BoishaaiPa has been compiling a ranking system since 2009. Here is the combined effect of those 5 schoolboy rugby seasons.
| Rank | Team | Avg | |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Grey College | 4.00 | |
| 2 | Affies | 3.60 | |
| 3 | Paarl Gim | 3.47 | |
| 4 | HJS Paarl | 3.45 | |
| 5 | Paul Roos | 2.94 | |
| 6 | Noord-Kaap | 2.92 | |
| 7 | Monument | 2.88 | |
| 8 | Waterkloof | 2.84 | |
| 9 | Outeniqua | 2.81 | |
| 10 | KES | 2.51 | |
| 11 | Glenwood | 2.44 | |
| 12 | Grey PE | 2.43 | |
| 13 | HTS Drostdy | 2.40 | |
| 14 | Garsfontein | 2.36 | |
| 15 | Oakdale | 2.35 | |
| 16 | Bishops | 2.27 | |
| 17 | EG Jansen | 2.24 | |
| 18 | Westville BHS | 2.21 | |
| 19 | Selborne | 2.21 | |
| 20 | Boland Landbou | 2.20 | |
| 21 | Kearsney | 2.19 | |
| 22 | Kempton Park | 2.13 | |
| 23 | Wynberg BHS | 2.11 | |
| 24 | St Andrews | 2.10 | |
| 25 | Tygerberg | 2.05 | |
| 26 | Rondebosch | 2.04 | |
| 27 | Maritzburg College | 2.03 | |
| 28 | Centurion | 2.00 | |
| 29 | HTS Middelburg | 1.98 | |
| 30 | Queens College | 1.98 | |
| 31 | Nelspruit | 1.94 | |
| 32 | Marlow | 1.93 | |
| 33 | Florida | 1.92 | |
| 34 | Hugenote (Well) | 1.89 | |
| 35 | Michaelhouse | 1.88 | |
| 36 | Diamantveld | 1.85 | |
| 37 | Framesby | 1.81 | |
| 38 | Menlopark | 1.76 | |
| 39 | Pretoria Boys High | 1.76 | |
| 40 | Dale College | 1.73 | |
| 41 | Ben Vorster | 1.70 | |
| 42 | Die Brandwag | 1.70 | |
| 43 | Hilton | 1.67 | |
| 44 | SACS | 1.66 | |
| 45 | Nico Malan | 1.64 | |
| 46 | HTS Louis Botha | 1.62 | |
| 47 | Stellenberg | 1.58 | |
| 48 | Jim Fouche | 1.57 | |
| 49 | Durbanville | 1.51 | |
| 50 | Voortrekker (Bethlehem) | 1.51 | |
| 51 | Transvalia | 1.50 | |
| 52 | Sentraal | 1.48 | |
| 53 | Middelburg | 1.47 | |
| 54 | Strand | 1.43 | |
| 55 | Daniel Pienaar | 1.39 | |
| 56 | Klerksdorp | 1.37 | |
| 57 | Duineveld | 1.36 | |
| 58 | Swartland | 1.36 | |
| 59 | Ermelo | 1.33 | |
| 60 | Bellville | 1.29 | |
| 61 | Eldoraigne | 1.27 | |
| 62 | Helpmekaar | 1.22 | |
| 63 | De Kuilen | 1.20 | |
| 64 | Rustenburg | 1.19 | |
| 65 | St Stithians | 1.16 | |
| 66 | Jeppe | 1.15 | |
| 67 | Marais Viljoen | 1.10 | |
| 68 | Brackenfell | 1.04 | |
| 69 | Kingswood | 1.01 | |
| 70 | DHS | 0.90 | |
| 71 | Graeme College | 0.86 | |
| 72 | Merensky | 0.85 | |
| 73 | St Johns | 0.83 | |
| 74 | Parktown Boys | 0.79 | |
| 75 | Northwood | 0.77 |
@jakes: Jakes no I am sorry (must be the effect of those 2 whiskeys). Offcourse Kempies is playing in the Nupower. I saw the game between Kempies and Nellies at LC de Villiers stadium
@Speartackle: Mr Speartackle I suspect Affies is going to have a difficult year in 2014. Suppose there would be a couple of young players in the team.
@Woltrui: Die matriekgroep van Affies vir volgende jaar was baie gemiddeld deur die ouderdomsgroepe. Is hulle st 9 groep sterk vir 2014 of het baie nuwe matrieks ‘ingeskryf’?
Kempies have been playing in the Nu power the last 3 or so years. Did they withdraw for 2014? Not aware of that. The new format where there is no 1/4 final and there is basically no change of winning the competition if you have one mishap, is damping the spirit of this competition. Looked what happened to Garsies and EG Jansen this year. Klofies also withdrew this year
@Jakes: Agree with your list jakes. IMHO HTS infront of Kempies and Centurion in front of Garsies. Think the Monnas supporters will feel Monnas must be no 1 since they have beaten Affies 3 or 4 times in a row. Wonder why Kempies is not playing in the Nupower?
@ Woltrui-I would say it is fairly accurate except maybe one or two changes
Affies
Klofies/Monnas(very close)
EG Jansen
Kempton park
Nelspruit
HTS Middelburg
KES
Garsfontein
Centurion
@Jakes: Must have been two very large whiskeys
If I look at that list on this suny morning Jansies could be in the top 4. I must have been “gekletter” 
How does your NV log look from 2009 to 2012? You agree with BHP log for NV?
@ Woltrui- I think you must have had more than 2 whiskeys
Why Jansies on the bottom when they were on top this year 
NV predicted log for 2014 (after a whiskey or 2) looks as follow:
-Monnas
-HTS Middelburg
-Klofies
-Garsies
-Affies
-Nellies
-KES
-Centurion
-Jansies
-Transvalia
Garsies to take Nupower and Monnas to win Beeld troffee. 8)
@valke: Yep, Grey High’s itinerary is much better – i.e. first play some schools and then an u17 Academy team, not u18.
@Vleis: Vleis, it is worse than that. The EG Jansen team had 8 – u/16 boys and 7 – u/17 boys in the starting lineup.
Not the best idea to start a tour like that.
@jakes: I believe that the Leicester Tigers Academy beat EG Jansen by 51 to 0 on Friday. Is it the EG u17 or u18 team on tour? If it is the u17 team then that is a hell of a tough opening fixture to play a provincial u18 team out of season for Jansies!
@ Roger- EG Jansen is 58 years old this year, school is in Boksburg, East rand.Their rugby started picking up from around 1995. They are a co-ed school with about 500 boys currently in the school(speak under correction)..They have a lot more girls than boys in the school though, do not know the reason for that..
@Speartackle: So what you are implying if it was his stupidsomething you would have, well let us just made a lot of people happy.
@Roger: nope Durban Tech was playing rugby for 20 years before KES even considered it….1910 was the first game, KES was in the late 30’s, my grandad played in one of KES’s first 1st teams in 1941! Spring chickens!
@Kes Dutchie: Met hulleself?
Rodger the Dodger, the SBR landscape has been changing and will continue to do so as the young guns catch up. Best all the old, historic, traditional archaic toffs pull their heads from their collective butt and take note of the EG’s Outeniqua’s and Garsfontein’s, these boys will be beating the likes of Houghton Ridge High and other regional powder houses regularly over the next 100 years. BTW, Tygerberg will be 60 next year.
@Kes Dutchie: “Kan Ernstig Speel” ???
Snoeker of darts miskien, maar beslis nie rugby as ek na die jaar se Top 50 kyk nie.
@Tierklou: @Tierklou: KES stands for “Kan Ernstig Speel”.
@Roger: Search and you will find.
KES?? What does that stand for……… Kon Eens Speel ??
@Speartackle: amongst other things
@Grasshopper: would exclude Durban Tech then wouldn’t it
@Roger: Germies Lake bud, you’ll find a lot of tigers there
@Tierklou: i’m struggling to find any reference to Tygerberg anywhere ………….throw a dog a bone Tiertjie and tell me where to look
@Roger: agreed, I would like to see 90 years at least….80 years separates the men from the boys….
Actually sad to see Klerksdorp only 56th. One of the powerhouses during the Admin Cup era and supplier of Sharks stalwarts Wiehann Herbst, Riaan Viljoen and SA’s next great 12, Andre Esterhuizen. What a season he had with the u/21’s and still only 19. Martin Bezuidenhout and Elton Jantjies also former pupils there.
Klerksdorp reminds me a lot of the West Rand…………you can take someone out of Klerksdorp but you can never get the Klerksdorp out of him. ( Long John Berks )
@Roger: I’m trying to find KES on BHP Top 50 for 2013, without success. Are you still playing rugby over there?
Sounds to me you are like some WP supporters that’s still riding the wave of the ’82 to ’86 5 year Currie Cup wins.
@Woltrui: ah but Wolies – who are we to dispute BoishaaiPa’s scientific methodology. Its there in black and white for all to see
Given KES’s head to head record against Monnas – I would put them ahead of the Wit Bulle too
@valke: I confess to not knowing much at all about EG Jansen. How old is the school, how many pupils and is it co-ed or boys only?
@Tierklou: spoken like a supporter of a twenty year old school
30 years separates the men from the boys, establishes a record of consistency and eliminates the “pretenders”. That’s why asset managers focus on track records and 10,15 and 20 year performance – class is permanent old chap. I know who I would invest with 8)
@meadows: Are you talking about rugby or the age of brandy?
@BoishaaiPa: And before we had glass bottles- we used clay . And two cases was only just enough for the journey between Cape Town and Southampton.
@BuffelsCM: Water and ice in summer….just water in winter. I better go check it out before Madam Zille’s 6pm curfew
@Gungets Tuft: Eish! I’d be out of friends. That’s like telling a Natalian that friends don’t let friends drink Hansa or Old Brown Sherry
@BOG: Yes I believe you because you could not get Richelieu brandy in those days because he was still alive and a Cardinal and Captain Morgan was still a deckhand on the Jolly Roger!
@BOG: I would think that 5 years is insignificant even in terms of assessing recent performance – 1 or 2 good years in the last 5 make a big difference – 10 years would be more meaningful and 15 even better.
@ Valke- you are so right. Does anyone realize that EG Jansen was about to share the number 1 spot with Grey College in 2008 ? But then there was that mishap in the Beeld semi final against Klofies, after they have beaten Klofies in the Nu power semis and Monnas in the Finals to win that competition. In 2004 they have knocked Affies out in the super 16 ( the fist team that could manage that) only to be beaten narrowly by Affies in the Beeld final..EG had some bad luck in Beeld trophy semis and finals in the past due to depth and injuries, but this year they managed to keep the players in shape..They had some brilliant teams since 2004..
@Tierklou: But if you have a standout, after looking at the stats, 100, 75, 50, 25 and 5 yrs ago, it tells some story
Stats for the past 5 years is fine. But 30 years? Who cares? Even JJ Du Preez was going strong 30 years ago.
Good to see 3 Cape schools under the top 5 and great to see Tiere at 25! 2014 is going to be an interesting year.
You see 10 vs 11 and 11 vs 12 should happen at the Grey PE festival…
@Playa: I was in an environment where we paid R55 for KWV-3 yr- PER CASE, delivered abroad. Now you have an idea what is paid in customs and excise. Ten year old was far too expensive- that was R76 per case. Five yr old, was somewhere in between. We always said -the more we drank, the more we saved. The most expensive KWV red wine, was R55 pcase.But, that were them days. I am a teetotaler now for more than 13 yrs
@Playa: Friends don’t let friends drink Castle Lite … in fact .. Castle Anything ….
According to BHP the Noordvaal top 10 log since 2009 look as follow.
Affies
Monnas
Kloof
KES
Garsies
Jansies
Kempies
Centurion
HTS
Nellies
I don’t have stats available but in my opinion this log cannot be correct. In my opinion the top 3 is pretty accurate. Although I do regard KES as one of the best schools in the country and have a soft spot for the reds, they don’t play the powerhouse Northvaal schools on a regular basis to come even close to a 4 place on the NV log. KES in my opinion at number 10 in the NV. Nothing against Garsies but even Rugbyman and Djou would agree that Garsies weren’t even close to the top 10 before 2013. Garsies weren’t even playing Nupower(top 16 Afrikaans schools in NV) before 2013. Because of their 2013 season maybe no 10 on the NV log. The 2 Mpumalanga powerhouses, HTS and Nellies has consistently being top competitors in both the Nupower and Beeld trofee. The same with Jansies. Can definitely not be behind Garsies and KES. IMHO the top ten should be something as follow:
Affies
Monnas
Kloof
HTS Middelburg
Jansies
Kempies
Nellies
Centurion
KES
Garsies
@Playa: I hope you enjoy that with water (and lots of ice) and not a foreign substance like Coca-Cola!
Currently available at any Pick n Pay liquor store at R84 – a bargain price Playa !!!!
@Speartackle: Eish! Hope your boy recovers quickly.
P.S. I am more of a KWV 3 year old specialist…though I don’t see much of it in the few bottle stores that still open in Cape Town
@valke: to support your point having just looked at rankings for the post above on KES and Glenwood – EG Jansen were 8th in that year.
@Roger: For what the rankings are worth that was probably Glenwood’s best year in the last 10.
Rugby365 had them at 4 behind Grey College and Gimmies in joint 1st and Grey High at 3rd. KES were 19th and Monnas 20th.
@Roger: I think you will be surprised how high EG Jansen would be if you take the last 10 years. This is from ’09 – ’13. They had very good teams in ’04 and ’08 as well, winning Nu-Power etc….
Last 30 years will see them fall of the list, but will see Kempies and Hugenote Springs right up there. Hugies won a couple of Beeld trophies in the ’80’s.
@Speartackle: a floating trophy – so I can use it as a raft when crossing Emarentia
@meadows: KES were pretty strong in 2008 as well – they were captained by Wandile Mjekevu and I think lost only 2/3. No idea about ’07,’06 and ’05. ’04 was horrendous in terms of rugby results though – similar to ’13
@Roger: Rog I think we must sponsor a trophy for that fixture from now on…………what do you think?
Regarding your car………….luckily its downhill back to Germiston
@Roger: I dont think that going back to 2004 would benefit Glenwood – they did have a strong side in 2008 though.
@Speartackle: heh Speartjie – will you be under your Hansa Gazebo for KES Monnas in Aug 2014?
I hope the parents behave and that my car makes it up Krugersdorp hill
@Playa: No brother I’m not from the Far East hey, Roger is more likely to be close to Germies Lake.
I hung up the glasses about 2 months ago cause I prefer the bottle lately. I was gonna be there in December for golf but my son’s blindsomething burst, you know that thing just above your groin, so he is out for 6 weeks. I was looking forward to a few Fish Eagles there at The Cage
@Speartackle: Hoe gaan dit Spear, my brother from the East Rand?
When are you gracing us with your presence in the Cape? Everyone’s into Castle Lite nowadays, I need a partner in my Carling Black Lable mission so that I stop feeling out of place.
@BoishaaiPa: Happy to be the Dale rep…I can go as far back as 1891
@BoishaaiPa: good luck – that would make for very interesting reading – and believe it or not – KES have a victory over HJS in that period – 1988 at the St Stithians festival
I’m guessing Dale, Queens and Bishops will all move up the list if you go back that far – and schools like Noord Kaap, Garsfontein EG Jansen and Waterkloof will plummet.
Pretty sure KES will remain top twenty
@Roger: I would need all the results from all the schools since 1984…That is a little hard to get…unless I can get a rep frome each school to capture it for me. Think you gave me an idea!..I just need to contact all the schools early next year and get them to capture their results for me!…
@BoishaaiPa: hmmm – definitely a fairer reflection though wouldn’t you say? In fact, I would go back 30 years – all the way to 1984 – can you do it?
@Roger: I was thinking that result would probably be the one most discussed!…If I have to go back 10 years we would eliminate lots of “newbies” on the block, so we will stick to the current!
its definitive then – Glenwood sux and KES rulz
heh BoishaaiPa – instead of swilling tinnies on your stoep in Cape St Francis, why don’t you go back 10 years. That would include 2004 which was the 2nd worst year, results wise, in KES’s history – then the Hoppers would have a chance
Heh Hopper – I notice there are 6 KES boys in the North squad for the festival of cricket scheduled for Newlands in the New Year – how many Durban Tech fella’s made it
Noordkaap had a great 2010 and 2011 so maybe deserve their high finish.
I think that’s pretty much correct………………..just not too sure about 10 and 11. Think they should swap.
Just looking at the Private schools
1 Bishops
2. Kearsney
3. St Andrews
4. Michaelhouse
5. Hilton
6. Helpmekaar
7. St Stithians
8. Kingswood
9. St Johns
10. St Albans (probably because theyve beaten Hilton and Kearsney in the last two years)