| POS | NAME | A/G | UNION | SCHOOL | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | PR | Franco van den Berg | u20 | Bulls : 1 of 13 | Randburg : 1 of 1 |
| 2 | PR | Jaco Holtzhausen | u20 | Bulls : 2 of 13 | Monument : 1 of 2 |
| 3 | PR | NJ Oosthuizen | u20 | Kings : 1 of 6 | Marlow : 1 of 2 |
| 4 | PR | Carlo Sadie | u19 | WP : 1 of 10 | Bellville : 1 of 1 |
| 5 | PR | Wikus Groenewald | u19 | WP : 2 of 10 | HJS Paarl BH : 1 of 2 |
| 6 | HK | Jan-Henning Campher | u20 | Bulls : 3 of 13 | Garsfontein : 1 of 2 |
| 7 | HK | Tango Balekile | u20 | Kings : 2 of 6 | Selborne : 1 of 1 |
| 8 | HK | Ruan Brits | u20 | WP : 3 of 10 | HJS Paarl BH : 2 of 2 |
| 9 | LK | Aston Fortuin | u20 | Bulls : 4 of 13 | Southdowns : 1 of 1 |
| 10 | LK | Eli Snyman | u20 | Bulls : 5 of 13 | St John’s (Harare) : 1 of 1 |
| 11 | LK | Hendre Stassen | u19 | Bulls : 6 of 13 | EG Jansen : 1 of 1 |
| 12 | LK | Rhyno Herbst | u20 | Lions : 1 of 2 | Monument : 1 of 2 |
| 13 | LK | Eduard Zandberg | u20 | WP : 4 of 10 | Outeniqua : 1 of 2 |
| 14 | No8 | Denzel Hill | u20 | Bulls : 7 of 13 | Jeppe : 1 of 2 |
| 15 | FL | Zane Davids | u20 | WP : 5 of 10 | Rondebosch : 1 of 1 |
| 16 | FL | Ernst van Rhyn | u19 | WP : 6 of 10 | Paarl Gim : 1 of 1 |
| 17 | FL | Nama Xaba | u20 | WP : 7 of 10 | Glenwood : 1 of 3 |
| 18 | No8 | Luigy van Jaarsveld | u20 | Bulls : 8 of 13 | Marlow : 2 of 2 |
| 19 | No8 | Junior Pokomela | u20 | Kings : 3 of 6 | Grey HS : 1 of 4 |
| 20 | SH | James Hall | u20 | Kings : 4 of 6 | Kearsney : 1 of 1 |
| 21 | FH | Manie Libbok | u20 | Bulls : 9 of 13 | Outeniqua : 2 of 2 |
| 22 | SH | Marco Jansen van Vuren | u20 | Lions : 2 of 2 | Transvalia : 1 of 1 |
| 23 | FH | Tinus de Beer | u19 | Bulls : 10 of 13 | Waterkloof : 1 of 2 |
| 24 | CT | Franco Naude | u20 | Bulls : 11 of 13 | Garsfontein : 2 of 2 |
| 25 | CT | JT Jackson | u20 | Bulls : 12 of 13 | Oakdale : 1 of 1 |
| 26 | CT | Stedman Gans | u19 | Bulls : 13 of 13 | Waterkloof : 2 of 2 |
| 27 | CT | Jeremy Ward | u20 | Kings : 5 of 6 | Grey HS : 2 of 4 |
| 28 | WG | Mosolwa Mafuma | u19 | Cheetahs : 1 of 2 | St Benedict’s : 1 of 1 |
| 29 | WG | Sibusiso Nkosi | u20 | Sharks : 1 of 3 | Jeppe : 2 of 2 |
| 30 | WG | Edwill van der Merwe | u20 | WP : 8 of 10 | Paul Roos : 1 of 1 |
| 31 | WG | Duncan Saal | u20 | WP : 9 of 10 | Kasselsvlei : 1 of 1 |
| 32 | FB | Keanu Vers | u20 | Kings : 6 of 6 | Grey HS : 3 of 4 |
| 33 | FB | Curwin Bosch | u19 | Sharks : 2 of 3 | Grey HS : 4 of 4 |
| 34 | FB | Morne Joubert | u20 | Sharks : 3 of 3 | Glenwood : 2 of 3 |
| 35 | FB | Eduan Keyter | u20 | WP : 10 of 10 | Affies : 1 of 1 |
| 36 | PR | Kwenzo Blose | u20 | Cheetahs : 2 of 2 | Glenwood : 3 of 3 |
EXCLUDED |
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| POS | NAME | A/G | UNION | SCHOOL | |
| 1 | PR | Gavin van den Berg | u20 | Bulls : 1 of 3 | Paarl Gim : 1 of 2 |
| 2 | PR | Lupumlo Mguca | u20 | Kings : 1 of 5 | Dan Pienaar : 1 of 1 |
| 3 | PR | Roche van Zyl | u20 | Kings : 2 of 5 | Framesby : 1 of 2 |
| 4 | HK | Le Roux Baard | u20 | Lions : 1 of 1 | Outeniqua : 1 of 1 |
| 5 | LK | Gary Porter | u20 | WP : 1 of 8 | Michaelhouse : 1 of 1 |
| 6 | LK | Jaco Willemse | u20 | WP : 2 of 8 | Paarl Gim : 2 of 2 |
| 7 | LK | Ruben de Villiers | u19 | WP : 3 of 8 | HJS Paarl BH : 1 of 2 |
| 8 | FL | De Wet Bezuidenhout | u20 | Cheetahs : 1 of 2 | Grey College : 1 of 1 |
| 9 | FL | Victor Maruping | u20 | Cheetahs : 2 of 2 | Louis Botha : 1 of 1 |
| 10 | FL | Lusanda Badiyana | u20 | Kings : 3 of 5 | Cambridge : 1 of 0 |
| 11 | FL | Saud Abrahams | u19 | WP :4 of 8 | Bishops : 1 of 0 |
| 12 | FL | Daniel Maree | u20 | WP : 5 of 8 | Oakdale : 1 of 1 |
| 13 | No8 | Jaco Coetzee | u20 | WP : 6 of 8 | Glenwood : 1 of 1 |
| 14 | SH | Paul de Wet | u20 | WP : 7 of 8 | HJS Paarl BH : 2 of 2 |
| 15 | FL | SF Nieuwoudt | u20 | Kings : 4 of 5 | Framesby : 2 of 2 |
| 16 | FH | Michael Brink | u20 | Kings : 5 of 5 | Grens : 1 of 1 |
| 17 | FH | Benhard Jv Rensburg | u20 | Leopards : 1 of 1 | Frikkie Meyer : 1 of 1 |
| 18 | WG | Andell Loubser | u19 | Bulls : 2 of 3 | Menlopark : 1 of 1 |
| 19 | WG | Divan Rossouw | u20 | Bulls : 3 of 3 | Windhoek Gim : 1 of 1 |
| 20 | WG | Zweli Siluale | u20 | Sharks : 1 of 1 | Baberton : 1 of 1 |
| 21 | FB | Tiaan Swanepoel | u20 | WP : 8 of 8 | Stellenberg : 1 of 1 |
@Grasshopper: I chatted to Jaco – he is recovering from an injury which is probably why he was dropped. I think he said he still had some to go before being cleared to play.
Met alle respek, my vrae begin hier beantwoord word, Skole vlak kompiteer ons uitstekend met NZ skole, net om op 0/20 vlak n span te kies wat ongelukkig aan sekere teikens/kwotas (noem dit wat jy wil) te moet voldoen. Dit is hoekom ons nie kan meeding met NZ nie. Wanneer gaan dit ophou.
@Andre T, @BuffelsCM: Carlu Sadie is die beste onder 20 vaskop in Suid Afrika. Alhoewel hy nog onder 19 is het hy laasjaar teen hoog aangeskrewe loskoppe in die onder 18 SA skole toernooi bewys hy kan skrum. Sy work rate is ook bogemiddeld en as ek afrigter was sou hom enige tyd in die beginspan sit.
@Mike: Not sure Mike but: last year Brandon Thomson was at 10 for the Baby Boks and kicked most of the time…under instruction IMO because during the season he played for WP and they scored numerous tries… he didn’t kick nearly that much. Therefore I don’t think it really matters what type of flyhalf is selected…he’ll always play “under instruction” ….if that makes sense
@Andre T:Geen rede om 4 loskoppe te neem nie: Carlu Sadie (vaskop) is uitstekend in die skrums. Ek het hom sien ontwikkel van kleins en moet sê hy is regtig goed. Ek weet hy is nog onder 19 maar ek neem hom eerder as wat ek ‘n ekstra loskop kies. Wikus Groenewald (onder 19) kan ook aan beide kante skrum.
@Andre T: Dink die Cheetahs moet eers plan maak met Immelman voor hulle vir EW terug vat.
Vir my het hy nie skill set van n 10. Die manne is mos lief vir rondskyf. Bang om n jong 10 te kies in posisie dan sit hulle hom op 15. Dan moet n ware 15 skuif om plek te kry.
@Grey Brak: Daar is twee maniere om daarna te kyk. Of daar is baie talent by ander skole ook, en dit is seker in n mate waar, maar in ag genome die “reels”en kriteria by die kies van “verteenwoordigende” SA spanne, dink ek eerder dat taltvolle spelers oor die hoof gesien word.
@CharlesZA: Ek dink hy moet maar weer Bloem toe terugkom…..dink hy moet n 10 word
@Andre T: Dit is korrek. Ek verneem hy is tans beseer, maar sover my kennis strek is hy deel van die Stormers oefengroep en hy is weer terug na heelagter toe. Word op vleul ook gebruik.
@Andre T: Hy is laas op die vleuel gewaar in die kaap.
@Grey Brak: O ja……die 15 wat op 13 gespeel het…….watter posisie speel hy nou en waar?
@Greenman: So waar duidelik het sy baie blootstelling gekry
@Andre T: EW Viljoen was laas jaar deel van die span.
Merkwaardig dat heelwat van die afgelope 2-3 jaar se top rugbyskole se spelers dit nie maak tot in die SA o/20 span. Wys dat daar baie talent lê by ander skole ook.
Misgis ek my of is daar nou 2 jaar in n ry geen Grey Bloem verteenwoordiging?
Het ons darem hierdie jaar n voorry of gaan ons weer met 4 losskoppe?
@Greenman: Hoop sy het vol punte gekry want sy weet defnitief waarvan sy praat.
Does anyone know if Curwin Bosch is going to play at 15 or 10 at the Sharks. It seems Theron picks the same mold of flyhalf year in and year out.
Ontdek hierdie skool takie, dink ek, wat my dogter geskryf het paar jaar terug en dink dis te kostelik en definitief beskrywend:
Daar is geen ander toeskouer soos hierdie een nie.. Hy’s sterk, vol ambisie, passie loop by sy ore uit! Moenie met hom stry nie ,hy is altyd reg. Moenie met hom praat nie , hy konsentreer mos nou en moenie hom bevraagteken nie want dan soek jy mos nou moeilikheid. Daar is geen maar geen ander toeskouer soos n rugby toeskouer nie!
Hulle is so talentvol geag hulle doen sommer 5 dinge op een slag! Hulle is die ref , die afrigter , die speler en die bal! Hulle is die kommentaar leweraars en soms sommer die dirigente! Rugby is Suid-Afrika se trots en moet baie ernstig opgeneem word. Dit is nommer een op die te doen lysie elke Saterdag. die braaier vat vlam , die yskas loop oor en die manne word meer. Wanneer Supersport roep kom almal nader en gryp n sitplek. Die ander hang sommer by die Bar rond. Nodig om baie te refill.
Die eerste 5min van die spel verloop gewoonlik heel rustig. Maar soos enige goeie rugby toeskouer skop die intelegensie in , die kommentaar begin vloei, die sweet begin tap , die handjies begin bewe en daardie ref .. ooh daardie ref.!!!! (SUG) Jy kry verskillende soorte rugby toekouers. Jy kry die still een wat ma net sit en kyk terwyl sy frons al hoe dieper sak. Dan is daar die een wat sommer saamspeel . Dan kry ons die kommentators (clear throat) “skop nog een keer daai bal uit my seun , net nog een keer en ek belowe!!” en dan natuurlik diegene wat so op en af spring dat die “nanatjies” naderhand spat!!
Half tyd word die drankies aangevul en tjoppies omgedraai , terwyl frustrasies en verligtinge met die mede manne gedeel word. In die tweede helfde word die selfde stappe gevolg en die eindtelling bepaal uieindelik hoe lekker daai tjoppie gaan wees, wie gaan bly en wie gaan ry.
Dis ek en jy die. Volmaak in kennis , dryf , passie en span hempies. Sal altyd daar wees om die span by te staan, hulle aan te moedig en ander sleg te se wat durf teen hule is. Tot n volgende keer!!
@Grasshopper: Sorry, I cannot give you a “thumbs up”, but there are many.
Sorry if Jaco Coetzee can’t make it then merit has nothing to do with it!
An indication of where SA rugby is heading. Merit plays very little role and we should stop pretending that it does.
Very unfortunate for Jaco Coetzee, Michael Brink and De Wet Bezuidenhout. Three players who could still be vital.
@Slam: Cant agree with you anymore these guys will not be on the same level seen from any perspective to compete with the European and Australasian guys due to the total lack of game time and and and
@ROOIBUL: I assume that you have some sort of link with UJ Young guns? If I may ask?
I think it’s time for new couches at U20 level. Dawie Theronosaurus likes the STAMPKAR rugby to much. The game has changed a lot and NZ have proofed this already. We need players that have excellent ball skills and that can run around the opponent and also losies with enough speed to do cross defense. This is why SA lose a lot of young rugby talent yearly, because of this type of system. The picking of this squat, how?
@Speartackle: Jy’s vergewe, ek het gesien jy kyk my aan soos n skaap voor n nuwe plaashek.
Dawie Theronosaurus quoted “Unfortunately, we will not be able to play training matches this year against the Varsity Cup Dream team or Argentina. That has resulted in a change in our familiar approach of the past two years or so. However, we are planning several matches against local club sides and hope to finalise those fixtures shortly.”
So these guys are going into a tournament without much game time as a team under their belts.
As Beet mentioned the norther hemisphere teams have played in an U20 6N, Australia and NZ play in a pre JWC U20 tournament. Australia have also got a Super Rugby U20 competition to identify players. I just don’t think the Versity Cup and Young Guns competition is adequate preparation.
Congrats to the guys selected for this “massive group”
Not sure what they trying to achieve with such a big group as I think that the crux of the squad has already been identified.
@ROOIBUL: Jammer ek het jou gladnie herken gister……het my heeldag gepla wie dit was en eers later my bygeval……en ek was doodnugter…..sorry hoor
I think Hayden Tharratt is very unlucky to miss out. Good luck to all those selected.
@hennieflank: Is dit eens met jou manne wat jy genoem het kan beslis ongelukkig voel, ek is net bevrees dit gaan die uittog van spelers aanhelp ek wil net weer vra hier van ver in die noorde hoe is die groep aangewys kan enige iemand ons inlig want as n mens daardie antwoord kan kry sal baie antwoorde beantwoord word, Beet kan jy n bietjie by Davie uitvind dit sal gaaf wees
@beet: krag teen krag. Ja. Your suggestion is the best and most practical for u20 level and will give all boys a good opportunity across the board I am convinced. Not truely a good view of what we saw on u19 level last year.
Kwartlyn ek stem heeltemal saam jou. Hierdie is maar net weereens n bewys dat sekere keuses gemaak word met n spesifieke mindset tov spelpatrone ens. Die Vrystaat se 3 name wat daar is is ek baie bly oor en hulle verdien dit beslis. Maar ek kan ten minste nog 6 bysit en dalk meer van manne wat hulle goed gehandhaaf het deur die jaar om ook ten minste n geleentheid te kry. Jordaan. Nel. Stanard. Koopmann. Denyssin. Vester. Stevins. Botha. Musa. Waaserman.
Waar gaan die seuns heen om net speelkans te Kry?
@beet: A bit like the old Springbok trials, loved those games….possibles vs probables etc
@ROOIBUL: it’s a problem I have been talking about for years. Like England has the 6N u20, we need a proper strength vs strength u20 tournament at the start of the year to use as the assessment for prospective players to make sure nothing slips through the net. It could be as simple as setting aside 2 separate match days on different dates at one or two stadiums where 4 games could take place one after the other on each match day. Theron would then see all the talent under one roof in match conditions and be far better placed to make informed selection decisions.
Well all I can say, why no player from the UJ Young Guns team(like James)
If you didn’t see UJ YG playing this year you will not know what I am talking about, their lowest score was against Tuks YG team.
The biggest problem with the U20 squat, is that the U18 Elite squat where picked automatically. That’s also player that was inform almost two year back and the U20 couches like the big STAMPKAR manne en van daai selfde manne het na 15 min opgegooi toe UJ teen TUKS YG gespeel het.
Wat UJ 42-31 gewen het.
@kwartlyn: James Venter from the Lions too, where is he?
2015 GLRU Under 19 Player of the Year – James Venter
Tristan Dixon?
@beet: I don’t think Papier’s mom will allow him to miss 2 months of schooling during his matric year.
@kwartlyn: Stem saam oor Brenden Verster. Kan nie glo dat hy nie eens raakgesien is Dawie Theron nie. ‘n Regte “enforcer” wat sy lynstane wen en ook die van die opposisie kan steel. Daarby is hy ‘n fris seun wat oor die voordeellyn kan kom en van die min spelers wat verlede jaar in al die Cheetahs se wedstryde gespeel het.
Is daar iemand wat my kan se hoe vd spelers gekies is en deur watter proses is die uitnodigings gemaak. ( geluk wel aan die spelers). Beet behalwe die name hiebo is daar spelers soos die leeus se een stut henco smit kan vaskop en loskop speel en so sterk soos n bees, brendan verster slot vd vs albei die spelers is tans in die curriebeker groepe. Verster is 2 meter lank speel 4 en 5 en het verlede jaar nie sy gelyke op onder 19 vlak gehad nie. Dan ook hkm so min vs manne in die groep, nou vra die manne hkm spelers oorsee gaan speel is dit werklik oor die beter geld of die geleenthede daar beter is. Kyk na paul willemse hy gaan een vd dae vir frankryk speel in SA was hy net nog n speler. Vir die spelers wat dit nie gemaak het nie wil ek net se die visnet in SAhet te groot gate in maar gelukkig is oorsee is daar nog n net.
Ngonidzashe Chidoma – did not play the entire 2015 u19 CC in spite of being a contracted player
Jerry Danquah – does not seem to have been able to recapture his school days glory after knee injury
Embrose Papier – still at school but there has to be more than a slight chance now that Theron will consider him for u20 JWC
Michael Kumbirai – one of WP u19’s most relied on players last year. Can only think he is injured.
Wandisile Simelane – Still at school and still u18
Hacjivah Dayimani – Still at school and u19, maybe an SA u20 chance next year for him
Tyreeq February – u19 at Lions this year, maybe an SA u20 chance next year for him
Cyprian Nkomo – u19 at WPRI this year, maybe an SA u20 chance next year
Kwanda Dimaza – Still at school and u19, maybe an SA u20 chance next year
Ngwekazi Khanya Ncusane – at school and still u18, currently wearing a double digit jersey number on tour
Kamva Dilima – u19 at Kings this year, maybe an SA u20 chance next year
Mashao Mukhari – u19 at Bulls this year, maybe an SA u20 chance next year
Embrose Papier is gr 12 in Garsfontein
Where are the following?
Ngonidzashe Chidoma
Jerry Danquah
Embrose Papier
Michael Kumbirai
Wandisile Simelane
Hacjivah Dayimani
Tyreeq February
Cyprian Nkomo
Kwanda Dimaza
Ngwekazi Khanya Ncusane
Kamva Dilima
Mashao Mukhari
…..?
From what I understand the final squad will consist of 28 players and although never expected to be made official there is talk that the colour split will have to be 50:50. So 14 previously disadvantaged players and 14 currently disadvantaged players.
There is good reason to believe this is true, so if one looks at the actual squad right now, there are a few bottlenecks and shortages in positions which will add to the selection difficulties.
Of the PD players there is
1 prop
1 hooker
1 lock who is about 1.95m
8 loose-forwards
No scrumhalf (not sure if Jantjies injured)
1 flyhalf
1 centre
6 wings
2 fullbacks
So there is severe congestion in some possies and worrisome shortages in others.
@Grasshopper…yes with James Venter.
@kcob: Ah with James Venter the flank? Patience is a virtue…
Hes at Lions Hopper. Thought my guy might have a shot but alas? All good though.??
Does anyone know where Kenny Van Niekerk is?
Well done boys! Good luck and fly the flag high. Hope Bosch recovers; has only had 2 games in about 7 for our Impi. Good luck Impi taking on the TUT tomorrow for critical points difference win to get promoted to varsity cup 2017…??
James Hall you give it horns buddy!
@Barry: Barberton? En EG Jansen vir sommige van ons Wes Randers
Nie een enkele speler van die Pumas af nie?
Well done to all picked, but particularly well done to the 3 x Glenwood Old boys in the mix :-)