This last week produced a high number of one sided contests. Here are the Top 15 big scores amongst the schools that this blog tracks:
| # | DAY | DATE | HOME | AWAY | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Sat | 31/05/2014 | Kempton Park | 89 | 13 | Noordheuwel |
| 2 | Sat | 31/05/2014 | Menlopark | 85 | 15 | Parktown |
| 3 | Sat | 31/05/2014 | Grens | 80 | 3 | Stirling |
| 4 | Sat | 31/05/2014 | Paul Roos | 78 | 7 | SACS |
| 5 | Sat | 31/05/2014 | Eldoraigne | 20 | 75 | Garsfontein |
| 6 | Sat | 31/05/2014 | Cambridge | 10 | 74 | Selborne |
| 7 | Thu | 29/05/2014 | Oakdale | 73 | 5 | Oudtshoorn |
| 8 | Wed | 28/05/2014 | Grens | 73 | 5 | Port Rex |
| 9 | Sat | 31/05/2014 | Despatch | 0 | 65 | Nico Malan |
| 10 | Sat | 31/05/2014 | Grey HS | 67 | 24 | St Andrew’s |
| 11 | Sat | 31/05/2014 | Kearsney | 63 | 19 | St Stithians |
| 12 | Sat | 31/05/2014 | Michaelhouse | 52 | 10 | St John’s |
| 13 | Sat | 31/05/2014 | Vereeninging Gim | 15 | 50 | Transvalia |
| 14 | Sat | 31/05/2014 | KES | 43 | 8 | St Alban’s |
| 15 | Sat | 31/05/2014 | Florida | 41 | 19 | Marais Viljoen |
@MikeSt: Yip he got a yellow for piking our scrumhalf up and throwing him down, in the second game he was also lucky for missing a player with his attempting head butt. Yes you are correct they are a very strong forward pack, but we have to wait and see what will happen against sides like Garsies and Monnas. But good luck for the rest of the Beeld competition.
@ROOIBUL: Just for information Stassen has not received one card the whole season.
Really fail to understand your statement on forward packs as if i can remember correctly and my memory serves me right the Rooi Bul forwards were not in the game against EG twice this year.
@Vleis: I’m sure it will be close as it was last year when they were u15. I can only dream
@Playa: I won’t count my chickens too soon! I’ve been disappointed too many times
@MSP12: Yes i agree with you but i think the likes of selbourne and Grey may be a bit far in terms of a school fixture, unless it’s a once off game for the u16’s this year which i doubt will happen. They will be part of a ‘stayers’ team that will play bishops and SACS at the end of the season so hopefully that will give the boys a taste of things to come in the next two years.
@Wyvern I have seen your u16 side they are a quality side but need stronger opposition to grow as a group, they should have been sent to some of the stronger u16 festivals, they were also very strong at u15’s.The Grey Pe u16 team is really struggling this year with results, a few good players in this side, that don’t somehow seem to gel.Selborne results wize it would seem are the best in the EC, so they would be the side to beat.
@Wyvern: I am sure they will easily put SAC away. I think KC can rest assured that they have the upper hand, ceteris paribus, for the 2015 & 2016 K-Day derbies
@Vleis: KC don’t play Selborne, so that is one cracker the world will not get to see.
@Wyvern: Sure, but KC were at a similar level to House and Kearsney, who I’d place at about 40. When do you play against Selborne, as that will help show what level your u16’s are at?
SAC u16 are not ranked (i.e. they aren’t in the top 65), so KC should beat them. That said, the SAC u16 team has improved a little every year, so I don’t think that KC will win by 50 – I forecast less than 20 and maybe even less than 10.
@Vleis: Don’t forget at ISRF the games are only 25min against each team, but from what i know the house team is quite good too.
@Playa: KC u16A drew to Hudson, as well as Port Rex (albeit 14 of our players were at EP trials on the day). I suppose we’ll have to see how they do against the likes of SAC, Brandwag and Graeme. I’m hoping they put 50 on SAC
@Ploegskaar: Ja Jaco was en ook Kreyno Otto was ook in HTS Witbank.
@ROOIBUL: Korrek, maar dink hy het gepost by Transvalia. Jaco Espag was in HTS Witbank as ek reg onthou.
@Andre T: Nee Pienaar was in Hoerskool Patriot op skool nie HTSW nie.
@Bere73: Nee Middelburg en Nelspruit speel Saterdag die semifinal en dan speel die wenner teen HTS Middelburg in die Mpumalanga final.
Jip Witbank het ons amper gewen, met nog so 15min speeltyd oor het hulle nog 22-12 voorgeloop en ja hulle was die beste span op die veld vir die dag. As hulle nie net vir die game teen HTSM voorberei het nie, kon hulle ook maklik teen Nellies of MHS gewen het. Die groot rede hoekom HTSW vir HTSM so baie haat, is omdat daar baie kinders van Witbank is wat eerder na HTSM toe gaan vir die rugby waar hulle weet hulle sal beter ontwikkel word en sal ook beter geleenthede kry.
@Vleis: I stand corrected, but I think they are unbeaten so far this season. Of course, they’ve only played the EC schools. They beat Dale 40-6 last weekend and have beaten Queens as well. Queens who have a much improved side, play wise, though results don’t show that, also lost to Hudson Park. Hudson have a strong team as well…not sure if they’ve played Kingswood, but that should be an interesting battle. Unfortunately, this is the age group where HP lose their players, so we will never see their full potential at 1st XV level.
It would be great to have more inclusive under 16 festivals, at the beginning of the year. Maybe the big Easter festivals could have the corresponding under 16 festivals running on the B Field.
@Playa: How have they done in 2014? Based on 2013, I’d say that they are only a little too low. At ISRF last year they beat Hilton 19-14 and drew with House. That said, IMHO the Natal schools are generally too highly ranked, so it’s more a case of House and Hilton dropping, rather than Kingswood moving significantly higher. How are the Hudson Park u16A’s doing, as they had pretty powerful u14A’s a few years back?
@Wyvern: Oh well…I still think they could give the majority of those top 20 sides a run for their money. All speculation though, as I haven’t seen a lot of those teams.
@Vleis: Goeie genaade! Yep, they are definitely ranked too low. in any case, anything outside of the top 20 in such rankings is usually the same bag of mealie meal. That KC team definitely doesn’t belong there. Interesting read these rankings.
@Playa: I think that you are correct re the major schools. In the more accurate ranking of the two, Kingswood is at 48, which is probably a little too low if one considers the teams around them – see below:
36 Michaelhouse (Kingswood are probably better than House)
37 Die Brandwag
38 Hilton College (Kingswood are definitely better than Hilton)
39 Brackenfell
41 HTS Drostdy
40 Kempton park
42 Oos Moot (??Affies D team lost by 2 points to Oos Moot’s A team!)
43 Marlow
44 Rondebosch
45 Daniel Pienaar
46 DHS
47 Tygerberg
48 Kingswood
49 Stellenberg
50 Voortrekker Bet
51 Noordheuwel
52 Hermanus
53 Vereeniging Gim
54 Noord Kaap
55 Hudson park
56 Queens College
@Playa: Yeah they’ve only played the local EC schools. Looking at that list it’s only Grey PE and Selbourne from the EC, both of which KC don’t play as a fixture. They should have gone on an end of season tour!
@Oakdale supporter: @Vleis: I’m surprised not to see the Kingswood under 16 team on any of these. Maybe they haven’t played any of the ‘major’ schools this year.
Look out for Monnas 8 th man, MOM in the Beeld final last year!
@Oakdale supporter: The first ranking that you put up was lest week’s version. It has been updated as follows:
1 Grey College
2 Monnas
2 Jeppe Boys High
4 Affies
5 Oakdale
6 Paarl Gim
7 Paul Roos
8 Paarl Boys High
9 Boland Landbou
9 Menlopark
11 Garsfontein
12 Waterkloof
13 Selborne College
14 HTS Middelburg
15 Helpmekaar
16 EG Jansen
17 Wynberg
17 Nelspruit
19 Grey High
20 Outeniqua
So, Jeppe are 1 on the one ranking and 2 on the other ranking – same for GCB. Monnas are 2 and 4, so the game between Jeppe and Monnas next week will be a humdinger!
@Andre T: Wel, ek sien dat Matfield is aangewys as kaptein. Die wedloop was tussen hom, Pienaar en Teichman
@Bere73: Ja, Francois Pienaar speel blykbaar weer
@ROOIBUL: Ek sien Middelburg Hoer gaan saam julle deur in die Beeld? Die telling was baie naby die naweek met witbank tegnies? what happened? Of het Witbank tegnies n goeie span die jaar?
@ROOIBUL: Two different rankings for u/16 teams. Interesting reading and always debatable.
Under 16 Rankings
1 Affies
2 Grey College
3 Monnas
4 Oakdale
5 Paarl Gim
6 Paul Roos
7 Paarl Boys High
8 Boland Landbou
8 Jeppe Boys High
10 Menlopark
11 Waterkloof
12 Garsfontein
13 Selborne College
14 HTS Middelburg
15 Helpmekaar
16 Outeniqua
17 EG Jansen
18 Wynberg
19 Grey High
20 Nelspruit
U16 RANKINGS 3rd June, 2014
1
JEPPE
2
GREY COLLEGE
3
SACS
4
MONUMENT
5
SELBORNE COLLEGE
6
BOLAND LANDBOU
7
OAKDALE
8
AFFIES
9
WESTVILLE
10
PAUL ROOS GYM
11
PAARL GIM
10
5.57
12
PAARL BOYS HIGH
13
GARSFONTEIN
14
MENLOPARK
15
WYNBERG
16
HELPMEKAAR
17
MARITZBURG COLLEGE
18
VOORTREKKER BETH
19
GLENWOOD
20
HTS MIDDELBURG
@Babbelas: Moontlik maar dit gaan nie maklik wees nie!!
@Ringo: No worries – just pointing out that you were very mistaken!
I think that all Jeppe teams will have comfortable wins. St Alban’s u14 and u15 age groups are struggling and the u16’s will be facing the top team in the country!
However, I hope that the u16A provides tougher opposition that 2 of the last 3 Pretoria teams, as you beat HTS JV by 90 and St Alban’s u16A beat Boys High by 17 to 3 a few weeks ago.
It was only in 2013 that there wasn’t a quarterfinal in the Tuks series.
It’s not just rugby; The 16 School competes in a lot of different sports. It rugby, chest, hockey, netball, squash, Tennis. A school can win the individual sport, but the overall points of the entire sports combine are added up for the school to win the Tuks competition.
Jeppe u16 win Monnas u16 that will be big, Monnas u16 are one of the best teams that I have ever seen. It’s only the “Fantasties” dad that’s spoiling there performance. Only the best u16 teams in SA will win against them.
Rugbyman, congrats with you team. The team to watch out for are Monnas, but the EGJ forwards will not be a problem for Garsies, Stassen will get a yellow before halftime. And just remember to beat Waterkloof the 2nd time will not be easy. And one of the real underdogs are the Kempies team never underestimate them, they will surprise you if you underestimate them.
@Vleis: I did say I might be mistaken about the average margin in the games.. I do believe the first team game will close but the rest of the games will be comfortable wins for Jeppe team. But the boys will be more relaxed and less physical than their last their last three Pretoria oposition boys high, john voster and affies ….
@Playa: This Selborne team is sublime! Anything is possible but I just don’t see how Dale will win this.
@Ringo: I doubt it, as St Alban’s 1st team is not as strong as prior years and Jeppe’s team is stronger than prior years. That said, St Alban’s 1st team beat Jeppe the year before last year’s massacre….so you never know.
Your comment that all Jeppe teams won by a margin of more than 50 is definitely not correct though. I think that only the u14 age group and the 1st team were over 50. Indeed, the 2nd team game was about a 5 point difference and the u16A was about 10. Also, your dream team (last year’s u15A) “only” beat St Alban’s u15A by 25 to 10….and that was with two penalties slotted over from your own half and two touch-line conversions. That said, the 88 – 0 score of the 1st team game could have been higher if your 1st team kicker did not have an off day
. I don’t know what happened to St Alban’s there, as their results against similar opposition were not too different to Jeppe’s?
@Vleis: This weekend Jeppe might be facing another banana peel game similar to the game against Northwood earlier this year. Last year Jeppe put up cricket scores against Saint Albans the 1st side won 88-0 and the u14 a score was 96-0 ….. And I might be mistaken but I think all the Jeppe teams on the day won by a margin of more than 50 so I think the Pretoria school will have a bone to pick against jeppe this weekend.
@Knight_CHS07: I’ll be happy with a respectable loss. Glad I will not be there to see it…LOL!
@Kingcharles:Not that it matters now, but Grey were well into the 20’s by halftime and finished it off shortly after the break with three quick tries displaying not only pace, but pollished ball skills aswell. It was a hiding any way you cut it.
St Andrews deserve credit for taking it to Grey early on and staying in the game as long as they did.
@AffiePa: Affies is a quality school the ethos and history can never be doubted. Really thought saturday was an opportunity to make a little soutie history most of the boys at Jeppe consider losing by less than 50 to affies to be a win. The boys really appreciated the physicality and skill with which Affies play . The u16 squad at Jeppe is the stuff of English boy school legend both the a and b team won . Really believe that at least 5 of those Jeppe boys will play Currie cup rugby. And in the outside centre and flyhalf we have a couple of future springboks.
@Roger: Maybe the Affies bloggers can answer this! Yes Tuks series is a newish competition. Beeld trofee is the more presticious of the 2 comps!
@Playa: I think Dale will give them a good run…but i honestly don’t see them (Dale) winning against this Selborne team. As for Cambridge…worst performance since 2011 rhaaa!!! I’m glad i wasn’t there to witness the horror
@Soutie 1: They mentioned the exams in jest. Poking fun with Affies!
@Babbelas: interesting – why do Affies no longer play?
So the Tuks series is a new competition?
@Roger: For more on the history of Beeld trofee you can read the following: http://www.affiesrugby.co.za/blog/admin-beker-en-beeld-trofee
Yes. But from this year the Tuks series had quarter finals as well. In the past if you win all your games in die group phase you can finish position 1 to 4. But if we loose 1 game you can only finish 5 – 8. This year the top 2 teams went through to quarter finals and could finish 1 – 8!
I think the Beeld trophy have quarter finals as well, not sure maybe 1 of the other bloggers can help us here!
@Babbelas: so they are both knock out format with a semi-final and final etc
@Vleis: yup – the KES u14 and U15 agegroup are pretty good – so it should be close.
The Jeppe game is in the third term so the break should do the boys good and KES wont have too may boys at Craven week etc – Jeppe do!
@Roger: I’ll tell you after I watch Jeppe on Saturday, but I think that your 1st team will have a chance of winning; however, your u16A will lose by a very wide margin. Your u16A have a good game plan, reasonable skills, a very good flyhalf and a fast outside back. They lose so many games; however, because they do not tackle.
I’m not too sure re the others, but my guess would be a win for Jeppe u14, but a tight u15A game.
@Roger: Other schools withdrew from Tuks series as well. Waterkloof was 1 and they were replaced by Garsfontein!
@Roger: Beeld trofee is the old “Administrateurs beker”. Actually the old Transvaal schools. Some teams have withdrawn from this like Affies en Pretoria Boys High
@Roger: Tuks series (last year it was called Nupower) have 16 teams which play in 4 groups of 4. here are this years groups:
Group A
Hoërskool Monument
Hoërskool Rustenburg
Hoërskool Klerksdorp
Hoërskool Kemptonpark
Group B
Hoërskool Ermelo
Hoërskool Pietersburg
Hoërskool Eldoraigne
Hoërskool Transvalia
Group C
Hoërskool Nelspruit
Hoërskool Garsfontein
Hoërskool Marais Viljoen
Hoërskool Florida
Group D
HTS Middelburg
Hoërskool Dr EG Jansen
Hoërskool Centurion
Vereeniging Gimnasium
@Vleis: and Jeppe ? A bridge too far you think ?
@Roger: I watched KES v St Alban’s u16A, 2nd team and 1st team. Basically, it was a bad day at the office all round. For some reason, our boys get properly fired up for the Boys High game, but not KES. I know that your u16A team was very, very fired up for this match.
That said, from what I saw, your 16A, and 1sts should easily beat Boys High on Sat…but you never know with SBR.
@CHS08: There must be some battered bodies in that Cambridge side. No shame in losing by that margin against a super charged Selborne team. I am dreading the 21st of June
@Kingcharles: Not quite, Grey High led 27-17 at halftime and then ran in three tries in the first eight minutes of the second half to get away. But, true, St Andrew’s fought hard all the way and were not disgraced despite the big score
@Vleis: KES play PBHS this weekend – will be interesting to see the match-up’s across the board.
Ddi you watch any of the games on the w/end?
@Babbelas: no Lions Union English Boys schools play in the Beeld trophy. Neither do Affies or PBHS do they? What is the difference between Beeld and Nu-power Tuks Series?
@Lindenpa: Thanks, so that’s why we are not aware that they have such a good team! I know that James Dalton was at Jeppe, Jake White also!
@Babbelas: No, Jeppe does not play Beeld trophy.
@Vleis: St Alban’s has a very good u 16 hockey team!
Cambridge produced shocking defence they better than that. Hope they bounce back.
@Roger: St Alban’s play Jeppe this weekend! Re u16: it’ll probably be the first time that a St Alban’s team plays against the top team in the country. Hopefully the former play better than they did v KES. St Alban’s u16 beat Boys High by 14 points while KES u16 lost to Boys high by 23 points, so a big win could’ve been expected for St Alban’s, but the boys did not have their best game.
A few years ago, St Alban’s 1st team lost to a strong KES team by 50 points and then beat the Jeppe by 5 points. As such, I expected KES to beat Jeppe by at least 50 points later that year, but they lost by about 15 points. That’s SBR for you!
@Babbelas: No problem, best I don’t mention a mallett then!
@Soutie 1: Agreed – across the board we had tough games. The Jeppe 0/16 side is special, they came back time after time and never gave up. I also think it was a full strength Affie side, no excuses from us – we were beaten fair and square.
It was a good day of tough schoolboy rugby – our 1st team is somewhat flattered by the score since the game was in the balance until 10 minutes before the end.
Thanks for the hospitality Jeppe – see you next year at Affies
@Roger: Does Jeppe play in the Beeld trofee? Eldoraigne’s u 15’s played and lost against Monnas in the final of the Beeld trofee. I assume then that Jeppe lost against Monnas then along the way??
@Soutie 1: Sorry, I do not want to belittle the Jeppe team. Actually I was not aware that Jeppe had such a good 0 16 team!
We know that souties can play the game, my all time favorite “Soutie” player is Gary Teichmann.
@Babbelas: Jeppe U16A are bladdy good – possibly best in the Noordvaal? Lucky for you Eldoraigne dont play them – unlucky for KES, we do
The KES U16 group is not our strongest
@BOG: @Djou: got the praisee version – happy to make up my own mind on this one – thanks.
@Djou: Im not saying that its not a big issue, but 700 comments later, is there anything that has not already been said?
@Babbelas: Why question whether the Affies U/16A side was at full strength? It was their U/16A’s.
It belittles the Jeppe performance, souties kan ook rugby speel
@Rugbyman: Eksamen???? Kan nie wees nie. Dit begin eers die 9 de! So ek vermoed hulle was voltallig.
@Rugbyman: Ja ek is ook so paar etes voor!
@Babbelas: Een woord: EKSAMEN!!!!
@kosie: Ek onthou ja… Ek is die ongemaklike fris outjie…
Ek het lank na die game met julle BL voorsitter gestaan en gessels… Nou nie oor die voggies nie, sommer net oor die goeie ou dae…
Ek sien Affies se 0 16’s het verloor teen Jeppe. Kan dit nie glo nie! Dit na hulle die baie goeie Grey College Bloem gewen het. Kan Affie manne dalk vir ons se of hulle span op volsterkte was?
@Rugbyman: Jy sal my dalk kan herken na Saterdag. Na die game toe die kinders alreeds weg is van die kringetjies, het ek alleen gestap na die braai area maar met ‘n draai en elke Garsie afrigter ens geluk gewens met die oorwinning. Daar was ‘n man wat voor geloop het en so 3/4 daar na.
Moet sê ek is darem bedank.
@Bog; It is a big issue when the headmaster of a school lies in public – did GC not have a 19-year old in the match against Affies this year? Because Affies has a policy of not playing against schools with 19-year olds.
@Deon Pitzer: I will never forget in primary school u.13 losing by about 60 points against another school in the Free State Region. They had 7 players in the Craven week team. However, one year later as u.14’s in high school – with virtually the same players, but just different schools, we won 12-4. And at first team level 4 years later the scoreline was very big in our favour.
@Van Mann: Bulle het in jare 90’s daai foutjie gemaak en Nokke Drotske en Os “Gatvol” du Randt te koop…….glo nie hulle sal weer nie
@Roger: Please, just one favour- dont encourage the resumption of that saga here- even in a different language.
@Van Mann: Ek voel net soos jy. Sy sukses in die Curriebeker is gebou op die rug van Rassie Erasmus se werwing en spelpatrone. Verlede jaar het die span gewen ondanks Naka en nie as gevolg van Naka nie. Die Cheetahsbestuur kan blykbaar nie onderskei tussen “ondanks” en “as gevolg van” nie. Weet nie wat in 2015 gaan gebeur nie, maar Cheetahs verloor baie spelers.
@kosie: Ek verstaan jou opinie oor jou seun en respekteer dit 100%
Kyk jy kry die een of twee ouers wat so tekere gaan maar orals, maar die voggies maak die manne se tonge BAIE los… Opmerkings van die kantlyn af soos: “ref maak oop jou oe” ens. is deel van rugby… maar wanneer kinders blatant sleg gese word deur ouers nogal raak ek naar… Daai ouers sit natuurlik gewoonlik Sondag oggend weer voor in die kerk ook…
Ek sukkel deesdae om Loftus toe te gaan ook… My seuntjie is nog in die laerskool en laasjaar met die semi-finaal van super rugby teen die Brumbies het ek skaam gekry op die hoofpawiljoen oor wat die mense om my vir Craig Joubert en die Brumbies geskree het… Dis walglik… Gin wonder ons afrikaanse wit mense se naam raak al hoe slegter nie… Ons gedra ons soms soos varke
@Roger: Affies withdrew for the following reasons – at leat these are the official reasons:
1) They don’t play in exam times.
2) They have a policy not to play against schools who field u.19’s.
3) They have a policy not to play against teams with post-matrics.
4) They have a policy not to play against teams who field “mercenaries” in their teams.
However, none of the above proved to be true, except may be for the exams reason.
Affies also withdrew against Menlopark. However, this morning the Menlopark headmster was on TV stating that he subsequently had a meeting with dr. Edwards, headmaster of Affies and everything was cleared up after it emerged that dr. Edwards made decisions based on wrong information at his disposal. So. they will play again next year.
Somehow, however, I don’t think Affies and Garsies will meet soon following dr. Edwards’ derogatory statements about Garsies in the media.
@Djou: Nog ‘n jaar van hartseer en pyn. Hy kan maar sonder werk sit, ek voel vir hom —-niks. Ons is al deur meer pyn as wat hy sal he as hy sonder werk sit. Sal dan net die spelers se vroue moet toe sluit…….
@Roger: In short they claimed we have post matrics from across the country in our side and secondly because they are writing exams in that period. Garsfontein replied in short that we have NO post matrics and also said that affies agreed to the fixture knowing well in advance that it falls within the exam. You make up your own mind…
@Rugbyman: Ek het die sakie van die voggies met ma gisteraand bespreek en ek sal dit met die nodige mense opneem.
Daar is geen rede hoekom dit so moet gaan nie. Daar kon by die braai na die tyd ietsie vir medisinale doeleindes genuttig word, maar wraggies nie so nie. Ek skaam my.
@GreenBlooded: Watched some of the games at Northwood on Saturday. U15A game was reff’d by a good ref who I think had a bad day – missed plenty both ways. But he did not have AR’s, so can be excused. 1st team ref missed just some crucial ones (also both ways), but he had 2 AR’s – NO EXCUSES. Northwood won both games, so not commenting because of a loss.
@Van Mann: As Drotske loop sit hy sonder werk. Maar ek verstaan daar is heelwat woelinge. Sy opvolger vir 2016 (ja ons sit nog volgende jaar met hom opgeskeep) is blykbaar reeds bepaal sou hy nie aanstaande jaar die mas opkom nie.
@Rugbyman: Dankie vir die korreksie. Aangesien die telbord nie gewerk het nie was ek onder die indruk ons het verloor. Ek sou nie graag op die blog oor my kind wil praat nie. Ek dink nie dis reg nie. Jy sal verstaan.
@Rugbyman: did you read my question? Maybe I should have asked you directly but in any event I was wanting to know why Affies pulled the plug. With Afrikaans not my 1st language and without having to trawl through all the comments on the other thread I though I would ask for a praisee (shortened) version? Can you tell me?
I was captain of the Gwd 8th team in 19 who knows when – we lost 103 – nil to College
Towards the end of the game The College guys were trying to pass the ball to any College boy who had not yet scored a try against us
I think this is still a record
My son’s team lost to college last year by a similar amount – but my loss edged him – just
must run in the family
@Rugbyman: En wie die minste vir eksamens leer……….
@Babbelas: Babbelas, ek staam. Weet nie wat se houvas het Vrotske op die ouman. Ek het mail gestuur na Cheetah rugby unie en dan word daar verwys na laas jaar. Laas jaar super 15 het Cheetahs in uitspeel rondtes goeie draw gehad – het nie teen Crusaders of Brumbies gespeel, het al die ander swakkerige spanne op toer gespeel en ‘n paar gelukkige bounce of the ball games gehad. Ek as Cheetah supporter moan ook al ‘n paar jaar oor ou Vrotske, maar hy is ook te dik vellig om sy goed te vat en te loop. Na Saterdag se powere Blou bul game, wil die Bulls hom tog nie koop nie asb???
@Babbelas: Sjoe… Nee die Beeld uitspele is baie taai… Daar is EG ja, maar ook Monnas, HTS Middelburg, Kempton, Nelspruit… Al hierdie spanne kan mekaar op enige gegewe dag klop – so dis maar wie dit die graagste wil he, wie die hongerste is…
@kosie: Hi Kosie, Just a small correction… U/16 was a draw between these two teams at your field… May I ask what position you son plays?
@Roger: Gee Roger… Let me translate the Garsfontein statement: THERE ARE NO POST MATRICS IN OUR TEAM!!!
I really hopes that settles it now…
@BOG: Agree! Nokke Drotske must go!
@Andre T: Well, the Cheetahs narrowly lost 0-33 the other day at Newlands. They obviously dominated- possession, territory, scrums, line-outs. The only place where they lost, was on the scoreboard. Why else would they re-appoint the whole management team?
@kosie: Heh Koosie – instead of me interpreting 659 Afrikaans comments on the Affies Garsies thread – can you give me a quick praisee version of what transpired? As I understand it, the good Doctor pulled the plug due to “Rugby Mercenaries” in post matric?
Rugbyman, baie geluk met jou span. Hulle speel puik rugby! Ek dink net EG Jansen staan ‘n kans om hulle te klop!
I was watched the game where Garsies played Eldoraigne. No excuses. Garsies were in a class of their own. I don’t think any school would have beaten them on the day!
Eldoraigne’s defence was extremely weak at times and it is almost as if they expected the inevitable. The score was 14-0 after 4 minutes. That stunned Eldoraigne. They were just never in the game.
Eldoraigne was out muscled, out thought and out played. The physicality of Garsfontein was too much for Eldoraigne. It is going to be very hard to keep the guys motivated for the next 3 games. Affies, Kloof and Menlo lie ahead.
I think what makes this even worse for the guys is the fact that as a team from U/14, they beat Garsfontein in all the junior age levels. My son just said that he does not want to talk about the game. Its almost like they want to erase the game from memory. They are hurting. Nobody expected the score to look like this.
Well done Garsfontein! You kept playing your game to the end.
@Beet, the final score was 75-20 with Eldoraigne scoring after the hooter. It was a dubious try but it was awarded under the sticks.
@BOG: I also heard that Klerksdorp was all over Grey Bloem in that 85 -0 defeat…………..until Grey scored the first try.
I know for a fact who was over who in 1948
I watched the Grey – St Andrews game and up until half time the game was a very good even test with Grey edging it at 13-12,the flood gates opened during the last 20 minues of the game,with St Andrews still playing good rugby,the big difference was speed,they could not match the speed of the Grey backs.
@GreenBlooded: I twice played in games with more than 100 difference in the scoreline. First time was in my first match ever, in grade 3, against SACS Primary, on the receiving end! It was also the first activity we took part in as a team with the English speaking boys at Primary. Communication went horribly wrong. An English dad gave us a little talk before the game started. The only part I really understood is that he promised us 50 c per try we score. So, I started spending all the money I would make that day in my imagination even before we ventured on the field. My first money making scheme turned into a huge f-up. I also recall one of the opposition boys coming up to me asking me whether I played prop. I did not understand what he was talking about, so I told him, no, I play rugby! I knew what a “stut” was, but a ” prop”???? 35 years later many of us still discuss that match and blame our loss entirely on communication. Years later the son of the dad making the speech, was again in my team. Again we played SACS, again his dad watched. I was captain. Std 9, Under 19F. The dad, unfortunately, did not offer us money for tries again, since this time we turned the tables 180 degrees and won by more than 100. Both games’ scir was 110-0. Apparanly we were very lucky to get 0 in the first game. Shows you how much the communication improved once we crossed the language barrier!
@Deon Pitzer:
You’ll be surprised how many will claim that too! I have a standard measure which states that the referee is absolved of all responsibility for the result when the points difference reaches 30. When it reaches 50 he may as well not have been in the park. I’ve reffed many a game like that – no fun at all. It almost feels like you are doing the standard referees fitness test – the dreaded bleep test – as you do your shuttle runs between the halfway line and the goal-line.
@beet: Biased refereeing!
The signs of the times. The stronger will get stronger and the other schools will become weaker. And here I have to take my hat off, although I do not agree with their methods, to schools like Garsfontein, EG Jansen, MenloPark and Glenwood.
In Pretoria it is often speculated why Pretoria Boys High is failing, rugby wise. The simple fact is that the boys that left Affies, when not being selected for the A teams, usually went to PBHS. Not the case anymore. They go to Menlo Garsies etc. So well done to the mentioned schools.
@beet: Although the match is not mentioned here,I was told that the GCB vs Menlo Park match was closer than the score of 68-15 suggested?
It’s called mismatches…..
@BoishaaiPa:
Crap defence!