die Stormers hom laat gaan het om in Ierland te speel.
@Speartackle: Die Affies manne sprei hulle vlerke wyd…..dink ons dalk alhoemeer Suid-Afrikaners vir ander lande sien uitdraf….ons misken mos goeie talent
Ek sien Quinn Roux ook ingesluit in die Ierse toerspan na SA in Junie
@BOG: Al die underdogs is altyd my spanne………..hierdie jaar gaan ek nogal baie vir Grey moet skree
@Speartackle: Soos Doeppie destyds. Toe “verdwyn” hy sommer
@Speartackle: Nou wat het jy met Monnas te make? Is dit nie AT se span nie? Of het jy die verkeerde rekenaar gegryp?
Jip, Monnas speel ook al heeljaar sonder 3 of 4 staatmakers maar niemand moan nie.
Cowboys don’t cry……and especially not in front of their horses
@Calamari: Dis verseker ‘n gevoelige slag, maar daar is gelukkig vanjaar genoeg diepte om die normale persentasie beserings te hanteer. Verlede jaar was hopenlik die uitsondering. Soos jy noem het HJS ook maar sy beserings probleme en daar sal defnitief ander skole ook wees wat deur die seisoen hul kwota beserings opdoen. Mens voel sleg vir kinders en die span, maar dis die lewe.
@akw:
@Speartackle: Moet nou nie idees in sy kop plaas nie.
As ek die ou Dok was stop ek sommer summier alle aktiwiteite teen Pta
@4×4: Ek het altyd daarvan gehou om agter die pale te staan met wedstryde en ek kan jou belowe dat ek nog omtrent nooit nie kraswoorde gehoor het nie……..van laerskool games tot superspogsnobskole. Daai woorde vloei maar….selfs van dominee kinders
@Speartackle: Kru taalgebruik? Kan julle asb vir my die name van die skole tender waar seuns nie soms op die sportsveld kru taalgebruik nie….of word dit net tot Affies beperk?
Myns insiens is die probleem dat Affies as ‘n soort benchmark deur ander skole gesien word…vader alleen weet hoekom….gaan kyk maar na vorige menings dat die kinders tog net die voorreg wou gehad het om teen Affies te speel……
Elke skool in Pretoria is blerrie goed in eie reg…Kloof, Menlo, Garsies ens.
Ons kan ook nie die kinders in die skole die gedrag van hulle ouers toerekening, ne! Dit blyk dat die ouers meer gaande is oor die skole se prestige as die kinders self.
Ek dink Affies moet gladnie meer in enige sport teen ander Pta skole deelneem. As n mens sien hoe die ander skole tekere gaan as hul Affies wen is dit nie meer n plesier nie.
@Affiedorp: As julle praat van Pretoria se hokkie skool vergeet julle dalk vir Boys High. En as die ander spanne wil leer van “gracious in defeat” kan hulle gerus by Boys High gaan leer!
Eldos het laas jaar met ‘n vloekskoot vir Boys High gewen 4 vs 3 en na die tyd het die Boys High span eerstens vir die Eldo ondersteuners hande geklap en toe vir die Eldo span. Hoendervleis oomblik vir almal teenwoordig gewees!
@Bere007: Nie ‘n eerste vir die Affie span nie. 2 jaar terug toe Eldos hulle 2 nul wen op hulle veld het die seuns ook begin vloek onder mekaar. Pressure doen snaakse dinge…
@Calamari: Ten minste met n Kodesa II- hierdie keer met mense wie nie uitsluitlik belangstel in hulle pensioene nie, en met die huidige chaos en verval in gedagte. Maar dit sal nie gebeur nie en ek het dus groot twyfel OF dit reggeruk kan word. Ons is inderdaad maar net nog n Afrikaland.Die aanduidings is NIE.@Die Ken: OK, so jy verwys dan na verlede jaar, 2015. Ek is nie naby Bloemfontein nie, maar ek het gehoor dat die lys van beserings onder die voorste aanspraakmakers, hier by 30 te staan gekom het. Daar was dus beslis heelwat “derdes” wie speelkans gekry het in die Eerste span. Maar, niemand stry nie- hulle het die skool as Eerstes verteenwoordig
@Die Ken: Ek moet bieg die Sharke speel darem glad nie mooi rugaa nie
@akw: Soos Gary Gold en sy ou vrot vis spannetjie
@BOG: Dit het nerens gestaan nie. Wat ek se is, volgens Nelio, was dit oorspronklik die Cherries, en toe Cherries + 3es ens ens ens. Sy lys van beseerdes in 2015 groei elke keer so bietjie-vir-bietjie
@BOG: Hoe stel jy voor ruk ons die land dan reg?
@Calamari: Is dit OG Ruan se seun?
@4×4: Ek het agter die doelhok gestaan so sou nie sie vloermoer van die afrigter gesien het nie. Maar dit sou die seuns se bevraagtekening van ref besluite verklaar. Daai vis en kop storie.
@Calamari: Te lank geneem om oor die trauma te kom van bly in die Kaap,(US), en dan nog boonop vir WP te ondersteun, dat ek die plek vermy. Na al die jare, word ek nog steeds van tyd tot tyd wakker met n koue sweet. Ek sal dus nie daar wees nie, allermins in die wintermaande. Dit lyk my jou standaardantwoord wanneeer jy in n hoek is, is “lets agree to disagree”. Ek gee nie om watter politieke standpunte mense inneem nie, solank dit gestaaf kan word deur waarheid en nie politieke bedrog nie. Miskien leen jy jou ore te veel uit aan Anton Van Niekerk op US@Die Ken: Waar is dit gese dat die span meestal uit 3s bestaan? Miskien n bietjie oordryf, maar verlede jaar, was dit nie ver verkeerd nie.
@akw: Goed om te sien dat die sportmanskap darem gesond is tussen die seuns! Weereens baie geluk met julle wen!
@akw: Jan nee…beslissings word gewoonlik nie bevraagteken nie…is jou ondervinding van Affies se afrigter dieselfde as wat bere007 hierbo beskryf?
@OudUppie: More
Gehoor van die besering ja. Is seker n gatslag vir Grey. Ek voel jammer vir die outjie…..Soos Ruan vd Merwe van Boishaai wat ook uit is vir die seisoen, Wilhelm miskien ook…. 
@Calamari: Weet nou nie van die 13 beseerdes nie, maar wat ek wel weet is dat Gerrie Koegelenberg – een van die “groot” senters weer sy kruisligamente geskeur het en vir die res van die seisoen uit is. Regtig jammer vir hom aangesien dit laasjaar ook gebeur het. Die res van die beseerdes is almal korttermyn en behoort meeste binne die volgende 4 weke weer te speel.
@Die Ken: Mario se lys het meer name as wat daar spelers was op.
Miskien het hy alle sportsoorte ingesluit?
@4×4: Die gees tussen die seuns was goed. Daar was ‘n paar Affie seuns wat interaksie met die ref gehad het wat my verbaas het, ek neem aan dat op Affies, soos op Grey, sulke gedrag nie aangemoedig word nie.
@Die Ken: Ek dink hulle trek al by 13 beserings vanjaar as ek reg kan onthou.
@Roger: Beet has my email address, I can send you the rest of the results via email, if you want them?
@Kattes-Strofes: My opinie is meerendeels n klein poep teen donderweer.
@Calamari: Kan myself doodlag, elke keer as ek met Nelio praat, word daai lys langer..Hy’s nou al by “die span het meestal uit 3e span spelers bestaan”
@BOG: Kom jy kaap toe vir die interskool teen HJS, sal lekker wees om te kuier…ek weet nie waar op die vlaktes jy jouself bevind nie…
@Kattes-Strofes: Ek verneem ons tweede span haker, Wilhelm het ook ligamente seergemaak – nog onseker hoe lank hy ook uit is…..@BOG ons krukkelys raak nou amper so lank soos Nelio van Grey se lys verlede jaar….
@BOG: Lets agree to disagree
@4X4 ..Van aanvaar en coaches gepraat … Hoe mooi was die Affie hokkie coach se gedrag nie lang die veld nie …. Vloek en gooi sy Affie hoed op die grond voor die al die kinders… Soveel so dat sy arme kaptein deur die ref gewaarsku word oor sy gedrag ….mooi voorbeeld ne !!
@akw: Kan nie sien waarom dit nie sal plaasvind nie….Affies ag hulle self nie die benchmark te wees nie, myns insiens het Grey al dekades daai posisie in geneem. Hokkie is maar soos rugby, some you win some you lose…dink dit is die manier waarop dit hanteer word wat tel….hoe was die sportman gees tussen die spanne en het Affies die verloor graciously aanvaar?
Die hokkie was baie spannend gewees met Garsies wat neus voorkry en Agfies wat elke keer gelyk maak. Wendoel kort voor die einde.
Ek hoop regtig die wedstryde sal volgende jaar nog plaasvind na hierdie uitslae, Garsies seuns was nie te groot en vinnig nie.
@Die Ken: Ken! Jammer ek lewer nou
eers kommentaar oor jou storie rakende rankings.
Soos jy seker weet, het ek verlede jaar n bespreking tussen bloggers
daaroor gehad, met uiteenlopende oppinies. En ja! Ek glo ook daar word te
veel gemaak van die rankings, inagnemend die feit dat daar geen
waterdigte sisteem in plek is nie.
Nietemin, die media maak daarvan n groot storie en bykans elke rugby web
tuiste het nou n ranglys. So ook sal jy altyd hoor van n span se rankings op
TV waneer skole rugby uitgesaai word. Daar word nooit gemeld wie het die
Beeld, Tuks, Burger, of wat se kompetisie ookal gewen nie. Ek vermoed dat hierdie feite slegs genoem sal word wanneer sodanige span in aksie sal wees op tv.
So ja, vir my persoonlik gee dit ook meer bevrediging as Boishaai wen teen die Wynland spanne en Grey. Dit bly egter n feit soos n koei dat die gewone man in die straat, wat nie nou betrokke is by skole rugby nie, en so nou en dan dit miskien op tv kyk, of iets by sy/haar vriende hoor, sal miskien meer ingelig wees oor watter skool, waar gerank is, teenoor wie watter kompetisie gewen het.
Ongelukkig is dit ook nou n baie goeie bemarkings geleentheid vir skole, aangesien daar maar bitter min op ander fasette en prestasies van skole gefokus word in die media
@Affiedorp: Ek was altyd onder die indruk dat Affies ‘n atletiek en kultuur skool is???
@kosie: Ek is ook deel van daai roofkykers wat Garsies se rugby ook kyk…….as daar na die coaches se records gekyk word dan stem ek volkome saam dat hulle ‘n gedugte afrigting span is.
@Rugbyman: Baie geluk Rugbyman en Bere007, dis voorwaar n besoderse prestasie deur julle hokkiespanne. Garsies kan maar Pretoria se hokkieskool wees en Affies die rugbyskool.
@4×4: Ek weet nie of enige van hulle in die mark is nie maar dit sal voorwaar ‘n goeie toevoeging wees vir enige skool.
@Rugbyman: Baie geluk Garsies met julle hokkie uitslag vandag….
Though for the day….wie will boring oefeninge bywoon as jy games kan kyk? Ek vermoed die Affies pa’s het die coaches geevalueer!
@Bere007: AbsolutFantastic!
@Rugbyman: Hoe lyk julle O 14 span? As ek kyk na GCB se o14s, dan lyk dit of daar n paar “krake” kan wees. Hulle het verloor teen ???- die skool van die Ooskaap en nie ver gewen teen MC nie. Die O 16s weer, het verloor teen Monnas. Miskien het jy my ook verkeerdelik aangsien as n “affie pappa”, maar die hokkieveld lyk goed.
@Bere007: en garsies se o16A wen 3-1 en die o14A 1-0… goeie middag… ek het gesien die affie pappas loer so met die een oog af na ons 1ste span rugby oefening toe ook… amper meer as wat hulle hokkie kyk…
Thought of the day….1st Team Hockey Garsfontein 3 – 2 Affies…..Did not see the Dr there today ……Well done Boys !!
@Calamari: Jy se nog steeds nie vir my waarom meer as 7 miljoen vanoor die hele Afrika, hulle hier kom vestig het nie. Politiek is relatief en terwyl die ou stelsel baie ver van volmaak was, was dit veel beter as elders in Afrika. Was jy al daar? En het jy al na videos gekyk van hoe dit in konsentrasiekampe, HUIDIGLIK in SA lyk- hoe hulle, mans, vrouens, bejaardes en kindertjies behandel? Daar, agv hulle pa se velkleur wat verhoed word deur rassisties wette om te werk om na hulle gesinne om te sien? Regstellende aksie? Waar het dit gewerk en enige ding reggestel? Wakker word, boetie. Maar as jy nog in SA is oor 5 jr, sal jy voel waarvan ek praat. Min sal dit vryspring.
@Oakdale supporter: En die Iere is gaande oor hom……en hy speel elke game soos n trojaan…..kan nie wag dat die Iere hom in Junie hier teen ons loslaat
@Speartackle: Nog ‘n CJ. Die keer Stander speel vir Ierland omdat hy ook in SA as te klein gesien is.
@BOG: ‘aka’ regstellende aksie
@BOG: Sielkundige agterstand…..die fotos, videos ens wat ek gesien het van die ou regime is hulle beslis nie soos mense behandel nie, maar eerder soos diere…Hulle het n agterstand op ‘mens wees’
@Speartackle: Baie waar, en dit kom met rugby ook.@Calamari: O ja, ek weet dat sekere rasgroepe, veral die een, n geweldige agterstand TANS het, met meer as 100 rasgedrewe wette en regulasies wat hulle deelname aan die ekonomie, aan band le.
@Calamari: Wees spesifiek, watter agterstand? Hulle speel, rugby nou, 20 jaar NA apartheid. En miskien kan JY dan vir my se waarom meer as 7 miljoen mense vanoor die hele kontinent, hulle in SA onder die ou bedeling, kom vestig het. Hulle het gese dat hulle gekom het vir werk, behuising, gesondheidsdienste, skool vir hulle kinders, maar jy pis in hulle gesigte en jy se, nee. Se dan waarom?
@BOG: SWA en Zim het ons dan gewen met die krieket……..
@BOG: Dink jy sekere rasse groepe het agv apartheid nie n agterstand nie?
@Calamari: Moet nie ALLES glo wat Clem Sunter se nie. Daar is mense wie aan sy lippe hang. Hy het ook oa gese dat Japan sy posisie as ekonomiese reus sal verloor, ten koste van Sjina. As jy lg met n arendsoog volg, sal jy weet dat hulle bubble binnekort gaan bars- miskien waarom hulle nou mense uitvoer, ook 400 000 (sover na SA) Wat jy wel van hom kan glo, is die volgende: In 15 (kort) jaar van nou, sal elke groep van 100, tussen 0-24 jr, bestaan uit 91 swart, 7 “gekleurd”, i Indier en 1 wit. As jy een van lg 3 groepe uitmaak, dan het jy rede tot kommer@Andre T: Gat sien verseker, 6-0.@Calamari: Ek vra weer, watter agterstand is daar onder die wie sedert 1994 gebore is? As daar een is, is dit die verantwoordelikheid van die huidige regime en administrateurs. En ek se ook weer, Transformasie is sinoniem met vernietiging in Afrika. En daar is n baie lang lys van voorbeelde, oa Namibie en Zim met hulle “rugby”. Geld gaan opdroog- berus jou daarby en meeste pro sport in SA daarmee saam.
@Speartackle: Ek het sopas verneem ons vuurvreter flank Ruan van der Merwe is uit vir die res van die seisoen. Kruisligamente. NOG n gevoelige slag.
@Speartackle: HJS speel ook tans sonder n erkende baljagter. Dit is wel interessant hoe Russel Winter verduidelik hoekom hulle nie n erkende baljagter nodig het nie.
@Speartackle: As ek sou afrig kies ek twee ‘fetchers’!
@Calamari: Ek verneem nou ook die Stormers reken hulle het nie n fetcher nodig nie………….ek glo vas jy het n spesialis fetcher nodig
@Speartackle: Ek sal beslis moet kyk ja, ek het nog die Kings sien speel nie..Ek verneem Deon Davids doen goed met die talent tot sy beskikking.
@Calamari: Gaan doen jouself net n guns en kyk hoe talent verlore kan gaan omdat hy kamstig te klein is………
@Speartackle: Ek is nou nie eintlik n kranige Kings ondersteuner/volger nie….
Gaan hou daai Velleman dop………hy is ook nie onnosel nie………sy voorgevoel en tydsberekening puik……..as hy gaan vir die bal dan kry hy hom
@Calamari: Kolbe ook
@Speartackle: Aplon was ook skynbaar te klein, McKenzie van die Chiefs is nie veel groter nie?
Die beste SA speler tans in die Super Rugby is die Kings se CJ Velleman. Ongelooflike speler in my oë. Sy statistieke vergelyk selfs beter as David Pocock en Sam Kane s’n maar hy sal nooit oorweeg word vir hoër louere omdat hy kamstig te klein is………dit piepie my so af
@Andre T: Andre, ek is nie nou heeltemal by nie?
@Calamari: Ja…….as jy enige iets soos ….rom rom……sê
@Andre T: Ek sal moet lig loop hier klink dit vir my, kan Beet mens hier ook verban?
@Calamari: Ek was n paar keer verwyder van daai site…………..ek was n stout seuntjie……..en koshuisvaders tug stouterds……………ek onthou nog ou BOG het eendag so mooi huldeblyk aan my gedoen met my eerste skorsing
@Andre T: Wie het jou verban? Jy sekerlik reg tot vryheid van spraak?
Ek is 2010 van 365 verban toe ek gesê het teen 2016 sal daar meer as 100 provinsiale spelers in Europa speel.
@Calamari: Die exodus na Frankryk, Engeland en Japan sal net al hoe gewilder raak
@Andre T: Sal interessant wees wat met die spelers se salarisse oor tyd gaan gebeur. Kwessie van vraag en aanbod…
@Calamari: Watter span sal jy nogal met Monnas assosieer?
Sal jou n clue gee…………Chelsea of Liverpool
@Calamari: Ek onthou die dae wat jy nie n kaartjie kon kry vir n gewone Curriebeker wedstryd nie……….deesdae sukkel hulle om seisoenkaartjies verniet weg te gee.
Wonder of dit die borge en unies enigsens pla?
Lyk nie so
@Andre T: Watter sokkerspan ondersteun jy?
@Andre T: Jy sien klaar hoe min mense Loftus en Kings Park toe gaan….baie hartseer, seker maar n era wat amper verby is…
@Calamari: Daar is absoluut niks wat ek kan doen om dit te verander….al wat ek weet is dat ek net minder en minder senior rugby kyk en ek dink daar is duisende ander wat dit ook doen en die dag sal kom wat daar minder as 1 000 mense op Loftus sal wees.
@Andre T: Ek stem 100% saam met jou, hou net in gedagte ‘hulle’ het n agterstand, 20 jaar na apartheid is gans te vroeg om eintlik te se, ons is nou op ‘gelyke grond’. Ek dink wel sekere rasse groepe word in sportsoorte ingedruk wat hulle nie werklik aan belangstel nie, dit is n feit. Volgens my sou ons met diktatorskap vinnige verander gehad het (sou wel meer pynvol gewees het) maar ons sou beslis nou in n beter posisie gesit het.
Vir my gaan dit nie oor geslag, ras, nasie of whatever….ek gee nie om of die hele span vol Bothas, Buthelezi’s, Cupido’s of Guptas is nie…..solank dit die beste span is….en ek is moeg om te hoor dat ontwikkeling nog agter gelaat word…..daar is hope geleenthede…….dit moet net aanvaar en aangegryp word en nie afgedwing word op kinders wat eerder in ander sportsoorte belangstel.
@Valkie: Ek dink hy word jaarliks gemonitor.
@BOG: Clem Sunter se ons moet net kalm wees en die geleenthede aangryp. Afrika het ongelooflike geleenthede. Ek moet bieg, rugby moet meer eenvoudig raak indien ‘hulle’ wil oorleef. HOPELOOS te veel reels…en te ongewikkeld vir Jan Publiek.
@Valkie: Lol….is jy bang die Laeveld naam word verander?
@BOG: Lyk vir my of my vaderland besig is om sy gat te sien
@Andre T: @Calamari: @BOG: Ek vra net. Is die teikens nie gestel vir 2019 nie? Alle SARU kompetisies moet dan 50% verteenwoordiging dan hê of die betrokke span mag nie deelneem nie?
Is die skolekompetisies SARU kompetisies nie?
Vir politieke redes het ek my naam verander.
Sokker word geborg deur die banke en daardie bronnetjie is onder druk. Nedbank is al 5 jaar op die mark, en selfs met OM se pogings om dit op te deel in 4 bemarkbare entiteite, het nog geen kopers gelok nie. Barclays kan ook nie n koper kry vir hulle 67% aandeel in Absa nie. Daarom hulle kennisgewing dat hulle dit oor die volgende 3 1/2 jaar wil verkoop. Good luck.
@Speartackle: Sokker is regtig glad nie n slegte alternatief nie manne. BAIE meer geld in sokker, selfs plaaslik!
Ja ek wonder hoe lank gaan die ‘administrateurs’ nog hierdie leliewit superskolespanne toelaat?
@Speartackle: Natuurlik gee die politici nie om oor rugby nie- of enige ander sport, “for that matter”. Hulle uitsluitlike belang daarby, is hoe dit hulle sal bevoordeel. Hulle gee nie om as SA, sal moet speel teen Namibie en Zim nie, solank hulle dit kan gebruik. Waar was hulle nog ooit gesteld op die handhawing van standaarde? Nerens nie. Wel, jou vraag oor die 50% by n Grey vs Affies wedstryd is die tipe vraag waarvoor groot prysgeld bewillig kan word. Op hierdie stadium klink dit onwaarskynlik, maar die regime se vermoe om te vernietig, ken absoluut geen perke nie.
@BOG: En ons ou nasie sit net en kyk hoe hulle ons geliefde sporte versmoor. Ons ouderdom entoesiaste verduur dit maar ek sien onder die jeug dat rugby en krieket al hoe minder aandag geniet.
Dit is waar wat jy sê….die stadions loop leeg…..die spelers begin ander weivelde soek…….maar ek dink die politici steur hulle min daaraan……..
Wonder wanneer gaan 50% op skolewedstryde afgedwing word? en ek praat nie van CW of Grant Khomo….ek praat van Grey vs Affies…..
@CharlesZA: Kom more Pta toe dan gaan eet ons lekker
@Speartackle: Illovo.
@Speartackle: Die antwoord op jou vraag, is n duidelike en onomwonde NEE- daar is geen ander land waar hulle dit doen nie. Dan weer, is daar ook nie n ander land (behalwe Venezuella en n paar Afrikalande) wat op die oomblik vinniger sink as SA nie. En ons rugby weerspieel maar ons politiek- dit word omtrent op dieselfde vlak bedryf- dieselfde standaarde en gebrek aan eerlikheid en integriteit. En weer nee, die feit dat hulle volgens demografie n span kies, maak hulle nie “uniek” soos Calamari wil te kenne gee nie, dit maak hulle rassisties. Hou die toeskouersgetalle dop, dan die spelers en uiteindelik die rugby self.
@Calamari: Ja ja Calamari…….ek het nou al 5 keer gesien jy post Spurs se score hier.
@CharlesZA: Waar in Gauteng is jy?
@Speartackle: Spies, ek stem saam..ons het die getalle, dit moet net ontwikkel word – of ‘hulle’ wil rugby speel is n gesprek vir n ander dag.
Jy gesien Spurs het Man U 3-0 geklop?
Maar die minister sê ons moet nooit vergeet dat ons in die top 3 lande is en die enigste span is wat AMPER die All Blacks kan wen…………watse snert is dit?
Ons moet hulle wen……ons behoort hulle te wen………
Waar in jou lewe het jy gesien jy is tevrede om 2de of 3de beste te wees?
@Speartackle: Gee jy regtig om oor die bok span?
Waar kan mens na werk n dop drink in hierdie Gauteng plek. Werk force my om hier te wees vir n paar dae. Of beter is daar dalk n rugby game aan om te kyk.
@Speartackle: Spies, jy vergeet ons land is uniek.
Is daar enige ander sport land/volk/nasie/kontinent waar die nasionale span eerder saamgestel word uit die demografie en nie op grond van verdienste?
@Michael: Yes this Saturday it should be an incredible experience for the boys hopefully the Park is full for their and when Lions school province or should I say the stormers even though I see no difference between the two
@Die Ken: Ons vat n wen teen Gim enige dag! Dit is tyd dat PRG weer die wynlandskole pakgee, darem te lanklaas gebeur…vanjaar is julle jaar!! Willemse is briljant!!
@Cappie: @Cappie: Miskien heg ons te veel waarde aan rankings, miskien heg die gem. SA skolerugbyondersteuner te veel aan rankings?
As jy vir PRG se bestuur (coaches, onnies, OBs ens) self vra om te kies tussen of hul sekere spanne wen versus n top 10 in die rankings, sal die eerste keuse wen. Dieselfde geld vir Monnas: wen Beeld of behaal ‘n top 10, die Beeld-wen sal belangriker wees…vra maar vir @Rugbyman re hul vertonings laasjaar.
Dink julle hy gee n hel om of hul nie top 20 gehaal het nie? Dink jul die ouers wat hul seuns hierdie jaar in Std 6 by hul geplaas het, gee ‘n hel om? Die wen van die Beeld was die belangrikste en sal in die annale van die geskiedenis opgeskryf wees, nie hul ranking vir 2015 nie. ‘n PRG wen teen die 3 Wynlande en GCB is baie belangriker as wat die flippen ranking is.
Soveel meer met die meisieskole
, die ouens kan nie groot interskole derbies bymekaarslaan nie, hulle het net nie die seunsgetalle nie. Hul beste bet is om een of twee sterk seunskole te trek by WK of die Paastoernooie (veral meer van toepassing op die Noordvaalskole).
@RnR: Dit is juis hier waar die probleem inkom. Teen wat meet jy of daar genoeg spelers is wat op daardie vlak kan speel, hy beweer ook hy het nooit spelers op grond van kleur by die WP ook gekies nie…
@Calamari: Dalk is sy bevinding dat daar wel 50% spelers van kleur is wat goed genoeg is om die bok-span te haal. Of dit die geval is weet ek regtig nie.
ManCity klop PSG ongelooflike wedstryd gisteraand gewees.
Nuwe bok afrigter seg hy kies geen speler op grond van kleur nie, maar tog is een van sy prestasie klousules dat 50% nie-blank moet wees. Babelse verwarring as jy my vra…hoe maak die man dan as hy nie genoeg spelers van kleur het en hyself nie spelers op grond van kleur kies nie…
@ringo do Jeppe play Ben Vorster as the curtain raiser for the L
ions match?
@Roger: 29-10
@Calamari:
Boishaai & Gim will definitely end ahead of PRG this year
@Calamari: Monnas speel glad nie Affies, Grey, Boishaai, Gim of Jeppe nie.
@Calamari: Soos Monnas se vertonings lyk is hulle nie top 10 nie, of hoe? Hulle kan bly wees as hulle top 20 haal.
@Calamari: Nou wie sê jy speel nie sterk spanne nie? Paarl Gim of Garsfontein?
@Cappie: Dit gaan oor die hoeveelheid sterk spanne wat jy in totaal deur n seisoen speel. Dit help nie jy wen alles maar speel net 1 span in die top 10 nie?
@Calamari: Pasop dat Garsfontein nie vir Grey verras nie.
@Cappie: Jy moet die sterkte meet teen wie hulel nog gaan speel in die seisoen. Gim speel bv glad nie Grey, Monnas of Affies nie – dit MOET teen hulle tel.
@Calamari: Wat van Garsfontein, Glenwood en Jeppe? Al drie goeie kandidate.
@Cappie: Ek dink dit gaan soos volg eindig: Afiies, Grey, Paul Roos, HJS, Gim
Eerste rankings van school of rugby:
http://www.schoolofrugby.co.za/news/8794-school-of-rugby-rankings-11-april-2016
Ek sien Kuruman, Oos-Moot en Vryburg is ook nog onoorwonne.
Affies moet nog teen Boishaai, Grey, Glenwood en Jeppe wat almal onoorwonne is speel. Dit gaan nie maklik wees nie.
@Speartackle: Die witbul van Oakdale Jeandre Rudolph was kookwater verby, Maties het baie beslis nie hulle kanse gebruik nie, strafdrie moes baie vroeer gekom het, Pukke se 10 is baie knap, Stapelberg se besering reg voor die wedstryd was n gevoelige slag, en glo dit of te nie, ek dink Lourens van der Merwe het n goeie wedstryd geblaas.
@AffieOuer: UJ teen Tuks
@Tang: @Bere007: Good win for Garsies…a true win without imports.
@Speartackle: wie speel in die finaal?
Ek sien Young Guns finaal is vanmiddag op SS1 15h45
Ek dink ek het erens gelees daar was iets soos 12 HJS spelers op die veld gister aan beide spanne
@knowthegame: Ja dit was mos nou n great game….wie het gesê n 7-6 game kan nie opwindend wees. Daai tackle van Puk 13 op US 13 was seker sover die ‘Tackle van die Jaar’
Jy kon sommer sien met die opdraf die Pukke was ontspanne en het gekom om dit te geniet. Dis wanneer jy jou beste lewer….ek dink coach Mokoena was ook instrumenteel en met sy ligte luim houding bring hy baie kalmte oor n span….iets wat ontsteek by meeste afrigters…………en hulle weet presies wie hulle is
@Speartackle: Spear what a game…ek het laas week gedink Tuks kan surprize ma was verkeerd.Binne die eerste 5 minute kon jy sien die Puk meen besigheid…wow what tackles…duik manne sommer meters terug.En daai laaste 10 minute…lanklaas n 7/6 game so geniet.Ek het gedink daar moet n penalty try kom met skrum oortredings maar geweet daai ref het nie die appels om dit daar voor al daai Matie grooooot katte te doen nie.Varsity cup was vir my bietjie so-so maar gisteraand skitterend–wens was nog jonk en showroom daar is darem baie talent op die bos
@Tang: OB’s are almost split into two camps now – you tend to find that earlier Jeppe Old Boys are more interested in the KES game. The younger guys (those matriculated after 2010) tend to be concerned more about the St. Benedicts game for a lot of reasons that make sense. I would even go as far to say that there is a lot more needle in the Bennies game these days. Also without being insulting – we expected to give Boys High a hiding this year. We have added Boys High twice a year on our fixture list, my understanding is that this in in anticipation of Pretoria making a strong come back in the next couple of years. You would know better, but I believe that the current Std 6 group is the first group that Boys High have actively recruited in years??
Hey Puk…..hey Puk
@Roger: Will do…If ever there was a definition of a bogey team..this would be it.
@Die Ken: that’s right – KES won 7 in a row from 85-91 and then lost 6 in a row from 92-97 until Big Joe’s year in 1998 I think – would appreciate if you can confirm?
@Roger: I can’t remember the exact score…my result sheet is at home. I do remember KES winning, by circa 15 points?
@Die Ken: you right – should have read “put 40 past Monnas”. Do you know the score in 1991?
@Roger: Legends are born by forgetting minds, score was 40-12. Admittedly still a pakslae, but not a 40 pointer
@Roger: To misquote Bill Shankly:
Someone said to me ‘To you the KES v Jeppe rugby derby is a matter of life or death!’ and I said ‘Listen, it’s much more important than that’.
@Orbit: Jeppe definitely favourites this year, as they were last year and in 2014
It’s great to see the rivalry rekindled after a few barren years for Jeppe. Jeppe have done wonderful work at the school – best of luck to them.
One of my first school boy rugby memories was watching KES Jeppe on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of rugby between the schools in 1985. Jeppe won
but thereafter did not beat KES again until the return game in 1990 as mentioned above.
What I don’t like is the massive pressure of these derbies (IMO more so on the Jeppe lads than the KES lads). Everyone would do well to remember that it is just, after all, one game of rugby in more than 80 years of fixtures and no matter the result the sun will rise again in the morning!
@Ringo, @Matty, @theblackandwhite: I have a good mate who is a Jeppe Old Boy. He was at Tssessebe House.
I was chatting to him the other day and I told him the Jeppe V PBHS fixture was 9 April. He never gave any attention to the Boys High fixture and immediately asked me when Jeppe were playing KES.
@roger impressive is that both Jeppe and Kes are embracing an exciting attacking approach to rugby. You can add Helpies to that list.
@roger my thought is the Kes looks very promising. The Jeppe Kes game as always will be a cracker. They way it should be.
6th of August at Jeppe …. everybody is uninvited
@theblackandwhite: even so, if you stay unbeaten you will be top 5, or very near….you’ve already beaten Waterkloof once this year, Eldo’s Queens and Kempton are good scalps already in the bag.
Elementary then, beat Affies and you are there or thereabouts….
Obviously easier said than done!
watch the space undefeated with maybe a draw against Affies would be remarkable… but we will definitely see my mantra is take it a game at a time… the focus shoukd be on Ben Vorster this week
@Ringo: I might even wear my Scumbilo High jersey so you can spot me…
@Ringo: When is the non event and where? I would love to be the only spectator there
@Grasshopper: Spilhuase apparently all Kes did in practice that week was tackle and defend the line they apparently took a batering rum and made sure they stop dead still on its path and when the players asked him what is our plan of attack going forward…. he supposedly smugly said when they drop the ball cause they are too tired pick it up and run quickly to dot it down under the sticks…. derby days throw the form book out the window especially if the form favours Jeppe….. but this year a game at time and then the non event at the end of the season
@Ringo: I watched that game on TV, how Jeppe didn’t win that only Zupta knows. Man for man Jeppe were far better. It was highly disappointing. Derbies are funny things as we all know.
@Vyfster: Lets hope for a nice running game. I am not sure that their fixture list is strong enough to get into the top 5. Other than Affies and Waterkloof, they are not really playing any real heavy weights – I still think they would have done better going to the St Johns Festival and playing the likes of Paarl Boys etc
@theblackandwhite: shhhhh as I have learnt on this blog never say anything bad about the Houghton mafia they will come out with “facts” and statistics about how we choose to play them on that day…. with marshmallows team they currently have they will have to come up with cunning schemes to win against us and I have no doubt they will in that Spilhuase they have the master puppeteer in change there…. last year showed me that never rely on stats in a derby we were at least 30 points better than them according to stats yet we lost by nearly as much think 24 – nil
lets take it a game at a time next up Ben Vorster at the Park
First, Jeppe must focus on preventing Ben Vorster doing a KES/Jeppe double this Saturday on Ellispark……hopefully the Vossies will be up for it, but Jeppe will be heavy favourites, I suppose.
Should be a very entertaining game though, and with the Lions playing the Stormers directly afterwards, we are in for a double treat.
Jeppe are starting to look like certain top 10 material, and possible top 5 finish if things go their way.
@Ringo: I agree, although there seems to be a change in behavior in the boys the last 5 or 6 years and roles have reversed. in the early 2000’s KES didn’t really see Jeppe as a “derby” where as Jeppe has reemerged in the last 6 years they have now almost become obsessed about beating us – at the end of the day though Gauteng needs both Jeppe and KES to be strong. This team this year does seem to have something special – I must confess though, I have a sneaky suspicion that we could be better in 2 years time. the current u16 team may not be as talented but they are absolutely ruthless!!! Unfortunately we could have a couple out of the KES game – I have it on good authority that KES insisted on playing us the same week as SA Schools are playing – similar to last year.
@theblackandwhite: I was thinking the other day that we make it too electric in the lead up to a Kes game and that way boys lose sight of the game. What in fact we should this year is make it a non-event like any other fixture and the boys will not tense up too much…. but this season will be an entertaining one I will endevour to watch every game that is played in Gauteng by the team….. in regard to Kes game the defination of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome…. we clearly have them outgunned this year lets not get too excited after we klap them by more than 50 we throw the party to end all parties but leading up to it treat it as a non-event that is what I think just a suggestion
@Speartackle: Yeah he does will definitely apply and thereafter it will be his choice where he goes for high school if he gets into all the schools were he applies … although like I said most of his teammates seem to be obessessed with monnas but will see how things pan out for him.
@Ringo: Ringo, I am a fellow Jeppe OB. Always nice to see comments of such ardent and passionate OB’s. Your accounting teacher is exaggerating the story a little bit – if its the one that I am thinking of, he may have even played in that game. Only Dalton was suspended from the game, Mr Quail was probably right to suspend him from the game but what the whole exercise proved is how much spirit was at the school – as most of these schools have. I wasn’t at Jeppe yet, but I am led to believe that the atmosphere that week was electric.
@Speartackle:
@Ringo: Okay then he is attending Gustav Preller in Roodepoort….don’t know if Taute went there….I’m sure he went to Nigel or Dunottar…but I might be wrong.
Bring him to Monnas….much closer to home…….once you’ve tasted the West Rand dust you can’t leave
@Roger: I know loosing two future pros in Brent Moyle and James Dalton and in fact an incredible tight five changes the dynamic of the game. But that being said Mr Quail was right and seeing how spoiled our current crop of superstars are. Do not get me wrong I love these boys a lot and I am great fan of what they can do on the rugby field, but some of the things they say and get away with are outrages apparently one of them told an old boy who admonished them for having their hands in their pockets that they are bigger than the school shameful circumstances if it really happened.
@Vleis: Over his dead body he goes to Kes. Nah I am kidding like with my brother in law he will apply to all three Parktown, KES and Jeppe and the decision will be his to make and believe it or not Vin and Roger my brother in law got accepted at both Kes and Jeppe and actually choose Jeppe havens forbid in the world of Kes people
@Speartackle: we will see about Monnas their school plays Monnas this year in the league as he says they got promoted will see what he thinks of it but he is only in Gr 6 so will see what happens. His current school isn’t half bad in fact Connie Oostehuizen and if I not mistaken Jaco Tuater went there; but as you know in primary school they are all super amazing very talented and will be springboks especially if they are related to you
@Roger: I saw the Helpmekaar vs KES games at both Ellipark and the trials……….I think Helpmekaar put up more than a 100 in both games together
@Speartackle: not sure – I do know there are only 6 Grade 12’s in the 1st XV this year and one of them is the SACS boytjie so how does 5 sound to you?
Judging by KES and Monnas’ result vs Helpmekaar the game might be a touch closer than it was in 2014 at U16 level!
@Ringo: Send the boytjie to Monnas….I’ll make him a star
@Roger: How many of the KES u/16 A’s of 2014 that were smashed 71 zip by Monnas are still playing rugby?
@Ringo: The top monastic schools look after their own though, so I’d be very surprised if your brother does not get into Jeppe – especially if his sport or academics are good. They were definitely very interested in a mate’s talented kid who’s uncle was an old boy. That said, Monnas is a great alternative. What about KES for a change of scenery?
@Ringo: Jeppe were good in 1990 but so was KES. KES lost the return game to Jeppe in 1990 so 1-1 was probably a fair reflection of the teams relative strengths. KES lost only 2 in 1990 – the return game to Jeppe and to Boys High. I remember watching them at Saints Week destroy Westville by 50 odd points and also beat Wynberg and St Andrews easily. They also smashed Monnas in 1990 by 40 points.
@Calamari: Monnas en Affies
@Speartackle: Teen wie speel hulle op Wildeklawer?
@Kattes-Strofes: Ek stem…..Outeniqua het n goeie span en dit was n goeie oorwinning in George. HJS is n bitter gedugte span en speel met ongelooflike kalmheid.
Ek dink Outeniqua kan Maandag en Saterdag by Wildeklawer verras veral omdat die een span al klaar lippe aflek vir 6 Mei.
@Speartackle: Yep, time has flown by – it’s a fun but stressful ride being a parent.
@Kattes-Strofes: Jy slaan die spyker op die kop. HJS is beslis nog net in 2de rat.
@Grasshopper: fair comment but very hurtful in nature not in the spirit of banter more troll like behaviour but all is well bud Glenwood and Jeppe should stand together show it not about what side of town you come from but about the heart and courage you develop thorugh adversity…..@Speartackle: The old Frenchy at Arsenal will tell you they are the only team in the premier league or even in professional football that is not geared to their teeth and he is still hoping that the debt bubble will burst like it happen Glasgow Rangers and they being Arsenal will be the only team still standing”
@Roger: My good man I did say only some people from the Red school only see the world from the top of the mountain and only in bright Red colours … there should be some good rugga at Kes this weekend think Waterkloof are going to be tough contest for you chaps…. missed your comment the other day about Dalton shutting down the school cause Mr Quail would not let him play….. Back then the school was bigger then the boys something most people should learn to appreciate… My understanding is that the fight against Athlone was an epic encounter apparently some of the Athlone boys even had knives in their socks I was only four in 1990 so was definitely not at the game and in Apartheid RSA there was no prospect of someone like even being allowed to watch that game. One of my accounting teachers when I was Jeppe I think he now teaches at Saints told me the story I think he was in std 6 in 1990 and according to him and the whole school Dalton like in the 1995 world cup was actually innocent but because of his well established reputation of being thug was found guilty by association of instigating the broll. Mr Quail ” Batman” as he was affectionately known was big a disciplinarian and believed that a well behaved school was more important than winning a rugby matches and in fact punished not just Dalton but the entire tight five for retaliating when provoked and suspended them for the last game of the season and as the story goes we lost yet another game we should easily won against Kes. Mr Quail like all but one past Jeppe Headmasters were the stuff of legend. If you ever pay attention to Jeppe war cries not that one ever does unless the boys are chanting something classless less the bad things you do are engraved so quickly in people’s memories … you will hear that with ten minutes before the end of every 1st XV game they always chant Bat!!!! – Man!!!!!;Bat!!!! – Man!!!!!; Batman!!!!! in honour of Mr Quail which in time was used as a jeer is now soo engraved in the culture and habits of the game at the school that we able keep time using some of the war cries
@knowthegame: Boland Landbou het rerig n goeie span vanjaar. Die telling vertel nie die hele verhaal nie, want die boertjies was nog in die middel van die 2de helfde behoorlik in die”game”. Die Gimmies se beter fiksheid het volgens my toe deurgekom, en die telbord laat rol. Mens kon sien dat Slaptjips en sy helpers kliphard gewerk het aan die Gimmies se fiksheid in die afseisoen.Hulle het ook n vuurwarm agterlyn ,wat enige span aan flarde kan hardloop.
Ek verwag dat Boland nog n hele paar groot kannone gaan laat les opse later in die seisoen, soos hul fiksheid optel.
Spies!! Ja, die HJS lewe nog n dag. Maar!! Ek weet nie of hierdie outoppie se senuwees gaan hou nie. Die span wil maar net nie na n hoer rat oorskakel nie. Ek was self nie daar nie, maar n kollega van my, wat jare lank al skole rugby in die Oos-en Suid Kaap vir Die Burger doen, het vir my darem n goeie verslag gegee. Moet egter baie krediet aan Outeniqua gee. Hulle het blykbaar bul stutte en twee giftige senters, wat chaos saai in die middeveld.
As dinge so aangaan, wag moeilike tye op ons, en Wildeklawer is om die draai.Ek dink egter ook die onoorwonne status kan moontlik n negatiewe effek he op die seuns. Ek is seker hulle voel die druk en kan dus nie hulself net geniet en uitleef nie. Hierdie is egter net n persoonlike mening.
@knowthegame: Is jy nou ernstig? Hoe pateties is dit nou nie? Op n Dinsdagmiddag? Seker nie eers op tv nie.
#varsitycupmustfall
ek dink dit is lions o/19 @Bulls o/19
@Beet….@Beet
Can you please list the Young Guns finalists with their respective schools if possible?
@knowthegame: Ek kyk sommer al die hoogtepunte en laagtepunte op ‘catchup’ in 60min van my naweek.
@Speartackle: moet se hulle website het baie agter uit gegaan.Young guns is more middag by UJ tussen UJ en Tuks
@Speartackle: Kevin bly n yster in enige krieketspan. Gaan kyk maar na sy rekord in bv. toetse.
@knowthegame: Jy is mos n kenner op Varsity Rugby……waar kan ek sien wie is in die Young Guns finaal?
Hulle het seker die uselesste website wat ek in my lewe gesien het naas die Tuks reeks s’n.
En word die Young Guns finaal gebeeldsaai want ek weier om die senior spanne te kyk.
@Calamari: probeer inskakel as die Leeus speel of Lions.Ek dink jy kan dit nogal geniet.Hulle bietjie anders as meeste spanne in die sin dat hulle daarvan hou om met die bal te speel.Die meeste ander spanne probeer die game speel sonder die bal..maak dit nogal moeilik om driee te druk
@Speartackle: Spear ek lees laas week op die blog van DIE SPAN van BL.Nou kyk ek verstaan nie die game nie maar geniet my”chat n bietjie bal”.Kalahari praat van PG nie kans nie en ek dink selfs trekker of ploegskaar was liries oor hierdie span.Help my reg -as ek die berig reg lees,BL nie “opgedaag” het die busse gebreek of was dar baie beserings..lol.Ou gesegde, moenie vel verkoop voor bok geskiet is nie
@Speartackle: Drivel is the appropriate term…
@BOG: Ek hoor die Franse is bitter spyt Goosen het ooit vir die Bokke uitgedraf…….hy sou in hul toetsspan instap.
Let the Goose loose
@Calamari: En ek sien Chris Morris boul steeds half volleys op leg stump………sien so uit om Maritzburg College se beste sportman ooit, Kevin Pietersen, die IPL heeltemaal te oorheers
@Grasshopper: they thought so in 2015 too………
and in 2014 ………..
@Speartackle: I wont say, I told you so! Interesting observation about Goosen at 13. I think at U 15 level, he did in fact play centre, while Paul Jordaan, the Sharks 13, was the 10.
@Speartackle: Behalwe vir die skole rugby het ek net sokker en gholf gekyk. Ek kan nie verstaan hoekom iemand nog SuperRugby wil kyk nie…
@Ringo: do you remember the big Jeppe sit-in in 1990 in protest to James Dalton’s suspension for the KES Jeppe match? If you think the KES Jeppe crowds are big today then you should have been at that match in 1990 – it was Jeppe’s centenary celebration and it was to be capped off by a win over KES. Unfortunately KES didn’t read the script and spoilt the party big time. I have Jeppe mates who played in that game who still blame the headmaster for torpedoing their big day
@Roger: I don’t think so. KES were all raging about beating Northwood. DHS proved this weekend that is all relative. Jeppe to give KES a good hiding…
@Vleis: Proper laat lammetjie; I was in matric when he born…. its complicated culturally we Africans been on drive for many mellinia to repopulate the planet my parents had missed the memo which was circulated at the start of the 21st century that the planet was already full
love him to bits though…. Actually it is first came first serve when it comes to applications to Jeppe it being a state school and all and no preference given to old boys…. all things being the same he might get preference to another similar candidate who applies at the same time of equal ability or inability….. I know for a fact that I would want both him and my son to go to Jeppe but I will not impose my will on either of them…. He has been muttering words of blasphemy saying things like he wants a change scenery and might even go to Monument cause that is where most of his teammates want to school. He is in dual medium primary school on the Westrand as had advised my parents to send him to a school that should give him a decent base academically and on the sporting field. Now he plays a decent brand of rugby and cricket according to him but you no these little ones tend to be growing in the world where there are no losers… they have never lost a game of rugby or cricket which I find had to believe and every year he tells me they are league winners. I still intend to watch him play rugby one of these days
How pathetic was the weekend’s Super Rugby games especially Sharks vs Lions and Bulls/Kings compared to the ERC quarterfinals with Sarazens and Leicester showing how true rugby should be played. And what a game Toulon vs Racing with Goosen making such an impact on 13. I think even Montpellier will give the Stormers 20 plus
@Grasshopper: @Ringo: dream on
@Ringo: To add the academics stats are a fact and was a general observation I made. Glenwood isn’t super hot at academics either, but getting there with more focus.
@Speartackle: Spurs 3 – 0 Man u
@Ringo: I get your point and apologies if I insulted you and other Jeppe bloggers. At Glenwood in the 90’s we only knew about Jeppe because of James Dalton as we knew about Greenside due to James Small. To be fair we probably have alot in common, middle classed kids doing their best. It would be interesting to know how many times Glenwood have played Jeppe over the years. I do know we won in 2000, 45-11. I live in JHB so should definitely make an effort to see them play. Maybe against KES and giving them a good hiding…
@Ringo: Hahahaha…..great balance sheet……….Giroud, Debuchy, Cech, Gabriel, Coquelin, Mertesacker, Flamini, Cazorla, Arteta, Aliexis Sanchez, Ozil etc etc……some nice home grown Anglo Saxon players
@Grasshopper: I understand how that sort of thing may be considered banter in the circles of people who only see the world in different shades of green……. I may have only been generating content on this blog for just under 2 years and that is very loose interpretation of generating content as I basiscally only comment on aspects of Jeppe wins and always crawl back into my shell whenever we have lost…. But you Mr friend have a lot in common with certain people not all of them but a significant proportion of the old population of certain school in Houghton that has never done anything wrong which even Kids at Eaton if given their choice ” by choice I mean incredible athletic ability of course” would choose the Red SCHOOL in Houghton… That by the way is banter not pulling out what literally looked like the Kids reports cards after they win a match in order to belittle their incredible achievement…. Get some perspective bud and stop seeing the world in green and shades of green!!!!!!!!
On a side note in my matric year 04 the boys beat Glenwood 10 – 9 at the Kes Fest and the sad thing was not one of them rated it as achievement as most of them had never heard of Glenwood before to be honest back then. The point is if a school has been around for as long as both Jeppe and Glenwood have been there will be swings and roundabouts in the rugby results. Lately they have significant changes and Glenwood have led the way and have been good innovators in “English” boy school rugga…. Do not think Boys High give any form of scholarships for anything and that is magnificent for them “they remind me of Arsenal great balance sheet can take the moral high ground about not buying players and developing their own talent but now even Leicester is going to win the Premier league before them”….. But a lot of the other schools do give scholarships for all sorts of reasons including academics should we start removing the distinctions and achievements of the boys who have academic scholarships from the matric results of school because it is unfair to compare those results to those of schools who not give academic scholarships. The is of course NO!!!!! do not be ridiculous and so in that way let us enjoy our ten minutes in the shine and who knows it might even be longer. We definitely have enjoyed the second decade of the 21st century more than we did the first.
@Grasshopper: Personally – that is not my concern if the school opts to put it into the HM’s personal bank a/c – their governance structures need to sort that out. I have more important things to worry about.
@Rugger fan: Thing is do we know for sure it’s actually arriving at the charity? One would hope so…
@Grasshopper: “Jes Foord foundation” Save the Rhino / Chris Burger/Petro Jackson / etc. etc. +1 +1 agreed
@Speartackle: In principle I dont have a hassle paying if I know it’s going to a worthy cause. The rugby festivals (like KERF) are R50 for the car – it includes parking and 4 or 5 peopel – so no issue at all for some awesome rugby for a full day.
Would be good to know where the fees go – I’m sure their daily take (R10 times 2500 odd people) could go a long way to a bursary etc.
But as a parent – we are paying school fees already – we paid for our boys to come on tour – we paid for a BnB and meals – would be great for the host school to just say come in and enjoy some great SBR now. It may keep the riff raff out – but then again we were warned at the gate that certain unsavoury groups are targeting schools to break into cars (and as we found out sadly – steal ladies handbags).
@Rugger fan: Unless the school is supporting the Jes Foord foundation where entrance is then 10 bucks, worthy cause though :-)
@Rugger fan: I wonder of these ‘Pay per view’ schools use those funds for all the ‘purchasing’
@Speartackle: Yep – pretty much all the games at the big schools (including the awesome DHS 150th rugby day) have no cost to enter the fields.
@Vleis: Unbelievable how time flies…..feels like yesterday when you were still contemplating where to send your son to and now he is already in matric.
@Ringo: Thanks.
Your younger brother is a proper laat lammetjie! I shudder to think how passionate you will be watching Jeppe if he makes the 1st team!
All good though, as schools (especially the government schools) need passionate, involved old boys like you. Not sure why you say, “…should he get in”, as I’d have thought that him being a sibling of a few OBs should guarantee his admittance?
@Ploegskaar: Landbou het n lekker span, speel meer met julle voorspelers sal my raad aan julle wees. (kanaal 1)
@Calamari: Daar was ongelukkig hopeloos te veel verwagting geskep deur al wat ‘n kenner en fynproewer is vooraf, toevallig nie een ‘n Bolanner nie. Niemand is egter in sak en as nie, manne sal die sakie regstel oor die res van die seisoen
Die Naweek se uitslae op Riversdal.
OAKDALE vs DANIËL PIENAAR
o.19A: 48-8 (Oakdale)
o.19B: 41-7 (Oakdale)
o.19C: 48-0 (Oakdale)
o.19E vs Daniël Pienaar o.19D: 52-0 (Oakdale)
o.16A: 57-0 (Oakdale)
o.16B: 52-0 (Oakdale)
o.15A: 38-0 (Oakdale)
o.15B: 50-0 (Oakdale)
o.14A: 53-3 (Oakdale)
o.14C vs Daniël Pienaar o.14B: 30-0 (Oakdale)
@Ploegskaar: Ek het net baie meer van die wedstryd verwag
Al die pad van Stellenbosch af deurgery met groot opwagting.
@Calamari: Ek dink nie dit was bloot ‘n geval van Landbou het nie opgedaag nie, ek dink Gim verdien meer krediet. Albei spanne het genoeg kanse gehad en Gim het 70% convert, Landbou seker 20%. Landbou se lynstaan opsies was swak op kritieke tye, veral net voor rustyd, terwyl Gim se besluitneming, en belangriker, akkuraatheid, net soveel beter was
@Bush: this kid is something else. He also left the field against Bishops only to return so I,m not quite sure. He must have nine live. Im not sure around protocol but according to the boys chat, he is all clear to run on this weekend.
@Rugger fan: Thanks, also glad to hear that Mjara is OK. I watched some of the u/19 games on the “b” field and it was fiercely contested games. Also watched the u/14 A second half and MC were never out of it. Although we were unlucky to lose the hockey in the final minutes you dominated the second half and the 0 vs 1 result was probably a fair reflection of the game. Overall a great weekend of sport and hopefully all the injured players will be back soon. Good luck with the rest of the season.
@Rugger fan: Is schoolboy rugby for free in KZN?
@OudUppie: Thanks GCB – great weekend – although I’m not so sure that MC came away with any wins (except in the hockey and table tennis)
Injuries were a sad element of the day – i spent a few hours in the hospital too following a friends son – and the wet conditions the previous week (while great to get rain) – left Windmill particularly slippery and not conducive to scrums – lots of blue and Red jerseys rolling in during my 2 hour visit.
Sad to see the GCB boy hobbling off with a badly strapped knee – that looked really bad. On the plus – After seeing Mjara being carried off in a rather serious form – he walked back to the bench late in the second half.
Good luck for the rest of the season – and I must say – a positive for College was their attitude that seemed lacking against Dale and Selborne – Saturday’s team would probably have given those 2 games a turn around – but as they say – the fat lady has already sung on those games and “die koeel is lankal duer die kerk”.
Looking forward to hosting Tang and his school this weekend.BTW: No talk of burgers – also question what funds are used for entrance at main game – I always feel like a canned lion when asked to pay to watch my son’s school play rugby? Not a common thing in KZN?
Daai Markotterstadion is nie n lekker veld om op te speel…..gras hopeloos te lank
@Speartackle: Grey PE was so goed soos wat PRG hulle toegelaat het. PRG gaan taai wees om te klop, want hulle speel goeie totale 15-man rugby.
BL het nie opgedaag nie.
HJS het gewen, sleg gewen , maar ons vat die wen en werk aan ons foute.
Grey PE het my teleurgestel
Paarl Gim was of briljant of BL het nie opgedaag
HJS live yet another day
@Rhino_67: If you leave the feel on a stretcher, don’t you automatically get sidelined for 2 weeks?
@Ringo: In 1996 we caught a nice klap from Jeppe at Saints, in fact we lost all 3 games…
@Grasshopper: Ringo and Big Mac, come on guys I only did that to provoke a reaction, it’s called banter. But seriously PBHS is off the scale re academics, a school cannot be good at everything. SACS is by far the best boys school in SA re academics and pretty good at rugga too. This looks like a very good Jeppe side from what I am hearing. A pity they not playing Glenwood as I think that would have been pretty close. Re Glenwood being good at eveything, that is rubbish. We pretty kak at basketball, jukskei, tiddly winks etc. Rugby is good but certainly not top 10 across the board. I think you guys haven’t been on this blog long enough to understand my humour….
@AffieOuer: He is fine. My son saw him post on Facebook that he was at the Sharks game that evening, so all good. I think he is very fortunate to have not come away with serious concussion. I am led to believe he will be good to play on the weekend. Thanks for the thoughts. Was a real pleasure to watch such a superb team play the game as its meant to be played. My only question to all concerned in the Rugby circles of South Africa is how do we manage to get it right at school boy level then entirely decimate it when these kids become professionals?
@Calamari: ‘Wian van Zyl
By die HJS wedstryd het die beseringspook ook kom kuier. Flankie Serdyn en ander flank vd Merwe is af. Manny sukkel nogsteeds met n skouer.
Ek het nog nie baie terugvoer oor HJS se wedstryd in George gekry nie. Skynbaar het ons pak swaargekry. Kwaggas se 13 was kookwater. Toe vian opkom toe steel hy sommer gou gou 3 balle, daardie bulletjie moet speel!
Geluk aan Paarl Gim, was nou nie die beste van wedstryde nie, maar n wen is n wen. Wina van Zyl, Muller du Plessis en Muller Uys is kookwater! Gim is top fiks, haker af enkele minute in die wedstryd in, Gim speel tans met hulle 3de keuse haker. Senters het so bietjies gesukkel vir my. Fiela op 10 is glibberig.
Goeie wen vir GC maar ongelukkig het ons “vriend” beserings ook weer ‘n draai gemaak. Tweede helfte redelik ontwrig deur die beserings. Wag nog om te hoor hoe ernstig, maar bekommerd oor Mario Vieira (10) hammy en Tristan Spies (1) skouer. Rewan Kruger (9) en Gerrie Koegelenberg (13) hopenlik weer eerskomende naweek reg.
@Bere007: lol
@Vleis: its slightly unhealthy but everyone has their vices I compare it to be a fantical soccer supporter an augment the wife does not appreciate. Plus I have a two year old who I would love to be a second generation Jeppe boy and tge fifth member of my family at the school after myself 04, brother 07, brother in law 15 and my youngest brother should start there in 2018 should he get in.
Well done to your son captaining your school’s 1st XV rugby is quite an admirable achievement chatted to some of the boys they mentioned that Saint Albans was one the potential banana peels this year as through the age group level games were close and tightly fought affairs
@AffieOuer…Listen properly …no 1…
@Rhino_67: How is the boy doing that left the field on a streture? That hit was terrible…
@Bere007: of dalk het ons te veel gefokus op waterpolo
@Bere007: @Bere007: dis mooi so, geluk. Seker oor ons op rugbyvoorseisoen gefokus het?
@Beet: Are the Diamantveld/Duineveld result correct?….about half the tweets and sites have it the other way round…..a bit confusing, but great result for Duineveld if the score is other way round!
@h2o: couldn’t agree more. The look in my sons eyes every time they ran back to restart was enough to break me. He had put his heart and soul into the game and to walk away 62:0 loser was a very bitter pill for him to swallow. Coaching staff finding their feet is one of the issues but the level of commitment from some of the senior players is not there. For a lot of the junior players it’s very much about getting the recognition from their peers for playing 1st Team but some senior players are more worried about trivial off field dramas instead of focusing and leading from the front. The synergy between coach and team will need to improve in the short term or else it’s going to be a really long season of little reward. Just saddens me that this was to be a special season for our boys and some poor decisions by key role players could ultimately cause the boys to finish their school rugby careers at a low point.
@AffieOuer. I will have you know Boys 1st Team Tennis Garsfontein 46 – Affies 43 .
@Ringo: I’m for one are going to make sure to watch Jeppe play this year. Enjoy the season @ Ringo! Respect for Jeppe!
@Ringo: Ha ha, love your passion for your alma mater Ringo!
Don’t worry, I’ve witnessed (vicariously) the strength of your dream team first hand four times in the past four years when they played against St Alban’s …and this year (if no injury, etc), my son will have the privilege of being the opposing captain.
@slagter: and if we all did our bit held the politicians to account and did our share of voluntering our country could be great….. But this is not a politics blog it SBR blog and I certainly hope this will be one of those season that will go down in the History books for Jeppe. But one week at a time Ben Vorster is going to be a tough game for Jeppe…..
@Vleis: Age cheats are dangerous hence a play by weight system would eliminate the incentive for and occurrence of age cheating I remember seeing this current group of boys when they first played in u14 and remember think would they are big boys and they are using their size to dominate their competitors watched them in u16 and thought wow the skill level in the boys was exceptional….. saw them struggle a bit last year in what I thought was too long a season for the boys…… Yesterday I watched what was rugby exhibition where Jeppe ran Boys High rugged in the second half…. the play of the day was a run from their own 22 in which the 13 and 15 must have passed the ball over 10 amongst each other before 15 dotted down under the sticks….. I truly believe we Jeppe supporters should bask in the ambience of the brilliance of this team and if you get a chance definitely watch them play. I think the space at Ellis park should be marvellous for these boys
@slagter: haha I will have you know Affies waterpolo is ranked 11th in SA , 2 places below Westville on 9 : http://www.saschoolsports.co.za/waterpolo/national/boys-water-polo-this-weeks-sa-school-top-40-rankings-9-03-2016.html
@h2o: problem is waterpolo ends one week rugby trails are the next week no time for pre-season rugby. I think watersports and rugby are very different in prep work track and field might be better for rugby prep maybe thats why afrikaans schools suck at waterpolo
@Ringo: that my friend is how you take the country forward and if the boy happens to be good at rugby thats a bonus.if one looks at the state of township schools u cant blame a boy for wanting something better.problem is we have millions that need that sort of help
@slagter: yes maybe do more athletics instead of waterpolo preseason….
@h2o: in the junior teams i saw a lot of big boys but very overweight, in my opinion they should realy start with conditioning not just for size but general cardio because it could get ugly at a 1500m
@Big Mac: absolutely took the words out my mouth… Thanks my good man
@Grasshopper: Devastating news to me. So glad the result validates you.
@Ringo: 2014, Glenwood 20 – Jeppe 14.
@slagter: Agree 100% new era with new coaching staff and personal in charge of rugby. By the look of the season to date maybe not this season. Unfortunately gees not going to win us games…. very frustrating
@Ringo: Yes, the Theo Jackson fund is not a rugby scholarship fund, but used to give deserving underprivilegeed boys a chance at a decent school life.
Jeppe never was, and never will be, elitist.
@h2o: I was at “wesville” this weekend great school lots of boere great gees great people need to sort the rugby with a 1300 boys
@Grasshopper: I enjoy this blog according to my wife a little too much…… matric results and in fact rugby results are a small component of what defines a school. I could give you lists and comparisons or maybe tell you my experience about how meaningless matric results are in the grand scheme of things but want I think I will do instead is a favour to all bloggers and in fact the world and say something that should put a cork in your insistent need for validation “Glenwood is the world’s best school they are the goodest at everything including ballet, curling, dressage and poker”
@Tang: I promise you Theo Jackson foundation is an incredible initiative and long may it last and prosper at the school……. But at its heart it is a school fees exemption scheme and it gives opportunities to deserving young men which is a chance to attend a decent school and exposure to a better life….. At a rough estimate there are nearly 130 kids that benefit from these exemptions in any form including the two rugby scholarships in the 1st XV rugby team. In total there are 6 boys who do not pay fees at the school and rugby is not the reason for 66.67% of them. School’s rugby has evolved we never had post matrics during the era it was popular and we got slaughtered. lets talk at the end of the season and tell me what you think. Boys High is fine institution however sporting prowess and excellence on the rugby field was one of the components of the schools allure
@Grasshopper: There is no scheduled matches between EG Jansen and Affies in 2016 amongst 1st teams.They will also not meet due to the fact that Affies is not participating in Beeld trophy.
Probably the worst Westville 1st team performance I have seen in 3 seasons….. the lack of quality 1st fase ball is a concern and it does not seem like they have a plan when they did get the ball. Affies were great but not by 60…. sad to say but I predict a win for School on Saturday. After 6 games we have not settled down which is worrying with the amount of talent in the squad.
@jakes: Never going to happen, 100 points plus on the cards. Do EG play Affies?
It is scary to think that Affies will still have to play Pretoria boys high later this year. Affies will have to play their 2nd or even 3rd team players against PBHS at current form, so it does not end up in a complete mismatch of the year I am afraid.
@Tang: Mate, don’t worry about the rugby that will come back with a little more focus. Your academics are great and that is what counts. I was actually quite shocked at how poor Jeppe’s academics were.
Jeppe NSC Results
192 candidates wrote
129 Bachelors Pass
50 Diploma Pass
9 Higher Cert Pass
4 Failures
67% Bachelors Pass
148 Distinctions
Avg No of Distinctions per pupil – 0.77
No of pupils with 5 or more distinctions – 6
PBHS NSC Results
285 candidates wrote
248 Bachelors Pass
26 Diploma Pass
9 Higher Cert Pass
2 Failures
87.02% Bachelors Pass
448 Distinctions
Avg No of Distinctions per pupil – 1.57
No of pupils with 5 or more distinctions – 33
I mean that is 300 more distinctions than Jeppe. That is like winning a rugga match 100-0!
@Matty: I don’t think I have said anything that hasn’t been widely reported.
I also think you have my sentiment wrong. It is not sour grapes juts a little disappointment. I felt very sorry for the boys being on the wrong end of such a loss.
Let us not equate a schools success with a few rugby results. Boys High have outstanding academics, sport is good and cultural is good. The downturn in rugby fortunes will be reversed.
I did say I agree with scholarships but just limiting the numbers. Your fellow Jeppe blogger, Ringo set me straight when he said there are only two players on scholarships in the Jeppe first team. I certainly and incorrectly believed there were more.
I also thought I complimented Jeppe on the turn around but in the interest of good blogging etiquette let me repeat the compliment. As I said above, there is an energy and passion running through Jeppe which has been missing for some time. The overall results are good and you have an excellent first rugby team this year.
Boys High draw boys from a good demographic and there are still at least 30% to 40% who are Afrikaans speaking.
I think I need to have a disclaimer attached to every post. When I blog about current Boys High rugby results and issues, I am not slating the school. I am expressing disappointment that rugby standards are not what they should be.
@Muzi You’ve completely misunderstood my argument I’m afraid. I’m talking more about the percieved decrease in the number of Afrikaans students, I would say that Boys High is still as white as ever?
Regardless, I agree with what you saying about football. The most followed sport at Jeppe is still footie, regardless of race (Jeppe is filled with Portuguese/Italians who don’t take rugby too serious, I know it’s the same for Bennies). I think it’s just a Jo’burg thing, I can go to any pub over here and I’m going to see more people watching the BPL than the S18.
Scoring players from Zim is only a Bennies thing. You guys have been doing it for a while now I’ve noticed
@Matty: In Gauteng soccer is the dominant/popular sport in the province amongst black people…just look at the PSL teams that come from this region…Bennies/Saints/St Johns/PTA Boys High/St David’s Inanda battle to put out competitive teams that can match elite school sides due to a lack of black talent coming through….guys in Jozi from those school just prefer soccer…look at the Eastern Cape/KZN/WC there is loads of black talent coming through simply because guys down there love rugby….that’s why some private schools in Gauteng scout for black talent from other provinces…..even as far as Zimbabwe….
@Tang: how big is the PBHS BE? I find the bigger the BE the better the sport.
@Tang Sour grapes much? Boys High were simply outclassed yesterday, it happens. Boys High will rise again as is expected from a school of such a standard.
I see you often moaning about what other schools are doing, particularly Jeppe, instead of looking internally to what perhaps Boys High is doing that is not working. Claims of “scholarships” straight after a massive loss make you sound like a sore looser.
Imo Boys High’s dip in rugby has been a result of the change in demographics of the school. I remember playing against teams that were entirely Afrikaans (I’m a young old boy fyi) now days not so much. Of course I am an outsider to the school so it would be silly of me to think that I know the dynamics of the place, I could be wrong. Would be interesting to know your opinion on why a school of 1500 boys is struggling?
Geez but that Affies – Grey College clash will be like a war….both sides are on beast mode.
Glenwood vs Framesby; http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/sites/default/files/SPORT%20RESULT%20VS%20FRAMESBY%2009%20APRIL%202016.pdf
@Tang: I stand to be corrected but I think today was the first time Jeppe scored more than 40 points against boys high …. We are very happy with the win today it is a once in a lifetime team we currently have…. but to be honest I been of the generation that suffered scores of of more than 60 between 02 – 04 …. I was delighted with the win today
@Ringo: I am not sure if you will remember when Jake White coached Jeppe. I remember watching many games between Jeppe and Boys High in the late eighties and early nineties. I stand under correction but I am sure Jeppe had the upper hand in the bulk of those fixtures. I recall Jake and Paul Anthony having many ding dong battles and I am quite sure Jake had the upper hand until he left to become a professional coach.
If I recall correctly, after Jake left Jeppe there was a slump and this seemed to carry on for quite some time. My point here is that Jeppe have had some very good victories over Boys High but probably not as big as today.
@Ringo: I certainly don’t believe the Jeppe uprising is only based on scholarships. Whenever Boys High play Jeppe, it is quite clear there is an energy and passion that runs through the staff. I think many factors have come together to turn Jeppe around. I have been watching Boys High sport since 1978 and I can tell you that the Jeppe now is very different to the Jeppe of the early 2000’s. This turn around must be celebrated because a great institution was saved and returned to its rightful place.
Jeppe are quite right to bask in this rugby glory as it has taken incredibly hard work. Jeppe did what they thought was necessary to turn the school around and no apologies are required.
BTW – Who is the Jeppe master running around on the side of the field and behind the posts? He always gets very excited when Jeppe concede points and finds it necessary to give some quick tips.
@Ringo: This is a very good Jeppe team and I think you guys are right to get excited about them. Excellent backline that will tear many sides apart this year.
Last year the number 8 had a stormer against Boys High
I am not against Scholarships. I just think the numbers need to be controlled. If they aren’t controlled, there is no end in sight.
@Vleis: Very good point about over age players.
Queens beat Marlow 25-15, think that was the score. Qc seem to have a repitition of last year, already a few injuries. The second team 15 is a great player, came on at half time for firsts. Played exceptionally well, just a pity he is so small. Think he played 10 at the kes festival. Going to be a tough ask next weekend on this performance
Having said the above, I agree with you 100% that scholarships is only one small part of the puzzle. Dedicated & committed teachers, coaches, plus great history/traditions…and, of course, a top class headmaster & school executive committee is absolutely crucial…and Jeppe has the aforementioned qualities in abundance.
@Ringo: I’m not close to Jeppe, but even I can name a lot of 1st team players (in addition to the ones that you mentioned above) that have received Theo Jackson scholarships (have a look at the facebook page, etc). You can argue that they received them for non-rugby reasons, but we all know how it really works.
Having said that, it doesn’t bother me at all how many scholarships a school provides. If it works, then good for them. The only thing that really bugs me is playing overage players. In my view, it is criminal in the junior age groups and cheating at 1st team level. Jeppe doesn’t seem to fall foul of this, but I can’t say the same for St Charles, Parktown, Bennies, Noord-Kaap, etc (allegedly of course).
We won in 2010 against boys high there was not one boy on scholarship in that team….. it is definitely circlical but we do get lucky now and then in the talent stakes…. but one question to you Boys High is a state school are you saying that there are now learners that are good sports or academically gifted that are exempt from fees ….. did there get those exemptions because they are good at sports ?????? I am tired of people thinking Jeppe is better school now because of dedicated professionals who take pride in what they do and believe in their own abilities ….. When I was Jeppe the Headmaster then did not believe in the school in fact his son was at Boys High now the educators at the school care about what they do and you can see it in the output ….. Jeppe is public school that loce s rugby and it’s nice that we are winning to now ….. just for those who care the final score was 59 – 18 to Jeppe and it was enjoyable to watch
@Tang: contrary to popular belief there are only two boys in the Jeppe team on rugby scholarships the 13 and 8….. To be honest its pure luck that they are this exceptional really lucky on our part…… I think boys were really good today really do think they are that bad just think they we come up against a brick wall in today’s game…. to be honest today was the first time in nine years that boys’ high won the u 14 a fixture against Jeppe…… you can not attribute every Jeppe win to scholarships it is lucky that we have been able to scout talented players but there 13 other boys who put in stellar performances today
@Ringo: I thought the incredibly young Boys High team did a very good job in the first half. The weight differential was quite scary. I would say Boys High were at least 100kg’s lighter in the forwards and probably the same in the backs. The amount of tackles made in the first half just caught up.
I don’t think there was ever much expectation on this team and I certainly don’t want to see Boys High replicate what Jeppe have done (in terms of awarding so many scholarships). Look at the u14 A result and this is with a small amount of marketing. I am all for a small number of sports related scholarships. If Boys High added five rugby scholarships a year to this u14 group, I think it would make a massive change.
I must give credit to the Jeppe Backs. They use the ball they get very well. The number 15 was excellent today. I think your number 8 is reading and believing all the headlines about himself. At one stage I was sure he was playing on the wing.
@Vleis: Sure
@Ringo: I’ll put a message up tomorrow if I decide to go.
@Vleis: I am volunteering tomorrow; then I have to ref womens’ game of rugby at Queens high but should hopefully make it there in time to catch the 1st XV game….. heard that in effort to raise funds centenary house bar will be open to serve refreshments after the game you must grab a cold fanta or three after the game …. I can get my boet to walk you through the things they trying to do at the foundation.
@Ringo: I don’t mean to be disrespectful to Boys High, but they do not even have a slim chance of beating Jeppe at Jeppe tomorrow. I say this due to the quality of the Jeppe team, plus it will be your first Saturday home game…so you will be properly fired up. I may pop over.
Sorry that was for the other tread….
@Playa: Yes I said it big sister ….. they have more in common with the girls school than us
@Knight_CHS07: How do you fancy your chances against the old enemy?
@ Tang I truly think Boys High might spoil the party at Jeppe tomorrow. I hope Jeppe wins by lot though secretly do not get me wrong, but I truly think tomorrow is season defining game for Boys’ High. The reality is that your fixture list is too difficult and there are no easy games like Potch and Saint David’s which you could use to build confidence. Affies are world number 1s according Beet and noone can beat them, 2x Maritzburg who know how to games even the ones hey should win, Kes lately seem to have one over Boys High everytime, Westville according to some bloggers are now known as Wesville soo might be tough for you guys , and even Saint Benedict’s, Saint Albans, Saint Stithians, Parktown and Saint John’s are all incredibly competitive and in fact I think in another 3 years Saint John’s and Saint Stithians will be competing with House again for the best private tag look at the systems they are putting in place and their pockets are mighty deep…… I think if Boys’ High win tomorrow your season will be turned out to be stellar season by should you lose by more that 30 points tomorrow you probably lose every 1st XV game this year and that might be straw that breaks the camels back for the school’s rugby philosophy
@Calamari: Kan jy dalk vir ons die jongste nuus gee oor Boeta, want die laaste nuus was dat hy die seisoen nie weer gaan speel nie en vroeër het jy gesê dat hy wel interskole sal kan speel?
Ek hoop regtig dit gaan so goed met die jongman dat hy wel die seisoen weer sal kan speel.
@The Beast: Cambridge High School is located in East London, not far from Selborne College.
http://www.netwerk24.com/Nuus/Algemeen/oakdale-spog-met-nuwe-sportsentrum-van-r-6-m-20160408
Lekker nuwe geriewe by Oakdale!!!
Of een van die manne wat by die huis die stream kyk kan ons uithelp.
@CharlesZA: Ek dink hy verwar tweet met poep
@Speartackle: Ek gaan by die Stellenberg game wees. As oom Kallie Marie kan leer om te tweet sal hy ons kan help.
@Calamari: Ek dink dit is dieselfde tyd as Eldo vs HTS
@Speartackle: Spies, maar jy kan die hele wedstryd op Youtube kyk?
@CharlesZA: Sal jy my asb more op twitter kan op hoogte hou van die Paarl Gim vs BL telling?
AS ek my nie misgis, het Vrede die naweek n loslooitjie
@Knight_CHS07: Ek dink Calvinia speel teen Luderitz ook, maar ek is nie seker nie.
@Knight_CHS07: Who is Cambridge and where they from?
Beet, please add: Hudson Park vs Cambridge
@Speartackle: Wonder hoe dronk hy vandag op die eerste gaan wees.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/apr/08/ernie-els-six-putts-from-two-feet-horror-augusta-masters
@Speartackle: Jy sal moet uitbrei, ek is nie nou heeltemal by nie.
Ek het nou nog die shakes na Ernie Els se 7 putt gisteraand
Pasop dat daar nie n fees is wat uitgestel moes word soos verlede jaar
@Calamari: Verseker!!!
@Oakdale supporter: Landbou moet seker die gunsteling wees op hulle eie veld?
@Calamari:Tyd sal leer. Dis laaste game van die seisoen en baie keer is daar ‘n sleutel speler aan die een of ander kant beseer of dalk by SA skole betrokke.
@Calamari: Dit gaan moeilik wees. Dis vir my oor al die jare wat ek ‘n Oakdale ouer is die game waar tuisveld voordeel die meeste tel.
@Oakdale supporter: Die Landbou/Oakdale interskole vanjaar behoort massief te wees!
@Ploegskaar: Ek stem saam dat Boland ‘n moerse span die jaar het. Ek het my verbasing uitgespreek dat hulle nie vir Langenhoven Gim baie verder gewen het nie, maar lyk my hulle het by Noord/Suid hul potensiaal begin uitstal. As jy na die jaargroep se uitslae kyk vanaf onder 14 dink ek self Gim sal hul keer moet ken.
@Ploegskaar: Stem saam. Helmut en Pieter het blykbaar die Gim span die fikste span in jare gekry, ek hoor wel dat Fiela beseer is, so ek si nie seker of hy speel of nie.
@Speartackle: Senuagtige praatjies, as jy my vra, albei se spanne het moeilike hekkies more. So, al die strontpraatjies van die buitestaanders ten spyt, weet die Boland afrigters, spelers en ondersteuners Gim speel altyd met ‘n 10-punt voorgee op die Kriel, en dis ‘n sterk goed afgerigte Gim span soos altyd. En dis al wat tel.
@Die Ken: Die gaan kop aan kop wees, hierdie gaan n harde neut wees om te kraak.
@Calamari: en hou die telling laag, sodat die verloor nie te sleg lyk vd rankings nie…
@Die Ken: Ons HJS manne praat NOOIT groot voor die wedstryd nie, Paar interessante brokkies inligting, Ek glo stellig Boeta Chamberlain sal reg wees vir interskole, kom Augustus. Ons yster ‘fetcher’ Vian Fourie gaan so 10min speelkans kry Saterdag,hy kom terug van harsingskudding. ek hoop hy beindruk, want ons kort n ‘Fetcher’, DRINGEND. Kwaggas is NOOIT maklik in George nie..so ons manne weet, koppe op die grond, werk hard, maak min foute en speel tot die beste van julle vermoens!
@Calamari: Beter as Papier en Willemse, saam
@Die Ken: Klink amper of hy nie sy gelyke in WP of SA het nie…
@Calamari: Is jy reg vir julle pakslae Saterdag?
Lyk my julle probeer almal in Ploeg se verrimpelde Meatloaf agterent in klim
@Calamari: Daai wedstryd 2 jaar terug, 27 punte in 20 minute (of so iets) spook nog by my
@Calamari: Die Boland-manne het hom laasjaar al so geroep…”sit hom op skrummie en jy’t nie n fly nodig nie”.
@Die Ken: Weet darem nou nie of hy so goed is nie. Julle het self n moelike ‘hekkie’ Saterdag teen Grey.
@Calamari: En Carstens, hoef nie eers proewe te speel nie, hy is reeds in die SA Skolespan, as skrummie en fly
@Die Ken: Ek het ook dit gehoor. Hulle pak is rof. Goeie 9.
@Calamari: Daai Bolandspan is top 5 hierdie jaar! Tot die Boland-manne se interne naam vir 2016 se span is “Team of the decade”..of so hoor ek.
@Die Ken: Dankie baie!
@Die Ken: Daar is wel nooit so iets soos n swak Gim span nie, dit moet ek vir hulle gee. Hulle veggees is iets ongeloofliks.
@Die Ken: Ek dink ook hulle kan vir Gim kap.
@Calamari: Boland gaan Gim verniel
@Playa: 2 uur
@Playa:
http://youtu.be/txQtHtg2ypQ
@Playa: No idea, if i were you i would much rather focus my attention on the game in Paarl, its going to be a massive one!
Kick off time for the Paul Roos vs Grey PE game on TV?
More manne
Die naweek is hier – sien uit na more se skole rugby.
Landbou met 3, PRG met 5, HJS met 15.