Piecing together the WP u18 Youth Week teams 2019

The WPRU High Schools have officially notified each individual school of only the players selected from that school

 

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  1. Boishaai, Gim en Paul Roos is sterk.
    As kwotas nie die spanne regeer nie, behoort WP weer n sterk span te he. Deesdae is dit kort duskant n klugspul.

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  2. Ek gaan seker nou stick kry hier maar ek sal NIE vir Rodgers in die A span kies nie….hy beindruk my nie regtig nie,Rejnsburger is n baie beter opsie

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  3. @Smallies: Rodgers doen te min vir n stut. Jy kan nie net skrum nie. Ek wil jou in die vaste los ook sien baljaar.

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  4. I thought Robbie Rodgers makes a useful contribution as a ball-carrier and support play. Nucleus of the Paul Roos’ strength this year is their packs ability to make the hard yards at will.

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  5. @beet: I have to respectfully disagree with you ,Both Gim and Boishaai has better tight fives than PRG and in Siebert and Van wykk the 7 and 8 positions must also go to Boishaai and Gim…

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  6. @Smallies: Ek weet nie hoekom ons nog ons tyd en asem mors om oor Craven Week te praat nie.

    Maak n nuwe draad oop vir meer sinvolle gesprekke.

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  7. @Bergskilpad: You need to start by marketing that line to your own school because until they change their approach in relation to CW, it’s significance won’t diminish, even if the quality of the event has. CW still represents a goal many of the best SBR players aim to reach and when they do make the cut, their schools invariable market that success.

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  8. Interesting story about Evan Roode. He played Golden Lions CW as an u17 out of Jeppe last year. Moved down to the Cape in the offseason. His depart opens the door for Kalamer in the Jeppe 1st XV. Kalamer goes on to make Lions CW A team. Roode in the tough WP market finds himself left out altogether along with the Stellenberg locks – all 3 looked like decent players

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  9. @beet: That is why you would find Paul Roos, Paarl Gim and Boishaai regularly in the Top5 countrywide according to BoishaaiPa’s rankings.

    This is not Gauteng. This is not trophy rugby.

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  10. I am biased, but paarl 10 is to me an all round flyhalf in the joel stransky mould – hope they find a place for him in the final squad but whatever the final team, he will go far.

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  11. @sharpshooter: I think you misunderstood, Boland Landbou has one CW player, one WP XV player, 2 WP Academy players & 3 Grant Khomo players that need to be added. Bishops also have reps that need to be added

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  12. @Ploegskaar: O I understand now,I knew it couldn’t be true.Thanks!Big one tomorrow for the Boland boys.Gonna be a cracker of a game,both teams with great attack but think there might be a difference in defense between the two team.

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  13. 16 x Paarl Gim
    14 x Paarl BH
    8 x Paul Roos
    8 x Rondebosch
    3 x SACS
    2 x Stellenberg

    WP = 6 skole ? 8-O

    Was hierdie geslote proewe of net genommineerde spelers wat genooi was?

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  14. Help me if I’m wrong,but Compion has been flawless with the lineouts this season and is one of the reasons behind Gim’s success at set piece.He is also a great runner and fetcher.Honestly think he deserves a spot in first side.

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  15. @Murrayfield: I agree!!!The fact that Montpellier has signed him already speaks for itself.I bet if PRG performed well and won the previous 2 games,people would have had totally different opinion of him.

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  16. It is very noticeable that the Premier B, and lower ranked schools, are facing an uphill battle to make the WP sides. Only two players (one from Stellenberg and one from Milnerton) in the Craven side. Then a further two from Milnerton ( who is a coach of one of the sides), one from Bellville and one more from Stellenberg, in the XV and Academy teams. This gives you a grand total of six players, from a hell of a lot of schools, in the three teams.

    With that, I do not want to criticize the selectors, but I still do wonder if they have seen all the available talent. We all know that the vast majority talented boys go to the big rugby schools. But one also get a number of late bloomers, that did not perform so well at junior level, and gradually developed.

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  17. Stellenberg 15 is very very exciting
    . Cant wait for the rondebosch hooker to get some game time.. two of the most exciting players :lol:

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  18. @Kattes-Strofes: I don’t want to sound boring, but WP really should be split into CT and Winelands. CT should have one team in CW and the Winelands two. To be honest, the CT CW and AW teams would be very strong as they’d combine the best of the Premier B teams and the SS teams. I’d be very interested to see how they’d compete!

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  19. @Kattes-Strofes: It all depends what the goals of the selectors are. Do they have a plan in place that enables them to see the players enough to give them at least an even chance with players from the so-called elite schools? If not, they are not serving the boys of the province.Beet referred to it and I totally agree with him. No selector may vote-push for players from his school. If players cannot make it on their own, they should not be there.

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  20. @Han: makes sense, however too many players put under the spotlight from GrantKomo not coming through, after much investment from unions eg.

    Every age group in the youth teams carry a large number, unfortunately, for whatever reason, a collateral loss of players, because of either selection or lack of skill and late blooming factor.

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  21. @Vleis: I know its an old topic but I can’t agree with you more.The Winelands’ schools’ players will always have the inside lane because of the traditional strenght of the schools they play for – players simply look and perform better in a strong, winning team.

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  22. with the new contract situation at unions, does wp still give preference to those that are staying in the province? and if so, is it better to go to montpellier than the sharks?

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  23. @beet: re roode, looking at today’s match in isolation, he can feel hard done by. but it does raises the question whether you would rather play craven week for a week with the poc selections or for one of the top 5 teams in sa with their rugby programs, playing at places like bishops and against teams such as affies, grey etc. suppose he will be the only person that can answer that.

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  24. I think WP can enter 5 teams and they will probably all end up in the top 5 most of the time.

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  25. @Skopgraaf243: Is there a player you can think of fro WGim that should be there?

    Anyway different dynamics… Assuming the comparison is between Bulls and WP. WP doesn’t have a PDI dilemma as the top schools have a fair amount of representation. So no need looking at 20 different schools to make up numbers, as is the case with the Bulls. Border for example could have picked the Selborne side and reserves and met these ridiculous requirements. 1 school could have done it for them.

    That said, this is not a good thing necessarily as they may be a boy from Worcester Gim who didn’t even get a look in, but is probably better than the player picked ahead of him.

    P.S. What happened to South downs?

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  26. Most younger private schools in pretoria for some reason struggle to get there rugby standard up( maybe they dont see the need)??

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  27. @Playa: Worcester Gim falls under Boland.. But there are plenty other schools in WP that dont get a look in at trials.. But I guess that is how the cookie crumbles.. If you want to excell at a sport you need to be where the best competition and coaches are. It is true that most of the WP premier and 2nd tier schools have enough good pdi players so that selectors dont need to go scratch around in 3rd tier and lower teams do find players. However, it does still happen and more that likely these players often struggle at the prov weeks as they are not used to the pace and tempo these games are played at. Once in a blue moon they do spot an unpolished diamant, but it is more the exception that the rule.

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  28. Really sad to find out that Robbie Rodgers has been ruled out for the rest of the season with a shoulder injury. Big loss for Paul Roos, as if things weren’t bad enough for the Maroons will all their other good players out injured.

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  29. @Kattes-Strofes: I’ve always thought it would be a good idea for the KZN CD region to hold trials earlier and send their CD team to the Durban-Midlands area to play against the big schools. The idea was to give their players better exposure in the hopes of changing opinions and improving their chances of CW selection.

    What if the WP Prem B tried something along similar lines in their region?

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  30. @BoishaaiPa: Thanks for that clarity. I wasn’t sure whether they were WP or Boland.

    Yeah, the pace and intensity of CW for a 2nd or 3rd tier player is an issue. Hence I feel like the provinces with less depth should play academy week. Then have the SA academy side play the SA CW team as a trial for SA Schools. Just a thought, I don’t think it’s a wide solution.

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  31. @Playa: You are not alone, The Boland WP CW demarcation falls into the Bermuda Triangle category of unknowns…

    Interesting thing to note is the WP /13 CW includes boy from 15 different schools.

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  32. @beet: Injuries is part and parcel of the game. Boishaai have played numerous interschool games without plenty of key individuals. All the traditional rugby schools in SA should have enough depth to accommodate these bumps.

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  33. @beet: I can almost guarantee you if WP selects a WP CD team comprising of Gim, Landbou, Paarl Boys and Paul Roos, they will almost always make the CW final and also win about 70% of them. IMO.

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  34. @Bergskilpad: Agree,unless that team in the final is FS and comprise soly out of Grey…You see that post should have come from a blogger not associated with one of the schools….is it so difficult to understand?

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  35. @Grizzly: het jy nou n grey fiksasie?

    die ou dae v grey dominansie vir jare is verby-hulle mag hier en daar n paar jaar wen maar wp oorheers al vir jare die cweek met meestal spelers uit die wynland skole

    miskien weer dink om n groter jean kortbroekie te koop-die enetjie beinvloed die bloedvloei lyk dit my 8-O

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  36. Ek het gewag vir daardie een, een wedstryd in 54 jaar..
    Nee meneer, probeer weer…

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  37. @Bergskilpad: Gee so bietjie jou Wynland span, sluit 0/19’s in en vergeet van kwotas. Totale meriete 0/19 span vir 2019 vir die 4 Wynland skole.

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  38. @Rainier: It’s an unknown unknown :lol:

    The make up of that u13 side is one interesting phenomenon. Let’s watch where those boys land up in grade 8.It will tell how the consolidation of powerful schools unfolds when it comes to senior sbr in the Cape. Similar case in KZN I suspect. Many good primary schools, but a few good rugby playing high schools on offer.

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  39. @Smallies: Hulle gaan wragtig Probeer a case maak dat die wynlandskole beter rugby skole as Grey is.Ek we’d Grey het Meer bokke op gelewer as Al die wynlandskole saam…of in een posisie as Al die BH bokke saam.Ek wed jou nou iemand van die wynland gaan dit Google :lol:

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  40. @Grizzly: ai -jy nie die skerpste potlood nie

    wat ons met aansienlike moeite aan julle 2 Nasa kandidate probeer verduidelik is dat gesamentlik die 4 wynland skole miskien vir grey kan wen :twisted: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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  41. @Smallies: ja wat hjs het dit 3 jaar in n ry gedoen-niemand is vandag meer onoorwinlik nie-in die top 10 kan enige span enige span klop

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  42. @Jan Kriel: my span-en ek he nog nie boland eintlik sien speel nie

    15 wolhuter prg vleu els farmer osche gertse senters bock/horn/bessede senter v prg 10 meadon 9 gim 9

    8 v wyk hjs 7 sieberts 6 gim flank 5 de leeuw 4 v–k weet 3 gim 2 gim 1 rogers/van rheinburger

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  43. 1 Rodgers
    2 Compion
    3 Rijnsburger
    4 Roode
    5 van Rhyn
    6 Siebert
    7 Wilson
    8 van Wyk
    9 Alexander
    10 Meadon
    11 Pretorius
    12 Bocks
    13 vd Westhuizen
    14 Jacobs
    15 Wolhuter

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  44. @Bergskilpad: dit is mos nou nie vrystaat se skuld nie,in teendeel wys dit hoe min diepte vrystaat het, Vrystaat is seker die een provinsie wat die meeste benadeel word deur saru se kwotas ,HTS Louis Botha is net eenvoudig nie meer op standaard nie maar sut met ses sewe CW spelers ,spelers wat waarskynlik sal sukkel om Grey kollege se derde span te maak,ek dink nie dat julle manne in die kaap altyd besef hoe geseënd julle is met die hoeveelheid kwaliteit skole en spelers daar is nie….

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  45. @Smallies: ‘Hulle’ tel as kwotas as n nasionale span gekies word. Geen belediging nie, strawwe kompetisie.

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  46. @Bergskilpad: ek sien dit anders kwota spelers is spelers wat NIE aan die standaard voldoen nie maar gekies word om n poetieke agenda te dryf ,spelers soos Bocks Jacobs Alexander en Farmer is van die bestes in hulle posisies in die land beslis nie kwotas nie….N speler soos Manny Ras was nog nooit n kwota speler nie si ook nie Appolis nie Conan nit te donner n kwota nie….

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  47. SO bietjie stats oor Cravenweek ‘finale’ die afgelope 25 jaar:

    – Meeste finals: WP 14; Cheetahs 9; Lions 7; OP 5; Bulle 5, SWD, Natal en Boland elk 2.
    – Meeste wenne: WP 8, Cheetahs 5, Bulle 4, Lions en SWD elk 2.
    – WP vs Cheetahs head to head in finals: 3-2 vir WP.

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  48. @Koning: Die feit dat die meerderheid spelers in die opdrafspan in die finaal gewoonlik heeljaar saamspeel, maar n helse verskil…

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  49. @beet: Hi beet, I have created a power Pivot model which shows all the schools per team and the amount of players from each school that got selected, I would like to send you the image so you can post it in a blog?

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