ABSA u19 Currie Cup 2014: Round 1 teams & results


u19 fixtures for 2014 here

# BULLS u19 SCHOOL # EP KINGS u19 SCHOOL
1 Stefaan Grundlingh Outeniqua 1 Thembelihle Yase Cambridge
2 Francois Steyn Affies 2 JP Jamieson Kingswood/Grey HS
3 Matthys Basson Boland Landbou 3 Chris Whitting Michaelhouse
4 Jason Jenkins St Albans 4 Wynand Grassmann Despatch
5 RG Snyman Affies 5 Sintu Manjezi St Andrews
6 Martin Groenewald Grey HS 6 CJ Velleman Grey HS
7 Denzil Hill Jeppe 7 Tyler Paul St Andrews
8 Hanro Liebenberg Drostdy 8 Mihlali Nchukana Dale
9 Ivan van Zyl Affies 9 Jason Baggott St Andrews
10 Dewald Human Outeniqua 10 Jason Vers Union
11 Philip Orffer Affies 11 Lindelwe Zungu Piet Retief
12 Toko Maebane Ben Vorster 12 Luan Nieuwoudt Nico Malan
13 Jurie Linde Affies 13 Dominik Uytenbogaardt Nico Malan
14 Keanan van Wyk HJS Paarl BH 14 Thabani Mgugudo Grey HS
15 Warrick Gelant Outeniqua 15 Malcolm Jaer Die Brandwag
16 Jan van der Merwe Pretoria BH 16 Arno Lotter Daniel Pienaar
17 Burger van Niekerk HJS Paarl BH 17 James Beyl Marlow
18 Johan van Wyk Waterkloof 18 David Murray St Andrews
19 Calvonn Allison Affies 19 Gerrit Huisamen Grey HS
20 Impi Visser Ermelo 20 Qhama Mvimbi Dale
21 Dimitrio Tieties Noord-Kaap 21 Kewan Gibb Queen’s
22 Wyatt Murphy Paarl Gim 22 Luzuko Mase Dale
23 Johan van Wyk Waterkloof 23 Julio Abels Union
SHARKS u19 SCHOOL LEOPARDS u19
1 Mzamo Majola Westville 1 Farrel Kelly Drostdy
2 Wesley White Bishops 2 Louis van der Westhuizen Namibia
3 Ruan Kramer Grey College 3 Mogau Mabokela Ben Vorster
4 Johan du Toit Swartland 4 Louis Grey Potch Gim
5 Hyron Andrews Garsfontein 5 Walt Steenkamp Rustenburg
6 Marius Louw Grey College 6 Thys Joubert Noord-Kaap
7 Jean-Luc du Preez Kearsney 7 Jacques van Zyl Noordheuwel
8 Ayron Schramm Kearsney 8 Gideon van der Merwe Potch Gim
9 Matt Reece-Edwards Kearsney 9 Wessel Kuhn Warmbad
10 Innocent Radebe St Stithians 10 Christopher Arries Windhoek HS
11 Philip Marais Welkom Gim 11 Wessel Hefer Bothaville
12 Merlyn Pieterse Port Natal 12 Akhona Nela Grey College
13 Nkululeko Mcuma Glenwood 13 Elden Schoeman Vereeniging Gim
14 Chris Lines Kearsney 14 Allen Muller HTS Middelburg
15 Kelvin Elder Maritzburg College 15 Sydney du Plessis Kempton Park
16 Kyle Lewis Benoni 16 Boyza Magalakangqa Louis Botha
17 Mthunzi Moloi Kearsney 17 Morne Strydom Florida
18 Jonathan Levin Leeuwenhof 18 Dolf van Deventer Sasolburg
19 Wiaan Vosloo Klerksdorp 19 Tiaan Bezuidenhout Rustenburg
20 Jedwyn Harty Selborne 20 Julian Delicado Grey College
21 Reece McHardy Westville 21 Ray van der Lith Piet Retief
22 Joshua Bragman Hartlepool, Eng 22 Rudi Pieters Namibia
23 Brad Ellse Westville 23 Michael Kruger EG Jansen
WP u19 SCHOOL FREE STATE u19
1 Kyle Whyte Rondebosch 1 Ox Nche Louis Botha
2 Daniel du Plessis HJS Paarl BH 2 Reinach Venter Waterkloof
3 Frans van Wyk Monument 3 WP Eloff Affies
4 Ruan du Preez Die Brandwag 4 Erick van Niekerk Ben Vorster
5 Johan Momsen Paarl Gim 5 Hendri Storm Outeniqua
6 Charlton Jonas HJS Paarl BH 6 Willandre Kotzenberg HTS Middelburg
7 Luke Stringer Rondebosch 7 Junior Burger Duineveld
8 Rikus Bothma Paarl Gim 8 Jasper Wiese Upington
9 Justin Phillips Waterkloof 9 Christiaan Erasmus Nelspruit
10 Ernst Stapelberg Framesby 10 Andre Swarts Grey College
11 Leolin Zass Hermanus 11 Lorenzo Gordon Oakdale
12 Daniël du Plessis Paul Roos 12 Johan Nel Grey College
13 Jarryd Sage Wynberg 13 Stephen Rautenbach Grey College
14 Dewald Naude HJS Paarl BH 14 Gerrie Labuschagne Die Anker
15 Adriaan Carelse Hottentots-Holl 15 Sechaba Matsoele Voortrekker (Beth)
16 Martin Wipplinger Grey College 16 Heinrich De Jongh Garsfontein
17 Mihlali Mtongana Dale 17 Conraad Van Vuuren Nelspruit
18 Lebohang Mdakane Treverton 18 SJ Roux Boland Landbou
19 FP Pelser Witteberg 19 Nardus Erasmus Waterkloof
20 Michael de Waal Pretoria BH 20 TJ Goddard Tygerberg
21 Brendon Nell Paarl Gim 21 Darron Barron Paarl Gim
22 Ryan Oosthuizen Paarl Gim 22 Morne Van Staden Affies
23 Heinrich Buhr Boland Landbou 23 Gert Kotze Noord-Kaap

A summary of the weekend’s matches are:

Western Province 50 (20), Free State 26 (14)

Western Province scored 30 second half points in their 50-26 win over Free State in the City Park Stadium on Saturday. This strong performance was in stark contrast to the first half of the match, where the visitors enjoyed some good territoy and scoring opportunites.

An early yellow card against Western Province left wing, Leolin Zas, left his side reeling in the opening minutes of their season opener against Free State. The visitors used this numerical advantage and scored the first try of the match in the 11th minute to take the lead.

This did not last long though and soon after the return of Zas, his team started hitting the straps. Two tries and two penalties by the accurate Ernst Stapelberg jumped WP into a commanding lead before a late first half try by Os Nche rewarded the young Cheetahs for the efforts.

The second half belonged to WP as their pack took control. Their driving mauls caused havoc in the Free State defence, who responded negatively.

This resulted in two yellow cards to the Cheetahs and to further compound their ill-discipline, Stapelberg kicked a number of penalties to keep the scoreboard ticking over.

A late Free State try gave them a bonus point and some comfort away from home.

Scorers:

Western Province 50 (20). Tries: Brendon Nell, Daniel du Plessis, Frans Roelf van Wyk (2), Leolin Zas. Conversions: Ernst Stapelberg (5). Penalties: Stapelberg (5).
Free State 26 (14). Tries: Abraham Burger, Lorenzo Gordon (2), Ox Nche. Conversions: Andre Swarts (2), Tyron Labuschagne.

Vodacom Blue Bulls 27 (24), EP Kings 17 (10).

The Vodacom Blue Bulls started the defence of their Absa Under-19 Provincial Championship on a positive note on Friday by beating newcomers EP Kings 29-17 at Loftus Versfeld. The Blue Bulls took early command of the match and never looked back.

Three tries in the first 20 minutes laid the foundation to the bonus-point win. The EP Kings came back well in the second half of the match, but after that early blow there was only going to be one winner in the match.

A rash of substitutions on both sides affected the momentum of both teams and the Blue Bulls only managed the bonus point try nine minutes from time.

Scorers:

Blue Bulls 27 (24). Tries: Tries: Jurie Linde (2), Philip Orffer, RG Snyman. Conversions: Dewald Human (3). Penalty: Human
EP Kings 17 (10). Tries: CJ Velleman, Tyler Paul. Conversions: Jason Vers, Tyler Paul. Penalty: Vers

KZN 32 (13), Leopards 17 (5)

The home side had to work hard to overcome their visitors from Potchefstroom, but in the end won with a flattering margin. They also secured the bonus point in a strong second half when Matthew Reece-Edwards scored his second try of the half.

Another familiar rugby surname, Du Preez, got onto the scoresheet when Jean-Luc, son of former Bok Robert du Preez, scored.

Scorers:

KZN 32 (13). Tries: Ayron Schramm, Jean-Luc du Preez, Matthew Reece-Edwards (2).Conversions: Innocent Radebe (3). Penalties: Radebe (2).
Leopards 17(5). Tries: Gideon van der Merwe, Rudolph Van Deventer, Wessels Kuhn. Conversion: Chris Arries.

76 Comments

  1. avatar
    #76 Woltrui

    @Bull23: Stem saam Ryno Eksteen is FLIPPIN goed. Handre se algemene spel is volgens my beter. Sy skopwerk maak in my opinie die verskil. Daar was geen beter losskakel op die aanval as Ryno in 2012 op skool nie. Sy skopwerk was egter nooit sy sterk punt nie.

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    15 July, 2014 at 06:56
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    #75 Bull23

    @Woltrui: Jy moes sekerlik vir Ryno Eksteen vir Affies in 2012 gesien het. Jammer die beserings ry hom die afgelope jaar of wat. In 2012 se wedstryd Affies @ Paarl Gim asook WP vs Bulle by cravenweek was Ryno beslis beter as Pollard. In my opinie is Ryno baie goed en hoop ek hy skud die beserings af.WP kan sy aanvallende spel op10 baie goed gebruik.

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    14 July, 2014 at 21:10
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    #74 Ploegskaar

    @vatikaki: Nothing wrong with Coleman Sir, the glaring problems are at 9 (yes both!), have been at 9 and looks to remain at 9. We may have a flicker of light in the junior structures, but will have to find a stop-gap, soon, very very soon.

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    14 July, 2014 at 14:05
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    #73 BoishaaiPa

    @vatikaki: Might be small, but they have proven their worth in the past against bigger opponents..There is no better finisher and chip and chaser in the game currently as Williams..

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    14 July, 2014 at 13:29
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    #72 vatikaki

    @valke:

    Random!

    But that would suck for him. I had a burst appendix around the same age and it’s the most excruciating intense pain I think I will ever feel. Would’ve loved to have said I cried but it hurt too much for that. It’s then followed by 5 days lying in the hospital :cry:

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    14 July, 2014 at 13:07
  6. avatar
    #71 vatikaki

    @RBugger:

    Think Pollard made it pretty clear that he intends to play for only one SA team, and that is the Bulls. Unfortunate but maybe he can even lead them to change their approach/game plan.

    @BoishaaiPa:

    Eish I don’t think we’d survive with 2 such small wingers. Need some size!

    Also I thought Kobus van Wyk had an excellent first season and would pick him ahead of Patrick Howard any day.

    And Robert du Preez was an excellent addition. Better then Coleman/Grant/Catrakilis.

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    14 July, 2014 at 13:05
  7. avatar
    #70 valke

    @vatikaki: Sydney du Plessis was in the Valke Craven week team, but had to withdraw due to a burst appendix.

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    14 July, 2014 at 12:56
  8. avatar
    #69 BoishaaiPa

    @Woltrui: One player unfortunatly doesn’t make a whole backline Wolle!…Good as he is, he still has to play with one dimensional bull centres!..With all the backline talent being nurtured in WP at the moment the future looks bright…The forwards is looking even better! :mrgreen:

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    14 July, 2014 at 12:54
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    #68 RBugger

    @BoishaaiPa: Deadly backline that – Look out though for the guy who came on this weekend at outside centre – can’t remember his name, maybe Oosthuizen from Paarl Gim. I know he injured himself badly last year, but when he came on this past Saturday, he looked powerful and very promising

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    14 July, 2014 at 12:06
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    #67 Woltrui

    @BoishaaiPa: But you still won’t have Mr Pollard. Blindfolded and with one hand behind his back he is still better than that backline of yours Mr BHP :wink:

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    14 July, 2014 at 11:48
  11. avatar
    #66 beet

    @RBugger: @BoishaaiPa:

    Not helping matters is that centre Daniel du Plessis’s middle name is Michael and hooker Daniel has Mills for a second name so both DM du Plessis.

    Perhaps we need to revert to the WP 1980’s days – Schalk Burger and Schalk Burger Junior

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    14 July, 2014 at 11:35
  12. avatar
    #65 BoishaaiPa

    @RBugger: Imagine his cousin on his inside at 10 supplying him with sublime passes!…It’s my wish for a future WP backline!…

    9.J Nel/J Philips
    10. R Eksteen/JL du Plessis(If we an lure him back from Sharks)
    11. D Williams
    12 D Du Plessis
    13 P Howard
    14 C Kolby
    15 EW Viljoen/Keyter

    There are still plenty back-up as well!

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    14 July, 2014 at 11:28
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    #64 RBugger

    @BoishaaiPa: Look, both played well, the hooker is a great player and likes the physical exchanges. But I am referring to the inside centre, 12. Believe me when I tell you, this boy is the real deal.

    He can do it all, he has explosive strength, fantastic vision and huge amounts of gas off the mark – I could go on and on, this kid is just exceptional, that good that he looked like he should not have been on that field!

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    14 July, 2014 at 11:04
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    #63 BoishaaiPa

    @RBugger: The Hooker or the Centre?..There are two Dan Du Plessis’s in the WP u/19 team! :mrgreen:

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    14 July, 2014 at 08:51
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    #62 beet

    @scrummie: Yeah good to hear that both both Velleman and Human are continuing from where they left off at 1st XV school level last year – both were outstanding in 2013. Velleman known for his turnover technique and very unlucky not to have been picked for SA Schools while Human did make SA Schools as an x-factor ball in hand attacker.

    For rugby after school both have been labelled as being a bit on the small side. In SA there isn’t that great an appreciation for a turnover specialist with bigger ball-carrier 6’s preferred. The Bulls had an SA Schools 6 a few years back who was excellent at the breakdown but he was overlooked after u21 and now plays rugby for the Griquas – Marnus Schoeman. As for Human his ability to kick out of hand and tackle when required are bound to be put to the test, aspects that will possibly determine his longevity in the sport.

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    13 July, 2014 at 21:52
  16. avatar
    #61 scrummie

    If the Bulls are looking for a replacement/back-up for Steggies then CJ Velleman is the man for sure I have no doubt.

    @Bull23 : Dewald Human by far Bulls best player, just hope his size does not count against him later on. Jurie Linde started like a house on fire he was everywhere but he faded away as the match went on which is bit sad but he surely will be playing snr rugby soon so watch out jj and william small-smith etc. Ivan v Zyl also had a good game, was lively and had good service. Locks were okayish without doing any harm actually, Johan v Wyk that came on second half was impressive he scrummed well and made few big hits, he must start in next game.

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    13 July, 2014 at 20:10
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    #60 burra

    @vatikaki: Thanks. Definitely wasn’t a strong CW team by KZN with I think 5 U17.

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    13 July, 2014 at 18:06
  18. avatar
    #59 Ludz

    @beet: @scrummie: Cyril John Velleman is a quality player, future star if his height doesn’t limit him. Great leader and excellent attitude. Tyler Paul has got a big future in the game, remember the name. Happy with the boys’ performance, very encouraging from what I heard

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    13 July, 2014 at 16:27
  19. avatar
    #58 beet

    @vatikaki: Thanks Vati

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    13 July, 2014 at 15:31
  20. avatar
    #57 vatikaki

    Oh and Johnathon Levin went to Leeuwenhof Akademie (in Germiston).

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    13 July, 2014 at 13:56
  21. avatar
    #56 vatikaki

    @burra:

    Kerron van Vuuren – Lions (bye week)
    Banele Ngwenya – Lions as well I think. Will see if he plays next weekend.
    Roy Jordan Meaker – At the Sharks, didn’t make match-day squad.

    A weak KZN Craven Week side definitely doesn’t demand they all start somewhere.

    Now if it was a Western Province CW player who is nowhere to be found, it should raise alarms :D

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    13 July, 2014 at 13:47
  22. avatar
    #55 burra

    Someone help, Where are the KZN CW players (2013) looking at the team sheets above there’s only a few of them in. Where is the rest?
    What happened to these guys?

    K Van vuuren (Glenwood–?)
    Njabulo Gumede (MCollege Blue bulls)
    Wandi Mazibuko (Glenwood–Sharks)
    Corné Vermaak (Glenwood–Cheetahs)
    Banele Ngwenya (MCollege–?)
    Kurt Webster(DHS–Blue Bulls)
    Jordan Meake(Kearsney–?)

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    13 July, 2014 at 13:28
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    #54 vatikaki

    Louis Grey – Potchefstroom Gymnasium
    Walt Steenkamp – Rustenburg High School
    Rudolph van Deventer – Sasolburg Hoërskool

    Will try find Thys & Julian Joubert later (will take a while) but neither of them ended up being in the 23 anyway.

    – Farrel Kelly moved into the starting line-up at loosehead, with the loosehead switching to tighthead and Morne Strydom coming in as the reserve prop in jersey 17.
    – Hendrik Joubert was in the 6 jersey instead of Donavan van der Berg.
    – Tiaan Bezuidenhout in the 19 jersey instead of Thys Joubert.
    – Julian Delicado in the 20 jersey instead of Julian Joubert.

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    13 July, 2014 at 13:20
  24. avatar
    #53 kosie

    @Bull23: The bulls have 22 stand our players in Middelburg!

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    13 July, 2014 at 13:16
  25. avatar
    #52 vatikaki

    @beet:

    Sweet gimme an hour or so… playing FIFA atm :lol:

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    13 July, 2014 at 13:05
  26. avatar
    #51 Bull23

    @scrummie: Any news regarding any Bulls stand out players? I believe they lost their way after early tries.

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    13 July, 2014 at 10:50
  27. avatar
    #50 beet

    @vatikaki: You’re 1000x better at this than I am. How about some help with the missing Leopards schools. Walt Steenkamp is an enforcer type player. I’m keen to see his progress

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    13 July, 2014 at 10:18
  28. avatar
    #49 vatikaki

    @Rucker:

    Don’t know them at all… It’s more my knowledge of how search engines work.

    Learnt something at university – who would’ve guessed.

    Interesting stat regarding the Leopards U19. Only 8 Craven Week players in their 23 over the weekend, with no more then 1 coming from any team.

    1 Farrel Kelly (Boland CW 2013)
    3 Mogau Mabokela (Limpopo CW 2013)
    10 Christopher Arries (Namibia CW 2013)
    11 Wessel Hefer (Griffons CW 2013)
    12 Akhona Nela (KZN CW 2013)
    14 Allen Muller (Pumas CW 2013)
    19 Tiaan Bezuidenhout (Leopards CW 2013)
    20 Julian Delicado (FREE STATE CW 2013)

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    13 July, 2014 at 04:45
  29. avatar
    #48 RBugger

    @Phat55: he was exceptional, on another level to every other player on the field. He is to be watched

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    12 July, 2014 at 23:22
  30. avatar
    #47 Rugbyman

    There is a Jan vd Merwe in affies who played u13 cravenweek… he is now in matric, but he plays centre an wing… the jan vd merwe in the bulls u19 side is not the same player as the one in the u19 side… bit of useless info though… :mrgreen:

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    12 July, 2014 at 18:54
  31. avatar
    #46 phat55

    @BuffelsCM:
    strange that none of the 4 WP tries were converted in the game.the captain Bredenkamp got a hatrick apparently.

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    12 July, 2014 at 18:34
  32. avatar
    #45 BuffelsCM

    @phat55: Thanks !
    Very close score for WP U/21 and a high scoring U/19 match between WP / FS.

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    12 July, 2014 at 17:32
  33. avatar
    #44 phat55

    WP u21s won 20-17
    good to hear Dan du Plessis doing so well, very classy player

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    12 July, 2014 at 17:18
  34. avatar
    #43 RBugger

    WP were sublime today. Dan Du Plessis the standout player and to me, a certain Springbok in the making. Very impressive performance

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    12 July, 2014 at 16:42
  35. avatar
    #42 phat55

    WP u19s won 50-26

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    12 July, 2014 at 15:50
  36. avatar
    #41 beet

    @scrummie: To me this 29-17 result is the equivalent of a win for the EP Kings.I have watched Velleman, Jaer, Nieuwoudt (esp good at CW in 2012) and Manjezi before. Unfortunately Manjezi did not bring his best form to CW 2013 but along with the others offers quite a bit of promise. The player I don’t think I’ve seen play and who is highly rated is the flank Tyler Paul. It sounds like he will be on the shopping lists of a few provinces with interest already being shown by Free State.

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    12 July, 2014 at 11:21
  37. avatar
    #40 beet

    @RBugger: Just a personal opinion. He had a big reputation while at school – played 1st XV from u16. I watched him a few times at school level and always felt the hype exceeded the ability shown in the performances. Yesterday was for me the best I’d seen him play and he really stood out. He really mixed it up well and as you mention he is definitely not afraid of the physical stuff

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    12 July, 2014 at 11:15
  38. avatar
    #39 beet

    @BuffelsCM: :mrgreen: That is possibly another bit of equally useless info. Would have been interesting to see if he’d been claimed as an “English-speaking” coach if he retained his original surname.

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    12 July, 2014 at 11:09
  39. avatar
    #38 Rucker

    @Beet: Jan van der Merwe correctly reported in team list as Pretoria Boys HS. Vatikaki knows his Bulls schoolboys, as hierdie Jan played hooker for Candies in 2013. A fine player unlucky not to be given bulls school honours – missed out during trials due to injury I belief.

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    12 July, 2014 at 09:11
  40. avatar
    #37 RBugger

    @Beet: just arrived home after a long session in the False Bay bar as a result of a blady red card!!! Anyway, Radebe is a great player, why did you feel he was overrated? Personally, I feel he controls a game very well and does not shy away from contact. All in all, a very all rounded fly half…..?

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    12 July, 2014 at 00:46
  41. avatar
    #36 scrummie

    EP can feel very happy with their performance. Stand out players : 5, 6, 7, 12, 15 …, 10 also showed he has some potential. Especially EP num 6 CJ Velleman was BRILLIAT, strong on defence and kept Bulls defenders very busy on attack, short boy but powerfully built, surely he is gonna play higher up for EP pretty soon.

    @Muzi – where was this Xander guy before he arrived at Bulls ???, cause whats happening at snrs is shocking like you also mentioned earlier. Hopefully De Beer stays at Bulls otherwise WP is going to have best 9/10/15 at jnr level : 9 Justin Phillips 10 Tinus de Beer 15 EW Viljoen.

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    11 July, 2014 at 22:03
  42. avatar
    #35 BuffelsCM

    @beet: Must be the son of one Jacob Westerduin!

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    11 July, 2014 at 21:05
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    #34 BuffelsCM

    @beet: I hope Johan has grown a bit – I saw him during the December holidays in Hermanus and he was quite a bit shorter than his brother.

    If I remember correctly the tall lock wasn’t a regular starter in his school’s first team (I’m not sure if it was Potch Gim perhaps). I know the Leopards were looking for some tall timber and decided to pick him.

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    11 July, 2014 at 20:56
  44. avatar
    #33 beet

    Watched the Sharks juniors today. The player that impressed me most was Innocent Radebe – mostly because I thought he was overrated before today but he really showed he belonged today. In the second half Schramm and du Preez really came to life. Johan du Toit who is Pieter-Steph’s brother has lots of heart. I thought Reece-Edwards had a shaky start but overall had a really good match – this was sort of like the Sharks. Bad start and looked like a team that one could see taking 40 from Free State. Eventually clicked and had some nice passages of continuity.

    The Leopards lock Louis Grey is a giant and must stand around 2.10m. His partner Walt Steenkamp not small either but more bulk and more effective. The Leopards pack was good but they didn’t have the quality in their backline this time around.

    Useless bit of info: the Sharks hooker Wesley White is the son of a well known coach.

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    11 July, 2014 at 20:00
  45. avatar
    #32 beet

    @Tjoppa: Sorry. No data on Jan vd Merwe so googled “Jan van der Merwe” and Affies came up so seemed right. Affies player at the Bulls

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    11 July, 2014 at 19:50
  46. avatar
    #31 MSP12

    29-17 to Blue Bulls, EP 2 yellow cards cost them.

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    11 July, 2014 at 17:50
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    #30 tzavosky

    @Muzi: I know these two kids well, Jinx since Gr1, but he was trying too hard to get bigger.

    Tend to agree on Adrian. When I say he is good, I mean as a person. I wish he would be more serious about pursuing an academic career.

    Anyway, I see they won. RG’s granddad kept me updated untill half time. Were you at the game?

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    11 July, 2014 at 17:39
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    #29 BuffelsCM

    @RBugger: I couldn’t reply earlier – sorry about that. The crop of guys moving up from U/19 were not a good group of players as you may recall from last year’s performances (or lack thereof). They have lost quite a few players yes and therefore the need to use some of the “youngster”.

    I guess Robert is training with the Currie Cup group – I certainly hope so !!

    As Muzi has also mentioned, Vermeulen and JD will certainly be missed.

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    11 July, 2014 at 17:01
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    #28 Woltrui

    @Muzi: Agree with you Muzi. The Bulls has got a good team. The Bulls and WP will be the teams to beat. The Charkies and Cheetahs could be the dark horses. The Charkies has a formidable pack. I see some of the Cheetahs U/19 players is also playing u/21 (Daniel Maartins the Nellies 6-imo the best schoolboy 6 in 2013. F#&*#@n Mr Tredoux for nicking him. The kid should have been a Bull :evil: ).

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    11 July, 2014 at 16:06
  50. avatar
    #27 Playa

    @Muzi: I am highly impressed by his fighting spirit, and I hope the worst of injuries are behind him now.

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    11 July, 2014 at 15:51
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    #26 RBugger

    That is a very good start against a traditionally strong young Leopards side.

    Looking forward to the return of Dan Du Preez and Andrew Du Plessis, great start

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    11 July, 2014 at 15:18
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    #25 All Black

    Sharks u19 32 Leopards 17.

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    11 July, 2014 at 15:15
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    #24 Tjoppa

    @Muzi: Muzi I rate mr de Beer very highly as a schoolboy flyhalf BUT, and I hope I am wrong, not as a S15 or higher. He is a general in the mould of a Naas Botha but I do not think even Naas would have been a factor in the modern game. But hey what do I know.

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    11 July, 2014 at 14:50
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    #23 Tjoppa

    @Muzi: And the biggest clown Werner with the juniors. But as I am not a Bulls supporter I enjoy this. The Bulls management remind me of the old Saambou Bank board of directors. And we all know what happened there.

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    11 July, 2014 at 14:45
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    #22 Muzi

    @Tjoppa:
    As soon as Xander became the high performance manager at the Bulls, player acquisition has become a circus..especially in the senior side..he’s out of his depth…it would best for the bulls if he gets fired OR gets demoted just as a schoolboy scout…rant over. :-|

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    11 July, 2014 at 14:38
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    #21 Muzi

    @Tjoppa:
    Eduan Keyter…the name that’s on everbody’s lips…heard from an unreliable source that WP have snapped up baby naas botha Mr De beer…payback for poaching Pollard. :)

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    11 July, 2014 at 14:33
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    #20 Muzi

    @Playa:
    I was told Martin looked like the “real deal” in one of the warm up games..I mean this guy broke his leg…I wasn’t sure he would be ready to play but damn he’s a warrior.

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    11 July, 2014 at 14:31
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    #19 Muzi

    @BuffelsCM:
    That will weaken WP Under 19’s…

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    11 July, 2014 at 14:29
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    #18 Muzi

    @tzavosky:
    :lol: at least I’m not the only person who noticed that Jinxie Malapo looked overweight last year.. :mrgreen:
    Adrian Maebane is a talented player it’s just that I’m not sure if he can go all the way at the Bulls and play CC and super rugby…we had a similar situation with Andile Jho..Schoeman is a quality player. :wink:

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    11 July, 2014 at 14:28
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    #17 Playa

    Lovely to see Martin Groenewald in the mix. Now that is a story to tell my kid one day.

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    11 July, 2014 at 14:24
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    #16 All Black

    Sharks U19 UP 13-5 at half time. Reece-Edwards playing very well.

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    11 July, 2014 at 14:11
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    #15 Tjoppa

    @vatikaki: Is this then a case of Affies poaching players after school just to look impressive or is it a question of the honourable Beet dropping the ball again.

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    11 July, 2014 at 13:15
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    #14 vatikaki

    @vatikaki:

    There is a Jan van der Merwe at Affies as well, but he plays in the backs.

    This one is the reserve hooker.

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    11 July, 2014 at 13:07
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    #13 vatikaki

    @Tjoppa:

    Last years Pretoria BHS hooker.

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    11 July, 2014 at 13:05
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    #12 tzavosky

    @Muzi: Has Jinx lost some weight? His conditioning last year suggested he was aiming for the front row!

    I see you don’t rate Adrian Maebane. Good boy that, I hope you guys look after him well.

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    11 July, 2014 at 12:56
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    #11 Tjoppa

    @Muzi: Is Jan vd Merwe the Affies boy currently in GR12.
    Secondly glad to see Morne v Staden getting a chance at the Cheetahs. He played last year in the shadow of Eduan Keyter. Point I want to make talented boy not contracted but getting good exposure at the Cheetahs

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    11 July, 2014 at 12:51
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    #10 RBugger

    @BuffelsCM: I see – I know they were blady good last year (winners) were a lot of the guys U21?

    One more thing, I do not see Rob Du Preez in the U21 side? Do you perhaps know why?

    The U19 side still look very very strong, but JD AND Vermeulen would make a big difference to the side

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    11 July, 2014 at 11:15
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    #9 BuffelsCM

    @RBugger: I think it is because of a lack of depth in the U/21 side that they are using Vermeulen etc.

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    11 July, 2014 at 10:42
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    #8 Muzi

    WP and Free State the “beez neez” this year…I put it to all of you though the baby bulle are dark horses.. :wink:

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    11 July, 2014 at 09:57
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    #7 Muzi

    IMHO the baby bulls best backline is
    9. Van Zyl
    10.Human
    11.Dimitrio
    12.Schoeman
    13.Linde
    14.Jinxie
    15.Gelant

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    11 July, 2014 at 09:54
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    #6 Muzi

    That Bulls pack is going to rattle a few feathers this year especially the locks RG and Jason are monsters…not sure about the balance of this loose trio all three players are ball carriers…traditionally number 8’s…where on earth are the Malan twins?!?!

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    11 July, 2014 at 09:52
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    #5 Hanswors

    Thanks Beet for all the names. This is what I love….to see the teams and the familiar names!!!! Good luck boys – at last you are going to play some footie!

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    11 July, 2014 at 09:43
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    #4 RBugger

    @Scrummie: EW Viljoen is injured but will more than likely play for the U21 side. Province were certainly one of the favourites going into the season, but they are playing their star u19 in the u21 side – Vermeulen, Schickerling, Viljoen.

    The other Unions seem to be keeping the U19 sides together – this could count against Province this season

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    11 July, 2014 at 09:18
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    #3 Buffel

    Interesting to see Mat Reece-edwards back in town. It is right as they are a KZN family. :wink:

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    11 July, 2014 at 08:47
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    #2 scrummie

    WP vs FS gonna be a good game, WP must be fav in U/19 comp. Is EW Viljoen injured ?, also nice seeing Martin Groenewald from Grey High playing again.

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    11 July, 2014 at 07:18
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    #1 RuggaZ

    Whatever happened to Khanyo Ngcukana the WP CW fullback from last year?

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    11 July, 2014 at 05:29

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