Cape Schools Week 2017

DATE SCHOOL SCHOOL INFO INFO
Sat.01Jul Wynberg 22 24 Queen’s Cape Schools Week
Sat.01Jul Boland Landbou 17 18 Grey HS Cape Schools Week
Sat.01Jul Stellenberg 40 10 Muir Cape Schools Week
Sat.01Jul SACS 17 13 Selborne Cape Schools Week
Sat.01Jul Rondebosch 27 27 Dale Cape Schools Week
Mon.03Jul Boland Landbou 47 00 Muir Cape Schools Week
Mon.03Jul SACS 20 18 Grey HS Cape Schools Week
Mon.03Jul Rondebosch 19 22 Queen’s Cape Schools Week
Mon.03Jul Stellenberg 22 07 Dale Cape Schools Week
Mon.03Jul Wynberg 20 19 Selborne Cape Schools Week

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  1. Anybody know why Paarl Gim excused themselves from this tournament next year… is it simply because of the unavailability of CW players.

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  2. @HE: I don’t know what the ‘official’ reason is but I suspect it is a mixture of this (unavailability of CW players) and also preparing for the big one in the third term (by rather having a proper rest and a constructive camp in the holiday and not playing a mixed team, putting players at risk of injury). Despite this making sense to me, it saddens me to think the boys in the geel, groen, maroen won’t be partaking in a very exciting tournament.

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  3. Couple of great matches lined up..Boland vs Grey High, RBosch vs Dale, Sacs vs Selborne, Sacs vs Grey High, Rbosch vs Queens and Stellenberg vs Dale will be my favorite choices!

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  4. @HE: As far as I know Paarl Gym asked at the end of the last CSW to miss this one but said they would be at the 2019 one which far as I know will take place at Muir in Uitenhage.

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  5. @Playa: just a pity Stellenberg will be without 6 provincial players and SACS, Boland and Rondebosch without 3 players each.

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  6. It think it is very unfair to hold this festival.

    When Gauteng schools plan their Easter Festivals and Noord-Suid they try and include schools from across the country, even average schools from the Paarl region.

    This is elitism at its worst.

    And why is it called a week, its 2 days ffs!

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  7. @Rainier: Eish! Hard questions. Previously had 3 days of play (Saturday, Monday and Wednesday). This is the first time in the “week’s” 37 year old history that there are only 2 days of play – a request due to Craven Week Commitments. The week is the old “Cape Province” affair, with rugby (and cross-country) being played every 2 years, while the cricket week occurs annually.The idea really was just to give the Western and Eastern schools a chance at having a bash at each other – it’s somewhat been watered down by Craven Week commitments as you will see from @BuffelsCM: post. Still a great spectacle IMO – very very far from being elitist

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  8. @Rainier: You right but if you go back in history when it started, it was played over a longer period with more games. Those years top 5 EC schools vs top 5 WC schools. Over the years it did change with schools exiting. I think the EC schools are all still the same schools since the tournament started.

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  9. Will the Eastern Cape schools also be missing their crawen week players?

    For the record, I’m a massive fan of this week and look forward to it in the calendar.

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  10. @Stier:
    @BoishaaiPa: Apologies for highjacking this thread. Boishaai guys I heard that Boishaai is busy arranging a 150year celebration Easter Tournament for next year with top local and international schools?

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  11. @CharlesZA: You can always pull a “glenwood” and borrow some players for the week from the neighborhood..they are just home for school holidays from Paarl.. :mrgreen:

    @Hooit: Unless it is not relevant to this topic I cant comment!

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  12. @CharlesZA: E-mail me the team sheets

    mt.ubumbo@gmail.com

    Happy to help out on Saturday morning – with the Queens and Muir games. I’ll then pop in again for the Dale game (but I’ll need to be disciplined leading up to that game)
    Monday I can do the Dale vs Stellenberg game with you again.

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  13. Imozulu ingathi izoba ntle, masithembe izo hlala inje kude ku bethe intsimbi yesihlanu.

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  14. @HE: Daai manne van julle het mooi gejol. Ek dink julle het regtig ‘n goeie span en Kattes is reg julle verdien ‘n plek in die A liga. Kom ons hoop iets gebeur gou in die verband.

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  15. To be honest, today wasn’t a great advert for Western Province refs society.

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  16. @Stier: Nie die sterkste opponente nie, maar is bly dat die span met n klomp nuwe spelers nog steeds gewys het waartoe hul instaat is. Maandag is egter n groot berg wat voorle. Ten minste het vandag se game gewys dat selfs sonder hul CW spelers, daar wel diepte by Stellenberg is.

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  17. @HE: Ja Maandag gaan groot wees. Hoeveel van vandag se span gaan nog volgende jaar daar by julle wees?

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  18. @Stier: 4 in starting lineup en 4 op die bench. Ook een van CW spelers wat weer volgende jaar kan speel.

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  19. @CharlesZA: Klink goed, so volgende jaar gaan julle weer ‘n goeie span he. Ek begin al hoe meer Kattes se punt sien. Daai seuns van julle klop hard aan die deur.

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  20. An interesting set of results. Stellenberg are a strong outfit, i take my hat off to Muir for not giving up…I see Queens still have some fight in them.

    I must say Grey did well to get one over the farmers. I can almost imagine the physicality in that game.

    Dale still going strong. That winning mentality they have is working wonders for them.

    Hard luck to the boys from East London. Knowing them, they gave it their all. SACS was never going to be easy.

    @Umtata: why is that sir?

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  21. @Umtata: :lol: ha a ibingendim lowo

    The day definitely could have done with better refereeing standards.Let’s hope that those who has below par showings will reflect on their performances and do better on Monday.

    Well done to all the teams. There were some really good games.Most impressive is the sportsmanship shown by the boys.

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  22. @Stier: Sal moet sien hoe die graad 11 manne en die o16 groep ontwikkel tot volgende jaar.

    Trots op die manne na gister se wen, om met 3de keuse 9 en 10 wat hele seisoen 13 gespeel het so maklik die bal vesprei het was baie goed. Sien uit na more se game teen n sterk Dale spa . Sal vir hul 10 en 13 moet dophou. Daai manne is lekker gevaarlik.

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  23. @Playa: Sorry I didnt get to chat for longer, you there tomorrow?

    Havent watched all the games yet but the ref in the Stellenberg Muir game was really good.

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  24. Apologies for flooding the blog now…but!…Reading all these posts over the last couple of months I came to realize that passion is maybe not such a great thing!. We are all here on this blog because we have one thing in common. We all love SBR, Beet created this forum for likeminded people to converse and talk about SBR. Some way along the line it has become much the same as the old Rugby365 blog ending up in people not respecting another point of view and insults flying all over and schools images getting caught up in the behaviour of their supporters. This is not on!..That Schoolboy blog at R365 was stopped because of this type of blogging. I was one of those bloggers way back then that got totally emerged in the passion and forgot what it is supposed to be about. Spies/Andre T will be able to confirm this as he was as guilty as me in this instance! :mrgreen:
    We all want “our” boys and “our” school to do well and succeed in whatever they are doing..but not at the cost of losing one’s decency. In the end we are all passionate about the schools we support (and represent in some way on this blog..something to think about!)..But it all ends up in providing players for our beloved Springboks. If more schools can provide more opportunities for players to develop and become better players I say kudus to them. Don’t matter where they come from, as long as they get the opportunity to exhibit their potential. How else will we as a rugby playing nation unearth the gems? SBR is vital to SA…That is a given. We have more players playing this game than NZ have sheep!..yet we are sucking hind tit to them…why?..because we will always be fighting against another instead of working together!..If the WP with their abundant natural talent cannot accommodate all the players of colour in their “traditional” rugby schools, what is the problem for these players to get opportunities elsewhere wherever that may be?..Our systems are to put it bluntly..fucked up..If you are not in a high profile school you have to work so much harder to get through and recognized in any system!. That is why our “platteland” schools systems have gone to the dogs in terms of rugby. They cannot compete in terms of exposure to the top rugby schools. Why would any player with some ability even want to stay in Moreesburg when he can get an opportunity at a Paarl Gim or a Boishaai or a Glenwood or a Garsfontein . In the end it is all good development for SA rugby. Watching the Supersport series I recognise names I remember from SBR days that I thought was forgotten in the system. Playing for whatever team it may be, coming from whatever province or school, at least they are getting exposure!. A Winnaar from Dale..(with his exuberant hairstyle!) playing for the Sharks as an example.
    What I am trying to converse here is that over a long span of time I have learned to respect views from other bloggers like Rugbyman, Kattes, Djou, Rainier, Riempies, Grizzly,McCulleys, Roger, Playa, CharlesZa, Chief, Sewes, Greenman, Tzavosky, Bush, Hooit, Gungest Tuft, Umtata, Ringo, 4×4, Vleis, Ruggerfan, BuffelsCM , my fellow Boishaai bloggers and a few others ..I apologize if I left someone out..yes..even my beloved Spiesie and T!…Even if I don’t always agree with your views what I have learned is that my views are not always the right view!…We are all exceptional individuals passionate about SBR with obviously our own agendas when it comes to the teams and schools we support, BUT…we need to give each other some sort of leeway and stop this Blog into deteriorating into something we all despise!..being seen as that tannie with the handbag running next to the touchline!….
    Beet started something here and gave us the opportunity to discuss SBR in a decent and civilised atmosphere because some of us were part of a site that lost its structure and original intent. Please guys, don’t let the same thing happen here. I was part and parcel of that original blog and I must confess that sometimes I did overstep the lines over here as well. I think it is time that we all take a little introspective look and try and get back to what it is supposed to be all about. I would like to petition Beet to get bloggers like Bog and Hopper back again as I think we would all like to get their views (however we might disagree) back on this forum. I think it will be good for us a SBR community (and that is what we are..like it or not) to bring back people that will not always sing from the same hymnbook, but at least have some different points of view as it should be. All we need is someone to now and then just give us a “ruk in die bek” and remind us when we stray from the given topic. Our viewpoints will always differ, and that is great, but all our school are all great and the boys playing this beloved game are all great, be they from Putsonderwater playing for Garsies or Buffelsfontein playing for Boishaai. At least they are getting exposure!..and this is partly what this blog is all about as well. ! Don’t let your schools colours judge your point of view!..
    This was not written under duress or threatening emails from Spies!…

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  25. @Playa: I presume you were co-commentator on the Dale-R/bosch match? Nice to hear the voice behind the man!

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  26. @BoishaaiPa: Stem 100% saam. Sal raai die hoeveelheid mense wat hier lees is nogsteeds baie, net min mense bereid om te comment omdat dinge so vinnig persoonlik raak. Beet sal al daai stats he.

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  27. @Umtata: He is an Old Dalian after all :mrgreen:

    @CharlesZA: Yeah, I’ll be there today – will be there for the Dale v Stellenberg game, then come back for the final game.

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  28. Great 20-18 win today for SACS against Grey PE. The SACS young men have now secured a good few matches in the dying seconds, but this is the hallmark of a classy outfit, that never gives in, and plays to the final whistle.

    Also ,Stellenberg were full value for their 22-7 victory over a game Dale. Stellenberg did well to stick to their structures. They were solid in the set pieces (especially the line-outs), and their defence was also top notch.
    Dale deserve a lot of credit for their never say die attitude. In the 2nd half, they impressed with their ball in hand approach, and asked huge questions of the Stellies defence.
    However, some slack finishing, due to a combination of some sloppy handling, and quality defence from Stellies, kept them from reducing the final scoreline.

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  29. Rondebosch kan dit volpunte maak vir Weskaap skole, Well Done Wynberg!!

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  30. @Kattes-Strofes: SACS know how to finish a game. Part of a winning mentality is that you also have to force the opposition to make mistakes. SACS have done that for 2 games in a row and got the reward. Kudos to them, and their ‘play to the death’ mentality.

    Stellenberg pulled a special performance. Dominated for a half, and scored 22 points – they were dominated in the second part and only conceded 7. They were full value, and I would like to see them make an appearance again in 2 years’ time.

    Huge well done to Queens for bringing home the only victory for the EC sides today. They will kick themselves for the season they’ve had so far, s the talent in that side is immense. They played the right game today, and the boys looked comfortable, and were enjoying themselves. I love their number 3 :mrgreen:

    Well done to the winners, heads up to the boys that came second best. Another great Cape Schools – great rugby, great people. Well hosted Rondebosch!!!

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  31. @Playa: Im super chuffed with the win over Dale. A big win for us. Wish we had that heart on defence the whole season or atleast in second half vs Bishops and Landbou. Felt at times that Dale was to predicatable with their tap n go. Sure Fassi will feel it tonight as he took some big hits. Wish they used Matsinya more as he is a special player, balanced runner with a strong handoff.

    On our side I was impressed by Jansen the tight head. Scrummed well, took ball up strong, stole a few balls at the rucks and put in a monster hit just as Dale looked to get some momentum in the second half. Vd Merwe at 10 also did very well seeing as it was only his second game in that position. Koen at 9 also deserves a mention, he is our 3rd choice 9 but played out of his socks, kicked some good accurate box kicks and made one good run. In the forwards Andre Hanekom stood out again with strong lineout play and a good couple of carries.

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  32. Also watched the Landbou game very closely and I am very impressed with some of the younger guys coming through. Brits at hooker and Kitshoff at lock was 2 standout players. When Adendorff came on in the second half he also carried the ball well numerious times. In the backs Mills did well as well as the 2 centres Du Toit and De Klerk. They both run very well with the ball and time their passes to perfection. Reckon the Boere will be a big force in 2018.

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  33. @CharlesZA: I felt the game (the scoreline at least) would have been closer had Dale taken some kickable penalties in the 2nd half, instead of continually taking the tap and go. But clear heads are hard to come by when you’re chasing the game and 20+ points behind. Fassi will be happy to get a three week break from rugby after yesterday’s game. I must commend him though on leading the fight back when everyone else thought there was nothing further to fight for.

    Your 9 & 10 combination was strong and did a lot to frustrate the Dale backs. They were instrumental in disrupting a lot of our play that could have turned dangerous. The future is bright for Stellies, well done on a stern performance.

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  34. @Playa: Did you think the standard of reffing improved on the second day?

    I only watch the Wynberg games and felt the were some very strange decision made on the Saturday, but that the ref had a good game on the Monday (except for calling back every single quick tap taken by both teams).

    All in all there were a lot of very close exciting games (something which is sorely missing from most festivals), which shows in my opinion that there is definitely a place for CSW in the future.

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  35. @Gold: Slight improvement. As you have mentioned, there seemed to have been an ongoing theme of not allowing quick taps – maybe a function of refs not being able to keep up with the fast paced games that were on display :mrgreen: . Fortunately, none of the bad decisions influenced any outcomes of games…except maybe Selborne’s loss to SACS on Saturday, but even that is debatable.

    The thought of cancelling CSW should never be entertained. Definitely a place for in future. The boys relish the competition – it was also interesting to the many EC schools’ old boys with sons in WC schools were having headaches from balancing their support between their alma maters and their sons’ schools :lol: :lol: :lol:

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  36. @Playa: some examples of the confusing reffing I saw. Wynberg get given a shortarm for early pushing by Selborne, WB player taps the ball runs about 2 steps and kicks the ball into touch directly, he is in his own half but way outside his 22,WB get the throwin???. Selborne get blown for footup while WB are putting the ball in under the no 8’s feet, footup haven’t see that in a couple of years. Selborne kick the ball threw, WB player runs back and goes to ground with 2 Selborne players on him, it’s a ruck , the ref blows the whistle and awards the ball to WB for going forward? How does a ruck go forward.In the Grey Sacs game, Grey get a penalty in their own 22,they kick for touch, the ball crosses the touch line but a Sacs player dives in the air and scoops the ball back into play but he lands way into touch, 3 phases later Sacs score the winning try😡😡On the Border we see this quality of reffing all the time , but I must say I was a little shocked with what I saw.

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  37. @QC86: Selborne can rightfully claim a life long sponsorship from Vaseline after this CSF, they were properly shafted on both days. The ruck which you refer to at the end of the Wynberg game was the icing on the cake, isolated defender, penalty Selborne right in front, game over. The standard of refereeing, specifically around the scrums and rucks, was appalling to put it mildly.

    Scrum penalties were clearly a guessing game, with one school specifically being rewarded the past 3 seasons for illegal scrummaging. Tight head stands up and loose head either binds on arm or folds in, and yet they get the penalties as they are perceived to have a strong scrum!

    The biggest farce is at the rucks though, carrier is not allowed to place the ball, defenders are allowed to compete beyond the ball, enter from the side, not support body weight and pillar offside policing is non existent. Encouraging and rewarding positive rugby is obviously a directive that went over the heads of the WPRS. And for all the talk about the WPRS being approachable, every decision is vigorously defended and your team usually ends up on the wrong end of more calls in the matches that follow….

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  38. @Veg: Day 2 results:
    Boland Landbou 47 Muir College 0
    SACS 20 Grey PE 18
    Rondebosch 19 Queen’s College 22
    Stellenberg 22 Dale College 7
    Wynberg 20 Selborne College 19

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  39. @QC86: @Ploegskaar: I think all of Selborne’s fair calls, were given to SACS over the two days, leaving them with some rather unfortunate calls against them. My heart bleeds for the treatment those boys received.

    The rucks were poorly managed, scrums appallingly interpreted, and I am sill crying over the quick penalty situations where refs plain and simply refused to let the attacking teams play on.

    My icing on the cake was when the Queens 12 was given a yellow card against Rondebosch – penalty was not explained, and neither was the card. The ref awarded a penalty, and almost as a delayed reaction after the QC players had retreated to their line he whipped out a yellow. Neither the boy nor his teammates knew what the issue was. From there Rondebosch scored. But that’s not my major issue. Mine is if you penalise, you need to explain the infringement to the culprit, and show the card right away if the offense requires such action.

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  40. On principle i don’t complain about a ref,but with live streaming i can watch our games over and over, which i always do.Just watched both our games again,and the red mist started to rise ,but it gives me a chance to check and double check my facts :oops: some real shockers in those games.I must also say that Selborne is playing such slow and predictable rugby,that the WC sides are light years ahead of us :-o their skill levels and intensity is in a class of it’s own.

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  41. @QC86: I felt they should have used that fullback more in the Wynberg game. That kid has an X Factor about him, and seemed to bring an element of surprise. Davy was missed, and it showed, as too many forwards tried to play as backline players,starving the backline of their duties.

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  42. @QC86: LOL! That’s harsh. Maybe they just haven’t come back to earth after that victory against Grey Bloem

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  43. @QC86: I don’t think WC schools are light years ahead. Selborne received two yellow cards on the first day and still lost by 4 points. Did not attend the second day.

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  44. @Ploegskaar: Was really impressed with the Boland no.10 on the first day, his tactical kicks were spot on and he can attack the line when he spots a half gap.

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  45. @Umtata: There was an opinion, with which I agreed, that the difference is in the coaching and that the EC has better individual talent

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  46. @Umtata: Darren Hendricks, gr11, one of 9 gr11’s that played Saturday. He should be more mature next year outside the 9 which is also gr11

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  47. @Ploegskaar: De Klerk op 13 ook graad 11? Baie goeie speler. Vir my sal hy volgense jaar goeie kans he vir CW. Dit is as die keurders dit oor hul hart kan kry om oud bokke se seuns uit te laat.

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  48. @Umtata: @Ploegskaar: My sentiments exactly. To be so close on talent alone is commendable. If we can just get the coaching aspect on point, the face of SA SBR would be different.

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  49. @Playa: all for naught now with the Kings getting kicked out of super rugby :cry: Kings academy was the best development structure that i have seen in ages,just quietly went away???why ?? SARU are out of touch with the real challenges that face school leaving rugby players,and so that talent goes to waste ,very sad

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  50. @CharlesZA: Ek het die rugby baie geniet, Stellenberg het my baie beindruk op altwee dae. Boland moet ek nog die eerste game kyk maar hulle was ook baie goed op dag twee, dankie tog vir SSL, dit maak dinge baie makliker. Soos dit klink is daar ‘n klomp jong manne by albei spanne so volgende jaar gaan weer goeie rugby in die Kaap wees want Boishaai en Paul Roos behoort ook baie sterk te wees. @Ploegskaar: @Kattes-Strofes: julle gaan nou moet praat met julle vriende daar by WPRU sodat Stellenberg A liga speel?

    @CharlesZA: Ek dink een van die wynland skole se beste graad 11 senter speel vleuel op die oomblik om plek te maak.

    @Playa: @Umtata: Thanks for some awesome rugby, always good to have the EC boys here. There is some awesome talent in the EC but I also think coaching might not be at the same level as other regions, judging on what I saw in these games. Dale has a serious talented team but I honestly feel they can play much better. I hope more schools like Dale will make it at the top SBR level.

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  51. @QC86: I thought the Kings are going to play in the pro12 in Europe? Are you serious, did they stop their academy? That is so typical, coaching is the most important thing in developing a athlete, the last thing you should do is close the academy. One has to commend the Kings they have made some huge strides the last two seasons, I hope the pro12 goes ahead it will be a real shame if all that work goes to waste. Bulls and many others can learn a thing or two from them.

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  52. @QC86: I have been having a kuk morning since those news came out. It is shocking beyond any belief that this could be allowed to happen. What a farce!!! SARU have just done the worst possible thing for rugby development. I am disgusted

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  53. @Stier: @Playa: I could name you about 20 players of color that are now on the big stage because of the EP outfit.I think SARU like making demands on unions, but are not bothered about doing the work.EP academy was a God send for black schoolboy rugby players from the Eastern Cape.

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  54. @Stier: A great 2 days of skills display indeed. I hope I will have the legs for the Uitenhage version in 2019!Always great watching East vs West.

    On the Kings – the strides made from 2013 when they started to now speak for themselves. They haven’t been the same “sideways movement” story we’ve seen from the Cheetahs. The academy had a lot to do with that progress. Boys in the EC have been lining themselves up to get into that academy, now this will just take us back to the days of a certain blue union collecting players for the sake of upping numbers, and no intention of giving them a development/playing opportunity. SARU is just too damn blind to see this damage. We may decry the involvement of politics in sport; money talking louder than the game is just as deplorable. Rugby deserves better, more so young aspiring players in this country.

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  55. @Playa: Did they stop the academy? Sorry I ask but I can’t see anything in the news about the academy. If they did, it will be the biggest mistake and set back for transformation in rugby. You know how I feel about transfromation and rugby should not cry if government take exception to such a move, in fact I hope they do.

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  56. @Stier: It’s still there, but is lying in ICU. SARU cut funding last year, so they’ve been functioning on crumbs to date. It also remains to be seen what the current sponsors will feel like doing given the Kings’ exit from Super Rugby.

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