By being selected for SA Schools rugby in July 2017, Grey College and Free State all-rounder Christopher Schreuder became just the 14th SA Schools cricket and SA Schools rugby double achiever in South African history. Schreuder attends the most well represented school on the list and as a flyhalf he plays in by far the most popular rugby position for past achievers of this unique double.
# | Year | Name | School | Rugby Region | Rugby Position |
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1 | 1974 | Malcolm Thompson | Maritzburg College | KZN | Loose Forward |
2 | 1974 | Lee Barnard | KES | Gauteng | Flyhalf |
3 | 1979 | Chris Smit | Grey College | Free State | Flyhalf |
4 | 1981 | Gerbrandt Grobler | Grey College | Free State | Fullback |
5 | 1982 | Helgard Muller | Grey College | Free State | Centre |
6 | 1985 | Frans Cronje | Grey College | Free State | Hooker |
7 | 1987 | Errol Stewart | Westville | KZN | Centre |
8 | 1987 | Udo Goedeke | Maritzburg College | KZN | Flyhalf |
9 | 1991 | Greg Miller | Grey HS | Eastern Cape | Flyhalf |
10 | 1992 | Herschelle Gibbs | Bishops | Western Cape | Flyhalf |
11 | 1996 | Conrad Jantjes | CBC Boksburg | Gauteng | Wing/Fullback |
12 | 2002 | Adrian Penzhorn | Maritzburg College | KZN | Centre |
13 | 2016 | Ruan de Swardt | Affies | Gauteng | Flyhalf |
14 | 2017 | Christopher Schreuder | Grey College | Free State | Flyhalf |
@Playa: Ahhh, that makes perfect sense.
@Rainier: Hopper’s Theory of Relative Rambling…if Team 1 beats Team 2 and Team 3 beats Teams 1 therefore (without having to play each other) Team 3 is better than Team 2. According to HTORR, Hudson Park would beat Grey College, since they beat Selborne this past weekend
@Rainier: Hangklip het vir Aliwal-noord pak gegee die naweek
@Playa: Stellios and Kelvin Beetge played in that ’86 Dale team?
Wth is HTORR?
@Knight_CHS07: @Rainier: It seems HTORR failed miserably in 1986. Dale beat Grens, and yet lost both games against Queens. Interestingly there was a double fixture against Cambridge that year – we lost both.
@Rainier: According to records, Cambridge only lost to Graeme College in 1986. I was taught by Gavin Bishop during my high school years at Cambridge.
I stand corrected, but I think Cambridge is the only border co-ed school to have beaten the big 3 colleges in one season. THe last time we achieved that was in 1989
Another player that had the talent to play SAS in both rugby and cricket was Morgan Morris that went to Grey PE. He was super talented.
@Playa, that 1986 Grens team beat Queens at /13 level as well.
Hangklip also had a good team in 1986 with Dirkie and Tertius Schoeman.
@Playa: Ja, the first match Grens lost that year was to Dale. The Grens 2nds beat Queens and Dale, the first time ever in a season that happened.
Cambridge had a great team with Paul Armstrong, Tyronn Power and Gavin Bishop. Winterberg had Puk Coleske and I think Johan Greeff, the tmo played that year.
@QC86: They beat GCB and according to HTORR that makes them the best team in the EC and puts them ahead of GCB on the SBR Log?????
@McCulleys Workshop: As far as i can remember he was never selected due to the fact that everybody was informed that he would not be available,in fact i don’t think he even played for Border schools that year.I will ask him and get back to you.
@QC86: Howzit, I had a cousin at Queens jnr but he went to SAC for high school. Played 84 1st team prop.
Re the question above, did Cullinan make SAS rugby in 84 but turn it down due to a SAS cricket tour?
and we lost to Cambridge and Winterberg ,we were really kak but not as kak as Selborne this year
@Rainier: I think he drinks himself to sleep every time he’s reminded of that loss
@Playa: Aahhh, lost to Grens in 1986.
@Rainier: ’84 to ’86 captain – no under 16s back then
@QC2000: @Rainier: Louis Vorster se pa,oom Boet,vertel my dat die span op verskillende vlugte Engeland toe moes vlieg.Die toer was natuurlik nie amptelik.Op daai toer het Daryll en Louis die Engelse simpel gebat.Beide van hulle het verskeie offers gekry om daar te gaan speel.Louis is deur Clive Rice gelok omdat Greame uit getree het Transvaal toe.Die 2 het verskeie rekord venootskappe gedeel op daai toer,die Engelse het vir beide byname gegee maar dit het my ontgaan.
@Playa: How many years did QC86 play firsts?
I know Gary Loest was in that side, he was a great player and person.
@Rainier: die ander ding van helgaard is dat hy vinniger as meeste vleuels ook was, so as hy gebreek het was h6 weg
@QC2000: The amazing thing for me with regards to Cullinan is that he only returned to rugby in ’84 after 2 years of not having played as he focused on cricket.
@Rainier: QC86 will tell you he made him look good that day
@Rainier: Great minds
@McCulleys Workshop: Lambie played Craven and Nuffield Weeks in 2007 and 2008, captaining both sides in 2008. He played SA schools rugby in both years but didn’t make the SA Schools cricket side in either.
@QC2000: Is it great minds or fools?
Helgard Muller was a rugby genius, almost like a savant. Look at how well his outside centers did.
Who played flyhalf for SAS in 1984? Daryll Cullinan was a brilliant flyhalf and played an enormous part in the Queens team that beat GCB in Bfn.
Somebody with better knowledge must please correct me if I’m wrong but was Daryl Cullinan not selected for the SA Schools rugby side in 1984 as well as the cricket side but opted out because SA Schools had a cricket tour to England. He was of course also a flyhalf, and a mighty fine one at that
@McCulleys Workshop: Played with him at PMB varsity and recall him playing for Duikers but don’t think he played a game for Natal.His brother Frank went and got a few caps for Germany.
Beet, did Lambie play SAS cricket? He captained KZN Schools cricket and rugby in 2008.
@star: Howzit Star, did Udo play provincial rugby or cricket after school? If I remember correctly he played club rugby and I think for the duikers. Interesting to see that most of them kicked on to play either for SA or at least had provincial careers.
@Tang: he tore sided to pieces at cc level also
@Tang: I think that Errol Stewart was the only player to win a Currie Cup for both rugby and cricket and therefore should surely be included alongside Barnard and Grobler.
@beet 7 of the 14 played flyhalf. The two best in my humble opinion were Gibbs and Barnard. I still rate Gibbs as the best school boy rugby player I have ever watched.
Barnard and Grobler are the only two who played both sports successfully after school.
Helgard Muller was also sensational as a school boy. He tore sides to pieces.
@Snoek: Think you will find that Errol Stewart also concentrated on cricket in the end going on to play for SA as keeper.However in the amateur days the guys often played both.Gerbrandt Grobler played a number of seasons of cricket for Northern Transvaal.Frans Cronje I think you can say concentrated more on cricket than rugby.
Can Beet do some research on how many SA Wrestling Champs made the SA Schools rugby team in history.I believe James Dulton, Heinrich Brussow , Schalk Brits etc were all amature wrestlers but Im not sure if they were SA champs or SA Scools rugby players. Should be interesting as these two sports compliment each other so well. Maybe a guy like Stier could also help us out.
@Smallies: WP?
@Snoek: Conrad Jantjes played SA Schools rugby and cricket….and wait for it….played in the SA under 17 soccer team.
@chief: hopelik vir vrystaat
@Hooit:
100% seker hy gaan rugby speel volgende jaar.
@Snoek: Ruan het ook op krieket besluit.
Does anyone know which sport he prefers?
Frans Cronje was a hooker, not a flyhalf. Not sure if Conrad Jantjes played SA Schools cricket ?
Interesting, looks like rugby the most popular choice after school, only Herschel & Lee Barnard decided on cricket ?
Correct me if I am wrong please – Three of the 12 boys up to 2002 achieved national colours by becoming either a Springbok (Helgard Muller, Conrad Jantjes) or Proteas (Gibbs). I think Lee Barnard was chosen to represent SA against a rebels team, but I am not sure where full colours were awarded. If so, then the three becomes 4.
And 10 of the 12 became provincial rugby players or cricketers, while 6 played both provincial rugby and cricket.
Not a bad pass through rate.
De Swardt and Schreuder is too young to be judged, but De Swardt has all the credentials to become a Protea!