| u18 CRAVEN WEEK | u18 ACADEMY WEEK | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | G. Nelani | Northwood | 1 | M. King | Maritzburg College |
| 2 | D. Richardson | Kearsney | 2 | H. Prinsloo | Westville |
| 3 | R. Van Rooyen | Glenwood | 3 | L. Cele | Glenwood |
| 4 | J.J. Van Der Mescht | Glenwood | 4 | R. Dafel | Durban High School |
| 5 | J. Meyer | Kearsney | 5 | M. Bauer | Glenwood |
| 6 | L. Crowshaw | Kearsney | 6 | S. Mkhaliphi | Durban High School |
| 7 | P. Buthelezi | Durban High School | 7 | D. Atembe | Maritzburg College |
| 8 | J. Miller | Kearsney | 8 | C. Glover | Maritzburg College |
| 9 | S. Nohamba | Durban High School | 9 | G. Hunt | Glenwood |
| 10 | A.B. Curtis | Hilton | 10 | D. Gutu | Michaelhouse |
| 11 | G. J. Lubbe | Glenwood | 11 | A. Duma | Maritzburg College |
| 12 | M. Maduna | Glenwood | 12 | C. Le Fleur | Glenwood |
| 13 | M. Holtzhausen | Glenwood | 13 | N. Mjara | Maritzburg College |
| 14 | T. Nduzo | Durban High School | 14 | L. Mngadi | Northwood |
| 15 | C. Zondeki | Durban High School | 15 | D. Kruger | Glenwood |
| 16 | F. Mbatha | Maritzburg College | 16 | B. Schwultz | Glenwood |
| 17 | Q. Vorster | Glenwood | 17 | P. Zuma | Maritzburg College |
| 18 | A. Zandamela | Clifton | 18 | A. Reintges | Maritzburg College |
| 19 | D. Weiderman | Glenwood | 19 | N. Nkosi | George Campbell |
| 20 | A. Brummer | Glenwood | 20 | J. O’Neill | Glenwood |
| 21 | S. Dubazane | Glenwood | 21 | W. Ngubane | George Campbell |
| 22 | C. Ritchie | Kearsney | 22 | G. Coetzee | Durban High School |
| 23 | O. Jiba | Durban High School | 23 | J.C. Conradie | Glenwood |
| u18 KZN CD | u16 GRANT KHOMO WEEK | ||||
| 1 | L. Sangweni | Sarel Cilliers | 1 | J. Clarke | Glenwood |
| 2 | Z. Mnguni | Sarel Cilliers | 2 | J. Thyssen | Glenwood |
| 3 | T. Rioga | Ferrum | 3 | S. Dube | Maritzburg College |
| 4 | K. Johnson | Sarel Cilliers | 4 | L. Ncube | Glenwood |
| 5 | M. Erlank | Pongola | 5 | D. Slabbert | Westville |
| 6 | M. Fuhri | Pionier | 6 | A. Mnguni | Durban High School |
| 7 | M. Pistorius | Grantleigh | 7 | L. Barnard | Glenwood |
| 8 | E. Potgieter | Pionier | 8 | C. Gumede | Durban High School |
| 9 | K. Hlengwa | John Ross College | 9 | J. Hendrickse | Glenwood |
| 10 | H. Vreken | Pionier | 10 | D. Pretorius | Glenwood |
| 11 | B. Momina | Vryheid | 11 | S. Cele | Glenwood |
| 12 | M. Nhlozi | John Ross College | 12 | R. Jonker | Glenwood |
| 13 | A. Holder | Ferrum | 13 | L. Menze | Durban High School |
| 14 | B. Ngubane | Ixopo | 14 | L. Larue | Glenwood |
| 15 | M. Mazibuko | Development | 15 | N. Mkhwananzi | Westville |
| 16 | W. Gilbert | Ashton | 16 | R. Brynhard | Glenwood |
| 17 | T. Kunene | Development | 17 | M. Gumede | Durban High School |
| 18 | S. Nzimande | Sarel Cilliers | 18 | T. Mdletshe | Glenwood |
| 19 | R. Fourie | Ferrum | 19 | N. Taljaard | Hilton |
| 20 | L. Nyirenda | Eshowe | 20 | G. Luzolo | Glenwood |
| 21 | D. Meintjies | Richards Bay | 21 | G. Schreuder | Hilton |
| 22 | J. Lindeque | Pionier | 22 | D. Fisher | Michaelhouse |
| 23 | S. Upfold | Grantleigh | 23 | A. Kunene | Durban High School |
Just a interesting fact on the CW Team; From the 23 chosen 12 had never been in the loop wrt GK/CW/AW or SA HP. somewhere things dont add up. From the AW side there are 13 players with the same status. What I am getting to we need to have some consistency when identifying and selecting players at u16 level and develop them through to CW. Yes we have late bloomers but go and have a look at the other provinces and their hit ratio from converting u16-18 in terms of selection is way better than 50%. The Bulls already start showing interest in boys at u16. Whilst we only start looking at u18. If we invest more then we will have a stronger interest in converting and improving the players. Take nothing away from the boys selected and well done……
Anyone got the U13 Craven week team of this group?
@BoishaaiPa: Great thanks.
@Grasshopper: Parking always a headache at Piley Rees…tough to get my little Toyota around those German SUVs
@Playa: The Markotter is great, make sure you try get there. Bishops Piley Rees is another to get to.
@Playa: Nope..Markotter tickets is sold at the gate ..cheap..R5 or R10..Parking around the venue just a problem so its better to park up at the school and walk down to Markotter. It a short distance anyway..half a block! It’s only Interschools tickets for Faure street that is pre sold. All other school matches are walk-ins. If you havent been to Markotter before, this is the perfect opportunity!
@BoishaaiPa: I’m going to need some pants so I can hog the remote for 4 straight hours.It might be safer to take a drive to Stellenbosch straight after the Durban derby.Are Markotter tickets pre sold like they are in Brug?
@BoishaaiPa: Yep, so you guys are playing later than usual and we are playing earlier just to fit in with TV schedules. But just shows how big school rugga is getting when you have a few games televised on a Sat. Bloody Super Gemors Rugga is getting so boring and complicated, it needs to go back to Super 10 days where it was strength vs strength. Even if we drop out of SANZAR and play the French clubs. We have so many Saffas in France away games for some will be coming home…
@Grasshopper: Not to mention Paarl Boys is playing Paul Roos at 14h00 also on TV…
@Speartackle: Checked with a DHSOB mate, he reckons the game is at midday to fit in with the TV Schedule. Also, there are numerous games on Friday afternoon to ensure the 1st team game can be played earlier, so makes sense. Great to see DHS putting out 5 Under14 sides and up to a 5th team in the Opens. Much better and closer to what we used to from them. Going to be humdingers in the upper games. My DHSOB dad will be smiling from up in heaven..
@Speartackle: meant oldest derby in Durban not Glenwood…
@Speartackle: yep, it’s on Classic Clashes. Oldest derby in Glenwood since 1921, so 95 years isn’t too bad. A proper derby, not a plastic new one….
@Grasshopper: DHS vs Glenwood on tv?
@Speartackle: midday opposite Musgrave Centre, but on TV too
@Grasshopper: I can’t open that link…..just 2 boys staring at each other and blank at the bottom. What time is the main game?
@Rugger fan: 3 people were responsible for me getting started running back just before the rinderpest, Bill Payne and this story, Bruce Fordyce running up Polly Shorts in 1983, and Alan Robb. Bill’s a genuine legend. See you on Thursday.
@burra: I was also of the opinion that Wayne was a sure thing for Craven Week but his final trials game was not good. They made 4 changes to the probable side, namely Tight Head, Loose Head, scrumhalf and Flyhalf and the team got no traction at all. The scrum was on the retreat and the backline failed to fire even when they got the occasional good ball. In my opinion, to many box kicks from Wayne but he wasn’t as slick as the DHS 9 that made it. I didn’t take note too much of the other candidates but both were Glenwood
@Grasshopper: In boardshorts,slops and billabong t-shirts im sure.
@Gungets Tuft: Hope he’ll make a turn at the DHS/MC OB function on Thursday
@Rugger fan: And Bill’s grandson graduated College last year with my son. Was to be found at College last weekend sucking on a bitterly cold Windhoek at the Bowls club. I was at College with his son-in-law who was a bit ahead of me. Will remain un-named
@Playa: hahah, must be WP cameramen & producers
@Grasshopper: Is the game being played in the Western Cape?
@Speartackle: Looks like the main game is early at midday, probably due to lack of fixtures from DHS and the staggers; http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/sites/default/files/Sport%20vs%20DHS%20May%202016%20-%20Round%202%20(3).pdf
About the team selections. One thing that hasn’t sat well with me is the fact that Wayne Ngubane only managed to make the AW bench. Yet he has been very consistent this season. And he also had a good game in the final round. I rated him to make the Craven Week side. Any views?
@Rugger fan:
@Rugger fan: amazing story and what an incredible man! Love his recollection of his “up run” – I wonder how much license he took – but hilarious nonetheless
The Comrades Marathon has become a world class sporting event which attracts the leading long distance runners from countries all over the world. The first race was a down run from Pietermaritzburg whilst the first up run from Durban to the provincial capital took place in 1922 and consisted of a field of just over 100 athletes. The runner who came in eighth, was two years later to receive his Springbok rugby colours playing in the forward pack against the touring British Isles side. More remarkably was the fact that he never trained for the Comrades relying on his natural ability, and to have a greater challenge he did not make use of running shoes, preferring to complete the event in heavy rugby boots on his feet. In those days the Comrades took place on mainly sand and gravel roads.
This Springbok rugby player was Bill Payn, who in fact, played provincial rugby over a period of eighteen seasons losing four years whilst serving overseas in the First World War. He did have the opportunity then of representing South Africa in the Imperial Services Tournament held in Britain before returning home. In all, he represented Natal in fifty nine matches. Bill had a natural affinity for all games and excelled at every branch of sport that he became interested in, so much so, that he attained his provincial colours in five sports, represented Natal at cricket, boxing, baseball and athletics in addition to his main sport of rugby. However sport was but one of his interests, being recognised as an outstanding English scholar and a leading South African expert at the time in the science of Etymology, being the study of words and their origins.
Bill Payn played in two tests on the flank in the 1924 series but later after his own playing days were over he was to have an important role in the development of a post World War Two Springbok rugby legend.
The central point of this story however is his running of the Comrades Marathon and the unusual manner in which he achieved his success. Bill Payn later spoke about the run and an abridged version of that day goes as follows, `On a bleak May morning I toe’d the line at the start when some civic dignitary fired a pistol and then very sensibly buggared off back to his warm bed. When the shot rent the air, off we sped – like a crowd of Armenian refugees fleeing from the wrath of the Turkish army. Shall I ever forget that infernal run. It was not very long before I realised that I was prey to an all consuming thirst, so clamant indeed, that I could not refuse any man who offered me a drink. At Hillcrest my feet were giving me so much pain that I took off my rugby boots and found a mass of blisters had formed on the soles of both feet, some kind follower provided me with brilliantine with which I anointed my feet and then repaired to the hotel for a huge plate of bacon and eggs. This done and much refreshed I ran up Botha’s Hill where at the top I found a friend who was also taking part, but he was in a very bad state so we sat down next to the road and exchanged notes and took stock of ourselves and the situation we were in. I fear that we did not move with the freedom of young athletes but rather resembled two old ducks, suffering from some distressing gynaecological disorder.
Fortunately at that stage my friend’s supporter arrived on the scene with a wicker basket which contained a delicious curried chicken set on a huge bed of rice. This we shared equally and then set off together in happy companionship for Drummond and here we bent our steps to a pleasant oasis – the pub – where I lined a dozen beers up on the counter determined not so much to celebrate a victory but rather to drown our sorrows. Whilst we were busy at this, one of the camp followers arrived on the scene and urged us both to continue as there were only five runners in front of us. My friend could not continue so I set off alone for Pietermaritzburg. Somewhere along Harrison Flats I noticed a frail little woman with pink cheeks standing at the side of the road. She held up in one hand a bottle and in the other a glass. I stopped, and with old world courtesy bowed low saying `Madame your servant to command’. `Tis peach brandy’, she volunteered, `and I made it myself’. I gulped down a full tumbler of this home-made brew and in a second realised that I had swallowed a near-lethal dose of the rawest liquid I had ever tasted. I am still convinced that to this charming little woman must go full credit for inventing the first liquid fuel for jet engines. Fortunately I was facing Maritzburg and I was propelled along the way. I was too far gone in my cups even to ponder on whether this assistance did not breach the prescribed laws of amateur marathon running. On the outskirts of Pietermaritzburg I was hailed by wife’s family who were taking tea on the veranda. I went off the road and joined them in their tea and cakes. While we were thus happily engaged, two of my `hated’ rivals went past and so it was that I ended the course number eight. In the changing rooms I discovered that the soles of my feet were now two huge pads of blood blisters. My brother-in-law then arrived and he had the uncanny insight to my most immediate needs, for he gave me a bottle of champagne, for which I was most grateful. Shortly thereafter a rugby friend arrived and chided me as to whether I had forgotten that I was due to play a first league rugby match the next day and that our team needed me. Cadging a lift on the back of his motorbike we went back down to Durban and on the following day I played full back in a pair of old `tackies’.
This account by Bill Payn does not appear possible but it has been vouched for in every detail by Arthur Newton, another friend who was himself destined to become a legend in the world of marathon running, particularly in the Comrades. Bill’s time for the up run was .It was indeed a remarkable achievement by a remarkable man. His description of the race is filled with humour which so characterised his outlook on life. To illustrate this aspect there is a classic story told of Bill when he was captaining his club’s first cricket side in the premier league and they were not having a very good season with the bat. He placed an advertisement in the local Natal newspaper which read, – Join Stanford Hill and bat twice on a Saturday afternoon.
Of all his sporting interests, rugby was to remain his greatest love and he devoted many years of his life to the administration of the sport, coaching young players in the enjoyment of the game. He was the founder of Natal schools rugby and became a father figure to organisation serving on its executive from 1933 – with a gap for the war years – right through until he passed away in 1959. It is interesting to note his thoughts on the game of rugby and why people are keen to play the game. Quoting him again `Why do men love to play rugby, is I feel sure, that it is the simulacrum – in simple terms it means an image of – of war as waged in the medieval days when battles were marked by the two cardinal virtues of courtesy and courage’.
His very close friend and fellow schoolmaster, Isak Van Heerden, who was to become the Springbok coach in the 1960’s,commenting on Bills outlook on the game said `He looked upon the game as a friendly and controlled war, feeling that man still has his primitive instincts and one of the strongest is the love of a good fight, which no amount of civilisation has been able to eradicate. Bill saw the game merely as a natural desire of a healthy man to pit his strength and skill against that of another and that rugby was the best possible outlet. He worshipped the game for the companionship amongst friends and for the opportunities that it allowed for comaradieship with opponents after the match was over’.
Bill Payn was very much a man of Natal being educated at Maritzburg College and after qualifying as a teacher spent much of his working career teaching at Durban High School for Boys, but in 1939,at the age of forty six he once again set off for war serving as a gunner in North Africa. Whilst in action in the Western Desert he was awarded the Military Medal, receiving a personally signed letter of commendation from the Commander-in- Chief of the Allied Forces, General Alexander.
Later in the campaign the Allied troops were forced to retreat from Gazala back towards El Alamein. With the German Army closing in around them Bill made two desperate efforts to escape but was captured on each occasion, imprisoned first at Benghazi in Libya, where he was struck down with acute dysentery and his weight dropped from just over his normal of two hundred and thirty pounds to under one hundred and fifteen pounds. It took a long time but he eventually recovered and was transferred across the Mediterranean to a P. O. W. camp near Rome.
Bill’s strength of character was such that he looked on prison life as a challenge refusing to be restricted and to quote him again `Life is always life if one can laugh and that captivity is what your heart makes of it.’. He accepted the conditions of imprisonment refusing to acknowledge their limitations, preferring to see in them an opportunity for fulfilment, the enrichment of character and to be of service to his fellow prisoners.
Using his ability in developing mental pursuits he kept many of his fellow inmates highly amused and was in great demand as a speaker with a range of subjects stretching from discussing the complete works of Shakespeare, a set of which he had with him in camp, to his talk on whales and their habits which was also a great favourite. He continued to teach, and was again in demand, conducting classes for those Prisoner’s of War who were taking correspondence courses. A fellow prisoner wrote of him that his most outstanding characteristic was his unquestionable spirit which knew no bounds. Although he was no longer a young man, when the Italian war effort collapsed, Bill and two companions managed to escape into the mountains of Italy and were on the run for over two weeks, diverting enemy troops from the front, to search for them. Eventually they were recaptured by German troops and sent to prison camps first in Austria, then Poland and eventually to Germany itself.
Whilst he was busy keeping the spirits of his fellow prisoners up intellectually, his love of sport also played an important role in their well being with Bill forever arranging rugby and cricket matches, even teaching the prisoners from the other Allied nations the art of jukskei!. It was while they were in a prison camp at Thorn in Poland which contained an equal number of young New Zealanders and South Africans crazy about their rugby that Bill Payn’s organisational ability was shown off at its very best. A rugby ball was received through the good offices of the Red Cross organisation and Bill proposed a series of `test’ matches between the rugby worlds greatest rivals. He roped in two able assistants, Peter Pienaar, the son of the 1921 Springbok captain to New Zealand and Billy Millar Jnr, whose father led the 1912/13 Springboks to the U. K. With Bill Payn as the driving force, they arranged practices and made up the jerseys, and served on the `Springbok’ selection panel. The making Springbok jerseys is a story in itself, with Red Cross vests being boiled together with the olive green Russian battledress which were freely available, to obtain the green. The gold was more problematical but an ingenious solution was found, the S. A. Medical staff boiled up a solution of anti-malaria tablets to achieve the right result. It was important to look the part. The rugby field was marked off with yellow clay lines on the vast sandy parade ground and with army boots considered too lethal, the players played with bare feet in the middle of the Polish winter.
It was during this period that Bill, so the legend goes, came across a young South African from Johannesburg who had been playing for the Pirates club before the war. He was a strong, talented prop forward who also had a useful boot on him. Bill encouraged him to work hard at this aspect of his game whilst stuck in the P. O. W. camp and to concentrate on his accuracy with his place kicking. The young soldier was none other than `Okey Geffin’ who five years later was to become a legend in the annals of South African rugby as well as an immense thorn in the flesh of the 1949 All Black side under Fred Allen. In the first test at Newlands when South Africa fielded fifteen new caps, because of the war Okey Geffin he kicked all fifteen points, setting a record in the process. The final score was a win for the Springboks 15 points to eleven. In the Third test of the series at Durban Okey was again responsible for all the Springboks points in a close contest which we won by nine points to three.
This is the only series in which a clean sweep of four wins to nil was achieved against New Zealand. Two years later, Geffin, was a member of Basil Kenyon’s highly successful side to the United Kingdom and he was the top point scorer with eighty nine points scored in thirteen appearances. The Springboks only lost one match on this tour of thirty one matches in little over five months. They won their five tests including the massacre of Scotland at Murrayfield by 44 poins to nil
But reverting to Bill Payn This is his story and it started with his personal description of his Comrades Marathon run which reflected both his humour and his tenacity. It was his friend, Izak van Heerden who perhaps summed Bill up best of all when he said, `He was always seeing a humorous situation and playing upon it. He was a merry companion, a real friend and a great champion of the game of rugby’.
@Rugger fan: running Comrades in rugby boots – struth – is he nuts
@Grasshopper:
Swat the Fly
@Speartackle: looks like it’s an away fixture, so at DHS. Not the same atmosphere but should still be good. Eish, worries me even more….
@Rugger fan: Hopefully Toppy got invited too, he would have plenty to add to the evening with his memories of Skonk etc
I know the theme of the eveing is celebrating Skonk Nicholson (a DHS OB who gave som much to MC) and Bill Payn (he of the running Comrades in rugby boots fame – a MC OB – who taught for yonks at DHS).
@Rugger fan: Nice to hear, I wonder what each school is giving DHS as a birthday present?
In the same vein as Grassy’s thread above. College Old Boys are getting together witn DHS Old Boys this coming Thursday evening for drinks at Rovers. Just big brother wishing baby brother a happy 150th birthday. So if you fit into either (or like Speartackle) are just looking to see a few mates and watch some over 50’s take each other on with some “TAG” (????) rugby – do come along.
Off topic and for Glenwood and KZN supporters allround, it’s Toppy Hortop’s 73rd birthday today. What a legend!
College were very disappointing and it seems chopping and changing players but still dishing up the same backline strategies didn’t work… Well played to Kearsney, some of your forwards really punished College’s indecision; hard and clever play.
@TJ: always tough for us privates up at college , especially the age group teams … However , only one result counts , and that was an absolute hiding !
1st College 14 Kearsney 31
2nd College 29 Kearsney 21d
3rd College 36 Kearsney 8
4th College 87 Kearsney 12
5th College 76 Kearsney 0
6th College 62 Kearsney 0
7th College 42 Michaelhouse 6th 0
8th College 22 Alex 1st 0
9th College 62 Kearsney 7th 0
U16A College 28 Kearsney 27
U16B College 19 Kearsney 23
U16C College 13 Kearsney 22
U16D College 20 Kearsney 14
U16E College 12 Alex 16A 7
U16F College 38 Kearsney U16D 5
U15A College 34 Kearsney 0
U15B College 33 Kearsney 10
U15C College 61 Kearsney 0
U15D College 69 Kearsney 0
U15E College 5 Michaelhouse U15C 27
U15F College 34 Alex U15A 7
U14A 24 College Kearsney 33
U14B College 12 Kearsney 0
U14C College 72 Alex U14A 0
U14D College 26 Kearsney U14C 22
U14E College 17 Kearsney U14D 0
@McCulleys Workshop: agree but I think College were their own worst enemies with aimless kicks and backline moves behind the advantage lines. The way to play Kearsney imo is upfront sucking in the likes of Richardson and Croshaw who were never asked to hit the rucks and thus could feed on turn over balls….. a well drilled side with each boy knowing what the next move or phase requires….. in hind sight loosing Glover so warly being your main fetcher can also be a contributing factor….
@McCulleys Workshop:
@Hound Insider: Kearsney are certainly playing themselves into the season. After watching the Ville game, I thought it was an average side, lucky to win on the day, then a loss to Hilton, followed by giving House a proper bun, and now a convincing win over College. I certainly think that the KZN sides do themselves no favors with what I perceive as a delayed start to the season due to other sports codes.
@Playa: Geez, Hopper isn’t in the middle of the other threads. Hopper you’ve lost your mantle for now, BrotherBear could be your alter ego!
@Speartackle:
You were doing well until the voicenote.Thats what freaked her out
31-14 to Kearsney. Fantastic first half for the The One-Stripes. They slacked off a bit in the second. But a great win nonetheless. #Hounds
@McCulleys Workshop: I think I must start wearing Polo or LaCoste shirts…..the Mr Price shirt must have put her off
@Speartackle: Hahahahaha – one fantaisical day in the life of SPEAR
@McCulleys Workshop: Ag we went to Umhlanga village yesterday morning and had the most delicious breakfast there opposite where RJ’s used to be. She was a gorgeous 52 year old blond with a stunning body. Highly english so I stuttered a few times as I was so blinded by her looks. I thought there was a massive chance of taking her home and I even invited her to the rugby with me but she had to house 2 boys from I dont know where playing Clifton in some sport.
I still sent her a voice note on Whatsapp driving to Westville and she replied with a “kiss” sticker and then after the game I tried to phone her and her phone has been off ever since.
@Grasshopper: No, I wasn’t referring to any school in particular. I’d just like to see Westville finish with a flourish. The pressure that the boys are under these days is hectic. Have a look at the Boys High fb page after their loss to St Alban’s – it’s heartbreaking stuff.
I’d also like to see Glenwood have an unbeaten season, as that would be the cherry on top after doing SA so proud at SANIX. How about a draw v ‘Ville?
@Grasshopper: Thanks my Bantam hasn’t got GPS so this will help. Is it a dodgy area or what?
@Speartackle: You’ve given up on your Mt Edgecombe date – she may enjoy Waxied.
@Speartackle: It’s about 15mins to Waxies, if you go the back route past the Varsity and behind the Pavilion, https://www.google.co.za/maps/dir/Westville+Boys'+High+School,+Wandsbeck+Road,+Westville,+KwaZulu-Natal/GLENWOOD+HIGH+SCHOOL,+1+Z+K+Mathews+Rd,+Durban,+4001/@-29.859625,30.9461159,15z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x1ef7004e4cf216a3:0x30699edc1f53ec52!2m2!1d30.928359!2d-29.829429!1m5!1m1!1s0x1ef7a9f40577d7f9:0xb7c8293deb5f7cf5!2m2!1d30.993431!2d-29.864035!5i2
@Grasshopper: That sounds good. I suppose the main game is also round about 3h30…..how far is it then from there to Waxies?……I have a date there with H2O, Star and Rhino
@Speartackle: Go to DHS vs Glenwood, Horseflies vs Grasshoppers next week. That is a proper derby game and this year DHS actually have a chance. They haven’t beaten Glenwood since 2006. Since 2000, it’s played 21, won 15, lost 5, drawn 1, 71% win ratio.
I’m hoping with DHS’s improvement we can get back to two fixtures a year. We seriously need to try and catch up with them on overall wins
.
Overall
Played: 134
Won: 55
Lost: 68
Drawn: 11
41% win ratio
The whole pre-game shenanigan’s starts during the week, opposite schools trying to ring each others bells, but boarders protect them. Hanging of carrots from the posts. It’s the one game were form means nothing. Hence my real concern of an upset. We need to be super prepared for them, squash them upfront and don’t allow their quick backs any ball.
@Vleis: I know which scalp you referring too ?
@Speartackle: Nice one Spies!
Well done Westville. That is a comprehensive win. All the best for the rest of the season boys! Pick up some big scalps!
@Speartackle: haha – good commentary
@Speartackle: If you want to see decent rugby next week go watch Glenwood against DHS.
@star: @h2o: Nope I was there…..I also sat on the 10m line next to the boys. They sang the whole game long. Who was that “Albert” they kept on calling?
Nice school cosy field….you can actually stand in the street and watch. I was impressed by Westville today…I cant believe they have been struggling so much. I liked that mobile no 1 with the black eye and HP gets wasted at 3. He had some nice strong runs and looks almost fully fit. Spoke to the coach before the game and when he heard I was Speartackle he left. He was talking a bit in circles why he is playing HP at 3 but I must say the 2 is not bad. I like the pace that Westville played and I think that is the big difference between top schools and average teams. Just felt line out ball can be quicker….the lock passes a little loop to the 9 which makes you lose a yard or 2 already. Place kicking was dreadful. Small little things in the structures that can be practised. I would like to see HP and the 8 running more on the shoulder of the ball carrier taking short passes. Small but mobile flankers and although Northwood had a bigger pack I feel Westville might struggle against a more structured big pack.
Hats off to Northwood….they tried till the end and well rewarded with 2 late tries.
All in all a nice cold afternoon of entertaining rugby.
Who is Albert?
See you okes in Maxies or Waxies next week
@h2o: @star: Considering the high number of injuries, this was a very good result for Ville.
I counted
1.Heyneke
2.Pelser
3.Taljaard
4.Wadilove
5.Mahlangu
6.Schwartz
7.Mazibuko
as missing
Missed opportunity for Northwood. They should have run Ville a lot closer. Not sure why NW don’t play their tall lock. He might have short comings in other departments but at least he could have secured lineout ball.
@star: haha no Spear was there so I heard…. wow eventually Ville have a win…..we needed that against a reputable pack……I agree Lombard and Barnard standout players. What this ville side did today was dominate the rucks…. had good ball carries over the advantage line and not every ball had to go wide… they built phases and showed patience….. why wait 9 games to get to this?…bells and ice tastes so much better than last week….. I think a drive to pmb tomorrow would be in order.
@Grasshopper: 2000 Glenwood 1st XV lost the return fixture on Goldstones. And lost to Ermelo at Ellis Park. Drew with DHS to finish the season.
@Vleis: i think it ended 48-10. Westville conceded 2 late tries when all the reserves came on. It was important to keep a clean sheet to further boost confidence. The front row played well and the tight 5 hit the rucks hard which meant quality ball. Barnard had a great game and the full back( Lombard) played to his full potential. They certainly would not have been out of place in an Academy team.
@ h2o- I remember Andre T failed to meet up at a Kearsney festival. I think Spear is from the same family. All smoke and mirrors
@Playa: checked the annuals, it says undefeated vs Natal Schools so they may have lost to Dale or a tour or something. I’m going to dig deeper. If so then we don’t have an undefeated season!
@Playa: 7 picked for Natal Schools, that was unheard of in those days, maybe another Glenwood bias conspiracy theory. Aylward (capt in 64 & 65), Chambers, Lawson, Morrissey, E Sclanders, K Sclanders & Wallace! I think it was the 1st Craven Week ever that year. Maybe it was unbeaten locally, need to clarify. But my uncle is adamant he never played Dale that year.
@Playa: more accurately the Natal Schools players didn’t play and that was about 7 or 8 guys, will check now.
Westville up by 21 to 0 at HT. Come on ‘Ville! I don’t have anything against Northwood, but Westville really need a W.
@Grasshopper: Ok cool…they chose the wrong year to play their 2nds against Dale that year. That side only lost one game to Gill College and drew with Grey Bloem.
@Playa: checked with him now, a 2nd team played Dale that year. He didn’t play that game…
@BoishaaiPa: Not this kid- he is the real deal. Watch- Bulls next year.
@Grasshopper: I correct you on 1965 every year…the record books show a score of Dale 5 – Glenwood 0
I think you were going to ask an uncle of yours about that some time ago.
@Playa: 1965 was unbeaten, also I think 2000 was unbeaten
@Grasshopper: Has Glenwood never had an unbeaten side?
Speartackle I am on the 10m line ….. kom in oor en uit
@star: the College No8, Spade Van Greef was even scared of playing Barker. The College pack just managed to contain him winning 19-12. My uncle says he has still to see another like him since. He reckons Palvie reminds him a bit of him, just taller. Isn’t old Ian MacDonald from the Wesrand?
@Grasshopper: There are a number of examples of guys coming through the ranks from AW. I am sure he will be one of them.
@star: Barker was a complete animal! My other uncle was at DHS in 78 (with Trevor Kershaw) and the stories about Barker are insane! I’m not concerned about Jarred Meyer he looks a hard not, the others I don’t know.
@Grasshopper: I remember DHS playing Westville in 1977 and on the first kick-off my brother (who was also the Westville kicker) called for the ball. Enter Mr Barker or more accurately his knee and my boet did not know his name for days. ( Still has nightmares today
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I like BHP’s reference to the Wesrand though. I have been to places where even Mr T would fear to tread. The movie ” Wrong turn” comes to mind.
I also agree with Buffel on Prinsloo, I watched an ostensibly weak Westville pack get the better of Kearsney when they played at the beginning of the season. The fact that 50% of the CW pack is from Kearsney therefore does concern me a little. There is also the strong possibility that the Kearsney players have grown in confidence as the season has gone on and this will be displayed for all to see at their home ground come CW week time.
@Rhino_67: Is Prinsloo originally from KZN?
@BoishaaiPa: Lol, what they taking in the Dorp, that there are so many hard guys, that blue pill?
@Buffel: Prinsloo hasnt had a chance to prove himself as a result of his injury against Kearsney. It hasnt helped that he also hasn’t regained his place in the Team at his prefered position of No.2 as a result of Coaches preferrences. I would say, the general comment that the Westville front row is not as strong as last years is not entirely correct. Tighthead for sure, but I know from a loose-head perspective, I think we have been better off. Don Grant hasn’t gone back to anyone this year including everything that the Affies and Grey PE guys threw at him. He also had last year Craven week prop in all sort of problems when Westville played Hilton so I think he was very unfortunate to not make one of the representitive teams. Im sure H20 would also agree with me on this one.
@Grasshopper: Thats why Speartackle settled in Toti. Several of his kids are there- but started off elsewhere. Keep in mind that Mike Schutte was dux scholar in Krugersdorp in Gr 10
@BoishaaiPa: Well tech college more than likely, doing plumbing etc…or just surfing & bumming about. Those okes would come left at Garvey’s on the Bluff..
@Grasshopper: If they still go to a school they are not that hard!…they’ll be the Wesrand’s bitches!..lol
@BoishaaiPa: Boet, I’m from the Bluff, I know all about hard okes. I actually lived near Wentworth where the gangs are harder than those on the flats. We have plenty, they just get expelled before they get to matric and go to schools like Grosvenor, Queensburgh & Toti…
@Grasshopper: You need them every year at every level…not once in 20 years…that’s the difference…for every one hard oke in Durbs there are about 50 in Krugersdorp!…lol
@BoishaaiPa: hahahah! I would love those guys to have told Mike Barker in 1979 that and many other hard men in the coming years after that. Snotklap comes to mind…
@Grasshopper: Yes, in 2012, a St Alban’s lock (Abongile) made the SA Schools side after playing for the Bulls AW team. I’m sure that there must be other examples.
In 2013, Abongile made the Bulls CW team and the SA Schools side again. His lock partner at St Alban’s (Jason) made the AW team, but did not play at AW as he was injured. However, they both played for SA u20 at the world cup last year. Abongile now plays for the Bulls CC team and Jason plays for the Bulls s18 team. So, like Buffel says, there is every chance that HP can progress further after school with the correct development.
@Grasshopper: The problem is the players you see as enforcers and tough guys in KZN are at about Ballerina level in Krugersdorp!…
@Buffel: Surely Academy Week players can still make Junior Boks? He might come through there. I get your point though. I would also go for the players with the most mongrel. KZN need to stop being bullied at Craven Week, it’s time to stand up and dish some out ourselves. We have the players to do so.
@Grasshopper: What I am saying is that Prinsloo is the Number 1 hooker in KZN . That incident last year is a blight but he is very physical and will come through the ranks and make a very good career for himself. I just don’t understand the rational in the selectors minds because we always lack grunt in our sides and when it is put on a platter you take another option. It was touch and go last year between Prinsloo and Wiseman from MHS and with another year under his belt he should have been a cert. The Westville props and locks this year are not as dominant as last year so they should have taken that into consideration. Anyway, he will end up with a big union next year and will show his true worth. If managed properly, I will put my proverbial on the block and say he will be a junior Bok in 2018.
@Greenman: That’s great that it has worked out so well for your son. There are ‘bitter min’ South African schools that get the opportunity to play the NZ school champs…and then give them a hiding, nogal. When he’s your age he will still be boring his mates around the braai with that story…and good for him!
@McCulleys Workshop: What year were you at House?
@Grasshopper: Wrong Red and White jersey, ask Meadows, he’ll have an idea.
@Greenman: Yep, I’ll find out. My boy is only 1 now so a few years to wait…
@Grasshopper: “we lost a very talented under14 No8 to Monnas” Don’t think we lost him. He just went home. Not all boys are made for hostel and never mind the bursary. Hell of an expensive to pay the extras i.e flights (mommy don’t believe in buses, to dangerous), visits down south,(accommodation, transport, meals etc) tours and academy. Wrecks your wallet while at home could have been cheaper. But in our opinion, the best thing ever done. Not just for the rugby. Discipline , respect, quality of education, brotherhood. Priceless!!
Old Greys still not happy that I did not send him to my alma mater but in this instance Mommy made the call. You know who wears the pants, don’t you.
@Grasshopper: Justin Moberly played varsity cup for Maties and is currently in WP CC set-up.
@Greenman: As I said, pathetic! What is that teaching the boy? To give up because it’s got a little more difficult…..eish
Let me put it this way. Boy with potential identified from a small school. Great opportunity and daddy convince Mommy that it is the right thing to do. She against it (my poor son, how is he going to cope) but lets go. Couple of years later rugby did not turn out like it was suppose to. Mommy win and daddy concede. Bring him home.
Grey has the same problem. Son big in under 13’s and get opportunity to go to Grey. He gets there and there is ten other in the same position as good as he is. He ends up playing under 14 C. Parents don’t like it and recall son.
@greenman: have they returned back to Pretoria?
@Dixon’s: I do know we lost a very talented under14 No8 to Monnas..
@Greenman: do you know where they are in school now???
@Greenman: Nope, it’s called patience and your time will come. The parents are not really thinking about their boys best interests by withdrawing them from a school they have attended for a while and have made friends at….pathetic, sorry…
@McCulleys Workshop: You are right. What ever happened to Justin Moberly? As you know the 2007/2008 KZN sides so well, do you know what happened to these Glenwood boys?
Kurt Beeton
Andrich Arlow
Storm Pearton
Allen Zungu
They haven’t progressed like Ruan Combrinck, Patrick Lambie, Monde Hadebe, Nick Schonert, Dale Chadwick and the Cronje Brothers..
@Grasshopper: Parent echo’s I reckon. Pity because they were good players and would have been up there next year. I cause the argument can also be that they were there for rugby and they are not “making”( 3 rd team from under 16 A) it why have them that far away. Bring them home. I think my mommy would have the same argument.
@Grasshopper: Ya great for Clifton. Im not sure we had any reps in 2013 which was also a year where we battled, after a great 2012 season.
@Greenman: Seriously, how pathetic is that. Because they were not picked they leave….?
@McCulleys Workshop: must be the 1st time in a while HOUSE has had no reps. Is it a 1st for Clifton?
@Scout: are your services available to Jeppe and Helpmekaar in the Lions region? They have not played each other, but can be considered best teams here. Your thinking may be refreshing to locals – hehehe.
@Grasshopper: Left school and returned to Pta
@The Scout: Who has expected greater representation than GW and where has there been a lack of support shown? You must be on a different blog!
@Greenman: What do you mean lost players? Left the school?
@BoishaaiPa: True, but 3 weeks will give time to build up some rust. It’s a fine balance, we moan when there is too much rugby and moan when too little. Wish we were playing one of the Boland schools this year, would have given us a good idea of relative strength. Maybe next year at Wildeklawer or Kearsney
@Grasshopper: however, there is another downside for the school. We have lost two great players already because the were not chosen for Japan and they returned home. There might be more after the CW announcement. Sad but expectations are high from parents and kids. Suppose this happens everywhere.
@Greenman: Looked like the squad in Japan had quite a few under16’s, certainly no Palvie and Smit due to age. Those two must be raring to go now! Maybe been a good break for Palvie..
@Grasshopper: Be gratefull for the rest period..They could have had the same type of scenario Paarl Boys had in 2014…Came back the Friday morning..had about 6 injuries from the tourno..Then on the Sat had to play Wynberg (Who had a good team in 2014 and ended up in Top 10)..Then the next Sat they played Boland and Sat after that Grey…Three weeks later we did not have a fully fit 1st XV player!
@The Scout: vive la KZN! Agree. There will always be the what could and if. Human beings talking! It will be great if we can now start punting our KZN sides as one!
@Grasshopper: Trials have definitely influenced preparation for the school and don’t think it will get better as there is KZN practices. Lets hope that we can keep it together and injury free. Glenwood has a lot of depth this year. Two under 16 boys also played in Japan, scrumhalf and flyhalf. May be reason for loss under 16 A at Wildeklawer.
@Greenman: My uncle played in the last great side of 1964 and 1965 (made Natal Schools both years), he lives in Sydney and gets all the news from me. He is super excited about this team :-)
@Greenman: My concern now is this 3 week no game time period, although I’m sure the coaches are keeping them in shape and trials also. We just need them to stay injury free. I’ll be in Durbs for the Grey game, can’t wait…
@Grasshopper: Altitude not a problem! They grew up in Gauteng! I believe the no expectation serves them well and they still hungry for the season while others already had their high and disappointments! The boytjies are down to earth and if they continue on current form will be right up there. Maybe from 34th to 33 th!
I predict Glenwood will have a 2016 and 2017 awesome year.
Congrats to all the boys that have made the teams, hopefully they can go represent the province with pride. Anyone who expected any other school to have more players than Glenwood must go see a psychologist. They are the best team in KZN this year and if they play to their full potential they will surprise a lot of schools this year. Am glad to see DHS boys making the team as well. The schools with no reps need to go back to the drawing boards and as for every KZN blogger, please support these kids and stop trying to point out what should or could have been done.
@Greenman: Don’t forget Middleburg, they are a tough outfit too. I just don’t want to jinx the boys by hyping them up…
@Greenman: Yep, agreed. But I still think Monnas and Affies away will be very difficult to win, it’s at altitude on their home patches. I’ll be at the Monnas game for sure. On Dixon’s anything can happen. For me we have the pack to compete with anyone and our backs are pretty sharp too. Holthauzen and Maduna are immense as a combo. Let’s ensure the boys stay down to earth, concentrate on DHS next week and take it game by game. Could end up our best season since 1965, who knows….
@Grasshopper: The EG Jansen game was the first of the season and the boys were still finding each other. I think they learned a lot about themselves and their team mates in Japan. Enjoy them playing as a unit and not individuals. What is great is that they are written off here all the time and the other big teams punted i.e Nr 1 place only between Grey, PBHS and not long ago Affies. I believe that takes off a lot of pressure which helps and we will survives. Affies had a funeral after their defeat. Coming from nowhere last year rated 34 th every game is a possibility to improve.
@McCulleys Workshop: They have played a very physical EG Jansen and beaten them. Yes it was close but I believe they should have won by more. Also subdued a very skillful Dale College team. The Fijian side at SANIX was huge, well I heard they dwarfed our guys. So the Glenwood boys have been exposed to some tough opposition. Obviously the real tests will come vs Monnas, Affies and Grey Bloem, also remember DHS is a banana-skin waiting to slip on…
@Greenman: I didn’t think you were implying that, rather that based on your assessment this year should be a good CW year for KZN, I’m just not sure I agree based on only one provincially strong side. This isn’t meant to dis the GW side nor the other weaker KZN sides. As I said, I hope it is a good year, and maybe the combination of the additional parts to the GW backbone to the side works well?
@McCulleys Workshop: Hi, My intention was not to punt Glenwood but to indicate talent that I know exist there as that is my knowledge base. I did mention other schools and maybe others have got their choices/ opinions
@BOG: You not just funny but talks the biggest lot of kak you can think of. Please concentrate your energy on tomorrows game. We need that win!!
@Greenman: You wont
, when they start bulding. Given, your performance so far this year, perhaps they will give your boys first opportunity
@Greenman: I’m not sure I agree with you, one side doesn’t make a winter, with Greystaat being the exception. No arguing that GW have a strong side this year, even though they haven’t been properly tested against the perennial powerhouses yet, however the rest of the KZN sides are not particularly competitive and some are weak! I certainly hope the team does well, and no doubt things are looking up for 2017.
@BOG:
Well, the rumours of 2-3 yrs ago, regarding GCB, establishing satellite campuses in Durban and the WC, still persist. They still have this “missionary” approach to promote the game of rugby in areas, where it is executed at an inferior or less advanced level. I think its an excellent idea which will offer the massive pool of talent concentrated in Bloemfontein to take their skills to these disadvantaged areas. And of course, offer opportunities to the aspirant players in those less fortunate centres to become part of a truly unique institution.
@Grasshopper: I think we would have no problem with enforcers next year and might have more than one. The Hookers, Schwultze and De Wet Truter (who did put up his hand at the trials and I think very unlucky not to be in any of the teams), obviously JJ vd Mescht and also Edward Laubscher last years Grant Khomo non travelling reserve. Also made final trials this year but switch from lock to eight. Not sure if he ever played in that position. 2014 played Prop and year later lock. Big piece of meat and rough as they come. There is also Ettiene Terblanche (flank) last years lock Grant Khomo who did not reach last stage of trials. Unfortunately plagued by yellow cards this year. Rough as they come. If it is his game, I am sure he will pick it up again. Jonas o Neill, flanker, again as hard as they get. All of them from Glenwood. Unfortunately Glenwood hasn’t played many games here this year but I rate the 1 st team to cause a couple of surprises. Watching the you tube games in Japan Coaches Dames and Vowles had a field day with all their talent. Needless to say the other schools will also have some tough candidates. I reckon the selectors were spoiled for choice this year with all the talent on hand. Further by the chosen who just had to pitch. I deduct that from the comments here. Then the under 16!. 2016 and 2017 will be a good year for KZN rugby I think.
@BOG: I can understand why you dont want another WP team at CW…You will never see finals again and the Two Province teams will dominate
@BrotherBear: We had a braai before Spear left for Durban and I mentioned your name, he became pale, big bulging veins started surrounding that big moesie between his eyes……he took a swing at me but fortunately missed and that tender Rant en Dal fillet I prepared for us came out with leaving a Empire Road stench for the rest of the night
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@Speartackle: Free choice. But I heard that the reason behind this, is that it has more merit than allowing another team in the WC/WP. And surprizingly, I agree totally.
@Speartackle: agree forward domination against Affies was a bane. Team moved on significantly since then and dominated other games. Seems when you see my name your brain blocks the oxygen, the jaws clench and fits take over (you must use this pun in your reply).
Tiaan’s elbow and knee troubled at that stage. He is ready and rearing for tomorrow’s game against Garsies.
@BrotherBear: What are you referring to ou Braakbeer? Do you think the Helpies forwards can intimidate and physically overpower other teams? Bwahahaha….they certainly kept that well hidden against Affies, HJS and Monnas although I must say Tiaan is my kind of player and The game against HJS changed drastically after he left the field…..against Monnas I tried to follow him and watch his work rate but I couldn’t find him most of the time……..then I see him on the field….then in the sin bin…..then behind the poles…..then on the field…..then next to the sideline ……then on the field again………but one hell of a player.
Was it his elbow? Has he recovered fully now?
@Speartackle: He is on the case now, we need grunt upfront!
@BOG: Then the Vrede boys don’t have to attend Grey anymore to play CW?
@Grasshopper: Easy man……get Tom’s agent to visit birth certificate officials
I heard confidentially, that the Freestate is also getting a CD side at CW- from next year. Good news. It would cover the vast area outside Bloemfontein and that of the Griffons. This could even make me a supporter of CW again.
@Speartackle: so it sounds as if you did listen to reason from us on the Lions team thread. You are now using our arguments – well done. Seems the fresh sea air is allowing more oxygen to the brain and clearing the cobwebs.
Are you doing some prep spadework for the grandchildren down there?
@Speartackle: If only Palvie wasn’t under19, gosh he would have made a huge difference regarding physicality..
@Buffel: I agree on HP. If it wasn’t for that EP incident he would have been close to SA School’s selection. KZN always complain about their lack in physicality and intimidation and when they have those players they do not pick them.
@Buffel: So are you saying Prinsloo in for Brrummer in the A team maybe?
They got it wrong. HP at 2 and DR at 7. DR covers at 2 and visa versa. You need Prinsloo’s physicality and weight. HP has a few weeks left to get match ready and he would be my first pick in the side, let alone the Squad. Come now guys. Leave personal agendas out of it.
@BoishaaiPa: Heard you loud and clear.
@h2o: Dankie…..sien jou daar
I’m just a little worried we lack mongrel! We have size but who is going to be our enforcer! JJ will be next year!
@Speartackle: #3
@h2o: Speel HP vandag voorry of haker?
@h2o: Wat maak jy 04h00 in die oggend? Sal more oggend daai tyd jou kom haal dan draf jy saam met my
Very surprised that Prinsloo not in CW team, He was the star player in last year’s CW.
Just as a matter of interest the u12 and 13 trials are on at Glenwood. It started yesterday and ends tomorrow. U12,13 &merit trial. Regions there are at trials-Dbn coastals, pinetown and districts, nortern kzn, midlands, southern kzn and zululand. 9 games a day. So if you want to see what our talent pool looks like it starts at 0930-1230 today.
@GreenBlooded: well done to all the boys who made it. It is truly a great achievement to have come this far. As for HP he is disappointed but has accepted the choices made. I feel that he has done well coming this far with only his 4th game back from injury (2 trial matches incl). I believe with the ranking pos he might have been no4 at the start of the trials behind DR and the 2 Gwd hookers. He had 2 solid trial games and based on his performance at trials was imo close to 1/2. Having no Westville selector could also have played a factor but that is indicative of what a mess Ville rugby is in this season. Fail to plan, plan to fail.His injury kept him out of this season but he has no after effects and has recovered fully. He is also playing prop but as is his mindset he says that it is only a position at scrumtime. I believe he was a casualty of pdi but those are the rules and such is life and no hardfeelings and take nothing away from Mbatha as he did have a good final trials . Those are life lessons it is not how many times you fall it is how fast you get up. And yes Green I remember those days at villages when you had to be coach,referee and psycologist for the 2 of them
@Playa: would have to withdraw from WP system totally then and be in Boland league as schools. Don’t see that happening. But you never know.
@McCulleys Workshop:
Hard to tell to what extent HP’s injury played a role here. What I do know is that he won’t be using it as an excuse. It could just come down to a good / bad day at the office for DR and HP respectively. An U17 boy (2 actually if you include Mbatha from MC) displacing an U18 incumbent seems to suggest that the trials are indeed fair – a theory which the Glenwood haters have consistently denied over the years.
As I said – I coached HP and DR in the same team when they were juniors – around U11-U13 or so. 2 alpha males trying to establish dominance – were at each others throats every practice and a few casualties that got caught in the crossfire…..
But what a treat to have them both in my team on matchday!!
They are both very similar characters – both are hard as nails, willing to work as hard as it take to make it, uncompromising, agressive and both want it very very badly. That DR is a year younger makes his performance thusfar slightly more remarkable to me.
I have no doubt that both of them will have stellar international careers one day – hopefully in the green and gold if Mr Mbalula doesn’t get his way.
It’s also worth noting that the 2nd hooker Fezo Mbatha from Maritzburg College is also a Gr11 U17 player and the only player from College to make the CW team. He started the season in the 2nds. What a great honour for the young man!!!
@RugbyFan12345: None of them are u16.
@GreenBlooded: do you think Prinsloo has been excluded because of injury or is he playing second fiddle to Richardson. Prinsloo played CW last year, and although he was reserve and was carded against EP, he was a tough customer. I’m dissapointed he didn’t make CW. What are your views?
Not that I’m claiming any credit – but 3 of the 4 top hookers in KZN were coached by me at HVJR in their earlier years!! In one case – I have endured an acrimonious relationship with mommy and daddy to this day for insisting he plays in the front row!
Having Richardson (8) and Prinsloo (2) together in the same team was a coaches nightmare
. How they didn’t kill each other or someone else at practices are still a mystery. Hard, hard, hard lighties even back then!
HOW MANY OF THE CRAVEN WEEK PLAYERS ARE U16 AND MADE GRANT KHOMO LAST YEAR?
Matt Pollard from Westville should be in the under16’s but he cruelly got injured just before the final trials.
@beet: The irony is that the Griquas CD team is mostly made up of 2 or 3 schools.
@Playa: The Boland also comprises of a huge area with plenty of schools. To incorporate the wineland schools into this area will deprive lots of players from the more rural areas of a chance of playing CW…The ideal scenario would be WP CD consisting of the 4 wineland giants plus strand/somerset west area. The WP side can then be picked from southern and northern sub schools and still be a strong team. They did incorporate Winrland 4 into Boland in 2001 but complains were rife from Boland schools.
@Hound Insider: At full strength the Glenwood Under16’s are the strongest in the province, but it does seem quite a bit.
12 Glenwood players in the u16 team!
Glenkhomo? 
Good to see 2 Campbell boys in the AW team Wayne Ngubane and Njabulo Nkosi. Well done all the players!!
@BoishaaiPa: It’s always been my feeling that everything north of Bellville (Franschoek, Paarl, Worcester etc.) should form part of Boland. Out of interest, which areas would you set as WPCD if you were to be the decision maker on this?
@BoishaaiPa:KZN CD goes to Academy Week but I get your point.
Griquas CD is an exception in my books because of the vast distance the Northern Cape covers. From a logistical view it’s impractical to try and service that whole region with just one team.
Great to see Gugu Nelani get selected. Been a tough season for Northwood and he has worked hard!
He will wear the KZN No1 jersey that was also donned by a Northwood boy in 2014 (Ngoni Chidoma), which is quite special.
Good luck to the whole team, hope to see the DHS backs fire as they have all season!
Copied from other thread;
Let’s look at the KZN side by school now;
Starting Line Up for KZN Craven Week 2016
1. G. Nelani (Northwood)
2. D. Richardson (Kearsney)
3. R. Van Rooyen (Glenwood)
4. JJ Van den Mescht (Glenwood)
5. J. Meyer (Kearsney)
6. L. Croshaw (Kearsney)
7. P. Buthelezi (DHS)
8. J. Miller (Kearsney)
9. S. Nohamba (DHS)
10. A. Curtis (Hilton)
11. GJ. Lubbe (Glenwood)
12. S. Maduna (Glenwood)
13. M. Houltzhausen (Glenwood)
14. T. Nduzo (DHS)
15. C. Zondeki (DHS)
16. F Mbatha (College – hooker)
17. Q Vorster (Glenwood – prop/hooker)
18. A Zandamela (Clifton – prop)
19.D Weideman (Glenwood – lock)
20. A Brummer (Glenwood – flank)
21. S Dubazane (Glenwood – scrumhalf)
22. C Ritchie (Kearsney – flyhalf)
23. O Jiba (DHS -centre)
Glenwood – 9
Kearsney – 5
DHS – 5
Clifton – 1
College – 1
Northwood – 1
Hilton – 1
I think a good side on balance and considering the rules. Nice pack, Meyer and JJ could form a really good lock partnership, both big boys. Must be the most DHS has had in over a decade.
There is still something fundamentally wrong with the system if teams like EP, Griquas, Border and KZN can send Country District teams to CW, but a province like WP can only send one team!…Absolute farce!..It doesn nothing for the development of players from those regions if they get klapped at every CW!