BHP Rankings for the week ending 01 May 2023

# TEAM P W L D PF PA PD CAT PTS BP W% TOTAL AVG
1 Grey College 9 9 0 0 354 113 241 40.50 0.000 100.00% 40.500 4.50
2 Garsfontein 6 5 1 0 210 126 84 24.00 0.000 83.33% 24.000 4.00
3 Paarl Gim 8 7 1 0 283 129 154 31.50 0.000 87.50% 31.500 3.94
4 HJS Paarl 11 9 2 0 295 153 142 35.50 6.750 81.82% 42.250 3.84
5 Paul Roos 7 6 1 0 187 143 44 26.50 0.000 85.71% 26.500 3.79
6 Boland Landbou 9 7 2 0 220 138 82 29.50 3.375 77.78% 32.875 3.65
7 Outeniqua 8 6 2 0 262 103 159 25.00 3.750 75.00% 28.750 3.59
8 Affies 8 4 4 0 225 197 28 17.00 11.250 50.00% 28.250 3.53
9 Monument 10 6 4 0 304 183 121 24.50 10.125 60.00% 34.625 3.46
10 DHS 13 10 3 0 400 206 194 34.50 9.750 76.92% 44.250 3.40
11 Stellenberg 9 3 6 0 199 206 -7 11.50 18.750 33.33% 30.250 3.36
12 Hilton 7 6 1 0 214 97 117 20.50 3.000 85.71% 23.500 3.36
13 Noordheuwel 10 6 4 0 423 210 213 19.50 13.875 60.00% 33.375 3.34
14 Jeppe 9 5 3 1 288 219 69 22.70 6.000 55.56% 28.700 3.19
15 KES 8 5 3 0 172 129 43 18.50 6.750 62.50% 25.250 3.16
16 Michaelhouse 7 5 1 1 200 125 75 18.60 3.375 71.43% 21.975 3.14
17 Westville BHS 10 6 4 0 211 175 36 21.00 10.125 60.00% 31.125 3.11
18 Rondebosch 7 5 1 1 210 101 109 21.50 0.000 71.43% 21.500 3.07
19 Wynberg BHS 7 6 1 0 224 78 146 21.00 0.000 85.71% 21.000 3.00
20 Welkom Gim 12 8 4 0 384 292 92 28.50 6.375 66.67% 34.875 2.91
21 Glenwood 11 7 4 0 324 230 94 25.50 5.250 63.64% 30.750 2.80
22 Rustenburg 6 4 2 0 159 129 30 12.00 4.500 66.67% 16.500 2.75
23 Oakdale 9 4 5 0 164 198 -34 15.00 9.750 44.44% 24.750 2.75
24 Kearsney 8 3 4 1 164 138 26 10.90 10.875 37.50% 21.775 2.72
25 Grey PE 10 6 3 1 243 189 54 23.60 3.000 60.00% 26.600 2.66
26 Maritzburg College 11 7 4 0 340 238 102 22.50 6.750 63.64% 29.250 2.66
27 Eldoraigne 7 4 2 1 249 140 109 15.20 3.000 57.14% 18.200 2.60
28 Durbanville 9 5 4 0 279 218 61 16.50 6.750 55.56% 23.250 2.58
29 Queens College 10 8 2 0 285 170 115 25.50 0.000 80.00% 25.500 2.55
30 Fichardpark 7 6 0 1 226 149 77 17.70 0.000 85.71% 17.700 2.53
31 St Andrews 6 3 3 0 119 131 -12 9.50 5.625 50.00% 15.125 2.52
32 Middelburg 7 5 2 0 228 107 121 16.00 1.500 71.43% 17.500 2.50
33 Heidelberg Volkskool 8 4 3 1 164 127 37 14.20 5.250 50.00% 19.450 2.43
34 Bishops 6 5 1 0 241 79 162 14.50 0.000 83.33% 14.500 2.42
35 EG Jansen 12 7 4 1 323 200 123 26.70 2.250 58.33% 28.950 2.41
36 Selborne 10 4 5 1 214 204 10 15.20 7.500 40.00% 22.700 2.27
37 Helpmekaar 11 3 7 1 260 237 23 13.60 11.250 27.27% 24.850 2.26
38 Marlow 11 6 5 0 328 235 93 17.00 7.125 54.55% 24.125 2.19
39 HTS Drostdy 6 1 5 0 89 159 -70 3.00 10.125 16.67% 13.125 2.19
40 Kingswood 7 6 1 0 226 94 132 15.00 0.000 85.71% 15.000 2.14
41 Pearson 11 9 2 0 259 150 109 20.50 2.625 81.82% 23.125 2.10
42 Pretoria Boys High 11 7 4 0 289 257 32 22.00 0.000 63.64% 22.000 2.00
43 Nico Malan 11 7 3 1 293 172 121 21.40 0.000 63.64% 21.400 1.95
44 Northwood 8 4 4 0 150 167 -17 12.50 3.000 50.00% 15.500 1.94
45 Jim Fouche 12 6 5 1 368 316 52 18.40 4.500 50.00% 22.900 1.91
46 Menlopark 8 3 3 2 214 238 -24 14.80 0.000 37.50% 14.800 1.85
47 St Johns 9 5 2 2 207 180 27 16.30 0.000 55.56% 16.300 1.81
48 Parktown Boys 9 5 4 0 160 182 -22 11.00 5.250 55.56% 16.250 1.81
49 SACS 7 3 4 0 176 144 32 9.50 3.000 42.86% 12.500 1.79
50 Kempton Park 8 5 3 0 220 230 -10 14.00 0.000 62.50% 14.000 1.75

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88 Comments

  1. avatar
    #88 Vleis

    @tzavosky: That’s interesting:

    Re Centurion: When my lightie started playing rugby (u14) in 2012, I used to look up all the different scores because I’m a bit of a SBR nerd, but also to see how strong his future opponents were. A few weeks before he played against Menlo, I distinctly remember the Menlo 1st team losing by about 10 or 20 points to Centurion’s 1st team, but Menlo’s u14A team beating Centurion’s u14A by about 90 points! 8-O It was clear, even then, that Centurion was on a steep slide.

    I agree that the Ruggas system (per your explanation) makes no sense – especially as teams of all sorts of different abilities meet each other at the various festivals. I also find that a school with a good 1st team but which is in a “lower league” is penalised by the performances of previous 1st teams…and vice versa.

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    15 May, 2023 at 00:10
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    #87 tzavosky

    @Vleis: I’m not a statistician, but I’m curious to know how , say, Mussina will go against De Aar. The way schools play, that matchup is unlikely to happen in my lifetime. So, I’ve been collecting results since about 2010 (started off with 108 teams, and a combination of BHP rankings and that of Rugby365. The first year I could connect 108 teams, and it grew steadily to the point that I’ve stopped at 500.

    My system is based simply on who beats who – if you’re lower and win, you go above the loser. So, over 10 years one gets a good idee what’s going on with most teams. A team like Midstream College improved dramatically over the past 5 years and is now well into the Top100. On the other hand Centurion when I started was in the Top20 at some point, but they’re now out of T100.

    True, Allen Glen is going up the ranks, but as a team they haven’t beaten anyone in the T100 yet. RUGGAS has a pretty decent system and his rakings correlate pretty well with my system and BHP’s, but I have one criticism against his and corresponded with him about it – if a team plays aganst a team ranked much lower than them, he deducts logpoints from that team even if they beat the lower ranked team by 100 points (and the lower team gain the same amount of points even though they’ve lost by that margin) – it makes no logical sense to me, his argument – they shouldn’t play such a low ranked team.

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    14 May, 2023 at 23:42
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    #86 Vleis

    @tzavosky: Howzit. I don’t read the Nextgen website and my only knowledge of Allen Glen is that it had 10 pupils in the Lions President team that did OK (e.g. two point loss to Welkom Gim) at the St John’s festival this year.

    The 10 guys in the Lions team implies that Allen Glen: a) is pretty good for a “low tier” rugby school; and b) might have a “connected” coach driving its rugby program. I added the latter point as I’ve seen this type of thing happen at smaller schools before (e.g. Southdowns in Pta) and it would help explain the “hype” in one or two rankings where said coach may also have a “connection”. Of course, more hype equals better recruiting…but maybe I’m just an old cynic! :roll: :lol:

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    14 May, 2023 at 22:34
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    #85 tzavosky

    @Gold: I also had a look at Nextgen’s rankings, and it starts pretty much what most people think it should be like (give or take), but when I saw Allen Glen (and I have absolutely nothing against any school) at 75, above the likes of Transvalia, Witteberg, Lichtenburg, etc, it lost all credibility to me.

    (I check and record all the available results every week – AG will not beat a single school in the Top100.)

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    14 May, 2023 at 21:34
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    #84 4×4

    @Wonderwolf: sal nie weet nie, wat dink jy?

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    14 May, 2023 at 20:03
  6. avatar
    #83 Wonder

    @Wonderwolf: Sal verbaas wees as jy sinvolle antwoord kry.

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    14 May, 2023 at 15:55
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    #82 Wonderwolf

    @4×4: Vertel ons n bietjie meer oor Potch Gimmies…hoe gaan dit met julle rugby…gee julle ook beurse.

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    13 May, 2023 at 19:53
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    #81 Gold

    @JongMatie: Thank you, just had a look at NextGen and it’s a very different system that does seems to spit out a pretty realistic ranking. I do wish PaarlBoys PA would revert to what I still think was the best representation.

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    9 May, 2023 at 17:51
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    #80 JongMatie

    @Gold: NextGen has taken over the mantle of being the most reputable ranking institution.

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    9 May, 2023 at 14:29
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    #79 Gold

    Something seems a little off with the calculation compared to previous years.
    Can I ask what happened to the bonus points for winning by significant margins and for maintaining a 80% winning record?
    This to me was a very important part of the formula, as it helped better teams not being punished for having league fixtures against lower rated opposition. Equally the bonus points for losing close matches against strong opposition, but that has remained in these calculations as far as I can see.

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    8 May, 2023 at 15:54
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    #78 Kantman

    @Strepie: Skrums ook groot probleem. Die klein/agterspeler skeidsregters blaas vinnig maar het geen idee wat aangaan nie. Diep oor 15m gooi maak ook nie sin met 10m wegstaan reël nie – geen manier dat senter dit kan maak nadat bal oor 15m is nie.

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    7 May, 2023 at 19:38
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    #77 Djou

    @Strepie: Stem! Deesdae kan jy netsowel iemand op haker kies wat effens kan skrum en goed by lynstane ingooi, want ‘n vaskop haak is iets van die verlede. World Rugby en sy reëls maak nie sin nie.

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    7 May, 2023 at 16:15
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    #76 Smallies

    @Kantman: raak nie makliker nie ….

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    7 May, 2023 at 15:44
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    #75 Kantman

    Grey het reeds afgereken met 2,3, 7, 11.
    Volgende drie weke is dit 4, 8 en 9 se kans ….

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    7 May, 2023 at 15:36
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    #74 Strepie

    Die dae van vaskoppe haak is basies verby.
    Snaaks hoe jy omtrent nie n mm mag skeef ingooi by lynstane nie, maar by skrums is die reël by die agterruit uitgegooi.

    Skeidsregters raak pedanties en punterig oor die tegnieste deeltjies van rugby, maar mis die toespassing van die meer belangriker, groter reëls om die spel meer te laat vloei..

    Die kanker van van rolmaal drieë duur voort.

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    7 May, 2023 at 14:18
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    #73 Djou

    @4×4: Dankie ou maat! Sterkte vorentoe!

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    7 May, 2023 at 10:40
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    #72 OUD ANKER

    @4×4: Wat is die ooreenkoms tussen Menlo en Tuks…obvious dan wat met Menlo gebeur.

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    7 May, 2023 at 06:55
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    #71 4×4

    Baie geluk Garsies met julle wen!!! Wel verdiend en dit sonder 2 van julle staatmaker spelers!
    Hartseer wat met Menlo gebeur!

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    6 May, 2023 at 22:29
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    #70 tzavosky

    @Jakkals: Jip, jy is verplig om twee volledige stel voorrye te hê, maar jy moet ook spesifiseer of jou stutte ‘n vaskop/loskop is, of albei kante kan sak.

    ‘n Paar jaar gelede het ons ‘n close toets teen die AB’s verloor (kan nie meer onthou wanneer nie), omdat die heel laaste vereiste nie deur die Bok kamp nagekom is nie. Frans Malherbe is beseer en vervang deur Vincent Koch, maar kort voor die einde is Koch ook beseer. Daar was ‘n skrum op die AB’s se doellyn, en op daai stadium het die Bokke hulle op die planke gehad met ‘n reeks skrum strafskoppe teen hulle.

    Dit was die AB’s se ingooi en die Bokke wou weer gaan vir die strafskop, toe stuur hulle Trevor Nyakane op om Koch te vervang, maar die Bokke het versuim om te stipuleer dat hy albei kante kan sak (hy was op die spanlys as loskop), so dit het ‘n uncontested skrum geword. AB’s het die bal uitgeskop en dit was die eindfluitjie.

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    6 May, 2023 at 13:25
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    #69 OUD ANKER

    @Smallies:Jip, die Rooi Duiwels het gewoonlik die rugby game met 60 verloor, maar die geveg gewen met ‘n TKO in die 2e helfte.

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    6 May, 2023 at 07:39
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    #68 Jakkals

    @Grizzly: Pro spanne word verplig om 3 voorrye op die bank te hê sodat hulle uncontested scrums kan vermy. Wat Rassie anders begin doen het was die 6-2 split….6 voorspeler reserwes en 2 agter…

    Selfs skole spanne moet nou 3 voorry plaasvervangers op hulle boksmart vorm hê

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    6 May, 2023 at 05:10
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    #67 Smallies

    @OUD ANKER: ja maar dis die rooi duiwels op Pam Brink met Tjaart heel voor in die koor ,hulle het baie games verloor ,maar het nie baie verloor nie….

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    6 May, 2023 at 01:01
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    #66 Grizzly

    @tzavosky: Ek gee nie om wat se filosofie dok of kitch of Ras het of gehad het nie.Daars geen manier wat iemand vir my speel as hy op sy vinnigste hardloop en ek loop hom weg nie…dit maak nie sin nie.

    Rugby is nie n Nissan wat in n fabriek gebou word wat iemand n seker taak op n sekere tyd moet uitvoer nie.

    As jy iemand kies in rugby vir een of twee sekere take dan mis ek iets.Vernaam as daai persoon dit net in n kwart van die wedstryd kan doen…want dis die reality.

    Bands is nooit rond gestoot in die skrums nie en hoe later in die wedstryd hoe meer het hy terug gekom se teen n skrummer soos Os omdat hy was wie hy was,so op sy swakste dag teen die beste het hy n 50/50 beleef.

    Dis hoekom Ras n full front bench kies want die som is eenvoudig.In rugby moet jy soveel meer doen as jou posisie en die som van wat van jou verwag word.

    Slotte spring nie net nie,loskakels skop nie net nie,loosies tackle nie net nie,senters breek nie net nie,vleuls druk nie net driee nie,full backs vang nie net nie,hakers haak nie net nie.

    Die enigste rugby speler wat n mandaat gehad het was Naas nl gaan wen vir ons die game…hoe jy dit doen is besides the point.

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    5 May, 2023 at 23:11
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    #65 OUD ANKER

    @Smallies: Nou moet ek ook egter noem dat ek die dag op die Pam Brink stadium in Springs was toe die Vrystaat met Piet en Andre Bester in die span die dag teen die Oos Transvaalse Rooi Duiwels gespeel het en Blackie Volschenk (ek dink hyt vir Nigel of Delmas gespeel) vir die einste Mighty Mouse Piet Bester pap geskrum het en sommer op die koop toe 10 minute voor halftyd vir Andre Bester met ‘n perfekte regter haak hou vir die volle 10 tellings “planke” toe gestuur het. Daai tyd was daar nie geel of rooi kaarte vir haakhoue in ‘n skrum nie

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    5 May, 2023 at 23:03
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    #64 OUD ANKER

    @BoishaaiPa: En legendariese afrigters het geglo (en hulle is ook reg bewys) aan die goue lyn 1 wat enige rugby span ‘n goeie span maak, die goue lyn is jou no 2, 8, 9, 10, 15 en die 1 is jou nommer 3. Gaan kyk bietjie na al die world cup wenner en legendariese goeie spanne, almal het altyd briljante no 2, 8, 9, 10, 15 en die 1 i.e. die nommer 3 stut gehad. Wyle Buurman van Zyl het destyds na hierdie goue lyn 1 verwysing begin en het menige soos Kitch Christie, hom dit nagedoen

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    5 May, 2023 at 22:48
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    #63 BoishaaiPa

    @tzavosky: Jy is reg ook Dok…daai man vas geglo in vaskoppe. As jy so deur die jare na mees suksesvolste Bok spanne kyk was daar altyd n legend op vaskop…30’s was dit Fanie Louw..50’s Okey Geffin, 60’s Piet Spiere du Toit…ens..Hannes Marais seker enigste legend wat ongelukkig homself teen die 74 Leeus vasgeloop het..maar hy het goeie run gehad in vroee 70’s.

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    5 May, 2023 at 21:26
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    #62 Kantman

    @Smallies: Die oorspronklile Mighty Mouse het vir die 1974 Britse Leeus gespeel – Ian McClouglin.

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    5 May, 2023 at 21:19
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    #61 Jakkals

    @Grizzly: Ek het ook gelees dat Os sê dat Dougie Heymans hom n go gegee het….hy het wel gesê die enigste stut wat hom ore aan gesit het was Olo Brown….maar Os was toe nog jonk vir n voorry en nie in sy prime nie.

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    5 May, 2023 at 20:06
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    #60 Wonder

    @Smallies: Wat van Frans Erasmus (Domkrag) ? En groot Filp vnd Merwe, die ander stut pap gelê.

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    5 May, 2023 at 18:22
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    #59 Smallies

    @Kantman: jip vandaar die bynaam mighty mouse,ek het ook eendag gesien hoe hy en sy broer die hele All Black pack pap slaan

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    5 May, 2023 at 17:44
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    #58 Kantman

    @Smallies: Piet het 20kg een jaar in die afseisoen opgetel …, nog steeds nie 100kg gemaak nie. Tough as nails

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    5 May, 2023 at 17:38
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    #57 tzavosky

    @Grizzly: Ek dink Kitch het dieselfde filosofie as Rassie gehad (jy het seker “Chasing the Sun” gekyk?), nl dat op internasionale vlak skrum dominansie jou halfpad oor die wenstreep kry.

    Laubscher het weens ‘n besering nie in die ’95 WB gespeel nie, maar aan die einde van die jaar was hy terug in die span wat Europa toe is, en Kitch het hom bo Balie Swart en Garry Pagel (die vaskoppe in die WB – eintlik kon albei los- en vaskop speel) gekies in 2 toetse.

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    5 May, 2023 at 17:28
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    #56 Grizzly

    @tzavosky: Ja dit was sy woorde.Geen vaskop het Os geroer nie maar in sy woorde die sterkste teen wie hy geskrum het was Dougie Heymans.

    Ek sal nooit n Tommy Loubcher kies nie,Kitch het seker iets geweet wat ek nie weet nie.

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    5 May, 2023 at 16:51
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    #55 Smallies

    @OUD ANKER: Ek het n game gekyk in Bloem waar hy teen Mighty mouse Piet Bester geskrum het,Gerrie Sonnekus en Gysie Pienaar was toe die Vrystaat afrigters,die heel week is die koerante vol van Piet Bester wat beseer was en nie gaan speel nie ….lang storie kort NTVL draf eerste op en toe alleen kom Piet Bester op ,daardie dag was Jan HEELDAG in reverse ,ek dink hy is net so drie weke later oorlede ,dit was sy laaste game teen die Vrystaat gewees ,hy was nogals n legende en om hom ore aan te sit het nie gereeld gebeur nie…

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    5 May, 2023 at 16:35
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    #54 tzavosky

    @Grizzly: Ja, kyk, as jy ouskool is, dan moet ‘n vaskopstut in die eerste plek én in die laaste plek SKRUM. Hy is nie veronderstel om ooit aan die bal te raak nie, en so aan, ensomeer. As ek reg onthou, het Dok Craven gesê die heel eerste speler wat jy vir jou span kies is die vaskop, die tweede is jou reserwe-vaskop!

    Kitch Christie het Laubscher op 31-jarige ouderdom op sy plaas aan die Weskus gaan haal, onfiks en oorgewig, nadat hy die ander stutte in die land geraadpleeg het oor wie die sterkste vaskop is, en hom in shape gekry om vir sy span te speel met paragraaf 1 bo in gedagte.

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    5 May, 2023 at 16:14
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    #53 Kantman

    @OUD ANKER: Jammer ons het hom vroeg verloor

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    5 May, 2023 at 16:02
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    #52 OUD ANKER

    @Smallies: Vaskopstut wyle Jan Lock.

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    5 May, 2023 at 15:59
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    #51 Smallies

    @Grizzly: hy het n killer dummy gegooi daai dag🤣🤣🤣Ek het nogal van CJ vand Der Linde ook gelaaik

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    5 May, 2023 at 15:42
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    #50 Grizzly

    @tzavosky: @Smallies
    Miskien as suiwer skrumers maar Ridchard het baie meer na die tafel toe gebring.Was vinniger as die meeste vaste vyf,was soos n xtra los voor speler,vernietigende plettervater en as bal draer laat hy my dink aan n yster bal wat hop wat jy moet tackle…vra vir Carlos Spencer lol!

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    5 May, 2023 at 15:40
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    #49 tzavosky

    @Smallies: Os en Tommie Laubscher in 1994!

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    5 May, 2023 at 15:34
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    #48 Smallies

    @Grizzly: Os en Dougie Heymans,2de plek Beast ,Groot Frans

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    5 May, 2023 at 13:48
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    #47 Grizzly

    @Kantman: 🤣 Yes,agree.To me the best 1 and 3 was Os and Ridchard Bands.

    On another note,think Rassies picking of a full front row on the bench will be nullifeid at this years WC.He started with that in the 05 CC final..

    It worked well for him but the ops will be prepared this time around.Wonder if he have a joker up his sleeve this time.

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    5 May, 2023 at 09:59
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    #46 Kantman

    @Grizzly: Yes – and true props take time to develop. At Wildeklawer I saw some big units at prop! Would love to know the weight of the props that participated.
    To all the front row bloggers – when last did a prop get a MoM award at any level anywhere? That must be the greatest injustice in rugby …

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    5 May, 2023 at 09:46
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    #45 Smallies

    @Jakkals: @Kantman: @Grizzly: Ek dink dat Maritsparra en Garsfontein se scrums baie naby aam mekaar is …

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    5 May, 2023 at 09:03
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    #44 Jakkals

    @Kantman: Definitely!! The strongest scrummaging prop with less of an all round game loses out to a decent scrummager with good all round game.

    Then at Test level the Frans Malherbes of this world come into their own

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    5 May, 2023 at 08:43
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    #43 Grizzly

    @Kantman: Yes,and very much so.Mobility over strenght?

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    5 May, 2023 at 08:41
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    #42 Kantman

    @Grizzly: Very impressive scrum! I don’t disagree with the 1,5m scrum at school level, but I think it has an influence on how school coaches select props.

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    5 May, 2023 at 08:18
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    #41 Jakkals

    @Grizzly: Yes that was impressive. I also saw MC give GCB a good shove at NS earlier the year…

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    5 May, 2023 at 08:07
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    #40 Grizzly

    @Jakkals: For me Garsies with a country mile.Never seen Greys scrum go backwards like that.Wasn’t it for the 1.5m rule they would have milk penalties and a lot of could have,should have come in to play…let alone the other teams Garsies played against.

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    5 May, 2023 at 06:56
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    #39 Jakkals

    Anyone have an opinion on which school has the strongest scrum in SA this year? I have been impressed with Garsies, Maritzburg College and Jeppe. Can the the experts weigh in please….also some mentions of the strongest/best scrummaging LHs & THs would be interesting.

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    5 May, 2023 at 06:25
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    #38 Djou

    @Herakles: Spot on! But they do it to get the clicks. Not concerned about being close to correct or far out.

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    4 May, 2023 at 13:48
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    #37 Vleis

    @Herakles: I agree. Fortunately, it has zero impact on anything to do with rugby…BUT…it has a huge impact on some other sports – e.g. the top 12 schools on the girls hockey rankings are invited to the year-end Top 12 tournament held at Oranje Meisies.

    I seem to remember that BooishaaiPa provided SASP with his formula, but omitted one or two of the key ingredients, which may explain why their rankings go pear-shaped at times.

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    4 May, 2023 at 13:33
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    #36 Herakles

    @Djou: I follow the different schoolboy rugby rankings since 2012 and SA School Sports rank the first teams as if they obtain the results, and do their calculations, from a parallel universe.

    The only thing they usually get right is that Grey College is the number-one team in the country. However, you scarcely need to be a rugby expert to know that.

    I really peruse their rankings only for the comic relief it provides.

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    4 May, 2023 at 12:57
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    #35 Surgite

    Glad to see Parktown crack the top 50! Coming off some good form at the Grey PE festival but suspect this weekend against KES will be a very tough one to say the least. Here’s hoping they surprise me.

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    3 May, 2023 at 16:55
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    #34 Kantman

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    3 May, 2023 at 12:43
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    #33 Kantman

    ‘n Bietjie useless info vir hierdie stadium van die seisoen.
    Ek ruil #11 (Stellenberg) met #10 (DHS) vir die doel om spanne wat 5 of meer wedstryde teen mekaar gaan speel te vergelyk. Hierdie 10 spanne speel in totaal 30 uit ‘n moontlike 45 wedstryde teen mekaar.
    Grey en Gim speel teen 8/9 spanne (net Oakdale het meer met 9/10 – Monnas), en beide het nog 4 wedstryde oor.
    HJS, Monnas, PRG en Stellenberg speel teen 6/9 spanne. HJS het nog 5 wedstryde oor. PRG het 4 oor. Dit is ‘n faktor van die hoeveelheid Wes-Kaap spanne in die Top10. Monnas en Stellenberg het elk 2 oor.
    Die res speel almal 5 wedstryde. Affies en Garsfontein het 1 elk oor. Kwaggas het nog net Gim en Stellenberg. Boland moet nog die ander 3 Wynland spanne speel.

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    3 May, 2023 at 12:43
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    #32 Middies pa

    @Valkie: Goeie span gehad laas jaar maar, ek sien hulle sukkel bietjie hierdie jaar. Laas jaar se span het klomp matrieks gehad en 6 of 7 Puma spelers, as ek reg onthou. Moenie worry nie, Nelspruit sal weer terugkom.

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    3 May, 2023 at 09:56
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    #31 Smallies

    @JongMatie: nee wat is ma net n lekker gespreks punt…soos ek altyd se die skool wat die meeste games teen die beste skole wen is die nr 1 skool in die land

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    3 May, 2023 at 09:23
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    #30 JongMatie

    Maak die rankings werklik soveel saak, mens so sweer dit is die Evangelie wat hier verkondig word…..

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    3 May, 2023 at 09:00
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    #29 Smallies

    @Gimnasias: vir my persoonlik sal die Boishaai game ons seisoen bepaal ….n wen op Brugstraat is not negotiable…

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    3 May, 2023 at 08:42
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    #28 Grasshopper

    Glenwood have not played 11, the first win vs PMB Voortrekker 72-0, was just a friendly. So we might drop a few places. I think they are top 30 at best. 2024 will be top 50, maybe

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    3 May, 2023 at 08:27
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    #27 Djou

    @CharlesZA: Ek het gekyk – ja dankie, Kloof nog min wedstryde gespeel.

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    3 May, 2023 at 07:58
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    #26 Grizzly

    @Gimnasias: Iets soos dwaas basuin jou dwaasheid uit..grens aan dit.

    Jammer ons speel nie teen mekaar die jaar nie.Gim besig om spoed op te tel.Ek dink spanne naby aan mekaar.

    Die probleem is die Bere gaan nou net teen 1 top 10 span speel(Monnas) mbt tot ranking punte.Dan moet hulle nog wen!

    Soos met Boishaai met julle dieselfde met Monnas die kant.Hulle steur hulle eenvoudig nie aan uitslae van Garsies nie.

    So ek dink al het Garsfontein n steller seisoen verder sal julle mits julle aan hou wen,oor jul opposissie,bo hul eindig,which is fair.

    Die Bere se enigste hoop is op Boishaai in Aug….Ek sal nog steeds n top 5 vat.

    Dankie vir jou objektiewe comments oor die Bere.

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    2 May, 2023 at 23:04
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    #25 Gimnasias

    @Grizzly: ek sien nou eers daai rankings. Heel geskok. Klap in die gesig vir sekere skole. So maak ek nie my naam gat nie. Op wat se formule daai ouens werk weet ek nie maar duidelik weet hulle nie wat aangaan nie. Soos jy sê, hul rook iets sterks.

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    2 May, 2023 at 22:25
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    #24 Gimnasias

    @Smallies: nee man, hoe werk jou somme? Bloem het net 2 in Top 50. Grey tans 51ste.
    Moet sê, soos ek maar voorspel het is Grey die jaar net in n ander klas. Hulle het alles voorlangs en agter. Dis maar net een van daai fratsspanne wat mens nou en dan kry. Garsfontein is n ent agter hulle en dan moet so 4 skole uitspook vir nr.3. Ek het meer verwag van Kwaggas die seisoen maar lyk my hul gaan maar net gevaarlik wees in George. In wegwedstryde kan hulle geklop word.

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    2 May, 2023 at 22:12
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    #23 Grizzly

    @4×4: Was hy op skool,komaan,gee die ouens van SASP so bietjie meer krediet.🤣🤣

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    2 May, 2023 at 21:04
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    #22 Deon

    @Smallies: Dankie, nie geweet.

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    2 May, 2023 at 20:34
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    #21 Smallies

    @Deon: jy sal verbaas wees hoeveel van hulle stads seuns is

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    2 May, 2023 at 19:24
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    #20 CharlesZA

    @Djou: Dink span moet ten minste 6 games speel om gerank te word. Kloof sal seker binnekort hier verskyn.

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    2 May, 2023 at 19:22
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    #19 Deon

    @Smallies: Ja maar ek praat van die spanlede`.

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    2 May, 2023 at 18:53
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    #18 Djou

    @Kaya 85: Good one 😄😄😄😄

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    2 May, 2023 at 18:42
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    #17 4×4

    @Grizzly: op 12? Die man en Zuma was seker un selfde klas!!

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    2 May, 2023 at 18:06
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    #16 kantako

    Waar is Die Anker en Secunda ? Vra namens n vriend

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    2 May, 2023 at 18:04
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    #15 Kaya 85

    @apple: Good point actually… HJS PBH clocking up serious mileage playing all over – I wonder if their 1st team should think about doing ‘Online’ schooling.

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    2 May, 2023 at 18:02
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    #14 Smallies

    @Deon: die Stads seuns is actually baie meer as die koshuis 800 vs 400 min of meer, maar ja…

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    2 May, 2023 at 18:01
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    #13 Deon

    @Smallies: Home? Grey het nie ‘n huis nie, net ‘n koshuis. 12 jaar s’n.

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    2 May, 2023 at 17:48
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    #12 Djou

    @apple: As jy die vliegtuig vat is dit lekker. Nice ervaring vir die seuns.

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    2 May, 2023 at 17:48
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    #11 Deon

    @apple: Agreed, Paarl HJS, according to me, if I study results and all these factors, much stronger than PRG. People easily forget that, as well as the effect of altitude. Then again, I watched the Affies/PRG game last night, my first rugby game since the Boks played Wales in the 2015 RWC. I may not be the best judge.

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    2 May, 2023 at 17:41
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    #10 Smallies

    @apple: it’s the nature of the beast….Grey also has yet to play a game at home…

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    2 May, 2023 at 17:39
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    #9 apple

    Pasrl has played 11 matches, 5 more than 1300 kms away, 2 more than 800kms away, 2 more than 100kms away and only 2 at home. Saturday away again. So not only how many games in 5 weeks, but also where. Not reflected in rankings.

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    2 May, 2023 at 17:25
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    #8 Valkie

    Shame man die arme Nelspruit Hoërskool, eens trots op sy rugby, hoort eerder in die Skildafdeling.

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    2 May, 2023 at 16:26
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    #7 Smallies

    Drie skole van Bloem in die top 50 ,Jim Fouche en Fichies het regtig n groot step up gemaak ,nou moet Sentraal net weer die partytjie kom join….HTS Louis Botha is ongelukkig n lost cause vir nou volgens wat ek hoor

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    2 May, 2023 at 16:26
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    #6 JongMatie

    @Kaya 85: Kwaggas vs Gim later this year in George will be epic.

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    2 May, 2023 at 16:21
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    #5 Kaya 85

    4 Outeniqua
    5 Paul Roos
    7 HJS
    9 DHS
    10 Wynberg
    15+ Stellenberg
    16+ Noordheuwel

    Grey undisputed…
    Garsfontein and Paarl Gim must be very close, it’s a pity they don’t play each other this year (or do they?)
    Outeniqua definitely a top 5 team, I would rate them at 4 right now, although they could rise.
    With 6 losses Stellenberg’s position can’t be justified – as much as I like the Jade Brigade, can’t see them higher than a 15. Also, I feel Wynberg’s ranking is inaccurate at present face value.

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    2 May, 2023 at 16:10
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    #4 JongMatie

    Twee skole in Paarl Gim en Paarl Boishaai, wat in dieselfde kleinerige dorp is, bevind hulself weereens in die top 5.
    Dit bly n merkwaardige prestasie.

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    2 May, 2023 at 15:59
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    #3 Djou

    @Grizzly: SA School Sports rook iets wat verbode is – en ek sou dink dat hulle ook ietwat stupid is (jammer oor die kwetswoord).
    Nie net Garsies nie, klomp skole wat onverstaanbaar gerank word deur hulle.

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    2 May, 2023 at 14:54
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    #2 Grizzly

    @Djou: Ja ek het hulle ook gesoek.

    Sien SA school sports het die Bere op 12,wat rook daai ouens,ek soek ook daarvan.

    IMO akurate weerspieling.

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    2 May, 2023 at 14:35
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    #1 Djou

    Redelike uitkoms van wat gebeur het!
    Waar is Waterkloof – steeds onoorwonne die jaar. Seker per abuis uitgelaat.

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    2 May, 2023 at 13:22