| TIME | DATE | SCHOOL | SCHOOL | EVENT | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed.18May | Labori | 14 | 19 | Hugenote | ||
| Wed.18May | Pretoria BH | 13 | 41 | St Alban’s | ||
| Wed.18May | St Benedict’s | 35 | 24 | Parktown | ||
| Fri.20May | Westville | 48 | 10 | Northwood | ||
| Sat.21May | Maritzburg College | 14 | 31 | Kearsney | ||
| Sat.21May | Hilton | 38 | 5 | Voortrekker (Pmb) / G Campbell | ||
| Sat.21May | St Charles | 6 | 55 | Michaelhouse | ||
| Sat.21May | Clifton | 13 | 12 | St Andrew’s School | ||
| Sat.21May | St Andrew’s | 17 | 26 | Selborne | ||
| Sat.21May | Dale | 31 | 12 | Grens | ||
| Sat.21May | Cambridge | – | – | Stirling | ||
| Sat.21May | Port Rex | 20 | 49 | Kingswood | ||
| Sat.21May | Graeme | 14 | 54 | Grey HS | ||
| Sat.21May | Fichardtpark | 26 | 31 | Louis Botha | ||
| Sat.21May | Sentraal | 46 | 0 | Jim Fouche | ||
| Sat.21May | Hentie Cilliers | 23 | 46 | Witteberg | ||
| Sat.21May | HTS Welkom | 0 | 31 | Welkom Gim | ||
| Sat.21May | HTS Sasolburg | 0 | 60 | Voortrekker (Beth) | ||
| Sat.21May | AHS Kroonstad | 24 | 36 | Goudveld | ||
| Sat.21May | Diamantveld | 52 | 9 | Upington | ||
| Sat.21May | Noord-Kaap | 24 | 24 | Duineveld | ||
| Sat.21May | St Alban’s | 10 | 39 | Jeppe | ||
| Sat.21May | St Benedict’s | 54 | 13 | Pretoria BH | ||
| Sat.21May | St David’s | 6 | 49 | Parktown | ||
| Sat.21May | St Stithians | 22 | 27 | St John’s | ||
| Sat.21May | Helpmekaar | 24 | 17 | Garsfontein | ||
| Sat.21May | Waterkloof | 14 | 48 | Affies | ||
| Sat.21May | Rustenburg | 7 | 40 | Monument | ||
| Sat.21May | Kempton Park | 14 | 83 | EG Jansen | ||
| Sat.21May | Florida | – | – | Jeugland | ||
| Sat.21May | Die Anker | 12 | 24 | Noordheuwel | ||
| Sat.21May | Nelspruit | 43 | 29 | HTS Middelburg | ||
| Sat.21May | Tom Naude | 0 | 57 | Pietersburg | ||
| Sat.21May | Centurion | 23 | 7 | John Vorster | ||
| Sat.21May | Randburg | 0 | 36 | Linden | ||
| Sat.21May | Lichtenburg | 20 | 10 | Klerksdorp | ||
| Sat.21May | Potch Gim | 27 | 13 | Wesvalia | ||
| Sat.21May | Zwartkop | 11 | 7 | Eldoraigne | ||
| Sat.21May | Montana | 34 | 27 | Wonderboom | ||
| Sat.21May | Oos-Moot | 22 | 5 | Die Wilgers | ||
| Sat.21May | Ben Vorster | 72 | 5 | Frikkie Meyer | ||
| Sat.21May | Volkskool Heidelberg | 28 | 25 | Hugenote (Springs) | ||
| Sat.21May | Brackenfell | 43 | 7 | DF Malan | ||
| Sat.21May | Bishops | 50 | 10 | Durbanville | ||
| Sat.21May | Langenhoven Gim | 3 | 65 | Oakdale | ||
| Sat.21May | HJS Paarl BH | 28 | 18 | Grey College | On TV ch210 14h00 | |
| Sat.21May | Outeniqua | 34 | 27 | Stellenberg | ||
| Sat.21May | Punt | – | – | Oudtshoorn | ||
| Sat.21May | Bellville | 6 | 19 | Rondebosch | ||
| Sat.21May | SACS | 82 | 14 | Tygerberg | ||
| Sat.21May | Strand | 36 | 10 | Strand Sec | ||
| Sat.21May | Worcester Gim | 46 | 20 | Hermanus |
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@Grasshopper: Maybe I can introduce you to that Westrand braai we have been discussing on the other thread at Monnas. We will have real fires burning from early morning at Monnas.
@Hooit: I’m coming out to Krugersdorp next weekend, will be my first time at Monnas. Should be a great day out. I didn’t realise how close Krugersdorp was to me in Broadacres, 30 odd kms away. Our starting flyhalf is out, broken hand or something….eish!
@Vleis: fixture was scheduled for 30 July but not going to happen – too much ill feeling and that will spill over to the boys and someone will do something stooopid.
The 9 April fixture was a combination of Pta Boys High and Parktown lower teams vs KES – no A or B teams or 1sts or 2nds played
@Roger: If memory serves, the cancelled match v Parktown was due to take place on 9 April. However, I wonder if they’ve kissed and made up, as Beet’s fixture list shows KES playing Parktown on 30 July?
@Vleis: you right – the fixture list this year is a stuff up anyway – because of the early Easter and school holidays (especially the privates and government been so different). Saints was a Wednesday game because of this and got cancelled due to waterlogged fields. Parktown has been cancelled as well due to (ahem) unfortunate circumstances and last weekend KES had a bye
@Roger: But I said they win when they supposed win and sneak a draw 14 or win they are not supposed …. to call KES the bogey team for Jeppe would be a woeful understatement of the dominance they have had over us historically…. but my comments were about now on current form we would dominate the A/B teams but down the line KES would dominate through their depth but that is the gap we closing. I also said in comment KES are a good fixture for Monnas but at 1st XV level will be outgunned by Monnas and it will be a good opportunity for them to make a big statement like EG did….. its just my observation based on current form
@Roger: @Hooit: I think a 3rd term fixture is a much better idea, as it will suit Monnas re player attrition and it will suit KES re returning key players.
@Hooit: understood – and let it be said, I have yet to meet a Monnas supporter or old boy who does not have the utmost for the KES rivalry – especially from the earlier years
@Roger: My comment is not concerned with results. The 4 games in 10 days is too much for the players. KES is the only game that can be cancelled with ‘no’ effect on anything. With 10 injuries in the 1st team group already and KES being the 3rd game in 8 days I think it is going to cost us dearly. I know this fixture was scheduled before the Lions fixtures were released but I would prefer it if it was cancelled or moved to the 3rd term where we do have an opening.
@Ringo: @Hooit: now now chaps – lets not count our chickens. KES may have been below average for the past three years but have still won more than they have lost each season and certainly, historically have beaten Monnas and Jeppe more times than they have lost. Below are the last five years results:
2015 – lost to Monnas 22-52, beat Jeppe 24-0
2014 – lost to Monnas 21-47, drew to Jeppe 17-17
2013 – draw to Monnas 31-31, lost to Jeppe 12-15
2012 – beat Monnas 15-11, lost to Jeppe 13-28
2011 – Monnas DNP, beat Jeppe 36-15
if I go back ten years Jeppe have won 3, Kes 6 and one draw. KES and Monnas played every year from 1978 – 1999 with KES winning 12 times and Monnas 9 with one draw. The fixture was reignited in 2012 with the results above. Always a “kliphard” and close game!
@Hooit: Havens forbid that I am saying this but KES has better depth than Jeppe …… at A/B level Jeppe is better than KES but down the line the Rejects take it. I think Monnas will wanna use the KES to send a message to all in the Beeld like EG did with Kempton park. It also forms part of the games manship that is part of SBR lately
@BrotherBear: Helpies, Affies, Monnas, Waterkloof and EG are what I call Kliphard rugby games it would be impossible for any school to play a season of regular fixtures against these and not have players in the casualty section of hospital after all these games…. last year we played Affies, Helpmekaar, Waterkloof and then Parktown ….. when we arrived at KES for last game of the season the boys looked more like the walking dead than I first XV rugby team…… even the boks complain about player attrition cause too much rugby …. I think a fixture in alternative years against them is good but to play all in season is insane…… still like bullying the privates and games against the other Milner era schools out of province souties like Westville and Northwood making the majority our fixtures….. but that is my preference not necessarily the approach the school will take
@Ringo: I would actually prefer it if the Kes vs Monnas game get cancelled this year. Monnas players are playing 4 games in 10 days. Glenwood-Sat, Leopards-Tues, KES-Sat and EG-Wed with EG being an important Beeld game.
@Ringo: you are just being coy, sir. Your teams are very competitive and you have heaps of talent. I don’t believe you have to play against everyone, and their mother, but it would be good to get more games against the really physical sides (not that Jeppe is not physical).
@BoishaaiPa: I understand the logic and rationale and there are probably only 5 or maybe 7 schools as many have put it on the blog that have the depth down the line to have very competive 28 or more rugby teams and that is Paarl HJS, Affies, Grey college, Paul Rous and Paarl Gim and maybe Grey High/Selborne and maritzburg college/ pta boys high would have the requisite number of teams.
The Jeppe boys love playing Affies even though most of the teams catch 50 they love it nonetheless…. When I was in schook I hated going to Pta boys High and was terrified of the prospect and I remember in gr 11 being shocked that they were an english boy school really could not believe that souties could play rugby like that. In my day the ball never used to get to wing two weeks ago I saw a Jeppe 4th team winger not only catch the ball he even threw an inside pass …. shock and horror to me….. there is method to the madness of playing these super schools but its also physically duanting endevour though
@Ringo: You need to play the tougher and stronger teams on a more regular basis right down to the u/14’s to ensure your rugby progress.
@Quagga: Do not know hey Helpmekaar are tough bunch… them and monnas last year where just a bridge too far but some love those fixtures as they improve the quality of rugby at the school. Myself I not to concerned if we skip them this year
@Ringo: don’t feed the troll
KES Jeppe will be a cracker – always is – but game of the weekend for me is Jeppe Affies – is it at Jeppe? I really hope Jeppe pull it off!
@Quagga: that’s good to hear – next year they will really be a quality outfit. Good luck to them for Sat
Come on guys. This thread about the song is not uplifitng. The game of rugby is bigger than that. School boys read the comments, let’s never forget that.
@Ringo: Would love a Jeppe Boys vs. Helpmekaar match up this year.
@BOG: My only wish is that ou gave a full account, and source if possible, of your claim about the origins of Shosholoza. That is all. Make me believe that your story is fact and not fable.
@BOG: Yes cause insinuating that I am a monkey is the only way your crawl space can be bareable….. SHAME how sad it is to be you. Do not worry your patronage will still be valued in Arusa even when the ZAR reaches the levels you predict understand from some wiki research I did on brothels those type of institutions reward lifetime membership. So you do not have to worry too much about it. There will be plenty whores for you in Arusa
@Roger: I am 100% certain KES will be at their best when they take on Jeppe. In seasons where they are below par or where Jeppe is percieved to be or actually having great season KES always play their best game against Jepppe….. But in my humble and honest opinion this season in strength versus strength game KES will be blown out the water but that is only in 6 games time lets see what happens between now and then still plenty of entertainment ahead
@Roger: @Hooit: Gordon still out. He’ll be back in a couple of weeks. Extremely impressive young rugbyheart. Currently doing video analysis of the Reds and involved in coaching the under 14 players. He will be playing a game or two this season for sure. Such a talented and positive youngster. Saw KES 1XV working hard until the sun set last night. Best thing was the all round positive vibe around the Reds. Looks like they are having fun amidst a challenging season.
@Roger: Thanks and…
@ringo @bog : Kom boys stop die kak, kom ons praat rugby.
@Vleis: good luck and ……. Cmon the Reds!
@Hooit: nope – he may be back next term. So too Monakali
@Vleis: Hahaha!I’ll stop I promise
@Roger: Is Gordon playing on Saterday. Thought he was out for the season?
@Ringo: @Roger: Unfortunately, St Alban’s is also missing some key players…but I’m sure that they’ll be well up for the game. And remember Rog, St Alban’s had NEVER beaten Boys High, so the boys have already overcome an even bigger hoodoo school this season!
@Ringo: and Gordon – hasn’t even played a game this year – all x factor players. They will all be ready for Jeppe though
I notice that the “experts” have teamed up to share with each other their ignorance. Bask in it. You wont know the difference between fact and fable@Ringo: What of “Il shake your cage if I require your opinion”, dont you understand? Even Roger Einstein could help you with that.
@Roger: its called KES voodooism: A condition caused by being so fixated with the thought of beating KES that you lose sight of the game at hand and then they wallop you…… when Kes are supposed to win they win and then they have the uncanny ability to sneak draw or even win the games they should not win….. if its KENNEDY with the knee issue then I back the greyandblues on their home turf….. Monakoli and Mpeku out those are ex-factor players in my books
@Ringo: nah – KES will take ’em – even ol Vleis has said St Albans have a mental block against KES
Having said that – I will be the first to congratulate Vleisie if St Albans pull it off
I believe one of the twins popped their knee – hopefully not
@Roger: You are so right Roger. You know there is something seriously wrong with an individual concerned when a KES old boy has to come to the aide of a Jeppe old boy…. shameful stuff hey…… anyway back to SBR The Reds are in for right old tough time in Pretoria this weekend based on the Boys High results St Albans will be pumped up for another big sculp and will fancy taking this one hey…. but on the other hand the coaching at KES is very good and they seem to come up with great game plans to win games they should lose hey
@Ringo: don’t feed the troll
@BOG: You see Mr Gutter Brain unlike other bloggers you have professed on numerous occassions that you saw the ANC comrades doing what they do first hand in London, Mozambique, Rhodesia, South West and now as your little Freudian slip has lot all know your favourite whore house in Arusa. I wondered why your were such a purveyor of racial hatred then I realised that you are a Jay Zee groupie, the two of you used to share women in the whore house or should I split the tab on one girl and co-wrote Shosholoza while you were there RIGHT. Cause everything you say is the absolute truth and as it was experienced first hand.
@BOG: Oh gutter brain Oh gutter brain how sad it must be to have a gutter brain…… I am truly saddened and motified that you could be given the task of shaping young black minds infact any minds for that matter. Do shake my cage will find that the fecal matter that your smell and find on your person is permeating from your brain and not projectile from the cage you are shaking. In words you can understand the shit is coming from you and not someone else as you would like believe
@Playa: Now you’ve ruined the friendship!!
@BOG: Point taken.My point is whether the ANC exiles sang it in whorehouses or not the song did not originate from there.That is where you’re wrong.I sometimes sing a little Justin Bieber in the shower myself.
@Speartackle: There are plenty.Two I know of in my neighbourhood
@Playa: Im assuming that you know a little about the moon- even the sun,but even though I might be wrong, Im also assuming that you have never been to either?
@Ringo: Ignorance is an absolute bliss, is it not? You should really try and educate yourself outside your immediate field of study. Frustration normally leads to insults and Im not surprized by your usual vomit. Thankfully Im not reliant on Wiki for all my information, especially the polished versions.And what is more, Im really not concerned about your opinion about me whatsoever. If I want it, Il shake your cage.@robbie: Im not suggesting that they wont produce good players. Their efforts are certainly admirable and I really wish them success, and if and when that happens, Id be the first to congratulate them. I was just saying that “the chickens should not be counted before they have hatched”. Is that being unreasonable?
Are there any academies where young white boys can learn to play soccer?
@Robbie:Ek het al genoeg goeie”swart” spellers hierdie jaar gesien dis net dat beter kinders oorgesien word oor die K ding,meeste gekleurde spellers hier bo is in elk geval van die kaap selfs die super spanne sit hiermee.
@Bog: Ek dink dit was onnodig.
Bog you seem to be insinuating the notwithstanding the efforts of Hamiltons RC and connectsportsacademy.co.za this project will never deliver a player of quality. Do you really believe that blacks cannot play rugby ? The very least that the project is achieving is giving black rugby players the opportunity to try to prove themselves. It may take 10 or 15 years, but the project is at least trying – more than most other provinces are doing.
Bog, you seem to be insinuating that irrespective of the efforts of Hamilton RC and connectsportsac
@BoishaaiPa: That’s in line with the version I know.Then again I’ve never been to Arusha whorehouses.
“Shosholoza is a Ndebele folk song that originated in what is now Zimbabwe but was popularized in South Africa. The song is a traditional South African folk song that was sung by Ndebele all-male migrant workers that were working in the South African mines in a call and response style.
Although the original author of the song is unknown, “Shosholoza” is a traditional miner’s song, originally sung by groups of men from the Ndebele ethnic group that travelled by steam train from their homes in Zimbabwe to work in South Africa’s diamond and gold mines. The Ndebele live predominantly in Zimbabwe (formerly, Rhodesia) near its border with South Africa, and they can also be found in the northern border of South Africa.[1] The song mixes Ndebele and Zulu words and is Zimbabwean in origin even though the two ethnic groups are very similar.[1]
Some people argue that the song describes the journey to the mines in South Africa, while others say it describes the return to Zimbabwe.[1] It is also sometimes sung “stimela si phume Rhodesia”. According to cultural researchers Booth and Nauright, Zulu workers later took up the song to generate rhythm during group tasks and to alleviate boredom and stress.[2] The song was sung by working miners in time with the rhythm of swinging their axes to dig. It was usually sung under hardship in call and response style (one man singing a solo line and the rest of the group responding by copying him).[1] It was also sung by prisoners in call and response style using alto, soprano part divided by row. The late former South African President Nelson Mandela described how he sang Shosholoza as he worked during his imprisonment on Robben Island. He described it as “a song that compares the apartheid struggle to the motion of an oncoming train” and went on to explain that “the singing made the work lighter”.[3]
In contemporary times, it is used in varied contexts in South Africa to show solidarity in sporting events and other national events to relay the message that the players are not alone and are part of a team”
This is the info I got on the song. I would like to see my learned friend Bog’s version to the origin of the song.
@Riempies: Kan jy dit post ?
@BOG: and you would know this because you used to frequent the whore houses of Arusa right!!!!!! their best customer and that is where you caught the syphilis that has soo infected your brain that you write the garbage that you often put on this blog ……. its like you sit in your crawl space and spew the first hideous and hateful thing that comes into your head. I bet you wake daily and tell the black children that you profess to have that they will never be do as well as any white person at anything they try…. the world according to the Narcissistic psychopath called Bog … is an acronym for Brian of garbage
@Hooit: Jip. Van skool af gekry.
@Riempies: Is daar al spanne?
Ja, en Shosholoza het sy oorsprong in die ANC se hoerhuise in Arusha in Tanzanie, maar die misleide mense, insluitend kinders, sing maar hartlik saam, totaal onbewus hiervan.
@robbie: Laat ons maar eers wag vir daardie “top” spelers om te verskyn
@Hooit: Jy Lions spanne gesien vir games teen Luiperds?
@Hooit: 12 gaan ma nie 7 nie. Die man se neus nog erg eina. Dan ons 3 ook sy sleutelbeen gebreek in games teen Bulle. Ek glo die manne wat hulle vervang gaan nie terugstaan nie. Hulle altyd reg vir n uitdaging.
@robbie: Link is a co.za
http://connectsportsacademy.co.za
Also check this one out…http://connectsportsacademy.co.za/video-connect-and-paarl-boys-sing-shosholoza-together/
Vir die van julle uit die binneland wat kla oor ‘n gebrek aan swart spelers, doen moeite om te gaan kyk na http://www.connectsportsacademy.com. Dit is ‘n projek wat ondersteun word deur Hamiltons RVK in Kaapstad. Die projek behels die afrigting, bestuur en ondersteuning van swart spelers vanaf onder 7 tot onder 19 deur ‘n rugbyklub. Die “klub” se spanne speel gereeld teen die laerspanne van top skole. Hulle is baie gewild en sal kort voor lank top spelers begin oplewer.
@Riempies: Weet julle 6 is uit met n besering. Gaan jul 7 en 12 speel?
@sewes: Agree with that but not in the same year. Like I said only very few is at possible provincial level. As the varsity cup has shown you do not have to play provincially at school to make it. In conclusion: I do not support bokkieweek or what it stands for from my Lions bokkieweek experience.
@Rugbyman: Is reg. twyvel glad nie daaroor nie. Dit is n pragtige spel die en behoort almal altyd nederig te hou. Hierdie naweek het ons weer n paar beserings agv die Lions vs Bulle games. Maar dit is geen verskoning nie en seker dat die seuns vat invule 110% sal gee.
Sterkte daar vir julle ook!
@sewes: Nee wat… ek ondersteun my buurskool…
@Riempies: Glad nie suur nie… looking forward to the rematch though… glo my ons sal opdaag vir daai game! Sterkte vir julle game… ek ondersteun ongelukkig die blou tornados 100%
@sewes: Of miskien is hy net suur. Shame.
@Tzavosky:Die feit dat daar n behoefte is is kommerwekkend (omgekeerde rassisme) vir die huidige bestel groot provinsies en die kus skole insluitend die Wes Kaap het nie n probleem met swart talent nie maar ander provinsies sukkel.
Ek het so jaar terug gehoor dat daar n alternatiewe toernooi gestig sou word waar slegs op meriete ongeag ras tot stand sou kom.
@Hooit:Na wat ek verneem kom daar provinsiaale en nasionale spellers uit di bokkie week.
@Rugbyman:Dankie ons sukkel ook met beseerings soos julle, jy moes n moerse gly in helpies gekry het om ons te back.
@rugbyman: hoop dit is suurstof gas en nie strafkamp gas – hehehe.
Gaan jy nie eers so 2% vir Helpies skree nie? As jy hard genoeg skree kan jy 10% vir Helpies gee en die ander 100% vir WK – hehehe
In wat se truie speel julle hierdie naweek?
Sterkte – hoop die manne stap weg sonder beserings. Lyk my die seisoen begin nou sy tol eis.
@tzavosky: I was only exposed to the trial process 1 year as I was interested on how it works as I was aware of players through the years who made the team. Very few were unlucky not to have made Lions team and most would never have made it. I do not know the ins and outs in other provinces. English speaking children are welcome. Even though it is not advertised as such I believe non whites are not through my experience. I do not know what is the official bokkieweek policy.
@sewes: Ek skree 100% vir julle die naweek teen helpies! Gaan gee hulle gas!
Dis vir my teleurstellend dat menlo vir garsies net 1ste tot 3de spanne kan gee by die oop spanne… hoe is dit moontlik?
@sewes: Dankie, en ek kan heeltemal verstaan waarom Tant SARU hulle sal wil ondermyn en teen hulle optree. Hoe meer geirriteerd hulle is, hoe beter. @Bush: Thanks. I can understand, knowing their undermining capabilities, why they (SARU) would try and put a stop to it. Even if its not on par now, as things will undoubtedly deteriorate under SARU, it can only get better. The fact that there is pressure on kids not to participate, tells me that they are on the right path and that SARU is concerned
@Hooit: “It almost have a racist undertone to it.”
In primary school my two girls’ netball coach was highly upset because they didn’t make the provincial team and resolved to take them to Bokkieweek. I said, fine, but then she must take the two black girls who didn’t make the provincial team either as well. Can’t happen, end of story.
It’s suppose to be “Afrikaans volkseie sport”, but Englishspeaking kids from a neighbouring school go to Bokkieweek, not so with the black players in their schoolteam.
“Almost” you say?!
The Bokkie week is like a resistance movement against SARU and the qwota system. From personal experience in the Lions it is a joke and actually means nothing. Only certain schools supports it and is usually the smaller schools. The father or person coaching the team is the main player feeder from his school. Many of the children picked does not even play for their own schools first team. Kids receives an open invitation to attend trials usually at school were it is supported or from friends previously involved. Sometimes not even 15 players arrived at trials and they must go search for players to complete the teams. About half the players are not even in the top 30 for the province on their position. So in many cases if you just arrives you get picked. The 3 main feeder schools in the Lions are Florida, Jan Viljoen and Riebeeckrand. This is from my personal experience about 3/4 years ago when I attended the trials to see what it is all about. It almost have a racist undertone to it. If the Southern Kings had a 10th team in the Superrugby competition they will compete at the Superrugby bokkieweek. Not sure how other provinces work.
@Bush: Sure you know what “Afrikaner volkseie sport” means.
@tzavosky: Nee Man Tzavosky, where’s the translate button.
@tzavosky: Lekker, thanks.
@Bush: All you want to know about Bokkieweek: http://www.bokkieweek.co.za
@Wonder: Na wat ek verneem gee kloof so dertig skool beurse n jaar wat verdeel moet word tussen al die sport soorte asook akedemie.Die probleem is egter die koshuis waar daar geen beurse toe gestaan word nie.
Ja ek is bekommerd oor die rugby maar het wel gese dat onder omstandighede die spellers en afrigters goed doen,en ja daar word hard gewerk om dinge te draai maar dit is nie om spellers na gr7 te werf nie.
Wen is nie als nie maar dit bly lekker.As ek sien hoe party ouens se bekke groot raak na n wen wonder ek of dit al is wat hulle n kick in die lewe gee.
@Murrayfield: Wat gaan dit vat om daai boek oop te maak ? Hoe klink dit: As Menlo nie vanjaar in een van die ouderdomsgroepe die Beeld wen nie, dan vertel jy die storie. Julle 0/14 tot 0/16 is moes baie sterk, so jou toe boek is moes veilig!
@Bulle: As dit dan nie die afrigter se skuld is nie, wie sin is dit dan? Klink my jy blameer die kinders wat nie die afrigter se game plan volg nie. Of verstaan ek jou verkeerd?
@sewes: Nee, heeltemal verkeerd. Die eerste vraag is wanneer het Kloof opgehou om finansieële hulp te verleen?
Nog nooit nie.
Tweede vraag is wat gaan jy doen om te help keer dat Kloof ophou Beeld speel? Spandeer eerder jou energie daarop. Die dag as dat gebeur gaan julle baie goeie spelers verloor, ja selfs die wat tans korting ontvang. Word eerder weer deel van die Tuks reeks en meer seuns sal aanhou rugby speel en al die ander sport soorte sal ook nog verbeter. Ek kan aflei uit van jou vorige posts dat jy besorgd is oor Kloof se rugby, so doen iets man!
@BoishaaiPa: Thanks
@BOG:Bokkie week is nie n SARU ding nie dis het geen kwotas nie en was daar vir kinders wat benadeel is deur kwotas .SARU is daar teen het toe meer spanne daar gestel A.B.C.platteland. Bokkie week het ook hokkie en netbal.Speel ook in n klomp provinsies wat op gedeel is bv NTVL/oos en NTVLwes daar is ook stellalanden al die ou sport Pienaar spanne.SARU en party skole is erg teen die stelsel gekant en daar word gereeld probeer om teen speelers op te tree.
@BOG: I’m not 100% sure. It’s private and self funded. So SARU has nothing to do with Bokkie Week. I think it’s U18 and U19 kids from Afrikaans schools and haven’t played Craven Week. I’m sure someone on the blog will know the exact in’s and out’s of Bokkie Week.
@Bush: A SA Schools side has never played against a Bokkie Week team…they did loose against a SA Academy week side some years ago.
@Bush: I have heard about Bokkie week, but exactly how is it structured? Is it run from outside of the SARU structures or from within? They arnt the U19s from schools, are they?
@BOG: Evening Bog, something of interest. KZN trials for Bokkie Week are on the go at the moment. It would be Lekker for the Bokkie Week Team from KZN to play the Craven Week Side from KZN.
I believe a few years ago maybe 7? The SA Schools side lost to the SA Bokkie Week side.
@4×4: Maak maar net seker van watter afrigter jy praat asb, almal het nie verlede jaar afgerig nie en die vorige jare was daar ‘n fantastiese rekord vir van daardie afrigters. Mens kan n perd tot by die water bring maar kan hom nie maak drink. So ‘n 14 afrigter het ongelukkig die probleem waarmee hy sit om die laerskool seun se manier van speel totaal te verander. Maar elkeen het seker maar sy sienswyse so respekteer joune, maar ongelukkig sal dit maar terugkom na die afrigter toe.
Ek lees in beeld PTA BH nie sy siel sal verkoop vir rugby nie.Baie waar woorde ,as jy hoor wat gekoopte spelers se gedrag op en van die veld is maar baie stil gehou word neem net die CW speller wat nou onlangs geskors is.
@4×4:Kloof se jonger spanne speel elk met een of twee provinsiaale speller want koop is uit seeds presteer hulle ondanks die feit dat daar gese is Kloof gaan in die niet verdwyn.Wat die senior spanne betref is diepte die probleem baie goeie spelers hou net op as hulle nie die 23tal haal nie.KLoof sit dan ook met 6 of 7 beseerings kon dit duidelik in die lynstaan teen Affies sien daar is nie vir een bal gekompeteer nie.
@Deon: Net laastens- ek lei af jy gaan soontoe van tyd tot tyd. Die een ding wat jy moet sien, is die museum digby die Cordoso hotel. Die museum self, was vervalle, maar wat dit die moeite werd maak, is n uitstalling van hoe die olifant foetus ontwikkel
@Speartackle: Dankie Speartackle!!
Tye h@Wonder: Dankie Wonder, wat Monnas en Affies betref, geslote boek!!
@BOG: Nee, het jou reg verstaan. Net genoem ek sou dié land graag vroeër wou sien, voor ’74, voor die Lusaka Accord, want toe was ek nog nie eers op kleuterskool nie, en kan nou maar net na fotos kyk en na ouer mense luister. Wou net nie uitbrei nie, want laas toe ek en jy oor Moz gesels het het of André T of Speartackle ons ernstig aangevat, omdat Moz niks met rugby te doen het nie. Stil bek…..
@Speartackle: As ek jou advies kan gee. “Cloudy and misty” is normaal in n vertrek waar daar vir n paar ure diep asem gehaal was . Dit sal help as jy die gordyne, vensters en deur oopmaak en die vars seelug inlaat.
@Deon: Of ek verduidelik sleg, of jy verstaan nie. Ek was laaaank na 1974 daar, maar steeds, tsv die ellende, het ek dit geniet.Dit was voor die toeloop van Boere en hulle 4X4s op die strande-suiwer skoon. Veiligheid was wel n issue en ons kon dit aanvanklik nie verder as 10 kms buite Maputo waag nie. Later, met risiko, het ons via Swaziland gery, en veel later, oor Komatipoort. Nelspruit was vir ons n tweede tuiste en aan die begin, het ons elke tweede naweek soontoe gevlieg, met n ligte vliegtuig, deur die gorge. Ek is net dankbaar dat my seun die wildlewe van die laeveld (Hy was op Uplands op skool in Witrivier) en die seelewe, tydens naweke en vakansies- duik en diepsee hengel kon ervaar en hy se vir my onlangs, uit die koue Londen, dat geen geld ter wereld daardie ervaringe kan koop nie. Ek kan n boek hieroor skryf, maar word nou deur nostalgie meegevoer. Ja, Mosambiek is inderdaad n mooi land en ek het nogal diep spore daar getrap, veral op die golfbaan- agter die vismark by die halfgeboude Four Seasons hotel.
From a cloudy misty South Coast
Morning-Happy Africa Day to all?????
@BOG: Dankie Oom Bog. Wens ek kon voor 1974 daar wees. Anyway, bom dia.
@Deon: Nee, ek weet darem dat hulle ge-devalueer het. Maar wat die tydvak betref, was daar darem n groot tydsverskil tussen die escudo en metical. Eg het in die laat 70s met die Portugese bewind ten einde geloop, terwyl die metical steeds bestaan. Ek was daar voordat dit ge-devalueer is. Ek verneem- eenvoudig gesien, dat dit met 10 verdeel was, of was dit 100? Maw 3000 Mts het 3 geword of is dit 300? So, wat ouderdom betref, kan ek oud of relatief jonk wees- ek en my kinders het dit saam beleef. Nee wat, ek stel nie belang in n dire/verblyf nie. Ek hou maar vas aan my herinneringe want ek verneem, dat dinge nie naastenby is as toe ek daar was nie. Ja, daar is geboue- waar daar nie moet wees nie en met die ontdekking van steenkool en gasneerslae, is daar weer onrus onder die boorlinge. Elk wedywer vir n groter stuk van die pastei- die tragiese storie van Afrika. Wat die balle betref, speel hulle daarmee vir dekades- enigiets wat min of meer rond is, selfs coconuts. Bom noite.
@BOG: Verwys jy na Escudo/ ou Metical. Miskien gee dit jou ouderdom weg. Indien wel, dinge is darem nou baie beter daar. Die plek is eintlik ‘n voorbeeld vir ons. 2016 is vrot, maar hoofsaaklik agv droogte, en die balansstaat”foutjie” het ook nie gehelp. Steeds baie beter as in jou dae. So dis die regte plan om jou DIRE en DUAT te kry en te hou. Interessant dat mens al meer en meer kinders met rugbyballe sien speel. So jy kan miskien oor sewe jaar daar gaan rugby kyk.
@Murrayfield: Kan sien hy is goed en ek wens hom alle sterkte toe. Ja, die Helpies mense het sy vertoning geniet.
Ek verstaan jy is die man wat vir die nuwe ouens op die blog kan vertel hoekom Monnas en Affies nie meer teen mekaar speel nie. Deel bietjie asb.
@BrotherBear: I am a proud Jeppe Old Boy and a nephew of mine is a junior at the school.
The staff and the feel at jeppe was that they really enjoyed the fixture last year against Helpies. It was played in great spirit and was great competition. word is that they are disappointed that the fixture couldn’t fitted in again. Hopefully it can get going – I know that Helpies may team up with another school to provide lower fixtures for Jeppe’s D and E teams etc.
As for the Ellis Park opportunity, my understanding is that the Ben Vorster opportunity later on was on the cards. The coaching staff rightly felt that after a tough Easter Festival it was asking a bit much to play Helpies on the Friday followed by Monnas on the Monday for Trials. The guys deserved the rest!
I saw the helps side play and it is an excellent team. Well done to All!
Jeppe had a nightmare against Ben Vorster at Ellis Park. The amount of dropped balls in scoring opportunities is still haunting the boys. The BEN Vorster team will will prepared and played exceptionally well.
@Andre T: Ons was soos gewoonlik langs die rugbyveld en die seuns was maar gentlemen en het vir die ouergeslag plek gemaak op die paviljoen
@Bulle: My probleem met die afrigting span is die spelpatroon wat hulle implementeer en vandaar my kommentaar dat hulle moet kers gaan opsteek by die 3de span afrigters wat betref die spel patroon…in wese en kort opgesom is dit stampkar rugby vs 15 man rugby.
Hulle spelpatroon herhinner my aan laerskole rugby waar die afrigters van groter seuns gebruik maak om as runners in pockets te hardloop oor die eerste en naaste teenstander, dit is ‘n argaise spelpatroon wat seuns glad nie leer om spasie en of gate te indentifiseer nie. Gaan kyk asb gerus na die afrigters se track record die afgelope paar jaar met betrekking tot hulle sukses behaal deur dieselfde spelpatroon by ander spanne afgerig
@Playa: Whahahahahahahaha
@Bush: Doesn’t really matter now considering South Africa won’t exist (as we know it) in 7 years time
@4×4: Moet asb nie die 14 afrigters van die Affies Spanne aanvat as jy nie self daar afgerig het nie. Dis altyd lekkerder om kommentaar te lewer oor ‘n afrigter. Hoe weet jy wat hulle geleer word. En jy kan nou regtig nie ‘n 0/14 afrigter met n 4de of 3de span afrigter vergelyk nie. Die 3de en 4de span seun is darem mos nou al mooi groot en is nou al deur 0/14,15 en 16. So asb dink regtig voor jy afrigters aanvat.
@Skopgraaf243: Enjoy:http://m.sport24.co.za/sport24/Rugby/rwc-2015-generated-record-r527bn-20160524
@BrotherBear: BB ek trek net u been-jy reg oor Rustenburgers
@Knowthegame: akademiese hiil-billies ;-)
Weet daar is groot verskeidenheid mense in elke dorp/stad – sien die kommentaar as tong in die kies. Mense wat ek ken van Rustenburg is nogals oulik – weet nou nie wat hulle van my sal se – hehehe
@BrotherBear: BB daar is nie net myners in Rustenburg nie..groot Koshuis ook,so hoe sal jy Helpies kids defineer…akademici kinders,sake manne of wat?ek hoor graag van u
@Andre T: great formule…like dit..game word nie op papier gespeel maar op gras.As jou formule werk sit ons Bettingworld uit op die canvas met Super rugby.Gegrond op bg maak vir ons n paar aannames op Super rugby vir die naweek..jy onthou proef/kontrole
@Andre T: Oom Hans was op Rustenburg op skool…lekker agsteman,dink1973
@Veg: Hello Veg. Good to hear.
To be honest, the cold weather, rain and waterlogged field is what really marred the day…and left me so grumpy after driving all the way down to Bloem.
St Andrew’s is certainly a school that you can be proud of – it punches above its weight division, plus it is over 150 years old, so has stood the test of time.
@Grasshopper: Rather “arse stretches”@Playa: By that time you may be a millionaire every month when/if you get paid . In an African country where I lived, I literally took a shopping bag of notes (local currency) with me to eat at a restaurant. @Veg: With those rules regarding alcohol, I know of at least one blogger here, who would not attend your matches.
@Vlies:
20 May 2016
Dear Old Andrean
Last weekend (14 May) we hosted St Alban’s for our annual derby fixture. The day was characterised by some intense competition, wonderful support from both schools and a renewal of old friendships. In spite of the weather, the event attracted a large crowd and we were encouraged by the support of parents, Old Andreans and friends of the school. There were unfortunately a small group of younger Old Andreans who were under the influence of (and continuing to consume) alcohol while watching the rugby. In their inebriated state they saw fit to make derogatory statements (using vulgar language) from the stands.
We will in future not be allowing alcohol on the school premises during a sporting fixture and we will take measures to ensure that no alcohol is brought onto the school premises during a derby fixture. I trust that all Old Andreans will see that these measures are introduced to ensure that everybody can enjoy what is always a highlight on the school calendar.
@Vleis: Hi Vlies don’t know if you will ever get this but hope that you do.With regards to the young old boys the school and the Old boys association have taken action.Looks like alcohol will only be served after the games and that no alcohol will be allowed to be consumed on the grounds.I would imagine that like all things the policing will be a bit of a issue but like you said the crowd is not that large.Just sorry that it marred your day out.I am not involved in the school or for that matter an rabid Old Boy.My only direct contact being popping up for the odd reunion.It however is a special place for me and as such I would like to be proud of it.
@LAEVELDER: Ek ry deur Middelburg toe. Sleep een van die Pumabeamptes saam met my dat hy bietjie sy werk kan doen.
@Skopgraaf243: It has taken me some time to work out what you were trying to say in your last paragraph. Well done in your participation of co-population across the borders.
View from a positive SA Rugby supporter going to a game in SA. Can’t use Uber as they have been “stoned” out of the country. Use one of the local taxi operators. On our way to the game we have to detour as there is a service delivery protest. Finally get to the game find my seat. During the game the lights go out “load shedding”. Catch the same local taxi home, on the way go through a road block, as the Coppers are only out during rugby games.
Maybe Mars would be a better place to live. There I could watch rugby without any interference.
I can always “Trek” to Menlo Park as only one group of people are allowed to participate there or has that changed since the 80’s.
@Grasshopper: @BOG: You smart people you
@Valkie:
Dit is goeie nuus oor Francois! Ja MHS se 0/14’s en 0/16’s het HTS gewen hoor ek.. veral in Middelburg sal die groenes n moeilike span wees..
@BOG: I call them ‘Ostriches’, head stuck in the sand. By the time they come up it will be too late…
@Playa: I was a millionaire once.
I had one of these…..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwean_dollar#/media/File:100_million_front.JPG
@BOG: I don’t have a government job hence I have these low standards. So will I be a millionaire in 7 years’ time?
@Playa: My son has just communicated with me from London. What would you say a million Rands would be in Pounds in 7 years from now? Pounds 5000 ? Why, if you have a government job, then you should set your sights much higher- a seven figure salary, and ” access”to resources to increase that to 8-9 figures. You get my drift? And to add insult to injury, you can even tell others, that you are “blessed”
More almal; aan die nice ouens en die poepholle
Sien dis maar nog steeds al die tyd dieselfde ou storie hier. Net die kahunas word gemention toe dog ek maar moet net se welldone aan die EGJ seuns wat met n span waarvan nie wondere verwag is nie skitterend doen op die oomblik.
Solid pak forwards, 2 massiewe ballers en tempearent manne op 9 en 10. Solid op die defenec in die middelveld.
Baie goed vir n skool met minder 450 seuns om aanmekaar te presteer teen die groot honde.
@Bush: Stop it
@Playa: Nice to humble when you have millions.
@Bush:
How I wish!
@Ploegskaar:
@Playa: According to sources, you have already made you millions
@Skopgraaf243: There is nothing like “negativity” or “positivity”- just reality, based on facts and indicators. I have not only been overseas, but lived there for extended periods. So, I would say that Im fairly familiar with how things work or dont work, both in first world and third world (eg SA) countries. Rather than a vague non-sensical response, why dont you provide reasons why you disagree. Thats called debate. Do you think that the imminent credit downgrade will encourage economic growth and investment or see a massive outflow of capital, resulting in the collapse (further) of the ZAR, JSE, massive job losses— In fact catastrophic consequences across the board?@pietretief: Jy is heeltemal korrek. In 7 jaar van nou, praat ons steeds oor rugby, maar soos tans in Zim, is die vraag natuurlik, wat se rugby?
@LAEVELDER: Francios Esselen is okay, hy het gister uitgesit met oefening maar sal vandag weer oefen.
Ek dink nie ons moet enige Middelburg se spanne onderskat nie. Van die junior spanne het ook vir HTS gewen, so as net gaan opdaag gaan ons beslis pak kry.
@BOG: Can you check if I would have made my first million in 7 years’ time?
@Skopgraaf243: See is spelt SEA
@Bush: @BOG: ag manne oor 7jr praat ons nog steeds rugby. Of ons rwc aanbied of nie, die skole gaan nog steeds speel en dis in elk geval beter rugby.
@Andre T: Jy was ook maar lekker stil na wildeklawer, slegs spiesie wat nog altyd daar is. Dink die Affie manne het al klaar vergeet van Grey, hulde slaap nou meer onrustig oor Jeppie.
BOG..BUSH…Why dont you two just buzz off to mars or France perhaps!
…”beam me up scotty – f – sakes, remember my clothes!”
You are worst than the tourist complaining about temperatures of the see or the lions roar too loud, can’t sleep!
You two prune faces will fit right in there. Keep your negativity to yourselves. RSA still has the abillity to host any world cup.
…and if you have any real knowledge of over seas countries, and the way they conduct their business, well then we still not there yet!
We are very very fortunate dispite alot of things!
…but some of you frontpullers would not have done so lekke in the the big pull had you been there yourselves!
Like they say: The big strong guys that never made it known dating the help, however the crooket mouth was not from stroke but kept asking the help behind him at the zink to meet him behind the silo!
@BOG: Ja, I didn’t even think of it that way. I wonder if there will be anything left of SA
A blessing in disguise. As things are going now, I dont think that SA will be capable of hosting a WC in 7 yrs time
Interesting read
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/nail-in-coffin-for-sas-rwc-bid-20160523
@Speartackle: Is hierdie laat nagte die gevolg van jou verhuising na KXN? Natuurlik kuier hy- seker in die Kaap. Raai met wie? En as hy nog boonop begin skel en vloek, is die kanse seker goed dat hy tot n rolmodel vir die gebied verhef kan word.
@Randy: Het jy al Monnas se scores teen Kempies gesien die laaste 4 jaar. Hulle was die laasste span wat Monnas op Monnas kon wen.
@Hooit:
Ek sukkel om te glo Kempies het n kans! Het jy EG se score teen hulle gesien?
@Andre T:
Was dit nie dalk 162 of 168 wat Affies gescore het?
Jeppe 3 van hulle 6 games wat oor is maklike wenne! 3 wat hulle kan verloor in my opinie.
Affies, KES en Waterkloof.
Verloor teen BV moet hulle n target maak vir die ander twee!
@4×4: Stem saam. Diepte was nog altyd krities. Elke span het beserings en ander seuns in laer spanne ontwikkel later. Help nie jy het net ‘n goeie A-span nie, want met beserings moet jy goeie plaasvervangers hê.
@Andre T: Is jy besig om te kuier? Klink so……..
So gepraat van Affies. Waar is hulle supporters nou na die Grey game? Gedisappear ou Playa?
Ou Cappie praat deesdae meer oor Lichtenburg as Affies, 4×4 verlang skielik na Waterkloof, Affieouer tweet net 3de span scores, Affieplaas het plotte toe getrek.
Ons Monna manne praat maar altyd
Deur dik en dun
Wen of verloor
Beserings of te not
Teen baniere en slagspreuke
Second to None
Winning is a habit
@Hooit: Ag nee dit is bad…..dis absolut bad
@Andre T: Ek dink dit is maar dieselfde geirriteerdheid wat Affies en Waterkloof besef het met die totstandkoming van georganiseerde rugbyprogramme by Garsfontein en Menlo.
@Speartackle: Doodreg
@Speartackle: Daar was ook baie sterk gerugte Saterdag en deur die week van onwelkome goed wat met Monnas truie in Rustenburg gedoen is. Maar soos ek se sterk gerugte waarvan die Monnas seuns bewus was. Hoop maar net dit is enkele en nie menigte wat hulle daaraan skuldig maak nie maar die stickers en Banners wat heeldag gewys is lyk soos n skool reeling.
Ek sien probleme as Monnas se 2 groot voedersbronne, Rustenburg en Klerksdorp, begin baniere maak.
Darem nie so erg nog soos Paul Roos se 9-3 t shirts
@Hooit: Hy het ook nie teen Outeniqua gespeel as ek reg is….of het hy?
@Hooit: Dit is lagwekkend……dan praat ons van moenie kinders beledig. Dit is n uiters groot belediging teenoor al die Rusties in Monnas…en teen alle kinders wat nie op Krugersdorp Noord of Kenmare en daai skool oorkant Sterkfontein
@BrotherBear: Geen idee. Sal more met hom gesels.
@Andre T: Hy is 1 van die 10 maar is al in die Tuks finaal beseer.
@Hooit: wanneer is PJ (haker) weer reg?
@Andre T: As ek nou n Rustenburg 0/14 ouer was sou ek bitter sterk oorweeg het om my kind Monnas toe te stuur.
@Hooit: hoor die games was erg rof teen die myners.
Kyk, om ‘n woesrander te beseer moet jy hom of “blindside” of groter wapen in hand he ( dan is jy nog nie verseker jy gaan nie slegter afkom).
@Andre T: Ek verneem Rustenburg kyk glo verskriklik aggressief en goed na hul huidige o/14 span so ek glo nie nie. Rustenburg het Saterdag n groot veldtog teen die Rustenburg seuns in Monnas gehad. Daar was banners op paviljoen en stickers op meeste kinders se skoolklere om hul punt te stel. ‘Ware Rusties is not for sale’ So persoonlik was dit lekker dat al 3 Monnas 1ste span seuns driee teen Rustenburg gedruk het. Ek dink hulle kon ten minste 2 ekstra beurse vir volgende jaar gefinansier het in plaas van om banners en stickers te print.
@Hooit: Is Ruan een van hulle ?
@Hooit: Ai dis n tragedie…..amper so erg soos in 2012
@Andre T: Wil nie nou al te veel weggee nie maar ja. As ons punte gestuur het so dit baie meer voordelig gewees het vir ons Beeld aspirasies. In totaal is daar nou huidiglik 10 spelers wat moes speel teen Kempton nie beskikbaar nie. Ons hoop 2 slaag laat fiksheids toetse Vrydag om te kan speel anders begin Kempies soos gunstelinge lyk. Weet 6 het onttrek aan Bulle game more ook. Grootste besering is Bakkies (13). Klink soos n langtermyn besering. Neem in ag dat Helpies 2 ook uit is is daar skielik 7 oop posisies in die boonste Leeus spanne.
So in a nutshell..
With Jeppe not playing Helpmekaar the only way to see who will be Lions no 1 team is to wait and see what happens against Affies.
If Affies put up more than 62 or was it 68 against Jeppe then Helpies will unofficially be Lions no 1
@BrotherBear: Ongelukkig volg ek steeds nie, ai Jirre dis darem moeilik vir julle Valies om net ‘n ding te sê en klaar
@Ploegskaar: kom ons los dit daar.
Would have been great if Jeppe was prepared to play Helpiees this year. They declined the “Ellis Park” challenge, stating it too close to the Lions trials the following Monday. So we had to lay KES on the Saturday AND the Monday. Would be a good contest though.
@Hooit: Ek hoor daar was baie beserings in Rustenburg Saterdag? Wie almal?
Was oom Hans ‘darrem’ welkom daar?
Hoeveel van hul 0-14’s kan ons volgende jaar in wittruie verwag?
@BrotherBear: Ek volg nie, jy moet maar verduidelik
@Green Mamba: no mention of the names SIX players not available (I know of two) after being asked, and you want WHAT? Good luck.
I suppose it is also off limits to enquire regarding a Garsfontein CW player suspended for 6 weeks?
@Ploegskaar : baantjies vir boeties gedy (ek verwys nie na jou). The brother was a very talented sportsman at varsity. What happened to him?
@BrotherBear: Ons nog nie naby daai level nie.
@Ploeg, al enige tekens van die WP se proef spanne? Klink asof dit omtrent n staats geheim is.
@Maroon: Wat sê jy nou ou maat, vertel meer van hierdie vlagman/ref storie, waar en waneer, klink na ‘n konkel-storie ?
@BrotherBear: Hoe so?
@CharlesZA: rusting broer, @4X4 byt net bietjie. Julle is ook in die run ;-)
@4×4: Bo Grey en BH? Dit sal nogal n performance wees.
@Playa: On the right/wrong side of Bellville, a funny anecdote from circa 2012. A Bellville school from the so called wrong side played away at one from the supposed ones on the right side. During the match, a few comments were flying when the home side was on top, the nastiest one about how they were giving the school from the wrong side of the track a proper lesson. As things go the team from the wrong side got on top and eventually ran out comfortable winners. On the final whistle, a parent from the winning/wrong side school lets rip “ja, verkeerde kant van die spoorlyn, maar jy het nie daai fokken trein sien kom nie”. Priceless
@4X4: sprake mag daar wees, maar meer spekulasie.
Oor volgende jaar se posisies: moet maar eers hierdie jaar survive en aanhou presteer. Elke jaar het sy eie uitdagings. Nog net 2 skole games voor provinsies mekaar aanvat by skole-weke en dan Beeld. BAIE rugby bly in 2016 oor.
Hou bene, hou; is nou die wekroep.
@ ploegskaar interesting.
@BrotherBear: Is daar enigsins sprake dat julle volgende jaar macro skole sal speel….julle is kompeterend genoeg om dit te kan doen….ek antisipeer dat julle eerste span volgende jaar Top 2 behoort te eindig!
@djou. Die verwysing na teem is na die ander bloggers nie na jou wat my sentimente deel nie.
Wat betref Kloof se onder spanne stem ek saam. Kloof en Menlo is baie sterk in hulle onder ouderdom groepe, maar wat sal die rede wees waarom hulle ope spanne nie na wense presteer nie…..Affies v Kloof se ope spanne het Affies amper in al die wedstryde meer as 45 punte opgestapel.
Ek vermoed die volgende….dat daar by die onder spanne baie gekonsentreer word om Craven Week spelers te lok, maar by ‘n skool met diepte soos by Affies gebeur dit gereeld dat seuns wat laat ontwikkel van die onder 16 E-Span na ‘n Tweede/ Eerste Span beweeg tussen die onder 16 groep en die ope spanne. Dit is waarom daar myns insiens ook baie gekonsetreer moet word by ander skole om die poel vam rugbyspelers gesond te hou en aan te moedig.
My gunsteling span hierdie jaar by Affies is die onder 15’s en die 3de span…..die mannetjies wen of verloor speel 110% vir mekaar…..gerugsteun deur baie goeie afrigters en ‘n ander spelpatro7on as tradisionele stampkar rugby.
@Speartackle: Daar pik ek toe wragtag ‘n voggie uit my linker oog. En dit sonder Bachus se hulp. Jy is voorwaar ‘n man met vele talente :-).
@Djou: Ek kry altyd die antwoord vam my Stormers vriende as hulle verloor….dit was nie die A-Span nie maar die C-Span wat gespeel het. Dit laat my dink aan die truie debakel….Van wanneer af bepaal ‘n trui vir welke span jy speel? Ek weet ‘n paar jaar terug was daar ook ‘n issue rondom Affies se witbulle wat in ‘n ander rugby truie gespeel het…..daar mag dalk in ‘n ander Trui gespeel word maar op die program word daar geskryf dat dit die eerste span is…irrelevant die truie en daar is ook nie ‘n comments kolom as die “rankings” gepubliseer word nie….dus hou nou asb op teem oor truie….dit word immers geag die beste 15 tal van die skool op die spesifieke dag te wees!
@Vleis: Would one of those have been Janse vd Rhyst? Top guy and top coach, Jeppe and the Lions are very lucky to have someone of that caliber at their disposal
@Speartackle: Not to mention how artificially humble they sometimes get. And the anti-biotics? Hope that its not the consequences of that gorgeous 52-year date that you were bragging about?@Grasshopper: Take a leaf from me. Im placid and loved by all. But watch me when I get a neutral jumper.@Playa: Schools often disappear, some literally- 25 have been burnt down in Limpopo in recent weeks, or otherwise figuratively, eg, as rugby entities.
If I say I am hugely disappointed that Monnas played to a 3-3 draw against Selborne and that they should seriously consider another game plan for argument’s sake? Is that being disrespectful to Selborne or the coaches or am I expressing my opinion?
If that is being disrespectful then this blog wouldn’t be half as popular
@Playa: As long as I do not make your top 10000 I am happy. In short their 2018 year will be not as good as 2016/17. But as it was pointed out 2019 is currently showing potential.
Disappear=verdwyn……………nothing wrong
@Playa: I can’t see anything wrong with that. I think the word ‘disappear’ offended you. When you do not speak in your mother tongue words could have different meanings to some who has been educated in another language
@Hooit: Your comment on Helpies being good this year and next, because of a good Grade 8 intake in 2012/13 in take, and that they’ll disappear in 2018. Can’t imagine it being a nice thing to take being told your school will disappear in 2 years’ time. It’s not as nasty as some comments, I’ll admit, and probably would not even make the top 10000 bad boy comments ever made on this blog. Maybe I read too much into the comment – for which I apologise.
@Hooit: Hy praat seker van my
@Vleis: I have a few boys but yes one did go to Monnas. They have all finished school now but Monnas remain my favourite team. I like a lot of other teams as well especially the underdogs. Sometimes I even like Helpmekaar.
I know Andre T used to hate HJS…..because of their bloggers….he bashed them to the point where they were actually looking for him. Another very ex prominent blogger on here threatened to suit him….I saw the e mails. HJS have silenced him with their outstanding play…..and their bloggers became more humble
@Playa: Which blogger you referring to from Monnas? Did not see much from Andre and I made no negative comment about Helpies current year. Some of my comments about Helpies were so nice that Botherbear and even Randy did not disagree.
Playa, the only reason I mentioned English schools specifically was because that was the thread that I was reading. I am well aware of similar activities in Afrikaans schools. I really don’t believe there is any comparison between these types of reaction between Gauteng/KZN and the Western Cape. There is lots of needle in all matches in our area, but all schools by and large refrain from insulting each other. This is more than evident in the crunch matches featuring Boishaai, Paul Roos, Paarl Gim and Landbouskool. We just don’t seem to be having the problems and discussions that I read regularly in the north.
@Ringo: Definitely not headboy. Not organised enough for that.
@Speartackle: Yep, banter is great…just not when it goes on and on. You are correct that naming a kid is not acceptable. Both your banter and your rugby knowledge are good. Where was your lightie at school – Monnas?
@Speartackle: Eish it’s hard not to speak about positions and who played well and who didn’t. We can keep names out of it but everyone knows who the player is. Enjoy the Durban derby if you still going, remember it’s on the other side of the Berea now…
@Speartackle: You are here because Paul Dobson blocked all your alias on the RugbyNumber website…I’m watching you
@Speartackle: Yeah, I’m like a rash I know and my opinions are mine and not that of the school. That is what people forget. I should probably get a neutral jersey and change my name to kakpraater…
Then on the other hand…….what if that HJS reserve that came on (who actually had a blinder) and made a few terrible slip ups………does he get blamed in the open here or not? I wouldn’t but should it be then said as it is?
Difficult one with schoolboys…..much easier to say Andre Esterhuizen is n kak centre ( I think he is good) but remember he is also still actually a boy whose dad was also a viewer on this site
This blog will be dull without some exchanges. I know daddy’s can become very upset if someone claims that another boy is better than his.
I have a problem if somebody says a certain boy is kak
@Grasshopper: Thanks Grassy. Another thing is lots of okes do not like GW because of all the kak you stir here. But I think most of us enjoy your posts… Same with Bog.
Even with old Brother Bear….he irritates the living shit out of me but at least he keeps it interesting. I also irritate most here….who cares?
I am under a heavy dosage of anti-biotics and still trying to figure out what I meant by above…..lol…..
@Speartackle: Exactly, that is what a blog is for, to express opinions and talk kak. We all let off a little steam on here. Okes love to hate me and it seems our good old friend Boggie has taken that baton from me for a bit, but I’ll get it back. Glenwood is certainly the most notorious on here, they get bashed like a boxer in a ring…
I think we must all hold hands and sing Ring-a ring-a-rosie….Pockets full of daisies
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a bit of banter and bashing
Say it as it is
Everything I say is my own opinion….that is what a blog is for. I never bash children by name….. I might have a go at the institution but mostly at their supporters here on this blog or at the game. After all this more like a soapie to me.
Some dudes are getting too serious on here and some always want to play Mr Nice Guy……the victims……I like controversy and that is why I am here. I am not only on here for a season or two till my little darling has finished school.
And most of all I like BOG…….
@Vleis: never offer Jeppe boys free booze I am gonna hold you to it and if you are buying I am drinking that is definitely engraved into my diary for next year. But well done to your boy he is the captain of the 1st XV at his school and I think you mentioned he played 1st XI cricket he must be the Headboy of the school in my day at Jeppe often the 1st XV captain was at least a stage prefect these days not so obsessed with the 1st XV captain whag I heard the Head boy at Jeppe plays 2rd XV rugby and he is apparently a stellar boy. See times they are changing we will all see this too will pass
@robbie: I am with you, the school/player bashing that goes on is unacceptable. But be cautious of singling out ‘English schools’ in a region…just last night a Monnas blogger worked hard at reducing Helpmekaa’s 2016 success, another thread written in Afrikaans (yes I can read Afrikaans), was having a go at Garsies, and Waterkloof, and a few jabs at Affies for their lack of cup action involvement. We sat back some years ago and watched as Bishops was being pummelled for buying a team, with ‘bought’ players being named by SS foes on this very blog. We’ve had northern suburb bloggers going at it at their winelands counterparts for ‘stealing’ their talent…I learned there that there is a right and wrong side of Bellville – something I never knew before. There have been some nasty Dale-Selborne exchanges; and well, last but not least the KZN handbags. Which to many’s disappointment have quietened down recently
It happens everywhere, let’s not go on a pedestal. You are right for pointing it out and pleading that people stop.
@Ringo: Next year, I’ll go back to the KES festival and we can have some beers on me.
I must add that one of the Jeppe 1st team coaches came up to my son after the game and congratulated him on his play, which was a nice touch. Better watch out, you’re becoming soft!
@Vleis: I respect your comments as think you are never baised commentator and often willing yo listen to all sides of the story which is what makes your blogs on this forum some of the more sobering and informative and you are also a concerned parent but you have the protection of boksmart in the event of something happening to your son. You have the right to have any of the people who falsely purport an over age player is the right age hauled over the coals. I promise you there are processes in place its not all a lost cause. But ja one day we will share that beer and see where we are all coming from
@Ringo: Because size is only one determinant. There are many other factors at play, but we can chat about them over a beer someday, as I think Robbie has a valid point that we’ve overdone the issue on this forum. No amount of hot air on here will solve anything…mind you, neither will going to the GLRU.
@Oldschool – to take it further:
PBHS 2nd beat St Benedicts 2nd 26—10
PBHS 3rd beat St Benedicts 3rd 62—10
PBHS 5th beat St Benedicts 4th 65—0
PBHS 7th beat St Benedicts 5th 72—0
PBHS U16A beat St Benedicts U16A 35—24
PBHS U16B beat St Benedicts U16B 25—0
PBHS U16C beat St Benedicts U16C 66—7
PBHS U15A beat St Benedicts U15A 38—5
PBHS U15B beat St Benedicts U15B 51—0
PBHS U15C beat St Benedicts U15C 90—0
PBHS U15D beat St Benedicts U15D 68—0
PBHS U14A beat St Benedicts U14A 15—12
PBHS U14B beat St Benedicts U14B 43—0
PBHS U14C beat St Benedicts U14C 81—0
In the hockey fixtures:
PBHS 1st beat St Benedicts 1st 4—0
PBHS 2nd beat St Benedicts 2nd 4—0
PBHS 3rd beat St Benedicts 3rd 2—0
PBHS 4th beat St Benedicts 4th 3—0
PBHS 5th beat St Benedicts 5th 10—0
PBHS 6th beat St Benedicts U16D 6—0
PBHS U16A beat St Benedicts U16A 1—0
PBHS U16B beat St Benedicts U15A 4—0
PBHS U16C beat St Benedicts U16B 4—0
PBHS U16D beat St Benedicts U15B 5—1
PBHS U16E beat St Benedicts U15C 11—0
PBHS U16F drew to St Benedicts U16C 1 all
PBHS U14A beat St Benedicts U14A 6—0
PBHS U14B beat St Benedicts U14B 7—0
PBHS U14C beat St Benedicts U14C 4—0
PBHS U14E beat St Benedicts U15D 6—0
PBHS are having a phenomenal season in open hockey. I believe they have only lost two fixtures outside of festivals (across all open teams).
@Old School: You can see from the rugby results that Bennies are competitive at A team level. Boys High have a good u14 A rugby team and they narrowly beat Bennies. To me this also highlights the impact of focusing on A teams and how much impact recruiting can have on your A team results.
@Ploegskaar: Op die regte plaas sal die ref ten minste nie ‘n oorstuk dra en deur die vlagman voorgesê word nie.
@Roger: Eish Kes have cast some deep vodoo on our collective physique as community sometimes think Kes could beat the All blacks with the blind school if the old blacks put on the Jeppe 1st XV jumper and the Blind school wore the Red of Kes…… A couple of years ago you guys put on green pyjamas and got hammerred by PRG at Wildaklawier would not mind if the green Pyjamas made a reapperance on the 6 August we would run rampant on the day
@LAEVELDER: Ek sal uitvind oor die situasie met sy besering. Sal jou sê sodra ek ook meer weet. Ek is wel bekommerd oor die agterlyn se diepte.
Harry het Saterdag 3de span gespeel saam met my seuns. Ek dink hy is bietjie verroes maar vermoed hy gaan opskuif 2de span toe. Hy gaan beslis ook moet werk aan reguit ingooi, daar was ‘n paar foutjies…..nie baie nie, maar een skewe ingooi kan teen jou tel wanneer jy dit die minste nodig het.
@Vleis: But on the whole it reflective of the points deferential through the age groups between the two teams think outside Affies, Monnas and Helpmekaar…. Saint Albans were the next closest to these boys hence 39 – 10 is probably a fair reflection considering all the factors at play also playing Boys High on the Wednesday before was not very wise…. this weekend will be the true litmus test for these Jeppe boys though the under 16a game in 2014 was a humdinger Jeppe winning 30 – 29 but saw the Affies front row at Saint Johns earlier this year nearly said oom to their one prop the boy was gigantic funny how there is no elegations of age cheating levelled at him
…… but aluta continues unfortunately
@Ringo: heh Ringo – don’t be bringing that average performance on 6 August
@knowthegame: hoop jy het die post verder boontoe gesien waar ek en @rugbyman sekere sake redelik ordelik en siviel uitgesorteer het. Het hom Sat aand kwart voor 10 goeie nag toegewens en net voor middagete Sondag tot ‘n vergelyk gekom.
Mag daar vrede wees – TOT DIE SPANNE WEER ONTMOET.
Verseker gaan die bere met ons wil ploeg. Gaan weereens ‘n great stryd wees. Hoop Al die issues wat polemiek kan veroorsaak bly weg, en die manne kan net SPEEL.
@Ringo: Well, I hope that St Alban’s don’t have another Wednesday fixture next year, as it hurt them on Sat. The biggest game of the season for St Alban’s is Boys High, so the boys gave it everything last Wed and thus did not have enough left in the tank for Jeppe a few days later. It certainly did not change the outcome (Jeppe were definitely better), but it changed the margin.
@robbie: Yes, on a general note, you may be correct. That said, it’s no different in the WC. It just so happens that there aren’t many SS bloggers on here, but I remember reading many vitriolic spats between Bishops and Bosch bloggers a few years ago, which all kicked off after Kieswetter made some comments about a lucky win, etc. A year later, the SACs bloggers went into meltdown mode at KES after they lost a player to them.
@Vleis: Hello to you too vleis I completely agree with you that cheering when someone is injured is not in the spirit of the game ….that is a classless action often demonstrated at Bennies do not know why them specifically but they just do….. but at the sametime they should be allowed to celebrate when they win especially after a big win like they had over the weekend against a big established institutions like Boys High its not in the spirit of the game to now talk about other things other than the published 1st XV result let Bennies enjoy their win…… I was not able to make my way to leafy suburbs of Pretoria East this Saturday but apparently St Albans played very well on the day but they are some dissenting comments that say they were made to look better than they were due to some very average performance from Jeppe on the day but its also because of the aberration that happened in 2013 the 88 – nil those who saw it seem to want it everytime we play St Albans I personally do not think it will happen again on that day the St Alabans boys just seemed to give up and Jeppe back three on that day run amark….. I understand the u16 a side was rampant this Saturday though winning 71 – 3 …… FYI I think in Jeppe language but now I am maybe generalising alot “Wednesday fixture” is the biggest swear word you can utter when you are talking about rugby that is like telling a Liverpool or Mannure united supporter they are getting relegated it is implausible and very scary we heard so much between 03 – 09 we want to shout it at other people too now at the tops of our voices…..
@Vleis: Agree fully with you. It is downright dangerous. I know a few of the boys in question had weights of over 85Kgs when they played Zim u13 in 2010 and 2011. I reckon the one Bennies front ranker weighed almost as much as both the Boys High front rankers. To me it looked like an u17 team paying against an u20 team on Saturday. It just looked dangerous.
Vleis, I’m a parent, teacher, coach et al. I’m not in any way saying questions should not be asked. Do it in the correct forum. Read the blogs over the last 24-36 hours. Read the blogs since the season started. I stand by my opinion that there is something very wrong if what I read is the general attitude in English schools in the area.
@Wonder: Maar jy het darm jou mes in vir die Helpies hakker! Glo die skare en sy spanmaats het geniet wat hy gedoen het op die veld!
Glo my, hy gaan nog groot rugby speel! Sy pa kom ook uit ‘n taai gemeenskap uit, by Die Fakkel opskool… “Wonder” maar net….!
Rugbyman en Djou, sterkte, daar sal in die toekoms altyd ‘n kompeterende Bere span wees!!
Geluk aan Helpies was ‘n uitstekende wen en span……. Onthou net jy is net so goed soos jou vorige game!!
Kom speel in die makro-skole afdeling, jaar vir jaar en kompenteer!!! Dit is wat die makro-skole kompetisie special maak! Dit is ‘n kopskuif wat lankal plaas moes vind!!
@Ringo: Hello Ringo. Were you at the match on Sat? As usual, it was a physical match v Jeppe. I think that the day was characterised by smaller St Alban’s teams trying to cope with much larger Jeppe teams…but they did not give up. The Jeppe boys were a credit to their school – a good day out!
Last year, St Alban’s 1st team struggled, so I wasn’t looking forward to watch my son play at Jeppe. My mood wasn’t helped by the poundings that our juniors suffered that day. That said, I was pleasantly surprised by the 1st team ‘only’ losing by 10. Afterwards, a Jeppe parent/old boy shouted out in my general direction “Wednesday fixture!”. I took it as a compliment that he was so frustrated that they could not blow us away that I just laughed at him. As you say, a bit of banter is fine, but that doesn’t justify a matric cheerleader inciting his school boys to cheer/jeer at a staggering/injured boy – that is going way beyond the line. When the Bennie flank ran into my son’s hip earlier on in the game and was knocked out, St Alban’s kept silent.
@robbie: Your comment re vitriol amongst English schools in Gauteng is an overwrought generalisation. More accurately, the bloggers have expressed similar experiences/concerns re one specific school.
Perhaps you are not a father. If you were, you’d view the overage player issue in a much more serious light. When my son was 14, he was 46kg, so for him to try to tackle an 85kg chap who runs the 100m in 10.6 secs was extremely dangerous. I sent a email to my son’s u15 coach prior to the start of the next season, offering to pay for the bone density tests, but received no reply. Also, as mentioned above, we contacted the GLRU who passed the buck.
I’ll continue to make my comments without any concern re libel, as I am happy to put my money where my mouth is and pay for a bone density test at any time,…and I know what the results will show,
I support PTA Boys High and think that they are magnificent school but it is naive to think that talented sports like the Ralephele brothers from Bushbuckridge ended up their with out some form of cohesion or help from from benifactors to the school. I also remember seeing some very athletic Zimbabweans boys there when I was in school who were massive. Some schools especially the aforementioned Bennies do invest heavily in their sports and while I personally hate them ” be assured its not Jeppe that hates Bennies but me personally ” I understand how change is in inevitable they must invest and they must buy otherwise how would the likes of Mafuna come up. Clearly they are not pale enough to play for Monnas and Grey I have not been around for too many years but if anyone could 15 non-whites that have played 1st XV rugby at Grey college in the last 20 years I would swallow my hat. The thing that pretenders to throne who are so hated on this blog do is they disrupt they are the uber of SBR metre taxi owners might hate them but it is very evident that it a case of adapt or be left behind. If I can share some anecdotal observations 20 – 30 years ago the government were the best rowing schools in SA. Jeppe used to win everything infact the last government school to win SA champs 1st 8 rowing and in fact the championship was Jeppe in 98 we even used to borrow Bennies boats when they starting out. The invested in their rowing and today they are the big daddy in the schools rowing feternity they would not even borrow Jeppe a size 10 spanner if the school asks them.
The reality is schools like Bennies are uber do not become a metre taxi or dig your heels in like a stubborn metre taxi operator. You will be left in their wake.
Its like when Transvaal english schools switched from soccer to rugby in the 30’s we and this loosely based on anecdotes to busy telling them how we were the best soccer school and they had already moved on to rugby. Hence we started playing against the Rejects or I mean Reds they were more established and we been chasing their tails for the last 80 years and even now are probably 2-3 years behind them but we are catching them quickly and it unsettles this new world order. Bye the way I think Grey and Monnas are exceptional schools just think as illustrated by some of tge bloggers from their schools they only seem to think you name must Jan van Stander then only will you be a good rugby player a fact New Zealanders use to ridicule SA rugby constantly year in and out…… on the young man who has been running the same times since he was 14 …… I have been same height since I was 12 which was awesome then not so much now… but back then I was a provincial gymnast jumped 5.40 m in long Jump ran 11.8 s 100m but now can’t do half those things and my 100m time has at least doubled. My point is that maybe the boy was an early developer and now has reached his peak it happens
live with it guys adapt or die its a new era now. St. Albans were not polite about it the first time they beat us infact my brother’s friend who played tighthead prop in 07 is still haunted by the Jeers about he being a pie lover and their cheerleaders mimicking a pie eating contest on the side or the field….. in 2009 when Kes where leadind 67 – 10 they old boys set up a mock Teddybear tea party in their in-goal and cheered they new for fact it will not get disturbed….. its part of the fun let them enjoy it cause when they shoe is on the other foot its not so pleasant…. Even Boys High used mock a jeer calling us jail Birds or even worse Wednesday fixture which in my eyes is still the most humiliating taunt of them all swings and rounabouts that is all……. But you have to adapt or get left behind that is a fact unfortunately
@oldschool: The scores were the following:
U/16A PBHS won 35-24
U/15A PBHS won 38-5
U/14A PBHS won 15-12
@Tang: Kearsney are playing St Benedicts in a few weeks time , How are their age group A sides ?
@Rugger fan: where were you sitting – I’m pretty sure I saw you jumping up and down !
I don’t normally comment on this blog as my interests lie in the WC. But today is Monday and I have more time on my hand. I find it extremely disturbing that vitriol/anger/bias/bad sportmanship/defamation of character/etc seems to permeate rugby in the English schools in Gauteng and KZN. Bloggers make comments about other schools, players, coaches that would under normal circumstances lead to legal action. It appears that these same sentiments are shared by the schools/old boys/supporters.
What are you playing sport for ? Is what you are doing in any way educational ? If a school has a problem with an opposing player re age contact the school and ask the question. I’ve often seen players that are quicker and bigger than the norm. It happens. It also seems that some of the traditional boys schools don’t appreciate a good “klap” by a smaller/less well-known school once in a blue moon. I really think the English schools should get together around a big table and resolve all these incidents in a sane manner. At the moment it is a sad indictment for the value of school sport in your area.
@Roger: Yep – and to make it worse – I was sitting with my Jozi maters – slap bang in the middle of a red sea (the only Red Black & White for miles)
@Valkie:
Ek neem aan Francois Esselen is beseer.. wats fout en weet jy hoe lank hy uit is?
@Rugger fan: ah – so that was you – the lone cheer amidst a sea of groans
@VanniLaeveld: @LAEVELDER: Ek stem dit was ‘n baie aanskoulike wedstryd gewees, eintlik was al die wedstryde goeie wedstryde.
Dinge was maar warm op die veld en die skeidsregter moes sy keer ken. Ek dink tog die geelkaarte het HTS seergemaak, maar ons moet maar almal by die reels van die spel hou.
Ek is bly al die A-spanne het gewen teen HTS dit was ‘n goeie dag vir ons. Die juniorspanne het eers behoorlik begin rugby speel na die paasnaweek of Aprilvakansie.
Die 2de, 3de en 4de spanne het gesukkel, maar ek dink hulle fokus nie. Dis asof die spanne net speel om te speel, which is not a bad thing……maar mens speel tog seker om te wen.
@Playa: Agreed.
@Bush:
@Speartackle: Ek is bly om te sien Lichtenburg kom hierdie jaar die bordjies verhang teen Klerksdorp.
@Orbit: Kickers have it tough. I watched a UCT vs Tygerberg game last Wednesday. With the game tied, UCT had a penalty kick close to the posts. The Tygerberg crowd wen on a booing scream fest, and the kicker missed, much to the crowd’s cheers! The game ended in a draw. Had he missed without the boos, I would have been ok with the cheering…but instead the crowd’s behaviour before and during the kick left me with a bitter taste in my mouth, and it wasn’t the golden nectar that caused it.
@Bush: They clearly don’t make them like they did in BOG’s days
@Old Boy: @Candies: I have not seen the letter, as I’m a St Alban’s parent. I can’t really comment on your level of coaching in general, as I haven’t seen your team play that much. I think that your 1st team defensive structures need a lot of work though. That said, the current g12’s have never beaten Bennies and only beat St Alban’s once narrowly at u14…so it wasn’t likely that they were going to set the world alight this year.
I was depressed at the vitriol spewed by some of the Boys High old boys on your facebook page against the current 1st team. However, I was heartened to see that even more old boys then jumped in and defended the team and the school. I really feel very sorry for those 1st team players as they’re obviously trying their best.
As I’m only a St Alban’s parent and not employed by the school, I am probably not best qualified to answer your questions re Director of Rugby, but I’ll try my best. I think that the role director of rugby at St Albans is to coach the 1st team (and select same) and to oversee the rugby development of all teams. He is also responsible for transformation of rugby and for bursaries.
On the subject of bursaries, St Alban’s gave bursaries to two chaps from the E Cape in 2011, but apart from that I’m not aware of any other bursaries since then. I’m 100% certain that none of the g12’s in the St Alban’s current 1st team are on a rugby bursary/scholarship. However, I believe that this policy should change, as how on earth can we compete with KES/Jeppe/etc, who have more than double our pupils/rugby teams, plus they give numerous rugby bursaries at g8 level and then also strengthen the team at g11 level – e.g. KES via Parktown and Jeppe via Nelspruit. We are simply not being realistic if we don’t source talent too. I strongly believe that Boys High must do this too. Even if the school does not do it directly, the old boys must start scholarship foundations (like Theo Jackson) and source talented and deserving kids to go to Boys High.
@Bush: I’ve seen that happen a few times in KZN rugby, just can’t remember exactly which matches and also in the lower teams too…
@Playa: Same School BOG went to.
@Playa: I hear your point and take it. Maybe because I was a kicker myself I have soft spot for all kickers. I just have seen the whole stand point and laugh thing for adults a little too much that it has annoyed me.
Point taken though.
@Bush: That is top drawer sportsmanship!
@Playa: Agree, the best Sportsmanship I have seen regarding this. College against Grey Bloem this year. College Centre knocked out stone cold. The Grey Bloem Scrum Half put the boy in the recovery position and kept him there until the medics arrived. The game was still on the go, he the scrum half joined the play once the medics had arrived to attend to the boy. It was incredible to see.
@Grasshopper: I fully agree with you on this. If people looked at schools in a holistic view, Boys High must be one of the top schools in the country – yet many judge them on a few lean rugby seasons.
As a Jeppe Old Boy I can say that I saw some pretty poor years at the turn of the century but the staff managed to turn it around – I have no doubt that Boys High will do the same as there are good people there and also good quality boys.
“Form is temporary, but class is permanent”
@Vleis: You are right, that time is impossible for an under14. The Glenwood Open record that has stood since 1991 is 10.64. Our Under14 record is 11.3 also dating back to 1990 and held by Attila Dudas who used to beat Matthew Quinn back then…
@VanniLaeveld:
Ja dit was n goeie wen. Moet se ek was maar bekommerd so net na halftyd toe HTS gescore het en ons maar 17-15 voorgeloop het.. Dink die manne het mooi composure gewys en n kliniese oorwinning behaal .. mooi harde game gewees met 10 driee in totaal (NHS 6 HTS 4). Dink ook nie ons het al dit reg gekry om 0/14,0/15,0/16 en eerstespan wenne te kry teen HTS nie (en soos jy se dit was gemaklike margin wenne al was elke game kliphard)… verlede jaar in Middelburg het net 1 van die 4 gewen.Veral bly dat die junior spanne partytjie toe kom.. nie n goeie Tuks reeks gehad nie maar is nou stewig uit die blokke..Beeld gaan weer interresant wees soos altyd. Monnas & EG lyk na die teams om te klop .. met Garsies wat ook daar sal wees as Embrose, Abner & kie’s terug is
I beg to differ with some points. Cheering when a player drops the ball has more to do with the advantage your team gets rather than the misfortune of the ball carrier. Same with a missed kick. How about a turn over, or a tighthead – is it wrong to cheer those too? Of course, it would be wrong to poke fun at the player dropping the ball or missing the kick, in which case that is not cheering, and more in the jeering department – and unsportsmanlike behaviour.
Big hits and bounces are more difficult to call. Boys will always go ape when one of theirs delivers a big hit or bounce, but the fun must stop when the receiving boy looks hurt following the collision. That should almost come naturally – usually complete silence should follow while the boy is being attended to, and an applause if the boy ends up being carried off the field.
That’s my take
@knowthegame: You queue for your braai spot. I though you okes just somer braai in the flat. “Nou gaan ons Braai”
@Vleis: I hear you! Truth is I agree with most of your accusations too.
@Bush: I was more talking about when the opposition drop the ball and we cheer and laugh etc.
@Bush: i really miss my Holidays in Toti..when you take the lift down to go and wait in for a spot at the braai..wish i can do it again
@Orbit: Sure, it is just my opinion, but clearly it is the opinion of many others too. A friend (St John’s parent), called the GLRU to ask what we could do about it at the start of the u15 season (2013) and they said the schools must sort it out amongst themselves – i.e. pass the buck. They then asked my friend to name the school. He declined (partly as his youngest was still at Bennies junior school
), but the GLRU chap then said, “I’m sure that you are talking about St Benedict’s u15”.
The US record for 100m (13 to 14) is 10.94, while it is 10.51 for 15 – 16. So, how on earth did the Bennies chap run a 10.6 when he was 14. Either he’s a seven std deviation from the mean outlier, or he was not 14. Interestingly, I’m told that his current times are not much different to the times when he was 14.
@Speartackle: sien beerjie bietjie meer bedees vandag,winstrel nou uit gewerk
@Orbit: What Orbit are you on at the moment. What do you do when you watch your provincial side play and they drop the ball or win a game by a ball hair? Sit with your finger on your lip?
@Old Boy: “What I read is that it seems that Boys High, by their own admittance, have written off the senior boys in the school, such a shame.” I totally agree with your view, maybe the PBHS sports office can share some light on this, seeing that they follow this blog!
@Vleis:
What is the role of the Director of rugby at St Albans?
Is he also the head coach of the1stXV?
Does he have any say in the 1stXV team selection?
@Rugger fan: Cannot agree more. Parents cheering when a player drops a ball or misses a kick is even worse. My experience is most of the time the boys know better than the parents and that is a worrying trend
@Roger: I like the KES stance on not playing them. However I think it has become a little shallow as they like Bennies to come to there Festival every year. Surely if Bennies are not enough to play KES in a fixture how can they be enough to be invited. I backed KES until they started inviting Bennies! After that the whole thing stopped making sense, and KES should play them.
@Old Boy: It’s a huge pity that rugby is the now the key promotion tool for schools. PBHS has amazing academic results, probably the 3rd strongest school in SA for swimming and always up there for hockey and cricket. I was a t Glenwood from 1992 to 1996, I think we only won about 15 games in 5 years, so about 15 out of 70. I will double check. It was a very bleak time in the schools history, even though we were winning Durban and District swimming, athletics, tennis etc…..it meant nothing. Old Boys were very hard on us. It was right in the middle of the post matric saga so we were getting pasted. Rugby participation dropped and morale was low. It was a bit of a downward spiral. However, in 1997 and a change of headmaster the school decided enough was enough. They brought in professionalism, rugby academies were set-up, gym improved, outside coaching and aggressive recruitment at grade 8 level. The schools rugby improved drastically within 3 or 4 years to where in 2000 the team won 90% of their games. Since then derbies have been set-up with Affies, Grey Bloem and Monnas. All is not lost and the school should support these boys not write them off…..plenty to learn from Glenwood here. Maybe a little trip down to chat to the teachers who were there in the doldrums…
@Bush: Bush / Vlies etc.
I agree – I have seen it creeping into a good few schools (and I dont believe College is Lilly white on this either!).
Schools cheering when a penalty is awarded (even for foul play); cheering when a player is carded; cheering or a big hit is fine(but not when the player is groggy when he stand!)
I have seen a few schools doing the “na-na-na-na – go home” chant for players being carded! And that is the traditional schools too.
It irks me too….. but that said – I personally gave out a fairly loud cheer when KES missed the final conversion and did not beat College a few weeks back (pot calling kettle black perhaps?????)
@Tang :
Yes I have also experienced the same thing regarding Bennies. They are so desperate to be seen in the same height as some of the traditional boys schools that it often spills over. They have a lot of work to do with regard to having a bit of class in losses and failures. They do have this ‘new money’ attitude which for most people is hard to digest.
At the same time I think most schools recruit (except boys high) and not always fair to single out one school. I do feel that playing Bennies is never a nice day out and I’m sure schools will start letting them know that.
@Grasshopper They are a loud bunch and yet they lost all three games at KES Fest which should have kept them humble. Seems it didn’t work.
@Vleis I think you are the most level headed blogger on here and I enjoy reading your thoughts! However I don’t know if those accusations can be backed up with fact. The 13 played U16 two years ago, and he spent some time in the 1st side (against bok smart regulations however- KES and PARKTOWN often have done the same).
They are large lads though!!
@Old Boy i agree with you. The school cannot just blame in take. I agree with Boys High stance and that of @Tang however I do think a little look at the systems and coaches put in place should happen. Boys High are one of the best, if the not the best Government school in South Africa, they will get it right if they put good men and structures in place. I’m rooting for them!
As mentioned earlier by #Hound – Kearsney came out firing in the first half and were soon 14 nil up. The remainder of the match was much more even – and probably the 2nd half from a territory/possession perspective squarly in College’s favour.
However – awesome defence by the One Stripes and a LOT of handling errors left a lot of points for both teams begging at the end of the day.
Well done for Kearsney coming away with both the 1stXV and U14A wins. The match of the day mus have been the U16A where KC were in a 20 nil lead – and then went down 28 – 27 after being 28 – 20 at one stage!!
Great to have a good local school to have a rivalry againt.
Totals for the daay
Played Rugby 26 – College 23 – KC 3 (plus a few make ups from other schools)
Played Hockey 12 – College 12
@Quagga: Yes Quagga besides my wrong prediction regarding Helpmekaar……the others were correct. I didn’t get the margins right though.
If I had known Garsies were without 6 of their regulars and playing n B team strip….I would have had all spot on…..lol
@Vleis: I just received a letter from Boys High to Old Boys regarding the performance of sport as a whole and then specifically the first team rugby. Have you seen it? I agree that our other sports are doing really well. My concern is whether the first team is getting the best coaching available to the school. These are the boys that the whole school and the Old Boys are looking at in terms of performance. I don’t see that the sporting staff at Boys High is taking into consideration what bad coaching is doing to the morale of the first team. I saw numerous boys in tears after the match on Saturday.
I didn’t mention this in my previous comments, but since the letter mentioned that Boys High is watching social media perhaps it is time to state that it is blantantly clear that the first team is not being coached by the very best coaches available to the school. I think this is extremely unfair as these are the boys that put their bodies on the line every week and unfortunately, the boys that represent the school at the highest level in the sport.
I understand the cuurent approach, but there is no reason not to give the current first team the support and coaching it deserves as a team. My grandson plays for the team and I believe there is some real talent. The team could perform better if they are coached properly. Even a ten percent improvement could make a big difference!!! What I read is that it seems that Boys High, by their own admittance, have written off the senior boys in the school, such a shame.
@Speartackle: Not a bad prediction, only major diff there the surprise runaway the Rhinos pulled over the Rooi Bulle, incorrect prediction with the Helpmekaar win over Garsies. EG Jansen were also excellent over Kempies and that must be some kind of record score. Boishaai are very impressive and earn massive respect from everyone. Another shocker was PTA Boys going down to St. Bennys.
It’s a real pity about the Boy’s High vs Bennies result. I have no doubt that Boy’s High will rise again in the future.
To be fair this years Bennies side is not a bad team. However, their continued use of Zimbo imports seems to have formed the backbone of their team for the last few years now. Imagine the flack that a traditional boy’s school would get if they did it. Bennies can be thankful for their relative anonymity amongst the traditional schools.
@Vleis and Tang Your experiences with Bennies is an example of how money can’t buy class…or history and tradition for that matter
@Bush: Yes, I’ve also had quite a few unpleasant experiences with St Charles.
Bennies should play a Top10 school and feel what it’s like to get a klap. Seems like another úp-start’ private school….seen that attitude many times before.
@Vleis: Ja Vleis, we had the same thing at House this weekend. Boy got hit hard and fair by as St Charles boy. The House boy was almost knocked out. He was struggling to get to his feet. The St Charles School Boys went wild by screaming and laughing. I find that sort of thing disgusting. I have no problem with the big hit, but you don’t laugh and go mad from the sideline. Disgusting.
St Charles didn’t win a game of rugby on Saturday.
@Tang: Tang, I fully agree with your comments about having the need to win at all costs. I was sitting on the Bennies side during the first half and must say, I did not get the feeling that the Bennies parents support the team the same way that Boys High parents supports our team. It is as if they are watching a professional team that need to proof their worth and that’s it. Perhaps because there were so few Bennies parents supporting that I feel this way?
It was so disappointing to see how our boys battled, but kept on trying right to the end. I must say, although I was disappointed in our backline’s ability to defend, after giving it some thought, these boys where defending against a team where each boy was at least 10kg heavier than their opposite nr. Although no excuse, I do feel this has an impact. Our boys will need to start eating some old fashioned mieliepap and meat and gain some serious kilos if they want to compete against these semi-professional schools going forward.
@Vleis: that’s pathetic – I can tell you that wouldn’t be tolerated and any traditional boys school in JHB. The cheerleader would be hauled over the coals and disciplined
@Tang: I agree with you re Bennies.
Age: I’ve had serious concerns re four of their players since they were “u14”. I offered to do bone density testing, but the schools seem to not want to raise a fuss. The one chap was 85kg and ran the 100m in 10.6 when he was u14. 99.9% of schools in the country do not have an u19 100m record of 10.6, let alone u14…because the chap was not 14.
Behaviour: when we played them at Bennies a few weeks ago, their cheerleader urged on their crowd to cheer and laugh when my son got up very unsteadily after he made a heavy tackle. What kind os a scummy school laughs at an injured player? My wife was spitting nails.
@Tang: new kids on the block, a rugby program barely in its infancy (20+ years ago rugby at Bennies didn’t exist – they played soccer) – they will make a song and dance about any success they have as they don’t have a history and tradition going back 100+ years to fall back on. I wouldn’t let it bother you – Boys High vs Bennies – no contest. But well done to them on their win against probably the weakest Boys High XV in their history – enjoy it ‘cos it wont happen again for a very long time.
I know for a fact that Bennies are desperate to play KES annually (the noise gets louder when they produce a half decent 1st XV) and KES won’t entertain it – I am not sure why Boys High do?
@Tang: That type of attitude I found prevalent amongst the Bennies parents at the KES fest. Luckily for me sitting next to them at the time, KC taught them a decent lesson on the field!!!
@Vleis: Do St Benedicts have post matric? I keep seeing the same players year after year in the Bennies first team. This year there are at least three guys who are playing their third year of first team rugby.
After the match on Saturday, I was very saddened by school boy rugby. St Benedicts win one match all day and they quite literally thrash boys high at first team level. The thing is, it just doesn’t feel right. You look at the size of the Bennies boys, where they come from and their lack of depth and the fact that at least three of them are playing a third year of first team rugby and it just leaves a bitter taste in your mouth. The two props and the number 13 just can’t be 18 years old. There size and weight gain since u16 level is dubious and should be questioned.
There was something so gangster, so Bedfordview about the Bennies first team win. The obnoxious first team players loudly shouting fifty on a rugby ground so steeped in tradition. Maybe it is the obnoxious boys who fail to greet adults, maybe it is the obnoxious parents who so often fail to return the greetings of the Boys High boys.
Something is seriously wrong with school boy rugby when we legitimize the way Bennies are willing to win at all costs. There is something so false and so pretentious about their first team. I can’t pin point it specifically but it feels like a bunch of mercenaries doing the bidding of their rich masters.
These views are my own and are not the views of Pretoria Boys Hugh School.
@Bush: hehehe
@Randy: No….but I can humm it
@Speartackle:
You do any Charles Jacobie or Briel’s?
@Bush: I do Ivan Rebroff better
@Speartackle: Only if you sing Bles Bridges or Steve Hofmeyer songs. I will be there like a bear.
@Hooit many gr 11 players getting some valuable experience this year at 1XV level at both schools. 2017 should be interesting.
@Randy te skerp vir ‘n Sondag aand.
@Bush: You’re right….I walked into the flat when it was already dark and after all those vodkas I really thought the sun was coming up….then I saw that orange thing is actually the moon……it was stunning.
I stay right opposite that huge apartment block called Sweet Waters….jeeprs I have never seen such a massive block of flats and I can walk to Ollies….you know it? I went there Thursday night to the karaoke…..sang a few songs….you should come and listen.
@Randy: I agree. Based on the past 3 years results I predict that 2017 will be a good year for Helpies and 2018 a not so good year.
@Speartackle: I’m from Umkomaas. I support Toti Rugby. Our company is one of the sponsors of Toti Rugby. You should be shopping at Woolies not Shoprite. Maybe you weren’t shopping for foodstuff, especially after been at Thirsty Whale on a Sunday.
Lovely evening, the moon must have looked awesome coming up over the sea.
@Randy: fully agree with your arguments w.r.t. Swings and roundabouts. Affies and Grey proof in recent history. No guarantee for anything really, except results from hard work.
@Speartackle: Spear you are 100% wrong boet! In 2029 there will be 23! If you are U 18 you still are U19 too! Just like every month has 28 days!
@BrotherBear: Ag no son, I am not interested in academics thanks. Reading your comments I see it’s also not your strong point.
@Hooit:
Having a strong under age group does not gaurantee anything! Monnas Gr 12 group lost if i recall correctly ONLY 2 or 3 games in 3 years at U14,15,16 level.
This year they have struggled! The same cuts the other way!
Your current Gr11’s have battled at U14,15&16! That does not mean they will have a bad year next year! (This is the year Helpies got the players you usually get?) next year could be awesome for them or they may underperform!
SAME IS TRUE FOR HELPIES IN 2017
@Bush: No Bushy I am a lover man. But I’ll come down there……when is the next game? Are you also from Toti? Went to Thirsty Whales today but I caught a cold Friday there at Westville so I wasn’t feeling very well. Also almost got mugged here at the Shoprite just now.
@Speartackle: unfortunately the crystal ball was left at @Andre T. Google the excellent academic results that Helpies maintains and be assured that they will be maintained in future. Interesting fact is that the first team captain of 2015 maintained an academic average above 90% (IEB, not government). This is an academic school with good sports and excellent culture.
@Speartackle: Isn’t Glenwood an Afrikaans School?
You must come down to the Toti Rugby Club sometime, there you will learn to drink a few brandy specials on game day. Then we will also see how good you are at fighting the Tow Truck Drivers.
@Rugbymal: of leef in die huidige! Probeer dit bietjie!
@Green Mamba: Good cause those Westville okes are all dutchies
@Green Mamba: you must be able to support your convictions, sir. You hiding away is just scaring and a bit weird. If you don’t want to converse – no problem.
@Speartackle: I do understand some
@BrotherBear: There will be 9 u/19 players in the 2029 Helpmekaar team…………Prove me wrong?
@BrotherBear: This is a blog. We do not have to provide proof of everything we say. Lets keep an eye on the u/15 and their future achievements. If they achieve the same or more than the current u17 group in the next 2 years then obviously my comments were not spot on. If not then my comments were spot on. Either way the world will continue to turn the same way and all this will be irrelevant.
@Green Mamba: Mamba nr 5…..ask Beet for my phone number…..then call me and we’ll arrange where to meet. Can you speak afrikaans?
@Green Mamba: Not sure where you get your information, but as per my observation, only one schools in KZN aggressively scouts, all the other “A” league schools scout consistently based on their financially ability and taking consideration of their culture and overall objective. However in an intake like the Du Preez year, a number of DPHS 1st team boys went to Kearsney. However I don’t remember any of them from that year except Schramm and the Du Preez who made a massive impact for 3 years. They were an exception. Smaller government schools can’t afford to buy complete sides on scholarship as it will drastically distort the fees their fee paying pupils pay. Where there are 1000 plus pupils the knock on effect is somewhat diluted. It is further diluted by Old Boy donations. In the private school arena, it is not financially possible, because of the cost of the annual fees, to buy a squad of 30 plus players annually, and certainly not for one sport. So there are exceptional years when a number of scholarship players still excel when they get to open level, and are bolstered by a generally strong sporting year, more by default than design.
@BrotherBear: I was mistaken….you’re actually still inebriated
@BrotherBear: You are quite right. I am a bit hesitant to ask your input as all the ikaka that came out of your mouth last night did not interest me at all.
@Speartackle: in my case, I am also ugly, so cannot use the “next day” quirp.hehehe
@Speartackle: That sounds just fine with me.
@Green Mamba: I know the green mamba a bit shy and not as aggressive as it’s black brother, but you welcome to ask questions to those a bit closer to the action. You also seem a bit hesitant to answer my questions.
@Green Mamba, @Hooit: Helpies – u/15’s ranked at no 9 as of last week. Proof to counter your arguments, which are based on what?
@Green Mamba: Are you going to be at the game on Saturday? Have never been to your rugby field and like to mingle with the local supporters……..so perhaps we can meet up there and watch together. Then you can join me at Waxies afterwards…….will be enjoying a few toots with H2O, Star and Rhino…..what do you say?
Lol……have you ever seen a python?
@McCulleys Workshop: Ahhhh!Excuse my ignorance
@Green Mamba: Is that an Ozzie jersey mate
Wel wel wel……is al die suiplappies se voggies nou uitgewerk en gesels hul met sulke bedeesde stemmetjies?
Laat die saligheid oor julle neerdaal manne
@Playa: Only in the green varietal, not the black.
@BrotherBear: True but your u/17 group is the strongest group you had in many years and I do not think any of your other age groups will achieve the same as them.
@Green Mamba: I know they scout yearly but the 2013 group is very good and it will be a while before another age group get similar results.
@Bush: Well observed there mate
@Green Mamba: I suppose if you were a House supporter you would have a Red and White jersey.
@Hooit: Do not understand why a school would only aggressively scout for a year or two and then stop? In KZN lot of schools also do that and then enjoy a great year and then disappear for a few years. Your grade 8 intake should carry on being strong in order for you to make a real impact as a competitive rugby school.
@Hooit: not going to comment on the merits of going to Macro, or not. What you have to acknowledge is that U/14 and U/15’s also very competitive (U/15 well ranked thus far). U/16’s have very good players but somehow have not been able to gel properly. See them contributing to next year’s open age group and always time to turn around this year. Helpmekaar still believes in In-house (teachers) as coaches. Guys are doing a good job, but there are definite merits to getting some external experience and technical know-how more directly involved.
@McCulleys Workshop: Where have you ever seen a half inch mamba?
With the knowledge that I have on the Helpmekaar team the following: Helpmekaar had a very good intake of grade 8’s in 2013. More Lions A team players went to Helpmekaar than to Monnas. A few more joined them in 2014. So their current u/17 players are very good. Together with a good u/18 group they will be able to compete this year and next year against any school. From 2018 they will ‘disappear’ again from the macro school scene. So for them to play macro schools will work this year and next year only. From 2018 they will only be competitive against big schools and should get no more mackro school scalps.
@Rugbymal: a bit childish to attack the school if you disagree with one person’s comments. Understand the difference bru.
@Randy: leef in die toekoms of verlede.
@McCulleys Workshop: grow up you say sir. Go and read those clowns comments and derogative comments towards Garsies following the weekend. Then re comment
@BrotherBear: Helpmekaar beating Garsfontein and Monnas this year means they must have a powerful team. Even better so in 2017 I suppose with their strong group as under 16s last year. I Have not seen them in action but would love to. Will have to make a plan
@McCulleys Workshop: Did I once mention that Glenwood is this mighty team or running with the big dogs? I merely commented on a loud mouthed Joburg school supporter. I have never been a Michaelhouse supporter anyway because of jabs like this.
@Jakes: Agree, would be a good contest. EG No 10 (Beytel) is playing brilliant rugby, not only to dictate game, but also a points machine.
@Rugbymal: @Green Mamba: Ok, so no one can comment here unless they have more than your 1/2 inch, is that how it works? Grow up! And Mamba, I’d keep quiet, don’t make unnecessary noise until you are tried and tested. In 2008 you also won SANIX, but couldn’t beat us gay boys. No doubt you have a good side, and a good rugby program, you’d be better off enjoying it but remaining humble about it. As you continue with your dribble, other KZNs’ will consider supporting Grey, Monnas and Affies when they play you!
@Green Mamba: What, may I ask, is your beef with Helpmekaar? Our schools have not played each other recently. My interaction has been to wish you guys well before the Sanix tournament and then again before the final game. What gives, besides you not agreeing with some comments?
A game between Helpmekaar and EG Jansen would be a thriller. Pity Helpmekaar still not playing in Makro schools league. Hopefully in 2017 this would happen. Both Helpmekaar and EG Jansen had Beeld trophy winners in 2015 as under 16’s. So in 2017 this would be a massive game if they were to meet
@Green Mamba:
Nobody said anything different! Still dont know what your point is???!!!
@Green Mamba: Oh yes and you lost to the alpha males as well
@Randy: You’ve beaten a few Whippets, lost to a Dalmation and a Boxer. Time to tackle the Pitt Bulls and Rottweilers more often.
@Green Mamba:
Lets talk again after you have played some decent teams later in the year!
We have beat a few big dogs off the stoep! Your point was what?
Your team involved in the Noordvaal Beeld this year? NOT!!! Sounds like my neighbours pavement special that barks when he hears another dog bark
If you can’t bark with the big dogs, stay on the stoep
@Rugbymal:
Die skuif na makro skole is holrug gery!
Skuif jou kind wat in Graad 8 90% kry vir wiskunde maar afrikaans druip na 1Ste kwartaal graad 11 toe asb! Dit maak dalk ook vir jou sin!
Vir oulaas sal ek jou indulge!
Ons gr 11 en 12 groep is baie sterk, die res minder sterk!
1stes wat verlede jaar Beeld vir GROOT skole gewen het was eerste keer in amper 40 jaar! Ek wonder nogsteeds waar julle persepsie vandaan kom dat ons in Makro moet speel. Eintlike probleem is maar nogsteeds dat meeste GROOT skole agteruit ge boer het en nie eintlik meer op daai vlak speel nie!
Sien dit soos jy wil en verdraai dit tot jou klein toontjie kramp van lekker kry!
@Rugbymal:
Wie het iets ge claim?
Neem aan jy is by een van daai GROOT skole!
Sê maar watter een dan praat ons saam!
Ons het bragging rights van 2016 Beeld GROOT skole, jy seker daai oesjaar gemis!
Saam met dit het ons n paar Makro skole verras die jaar en ook verloor teen Drostdy!
Kortliks as jy n opinie sien of lees beteken dit nie ALMAL van Helpies voel so ek stem daarmee saam nie! Vermoed paar mense by jou skool wat ook nie met jou saam stem nie!
@Ploegskaar: Gunstelinge op die regte “plaas”? Nie maklik nie. Seker die game sal hard en meedoënloos wees. Vir wat dit werd is, as Stellenberg met ander truie as normaalweg speel beteken dit nie dat hul jul op een of ander manier minag nie……Sien dit is ‘n helse probleem in die noordelike dele van die land!
@HE: Soos genoem is die 2 skole en suidelike 4 tans op par, so enige span kan op die dag wen. Stellenberg ook 2/3 teen Landbou en met ‘n spogspan op vorm en uitstekende afrigter tans die gunstelinge
@CharlesZA: Ek het geen idee, maar hulle is tans op par met die s/voorstede skole en Landbou, daaroor geen twyfel. Dink volhoubaarheid moet gemonitor word, soos voorheen genoem
Weet nie regtig waar al die Helpies se claim to fame nou skielik vandaan kom nie.
Gaan wen eers die Let wel Beeld GROOT skole om enigsins bragging rights te he.
En as julle dan regtig so goed is skuif op Makro skole toe in 2017.
@Ploegskaar: Ons kyk maar wat die toekoms bring. Intussen moet ons “B” liga ouens maar ons kanse gebruik om te wys wat in ons steek. Dink die komende naweek se games teen Boland behoort goeie rugby te wees reg deur die ouderdomsgroepe. 1ste span game gaan rof wees……gemoedere het maar hoog geloop na laas jaar se game.
@Ploegskaar: Dink jy hulle gaan Stellenberg volgende jaar opskuif en teen al die kaapse skole laat speel?
@HE: Nee reken Strand in en Bellville uit, indien die huidige mense in beheer van skool en rugby beleid daar nie spoedig aanbeweeg nie. Dit sluit o16a afrigter Johan Joubert uit, wat ‘n ongelooflike afrigter, onderwyser en mens. Wat getal spanne betref, dis tans die kriteria maar soos die seisoen bewys is, kan dit met 2/1 skole en staggers maklik bygebring word
@Ploegskaar: Ek aanvaar dat Stellenberg, Durbanville, Bellville en Brackenfell, op huidige vorm die mees waarskynlike skole sal wees wat n hoër liga opgaan. Die vereiste van hoeveelheidense spanne sal hersien moet word. Van hierdie skole kan net Stellenberg, net net 16 spanne in die veld stoot. Is ook nie seker hoe die huidige A liga spanne gaan voel oor die nuwelinge in hul liga nie. Dink egter dit kan net positief wees vir WK skolerugby in die algemeen.
@Djou:
Djou
Almal is oor die truie behalwe jy! Kom ek wys jou na die regte post aangesien jy sukkel om dit te sien! #139. Oor en uit!
Jy sit die pot mis! Ek en jy stry oor iets wat BB kwyt geraak het!
Ek gee nie om wat jy dink waar ons spelers vandaan kom nie!
Maar Roodepoort waar ek bly is deel van Johannesburg.
So om jou feite reg te kry en nie ondat dit enige verskil maak nie 14 spelers uit Johannesburg ( sluit Alberton, roodepoort, benoni ens. in)
Maar hou jy aan fokus op enige een deel van enige post wat jou beter laat voel!
As jy Braamfontein waar Helpmekaar is as Jhb beskou DAN is al ons spelers imports! Wat al van O14 af ge import is!!!
Wat beteken dit??? Niks!
@HE: Dis ongelukkig die realiteit, jong mense vestig hulle in die noorde van die n/voorstede en die suidelike dele van die n/voorstede is besig om demografies te verander en te verouder. ‘n PremA met 12 skole en herverdeling van die res in PremB/A1/A2/A3/A4 sal gebeur, gouer as later. My alma mater is een van daai wat nou dual-medium is en sokker speel terloops, hartseer, maar dis dryf of sink daarbuite
@Randy: Jy hoef nie ‘n antwoord oor die truie te kry nie. Dit is Garsies se keuse met watter truie hulle speel – of wil jy nou daardie keuse maak! Hoekom maak jy so ‘n bohaai daaroor nadat BrotherBear reeds die verduideliking aanvaar het?
En dit het niks met ‘n laaste steek te maak nie. Genugtig, is dit hoe ‘n mens redeneer – om ‘n laaste steek in te kry. Absoluut kinderagtig as dit so is, l.w. as dit so is. Want mens redeneer om oplossings te kry, nie ‘n laaste steek nie.
En dit help gewoonlik om die ware feite te kry voor jy ‘n argument/redenasie begin.
@Ploegskaar: Dit sal jammer wees as dit gebeur. Hierdie skole het trotse tradisies en die “B” liga het nodig dat hul kompeterend bly, anders gaan die geheel van die liga daaronder ly. Soos dit tans gaan sukkel skole hierin reeds om na waarde geag te word, en dit gaan net ‘n kwessie van tyd wees voor uitnodigings na die onderskeie feeste gaan begin opdroog. ‘n Sterk “B” liga is nodig vir al hierdie skole as hul hulself wil verbeter.
@Randy: So julle speel met 14 imports – om Brother Bear se word te gebruik. Dus, van oral buiten JHB!
@HE: Ek voorsien die talent sal voortaan by Stellenberg, Brackenfell, Durbanville en Strand gepolariseer word danksy voorstedelike migrasie en in lg. se geval ligging. Indien Bellville nie vinger trek nie sal hulle spoedig hulleself by die lys van JJ du Preez, JG Meiring, President, Tygerberg en DF voeg, die patroon is duidelik
As ek so na die tellings in die “premier B” liga in die WK kyk is dit duidelik dat gaping tussen die skole so wyd raak, dat baie wedstryde eenvoudig nie meer kompeterend sal wees nie. Daar blyk groot probleme by Tygerberg en DF Malan te wees en as daar na hul junior se uitslae gekyk word, gaan hierdie moeilike tye nog lank met hul wees. Ek dink Stellenberg, Brackenfell en tot ‘n mindere mate Bellville gaan hierdie liga oorheers in die voorsien bare toekoms.
@Rugbyman:
Sien nou die truie is net n weeklikse keuse!
Sal graag vraag 2 se antwoord wil kry
@Djou:
Helpies is ‘n skool in JHB en 14 spelers kom nie van JHB af nie
Djou waar dink jy is Jhb se grense dan?
Probleem is almal wil n eier lê oor BB se comments maar laat nie n kans verby gaan om n laaste steek in te kry nie!
Ek het twee laaste vrae vir die garsies manne
1 gaan julle volgende keer teen ons in dieselfde truie speel?
2 watter 6 posisies is die spelers wat nie gister kon speel nie? Sal graag wil dophou wat hulle na die tafel bring
Jinne, nou heeltemal genoeg gelees van die wedstryd wat gister in Hillbrow plaasgevind het. Waar is die bloggers wat elders in Gauteng, George, die grote Limpopo ens gaan rugby kyk het. Hier in die mooi deel van die noorde het Nelspruit in’n baie aanskoulike wedstryd met die rooi bulle van HTS Middelburg klaargespeel. Hulle het gewys dat as hulle voorspelers kwaliteit besit kan verseker,
hulle agterspelers met die beste in die land kan saamgesels.
Verder het die Laevelders ‘n mooi prestasie behaal deur in al die A-span wedstryde gemaklik koning te kraai. Iets wat nie gereeld gebeur teen die rooies nie, indien dit al ooit het.
@4×4 Sjoe, die opmerking oor onderwyser afrigters kan nie net daar gelos word nie. Ken te veel onnies, by Affies ook, wat puik werk doen sonder vergoeding. As ek moet begin tel hoeveel van die wêreld se beste afrigters op skoolvelde begin het as onderwysers, sal ek baie lank tel.
Goeie wen Nelspruit. Wat het fout gegaan met Kempton en Eldoraigne? Monnas vs Rustenburg was n nagmerrie vir beide skole. Ongeveer 12 seuns op die dag met ambulans na ongevalle. Nog nooit so baie beserings op 1 dag gesien nie. Net normale been breeke, dislokasies en stampe
@Rugbyman: dankie, ek aanvaar jou woord oor die truie.
@Djou: /14 15-7. /15 10-19. /16 baie-min. 2des 13-13. 3des 12-15.
Bere wen al die /14 en /16 games, verloor al die /15 games.
@Rugbyman: Wat was die presiese tellings van die ander spanne?
@4×4: Geluk met jul eerstespan se wen. Lyk my dinge is redelik gelyk by die juniors. Kloof is op pad terug met ‘n bang en behoort binne ‘n jaar of 2 weer tussen die voorste spanne te wees. Dink met Menlo se juniors wat goed doen, en Garsies wat nie te sleg is nie, behoort daar oor 2 jaar redelike strawwe mededinging in Pretoria te wees.
@4×4: Jong ja, sien dit al meer by superrugby ook – lyk my sensitiwiteit het oorgeneem en common sense is by die agterdeur uit. Tyd dat die reelmakers weer kyk na sekere aspekte.
@Quagga: Dankie Quagga, maar dit is die punt. Helpies is ‘n skool in JHB en 14 spelers kom nie van JHB af nie. Nou kerm die broerbeer oor Garsies se sogenaamde “imports” en o.19’s waarvan daar geen post-matriek is nie.
@BrotherBear: Hier is die ander issues wat jy uitlaat:
1. Vele o.19’s – wat daar nie was nie (en terloops geen post-matriek want Garsies aanvaar dit nie).
2. Disrespek met 2e-span truie – 2espan truie is die “groen-en wit strepe wat alle onder-ouderspanne dra met die verskil dat 2e-span swart broeke dra). Net interessantheid, indien dit 2e-span truie was, waarmee dink jy het die 2e-span gespeel.
3. Jy weet meer as wat jy deel – duidelik hou jy daarvan om leuens te deel.
Maar weet jy, ek sal jou vergewe – gaan egter moeilik wees om jou te glo oor enigiets wat jy voortaan oor ander spanne kwytraak.
@BrotherBear: wat is jou issue met ons truie? Ek sê weer ons het twee stelle truie en besluit gewoonlik op die donderdag in watse kleur ons speel! Daar is geen direspek bedoel nie! Take it or leave it… Magties ons het geweet julle het n goeie span, hoekom sal ons disrespekvol wil wees…
Nou dink ek jy moet jou dag geniet! Ek gaan nie my sondag versuur deur jou nie
Cheers
@AbsolutMenlo: sjoe… interessante uitslae! Klink soos rillers! Die volgende 2 naweke gaan baie spannend wees…
Just for interest sake: when would be a good time to speak about the issues mentioned? Definitely not after losing a game!
Some may say; “why not just keep quiet.” Well, did not know we had these subjects as taboo.
I have respect for the Garsies institution, but not for the mentioned actions I experienced and commented on. See it as such please.
@BuffelsCM, @HE, @Quagga, @AffieOuer, @4X4: kerels, lees bietjie mooi wie was werklik persoonlik in die kommentaar. Selfs @Rugbyman het insinuasies van drank gebruik meermale herhaal. Nie regtig “kosher”
Stem saam dat timing van my kommentaar dalk nie “spot-on” was na ‘n wen nie. Doelwit was/is ook nie om verloor span se neus daarin te vryf nie. Ons almal verloor (behalwe BH natuurlik). Die issues wat ek aanraak is egter gegrond en wesenlik.
1. Rugby is ‘n kontak sport, maar geniepsigheid en vuil spel is onaanvaarbaar.
2. Skeidsregter het by bogenoemde areas uiters eensydig geblaas.
3. Disrespek van Garsies se kant af, hetsy deur kommentaar van toekouers oor truie, en,en.
@Vleis: I don’t know all the details in the camp. But I hear that both 8 and 9 could have played at a push against St Albans after recovering from niggles so will be ready for Saturday.
I also know that a fe players had been recovering from injuries and played on Saturday with the idea of only playing them a half or so. Not sure if anyone was badly hurt from Saturday .
I’m not sure how the team and coaches feel but we all know it will be a mammoth task and I’m sure the team will give it their all!
Met Menlo se rus naweek was ek by Kloof om bietjie te gaan “spy”…
Geluk Affies 1 met ‘n goeie wen!
Interessant was egter die junior spanne 0/14 gelyk, 0/15 Affies 12 – 0 wen en o/16 Kloof 15 – 10 wen in ‘n riller stryd.
Volgende 3 naweke Kloof, Garsfontein en Menlo gaan soos altyd ‘n hoogtepunt van die seisoen wees!
Geluk Kloof met ‘n great wen by die o/16 waar feitlik Affies se hele o/16 span tans in Bulle “A” en “B” is.
@4×4: Janee… sitkamersport is dit deesdae…. manne het sag geword… ons poep soms net skelm…
Geluk met julle 1ste span wen!
Wat was die ander uitslae tussen klofies en affies?
Dit is dalk nou ‘n baie goeie tyd dat Affies se onder 14 afrigters kers opsteek by hulle kollegas wat die 3 en 4de span afrig vernaam as dit kom by die beginsel van 15 man rugby. Die seuns in daai span het baie talent maar die spelpatroon laat veel te wense oor.
Menere as julle dalk wil aanhou met die stampkar rugby spelpatroon, onttrek dan liewers julle span elke saterdag en vat die seuns menlyn toe om aldaar stampkarre te gaan ry, ten minste sal almal dit dan kan geniet.
In aggenome die resultate die jaar het die tyd dalk aangebreek dat Affies dit baie sterk moet oorweeg om soos Grey en Boishaai van buite afrigters gebruik te maak en die onnies dan as spanbestuurders te gebruik….en ek is verseker dat daar heelwat oud alumni hulleself sal beskikbaar stel.
@Djou: Rugby is al lankal nie meer ‘n kontak sport nie, vernaam nie na wat ek gister gesien het tussen Kloof en Affies nie. 2 geelkaarte vir ‘n beweerde kopstamp nadat die seun net by die afbreek punt wou skoonmaak en dan vir ‘n omkant oortreding van ‘n ander seun in die redzone wat allermins tot enige verhoeding van ‘n drie sou aanleiding gee. Ek het gevoel gekry dat ‘n geelkaart vir ‘n poep in die skrum verseker ook op die kaarte sou wees.
Ek het met Affies se wedstryd teen Boishaai agter die Garsies se afrigting span gestaan terwyl hulle na die game gekyk het. In aggenome die geskiedenis tussen die skole het hulle opmerkings en kommentaar altyd objektief gebly en kan ek ingelyks nie insien waarom Rugbyman se opsommings van die Garsies Helpies game anders sou wees nie.
@BrotherBear: Yislaaik ek het ‘n hele paar vrinne se seuns wat in Helpmekaar is maar hulle is werklik nie so uitgesproke na ‘n wen of verloor nie, steek so bietjie kers op by die ander ouers of neem maar ons voorbeeld vernaam na ons wedstryd teen julle aan die begin van die jaar….kon myself nie daaraan herhinner het dat enige van ons op die blog so tekere gegaan het nie, maar dan is daar mos die gesegde dat as jy met meer as 30 punte verloor kan jy dan werklik nog die skeidsregter blameer?
@Rugbyman: ek dink in die geval van boetibeer kan dit dalk eers teen woensdag wees.
@AffieOuer: mmmmm of dalk te wag dat die oorwinningsap eers uitwerk…
@Quagga: Jys doodreg! Die hele issue is egter begin deur julle man… wat nadat ek vir helpies geluk gewens het met die wen totaal beheer verloor het… ek vermoed dis wat die meeste van ons nie kan verstaan nie… hoekom aanhou opmerkings maak teenoor die ander skool met allerlei beskuldigings, die ref kritiseer en selfs ons keuse van truie bevraagteken as die ander skool jou geluk wens en sê dat julle verdien het on te wen?
Mens wennmet nederigheid en verloor met waardigheid…
En dis juis omdat skoolseuns die blog lees dat ek nie sal toelaat dat iemand soos BrotherBear strooi praat en dit gaan onbeantwoord nie! Ons werk met skoolseuns en ek dink die man het totaal perspektief verloor en is blind geslaan deur sy lojaliteit teenoor helpmekaar! Dalk moet hy leer wen en leer verloor…
Jou post is absoluut akkuraat! Lekker dag
@beet dalk het dit tyd geraak om geen posts Saterdae na games toe te laat om kans te gee dat die voggies verdamp en die gemoedere sak???
@Quagga: goed gestel. Sterkte vir jou Tjoppie.
@Quagga: volpunte vir jou siening
@djou @akw sover my kennis strek is slegs een speler van die Helpies eerstespan NIE van die Johannesburg area en gewone Helpie netwerk nie. Hy is in die koshuis sedert graad 8 en vanaf Rustenburg. Sy ouers mis nie ‘n wedstryd of ander geleentheid by die skool nie. Die meerderheid van die seuns ry daagliks bus skooltoe en terug soos die res van die skool. Daar het ook geen spelers in die groep vanjaar by die Helpies aangesluit nie. Twee outjies in die 3e span (gr 11 seuns) waarvan ek weet en dis dit. Geen o19 seuns in die span vanjaar nie. Dis jammer om nou dié onsmaaklikheid te lees maar kan my nie uitlaat nie want ek was ongelukkig nie daar vandag nie. My seuns se terugvoer is dat dit lekker klipharde rugby was teen ‘n gerespekteerde opponent. Ek sien uit na die volgende wedstryd maar ek stem met die bloggers wat dit uitwys dat die spelers die blogs lees en dus moet mens maar goeie oordeel aan die dag lê voor mens gal braak in die publieke arena. Laastens wil ek net sê die spel is groter as enige speler, skool, span, afrigter, minister (in ons geval) en verseker groter as een or baie mense met ‘n mening en ‘n slimfoon. Geluk Helpies eerstes en o15. Geluk Garsies o16 en o14. Anderdag speel ons weer en mor ons weer oor die ref en nurse my vrou maar weer my seuns ná die tyd met detol lappies en luister na die groot ‘hits’ en ander half-waar storietjies. Ek is eintlik bietjie suur dat die hele blog opgeneem is deur dié ding. Sou baie lekkerder gewees het om te lees oor die groot game in die Paarl and in Maritzburg en daar in die Laeveld en op die Oos-Rand……en Monnas se haker is great. En Helpies se haker is great. En Garsies se haker is een vam die dae weer great, ek is seker.
@BuffelsCM: Stem saam dat die beskuldigings oor en weer definitief nie tot voordeel van enige van die betrokke skole strek nie. Ek weet nie wie reg of verkeerd is nie, maar daar is sekerlik beter maniere om die dispute uit te sorteer as op ‘n blog van hierdie aard. Maak geen fout nie, daar is net so veel ondersteuners van die WK skole, wat weinig tyd het vir sekere ander skole het maar ek kan my nie herinner dat hulle al ooit so te kere gegaan het nie. Kritiek is een ding, maar die persoonlike aard van die “posts” dink ek is doelloos en neem die onderskeie argumente/vrae nie verder nie.
Sjoe ouens… ek het netnou begin lees oor die tellings vandag. Ek lees @Rugbyman: se kommentaar wat vir my soos ‘n waardige verloorder geklink het met geen verskonings nie. Ongelukkig was die kommentaar van @BrotherBear: regtig nie soos die van ‘n ware wenner nie. Los die negatiewe dinge van die blog af…..veral omdat Helpmekaar geluk gewens is. Om nou te begin met beskuldigings ens kan niemand se beeld mos enigsins goed doen nie.
Ek is ‘n totale buitestaander maar regtig. …bly nederig na ‘n wen… onnodig om beskuldigings rond te slinger…..”my 50 cents”
BEET……where is that Lipstick thread now?
Cambridge 19-10 Stirling
@Rugbyman: MENEER, jy antwoord nog steeds nie my vraag nie. Sal dit dan maar op meer aangewese tyd weer aanspreek. Beter om vroeer as later aan te spreek, maar nou Ja. Lekker slaap.
@BrotherBear: Ons het al die laaste 3 jaar n alternate strip! Niks aan dit nie… Glo jy ook die aarde is plat? Monnas het n alternate strip, nelspruit het een… EG het een… menlo het een… eldoraigne het een… baie skole het so alternate trui…wat wil jy sê? Jy is nou rerig irriterend! Gaan slaap jou hangover af…
@BrotherBear: jy is reg jy weet als en almal hier weet niks…….veral die manne van garsies weet niks van garsies nie.
Hoekom het hulle verskillende truie, want hulle kan.
@Djou: wat steek jy weg ou maat? Hoekom so belangrik vir jou om my te probeer diskrediteer? Ek weet meer as wat ek deel.
@BrotherBear: Jy bly ‘n leuenaar.
@Djou, @akw: kerels, die teen-insurgensie storie werk ook nie vir Julle nie. Kyk nou maar vir @Vastrap, hy weet ietsie daarvan maar nie genoeg. Draai storie om en maak of hy vreeslik besorgdheid is deur goeie dinge van Helpies deur te gee. Hy oorspeel net sy hand deur aan te gaan. Werklik besorgdheid persoon sou storie stel en aanbeweeg – nie aanhou herhaal.
@Vastrap: Fantasties gestel. Ons wil graag vir Helpies altyd by St Johns, Kearsney en Wildeklawer sien maar dan moet sulke ouens soos hierdie maniere geleer word. Ek is nog nooit n engel gewees nie maar ek kan n pak gee en n pak vat…….meestal tong in die kies
@Vastrap: Hoor hoor. Jammer oor sy gedrag.
@akw: Jy is reg. Soveel ouens van ander skole het hom al tereg gewys maar hy hou aan om homself vas te lieg.
@Brotherbear ek het regtig vrede met wat jou ware identiteit is. Dalk is jy die teeninsurgensie wat Helpmekaar doelbewus in ‘n swak lig probeer stel. Ek maak verseker geen grap as ek vir jou sê dat jou gedrag op hierdie lyn ‘n groot verleentheid vir Helpies is nie. Na die harde werk wat Chris en sy span gedoen het om die besoekende personeel met ‘n lekker ontbyt te ontvang en die trui-oorhandigingseremonie met Oom Piet en die 1980-span, is jou gedrag hier onverskoonbaar. Helpies wil nog vir jare teen die beste kompeteer in ‘n gees van wedersydse respek en wat jy hier doen maak die harde werk ongedaan.
@Djou: As HM nie imports gehad het nie sou hulle hele span lang Nigeriese seuns met plastiese sakkies in hulle sakke gewees het.
@BrotherBear: Hoeveel van jul imports is nie van Jhb nie?
Boys ek dink die ou is dronk
@BrotherBear: Jy is die leuenaar hier. Nie Rugbyman nie.
@Rugbyman: Jy vertel nie die hele waarheid oor die truie! Hoekom sou julle 2 stelle truie met verskillende ontwerpe en kleure benodig?
@Djou: Brombeer is ‘n grap.
Ek dink ons speel met die vark en raak vol modder, ek gaan hom maar net ignoreer.
Dis jammer die blog het nie ‘n ignoreer funksie nie.
@knowthegame: Geen post matriek in Garsies nie. Dit is mos wat jy insinueer.
@BrotherBear: I can read and I see all the lies you are spreading. Now you are trying to divert the attention away from it. Nobody should trust your word.
@Vastrap: jou ou grapjas. Jy klink soos een van die teen-insurgensie “wannabees”. Niemand weet wat my ware identiteit, so sal nie werk.
Manne die beserings is nooit lekker nie!
Die garsies 2 is beseer toe sy eie man hom geruk het teen ons speler vas! Reg voor my gebeur! Helse slag en ek dink hy het n redelike kopseer vanaand!
Hoop hy herstel vinnig!
@BrotherBear: teen menlo, outeniqua, marais viljoen… ons het 2 stelle truie! Niks sinisters omtrent dit nie! Moenie jou ore uitleen vir stront nie
@Brotherbear dit is nie relevant van waar ek is nie. Jou gedrag is onaanvaarbaar vir die Helpie-gemeenskap en jy stel ‘n uiters swak voorbeeld vir die seuns wat hierdie blog lees. Openbaar asb meer respek teenoor jou teenstanders. Die Helpie-manier is verseker nie wat jy hier openbaar nie.
@Rugbyman: lees weer die post en haal asem broer. Erken dat kommentaar oor vele O19’s was te sterk. Res van kommentaar sal bevestig word deur Julle video ontleding.
Gee asseblief die werklike rede vir die “alternate strips” en teen wie almal julle dit hierdie jaar gebruik het. Jou verduideliking hier bo strook nie met wat Garsies manne vandag gese het nie.
@BrotherBear: Om jou te help hier is jou post…
@Rugbyman: Die Helpie vs Garsies eerste span game was kliphard. Julle manne het hulle lywe op die spel geplaas en regtig hard probeer. Fisikaliteit was soms onnodig en het in geniepsigheid omgeskakel, maar dis seker maar hoe julle probeer domineer. Dominance was egter aan Helpies se kant met goed gedissiplineerde spel. Julle vele O/19’s het wel verskil gemaak maar Julle skrums was in trurat.
Sien uit na herontmoeting oor paar weke. Speel veld dan hopelik meer gelyk met ‘n baie beter skeidsregter. Julle is ongelooflike bevoordeel met die afbreek punt calls, omkant strafskoppe en hele paar late tackles. Helpies moes met ten minste 30 punte gewen het
Ek kan ook copy en paste
@BrotherBear: Ai broer… dis ons alternate strips… ons speel gereeld met daai truie… geen disrespek nie
Ek het gesê baie geluk dat julle het die game gewen het en dat julle die wen verdien het… ek het gereageer op jou 1ste arrogante post wat jy gemaak het en stront gepraat het oor ons vele o19s en ook die ref wat teen julle geblaas het… ook oor ons sg geniepsige spel… ek het bloot gesê dat ons n paar manne het wat nie beskikbaar was nie…
Jy is die ou wat nie weet hoe om die wen te hanteer nie! Miskien moet jy daai helpies trui vir n nar pakkie inruil… pas by jou
@akw: om ondersteuning af te skryf a.g.v. een of 2 wat met jou verskil is dalk ietwat emosioneel. Net soos die groen slang se kommentaar. Ten minste het julle nou iemand om voor kwaad te wees as julle “provinsies ” verloor vanaand – hehehe
@Hanswors: vorige wen en verloor deur Helpmekaar: het ek nie kommentaar gelewer soos hoierbo, nie waar? Laat mens dan wonder hoekom die gebeur op die dag sulke kommentaar noop.
Dit is met ‘n swaar hart dat ek die kinderkak van Boetie Brombeer op die blog lees.
Net voor die einde van die 1ste span game se ek vir my pel dat dit ‘n baie lekker dag was. Ons is mooi ontvang by die ontbyt en van daar af is ek na Wits se velde toe waar die rugby hard was, maar niks se ge-bitch en moan van die kantlyn af plaasgevind het nie en waar die seuns na die games vir mekaar tonneltjie gemaak het.
Dis jammer dat twee van ons seuns tussen die skool en Wits van hulle selfone beroof is, het bietjie van ‘n demper op die dag geplaas.
Ons is toe na die skool toe, lekker koffie gedrink op die paviljoen en die 1ste span game geniet. Daar was bietjie niggle, maar dit het maar van albei kante af gekom, of het Bees sy eie neus gebreek?
HM se 6 en 7 en 12 en 13 was vir my baie goed, hulle haker is nie in dieselfde klas as Monnas s’n nie en HM se skrum is nie naastenby so sterk soos Monnas s’n nie.
HM het verdien om die game te wen, het 2 mooi driee van omgekeerde besit gedruk. (Lynstaan en skrum).
Toe ons loop staan daar egter so ‘n ouerige bleskop oom en se kliphard “Julle gaan maar nog spelers moet gaan koop”.
En nou moet ek BB se geteem hier kom lees.
Jy is ‘n verleentheid vir die skool wat jy ondersteun.
Om met waardigheid te wen is duidelik ‘n konsep wat glad nie by Helpmekaar bestaan nie.
Die kommentaar hierbo moet vir jou aandui hoeveel jy as ‘n troll beskou word.
HM as ‘n span – priceless
HM ondersteuners as ‘n groep – classless…..
@knowthegame: Lol…..ten minste is jy n oulike Helpie man alhoewel jy ook maar jou oomblikke kry.
Ja nee dit is n merkwaardige prestasie deur die seuns……..help tog nou jou mede privaatskool ouers en geesdriftiges om op n grasieuse wyse te wen
Brother Bear: dis maklik om te poef as jou maag vol is. Jy sal nog leer om n wen nederig te vat…….glo my !!!
@Speartackle: Gee jou hart vir Hillbrow. Great song deur Ralf Rabie. Eers pluk Helpies Monnas se stert vere en nou trek hul die Garsfontein beertjies se tande, En dit lyk my Helpies begin ‘n paar manne/skole ongemaklik laat voel met 400 seuns en geen post matrieks.@Rugbyman:
@Djou: read the blog carefully and get YOUR facts right. Trying to hide from these things only make it worse.
@BrotherBear: @ Green mamba:
It was not the second team jerseys. Again, get your facts right. Gee, but you are either stupid or bitterly informed.
Also, nobody said Garsies lost because half the team didn’t play. Again, an assumption from your side.
Stop belittling yourself with wrong facts!
And to answer your question. Yes, Garsies and Grey lost, but we know how to win and lose with dignity.
@BrotherBear: het jy daar aan gedink dat hulle 2 stelle truie het, dalk net
@BrotherBear: Broertjie, jy het hier ‘n ding begin en wil nie antwoord nie. Waarom versprei jy leuens hier? Kry jy lekker?
Dit lyk wel dat soos jy sê jy met ander manne in die “onttrek” gesels het en nie met die in die omtrek nie. En hulle weet mos almal die beste want hulle ken die nuwe reels altyd beter as die skeidsregter.
@Green Mamba: you reckon it is good sportsmanship to say you lost because half your team was not available? You reckon it is a sign of disrespect if a first team purposefully play in their second team jerseys? Don’t judge the messenger – consider the facts.
onttrek = omtrek
Watter graad is jy?
@Boeti beer: as jy die ref wil aan vat doen dit, gewoonlik is hulle nie goed nie? Maar so uit te vaar teenoor die span wat jy teen gespeel het is nie aan nie. Ek hoop vir jou part julle 2e game gaan dit ook goed want boeta jy het jou self nou mooi oop gemaak vir baie kritiek.
@rugbyman: stem saam dit is nie teen die reels, maar daar word wel vrae gevra oor beinvloeding. Kan nie kommentaar lewer oor trant of aard van die gesprek vandag, maar tog altyd beter om die seuns die sake te laat hamteer.
Ek is seker julle sal selfs meer kompeterend met die volgende wedstryd wees en kan ook wen. My kommentaar hier bo gaan nie oor Julle goeie sisteme, goed afgerigte spanne en talentvolle kinders nie, maar eerder oor wat op die dag gebeur het (obviously uit my oogpunt). Moet se ander manne in onttrek en met gesprekke het dit selfde ervaar.
Indien hierdie tipe kommentaar gelewer word na ‘n verloor klink dit net na suur druiwe. Neem daaruit wat Julle wil (uitgesluit skeidsregter kommentaar, wat na Unies gaan).
@BrotherBear: Moenie maak of julle nie imports het nie. Jou hele skool is imports – almal weet dit. Maar ons sal dit nou begin indril.
Sies, ouens soos jy gee enige skool en enige land ‘n slegte naam!
Dit is darrem warrem hier op King’s Park vanaand
Sjoe… die ref is rerig besig om die Kings te boor….
@Orbit: I won’t go into detail re the ref, as it’ll come across as sour grapes. They aren’t perfect, so one must accept the ups with the downs. Let’s rather focus on the excellent Jeppe team, which would’ve beaten us no matter who reffed the game.
You certainly have a lot if depth in your backs. I hope that none of the injuries from today will keep any of your players out of the Affies game next week? When will the 9 and 8 be back? What is the feeling in the school re your chances v Affies? Apart from their losses v HJS and GCB, they’ve murdered all other opposition. I’m sure that the physicality of Affies will be many steps up from St Alban’s. That said, I watched your 2014 team withstand a very physical Monnas team for most of the game and nearly cause an upset. Good luck.
@BrotherBear: ‘n lid van die afrigtingspan mag vir die ref halftyd iets vra… nie teen die reels nie
@Vastrap: van waar is jy ou maat?
Real pity how bloggers from a specific school can make you turn against them.
@rugbyman: van wanneer af praat ‘n lid van die afrigting span met die skeidsregter gedurende halftyd? Julle moet tog die kaptein vertrou om die sakies aan te spreek, of hoe?
@BrotherBear: mmmmm jy is ongelooflik eenogig… sjoe
Askies almal… Garsies was nie op die veld nie… as dit nie vir die ref was nie het helpies met 60 gewen… helpmekaar het foutloos gespeel en hulle seuns het alles binne die reels gedoen… hulle toeskouer het hulself onbersipelik gedra en nooit nie eers binne die 1ste drie minute op hom geskree en gevloek nie… die strafskop telling was 24 – 2 in garsies se guns… daar het julle noi die feite…
@Vastrap: Bravo Vastrap
@Brotherbear jy is ‘n verleentheid vir ander Helpies. Gedra jou met die waardigheid wat pas by die gemeenskap van ‘n goeie privaatskool. Verloor waardig en wen met meer waardigheid.
@pietretief, @VaskopVleuel: wil Julle oens dan nie weet wat werklik gebeur het nie? Moet ek nou stilbly omdat een span gewen het?
Ek is regtig ge-irriteerd met swak skeidsregters en swak sportmanskap (geniepsigheid en vuil spel).
@BrotherBear: Het jy dit toe darrem veilig huistoe gemaak daar in Mayfair?
@Speartackle: het nie geweet jy kan ook “cut and paste” nie. Ag nee wat, bietjie meer oorspronklikheid.
Wat my die meeste laat lag is ons het met n volwassene (ek hoop so) wat darem met 2 r’e spel (darrem)
Lol….darrem….Darrem Scott
@rugbyman: swak taalgebruik is nie verskoonbaar, maar o liewe vadertjie, daardie Leeu skeidsregter was swak. Kyk maar na video ou maat. Tussen die toekouers op die hoof pawiljoen, knus tussen my familie en vriende, was die wense ook maar dat die man eerder voorskoolse wedstryde moet gaan blaas – ag nee man. Mens soek tog ‘n gelyke speelveld.
Julle O/16’s het werklik goed gespeel en verdien om ver te wen, met ‘n baie goeie skeidsregter..
@BrotherBear: Janee… sjoe… ek het al geleer om met nederigheid te wen en te verloor soos n man… baie jare in rugby het my dit geleer… sterkte vir die seisoen!
Hierdie Helpmekaar ouers en ondersteuners is darem maar n klomp arrogante en verwaande lot. Jammerte want hulle doen afbreuk aan die kinders se goeie spel. Maar dit kom maar gewoonlik van sulkes wat nie gewoond is aan wen nie. Gaan seker maar die hele lewe lank so met pappie en nou kom seuna en hy presteer….dit is nie n rare verskynsel…dit kom gereeld voor……vanjaar net dikwels daar naby Kapteijnstraat
Gee….gee….gee…….Gee jou hart vir…….Hillbrow
Dink iemand moet vir Helpies se haker ‘n Oscar gee vir sy aansit op die veld. Om net so neer te slaan op die veld en besering te fake, paar minute tyd te steel en dan openlik te lag oor sy eie patetiese optrede wys maar net wat se nar hy is. Gelukkig is hy nou klaar met skole rugby.
Sien julle later in Pretoria!
@Vleis: Haha regarding the ref a certain try was disallowed from Jeppe
But I’ll take your word for it.
@Rugbyman, @Djou: Met 900 seuns EN imports kla Julle oor ‘n halwe span. Hoe moet julle instaan manne voel – is hulle nie goed genoeg nie? Dink paar van hierdie instaan manne sal die ander ouens uit die span hou, ne. Glad nie windgat ou maat – ek call dit soos dit is.
@Djou, @akw: Sterkte met Julle sielkundige sessies die volgende paar weke – Garsies en Grey verloor op een dag. Seker maand van rou in Bfn op die koop toe. Relax, dis net ‘n game ouens – verwag darrem gelyke speelveld, of hoe?
@akw: my vorige kommentaar oor Julle skrum vermoe is toe reg. selfs met die BB 0/19 haker het Julle gesukkel.
@Vleis: The second team backline has had a reshuffle recently due to a few injuries in the 1st etc, so was great to see them run the ball like that. The second team flyhallf has also played 1st all season and thought he enjoyed the extra space at second team level.
What I liked about St Albans today is they never sat back and when they got the ball they really tried to play and did so effectively, Also I thought the Jeppe Backs tried to penetrate often but the St Albans backs did superbly in defense. I must however say that Jeppe had a lot of breaks that they never finished today when they are usually a bit better there, but a lot of that came from the tenacity of the St Albans defense. They were full value and made it a great game. Jeppe did miss the influence of their captain (9) and dayimane (8) who were injured. Im sure St Albans were also missing many players though!
Physically it will be one of Jeppe’s toughest games. Hats off to St Albans. All the best, you have a great chance against KES.
@BrotherBear: Ek is ongelukkig nie so nice soos Rugbyman nie.
Om te praat van vele o.19’s wys hoe min jy regtig weet.
Maar ouens soos jy versprei die gerugte en dan glo almal dit en dan is ouens soos jy hoogs tevrede dat julle met leuens persepsies verander.
Sulke tipe mense is heelwaarskynlik ondersteuners van korrupsie en is dan uit die veld geslaan wanneer hulle uitgevang word.
En rugby is ‘n fisiese game – of wat het jy verwag?
Is jy teleurgesteld omdat Helpies nie ‘n halwe eerstespan verder kon wen nie? Seker maar, anders sou jy nie soos ‘n malletjie te kere gaan oor ‘n skeidsregter nie – en nogal een wat van julle kontrei aangestel is.
Terloops, daar was ook ‘n blogger wat voorheen “calls” gemaak het dat ‘n span met minstens 40 punte moes wen, en in die herontmoeting het die span met 20 punte verloor.
So, hou maar aan met jou windgat houding. Dit kom gewoonlik terug om mens te byt – iewers in jou lewe!
31-14 to Kearsney. Fantastic first half for the One-Stripes. They slacked off a bit in the second. But a great win nonetheless #Hounds
“Humble in victory” is duidelik nie ‘n leuse in Hillbrow nie…
@BrotherBear: goeie ondersteuner vat sy wen teen die groot skole met n smile en hou sy bek……maar duidelik is jy aan niks gewoont nie.
@Rugbyman: watter manne het nie gespeel nie
@Speartackle, @Andre T: lyk my jou aftrede by die kus het jou bietjie afgestomp – of miskien was jy nog maar altyd net vol wind. indien jy ‘n betting man is, het jy nou baie geld verloor op daai oningeligte call dat Garsies sou wen. Miskien moet jy ophou k.k praat en wedstryde bywoon voor jy kommentaar lewer.
@Orbit: Yes, your are correct. Sorry about that.
I thought that the ref was very, very much in favour of Jeppe, but we had the better of the calls at Jeppe last year, so I suppose it evens out.
It also didn’t help that we emptied our bench with 5 minutes to go, as we completely lost structure, so you started running through us like a knife through warm butter, which hadn’t happened up to then. We simply do not have the depth that Jeppe has, as is evidenced by the hammering that our 2nd team suffered. After getting back from Bloem at 11pm last Sat and then having a massive game v Boys High on Wed, I think the coach wanted to prevent any more injuries before KES next weekend.
Although the scoreline got ugly at the end, I think the Jeppe boys will know that they were in a tough game, as is evidenced by the large number of them that left the field injured.
Your 2nd team backline looks better than most of the 1st team backlines that I’ve seen.
@BrotherBear: vir jou inligting, ons het slegs een o19 gehad… ons het wel heelparty spelers wat nie beskikbaar was nie, 6 om presies te wees… in julle eenogige opinie het die ref julle bevoordeel, maar alhoewel ons nooit die ref bevraafteken het nie moet jy op 4 dinge let:
1: ek dink julle flanke kom met moord weg by die breakdowns en n beter ref soos jy dit stel sal julle dalk nog meer gestraf het… hulle is eenvoidig nooit op hulle voete nie en laat geen “daylight” toe voor hulle die bal probeer steel nie
2: ons sien geweldig uit na die 2de game teen julle met ons volle span
3: ek neem dan aan jy was een van die groot instigators agter die tegniese tafel wat die ref gevloek het vd kantlyn af… ek hoop nie so nie… om die ref n d@@s te noem vd kant af is darem ook nie aan nie… ek het julle manne uitgeluister, en met die grootste respek n paar van daai manne het geen benul vd reels nie… ek het nou meer perspektief op jou gesanik oor die refs – ek vermoed julle ondersteuners moet n reel seminaar gaan bywoon…. elke liewe beslissing teen helpies was bevraagteken deur julle…
4: ek vermoed die geniepsigheid was maar van beide kante af… maar as jy ons seuns wil uitsonder – eat you heart out
Weereens geluk met die wen! Ons maak geen verskonings nie… Julle het dit verdien want julle elke kans wat julle gekry het gebruik… Geniet hom… onthou egter my woorde… we will be back! Ons wag vir julle in pta…
College 14-31 kearsney
@Vleis: St Albans played their hearts out. But it was 3 tries to 2 at that stage.. Jeppe scored 6 tries in the end.
@Rugbyman: Die Helpie vs Garsies eerste span game was kliphard. Julle manne het hulle lywe op die spel geplaas en regtig hard probeer. Fisikaliteit was soms onnodig en het in geniepsigheid omgeskakel, maar dis seker maar hoe julle probeer domineer. Dominance was egter aan Helpies se kant met goed gedissiplineerde spel. Julle vele O/19’s het wel verskil gemaak maar Julle skrums was in trurat.
Sien uit na herontmoeting oor paar weke. Speel veld dan hopelik meer gelyk met ‘n baie beter skeidsregter. Julle is ongelooflike bevoordeel met die afbreek punt calls, omkant strafskoppe en hele paar late tackles. Helpies moes met ten minste 30 punte gewen het.
Baie geluk helpies! Julle het goed gespeel… sien julle na die vakansie!
MHS 55 – 6 St Charles
Wow EG Jansen makes a serious statement in their first match for the Beeld trophy 2016 to Makro schools contenders.
@Rugbymal: I could not attempt this game today, but oh boy, I did not expect this massacre to happen between EG Jansen and Kempton park. Wonder what hapenned here?
Zwartkop 11 – 7 Eldoraigne. Geluk Zwarries. As Eldo so speel gaan hulle geen verdere wedstryde hierdie jaar wen nie. Swak Eldoraigne swak. Niks meer om te sê nie.
@knowthegame: good result for Helpies. Looks like the year not.going well for Garsies.
Final Score Helpmekaar 24 – 17 Garsfontein
Dark day for rugby in the Valke region if your top team wins 2nd best team with 60 points.
EGJ 83 Kempton 14
St Albans were 20 to 10 down (2 tries each) v Jeppe with 6 minutes to go, but wilted at the end and lost by 39 to 10. The tough Wednesday fixture v Boys High did not help.
Good win for Westville against Northwood 48-10
Interesting Reading ……Grondwethof sê oor Gauteng se skooltoelatingsbeleid http://maroelamedia.co.za/nuus/sa-nuus/grondwethof-se-oor-gauteng-se-skooltoelatingsbeleid/
@BrotherBear: Shit ja, is 12:15. Ek het gedink aan die MP games volgende week.
@knowthegame, @akw: lyk my dis 12h15 afskop, Hilbrow tyd. Weet nie hoe laat dit dan in Pta is ;-).
@Luvthegame: @Luvthegame Not sure the aura surrounding the Goldstones thing still exists, given the results in recent times.
@knowthegame: 13:00
@BrotherBear: hoe laat speel 1 ste span-games in hillbrow,korrek
@Rugbyman: Laaste ding wat ons sal doen is om ‘n Garsies span te onderskat. Weet julle gaan kom met “all guns blazing”. Met kids wat Dinsdag weer teen mekaar gaan meeding in Leeus vs Bulle sal paar seker bietjie versigtiger speel.
Julle is lankal nie meer die underdogs. Heeltemal te veel “scalps” daarvoor.
Op dag gaan dit lekker kompeterend wees.
Sterkte vir al die spanne more. Mag sportmanskap seevier.
@Rugbyman ek dink Garsies is die gunstelinge more en beskik oor die diepte om een of twee spelers wat nie kan speel nie met gemak te vervang. Die laaste paar wedstryde van die Helpies was nie teen spanne op Garsies se vlak nie so dit gaan ‘n groot poging verg as die Helpies genoeg goeie bal wil hê om mee te werk teen ‘n span wat op die Wildeklawer kon meeding. Verwag ‘n titaniese stryd.
@Valkie:
Hoop regtig Middelburg Hoerskool bly Makro.. al sukkel hul eerstes hierdie jaar.. het hul 0/14’s en 0/16’s gewen verlede naweek teen HTS.. So daar is weer iets in die pyplyn vir hul
@Randy @Riempies groot dag more met al die feestelikhede rondom die Helpies. Baie sterkte dis ‘n lekker groot wedstryd wat altyd sorg vir groot opwinding en harde rugby. Ek glo die Helpies gaan sterk staan teen die baie hoog aangeskrewe Garsies. Sien uit on te sien wat daai juniors ook kan doen more.
Star Garsfontein player suspended for 6 weeks. Any reason known?
@Rugbyman:
Gaan klipharde game wees!!!
Klink vir my soos n ambush!
Geniet hom manne
@Riempies: Janee… met al ons beserings is julle verseker favourites! En dan is dit nog daar by julle ook! Geniet hom! Hopelik sal ons in ons 2de game na die vakansie weer al ons manne terug hê en sal ons n beter match vir julle wees…
@jakes: agge nee… toe nou… julle gaan kempton n helse pak gee… jy weet dit en ek weet dit…
The big East rand derby happening this weekend. EG Jansen vs Kempton Park. OnE of the biggest on their yearly calenders. Kempies looked better and better last few Saturdays. Their last encounter against Eldoraigne was a tough one and gave Eldos a very big surprise and onslaught. If EG Jansen does not come with their A game, Kempies might pull if a surprise
@LAEVELDER: Ek stem saam met jou dat dit sal ‘close’ wees, maar ek glo ons sal wen. JC is een van daardie seuns wat regtig in enige span ‘n reuse bydrae maak. Onthou egter die gesegde dat een swaeltjie nie ‘n somer maak nie.
…en ek sê dit tong in die kies. Nellies self het ook manne wat oral op die veld lastig kan raak.
Twee dinge wat Nellies na gaan moet kyk is hoe hulle losskrums gaan speel en hulle algemene verdediging. In amper al die games was daar tye wat hulle konsentrasie verloor het en dit het hulle sover elke keer duur gekos.
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It is very rare to find a school boy with the experience of HTS Middelburg captain JC Pretorius as the young man has already donned the Springbok emblem on his heart.
Pretorius represented the Junior BlitzBoks (Springbok Sevens Under-18) in Samoa and returned from that tournament with a gold medal around his neck. Over and above that, he has played in the 2014 Grant Khomo Week as well as the 2015 Craven Week.
“Having played in the Grant Khomo Week, the Craven Week and having represented South Africa at U-18 Sevens level, the one thing that stands out to me is that when you return to your school, you always return a better player.
@Valkie: Ek dink nogsteeds dit gaan n harde close game wees. Die twee spanne het teen 3 selfde opponente gespeel Kempton, EG Jansen en Pietersburg. Nellies se totaal is 104 teen 77 (of 35/25 average),,, HTS se netto is beter 100 teen 55 (of 33/18).. As die Rhinos vir JC kan in toom hou het ons n beter kans. Dink JC is een van die beste loosies in die land en sal gatskop teen die beste van die bestes.. ek sidder om hom te sien speel in n groter pak forwards wat domineer.. imagine hy is in n agttal soos Monnas of Affies… scarry stuff!
@LAEVELDER: Aan die begin van die seisoen sou ek ook gesê het dat ek onseker is dat ons HTS kan wen. Ek is nou egter seker dat ons hulle kan klop en ek sê dit sonder om windgat of arrogant te wees. Op hierdie oomblik het ons net te veel skietgoed, en die seuns speel goeie rugby.
Ek stem saam met jou dat Middelburg Hoër op hierdie oomblik erg sukkel, en ek wonder hoe lank hulle nog Makrorugby gaan speel? Die sal jammer wees as dit net Nellies en HTS is wat oorbly as Makro Skole in Mpumalanga, en dis ook ‘n bekommernis……want waarheen dan?
Ek sien Eldoraigne het teen HTS John Vorster verloor………nogal n verrassing
@Valkie:
Hoop maar jy is reg met die NHS vs HTS. Altyd n klipharde game.. terloops ons skuld die Rooies vir laasjaar se 10-12 en 33-35 close losses in Middelburg. Ek dink van 2010 tot nou was 9 uit die 10 games baie close met grootste margin 10 punte.. en 5 van die games tussen 1 en 6 punte verskil.Belangrike game vir altwee.. wenner sal n tuis Puma einstryd he teen mekaar (Middies nie so sterk die jaar).. en Puma champ sal waarskynlik n ietwat makliker game he in eerste uitspeel/kwarteind. Garsie/Helpies game te close om te call so ook Grey/Boishaai… maar ek sal glo die tuis spanne kan hom edge
Few scores for the weekend
Jeppe by 16
Garsfontein by 13
Affies by 40
Monnas by 19
EG by 17
Nelspruit by 7
Boishaai by 1
@Luvthegame: agreed !! Going to be a tough game , I believe both sides missing some key players … Probably the two best running rugby sides in KZN this year … Should be a cracker !!
@Luvthegame: Think Helpmekaar kan beat Garsfontein. The rest I agree with.
@Valkie: Agree with all of them except one…College on Goldstones is always a tough task for anyone. Ask Grey College from last year when they scraped through by a point. Kearsney would be the form team but stranger things have happened on a Staurday afternoon. Enjoy the rugby this weekend…
Kom ons waag ‘n bietjie met voorspellings, sonder om houe te slaan. Dis maar ‘gut feel’ vir my.
Wenne vir:
Kearsney; Jeppe; Garsfontein; Affies; Monument; EG Jansen, Nelspruit; Pietersburg; Ben Vorster; Grey College; Outeniqua.
Sterkte vir al die spanne, en ons hoop vir geen erenstige beserings nie.