BHP Top 50 – 2014 season preliminary final results

Before finalising the 2014 formula driven rankings, BHP has asked if bloggers can check if all their schools’s games are in the “played” category below. Some early season friendlies and shortened games are not taken into account and neither are any games played overseas on tours. Once I have updated all the data of outstanding games he will bring out the final rankings but doubt if it will change the top 20 anyway. Email: BoishaaiPa@gmail.com

Rank Team Played Won Lost Draw Avg
1 Grey College 21 19 1 1 4.17
2 Paul Roos 18 15 3 0 3.69
3 Paarl Gim 15 11 4 0 3.64
4 Garsfontein 16 13 3 0 3.46
5 Monument 22 17 3 2 3.28
6 Grey PE 20 16 4 0 3.21
7 Wynberg BHS 20 16 4 0 3.21
8 Glenwood 19 15 4 0 3.18
9 HJS Paarl 20 15 4 1 3.17
10 EG Jansen 18 14 4 0 3.17
11 Selborne 20 16 3 1 3.07
12 Nelspruit 18 13 5 0 2.96
13 Maritzburg College 19 13 4 2 2.90
14 Outeniqua 15 10 5 0 2.88
15 Waterkloof 16 11 5 0 2.86
16 HTS Middelburg 18 12 6 0 2.66
17 HTS Louis Botha 14 11 3 0 2.65
18 Michaelhouse 12 8 4 0 2.65
19 Menlopark 18 13 5 0 2.64
20 Oakdale 16 11 5 0 2.64
21 Westville BHS 16 10 5 1 2.61
22 Kempton Park 21 13 8 0 2.44
23 Bishops 17 11 6 0 2.36
24 Voortrekker (Bethlehem) 16 12 4 0 2.34
25 KES 17 10 5 2 2.27
26 Transvalia 20 13 4 3 2.27
27 Stellenberg 15 11 4 0 2.25
28 Die Brandwag 19 15 4 0 2.22
29 Diamantveld 16 11 5 0 2.15
30 Jeppe 15 9 5 1 2.13
31 Boland Landbou 16 6 9 1 2.08
32 Marlow 17 9 8 0 2.08
33 Framesby 17 9 8 0 2.07
34 St Andrews 15 9 6 0 2.07
35 Tygerberg 20 14 5 1 2.06
36 Dale College 20 14 6 0 2.06
37 Klerksdorp 21 12 8 1 2.03
38 Affies 15 8 7 0 2.00
39 Kearsney 16 10 6 0 1.96
40 Augsberg 13 10 3 0 1.88
41 Helpmekaar 13 8 5 0 1.83
42 Sentraal 13 6 7 0 1.83
43 Jim Fouche 12 7 5 0 1.83
44 Landboudal 14 11 3 0 1.81
45 Queens College 18 11 7 0 1.78
46 De Kuilen 12 7 4 1 1.77
47 AHS Kroonstad (Rooiskool) 11 6 5 0 1.72
48 Hugenote (Well) 17 8 8 1 1.71
49 Nico Malan 19 12 7 0 1.71
50 Eldoraigne 16 7 8 1 1.62

78 Comments

  1. avatar
    #78 Djou

    @Laevelder: Dit lyk my die norm vir ‘n topskool is om deesdae meeste van hul wedstryde weg te speel. Veral omdat in toernooie gespeel word soos Tuksreeks, St Johns, Kerf ens. Het gou getel, in Pretoria het bv. Waterkloof en Garsfontein ook net 5 wedstryde tuis gespeel. Dit is jammer dat toeskouers nie meer geleenthede kry om hul spanne by die huis te sien speel nie. En dit lyk my jul wen weg teen Garsfontein was nie op Garsfontein nie, maar op Tuks se velde.
    Nietemin, baie geluk weer met ‘n sterk eindpoging en geniet die Beeldtrofee.

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    6 September, 2014 at 07:52
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    #77 LAEVELDER

    Dankie Rooibul! Mag die Puma spanne kook vorentoe! Hele klompie jare terug was Suid Oos Tvl die span om te klop op Cravenweek… mag dit weer so wees.. met sterk bydrae van Middelburg (Tegnies & MHS)..Nelspruit (NHS.. sien Bergvlam se rugby tel ook op.. in my dae was Rob Ferreira kookwater.. baie cravenweek spelers SA Skole kaptein..Fanus Engelbrechts… Ronnie Visagie ens..) Hoop Ermelo kom ook weer partytjie toe..net so ryke trotse rugbygeskiedenis ook Ligbron doen goed).. Witbank Tegnies ook in n groeifase.. Standerton ook mooi op dreef! Harde manne die Pumas!!

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    5 September, 2014 at 10:22
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    #76 ROOIBUL

    @LAEVELDER: My team of the year Nelspruit. For me they were an average team in the beginning of the season, but with guts and they never gave up. The stand out point the couches, to keep a team motivated for so long and especially after craven week, are really exceptional from the couching team. For me HTSM and Monnas have the same problem, believe me if HTSM played the way they played there last few games they would have had a bad season. Garsfontein bad lack, it was so close. But it’s time to give them the opportunity to play in the big tournaments.
    Baie geluk Nelspruit, trots op julle manne!

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    5 September, 2014 at 10:02
  4. avatar
    #75 Playa

    @Grasshopper: SA’s best available 13 is busy captaining WP in the Currie Cup…boggles the mind :roll:

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    5 September, 2014 at 08:38
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    #74 Grey Brak

    Grey Bloem het jaarliks die moeilikste wedstrydbepalings. 13 van die top 20 spanne gespeel is bewys daarvan. Behalwe vir die 8 interskole wedstryde wat Grey jaarliks speel trek hulle boonop die sterkste spanne op toernooie ook (Kearsney, Wildeklawer ens.)

    Dieselfde tel vir Grey se junior spanne (0/14-0/16). Alhoewel Grey se junior spanne soms wedstryde verloor op junior vlak glo ek dat gereelde wedstryde teen top spanne ‘n enorme goeie fondasie le ter voorbereiding vir 1ste span vlak. Om naweek in in naweek uit goeie oposisie te speel kan ‘n span net sterker maak.

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    5 September, 2014 at 08:08
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    #73 LAEVELDER

    Moet ook se net so tuff en ver dit is vir spanne om Nelspruit toe te kom.. geld vir ons ook wat 9 keer Gauteng (330km) toe moes ry en 3 keer Middelburg (200 km) toe

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    5 September, 2014 at 07:50
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    #72 LAEVELDER

    Hi Djou! Van die 3 wenne teen Top 10 spanne was een weg (Garsf) en twee tuis (Garsf & Monnas). Nelspruit het 12 van hul 17 games weg gespeel die jaar. Goeie weg wenne ook in Puma final in Middelburg teen HTS Middelburg en Beeld kwarteind teen Kempton.

    Garsfontein 19-25
    Florida 29-0 (weg)
    Marais V 22-19 (weg)
    Transvalia 22-17
    St Johns 29-20 (weg)
    Pret BH 14-3 (weg)
    Paul Roos 10-15 (weg)
    EG Jansen 15-24 (weg)
    Garsf 28-27 (weg)
    Witb Teg 24-8 (weg)
    HTS Mid 23-33
    Middelburg 10-11 (weg)
    Middelburg 27-12 (weg)
    HTS Mid 14-12 (weg)
    Kemptonpark 33-29 (weg)
    Monnas 24-19
    Garsfontein 20-19

    So 9 van hul 12 weg games gewen en 3 van 5 tuisgames ! :wink:

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    5 September, 2014 at 07:46
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    #71 David

    @Dunlop: EK sien Grey het 13 uit die 20 spanne na Grey op die rankings gespeel. Paul Roos het 9, Gim het 8, Garsies het 7, Monnas het 5, Grey High het 8, Wynberg het 5, Glenwood het 8, Boishaai het 5 en EG Jansen het 8 gespeel. Was verbaas met Boishaai se 5. Kan dalk hier en daar verkeerd wees.

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    5 September, 2014 at 07:01
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    #70 Djou

    @Laevelder: Hoeveel van julle wenne teen top 10-spanne was op julle tuisveld? En hoeveel was op die ander spanne se tuisveld? Wil net uitvind of Nellies ook weg kan wen, m.a.w. op die ander skole se tuisvelde? Die rit Nelspruit toe is lekker lank!

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    4 September, 2014 at 20:09
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    #69 LAEVELDER

    Hi Dunlop, well done Grey!! Nelspruit net so moeilike bepalings vir die jaar gehad .. 6 van hul games (totaal 17 ..nie 18) teen Top 10 spanne! 3 x Garsfontein, 1 x Paul Roos , 1 x Monnas , 1 x EG Jansen. 3 uit 6 van hierdie gewen! So meer as n derde van hul games teen die top 10 spanne in RSA.. 50% winning ratio against those.. not bad at all :wink:

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    4 September, 2014 at 14:37
  11. avatar
    #68 Grasshopper

    Mukendi must have scored more than 10 tries this year, hoping he keeps fit and he should have a great 2015 too. That boy has wheels….

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    4 September, 2014 at 14:24
  12. avatar
    #67 Grasshopper

    SA is battling for a decent tight head and 13, any of those floating around in KZN schools rugga…

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    4 September, 2014 at 14:23
  13. avatar
    #66 Gungets Tuft

    @Pedantic: Yes it does. Perhaps one of the hundreds of version of android doesn’t work … :mrgreen:

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    4 September, 2014 at 14:00
  14. avatar
    #65 CRC

    @Far Meadows: There was a Bowmaker-Wood in the MHS U16As this year.

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    4 September, 2014 at 13:53
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    #64 Pedantic

    @star: Yep, Pau, not really an exciting back, more of a solid 12. Personally I would like to see him get a chance at flank, he’s a strong athlete.

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    4 September, 2014 at 13:44
  16. avatar
    #63 Pedantic

    @GreenBlooded: I don’t think the reply button works on iPhone – what were you saying earlier about i-Stuff ? :mrgreen:

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    4 September, 2014 at 13:41
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    #62 GreenBlooded

    @star: When you reply – better to click on the “Reply” button on the post you are replying to than typeing out @whoever. Makes it easier to follow. 8)

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    4 September, 2014 at 13:29
  18. avatar
    #61 Dunlop

    Ek sien Grey Bloem het 21 games gespeel, 7 daarvan teen Top 10 spanne….. Sekerlik een van die moeilikste bepalings wat daar was die jaar.

    Die Kaapse skole speel nie meer wedstryde nie, alhoewel hulle meer plaaslike liga wedstryde speel…..

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    4 September, 2014 at 13:27
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    #60 star

    @ Pedantic- in your assessment of exciting backs did you not leave out Pau for Kearsney. Nothing wrong with that backline for sure( and now with priceless experience) :mrgreen:

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    4 September, 2014 at 13:21
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    #59 Pedantic

    @Grasshopper: Lets hope he doesn’t read that comment, we don’t really want him to gain anymore weight – around 107 at the moment – as a natural loosie I think more weight will slow him down.

    @star: Palvie currently in G10 and was in the 2013 U16 side so must have been there since at least G9. The mind boggles at how he will dominate in his matric year!

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    4 September, 2014 at 13:03
  21. avatar
    #58 Grasshopper

    I think it was Wayne Lister-James at Michaelhouse, played KZN schools rugby and cricket if I remember correctly. A big lock…

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    4 September, 2014 at 12:53
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    #57 star

    @ Buffel- you are right about the Lister-James. Chris and his twin brother Jeremy finished with Paddy at Westville in 1978. Grant was a few years older. Great sportsmen.
    Do you know when Palvie joined GW ? Is he a grade 8 intake?
    With regard to double barrelled names possibly the first pupil at House was one Walter Hudson Bennett. I am told I have his smouldering and sexy blue eyes :lol: :lol:

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    4 September, 2014 at 12:47
  23. avatar
    #56 Buffel

    Palvie was my standout 8 from this season gone. Jaco kept him out but when he got an opportunity he was dynamite. Played against the Pumas in the friendly before CW as a replacement when Jaco was injured and he played a stormer. Would not play him at lock as he has gas to burn off the base and is seriously strong.
    @Grasshopper: Half brothers-Grant and Chris Lister-James are Westville old boy’s and I think his half brother went to MHS.He was much younger than his boets.

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    4 September, 2014 at 11:55
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    #55 Grasshopper

    @beet: Must be father & son as the Lister-James I played against finished in 1995 or 1996…

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    4 September, 2014 at 11:05
  25. avatar
    #54 Grasshopper

    @Far Meadows: Michaelhouse Landbou Kollege…

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    4 September, 2014 at 11:04
  26. avatar
    #53 Far Meadows

    @oldschool:

    Sorry , spelling correction – it is Foster not Vorster…my bad.

    The Pretorius family can shout what they want , as long as their son keeps up the good work !

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    4 September, 2014 at 10:53
  27. avatar
    #52 Far Meadows

    @beet:

    I think they are father and son.

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    4 September, 2014 at 10:47
  28. avatar
    #51 beet

    @beet: :oops: Sorry Jordan Sesink-Clee already mentioned above

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    4 September, 2014 at 10:42
  29. avatar
    #50 beet

    @Grasshopper: @Far Meadows: How is the Natal Schools lock from the 1990’s related to former Natal bowler of the 1980’s Chris “Claude” Lister-James? Brothers?

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    4 September, 2014 at 10:40
  30. avatar
    #49 beet

    @Far Meadows: Sesink-Clee?

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    4 September, 2014 at 10:38
  31. avatar
    #48 oldschool

    @Far Meadows: ha ha …. I also see that little lord Fontleroy may turn out for Hilton next year ?

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    4 September, 2014 at 10:30
  32. avatar
    #47 Far Meadows

    @oldschool:

    I see there was a ‘Bowmaker-Wood’ who played for the U16A’s as a flank…if we are lucky he will also be in the mix. :mrgreen:

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    4 September, 2014 at 10:16
  33. avatar
    #46 oldschool

    @Far Meadows: aaahhh , there is always one …..
    However ,judging by some of the surnames in the House side next year (Pretorius , Vorster ) there may be less ‘ more pressure from the rear ‘ and more ‘ Vat hom seun ‘ comments from the side line !!

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    4 September, 2014 at 10:07
  34. avatar
    #45 Gungets Tuft

    @Grasshopper: Only 5kg .. sheesh, easy. Seems some okes can pack on 2.5kg a week with a healthy diet and some sunshine …. :roll:

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    4 September, 2014 at 10:06
  35. avatar
    #44 Grasshopper

    @Far Meadows: My favourite double barrel was Lister-James….jeez he was a monster….good bowler too…

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    4 September, 2014 at 09:10
  36. avatar
    #43 Grasshopper

    @Pedantic: Glenwood always seem to produce locks, no8’s and hookers at school level….Jayden Hill (SA Schools lock), Fred Schnetler (SA Schools lock), Jaco Coetzee (SA Schools No8), Derek La Marque (SA Schools & Natal No8), Shaun Malton (SA Schools hooker), Kyle Cooper (Sharks Hooker), Ferdie Horn (KZN Lock), John Allan (Bok Hooker), Don Walton (Bok hooker), Roger Sheriff (Bok lock), Mauritz van den Berg (Bok lock)……actually Glenwood have always been known to have tough packs and kak backs. Only recently has our backline play got pretty good probably coinciding with better results. Isn’t the Kearsney KZN Schools lock back? I liked his play, probably needs to gain 5kg though..

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    4 September, 2014 at 09:08
  37. avatar
    #42 Pedantic

    @Grasshopper: Yes, JJ looks to be something special. after participating in Grant Khomo he was in Middelburg to watch Craven Week … obviously has a passion for the game and his head in the right place.

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    4 September, 2014 at 09:00
  38. avatar
    #41 Grasshopper

    @Pedantic: He looks a good 6foot3 when I walked past him and in KZN that is tall enough for a lock. Du Randt this year was about the same. What is exciting for KZN is the monster Glenwood Under15A lock, jeez that kid is about 1,98 already…

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    4 September, 2014 at 08:51
  39. avatar
    #40 Far Meadows

    @oldschool:

    Not so fast … I haven’t mentioned the forwards – there might not be a ‘Pinkerton -Smythe’ , but there is a ‘Sesink-Clee’ who played lock for the 2nds this year ( and played 1sts at the private schools festival ).
    :mrgreen:

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    4 September, 2014 at 08:47
  40. avatar
    #39 Pedantic

    @Ploegskaar: I’m positive he will have a great season – ended 2014 on a high with some excellent form. Agreed on the mongrel, he has it in bucketloads.

    The show ponies are still exciting to watch even though they only do 10% of the work :mrgreen:

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    3 September, 2014 at 22:53
  41. avatar
    #38 Ploegskaar

    @Pedantic: Backs/show ponies, always getting the airtime, while the big boys have to get their hands dirty up-front :mrgreen: WRT Palvie, he’s got some good Cape Town Northern Suburbs mongrel, can’t coach that. Also made enough of an impact with occasional appearances this year for those outside KZN to take notice, think his carry aggression will make an even bigger impact next year. I for one hope he has a cracking season!

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    3 September, 2014 at 22:41
  42. avatar
    #37 Pedantic

    @Grasshopper: I’m not sure about that – it would depend on his aspirations for 2015.

    He could slot into the lock position to give the tight 5 extra grunt, but would then be a short, non jumping lock with tough competition to get into the CW team. As a loosie / # 8 he would have a better chance at higher honours. (just MHO)

    Remember, it’s not only Palvie that’s getting bigger, they’re all growing. I saw Westville’s Kevin Smit at 7’s trials and he looks like he’s packed on 10 KG since the rugby season.

    Staples was a real talent, pity we haven’t had the opportunity to see how he’s progressed but at U16 level Palvie wasn’t too far behind – he’s just not as impressive looking as an athlete.

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    3 September, 2014 at 22:26
  43. avatar
    #36 Grasshopper

    If only Staples had stayed, eish!

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    3 September, 2014 at 22:02
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    #35 Grasshopper

    @Pedantic: I would actually play Palvie at lock, he has the grunt and getting bigger…

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    3 September, 2014 at 22:01
  45. avatar
    #34 Pedantic

    @Ploegskaar: Agree with that, but I was focusing on the backs.

    Forwards .. a different chapter, but I feel Palvie is going to need to work really hard – there are some very hard working, athletically talented loosies on the horizon that could have the edge on him.

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    3 September, 2014 at 16:37
  46. avatar
    #33 Ploegskaar

    @Pedantic: You can add Marco Palvie to the Glenwood list, he will definitely make an impact next year and may well be in line for higher honours.

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    3 September, 2014 at 16:32
  47. avatar
    #32 Pedantic

    @Far Meadows: @star: @Thumper: @Buffel: Looking at the prospective squads, the best thing for me is the exciting backs we will see across the board:

    MHS – Bader, Furniss and Voster

    GW: Du Randt, Morgan, Mukendi (and surely a few new names)

    Westville: Wheeler, Ball, Kitching and Tony (We seem to have lost some of the talented Westville backs to the fairer sex?)

    KC: Tedder (yes, a new one on the block), Ritchie, Watts and Nesbitt

    College: Guma and Kriel (expect an explosion of form from Kriel – my early pick for back of the season 2015)

    Hilton: Dahl & paceman Mcghee

    For all these guys to fire they’re going to need a pack to do the hard yards – it would seem on size that Westville will have a monster pack (barring intervention from SAIDS) but they’re going to need it with that hectic fixture list on the other post!

    With KC having 8 1st XV players returning, I think they will be competitive – sometimes experience can outweigh size :mrgreen:

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    3 September, 2014 at 15:51
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    #31 Buffel

    @star: have never taken a Westville side lightly. Kearsney will be competitive but there are some sides that stand out. This is going to be a good year for rugby. close contests ,hopefully and not too many off the field issues. Good on Westville for taking on the traditionals on the highveld and for the 2 college games. Must have the making of a good side otherwise it could be a little foolish. Will be watching from the sidelines . Is there a Moon to be seen? :mrgreen:

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    3 September, 2014 at 15:05
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    #30 LAEVELDER

    Dink ook hul het n great 2 jare gehad..veral die jaar .. seisoen nie te goed begin nie… eerste game afgestel agv reen ..tweede game Garsfontein..na 10 minute loop hul 19-0 agter..comeback gemaak en uiteindelik 19-25 verloor terwyl ons op hul doellyn was toe die einfluitjie blaas.. Tweede keer Garsies geklop..net net 26-25 (Tuks Third place play off)…toe verloor hul teen HTS Middelburg maar verhang weer die bordjies in die Puma FINAL (ook net net).. Dink hul teleurstendste game was die verloor teen Middelburg Hoerskool..het darm weer daarna hul geklop..en toe die guts van die Beeld troffee play offs..HTS Middelburg ..daarna Kempies (29-18 agter 10 minutes to go..na n wen van 33-29!!..Toe Monnas..was volgens my hul beste game..weereens baie close en Monnas op ons doellyn toe die fluitjie blaas.. die 3 amazing wenne het die ouens guts en selfconfidence gegee vir die Beeld final… weerens bitter bitter close maar dit was meer as net luck om 4 sulke efforts 4 naweke in n ry in te sit… God is Groot was op hul truie vir die final.. nie om te se ander spanne se nie dieselfde nie… Well done guys!! Oscar jul is ysters!! God is great!

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    3 September, 2014 at 15:02
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    #29 oldschool

    @Far Meadows: Not one double barrelled surname in that mix …times they are a changing !!

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    3 September, 2014 at 14:16
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    #28 kosie

    @Woltrui: Ek deel tot ‘n groot mate jou siening oor Nellies maar daai stukkie oor die afrigters sal ek maar eerder nie byvoeg. Ek mag dalk ‘n klap kry!

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    3 September, 2014 at 13:48
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    #27 Woltrui

    @LAEVELDER: Nellies se eerste span verdien volgens my die Eerste span van die jaar troffee vir 2014. “With a country mile”!! Hoop Speartackle deel weer pryse uit aan die einde van die seisoen. Nellies for the Emmy and Grammy! Nellies se drie teen EG Jansen in die semi’s van die Super 16, waar hulle agter hulle pale begin hardloop het, ook waarskynlik die drie van die jaar. Die afrigters van die jaar-ook Nellies 8-O

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    3 September, 2014 at 13:37
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    #26 LAEVELDER

    Well done Nelspruit! Second year in a row 12 th after the seasons dust settled… next year Top 10 !!

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    3 September, 2014 at 12:51
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    #25 Far Meadows

    @Buffel:

    I think you might be wrong about next year’s MHS side , true Bader is a stand out player but there are quite a few standard 9 boys in both the 1st and 2nds who will be back.

    They might be a bit shy at loose-head and lock, but overall they will be a pretty decent side. In the back line there is Bader Pretorius along with Liam Furniss ( at wing or centre ), Frank Goble ( wing ) , Victor Vorster ( full back or wing ) and the Anderson twins who slot in at scrummie and centre – all of who had experience in the 1st XV this year.

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    3 September, 2014 at 11:17
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    #24 beet

    @Thumper: Eish I hate to add this but I think we will need to see the effects of imports on 1st XV starting lineups for 2015 before deciding that no team will dominate. New faces could reshape fortunes. Otherwise based on the exciting 2013 u16 year, next year should be a cracker with some very good match-ups.

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    3 September, 2014 at 10:29
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    #23 star

    @ Buffel – Done deal. You must also remember that Kearsney play Westville on Bowdens and House on Meadows. If Hilton play Kearsney twice then we will take the first match. Westville’s front row seems to be taking on formidable proportions. Els was 115 kgs and Stoltz 110 kgs and both seem to have got even bigger with several months to go to the start of the rugby season. The hookers Lee and Prinsloo are not light weights either. Qoma must be well over 100 kgs and Smit is also around that mark. I do not think they will be easily dominated upfront. There is also pace to burn out wide with both wings ( Ball and Wheeler) back and the top try scorer at the GK tourno also in the mix. I do not think this team must be taken lightly :lol:

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    3 September, 2014 at 09:39
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    #22 Thumper

    @Tarpeys: Agree, MHS, Hilton and College will all have decent sides. The last prediction Buffel had was very wrong (something about not being caught like a deer in the headlights againt GW. We all know the outcome of that!!). Next year will be competitive with no one side dominating!!

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    3 September, 2014 at 09:34
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    #21 beet

    @Buffel: @Tarpeys: It’s not always a good measurement but on paper Michaelhouse and Hilton should both have useful 1st XVs next year. Hopefully Kearsney can come up with the goods to match them.

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    3 September, 2014 at 09:08
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    #20 Tarpeys

    @Buffel: Don’t bet on it. Michaelhouse will be better than this year.

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    3 September, 2014 at 08:50
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    #19 Buffel

    @star: We did the same- beat Hilton in their back yard and did PBHS at Grey festival. IMHO the hardest games for us were GREY P.E.,E.G.JANSSEN ,MHS and GLENWOOD. Locally we got beat by 3 sides being College,MHS and Glenwood. As far as the win over Westville go’s- I think it will remain in my memory bank for ever.

    Next year is going to be interesting in that Glenwood won’t have their stars and MHS will be ordinary with Bader being the exception. I will take that bet. We still need to meet up for the beer handover. Me thinks at Johnnys place over a braai.

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    3 September, 2014 at 07:39
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    #18 Kbypa

    @BOG: Noord-Kaap had a great end to their season, but otherwise had a terrible season. They lost most of their games, including against Diamantveld. They did have a few good games, though, and probably do deserve to be on the list. But, despite winning the Shimla league (only two games), they are certanly not the top team (besides Grey) in the central region. All in all, a season they would like to forget.

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    2 September, 2014 at 20:01
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    #17 star

    @ Buffel- we need to keep you interested in SBR for another year. How about a similar bet to last year? Kearsney v Westville,Hilton and House. Winner takes a Johnny Black. With regard to the rankings and Kearsney’s position wrt Westville can you give me one instance where Kearsney outperformed Westville in relation to common opponents. In fact Westville had 2 of their greatest victories ( Hilton and PBHS) and Kearsney 2 of their all time worst( GW/House). SA School Sports has Westville at 17 and Kearsney at 37. BHP’s ranking is actually more on the money than most so well played sir. You can’t use that get out of jail card against Westville for everything. :mrgreen:

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    2 September, 2014 at 18:43
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    #16 Djou

    @valke: @BoishaaiPa: A team should not drop points because of that.
    As I said before, the average person is half man half woman, half clever, half dumb, half tall, half short etc. Best way is to avoid averages!

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    2 September, 2014 at 17:35
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    #15 Rooikat

    I think Boland Landbou had a strong team this year, they lost in the last min to PBH after a tighthead and very narrow losses against many top schools (Paarl Gim). Yet they are 31st I am not questioning the list but it is clear that the formula used focuses on victories, even if it is very narrow victories.

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    2 September, 2014 at 17:11
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    #14 valke

    @BoishaaiPa: Thank you Sir.

    I was quietly wondering what effect those matches would have had.

    Please note that my comment was only meant as a comment and in no way aimed as a criticism. :lol:

    As stated before, I believe Top 10 is a fair reflection of this team, compared to last years team that ended up in the Top 5, which was also a fair reflection of that team.

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    2 September, 2014 at 16:11
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    #13 BoishaaiPa

    @valke: You did not loose out by the two matches being cancelled. I did the maths. You will only have gained 1.6 bonuspoints for 80% winratio (assuming you won both matches) but your average would then have been calculated divided by 20 matches and you would also have picked up lower amount of category points per game only giving you a max probability of 6 points for both matches. Your avg per game is 3.17 now…it would have dropped your average slightly but you would have remained in 10th spot with an Avg per game of 3.15

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    2 September, 2014 at 15:50
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    #12 Mike

    @BoishaaiPa: These are definitely the ranking I find most accurate and reliable. Thanks for all the hard work !

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    2 September, 2014 at 15:37
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    #11 Playa

    @All Black: Affies were top last year with only 14 games. If anything, this speaks of the consistency of this system in my view.

    @BoishaaiPa: Couldn’t you place Dale and tygerberg in alphabetical order? :mrgreen:

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    2 September, 2014 at 14:40
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    #10 BOG

    Speaking of strange seasons. Noordkaap won the kovsie shield, yet not on the list at all.

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    2 September, 2014 at 14:31
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    #9 valke

    On a different note.

    EG Jansen had 5 boys in the 1st team this year that had the privilege of being Tuks ( Nu Power ) champions, League champions and Beeld trophy ( Makro Schools ) champions at the same time !

    Congrats to these boys, as not a lot kids will ever experience this during their school boy rugby days.

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    2 September, 2014 at 13:50
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    #8 valke

    @BoishaaiPa: I think with respect to our region, you have it spot on.

    EG lost its 80% win bonus due to 2 cancelled games which, looking at how close it is between #6 and #10, could have changed their position slightly, but I believe top 10 is a fair reflection of the 2014 team.

    Kempies and Transvalia also more or less where one would expect them to be.

    Thanks for probably the most accurate ranking around !

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    2 September, 2014 at 13:46
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    #7 BoishaaiPa

    @Buffel: Only if those two teams were the only ones in the equation yes…there are other factors and teams that also influence the results. It is formula driven..live with it.

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    2 September, 2014 at 13:40
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    #6 Buffel

    Sorry- there is no way that Kearsney are in 39th pos and Westville in 21st. Almost identical record. That is totally out of kilter. Yes ,we had 2 heavy defeats at the end of the season but by no way are we 18 positions worse off ,and we beat them!!!

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    2 September, 2014 at 13:15
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    #5 Tarpeys

    @All Black: Dry your eyes. That school knows that their boys are not professional players. It’s called good player management, playing the right schools and getting good results; a classic scenario of quality over quantity. You should be praising the school for their approach and criticizing those that play over 16 games. The same school you’re referring to is in the top 10 schools with the most players playing Currie cup rugby this year and could actually be in the top 5.

    FYI they actually played 3 more games at the ISRF and won all 3 including putting 40 odd past Bishops.

    Some could say that they have the best private school rugby program in the country at the moment without any recruitment and other tactics that are spoiling the purity of school boy rugby.

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    2 September, 2014 at 12:45
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    #4 Rooikat

    What was interesting about this season is the amount of games teams lost. Only Grey lost only one but many of their victories could have gone either way eg Paarl Gim, PBH and Paul Roos games.

    Not one team was really a cut above the rest as Paarl Gim was last year with some big wins over big schools.

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    2 September, 2014 at 11:16
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    #3 BoishaaiPa

    @Gold: It checks the points difference Total for vs Total against. The one with the better points difference gets placed ahead.

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    2 September, 2014 at 10:43
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    #2 Gold

    I would like to thank PBH for what I believe to be the best reflection of rankings in the country. I think the top 10 is pretty much spot on. I just have one question (not a complaint). How are sides with the same average separated? eg. Grey PE and Wynberg both on 3.21 and Paarl boys and EG Jansen on 3.17.

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    2 September, 2014 at 08:57
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    #1 All Black

    Just an observation. How can you have a team in the Top 20 who only played 12 matches? I realise that the formula does not take this into account.

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    2 September, 2014 at 08:47

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