| INFO | DATE | SCHOOL | SCHOOL | EVENT | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wed.13May | Vereeniging Gim | 18 | 8 | Noordheuwel | ||
| Sat.16May | Hilton | 66 | 10 | Clifton | ||
| Sat.16May | Westville | 25 | 0 | Pretoria BH | ||
| Sat.16May | Kearsney | 23 | 20 | Maritzburg College | ||
| Sat.16May | Michaelhouse | 78 | 3 | Northwood | ||
| Sat.16May | George Campbell | 0 | 34 | DHS | ||
| Sat.16May | St Charles | 76 | 0 | KZN Development | ||
| Sat.16May | Graeme | 0 | 36 | Queen’s | ||
| Sat.16May | St Andrew’s | 24 | 21 | Cambridge | ||
| Sat.16May | Hudson Park | 71 | 10 | Stirling | ||
| Sat.16May | Grens | 17 | 22 | Dale | ||
| Sat.16May | Selborne | 21 | 51 | Grey College | ||
| Sat.16May | Kingswood | 38 | 26 | Port Rex | ||
| Sat.16May | Jim Fouche | 16 | 25 | Sentraal | ||
| Sat.16May | Fichardtpark | 17 | 42 | Louis Botha | ||
| Sat.16May | Hentie Cilliers | 14 | 66 | Welkom Gim | ||
| Sat.16May | HTS Welkom | 5 | 62 | Voortrekker (Beth) | ||
| Sat.16May | Kroonstad | 15 | 58 | Witteberg | ||
| Sat.16May | Goudveld | 5 | 33 | AHS Kroonstad | ||
| Sat.16May | Duineveld | 3 | 8 | Upington | ||
| Sat.16May | Parktown | 26 | 32 | St John’s | ||
| Sat.16May | St Alban’s | 38 | 9 | St Andrew’s School | ||
| Sat.16May | St David’s | 22 | 22 | Randpark | ||
| Sat.16May | St Stithians | 17 | 25 | Noordheuwel | ||
| Sat.16May | Monument | 108 | 0 | Rustenburg | ||
| Sat.16May | Garsfontein | 27 | 25 | Waterkloof | ||
| Sat.16May | Wonderboom | 13 | 23 | Eldoraigne | ||
| Sat.16May | Affies | 92 | 0 | KES | ||
| Cancelled | Sat.16May | Menlopark | x | x | Glenwood | |
| Sat.16May | Nelspruit | 48 | 10 | HTS Witbank | ||
| Sat.16May | Middelburg | 26 | 41 | HTS Middelburg | ||
| Sat.16May | Ermelo | 46 | 28 | Hoogenhout | ||
| MV canc’d | Sat.16May | EG Jansen | x | x | Marais Viljoen | |
| Sat.16May | Kempton Park | 45 | 26 | Jeugland | ||
| Sat.16May | Klerksdorp | 34 | 12 | Potch Volkskool | ||
| Sat.16May | Jeppe | 36 | 13 | St Benedict’s | ||
| Sat.16May | Pietersburg | 28 | 58 | Helpmekaar | ||
| Sat.16May | Linden | 36 | 20 | Randburg | ||
| Sat.16May | Louis Trichardt | 7 | 64 | Ben Vorster | ||
| Sat.16May | Hugenote (Springs) | 29 | 37 | Volkskool Heidelberg | ||
| Sat.16May | Centurion | 26 | 8 | Montana | ||
| Sat.16May | Oos-Moot | 43 | 6 | Tuine | ||
| Sat.16May | Transvalia | 42 | 14 | Oosterlig | ||
| Sat.16May | Brackenfell | 17 | 29 | Bishops | ||
| Sat.16May | HJS Paarl BH | 29 | 24 | Boland Landbou | ||
| Sat.16May | Oakdale | 34 | 13 | Drostdy | ||
| Sat.16May | Oudtshoorn | 28 | 22 | Langenhoven Gim | ||
| Sat.16May | Stellenberg | 16 | 22 | Outeniqua | ||
| Sat.16May | Paul Roos | 21 | 23 | Paarl Gim | ||
| Sat.16May | Rondebosch | 15 | 27 | SACS | ||
| Sat.16May | Wynberg | 36 | 21 | Strand | ||
| Sat.16May | Bellville | 41 | 13 | Swartland | ||
| Sat.16May | Durbanville | 12 | 61 | Tygerberg | ||
| Sat.16May | Hugenote | 13 | 38 | Worcester Gim |
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@Rugbyman: Sy het hom blykbaar herken van sy Pniel dae en daarop aangedring dat hy wys
@Andre T: ons is net dankbaar dat jou neef speartackle nie by die hek ingelaat is nie… ek hoor hys in n vangwa weggeneem na hy die juffrou by die hek geflash het…
@Rugbyman: Ek moet se dit was die beste gasvryheid wat ek nog by n skool ontvang het. Baie baie dankie en dra dit asb aan Retief en Leon ook oor.
Ek sien julle Saterdag by Menlo
@Andre T: Jy jouself darem geniet saterdag by garsies? Ek hoor jy het jouself gedra… (net-net)
@PaarlBok: Ek is baie spyt ek kon nie die onder 16’s sien speel nie. Dit was ‘n “come back” soos min !!
@akw: Gaan na http://www.ruggas.co.za en kliek op Radio Ruggas
@Andre T: Gee net gou weer aanwysings om te kan luister.
@BuffelsCM: Ek ken Muller, Christoff en Helmut baie goed.
Die noodlot van die besering wat Muller na 10 laat skuif het was n meesterskuif. Hy het die wedstryd van n agterstand van 28-10 omgedraai in n wen van 40-31.
Muller het darem oorspronlik vir KleinGim se u13s gespeel voor hy na PRG is in graad 8 om sy broer JP te volg.
JP natuurlik was saterdag langs die veld om sy boetie te ondersteun.
@Maroon: Yes thank you I am aware of that
Dis weer Radio Ruggas tyd vandag om 12h00………………kom luister na die geregistreerde kenners
@BuffelsCM: He played flyhalf and fullback for the PRG u/15A team last year, before the move to Gim.
@Tandem: He is a fullback but had to play centre a few times as well. On Saturday he had to move to flyhalf due to an injury. He is a natural ball player with lots of skills and vision
@Maroon: @Monte Bello 84: Moet saamstem en vir my was Steenkamp nog beter in 1990 toe hy en Andre Venter hul senterpaar was.
@Bosveldpa: Kyk ek het al gehoor van die Leeu Loop maar nog nooit van die Hoender Dans nie. En ek het al gehoor van Dirty Dancing of soos dit algemeen in Afrikaanse voertaal beskryf word, Die Vagina Vastrap. Vermoed die nuwe Hoender Dans is ‘n trance dancing oefening!
@PaarlBok: Which position is he playing?
Ek sien daar doen ‘n video die rondte van die Garsfontein Bere in die kleedkamer met een of ander hoenderdans na ‘n sogenaamde wen. Dis baie bling jong, het julle hulp uit die Kaap gekry om dit te skryf en op te voer. Nee regtig, julle kon moontlik verder gewen het Saterdag as julle daai dans oefensessie prysgegee het en eerder op die veld spandeer het en hantering geoefen het….
8) 8)
@Tandem: I agree with all your comments about Christoff. He pays a lot of attention to detail which is vital if you want to be successful as a coach. He is a very humble person as well.
@PaarlBok: Ek kan jou verseker dat Muller ‘n nederige jong man is. Hy is ongetwyfeld ‘n sekere keuse vir die WP O/16-span. Hy werk ook aan alle aspekte van sy spel.
Helmut dra gewis ook baie by tot die span se sukses
@Maroon: I also think Lötter is unbelievable coach . I rate him higher than certain very high profile coaches employed at some of our unions . I don’t know him personally but I have been studying his teams for years . If he really wants he will be able to coach a SA team very soon and can coach a Senior professional team .
Leelu…as ek jou geaffronteer het was dit beslis nie my bedoeling nie en tender ek onvoorwaardelik hiermee my verskoning aan. My siening van Kloof is dat dit ‘n baie goeie skool is. As jy die moeite doen om die blog deur te lees sal jy opmerk dat ek baie hoë agting het vir Klood Rugby en veral julle afrigter Andre de Meyer.
Die situasie met my seun is dat baie van sy vriende gaan Garsies toe, dus sal hy noodwendig Garsies as keuse hê.
Maar ingelyks is my seun ook ‘n groot aanhanger van tradisies by skole soos wat by Affies die geval is. Dus as hy Affies as keuse verkies sal dit impliseer dat hy bande met sy vriende sal verbreek om sy keuse en voorkeure te kan uitleef.
Ek stem egter saam met jou dat ons geseën is met baie goeie hoërskole in die Ooste en vertrou ek dat jy die wedstryd Saterdag tussen Kloof en Affies sal geniet want Kloof het die afgelope 5 jaar Affies se nommer met 3 – 2 in julle guns.
Ek het ‘n wedstryd in 1989 gesien tussen PRG en Grey College op Shimlapark. Pieta het daardie dag losskakel gespeel en was pure klas. Sou nie vir Nic in dieselfde klas plaas nie.
Het ook die 16A wedstryd van Paul Roos en Paarl Gym gekyk. Ek was ook nogal beindruk met Muller Du Plessis. Hy het my herinner aan vorige uitstaande spelers soos Johan Goosen, Nic Koster en Pieta Steenkamp (senter Grey lank terug) wat op skolevlak op ‘n ander planeet was.
@PaarlBok: En dis gewoonlik die uitdaging…
@Pinotage: Yep, wat n speler. As hy nederig is en hard werk is daar net een pad vir hom en dis boontoe.
@PaarlBok: Ek neem aan jy praat van Muller Du Plessis? As jy van hom praat, kan ek net saamstem. Uitsonderlike talent van kleintyd op Reiz!
Ek het spesiaal die u16As gaan kyk. Muller is een helse speler. Hier kom n Bok.
@Maroon: Stem saam , Christof en Helmut weet wat hulle doen. Ek reken Gim het sy draai gemaak teen Bishops. Gaan n groot span vat om hulle van hier te klop.
@GarsieOuer: Ek glo as uiters onpartydige man hierso (en ek kan jou belowe ek is nie ‘n groot Affie pel nie), kan ek net noem – as akademie ook belangrik is, kan jul nie verkeerd gaan met ‘n seunskool nie. Die onderwysers weet net hoe om die manne reg te ruk (sonder dat daar meisies in ag geneem moet word), en die gesonde mededinging onder manne is baie goed vir akademiese verbetering. Ons laatie se punte het met 15% gestyg binne 18 maande vanaf ‘n sterk gemengde tot ‘n sterk seunskool.
@GarsieOuer: Die d,e en f spanne by Affies het al elkeen tussen 7 en 9 wedstryde elk gespeel hierdie jaar. Daar word vullerwedstryde gereël in die week en ook oor naweke indien ‘n skool nie vol spanne kan stuur nie.
Sien gerus alle uitlae tot dusver.
http://www.affiesrugby.co.za/2015-ander-spanne-uitslae.html
@akw: dit het die vorige aand (Vrydag) lekker gereen tot vroegoggend, maar die druk het wel ook ‘n groot bydrae gelewer.
Is dit net ek of het beide PRG en Gim gesukkel met die basiese vaardighede van bal uitgee en bal vang met tye?
Was dit te wyte aan die weersomstandighede of aan die druk waaronder die kinders speel?
@Maroon: Jip @kenloos. Weereens, ek praat van uitsonderings, die slegte appels…
Dit is baie sleg om die nydigheid tussen verteenwoordigers van verskillende skole te sien op die blog – manne elke skool het sy goeie en slegte punte – en elke skool het maar sy paar ouers wat hulle soos kinders gedra – kom ons aavaar dit en PRAAT eerder RUGBY.
@GarsieOuer – die mannetjies kry net soveel speel tyd in die die d, e en f spanne – een van die redes waarom Affies ‘derbys’ hou met groot seuns skole.
Laaste punt – ek merk dat Affies nou al 27 seuns gebruik het vir die 1ste span hierdie seisoen (na 10 wedstryde) – sal interessant wees om te hoor wat daardie syfer is by die ander skole – laat weet bietjie.
sien uit om die nuwe ranking tesien, paul roos het verloor, en garsies het 2 groot games gewen? sacs maak ook groot aanspraak, en jeppe jol ook goeie rugby die jaar. affies het ook ‘n groot oorwinning teen oor kes gehad, sien uit om tesien wat gan gebeur tussen kloof en affies die naweek!
@AffieOuer: ek stem met jou saam…
Baie geluk aan Gim. Christoff is ‘n meester. Die taktiek was reg en die span het verdien om te wen op die dag se spel. Ek moet bysê dat ek nog nooit hierdie jaargroep so “flat” gesien het soos Saterdag nie. Die intensiteit het geskort Saterdag.
Die Ken: Daar is fout as old boys, skoliere se ouers niks gun nie. Is jy op Twitter?
@AffieOuer:
Maar kry hulle game-time? Nie alle skole kan d, e en f spanne instoot om teen te speel nie.
geluk aan al die manne met die goeie uitslae, saterdag weer ‘n paar groot games!
Geluk aan Gim, was die beste span en Vissie was my MOTM. Sterkte vir interskole.
baie geluk aan al die spanne wat gewen het die naweek! hierdie naweek nog ‘n paar groot games
@Rugbyman: natuurlik sal dit wees aangesien julle ook n groot skool is. Ek gebruik maar net Affies as n verwysing. Ek wil die punt maak dat ouers nie bang moet wees om hulle kinders in groot skole te sit oor daar moontlik baie kompetisie kan wees nie maar eerder moet besef dat daar eerder veel meer geleenthede is. Die verskil is heel dikwels dat die ster vd laerskool nie dieselfde aansien in n groot skool sal he nie aangesien hy dikwels omring is van vele sterre. Dit in my opinie is n goeie ding en spoor kinders aan om hard te werk. Om die beste te wil wees moet jy uitstyg tussen die bestes.
@Leelu: nee hel ons het julle nie afgeransel nie! Dit was baie close!
Dit was n dag se top rugby tussen twee top skole! Sterkte vorentoe vir julle ook… gaan verras saterdag (ek skree die slag vir klofies!!!)
@AffieOuer: ek wil nou nie bemark nie, maar dis heel moontlik in ons skool ook om dit reg te kry…
@Rugbyman: Ek is bewus van die feit dat Waterkloof een van die koshuis stigterslede was.
Ek ag ‘n seun wat alreeds vanaf Gr. 8 of vir ‘n geruime tyd in ‘n skool is nie as ‘n invoer nie (Dok F mag verskil
– maar hy is baie anti Garsies). Waterkloof se o14 span het kinders van Florida, Kempton Park, Springs, Rustenburg, ens. en almal word as Klofies geag. Dieselfde geld vir al jul o14 rugby spelers.
Alle wedstryde behalwe die o15 was spannend tot aan die einde, geen vuilspel, pawiljoen se gees uitstekend. In geheel ‘n baie goeie advertensie vir wat skolerugby veronderstel is om te wees.
Sterkte vir die res van julle seisoen. Julle het ons Saterdag sleg afgeransel. Sien uit na ons volgende wedstryde teen Garsies. Hopelik kan ons die bordjies verhang.
@CharlesZA: dis ‘n no-brainer daardie! miskien moet ons al daardie busse uit die Noordelike voorstede se GPS verander na Stellies toe, ipv Paarl toe.
@Die Ken: Gaan haal die manne in die Strand. Sien hulle doen ook baie goed.
@GarsieOuer: Kom ek vertel jou waaroor gaan rugby rerig…Saterdag het n seun sy debuut by Affies se 1stes gemaak. Willie se storie is as volg:
2011 – o/14D
2012 – o/15C
2013 – o/16C
2014 – 3e
2015 – 2e/1e
In Affies kan elke seun wat lief is vir die game, rugby speel en met harde werk eendag in die wit trui uitdraf! In so baie ander skole het n seun nie die geleentheid om te kan deel te neem tensy hy in die A of B span is nie. In my opinie moet n ou juis groot skole oorweeg om te verseker jou kind kan rugby jol en verder ontwikkel sodat hy, soos in Willie se geval, uiteindelik 1ste span kan speel. Daar is baie voorbeelde van die Willie’s in ons samelewing…ek dink net groter skole met meer ouderdoms spanne gee groter geleenthede eerder as minder. Ek is seker baie sal v my verskil maar ek ervaar dit eerste hands in Affies en dis mooi om te sien en deel v te wees
@BuffelsCM: nee wat, glad nie emosioneel nie… dit verbaas my net elke keer hoe oningelig mense kan wees en hoe uit die heup geskiet kan word met selektiewe geheue en of inligting
@CharlesZA: presies!
Ek persoonlik dink met die Regering se vissier nou ingestel op AL die Afrikaanse skole, sal ons saam moet werk om elkeen te red. Die akademie en sport was net soveel beter dat hulle dit nie verder kan toelaat dat hulle eie tekortkominge so uitgelig word nie.
Vir een ding, het ons ‘n kompeterende tweede liga nodig, waar talent ook raakgesien word. Dit moet nie nodig wees om Garsies, Klofies, Affies ens toe te gaan om raakgesien te word nie. Rugby het groot besigheid geword en ‘n loopbaan begin deesdae al in Gr 8. Daarom kan mens nie ouers verwyt om die beste geleenthede vir hulle kinders te gun nie.
Dis ‘n fyn balans: My jongste speel flank vir Garsies A o/11A. Stuur ek hom eendag Affies toe om met sewe ander o/13 Craven week flanke mee te ding en dalk misgekyk sal word? Of Garsies waar daar dalk minder kompetisie en net so goeie afrigting is? Wat van Wilgers, af in die straat, maar wat nie kan saam blaf met die groot brakke nie? Dalk moet ons terugkeer na “die naaste skool aan jou adres” reël?
@Die Ken: Hey los ons manne uit!! Hulle niks aan julle gemaak. Behalwe vir die o16 span wat gewen het.
@Rugbymal: Ek stem saam met jou kommentaar ten opsigte van die spesifieke blogger maar ek dink dit is ‘n growwe veralgemening dat almal van tradisionele skole arrogant is. Dit is maklik om diegene wat arrogant is uit te ken. Ek is maar vir ‘n kort tydperk betrokke by ‘n Premier A-skool en kan eerlikwaar sê dat dit beslis nie die indruk is wat ek het van die sogenaamde tradisionele skole nie.
BosihaaiPa sal jou beter kan inlig oor die wedstryde wat op TV gewys word ens. Daar is televisieregte ens betrokke.
@Die Ken: Ek dink jy stel dit baie goed.
@Rugbyman: Ek begryp jou frustrasie en ek weet jy probeer hard om nie te emosioneel te reageer nie. Soms moet mens dit maar uit jou gestel kry en aanbeweeg. Dit is ook so dat mens net soveel dieselfde storie oor en oor kan aanhoor en dan sal reageer.
Terloops ek dink die gees Saterdag tussen Paul Roos en Paarl Gim op en van die veld was ook baie goed.
@bloues: @Rugbyman: tradisie ook nie. Ons almal moet maar hard werk vir ‘n sterk toekoms.
@Leelu: ek dink nie die man het ooit gese dat ons rugby rekrute en invoere het nie… die seuns is ons 1ste span is garsies en op 2 na was al die seuns al van ten minste graad 10 af in ons skool – meeste graad 8…
Net so terloops vind ek dit ironies komende van n klofie ouer, klofies wat eintlik die hele recruitment saak begin het in die middel 90s reeds… Julle het tog self n koshuis met heelwat kinders van buite pretoria… hulle is tog mos ook klofies net soos die kinders in ons koshuis garsies is! Hoe is ons o14s en o15s wat beide vir kloof gewen het ingevoer? Ek sal graag wil hoor hoe jy daai som maak?
Ten slotte dink ek dat Saterdag in goeie gees geskied het en dat die kompetisie gesond was tussen al die spanne en dat al die games lekker close was behalwe miskien die o15s wat garsies gemaklik gewen het…
Ek sê self gereeld op die blog dat ons in die ooste geseend is met ons keuses van skole… kloof is een van daai keuses
@CharlesZA: ek sien jul rugby lyk goed, sal ‘n paar manne Stellies toe moet trek…
@Rugbymal: Gaan nie maklik verander nie. Daar’s ongelukig elemente wat dink hul is verhewe bo sy medemens – laat ek terstonds noem, dis ‘n uitsondering, nie almal nie. Jy weet mos 99 manne kan hul goed gedra, maar daar’s altyd die 1 bliksem…. Ek kan jou nou erger horror stories vertel van sekere old boys in “tradisionele skole” wat ouers van seuns in DIESELFDE skool, niks gun nie. Eksklusiwiteit is ‘n nare ding.
@Rugbymal:
“Die arrogansie van die tradisionele skole slaan my dronk”…. Love that comment. Yip, arrogance runs deep in some. The same arrogance one sees at trials, the same you see at games, the same you see on blogs like these.
I must say congrats to Affies for the result on Saturday, well done Garsfontein for a hard fought victory over Waterkloof. But, the a HUGE shout out to Monument, awesome result, but I think the game should have been called off early.
@Rugbyman:
Well, seeing that the team that did not want to play your school last year, might see it possible soon, as they have an improved team this year?
@4×4: Ek is van mening dat al die skole op jou “avatar” goeie skole is wat betref akademie, sport, ontwikkeling van jou kind en dat al die skoolhoofde se integriteit bo verdenking is.
As ‘n Klofie ouer vind ek dit kommerwekkend dat jy agv jou afkeer in “rugby rekrute en beurse” vir Garsies bo Waterkloof en Affies kan plaas. Ek beweer glad nie dat Waterkloof en Affies nie beurse gee, maar vind dit vreemd dat jy ‘n skool met soveel “ingevoerde” spelers kan prys as ‘n skool sonder rekrute en beurse.
Ek dink Garsfontein is ‘n baie goeie skool (‘n vriend se seun speel vir die Bere en is baie gelukkig in die skool) wat op ‘n innoverende en buite die boks denkwyse skole rugby in die Ooste van Pretoria alreeds verander het.
Sterkte met jou keuse van hoerskool.
@Dok F: Wil jy nie weer iets vra oor een van ons seuns nie? Ons het lassweek ook gewen… Ek boast oor geen wen nie en kla nie oor n verloor nie… die feit dat jy dit nie weet nie wys jou absolute onkunde! Miskien moet jy jou bepaal by jou eie skool se games…
As n nuwe blogger wat nog nie veel gese het die laaste 3 weke nie en maar eerder gelees het wil ek graag die volgende kwyt raak. Ek het geen alliansie met enige skool of enigsins n kind wat speel nie so al my kommentaar is uit n liefde vir die spel en kinders.
Die arrogansie van die tradisionele skole slaan my dronk. Jammer dat die Minister van Onderwys hulle nie target en bietjie die appelkar omkeer nie.
Ek het nou die laaste posts van die AFFIE knaap “Bloues” gelees en sjoe ek dink hy is absoluut pateties en arrogant. Waar was hy laasjaar gewees toe dit nie so goed gegaan het nie.
Dink elke skool of hulle nou 300 of 3 spanne het het die reg om die spel van rugby te speel, te promote en om teen enige iemand te speel as hulle kan kompeteer.
Ek dink dat hierdie classic clashes en al die derglike TV dekkings dra by dat plaaslike skool derbys soos bv tussen skole indieselfde dorpe soos saterdag Garsfontein vs Waterkloof en Kempton vs Jeugland net so n belangrike rol tot ontwikkeling speel as wat derbys speel en geregtig op dieselfde publisiteit.
@Dok F: Bedoel jy nie Gapsfontein nie?
@bloues: My ma het altyd gesê mens moet nooit ‘n goeie geleentheid mis om net stil te bly nie.
Ek is so bly Garsies het vir ‘n slag gewen. Nou is my groot vriend Rugbyman weer op die lug. Hy was maar skaars die afgelope 3 weke. Lyk of hy permanent reg is om almal se vrae te beantwoord
@bloues: dink jy is bietjie hard op rugbyman, een van die ander manne het iets gese, gevra oor garsies. Dink meeste mense is nou al verby laas jaar se grap. Almal leer mos maar lesse soos die lewe aan gaan.
@bloues: Terloops… ek hoop jou gat kramp nou behoorlik en hou sommer laaaaaaaaaaaank aan!
@bloues: Jy verveel my…! Jy was die ou wat iets kwyt geraak het van een swaeltjie…? Jy gun duidelik nie die son oor ander nie… Gaan lees gerus die geskiedenis en jy sal vind dat almal maar hulle eie skole hier bemark! Ek voel eintlik jammer vir jou!
Terloops skeel dit my min of ons teen affies speel of nie! My lewe bestaan uit heelwat meer as n game teen affies… Maar gaan gerus voort met jou garsie-bashing – jy wys net jou ware kleure! Ek dink jou mede affie bloggers skaam hulle vir jou, jy gee die skool waarvoor jy so lief is rerig n slegte naam.
Ek hoop daar is lig vir jou!
Lekker nou ons wasgoed in die publiek gewas
@Rugbyman: wat ek eintlik vir jou wil se is dat geld nie als kan koop nie…
@Rugbyman: Doen asb julle bemarking ens tydens Garsfontein se ope dag. Ek sien nie dat een ander skool die weblad gebruik om vir ander mense te laat weet hoe “oulik” hulle skool is nie. Ek is bly as jy so dink maar bespreek dit asb by julle oueraande….sekere goed soos tradisie ens kan nie oornag geskep word nie en dit is hoekom sekere mense verkies dat hulle kinders na sekere skole gaan. Dis iets wat jy nie sal verstaan as jy nie self daar was nie. Ek praat geensins enige skool sleg nie maar kry n gatkramp elke keer as ek lees hoe oulik garsies dink hulle is…..beweeg aan en kom oor die feit dat julle nie laasjaar teen Affies kon speel nie
@GarsieOuer: Ek kan net praat van die ouderdomsgroep waar ek betrokke – ek weet dat die spelers in die A span beter is as die spelers in die B span en hulle is weer beter as die spelers in die C span. Ek weet die coaches kyk mekaar se wedstryde en sal dus talent raaksien. Die vaardigheidsvlakke en fisiese grootte van die laer spanne is die verskil, die vaardigheidsvlakke moet die coaches aanspreek, die grootte word deur die natuur aangespreek.
GarsieOuer. Te hoe premie word geplaas op watter span ‘n seun speel in plaas daarvan dat die premie moet wees dat jou kind dit geniet. Die geskiedenis het homself al hoeveel keer oor bewys dat Springbokke vir hulle skole se 3 en 4 spannne gespeel het en eers na skool ontwikkel het. Ek dink met respek dat jou seun homself moet toespits op kondisionering moontlikheid oorweeg om klub rugby by Tuks of Quins te speel en sy vaardighede te verbeter….ek dink dan sy hy nie baie langer geignoreer kan word nie.
Sit terug, ondersteun jou seun elke game want dit is vir jou ‘n absolute voorreg om eerstens ‘n seun te kan hê en tweedens die genot te kan ervaar om hom te sien rugby speel.
Ek het net een beletsel teen Garsies: as ‘n kind eers in ‘n laer span is, is dit amper onmoontlik om op te skuif. Daar is vir my nie ‘n goeie meganisme in plek nie. Maar ek het geen idee hoe mens dit sal doen nie.
@4×4: Dis baie interessant om n objektiewe laerskool ouer se opinie te hoor…
Ek het self kinders in laerskool lynnwood… 5, 6 jaar terug sou ek ook nie garsfontein oorweeg het nie! Maar nou is dit n heel ander storie… ek hou by my storie dat ons ouers in die ooste van pta baie bederf is met skool keuses…
Rugbyman…dit het inderdaad. Dit was altyd ‘n 50/50 tussen kloof en garsies. Dink dat Garsies se sport wat aansienlik verbeter het, gekoppel aan akademiese prestasie, die persepsie ten aansien van Garsies aansienlik verander het. Julle hoof is ook ‘n man wie se integriteit bo verdenking is.
Die persepsie ten aansien van Menlo het ook verander want van die ouers wat Menlo vroeër oorweeg het kyk reeds na alternatiewe aangesien hulle die mening toegedaan is dat hulle kinders nie op gelyke vlak kan kompeteer met kinders wat gekontrakteer word nie.
Dink Kloof kon vroeër ook staatmaak op die akademiese golf wat hulle gery het en die afgelope paar jaar aan Garsies afgestaan het. Waar ouers vroeër verby Garsies gery het oppad Kloof toe, is dit nou ‘n ander storie. Ek moet ook bysê dat die verkeer in die Ooste van Pretoria ‘n groot kopseer word en vermoed ek dat dit ook ‘n wesenlike invloed het, in ‘n mindere mate.
Garsies is besig om hulle te vestig as ‘n topskool. My persepsie ten aansien van Garsies het heeltemal verander…toe ek die boek begin lees het en nie net jou ore laat uitleen nie
@4×4: interessant dat jy sê die oorwegende groep gaan garsies toe… cp kinders het vroeer jare kloof verkies… het dit in jou opinie verander?
@BOG: Was bietjie die naweek in die verlore Sentrale streek. Heelwat rugby gekyk by die Rooi skool in Kroonstad en dan was dit O/13 Bondedag in Welkom.
Dink die Griffons en Leopards mag dalk sukkel by O/13 CW. Vorm spanne op hierdie vroeë stadium lyk my is die Lions en Valke.
Charlesza…dink dat ek my redelik sterk uitgespreek het op die onderwerp van rugby rekrute en en beurse en daarom is die skole se keuse beperk tot 2. Garsies het die afgelope 4 jaar ‘n merkwaardige ommekeer gemaak nie net wat hulle rugby aanbetref nie, maar is ook geldend in krieket, atletiek en dan is hulle akademie tops in Gauteng.
Affies se atletiek is altyd baie goed, hulle rugby is baie goed en akademie is hulle geldend, dus kan dit slegs ‘n persoonlike keuse wees waar jou kind dink hy gelukkig sal wees.
Rugbyman….vir my seun was dit uiters veeemd dat Affies tydens hulle besoek aan die skool nie hulle 1ste span gestuur het om die skool te “pund” nie, maar het hulle skool se A-Menere, Power of Affies gesing en het Pretoria se mees geliefde rugby coach se seun ‘n “run over” van die skool gegee. At Oosthuizen is baie objektief as dit kom by skole in Ooste van Pretoria en sou my seun Affies kies sal hy die uitsondering op die reel wees want die oorwegende groep gaan Garsies toe.
@Rugbyman: Wel, miskien kan julle eerste julle voet in die deur kry by daai nuwe “onwikkeling”, skuins oorkant Woodhill.
@CharlesZA: seker @4×4 sal die kaap ook oorweeg as julle dit die moeite werd maak…lol
@CharlesZA: LOL
Net bietjie vriendelike banter… ek ken hom en sy seun glad nie
Sien hierdie blog word nou as n recruiting tool gebruik ook. Dalk kan 4×4 vir ons bietjie meer vertel van die proses siende dat die manne so hard vry na sy seun.
@BOG: ja… ek sien ahms is ook op daai lys… die skole wat nie tjok en blok vol is nie word getarget…
@AffieOuer: Duidelik bcom bemarking agter die blad sien ek…?
@4×4: Ons gaan volgende jaar n baie sterk o14 groep hê… Ou at oosthuisen by cp is mos maar n groot affie liefhebber… ek kan jou egter verseker jou kind sal baie gelukkig by ons skool wees… garsies het baie verander die laaste 5 jaar en gaan van krag tot krag… ek vermoed jy het die gees gister by ons geniet?
Ek merk dat n paar eksklusief Afrikaans medium skole in Tshwane eersdaag dubbelmedium gaan word. Lyk my sokker sal dan ook moontlik n meer prominente rol speel?
@4×4: ek sien Affies se strepie is darem eerste…hoop julle keuse vir hoërskool ook! Dit is n groot besluit. Uit my ervaring het Pretoria n besonderse ryk keuse v goeie lekker Afrikaanse skole. Die beste skool is die skool waar jou kind WIL wees. Sterkte met die besluit. Bring maar vir boetie vlgde week na die plaas toe … Hy sal n ryk voorsmakie kry van Affiegees by die Affie-Waterkloof derby :-D…o ja en die admin is niks…seker daar is n groot saamryklub Affies toe van daar
Rugbyman..huidig by CP.. Dus sal dit ‘n senario wees dat die een skool die naaste aan my huis sal wees en die ander baie administrasie tot gevolg sal hê.
Reeds ook gehoor dat baie van die kookwater onder 13 Garsfontein Span is oppad na Garsies toe dus behoort julle volgende jaar baie goeie onder 14 span in die veld te kan stoot.
Julle manne doen baie goeie werk en die rugby wat julle speel is opwindend vs wat ek nog steeds dink stampkar rugby is van Affies. Maar soos julle ook al soveel keer opgemerk het, is dat jou kind gelukkig moet wees in sy skool, dus sal die oorwegende besluit by hom berus.
@4×4: ons voel geëerd om in die running te wees… watter laerskool is jou seun?
@AffieOuer: Nee wat moenie te veel worry nie… ek weet by verre die meeste van julle affie manne is smart ouens… elke skool het mos maar so paar gifappeltjies…
Djou…ek soek nog huis. Paar ope dae wat volg maar vermoed dit sal tussen Garsies en Affies wees. Seun sal maar die deurslaggewende besluit neem. Gevolglik woon ons maar die rugby wedstryde by om onder andere die gees van die skole te toets en myns insiens staan die 2 kop en skouers bo die andet uit.
@Rugbyman: ja ek het ook my opinie oor die gevegte in die binnekamer maar ek gaan my maar weerhou om dit te publiseer…beter so! n Toe bek is n heel bek
Wat daai kommentaar oor die swaeltjies betref – jammer daaroor! Dis ongevraagd en onvanpas gewees…net jammer en (skaam) dat iemand dit kwyt raak wat met Affies assosieer…kan jou verseker Affies respekteer ons mede Pretoria skole in elke opsig en dis altyd lekker as daar goeie rugby gespeel word, ongeag watter trui oor die kop getrek word!!!!! Van die os op die jas – dit klink of gister n great derby opgelewer het, net jammer ons kon dit nie live volg nie…niemand het tellings getweet nie 
@akw: ek was bly ek was nie hulle nie… dit moes blerrie warm in daai pakkies gewees het! Maar ek skat daar was tussen 8 en 9 duisend mense?
@Rugbyman: Die foto sluit nie nie die 2 marmoset bere in nie….
@akw: Dit was great dat daar so baie mense was! Ongelooflike atmosfeer geskep vir die drama op die veld! Die seuns leef vir sulke games! Hiers n facebook link met n foto wat jy sal geniet:
https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1663749750521003&id=100006579821114&set=a.1393340660895248.1073741830.100006579821114&source=48
Dit was senutergend maar baie entertaining! Daai o15s se back is asemrowend goed… hulle het fantastiese driee gedruk!
Die tafel is nou reeds gedek vir volgende jaar se kloof vs garsies game! Dit sal weer netso awesome wees!
Die tonnel van kinders vir Garsies se 1ste span het amper reg oor die veld gestrek. Was ‘n awesome dag. Sulke dae moet goed wees vir skole rugby, al speel die skole nie al sedert die runderpes teen mekaar nie.
Ook net Garsies se /15a span noem, hulle het loshande die beste rugby van die dag gespeel.
@McCulleys Workshop:
It is a great cause and fantastic that schools are getting involved in such campaigns. Unfortunately – it will remain a lost cause until government get firmly behind the issue and stop paying lip service to the problem. Let’s be honest – if they really wanted to stop Rhino poaching, they could and would. But it won’t get anyone elected and there is nothing to skim off the top on this one so I’m afraid the Rhino is doomed.
@AffieOuer: Dis hartseer… ek gaan nou nie weer die hele debat oopgooi nie, maar skole wat so teen mekaar ontrek en weier om teen mekaar te speel oor in my opininie onbenulighede sal die rede wees dat ons rugby in noordvaal en spesifiek pta skade lei… ons kaapse vriende op die blog het al male sonder tal verwys oor hoe ons onder mekaar baklei… vat nou maar weer marais viljoen wat vir die 1ste keer weer in die makro skole Beeld trofee speel… maandag middag toe laat weet hulle vir EG Jansen hulle gaan nie meer teen hulle speel nie… waarheen is ons oppad?
Maar soos daar al baie gese is: sit 4 afrikaners in n kamer dan kry jy 6 verskillende kerke, 12 verskillende politieke oortuigings en 7 rugbyspanne in daai vertrek… ons is rerig goed daarmee om oor als te verskil en mekaar af te trek… vat nou maar die opmerking gisteraand op die post oor die BHP top 50 van een van jou mede affie trui draers oor een swaeltjie maak nie n somer nie… ai dis so hartseer! Die nerhalende attitude van hom af stel my teleur…
Terloops geluk met julle wen oor KES! Julle moes baie goed gespeel het om daai score op te sit – KES is nie n slegte span nie!
@Gungets Tuft: Great Cause, and way better than beating your own drum.
@Djou: het nog nie oë gehad op al die tellings nie, gewoonlik op Maandae gepubliseer. Ek vermoed ons het redelik skoonskip gemaak. Ek moet egter my hoed afhaal vir KES. Daardie seuns tackle deur die bank pragtig en speel met oorgawe. Baie seuns kan by hulle gaan leer hoe om jou kop hoog te hou as dit moeilik gaan en steeds alles te gee!! Ek hoop ou @roger lees my kommentaar want hy mag maar trots wees op sy skool ten spyte v d telling!!
@AffieOuer: Garsies sal beslis 28 spanne kan inskryf. 15 rugbyspanne en 13 netbalspanne.
Great wen vir Paarl Gim teen Paul Roos. En ek verneem die telling vlei vir Paul Roos wat in die laaste gedeelte van die wedstryd 2 driee gedruk het om dit respektabel te laat lyk.
In die algemeen ‘n goeie rugbynaweek – Grey wen weer, Garsies wen weer, Eldoraigne bou voort op ‘n goeie seisoen en Paarl Gim wen steeds!
@Affieouer: Vir interessantheid, hoeveel wedstryde het Affies gewen en wat was die tellings? Ek moet egter sê ek het ‘n telling van by die 70 punte verwag te oordeel aan die ander uitslae van die 2 skole.
@4×4: nee daardie trein het vertrek uit die stasie….nie nou nie, nie gou nie. Soos ons die Dok ken gaan daar BAIE water in die see moet loop….
@4×4: Dit sal help as jy die Affiemanne kan kry om te praat daaroor. Garsies is bereid, het reeds uitgevind. Die probleem is nader aan jou huis.
@Anti Green: Agree, it was an enjoyable post. I was at the match and the respect the schools showed each other on and off the field was amazing. In fact it had been like that for years. After all, they went to the same primary schools.
As for the match itself, Waterkloof played their hearts out in the first half. They dominated possession, they won the ball on their and Garsies’ scrums and lineouts and play was mostly in Garsies’ 22m area. Garsies played poorly, to say the least. So, it was a bit surprising that Waterkloof was only 17-6 ahead come half time.
Garsies managed some possession after half time and tackled like mad. But once they scored the first try, it was evident from Waterkloof’s body language that they knew what was coming. Garsies squandered a number of try scoring opportunities, but still managed the three tries. When the match ended Garsies was on Waterkloof’s tryline, again.
But as Rugbyman said, the match was played in such good spirit. At one point a Garsie player was injured and in some pain. A player from Waterkloof ran up to the ref and alerted him to the fact after which the player was attended to.
@4×4: ek sou nie gister as n debakel beskryf nie. Daar is 28 rugby spanne in die veld gestoot en KES het gesorg vir lekker harde rugby oor die algemeen. KES speel altyd met oorgawe en dwing op enige dag respek by hulle opponente af. Ek wil dit kategories stel dat hulle nie n 92-0 span is nie. Affies het net gister baie goed gespeel- dit was soos n Tsunami wat net bly kom het! Die span kombineer goed en het deur die hele wedstryd pragtig by hulle struktuur gehou. KES het tot op die einde bly veg maar kon net nie die momentum stop nie.
Just realized the Hilton and Glenwood also have 1 result fewer. Only way out is to drop the score between Kearsney and College from the calculation
And there’s a challenge out to House, Hilton and St Stithians —–> http://bit.ly/1H9uF07
@McCulleys Workshop: @Gungets Tuft:
@Stripes: But then Westville beat Kearsney and Kearsney beat College. It’s hardly ever linear. The top team in KZN is worked out on a points basis, using the first game if there are return fixtures such as College vs Westville this year and the House vs Hilton returns. If there’s a tie on points then I’m not sure, perhaps the result between the two teams that tied. Right now house look favorites, but the missing match screws the scoring, House play one match fewer.
Rugbyman…daar is dalk nie nuus tussen die administrateurs van Garsies en Affies met betrekking tot die herinstel van die interskole tussen hulle nie?
@Pedantic: I agree a WV vs House game would be great. I was looking at the WV record so far this year and it says they lost to Glenwood and College earlier in the season? If that is correct then I am sure Glenwood and College will argue that they are above WV?
@4×4: die gees tussen die 2 skole se administrateurs was ook goed… beste ooit dink ek!
Rugbyman…die gees tussen die seuns is altyd goed….tussen die administrateurs van die skole, nou daai is ‘n storie vir ‘n ander dag. Moet sê dit was sprankel rugby wat Garsies opgedis het.
Na gister se Affies – Kes debakel sal daar hopelik lig opgaan en die Affies -Garsies interskole weer volgende jaar heringestel word. My ma het altyd gesê niemand is te groot om te erken as hy ‘n fout gemaak het nie, inteendeel dit spreek boekdele van ‘n mens se karakter.
@Rugbyman: What a Lekker post, straight from the heart.
@4×4: Menlo en GW het nie gespeel nie…
@4×4: tx… ja daai comeback van 13 – 25 af is in geen coaching manual nie… ons was rerig nie goed in die 1ste helfte nie, maar fiksheid en guts het ons die game laat wen… in 2013 het kloof van agter af gekom om ons 36 – 34 te klop, hierdie jaar is dit ons beurt! Die wiel draai mos maar en kloof sal weer hulle beurt kry! Ons is dankbaar vir die wen! Dit was n 50/50 game wat enige kant toe gegaan het… Die klofies seuns het werklik hulle harte uitgespeel – welgedaan aan hulle!
Ek moet sê dat die hele dag in fantastiese gees geskied het! Great rugby van o14 af tot bo! Die 2 skole respekteer mekaar! Dis great en dis hoe sport moet wees!
Rygbyman..baie geluk met julle oorwinning teen Kloof. Was soos ek voorspel het, ‘n nailbiter. ‘n Mens kan seuns kan seuns afrig, maar die guts is inherent wat Garsie gister gewys het. Jammer Klofies..daarom word daar vir 70 minute rugby gespeel en die beserings het ook nie bygedra nie, maar nietemin aanskoulike rygby gewees.
Lyk my Affies se krieket seisoen het vroeg begin?
Wat het met Menlo en GW gebeur?
@McCulleys Workshop: Ja, I was with a mate from Northwood. He was pissed off, Northwood he said were making a comeback.
I was hacked. Bloody Midlands Ref
@Anti Green: These damn cheating Midlands refs, they could have won it from there
@Pedantic: That game should be called(MHS vs Westville) played at Kingspark main curtain raiser. Might pull some supporters to the Shark Tank
@McCulleys Workshop: And the Ref blew the game 2:30 mins early.
@BoishaaiPa: 7-0 haltyd. Kwaggas druk net na halftyd. 7-5
Was 16-10 op n tyd toe druk Outeniqua weer.16-15.
Druk drie in linker hoek met 2 minute oor en skop hulle eerste skop van dag oor.
@Pedantic:
Yeah – well done. Sounds like you’ve been celebrating.
@h2o: Looks like Westville are building some momentum – if they can keep it up I reckon they could win all their remaining fixtures including GW and College. A pity there is no WV / MHS fixture this year to decide the top KZN team.
@GreenBlooded: I guess with your hybrid College/GW jersey in the 2015 season, it wouldn’t be very entertaining
Was very entertaining for me, teams trading points, no-one ever getting the upper hand, huge defence in the “red zone” (in the 5 metre close to the tryline for those who use the lawbook) and finished off by an incredible try by the Kearsney 7 – what a game!
The Kearsney (and odd Westville) supporters around me were pretty unanimous that Kearsney deserved every inch of the game.
Well done One-Stripe – not many years we get the GW / College double
Westville 25-0 v Pretoria boys.
Kearsney 23 College 20. Not the most entertaining game to watch. Heaps of aimless kicking, lots of missed goal kicks (mostly by College) and not much in the way of structured thought-out play by either team. Kearsney fans around me unanimously agreed that College deserved it more – can’t say I agree. Kriel should have had a game in the seconds to dust the cobwebs off and should have handed over the kicking tee much earlier than he did when he was clearly off song. Some of the tactical decisions by College were confounding – like taking a scrum from a penalty in front of the posts at 20-23 down with 6 mins to go. Crazy stuff.
Bottom line – the 20-23 scoreline was flattering to both teams…….
Eish the Reds might be feeling a bit pink today…. commiserations to them the boy who left SACS for KES must be dreading his decision …. SACS beat Affies and Kes eish ja neh…… that is why I think we should be rather be playing Saints Davids, Potch boys and Bennies. Speaking about the wanna be boys school from Bedfordview Bennies. Near whitewash for Jeppe spoilt by biased school masters helping their school for brevity here are the scores Jeppe versus Bennies scores :
1st XV 36 – 13
2rd XV 22 – 22
U16 a 47 – 7
U15 a 58 – 17
U14 a 22 – 5
Kids go home feeling happy and they have had decent competitive rugby games. Just my ten cent on playing these Afrikaans powerhouses …. we will be in Pretoria in two weeks hope by then they have scored their seasons quota of cricket scores
Die kolfblaaie op KES en Monnas het duidelik nie die boulers bevoordeel nie.
Geluk aan Garsies, dit was guts wat die knoop deurgehak het.
@Djou: Agreed Djou
@CharlesZA: Op webrugby was die telling 19-0 op n stadium..was dit dan verkeerd?
Glenwood 2nd 29 – Voortrekker 1st 10.
Krieket scores.
Monnas 108-0 Rustenburg.
MHS 78 – 3 Northwood
Nelspruit 48 Witbank HTs 10
Outeniqua 22-16 Stellenberg. Kwaggas druk drie en skop oor in laaste minuut. Was lekker harde game gewees. Kwaggas en gevaarlike agterlyn met 10 en 15 wat uitgestaan het. Voor het 8 vir Kwaggas ook mooi die bal gedra. Vir Stellenberg het 9 goeie diens gegee en mooi geskop van loskrams. 3 het paar keer bal mooi gedra en goeie meters gemaak.
Outeniqua al die o19 wedstryde gewen. O16/15 en 14a is deur Stellenberg gewen. O14 game was gewen 9-8 met strafskop in beseringstyd.
Garsies 27 – 25 Waterkloof!
Dankie kloof vir n klipharde game!
Linden 36 – 20 Randburg in a very entertaining match. First time the game was played as an FNB Classic Clash.
SACS 27 – Rondebosch 15. The boys march on.
Blikkies. Kes o-73
Dit is eina. Kes 0 Affies 59 vroeg in 2 de helfte
@kosie:
AHS Kroonstad 33-5 Goudveld FT
Garsies v Klofies…gaan ‘n nailbiter wees! Sterkte seuns!
@Kosie: Jy en Barry raak ‘n baie kritieke punt aan. Ek dink Garsies speel vandag teen Waterkloof slegs hul tweede wedstryd tuis. Die koste is allemintig en toekouers kry nie kans om hul eie span te sien nie. So, dit wil amper voorkom of die rugbyvelde net oefengeriewe geword het.
Ek dink die skole moet hul voete begin neersit en beter beplanning doen. Bv. die Tuksreeks kan vanaf die halfeindronde eers op LC gespeel word en die organiseerders van die reeks kan kyk hoeveel wedstryde ‘n span verlede jaar tuis en weg gespeel het en dit die volgende jaar omdraai.
@Rugger fan: I meant it is widespread. Perhaps “every school” is too strong a phrase as I know some schools show utmost respect. But no matter what you do, one unfortunately can’t control the crowd. So, it will happen and in this way you learn a lot about people.
@Rugbyman: Bo en behalwe die skop, was daar ander toeskouers van Nelspruit wat hele wedstryd deur aanmerkings (lelik) gemaak het. En ek verwys na die Tuksreeks halfeindstryd verlede jaar waar ondersteuners (kinders) geskree het net toe die speler skop.
@PaarlBok: You had a total blood transfusion then because you had very green , yellow and ” red ” blood in the past .
@Andre T: Podcast van vandag se uitsending?
@Roger: Roger – a bit late – but available now from the college newsletter:
Maritzburg College hosted a highly rated KES team on a very hot and humid day on Goldstones. College were once again outweighed up front and needed to as-sert their authority early on to ensure that KES did not get any momentum with their bigger boys.
The plan to hit them hard from the kick off worked, and the College team raced into a commanding lead after just 10 minutes of powerful running and huge defensive pressure.
Xolisa Guma (2), Jean de Wet and Charl Frackers all scored tries in this frantic 1st half. Ruben van Blerk weighed in with 3 conversions to finish off the 26 points scored before the half-time whistle. KES had managed to catch the College de-fence on the back foot in between the four College tries to make the half-time score 26-5 in College’s favour.
It was apparent that the College boys had eased off on the intensity in the last few minutes of the first half and it was concerning that they possibly believed that they had already done enough to secure victory. Our fears were justified when KES started the second half with a quick try following a charge down from an attempted clearance kick. The next 20 minutes were all KES as they chose to keep the ball in hand and throw caution to the wind.
Instead of exposing this high risk play from the opposition with a controlled defensive effort, the College boys opted to defend the total and wait for the op-position to run at them. This lapse in concentration and effort played into the visitors’ hands and the momentum swung dramatically.
One-on-one tackles were missed and KES were grateful for the lack of urgency from their hosts. With 9 minutes to go KES were suddenly within range and the entire game had been turned on its head and with just one minute to go College suddenly found themselves down 33-29 after a soft try from KES off the back of the scrum.
College boys have been famous for their never say die attitude and they only had one shot to live up to this accolade. The home team suddenly reverted to what they do best and used their structure to keep possession through more than ten phases.
In the knowledge that any mistake would bring the game to an end, their compo-sure was admirable. The pressure of this good passage of play caused the KES players to infringe and the penalties started coming, with College now intent on rectifying their lacklustre second half performance. Some quick thinking, great passing and pace out wide allowed Kudzai Munagi to score a match winning try. The conversion was missed but the game was won 34-33.
Whilst the College boys will acknowledge that they played poor rugby for most of the second period, their ability to keep composure under pressure was admira-ble. One will never know just why the boys lost their momentum but they will need to make this right in the weeks to come. College boys do not miss tackles and they certainly let themselves down in this department.
Well done to KES for their brilliant come back and thank you for your part in what was a great advert for schoolboy rugby.
Scorers
Tries
Xolisa Guma (2)
Jean de Wet
Charl Frackers
Kudzai Munangi
Conversions
Ruben van Blerk (3)
Penalty
Ruben van Blerk
COLLEGE 1st XV vs KES
@Djou: die skree geval waarna jy verwys was laasjaar in die beeld finaal toe een van nelspruit se toeskouer kliphard gegil het toe garsies se 10 pale toe geskop het om die game te probeer wen… ek dink hts mid is onskuldig, so jy moet vir rooibul jammer sê…
@Rugger fan: You wont see that happen at Brug street or Markotter ….you will hear vocal support, but no abuse of any kind is tolerated….Some good hearted banter between the younger old boys is usually heard along the sidelines, but never abuse directed at refs or players.
@Rugger fan: I was present at a primary school festival in Bloem a few years ago where fisty cuffs were used to settle some unknown issue. Needless to say, both schools were not invited again!
It was bad for the kids of both schools. I could not believe my eyes. Bad behaviour from so called role models
@Rugbyman: No angels – and yes – it does occur in KZN (the Westville/Kearsney was an example).
Djou said – “Wye probleem…alle skole” – so he seems to be saying it’s widespread and common wherever he stays and watches his rugby (sorry – I’m not sure where that is – could even be here in KZN)???
@Rugger fan: geez… bunch of angels in KZN? I beg to differ… it is not widespread up here and happens in isolated cases… it also happens in kzn in isolated cases! Djou was simply saying that it is unfortunate that there are spectators like that around…
@Barry: ek sal navraag doen na die voorval waarna jy verwys en dit aanspreek. Jammer daaroor. Elke skool het maar mense wat nie weet hoe om hulle te gedra nie…
@Andre T: Ek het net die laaste 10 minute gevang..sommige van ons moet werk…Hoekom klink jy deesdae so erg “Tronsvols”?…
@Djou: “Maar dit is ‘n wye probleem – en dit kom voor by alle skole.”
Djou – on this I disagree. I have had the fortune of attending a few SBR matches in KZN over the past few years.
It is an exception to have crowd abuse towards the refs / players or other spectators.
If it is something that occurs regularly in your region then perhaps it is more a reflection on the tolerance or parental culture in that area? Even up in Pretoria a few weeks back – I was in the stands amongst the PBHS parents (and they were loosing) – no abuse or poor sporting comments were being shouted.
@kosie: @Andre T: Stem saam – ek het ook n ruk vandag geluister.
@Andre T: Ek het so bietjie ingeskakel (tik) en julle daar by Radio Ruggas gevolg. Ek wil jou komplimenteer
Dit is ‘n wonderlike inisiatief van julle! Jou gaste is ook kenners. Well done!
@Barry @Rooibul:
Jammer dat julle skole se name moet noem, maar ek stem saam dat dit uiters onaanvaarbare gedrag is en ek sal poog om dit onder die Garsies se aandag te bring.
Maar dit is ‘n wye probleem – en dit kom voor by alle skole. Verlede jaar by Nelspruit in die Beeldfinaal was daar ‘n paar Nellie-ondersteuners (skat hulle was in hul 20’s) wat heeltyd die Garsie-manne sleggese het. In so ‘n mate dat ander Nellie-ondersteuners hulle gevra het om stil te bly of elders ‘n plek te gaan soek.
En Rooibul, onthou jy in verlede jaar se Tuksreeks op LC toe ‘n speler van die opponerende span pale toe skop en die HTS Middelburg ondersteuners geskree het net toe die speler skop.
Dit is ongelukkig so dat sommige mense geen maniere het nie – en dit is jammer dat julle 2 skole daarvoor uitsonder. Ek dag ek wys julle net op wat jul ondersteuners doen en dat hulle nie onskuldig is nie. En dat mense nooit klippe moet gooi terwyl hul huise nie in orde is nie.
Ons is ‘live’ vandag om 12h00 op Radio Ruggas……..Gaste….
Beet
Kattes Kruger van die Kaap
Rooibul
Ploegskaar
Rugbyman
Sean Erasmus
Sakel ook more in om 13h15 vir Garsies vs Waterkloof
@Tandem: My bloed is maroen.
@GreenBlooded: Who is Paarl ?
@PaarlBok: Who do you support ?
@Barry: Ek kry julle regtig jammet met die afstande wat julle moet ry. Elke keer 3 uur se ry Gauteng toe om nie eers van die kostes te praat nie.
Net om perspektief te behou kan ek sê dat Eldoraigne Saterdag hul 12 wedstryd speel en net 1 daarvan was tuis. Gelukkig volg daar 3 tuis games daarna. Dit beteken dat hulle hierdie jaar net 4 van die 15 games tuis speel wat beteken hulle speel slegs 26% wedstryde tuis.
Hulle is egter baie nader as Nelspruit aan die ander skole so dit maak tog ‘n vetskil.
@Barry: Ek dink dit kan ‘n fantastiese dag wees vir beide skole. Die Affiemanne hou van toer, en hierdie een is lekker naby, en kan kompeterend wees vir al die spanne as dit reg gereël word. Die gees op die paviljoene kan ook net goed wees, veral as die hokkie, tennis, tafeltennis, verspoeg, jukskei, en ander kategorieë ook kan deelneem. Ek is ook maar net ‘n Affie ouer wie se seun hierdie jaar in elk geval klaar maak, maar dit sal darem lekker wees om Laeveld toe te ry vir ‘n langnaweek in die toekoms.
@Cappie: Ek gooi jou idee oor na die skool toe. Ek is maar net ‘n ouer.
Kom ek sê jou een ding. Ons sien ons seuns so min speel want die meeste van die wedstryde vind in Gauteng plaas, dan kan ons as ouers dalk hierby baat ook. Ons speel Saterdag ons 10de wedstryde, maar slegs die derde by die huis.
Ons ‘eerste’ wedstryde (proewe) was hierdie jaar teen Waterkloof gewees.
@Tang: Special indeed. He made SA Schools while at Dale in Grade 10 – there were no under 16s back then.
@Tang: @Rugger fan: He was a great loss indeed. He came in from Dale Junior (after having coached the under 13As for 6 years – 4 of them unbeaten) at a time when Dale rugby was heading into free-fall, and literally saved us from going into the wilderness. Much appreciated.When he left he went to St Albans and took two 1st team players with him ( Mandilakhe Tile and Lutho Nyeka).Much to our disgust.
Hence I found it hard to blame KES when the exodus of boys to KES happened because I knew the man and especially how he worked. Once he got into your head, you would do anything for him. He had the ‘they score one try, you score three’ mentality. Few coaches can match his attack capabilities. He converted Keegan Daniels and Tera Mthembu from centre to loosies. He was the kind of guy who would watch a 6th team game on a Saturday, spot a player, and on Monday that boy would be on the CB Jennings A field practicing with the 1st XV. I know 3 guys who played under him in 2003 & 2004 who had not played rugby throughout high school, but that year, he called them in and ‘convinced’ them to join his squad. He’s that kind of guy. Despite how I felt about him back then, if we were going to war and he asked me to serve under him, I wouldn’t hesitate.
@LindenPa – Scarra matriculated at KES. He was one hell of a schoolboy player.
@Tang: Agreed – the Spillhaus team on Saturday were absolutely shell-shocked by going into a 21 point deficit in the opening minutes of the game.
They did not lie down and were 33 – 29 up with minutes to go. And most were from great counter attacks and prolonged positive runs at the College line
I normally don’t make predictions of the games as my track record is atrocious. I will however make an exception this week and make the following prediction:
Port Natal by 5;
Vredendal by 10;
Voortrekker( Beth) by 50;
St Davids by 10; and
Labori by 5.
The rest could go any way
@Playa – I think he played for Wits in 2014 and then went down to Rovers this year.
I remember the big scandal in 2009 when KES got all the Dale imports. I think there were three or four. Esterhuizen, Jobo, Ntubeni that I knew about.
I remember speaking to the PBHS locks after the match against KES in 2009 and they were said they had never played the boys at age group level.
They were certainly excellent players for KES and made them a force in 2009 and 2010.
The 2009/ 2010 KES versus PBHS fixtures were epic battles. KES won both home fixtures and PBHS managed to turn the tables when they played in Pretoria.
One thing I have noticed about all Spilhaus teams is how effectively they attack. I think the 2012 team had one of the best and most attacking back lines I have ever watched (I can only recall the Affies 2013 team and Grey 2012 team looking more dangerous). Spilhaus must have been a great loss to Dale. He always seems to get more out of the boys.
@Tang: Eish…Esterhuizen…another one we lost to the Reds. I think (someone correct me if I am wrong) he had a stint in Durban playing for Rovers a year or so ago.
@Barry: Ek dink die tyd is ryp vir ‘n lekker interskole op Nelspruit tussen Affies en alle moontlike skole wat kan deelneem daar om 30 goeie wedstryde vir Affies te verseker. Al die A-spanne speel teen Nelspruit se A-spanne, C’s teen Nelspruit se B-spanne, B’s teen Middelburg Hoër A’s (of wie julle ook kan identifiseer wat goeie wedstryde kan verseker), ens…
Affies het 1 tot 10 ope
O’16, o’15 en o’14 A tot G.
Affies het altyd hulle eerste wedstryde in Kimberley gaan speel, maar die het nou opgehou, en is vervang met wedstryde teen Helpmekaar. Die vullerwedstryde word egter in die week gespeel, en ek dink die Nelspruit trip kan net ‘n wenner wees…
@Rugger fan: AMADODA for life…small town boy desperately treading water in a gigantic pond
@Roger – It was 2009. First game of the season.
Boys High had a kick to win the game, missed the kick. Senna Esterhuizen never dotted dead. KES ran the ball from the in goal area and scored under the sticks. Boys High were gutted after the loss and it took them half the season to recover.
You are right about Marx, he played in 2010 and not 2009. KES also had Wandile Mjekevu and Jared Meyer. I think many of the guys I mentioned are still playing pro rugby.
Jobo is at the Cheetahs, Mjekevu is in France (Perpignan), Estrhuizen is also at Wits and I think Jarred Meyer played for the Sharks.
Mjekevu had that great season for the Lions in Super Rugby. Mjekevu had a was tall and thin at school but he had a wicked step off either foot.
I think 2009 was also the first year of Spilhaus being in charge.
@ROOIBUL: A big bane of SBR across the country – parents who abuse/talk smack/put unfair pressure on kids/swear etc.
Not a good example at all!
@Playa: I see you’re from Dale – down in Cape Town
@ROOIBUL: Ek stem saam met jou. Ek was Saterdag by die TUKS-Finale en daar was ouers wat die vieslikste goed vir skeidsregters en spelers gegil het. Ek het later my kop in skaamte laat sak.
Ek het veral die Nellies vs Garsfontein o/16 wedstryd gekyk en tussen die ouers van Garsfontein gestaan. Ek het geensins aangedui vir watter skool ek ondersteun nie. Daar was een oomie daar wat woorde kwyt geraak het wat nie eers in ‘vloekboeke’ verskyn nie. ” Jammer Oom dat ek jou nou ‘uitpiek’ maar regtig dis onaanvaarbaar en onverantwoordelik, want daar staan ouers met jong kinders ook langs die veld wat jou lopende kommentaar teenoor die skeidsregter duidelik kon hoor! Siesa man” Ek wil net ook kwalifiseer, dis nie alle ouers en ondersteuners nie, dis enkelinge.
@MonnasOB: @jakes:
I am so glad you guys are mentioning the attitude of player and especially the attitude of the spectators. I really enjoyed the final between EGJ and Monnas.
But there’s nothing more irritating on the pavilion than the bad mouthing of the spectator, for example the one dad from Monnas, Lets call him …. Van-tasties…
What I enjoyed the most of this final, was the quietness of the Monnas spectators on the pavilion. If you compare the losing Monnas spectators to the winning spectators “Grootbekke”
Great EGJ you played well and left the Monnas spectators speechless. Monnas you have an excellent team, but I must think that some days the boys on the field get so embarrassed because of their spectators on the pavilion. And this is the only reason why other people don’t like Monnas, because of their spectators.
I am sorry that I had to mention this, nothing agents Monnas just their spectators. I enjoy and love schoolboy rugby; I also enjoy it when a school have an excellent team and when they are doing well, like Monnas , I don’t just support my school I support schoolboy rugby.
@Rugger fan: @GreenBlooded: Hahahahahahaha fair enough!
@GreenBlooded: Agreed! And the only thing between Van Reenen and Colesburg is Bloem!
@Rugger fan:
For me – anything south of Colesburg is Cape Town. And anything west of Van Reenens is Joburg.
Hilton by 25+
Ville by 20
College by 2
House by 25+
School by 15
Affies by 40+
Menlo by 10
Paarl by 30+
Paul Roos by 7
SACS by 20
@Playa: For us rooinekke here in KZN it’s all just Cape Town on the other side of the Brandewyn Curtain
@Rugger fan: Hahahaha…Paarl, Stellies, same difference, hey.
@Maroon: Sorry – meant Stellies
@Rugger fan: What Paarl Derby? Paul Roos is in Stellenbosch. Do you refer to the Boland Landbou vs Boishaai game.
Ok let’s start the not-so-Super-Bru predictions:
Hilton by 20
Ville by 10
College by 3
House by 25
DHS by 25
St Charles by 8
Grey College by 10
Waterkloof by 5
Affies by 20
Glenwood by 15
Jeppe by 15
Boland Landbiu by 5
Gym by 5
SACS by 10
Linden by 10
Match of the day must be the Paarl Derby
PRG vs Gim, nog 1 slapie.
@Umtata: Just smile and wave…
@Grasshopper: Your1987 headboy did post matric at Dale in ’88…he pays dues to the ODU, owns the blazer and tie, contributes financially to the school and even plays for the ODU Herons at the CT 10s. He could be doing the same for Glenwood, but I’m not privy to that. In his CV, under schooling he has Glenwood/Dale College. It’s an individual’s choice at the end of the day.
Check Brent Russel’s CV…he interestingly has both St Stithians and Selborne in it.
@Rugger fan:
Hauw – yes.
Mr Beet – please fix the typo. You have to make allowances for doff okes like me.
@McCulleys Workshop: Why not go the ‘whole hog’ and claim Wim Visser ( post matric 1988 ) and Richard Parks ( post matric 1996, on exchange from Monmouth ) who ended playing for Whales
@GreenBlooded: You’re in the right place – just the topic has taken it’s normal round about way to get there – there is a “spelling/numerical” error in the title – check the table and you’ll see all the matches are for 16 – not 10 May!
When does the thread go up for this weekend’s games? Pageing Mr Beet? Mr Beet – please come to reception……
@Roger: They should claim him, I thought he did most of his schooling there? The greater question is do MHS claim Herkie Kruger…
@Roger: deflection
nah, it has been flogged like the bloke in 12 years a slave!
@Umtata: you’re right – been beaten to death.
@MonnasOB: Hi Meneer..jou boodskap klink vir my bietjie na suurdruiwe jong. Dink jy rugby word deur engeltjies gespeel en is daar net engeltjies in jou span? Ek het ‘n surprise vir jou. Aanvaar nou maar die verloor en beweeg aan.
Baie geluk aan Dr EG Jansen met hul puik wen oor Monnas, hulle het baie goed gespeel en hul huiswerk gedoen en Monnas goed gekonfronteer op hul sterkpunte. Ek sien uit na hul volgende kragmetings die jaar ( daar behoort twee te wees). Waarna ek nie uitsien is nie is die gees waarin EG die game speel, dit sluit almal in, hul afrigters, ondersteuners en natuurlik sal dit dan deursyfer na die seuns. Die vuil, geniepsige ( nie net fisies) wyse waarin die bogenoende te werk gaan maak dit werklik moeilik om rugbyvriende met hul te word. Net n voorbeeld, wanneer Monnas teen Grey Kollege speel, is daar baie seldsaam enige vuilspel, kru taal, net klipharde rugby tussen skole met uiterse wedersydse respek vir mekaar. Ek sien nie uit dat Monnas weer teen EG te speel nie, net om te sien hoe hul wen…. Klaar, dan klim ek in my kar.. Rugby is a hooligans game played by Gentlemen…. Nie oral nie, soms speel hooligans ook!
Ntubeni played for the Dale 1st XV in his grade 10 year in 2007. he arrived at KES in 2008 in his grade 11 year.
Old argument let’s move on.
@Roger: Just to add, I have no issue with either of them, makes no difference to me, my only aim is to make sure that if you’re going to try to anti-Grassy them that you use the right examples. Joel is a bad one, check the register, his brother arrived in the same year
@Roger: But why did they move. Folks move or was it a rugby decision. If Grassy imposes those rules at Glenwood there are going to be a bunch of 1/2 empty tables at future Old Boys functions.
@Vleis: The move was a family one, that’s the difference. And that College 1985 side might just have been the best side College ever turned out, certainly in the top 5. So the selectors got it wrong back then too. I wonder if, as that drop went through, whether they cast their minds back?
@Roger: Of course they do. Do they also claim their new arrivals or do they tell them to go to their old school reunions?
@McCulleys Workshop: spot on – do Hilton claim Hentie Martens?
@Vleis: mate of mine was with him at Bosch – they still claim him!
@Gungets Tuft: and Scarra and Wandile are different why exactly? Both arrived in grade 10 – Wandile was head boy in 2008 and Scarra played Reds for two years and SA Schools in 2009? Not having a pop at you but ‘ol Grasshopper believes they are still old Dalians?
@Grasshopper: I’ve actually met them both at old boys functions and they are both dyed in the wool Old Edwardians – but heh, whatever blows your hair back!
@Anti Green: that’s what the records say – matriculated at KES.
@Playa:
@Gungets Tuft: I think a range of factors play out, if I left College for Speartakkies High, I would also also tell everyone I went to college.
@McCulleys Workshop:
@Gungets Tuft: Just to be pedantic, he was in grade 11 in 1984. He made SA schools that year, but not in his matric year (1985).
@Roger: Bad example. He arrived at College in 1984, Grade 10, as a result of his family moving to PMB. It could be no more different to changing school to play rugby. Want the real answer, check the CV. I saw one recently, a boy that left College in Grade 11 to go somewhere else. CV says High School was College. He’s not coming to Old Boys functions, even though they’re not by invite, you ask, you pay the ticket, you find a table of friendly faces, if you can.
@Grasshopper: Ok, you never wrong, I concede, was I married to you once?
@Roger: nope, he actually knows all 3 of them
@McCulleys Workshop: I give an example, Rudi de Vry did post matric at College, he is at nearly every Glenwood Old Boys dinner. BJ Botha is a Kloof boy….the list goes on. Greg Somerville?
@Roger: What I’ve noticed at Old Boys reunions is that the guys who left in Std 7,8,9 are never there, or invited, while the guys who arrived in Std8,9, 10 or post matric – are always there…
@Roger: Hi Roger, surely it’s where you write you Matric and finish school. Maybe some make it more complicated than it is.
@Roger: Served you right for spoiling Dale’s unbeaten season in 1987
@Grasshopper: I wonder if Stransky would call himself a College or Rondebosch old boy
@Grasshopper: bullsh#t
@Roger: My mate knows exactly what both Scarra and Wandile would say around a braai, also Ngobani Bobo….along with many others…..home is where the heart is…
@Grasshopper: acid test is to ask the players themselves – I know the answer already
@Roger: Waterkloof Old Boy in my eyes, he played more rugby there. My Old Queenian colleague sitting next me is highly irritated by the poaching schools are doing from Border…..he knows the full details of all the moves seeing he sits on the Queenian OB’s committee..
@Grasshopper: Scarra and Mjekevu came to KES in their grade 10 years Hopper – why does that make them old Dalians?
In fact Mjekevu left Dale in primary school.
Is Marne a Glenwood old boy or a Waterkloof old boy?
@Tang: absolutely – 2009 against PBHS should have been closed out easily and the team should have been unbeaten – they were certainly good enough, but sh#t happens. Boys High were certainly our bogey team in those days – in 1988 KES were gunning for an unbeaten season and lost only one game too – guess who
Marx was only in grade 9 in 2009 and was not part of that team.
I remember the 2010 game when Boys High were kept waiting – was that also when KES scored after the whistle to win or was that 2009 at KES.
Wandile Mjekevu is ex Selborne/Dale Junior……
@GreenBlooded: yup – made the right call for sure
@Lindenpa: Nope, Dale OB I believe…
@Tang: I thought Scarra Ntubeni was in SACS?
@BrotherBear: Ja, julle het `n fantastiese O/16-span! Ek is oortuig daarvan dat hulle gaan skoonskip maak hierdie jaar, daai een flank is baie goed.
Ons eerstes is goed, dit is die span wat O/14 en O/15 Beeldtrofee gewen het. O/14 was dit nog mediumskole en O/15 was grootskole. Ongelukkig het ons heelwat van die staatmakers verloor, maar die Gr 11’s wat speel staan darem hulle man. Ek was bekommerd vir die game teen Alberton, want hulle was onoorwonne tot op daardie stadium. Die manne het egter goed deurgekom en die wedstryd goed gewen.
Ons piesangskil was Heidelberg Volkies. Ons was 13- 3 voor halftyd, maar hulle het twee driee gedruk en verdoel wat hulle 13 – 17 laat voorloop het. Die laaste drie was `n onderskepdrie toe ons span die bal rondgegooi het in `n poging om weer te gaan druk. Die telling van 13 – 24 vlei hulle dus so bietjie, maar hulle is ook nog onoorwonne hierdie jaar.
Ek weet nie of ons spanne mekaar gaan raakloop nie, dit sal eers in die Beeldtrofee gebeur en dan eers hier by 1/2 eind of eindstryd. Julle eerstespan is vir my moeilik om te peil, hulle verloor wedstryde wat ek gedink het hulle moet wen en andersom. Ons sal maar sien hoe die seisoen verloop.
Sterkte vir julle!
@Roger – You make some very good points.
The KES team of 2009 was excellent and had some great players – Senna Esterhuisen, Scarra Ntubeni, Malcolm Marx, Vincent Jobo, etc.
Visiting teams always feel like they get a rough deal and I must say I have seen some shockers. Boys High always feel they get shafted when they play KES. Close games never go Boys High way at KES (KES school masters take note – we know what you are up to).
I am not sure if you recall in 2010, when Boys High waited on the field for 15 minutes before KES arrived. The ref, a Jeppe Old Boy, Rasta Rasivenge, should have started the game without KES. He aslo made two dubious calls that turned the ball over to KES. He over ruled a linesman when Boys High dotted down (he claimed Boys stepped into touch) and he awarded KES a penalty when Boys High had the ball on their own try line.
The 2009 KES team, regardless of the ref on the day, should have beaten Boys High at Boys High. I can recall on two occassions where KES had an overlap but the ball carrier tried to barge through alone.
The feelings of being shafted as a visiting team seem to be common place.
@Roger: Shrouded in a cloud of smoke???
@Roger:
Who didn’t? The KES management did the right thing though. Hats off to them.
@lindenpa: hoe lyk julle manne hierdie jaar? Hopelik kan ons 1stes en o/15’s bietjie later in Beeldtrofee skowwe skuur. Jammer van ons “afgradering” om minder kompeterende spanne te akkomodeer (maar dalk ook goed vir Leeus rugby :-D. Julle o/15’s ‘n bulspannetjie ( soos ons o/16’s)!
@knowthegame: Beet het `n storie oor Helpmekaar se posisie geskryf, jy kan dit hier lees:
http://blog.schoolboyrugby.co.za/?p=10554
@knowthegame: Jip, Helpmekaar is steeds in die Beeldtrofee vir grootskole, maar speel nie in die Leeus se liga nie. Hulle gaan deur as die naaswenners van die Leeus, die ander spanne sal uitspeel om die wenners te bepaal.
@Roger: Worst kept secret in the world.
@GreenBlooded: aha – you heard about that then?
@Thumper:
To be fair – there were extenuating circumstances at play in the open age group results. They were self-inflicted no doubt – but I don’t think the open results are a fair reflection of relative strength between the schools.
@Rugger fan: otherwise it could have been 100
jesting aside – it was a great KES team – they were unbeaten until the last game of the season where Boys High scored under the posts in the last second of the return game to pip them on Brooks. Speak to some of the class of ’09 and they will tell you they were robbed blind that day by the dodgy Pta referee – nothing changes heh
@Roger: 60 points! Must have been those dodgy refs on Goldstones
@Thumper: swings and roundabouts Thumper – it wasn’t too long ago KES put 60 past College on your beloved Goldstones
@Lindenpa: soos ek kan afly op die blog sien ek Helpmekaar speel nog in groot skole reeks-indien all equal-wat gebeur in half en eindstryde-gaan skole @helmekaar speel of word dit aanvaar hulle is Leeu groot skool wenners
Groot derby tussen Linden en Randburg op Saterdag! Dit is die eerste jaar wat hierdie wedstryd `n Classic Clash is, daar word baie toeskouers verwag. Op vorige uitslae behoort Linden dit te vat (Randburg het teen Alberton verloor in die NWU Vaal-reeks, terwyl Linden verlede Saterdag vir Alberton `n pak slae gegee het (33 – 13)).
Maar, die vorige twee jaar was Linden ook die gunstelinge. In 2013 speel die 1ste-spanne gelykop en in 2014 wen Linden met slegs 2 punte. Op `n derby speel die spanne altyd bo hulle vermoens, soos Randburg bewys het. Sien uit na `n titaniese stryd!
@Roger: Move on, you lost every open game. No big deal, it’s only a game!! And as for the hockey……………………..!!
Marais Viljoen cancels against EG Jansen..well I would not be surprised. After EG Jansen’s last performance at Tuks against Monnas, Marais Viljoen. Is just not in the same league and sets them up for a massive hiding and I can understand their decision..It is not necessarily a bad thing..EGJ can rest their players a bit after last week bruising encounter.
@Bere73: Jou voorspellings lyk redelik naby, maar daar is een, miskien twee uitslae wat dalk net na die ander kant toe kan draai.
@Roger:
Yip – agreed on all points. But even professional referees can and will make errors. If they want 100% correct officiating they would need to remove the human factor and develop a very advanced computer algorithm to ref the match.
@Rugger fan: Classic – and correct about Eales – gentleman – not necessarily a gentle man … but what international player is ..
you chaps have me all wrong – school boys and coaches need to get over it – you learn more lessons from a loss than winning all the time. It wont be the first or last time these kids are pipped at the post and guess what – life’s not fair at the best of times. School are not professional (yet) and KES certainly wont be hiring and firing based on rugby results (some other schools maybe)
I was referring to professional players coaches and refs – they should all demand the highest standards because careers can be made or lost over a dubious call. Same with all pro sports.
@Rugger fan:
And that’s in an international!! Few refs get that type of respect at a primary school match!
@AffiePa: Voorspellings vir die naweek.
Grey met 10
Garsies met 3
Affies met 25
Glenwood met 5
Paul Roos met 9
Bois high met 6
@Gungets Tuft:
one of my favourite stories was from Ed Morrision (ref of 95 RWC) – he walked up to John Eales (Aus Capt) after a close test that Aus had lost to apologisde about a call he missed and got wrong. John eales – the gentleman and sportsman accepted the apology and retorted with a comment that if his backline had made as few errors as the ref – they would have won the match comfortably – so n o worries – no blame.
What a sportsman! #Respect
@AffiePa: The Paul Roos vs Paarl Gym game is on SS at 12:15.
Another weekend with some mouthwatering clashes that should be fairly tight:
– Selbourne – Grey CB
– Garsfontein – Waterkloof
– Affies – KES
– Menlo – Glenwood
– Paul Roos – Paarl Gym
– Boishaai – Boland Landbou
Will any of these be on TV?
Another tough weekend for my Old School.Dont generally fare that well against St Albans.
@Roger: What has helped me in my young few years is that I see referees as part of the game. They are as capable as players are capable of having a bad day at the office. Imagine your son being verbally abused by a coach who felt he was costing the team, and ultimately putting his job on the line?What do you think of the overzealous father who keeps shouting abuse at his son for bad play?Referees tend to have a similar reaction…they may not lash back, but they will get worse.
This I learned in my varsity days of playing for a black UCT internal league side called Ubumbo (google Luke Watson speech). Part of why I was inspired to take on the whistle myself. Anyway, refs ‘seemed’ to have it in for us. By the 3rd season of us playing in the league, we had ‘coached’ our players and spectators to ignore the ref, not talk back, and our spectators to refrain from throwing insults. That year we came 3rd ( from being wooden spooners for two seasons in a row). Our spectators had learned to just watch and enjoy and cheer us on, and we had learned to just get on with the game, and more importantly the refs had learned to just do their jobs. It’s difficult to punish someone who is co-operating.
@QC86:
The Zim one starts in Grade 10 now 
I can’t see the video…I’m not on facebook. Maybe it’s a good thing
@Roger: But that’s the the point. Sit and watch with a knowledgable ref and let them explain the decisions and laws as you go along, you will be surprised what you don’t know. Perhaps it’s just me.
At school nobody should be under pressure for their jobs. It’s one of the reasons I 100% support the use of teachers as coaches, their jobs don’t rely on a sports performance. The other of course is that they know the boys better and develop a rapport off the field which makes it easier on the field.
Trust me, I am far from phlegmatic under any other circumstances, and until 8 or so years ago I was a proper screaming maniac when watching rugby. Then I made an effort to chill because it was bad for my kids performance if I wasn’t chilled. My son also started playing in a team with a boy whose dad is a top oke – at DPHS. This guy didn’t even sit with the other parents, he sat off on his own, quietly watches, enjoyed. Big lessons for me in karma. More recently I sit and watch school rugga with a ref. I find I enjoy it more, and expect just entertainment, and am seldom disappointed at a result. And it’s why I don’t predict results. because that adds an edge to the game I don’t like.
Someone mentioned the desolation on a College captains face a few years ago, interviewed on TV after a loss on Goldstones. No schoolkid should ever have to feel like that. We are not doing our jobs as parents and mentors if we act in a way that makes them feel that it is more than just a game of sport. There’s enough going on for an 18 year old boy without him thinking he is responsible for our reaction. For a coach to do that, inexcusable.
@Playa: Why do you find that surprising??your annual Zim and North West migration only starts in grade 11 and 12 dah
@Roger: But if you have a reputation for being out-spoken (as mentioned numerous times above) – then is this really the case of questioning decisions in a responsible manner – or is it just another outburst?
Surely it cuts both ways?
The AR in question was very calm and professional in his replies and conversation with the said coach – far calmer and accommodating than most would have been – and a sign of his professionalism,
@Gungets Tuft: not too sure everyone can remain as phlegmatic as you when results go against them through inept performances by officials and coaches and players are under pressure and their jobs are on the line ? What do you think ?
@Roger: Why moan at all. You expect the boys to line up, shake hands and leave it on the field, then best you set an example. Especially if you are the coach. Write a coaches report, send it in. The Ref does.
There was a match on Saturday that attraced universal distain though, that has been reported. It happens.
@GCollege86: I was actually amazed at how close the open games were, while there were huge scores in the junior teams.
@DC ARMY: It was very close in all the open team games. In the 2nd and 3rds, Selborne pulled it off in the dying moments. Very entertaining matches to watch.
@GCollege86: Thanks mate, going back to last Saturday can you please tell me of what happened in the second and third team games for Dale, i am being told both let very handy leads go especially the seconds. As for the Firsts what QC86 said and what i was told in the evening on Sat pretty much says it all.
Selborne vs Grey Bloem fixtures: http://www.selborne.co.za/images/d6/Selborne%20College%20-Grey%20College%20Fixtures%202015%20at%20Selborne.pdf
@Gungets Tuft: of course – why moan when you win !
Look at the Tjarkies – they were done in properly by the ref at the Cake Tin
@DC ARMY: The Selborne Grey game starts at 12:30. A friend of mine is going to let me know when the Grens Dale will be. Hope it is around 16:00.
@Bere73: Waterkloof vs Garsfontein gaan ‘n interessante een wees. Kloof en Gars is op ‘n opwaartse kurwe.
@phat55: Paul Roos en Paarl Gim gaan net so uithalerwedstryd wees.
@Roger: Only when they lose …
@Roger: Speak to the College U16A – they also felt they got a raw deal from those same refs
Some predictions for this weekend – Dale by ten against Grens. Dale is a much more rounded team than Grens. Watch out for Grens 8, 12 and 15, the rest pretty standard. No 8 a possibility for Cravenweek?
Selborne to take a close game against Grey, 5 points max. Selborne a very balanced side and I think Grey too disrupted with injuries. All in all a difficult call though.
My 5c worth..
@Gungets Tuft: @GreenBlooded: dodgy midlands refs heh
I’m not too worried – just repeating what I heard – seems a common theme that travelling teams get a raw deal in the sleepy hollow
Rom rom Gimmies kom……sy g@t sien!!!
@Roger: Probably the same vision problem that prevented him seeing the early tackle on Guma that stopped him taking a pass with an open line in front of him. Any match that ends up with a margin of 1 point is going to generate “what if” angst, but coaches need to get a grip, their boys are not learning anything if they lose if with the officials.
Similar thing happened with the U16A match, ref copping plenty of abuse from the crowd, until the injury time try that won it for KES, then suddenly the ref was absolutely fine. Funny thing was that the abusers didn’t even understand the refs signals, so I wonder what their grasp of the laws is. Actually, I don’t wonder, I know. The one guy called forward pass for a juggle – said the guy was forward passing to himself.
@Roger:
It’s amazing how many last-minute match winning tries involve a knock-on that the ref didn’t see. Normally according to the fans of the losing side. Tut tut tut.
@Playa: check this out.
https://www.facebook.com/brendon.spring/videos/1015319797934921508/? pnref=story
very funny now that the game is over.
@Roger: Actually he was more concerned with the AR on the far side who was not calling some general infringements on the half way line.
The try came on the far side of the said AR who he had the “beef” with.
@QC86: I feel slightly better, but it still hurts a bit
@beet: Beet, HTSM against Middelburg this weekend, this will be a cracker because of the yearly CC. There are also 10 Middies and only 2 HTSM players in the final Puma trials team, this CC are going to be big.
@Rugger fan: so he couldn’t call the knock on leading up to the match winning try that the ref missed?
@Roger: The roles of Touch Judge and Assistant Ref. There are clear things they can indicate – and issues such as open play etc. need to be adjudged by the ref – and not the AR.
@Rugger fan: and – what is law 6B?
off topic – I see that fine College old boy KP is causing much angst for the ECB again – triple century and they still won’t allow him back
The St Johns boy (Strauss) won’t allow the College boy to play with the other boys – shame on him
Looking forward to the PRG vs Paarl Gim game, as Gim is coming in with some nice form after their demolition of Boland Landbou.(although we all know each weekend is different & form means nothing etc
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Should be a cracker
@Roger: Short mans syndrome??@Playa: Dale by 20 ,no problem.Dale is a very good side,score on Saturday not a true reflection of how close that game was.Well into the last quarter the game could have gone either way.Selborne scored 28 points from Dale mistakes in Selborne’s own 22 [Dale on attack] ref was very good at policing the breakdowns and that is where Dale had the upper hand,but were heavily blown for going off their feet and slowing Selborne ball,which helped us.So don’t take our banter to seriously.pinch of salt choem
@Roger: I heard he was making expectations of the AR that are beyond the requirements of the Law 6.B
@Rugger fan: @GreenBlooded: sounds like an entertaining encounter – what caused Spilly such angst? Heard various stories but obviously wasn’t there?
Grey Bloem will have to pull out all the stops to win this one.
Selborne best chance since 2011
@GreenBlooded: Nope not a Joburg thing at all Just Spilhaus being Carl Spilhaus
@Playa: Yes i could considering that Grens and Selborne are not too far away from each other, but i would rather not.
@Pinotage: Absolutely true and i don’t know if Grey have ever lost 4 games in a row. But just for insight what would you put it down to as the reason you guys are having the season that you are enduring.
@DC ARMY: If I was back home, and had to choose, I’d probably end up at Selborne. That is sure to be a cracker. Then again, the co-ed derbies are usually played earlier, so you might catch the Grens game as well. Though I wouldn’t if I were you…in case the boys are still rattled by that baboon beating.One thing’s for sure, Grens will fancy their chances, and Dale will need to be in beast mode if they are to win.
@DC ARMY: A wounded buffalo is dangerous. Similar to a wounded Grey Team. Selborne might just have to endure the wrath of a team that will never roll over. I like the changes that were made and I am confident. Let us hope for a festival of ŕugby without iinjuries.
I hope the weather will hold.
@GreenBlooded: No…that’s just Carl Siplhaus being himself.I am told he is calmer now, you should have seen him 20 years ago
@Roger: Not sure about the questionable decisions – both teams actually made it very easy to ref the game by playing positively. College raced to a 21-0 lead in the first few minutes – then simply went to sleep thinking they’d won the match and the Reds fought hard to gain the lead.
College rounded out with a try on the hooter (again the playing vs running time difference between refs clock and scoreboard may have been a factor)?
KES certainly played more rugby and were unlucky not to take the game – but a good match to watch and both teams kept the crowd entertained with good SBR.
@Roger:
Not that I saw Roger. But I guess any game that ends with a 1 point difference will put the spotlight on referee decisions. I must say I found the antics of the coach quite deplorable with his verbal barrage of the Assistant Referee and refusing to leave the field when asked to do so. Maybe it’s just the Joburg way of doing things – something we very seldom see in school matches here in KZN.
@Playa: Interesting scenarios indeed and from our perspective not an ideal match to have after last week’s disaster which now i am glad i missed.
Sat will be in EL not sure which game i want to see, but will probably end up in Selborne, there is no better opportunity for Selborne to beat Grey than this and not so sure that Dale can recover in time from a beating like that at Reunion against a still pretty solid Grens side.
Graeme and Queens should provide fireworks
@QC86: Why not the Baboona deservedly earned those bragging rights and should remind us until the return game in EL.
@QC86:
GO AWAY!
eisch – Affies this weekend – doesn’t get any easier!
Beet – will there be a write up on the College KES encounter – I hear it was a thriller with, true to the best Midlands form, a few questionable decisions
Can anyone comment?
@beet: I saw Menlo lower down thanks to Playa. I know MC 3rds played and beat Voories. Sad – we played 1 on 1 when I was there – the Annual Boer War was always a really hard (read dirty) match between the Rooineks and Dutchies.
@Rugger fan: Sorry that will probably be Glenwood lower teams as I doubt Menlo has the depth to accommodate all the Glenwood teams but I’ll get clarification.
@Playa: Before we move onto this weekend can’t we just live in the past for just a couple more days.
@kosie: Hahahaha! I was just putting it out there
@Playa: I know this week ends on the 16 th!
But then time might have stood still in the last out post! 
I like your subtle indication of availability as from 2017.
I will be visiting the long lost Central region that produced such fine specimen such as BOG. Will attend the Kroonstad Goudveld game. No allegiance so I can sit back and enjoy good SBR
@Rugger fan: They’re playing Menlopark. The lower teams are probably going to fill the other games against Voortrekker.
Beet – I believe this week ends on the 16th
Can Grey College break their losing streak against a settled Selborne in Slummies? Is it Dale’s turn to be the Border college to suffer a loss against Grens this year?A Greame with their tails up at home to QC, and a wounded St Andrews against a Cambridge desperate for a big sculp. Never a dull day in the EC schoolboy rugby calendar.
For my sins, I will be at the Bosch-SACS clash, which I really do not mind. The winner will get a Grade R fees cheque from me in 2017…if they accept the carefully crafted application I sent of course…
GW – Voortrekker (PMB)? Surely not at 1st XV level???