Schreuder joins the exclusive double SA Schools club

By being selected for SA Schools rugby in July 2017, Grey College and Free State all-rounder Christopher Schreuder became just the 14th SA Schools cricket and SA Schools rugby double achiever in South African history. Schreuder attends the most well represented school on the list and as a flyhalf he plays in by far the most popular rugby position for past achievers of this unique double.

# Year Name School Rugby Region Rugby Position
1 1974 Malcolm Thompson Maritzburg College KZN Loose Forward
2 1974 Lee Barnard KES Gauteng Flyhalf
3 1979 Chris Smit Grey College Free State Flyhalf
4 1981 Gerbrandt Grobler Grey College Free State Fullback
5 1982 Helgard Muller Grey College Free State Centre
6 1985 Frans Cronje Grey College Free State Hooker
7 1987 Errol Stewart Westville KZN Centre
8 1987 Udo Goedeke Maritzburg College KZN Flyhalf
9 1991 Greg Miller Grey HS Eastern Cape Flyhalf
10 1992 Herschelle Gibbs Bishops Western Cape Flyhalf
11 1996 Conrad Jantjes CBC Boksburg Gauteng Wing/Fullback
12 2002 Adrian Penzhorn Maritzburg College KZN Centre
13 2016 Ruan de Swardt Affies Gauteng Flyhalf
14 2017 Christopher Schreuder Grey College Free State Flyhalf

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40 Comments

  1. avatar
    #40 Rainier

    @Playa: Ahhh, that makes perfect sense.

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    2 August, 2017 at 13:29
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    #39 Playa

    @Rainier: Hopper’s Theory of Relative Rambling…if Team 1 beats Team 2 and Team 3 beats Teams 1 therefore (without having to play each other) Team 3 is better than Team 2. According to HTORR, Hudson Park would beat Grey College, since they beat Selborne this past weekend :mrgreen:

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    2 August, 2017 at 13:08
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    #38 Smallies

    @Rainier: Hangklip het vir Aliwal-noord pak gegee die naweek

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    2 August, 2017 at 10:23
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    #37 Rainier

    @Playa: Stellios and Kelvin Beetge played in that ’86 Dale team?

    Wth is HTORR?

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    2 August, 2017 at 10:13
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    #36 Playa

    @Knight_CHS07: @Rainier: It seems HTORR failed miserably in 1986. Dale beat Grens, and yet lost both games against Queens. Interestingly there was a double fixture against Cambridge that year – we lost both.

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    2 August, 2017 at 08:24
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    #35 Knight_CHS07

    @Rainier: According to records, Cambridge only lost to Graeme College in 1986. I was taught by Gavin Bishop during my high school years at Cambridge.

    I stand corrected, but I think Cambridge is the only border co-ed school to have beaten the big 3 colleges in one season. THe last time we achieved that was in 1989 :(

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    1 August, 2017 at 22:29
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    #34 Rainier

    Another player that had the talent to play SAS in both rugby and cricket was Morgan Morris that went to Grey PE. He was super talented.

    @Playa, that 1986 Grens team beat Queens at /13 level as well.

    Hangklip also had a good team in 1986 with Dirkie and Tertius Schoeman.

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    1 August, 2017 at 21:22
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    #33 Rainier

    @Playa: Ja, the first match Grens lost that year was to Dale. The Grens 2nds beat Queens and Dale, the first time ever in a season that happened.

    Cambridge had a great team with Paul Armstrong, Tyronn Power and Gavin Bishop. Winterberg had Puk Coleske and I think Johan Greeff, the tmo played that year.

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    1 August, 2017 at 21:19
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    #32 Bush

    @QC86: They beat GCB and according to HTORR that makes them the best team in the EC and puts them ahead of GCB on the SBR Log?????

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    1 August, 2017 at 18:26
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    #31 QC86

    @McCulleys Workshop: As far as i can remember he was never selected due to the fact that everybody was informed that he would not be available,in fact i don’t think he even played for Border schools that year.I will ask him and get back to you.

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    1 August, 2017 at 16:47
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    #30 McCulleys Workshop

    @QC86: Howzit, I had a cousin at Queens jnr but he went to SAC for high school. Played 84 1st team prop.
    Re the question above, did Cullinan make SAS rugby in 84 but turn it down due to a SAS cricket tour?

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    1 August, 2017 at 16:32
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    #29 QC86

    and we lost to Cambridge and Winterberg ,we were really kak :oops: :oops: but not as kak as Selborne this year 8)) 8))

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    1 August, 2017 at 16:23
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    #28 Playa

    @Rainier: I think he drinks himself to sleep every time he’s reminded of that loss :lol:

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    1 August, 2017 at 15:58
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    #27 Rainier

    @Playa: Aahhh, lost to Grens in 1986.

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    1 August, 2017 at 15:56
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    #26 Playa

    @Rainier: ’84 to ’86 captain – no under 16s back then

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    1 August, 2017 at 13:49
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    #25 Grizzly

    @QC2000: @Rainier: Louis Vorster se pa,oom Boet,vertel my dat die span op verskillende vlugte Engeland toe moes vlieg.Die toer was natuurlik nie amptelik.Op daai toer het Daryll en Louis die Engelse simpel gebat.Beide van hulle het verskeie offers gekry om daar te gaan speel.Louis is deur Clive Rice gelok omdat Greame uit getree het Transvaal toe.Die 2 het verskeie rekord venootskappe gedeel op daai toer,die Engelse het vir beide byname gegee maar dit het my ontgaan.

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    1 August, 2017 at 12:44
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    #24 Rainier

    @Playa: How many years did QC86 play firsts? 8-O

    I know Gary Loest was in that side, he was a great player and person.

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    1 August, 2017 at 12:03
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    #23 Smallies

    @Rainier: die ander ding van helgaard is dat hy vinniger as meeste vleuels ook was, so as hy gebreek het was h6 weg

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    1 August, 2017 at 12:03
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    #22 Playa

    @QC2000: The amazing thing for me with regards to Cullinan is that he only returned to rugby in ’84 after 2 years of not having played as he focused on cricket.

    @Rainier: QC86 will tell you he made him look good that day :mrgreen:

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    1 August, 2017 at 11:24
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    #21 QC2000

    @Rainier: Great minds

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    1 August, 2017 at 10:31
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    #20 meadows

    @McCulleys Workshop: Lambie played Craven and Nuffield Weeks in 2007 and 2008, captaining both sides in 2008. He played SA schools rugby in both years but didn’t make the SA Schools cricket side in either.

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    1 August, 2017 at 10:28
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    #19 Rainier

    @QC2000: Is it great minds or fools?

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    1 August, 2017 at 08:31
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    #18 Rainier

    Helgard Muller was a rugby genius, almost like a savant. Look at how well his outside centers did.

    Who played flyhalf for SAS in 1984? Daryll Cullinan was a brilliant flyhalf and played an enormous part in the Queens team that beat GCB in Bfn.

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    1 August, 2017 at 08:30
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    #17 QC2000

    Somebody with better knowledge must please correct me if I’m wrong but was Daryl Cullinan not selected for the SA Schools rugby side in 1984 as well as the cricket side but opted out because SA Schools had a cricket tour to England. He was of course also a flyhalf, and a mighty fine one at that

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    1 August, 2017 at 08:27
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    #16 Veg

    @McCulleys Workshop: Played with him at PMB varsity and recall him playing for Duikers but don’t think he played a game for Natal.His brother Frank went and got a few caps for Germany.

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    31 July, 2017 at 17:43
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    #15 McCulleys Workshop

    Beet, did Lambie play SAS cricket? He captained KZN Schools cricket and rugby in 2008.

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    31 July, 2017 at 16:30
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    #14 McCulleys Workshop

    @star: Howzit Star, did Udo play provincial rugby or cricket after school? If I remember correctly he played club rugby and I think for the duikers. Interesting to see that most of them kicked on to play either for SA or at least had provincial careers.

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    31 July, 2017 at 16:13
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    #13 Smallies

    @Tang: he tore sided to pieces at cc level also

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    31 July, 2017 at 11:08
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    #12 star

    @Tang: I think that Errol Stewart was the only player to win a Currie Cup for both rugby and cricket and therefore should surely be included alongside Barnard and Grobler. :lol:

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    31 July, 2017 at 09:12
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    #11 Tang

    @beet 7 of the 14 played flyhalf. The two best in my humble opinion were Gibbs and Barnard. I still rate Gibbs as the best school boy rugby player I have ever watched.
    Barnard and Grobler are the only two who played both sports successfully after school.
    Helgard Muller was also sensational as a school boy. He tore sides to pieces.

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    31 July, 2017 at 08:45
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    #10 Veg

    @Snoek: Think you will find that Errol Stewart also concentrated on cricket in the end going on to play for SA as keeper.However in the amateur days the guys often played both.Gerbrandt Grobler played a number of seasons of cricket for Northern Transvaal.Frans Cronje I think you can say concentrated more on cricket than rugby.

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    30 July, 2017 at 10:49
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    #9 HJS Pa

    Can Beet do some research on how many SA Wrestling Champs made the SA Schools rugby team in history.I believe James Dulton, Heinrich Brussow , Schalk Brits etc were all amature wrestlers but Im not sure if they were SA champs or SA Scools rugby players. Should be interesting as these two sports compliment each other so well. Maybe a guy like Stier could also help us out.

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    30 July, 2017 at 10:16
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    #8 Hooit

    @Smallies: WP?

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    29 July, 2017 at 23:37
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    #7 Playa

    @Snoek: Conrad Jantjes played SA Schools rugby and cricket….and wait for it….played in the SA under 17 soccer team.

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    29 July, 2017 at 20:25
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    #6 Smallies

    @chief: hopelik vir vrystaat

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    29 July, 2017 at 16:48
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    #5 chief

    @Hooit:

    100% seker hy gaan rugby speel volgende jaar.

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    29 July, 2017 at 16:07
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    #4 Grizzly

    @Snoek: Ruan het ook op krieket besluit.

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    29 July, 2017 at 10:06
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    #3 Hooit

    Does anyone know which sport he prefers?

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    29 July, 2017 at 09:24
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    #2 Snoek

    Frans Cronje was a hooker, not a flyhalf. Not sure if Conrad Jantjes played SA Schools cricket ?
    Interesting, looks like rugby the most popular choice after school, only Herschel & Lee Barnard decided on cricket ?

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    29 July, 2017 at 08:59
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    #1 Djou

    Correct me if I am wrong please – Three of the 12 boys up to 2002 achieved national colours by becoming either a Springbok (Helgard Muller, Conrad Jantjes) or Proteas (Gibbs). I think Lee Barnard was chosen to represent SA against a rebels team, but I am not sure where full colours were awarded. If so, then the three becomes 4.
    And 10 of the 12 became provincial rugby players or cricketers, while 6 played both provincial rugby and cricket.
    Not a bad pass through rate.
    De Swardt and Schreuder is too young to be judged, but De Swardt has all the credentials to become a Protea!

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    29 July, 2017 at 07:27