Maritzburg College fixtures for 2014

Maritzburg College has released their provisional fixture list for 2014, giving us some an idea about what to expect next year:

Firstly College will not be taking part in the Grey High PE festival which is surprising. Grey High made away with their festival for 2013 and attended the MC 150th at College.

Secondly the St Stithians festival may only be a two day Easter Festival due to Easter not being part of the school holidays between the first and second terms in 2014.

Thirdly Wildeklawer which will in all likelihood take place at Diamantveld in Kimberley looks like it will be played on Saturday 26 April and Monday 28 April.

For MCOB and schoolboys, it’s Hilton College on the all-important Reunion Day which will be held on 31 May 2014.

Finally confirmation that Maritzburg College vs Grey College is back on the SA SBR annual fixture list. That game is scheduled for 16 August 2014.

# Date Opponents / Festival Venue
1 22 March 2014 Northwood / Voortrekker Home
2 12 April 2014 Pretoria BH Away
3 19 April 2014 St Stithians Fest Day 1 Away
4 21 April 2014 St Stithians Fest Day 2 Away
5 26 April 2014 Wildeklawer Day 1 Away
6 28 April 2014 Wildeklawer Day 2 Away
7 10 May 2014 KES Away
8 17 May 2014 Kearsney Home
9 24 May 2014 Glenwood Away
10 31 May 2014 Hilton (REUNION DAY) Home
11 07 June 2014 Michaelhouse Away
12 14 June 2014 DHS Away
13 21 June 2014 Westville Away
14 26 July 2014 Affies Home
15 02 August 2014 Pretoria BH Home
16 09 August 2014 Glenwood Home
17 16 August 2014 Grey College Away

86 Comments

  1. avatar
    #86 Rugger fan

    Any idea who is going to be involved with the Skonk Week?

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    8 October, 2013 at 16:41
  2. avatar
    #85 Gungets Tuft

    @star: Northwood and Voortrekker play against Colleg ewith offsets in all age groups. NW vs College at firsts, then Voories 1st against College 2nds etc.

    Northwood compete like-for-like at hockey right through I believe.

    In Durban, Northwood should team up with Pinetown or someone, get the same thing going.

    Very much doubt Northwood would have pulled out because “Westville are too strong”, probably much more to do with the reduced number of weekends available, and because Westville do not play 3rd term. Northwood, like DHS, will not be able to compete with Westville, Glenwood or College through the age groups, it is what it is. Hopefully it will start to get a future life with the new heads and the Medical Aid ….. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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    8 October, 2013 at 12:31
  3. avatar
    #84 star

    @ Buffel- theoretically 2 dates. I will revert as soon as I find out.

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    8 October, 2013 at 10:37
  4. avatar
    #83 Buffel

    @star: when do we play westville-date? am very interested to see how this one is going to go. On paper it should be a very good game.

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    8 October, 2013 at 10:19
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    #82 star

    I see that Northwood are teaming up with Voortrekker to play MC. Word on the street is that they have pulled out of the Westville fixture as apparently Westville are too strong. It will be interesting to see if they apply the same logic to GW. If true then it is really disappointing as to build yourselves up you need to test yourselves against the better teams( at least in your own region). It was also sad to watch some of the cricket outcomes against NW where the 1sts won by 8 wickets( before lunch for the 2nd week in a row) the U16A by nine wickets( 10 wickets the week before against Clifton) and one team scored 350 in 35 overs. In my day Northlands had the greats like R.Smith followed by the likes of S.Pollock. Sport in KZN cannot afford to get polarised and the gap must be reduced not increased. Rumour also has it that Westville will be playing Kearsney twice next year and might make a road trip to Affies. I hope the issues that occurred at GW will not be repeated. 8-O

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    8 October, 2013 at 08:29
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    #81 rugbyfan

    @BOG: Hey mate how things going well as you say things have changed and yes most Old Boys would like the QC fixture brought back which is do able remember QC still can provide 21 teams to play against GCB and ye as distance goes the 315 km is not as far as most other fixtures, agree maybe the GCB 10/11/12 th teams can play against Queenian friends at JJS :lol: If they are not in lock down. The other thing brought up was that a permanent Cricket and Athletics fixture also be brought in which I think would be very competitive.

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    27 September, 2013 at 11:18
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    #80 BoishaaiPa

    @Grasshopper: Maybe the KZN terms are different, but here in the civilized world, the 26th of July is already the third term and after the holidays and Craven Week..so unless you have longer or different terms this date will be even worse as you will have less time to prepare after the holidays!

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    19 September, 2013 at 09:46
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    #79 Grasshopper

    @BoishaaiPa: Earlier, not early. We usually play Grey in August as their 2nd to last game before they play Paul Roos last. It’s the 3rd term, boys have been on holiday and some at Craven Week. The lower teams have to start from scratch in preparations hence get hammered!

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    19 September, 2013 at 08:42
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    #78 Grasshopper

    @BoishaaiPa: Agreed on all fronts! Glenwood should play a max of 18 games a season, preferably 16.

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    19 September, 2013 at 08:40
  10. avatar
    #77 BOG

    Early by comparison and fresh from the school holidays.

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    19 September, 2013 at 08:30
  11. avatar
    #76 BoishaaiPa

    @Grasshopper: 26th of July doesnt seem very earlier in the season to me!..

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    19 September, 2013 at 08:01
  12. avatar
    #75 BoishaaiPa

    @Grasshopper: Glenwood would not be dropped by Wildeklawer for 2014 as it is a 3 year deal. 2012-2014 was the last contractual period if I am not mistaken. Glenwood must perhaps just say No for a change and think more about the boys and less about the exposure. It seems they are excepting every invite that reaches their inbox!..If Paarl Boys excepted every tournament invite they will be playing 30 games a season!..They restrict it to 2 tournaments a season now and have been loyal to St Johns for Easter although there are more competitive festivals around. It is great for supporters and followers of SBR to watch these teams at festivals like Kearnsey etc, but I do believe it is to the detrement of the team in the long run as tough games early in the season leads to more injuries and fatigue…I dont know what Paarl Boys full fixtures for 2014 is, but I doubt if they will go to more than 2 festivals, WK being one.

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    19 September, 2013 at 07:59
  13. avatar
    #74 Grasshopper

    @BoishaaiPa: Ah OK, looks like Glenwood might not have been dropped then even though we are not ‘traditional’ oppenents. Glad we get to play them in Durbs and earlier in the season now, much better :wink: Seems Glenwood will be at Grey PE and Kearsney, maybe dropped from Wildeklawer…

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    19 September, 2013 at 07:15
  14. avatar
    #73 BoishaaiPa

    On Grey College’s prelim fixture list Glenwood is slotted in for the 26th July 2014. This is what I have received to plan for next year as prelim fixtures. Pls Note that this is just the tradional derbies at first.

    21 Maart Grey Kollege Sportdag Bloemfontein

    10 Mei Affies Pretoria

    17 Mei Selborne Bloemfontein

    25 Mei HJS Paarl Paarl

    26 Julie Glenwood Durban

    2 Augustus Grey High PE

    16 Augustus Maritzburg College Bloemfontein

    23 Augustus Paul Roos Bloemfontein

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    19 September, 2013 at 06:56
  15. avatar
    #72 BOG

    @Gungets Tuft: Obviously Keith Oxlee. That must be an oversight and as I said, I am “passed” the age— Past the age, dammit! This is what happens when one uses the Free State edition of the Oxford Concise. No, I was a follower of his, but that was before I gained wisdom or knew where Natal was.

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    19 September, 2013 at 02:05
  16. avatar
    #71 Gungets Tuft

    @BOG: Have to say it, you know one of them is a College boy, one In the long line of fly-halves produced on Goldstones.

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    18 September, 2013 at 20:12
  17. avatar
    #70 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: a pity about the school, by the 90’s they were whipping boys. Still my best haul was against Alex under13a, 7 for 7. We batted first posted 224 for 7 in 50 overs, then they batted and were bowled out for 18. Great food though!

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    18 September, 2013 at 20:04
  18. avatar
    #69 Gungets Tuft

    @Grasshopper: Alex wasn’t co-ed when I was at school. I think they started admitting boys in about 1990 :mrgreen: :lol: :roll:

    Their headmaster was a big cricket fan. The best man at my wedding was from Alex, played firsts there, went on to, in my opinion, just miss out on Bok selection. Injuries caught up with him. He would have matriculated in about 1984 though.

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    18 September, 2013 at 19:56
  19. avatar
    #68 BOG

    @Gungets Tuft: No, I am passed the age where I collect info, especially from previous years- thats now apart from my posters of Frik du Preez, Keith Oxlee, Doug Hopwood and John Gainsford

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    18 September, 2013 at 19:14
  20. avatar
    #67 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: Good old Alex, had the best cricket lunches in the province, even better than Hilton and Michaelhouse. I think they were co-ed too so good to check out the chicks!

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    18 September, 2013 at 17:47
  21. avatar
    #66 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: Glenwood under16’s also beat Affies last year I believe so it must be one of Affies worst intakes, however they always combine to create a good side. Never seen a weak Affies side…

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    18 September, 2013 at 17:46
  22. avatar
    #65 Gungets Tuft

    @BOG: :mrgreen: Tjaas, and I will also hit Refresh before I post next time. 10 minutes after your’s …

    See if you have records from 2012 – I have ém somewhere but too busy to look, and taking a break tonight so it is not going to happen later either. :roll:

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    18 September, 2013 at 17:16
  23. avatar
    #64 Gungets Tuft

    @BOG: Ummm … ??

    They might have played GCB as U15’s I am told, possibly one of the festivals. Don’t have any info, sorry.

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    18 September, 2013 at 17:10
  24. avatar
    #63 BOG

    @Gungets Tuft: Im not senile- we posted simultaneously and I only saw your comment afterwards. You right- I dont think that GCB played MC (U16s)

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    18 September, 2013 at 17:00
  25. avatar
    #62 Gungets Tuft

    @Grasshopper: We already have the mixed day with Voortrekker and Northwood. Probably 1sts vs NW, 2nds against Vorries 1st, 3rds vs NW 2nd. GC are way stronger than Voortrekker.

    Pity about a school like Alexandra – we used to play down the line, their 1st now play our 6th or something, and get walloped.

    Struggle to see PBHS travelling down to KZN 3 times a year. They already have College and Westville – although Ville go up there next year.

    Hell, it has become a complicated situation hey. In my day it was Treverton, Weston, Estcourt and the Durbs schools. Thats it.

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    18 September, 2013 at 17:00
  26. avatar
    #61 BOG

    @Pedantic: I notice that Gungets either missed your question or avoided it. Im not sure if MC U16 played GCB this year, but if my memory serves me correct, GCB only lost one match, against Affies by 1 point. They drew with Paul Roos

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    18 September, 2013 at 16:56
  27. avatar
    #60 Gungets Tuft

    @Pedantic: They beat Affies (but I am told it was not a great Affies U16 year – wonder how that affects next year!?). Don’t remember them playing GCB, not last year, but I could be wrong.

    That side was unbeaten from midway through their U14 year, drew against Westville last year. I hope it is busines as normal from next year – College traditionally has a weak year in 4. Of course that has to be read with the modern world where all the tier 1 schools have caught up, so a 80’s style good year is now probably a hard fought satisfactory year, if you get my drift.

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    18 September, 2013 at 16:51
  28. avatar
    #59 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: true, double headers also take away from the years bragging rights if they both win a game. Playing once makes it more special, our one and only chance to beat College makes it really tense. PBHS could play us instead and you can then fit in another fixture, maybe Jeppe or a mixed day with Campbell and Voortrekker?

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    18 September, 2013 at 16:46
  29. avatar
    #58 Gungets Tuft

    @Grasshopper: My post was a rebuff to Green Hoppers silly “scraed they will be beat” post. There is no space in the tight calendar for GC, so our Hopper thought he would slip a little insult in there. The logic of it – we have decided to play GCB (this school that is scraed .. !?!?) – escapes me.

    I see St Charles is another not to make the cut?

    Going to be interesting to see all the fixtures and how other schools fit all their normal fixtures in. Glenwood will need to start in February and play till September to fit 25 in.

    All that said, it does beg the question, how can we consider double headers with Glenwood and PBHS and leave out KZN schools, other than the obvious – the fixtures down the line in rugby, hockey and and the other sports.

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    18 September, 2013 at 16:42
  30. avatar
    #57 Pedantic

    @Green Hopper: I’m sure that as U16’s next year’s College group beat Affies and Grey Bloem (or was GB a draw?). We need Gungets’ mental stats book here.

    I know it doesn’t exactly pan out that way as they mature – but surely they will back themselves to be seriously competitive.

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    18 September, 2013 at 16:02
  31. avatar
    #56 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: But then all your teams wouldn’t get a game. We have traditionally played College twice a year, I bet we are close to being College’s most games against a school with DHS, Hilton and Michaelhouse. Anyway, if everyone wants to drop Glenwood I’m sure others will be keen…

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    18 September, 2013 at 15:41
  32. avatar
    #55 Gungets Tuft

    Talking about George Campbell – they can notch one up as well.

    http://www.iol.co.za/scitech/technology/news/pair-s-radical-digital-laser-coup-1.1579233#.UjmXcH-ynlg

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    18 September, 2013 at 14:08
  33. avatar
    #54 burra

    @Green Hopper: that is a good idea for College to drop the Glenwood return game and try slot in Campbell.

    I was shocked no to see GC in the fixture list because they boys at Campbell were over excited knowing that their first game of the season was College.

    Hope a plan would me made to make the fixture possible.

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    18 September, 2013 at 10:55
  34. avatar
    #53 Gungets Tuft

    @Green Hopper: It’s a crowded season due to the holidays and public holidays, as well as the private schools having their mid-term breaks, something had to give. Perhaps College should drop that return match to Glenwood to make room for the Campbell match.

    And let’s not start on the “scared to be beat” twaddle, it’s not as if you have this high/dry ground to stand on at the moment. Time to think before you ink.

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    18 September, 2013 at 10:23
  35. avatar
    #52 Green Hopper

    @Grasshopper: hard to play Grey Bloem first year back and at Bloem , going to be cricket scores, will also be teh majority of teh u16 A team from last year in teh 1st team so lets see how they do @burra: scraed they will be beat , i think GC not givent enough curdo and credit

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    18 September, 2013 at 09:48
  36. avatar
    #51 BOG

    @CyndiAtRugby: Thanks- that is why I asked the question. That is also what I heard- that MC was just being added to the fixtures, but not at the “expense” of GW. So Grasshopper, this is not the end— Your pain WILL continue ! :lol:

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    18 September, 2013 at 09:28
  37. avatar
    #50 burra

    @Gunget Tuft: GC will indeed not taken lightly in 2014.
    I also agree with you no kzn school can take them down with their second.
    I haven’t heard about their potential team as yet but I hope they have a strong team that would give any team at any given day a hard time.

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    18 September, 2013 at 09:10
  38. avatar
    #49 Grasshopper

    @CyndiAtRugby: That was a while back now, fixtures would have been discussed after then, but maybe earlier in the year which would be better for us. Playing the best school in the country in your last game is suicide….

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    18 September, 2013 at 08:15
  39. avatar
    #48 Grasshopper

    @star: Me too, hopefully Dixon’s where it was supposed to be played this year :mrgreen:

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    18 September, 2013 at 08:14
  40. avatar
    #47 star

    The simple solution would be to get the GW fixture list. Surely if MC has confirmed theirs the rest cannot be far behind. I am interested in one match up in particular and where it will be played :mrgreen:

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    18 September, 2013 at 08:12
  41. avatar
    #46 CyndiAtRugby

    @BOG: @Grasshopper: During school assembly after the Grey away game, the Glenwood boys were told that this fixture was continuing.

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    18 September, 2013 at 08:01
  42. avatar
    #45 Grasshopper

    @BOG: yes, website owners consent via contract. They then implement a JavaScript pixel tag on all of their pages. The digital industry body here in SA has endorsed our technology and our technology is audited and accredited to global standards :-). Not sure it has been cancelled but if rumour is correct it has been…probably only play Grey now at tournaments like Kearsney or Wildeklawer…

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    18 September, 2013 at 07:16
  43. avatar
    #44 BOG

    @Gungets Tuft: We definately think the same on academics – back then. @Grasshopper: Thanks for your explanation, but still far too advanced for a BC born individual. Does this “tracking” ( or I suppose, monitoring) take place with or without the consent of the website holder? It may be a stupid question, but consider my extenuating circumstances (age). On the subject of the GCB / Glenwood fixture, are you absolutely sure that this has now been suspended or was the MC fixture just added to the GCB fixture list?@rugbyfan: I agree that you will find very few GOBs who would not want to see the fixture with QC re-instated. There is history and nostalgia, but Im afraid much has changed. Its like a SA sitting in Australia and longing for something in SA, forgetting that what they are longing for, is no longer a reality. First problem are numbers. If they play in QT, this can be overcome by involving other schools, eg. Hangklip (and heaven forbid, JJS) This is what is done when Grey goes to Upington at the beginning of each season. They play against several schools in the area, to ensure full participation. You may find that Grey VII play against Keimoes I or Grey U14 Es playing Keimoes U 14 A. But what is the solution when QT must migrate to Bloem? I just dont think its practical for more than one school to travel (for various reasons) But as a start, they could just play in QT (as they do in Upington)

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    18 September, 2013 at 07:08
  44. avatar
    #43 Grasshopper

    Hmmmm Kilkenny!! Best drink ever invented!

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    18 September, 2013 at 06:59
  45. avatar
    #42 Gungets Tuft

    @Grasshopper: Popcorn and oatmeal is a horrible combination … so far. Perhaps need to add a Kilkenny to the mix for some savoury …

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    18 September, 2013 at 06:38
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    #41 Grasshopper

    @BOG: digital audience measurement is tracking every website in SA that runs advertising so that agencies can look at an online dashboard to make decisions on where to place the advertising based on target markets. Basically an online trading currency where sites can be compared on an apples vs apples basis and not on their own internal dodgy web analytics. That is the very simple explanation. You are right each country asks different things at interview. I mean I got this job on a Skype interview only….

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    18 September, 2013 at 06:36
  47. avatar
    #40 Gungets Tuft

    @burra: Hadn’t noticed that. I wonder what the teams other than the Firsts are gong to be doing on the Saturdays of the Saints and Wildeklawer tournaments.

    Not for a second do I think that GC are a team that any of the KZN schools can take on with their second side, let’s just say that I don’t think anyone will be taking GC lightly for some time (!), but perhaps there is a GC day on one of those 2 days :?:

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    18 September, 2013 at 06:35
  48. avatar
    #39 Grasshopper

    @rugbyfan: fair enough, if those are your traditional rivals then so be it. Most schools have traditional rivals of which Glenwood have a few. College, Hilton, Michaelhouse and DHS over 90 years, Kearsney 80 years and Westville/Northwood 60 years. The fixture with Grey was a mismatch but gave Glenwood a good idea of where they need to get. Hopefully we replace the fixture with a better match from Gauteng. Good luck with the College fixture, maybe another mismatch for a few years. Sometimes things need to be tried to find out eg Glenwood tried a fixture vs St Stithians for about 5 years but it was a mismatch in the lower teams. Gungets, enjoying your snacks? ;-)

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    18 September, 2013 at 06:30
  49. avatar
    #38 Gungets Tuft

    @BOG: Gave the wrong impression then, my varsity results were like my matric results, all way too close to 50%. I considered every 1% over 50% a lost opportunity to jol. No need to see those in the light of day. My point was that we bust a gut to get the marks, then they become meaningless in the blink of an eye.

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    18 September, 2013 at 06:11
  50. avatar
    #37 BOG

    @Gungets Tuft: @Grasshopper: I agree that results mean nothing. But you talk as if you were disadvantaged because you were never asked for the results. Personally, I am very happy that this was never done :mrgreen: Excuse my ignorance, but what on earth is a “digital audience measurement” company? This sounds like the thing to do- sitting at home with a laptop and casting an eye on your increasing bank balance ! My son in the UK, tells me that they dont even look at certificates- all they are concerned with is if you can do the job or not. Yet in Canada and the USA, they love certificates. So, it differs. How about giving us a “SWAT” analysis of the different rugby positions? That would be interesting !

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    18 September, 2013 at 06:06
  51. avatar
    #36 burra

    College isn’t playing George Campbell in 2014??

    How come?

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    18 September, 2013 at 06:06
  52. avatar
    #35 Gungets Tuft

    I think I might jog off and get some popcorn and fanta …. :roll:

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    18 September, 2013 at 05:55
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    #34 rugbyfan

    You can never replace history and what it stands for so welcome back MC.

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    18 September, 2013 at 05:46
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    #33 rugbyfan

    This is part of GB move to get back some of there traditional rivals I was present earlier this year at a meeting in Bloem were it was decided that due to a lot of pressure from Old Boys on why history was just being scrapped for the sake of results was put on the table.

    The conclusion was that the so called new teams GB were playing were not better or should I say did not put up a spirited performance against Grey Bloem as some of the old Traditional rivals did. Also it was agreeded that say playing at some ground in Durban had no value as what was found at playing say at Goldstones in PMB or the Rec in Queenstown. For example one Old Boy even claimed that every time he went down to East London to watch his son play against Selborne the highlight of his trip was the stop at the Rec in Queenstown to look around as that is what he remembered he even commented that he believed GB would beat a good Selborne or Glenwood team in DBN or EL but would have to battle to the bitter end just to beat a poor Queens team at the Rec.

    Ask any Grey Bloem Old boy of pre 1995 what they remember about there schoolboy rugby and they will always tell you the same thing the train trip to Queenstown and what waited for them there which they believe cannot be replaced.

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    18 September, 2013 at 05:44
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    #32 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: agreed, all a degree tells you in this person is capable of learning, that’s it! From there it’s all about your experience. I too have never been asked to disclose my degree results or even the certificate. After 3 months probation they will know if you can do the job or not. Well that is how I hire and our staff are very capable and loyal…

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    17 September, 2013 at 20:18
  56. avatar
    #31 Grasshopper

    @Maroon: I hope so, was a waste of time for 20 of the 27 teams, no match. Hopefully we have arranged a more competitive derby. Grey Bloem stated they were looking to play traditional opponents of which College is one.

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    17 September, 2013 at 20:15
  57. avatar
    #30 Gungets Tuft

    @BOG: And your matric results mean squat the moment you have been accepted into your course of choice, then your marks scored in your degree subjects mean nothing the moment you earn your degree – certainly I have never even been asked to produce my resluts (sic) sheet, just the actual certificate. How damn transient is that.

    Then .. people like me, when I was still stuck in the corporate zoo and interviewing poor deluded suckers who thought they wanted to work there, asked questions like “what team sports did you play, what position did you play (defenders and strikers, props vs fullbacks have different styles and strengths)”, which leads back to Grassy’s point about sport teaching you things that academics never could.

    And me .. I am the Supreme Ruler of my Universe, daarso in the front of my truck … :mrgreen:

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    17 September, 2013 at 20:11
  58. avatar
    #29 Maroon

    @Grasshopper: Are you not playing in the big league anymore Grassy. Are the rumours true that your Grey College derby is no more?

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    17 September, 2013 at 19:59
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    #28 Grasshopper

    @BOG: academic struggle? I was severely underperforming as was getting 6A’s in standard 6. My sister got 7A’s at Westville Girls High and I got higher marks than her in standard 5 where I was dux. Sport interfered with academics, also girls and booze was a distraction. Agreed 6B’s in 96 would be about A’s now for sure. I’m the MD of a digital audience measurement company.

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    17 September, 2013 at 19:51
  60. avatar
    #27 BOG

    @Grasshopper: Six Bs is what I would view as an academic struggle. How are you managing now? No, further back, everything above 50% was regarded as an infringement on your free time. My view changed when my kids were studying. Are these impressive results because the standards are improving or vice versa. I think the latter. If you got 6 Bs in 1996, you would have gotten at least 5 As now. And that is fact.

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    17 September, 2013 at 19:40
  61. avatar
    #26 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: also well done to College on your recent academic results, very good. Glenwood too are seeing a steady rise each year in results, especially in the sciences and maths. Last year one failure ruined the 100% pass rate. I think even Westville had a failure. DHS too are upping the standards. Northwood due to demographics have always had good academic results…

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    17 September, 2013 at 19:08
  62. avatar
    #25 Grasshopper

    Agreed on all your points! School is about education first and foremost. I got 6 B’s in 1996, went on to do an Honours B.Comm. Without the decent education I would not be where I am now. BUT sport taught me many many other things about life that I don’t regret.

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    17 September, 2013 at 18:53
  63. avatar
    #24 Gungets Tuft

    @Grasshopper: Bru. Since 1995 College have played 67 matches in total against teams like Paarl Gym, Paarl Boys, Affies, GCB, Waterkloof, Outeniqua, Monument, Queens and Paul Roos. If you need the exact dates and scores then I can offer those.

    So, in the past, schools in KZN HAVE played, and beaten (a few) of the schools on your list.

    I admire Glenwood, I really do, but they are not breaking virgin ground here. What Glenwood are starting to realise, and they will do so more and more, that playing all those schools regularly is not sustainable. Travel costs, and the safety of travel have a serious effect. Tours each year cost the average College parent between R1000 and R1500 a year, just for bus fares to our regualr opponents (KES, Affies, PBHS). Play water polo and they drill you another big one because they fly, so tours are R5000 a pop. So, you can do it for your first team by getting sponsors and making sure that the boys have the Sharks Academy and pro-contracts to fall back on when they finish school. The ones that play 1sts and do not make that cut, well, good luck. Some of them, like BM, are styling anyway, but A students playing firsts are few.

    Schools are more required to actually educate boys. When I left school all I needed was a Varsity Exemption and I was in. Now, a varsity pass right on the edge, like mine was, gets you a spot at Durban Uni of Technology, or if you are lucky a B.Comm at KZN. Now, even with the best view of the world, those are not destinations of choice. If you want to get into the Top 7, best you have a B agregate.

    It’s a different world now, and schools have to be more circumspect about how sport fits into the whole ambit of what is now considered a good education. Just my opinion, use it, or don’t, but I think you need to chill a bit, realise that there is a much bigger picture to consider. I know it’s a rugby blog, but still …

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    17 September, 2013 at 17:14
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    #23 Grasshopper

    @All Black: You obviously have not been on the blog long enough to know I have the utmost respect for College and what they do……Gungets implications are incorrect. My point is only Glenwood and College play 3rd term rugby, both play in Wildeklawer etc so are probably the most tested schools in KZN. Kearsney and Westville only really test themselves at the Kearsney festival. Kearsney had such a great side this year that it was a pity they didn’t test themselves more. You guys need to not take it so personally. Glenwood rightly or wrongly play the best to see how they can improve and strive for being the best. However, most of those tests result in defeat but ocassionally they don’t which is a great thing as KZN schools in the past never played or beat the likes of Affies, Grey Bloem, Paarl Gim, Paarl Boys etc…….well College did once or twice……anyway no point in arguing with you guys…

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    17 September, 2013 at 15:36
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    #22 All Black

    @Gungets Tuft: Well said sir.

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    17 September, 2013 at 15:09
  66. avatar
    #21 Gungets Tuft

    @Ploegskaar: Sheesh, MG can get woes hey. Mail me, I am very interested in the whole story but not going to bore the okes esor with it.

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    17 September, 2013 at 14:52
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    #20 Gungets Tuft

    @Ploegskaar: On that note, I see “Red”Rob Davies isgoing to pronounce on the import tariff issue as well as brining regulations this week. Interesting times …

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    17 September, 2013 at 14:39
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    #19 Gungets Tuft

    @Ploegskaar: You need to mail me. I didn’t go back to the story. Happy to have my perceptions cleared up. Gungetstuft(at)gmail(dot)com

    I suspect you might teach me something about dolly’s and winch lines ook :roll:

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    17 September, 2013 at 14:36
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    #18 Gungets Tuft

    @Grasshopper: You could do yourself a big favour and try and avoid the constant little bards that you put into posts which are always going to provoke. Which ones, you ask … well, things like :

    “when we do get to play the local sides our boys are shattered” (implying that if you lose its due to overwork)

    “we can make it about Collage if you wish, maybe talk about the the great 87 side and those in the 90′s if you wish” (implying that there has been nothing before or after)

    “What I am meaning is Glenwood is the one school in KZN that really does test themselves” (implying that the others do not, or that Glenwood is simply a noth above, due to a fixture list)

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    17 September, 2013 at 14:32
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    #17 Ploegskaar

    @Gungets Tuft: :twisted: One of my traders pointed this annoying guy out on a recent industry related News24 article, which in her words was spreading various untruths and concocted lies. I told her to respond to a few of your comments, factually of course :mrgreen:

    No worries though, just concerned when the true facts are not tabled. Similarly you will not find me on any UTASA blogs, or commenting here on wheel lifts, dolly wheels and winch lines, I suppose.

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    17 September, 2013 at 14:23
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    #16 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: Just saying Glenwood’s fixture list is mad, arguably the hardest in the province if not the country, dumb in my opinion so when we do get to play the local sides our boys are shattered! To me we should focus on the local games and limit the outside the province games to 5 max….

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    17 September, 2013 at 13:42
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    #15 Gungets Tuft

    @Ploegskaar: There’s a fine line between blogging and stalking meneer 8-O

    @Grasshopper: Bru – lets not get silly now hey. You made a statement (maybe 3 in the Top 20), it was wrong. No need to start spreading the discussion into 1987 (sic) or the 90’s. Glenwood choose a tough fixture list for some reason, excellent. I am not sure there is any point in waving this around every time there is a discussion about another KZN school. But thanks for the good wishes about GCB, we will probably need it.

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    17 September, 2013 at 13:31
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    #14 BOG

    I was waiting for the drum sticks to start flying. Any way, its a change from the handbags. Where is Rugbyfan, representing the local producers? And lets keep it fair. We dont want one side throwing imported turkey breasts and the other, those minute, locally produced steroid raised chicken wings.

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    17 September, 2013 at 12:43
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    #13 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: Off topic, good to see a different opponent for your Reunion Day. It’s not all about Glenwood, I just so happen to be an Old Boy so it’s relevant to me…..we can make it about Collage if you wish, maybe talk about the the great 87 side and those in the 90’s if you wish…

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    17 September, 2013 at 12:40
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    #12 Ploegskaar

    @Gungets Tuft: Now now, no need for handbags, its not like Grassy made uninformed comments about the state of the local poultry industry, on News24 for instance.

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    17 September, 2013 at 12:23
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    #11 Gungets Tuft

    @Grasshopper: Call me a liar for one. It’s more than “maybe 3”, which is the real point.

    Your point … “My point is the ‘big league’ is over 20 games with half against top 30 sides…..very very tough!!” … is actually just to make it about Glenwood, which is fine. I will try to resist the temptation ….

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    17 September, 2013 at 11:41
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    #10 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: I don’t believe Framesby are in any top 20 list, the others bar Affies are all in the teens. Glenwood played Paarl Gim, Affies, Grey Bloem, Paarl Boys, Monument, Garsfontein, Kearsney all top 10. Boland Landbou, Paul Roos and Drostdy were borderline top 20……anyway, my point is plenty in the top 10, which is very tough!

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    17 September, 2013 at 11:33
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    #9 Grasshopper

    @All Black: Relax boet, it was said tongue in cheek. If you know me on these blogs I am the first to say College is the greatest rugby school in KZN by far. What I am meaning is playing a few of the top 5 schools and increasing fixtures. I am one of the Glenwood bloggers asking for Glenwood to drop 5 fixtures and bring it down to 16 or 17 games a season. What I am meaning is Glenwood is the one school in KZN that really does test themselves, too far in my opinion……

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    17 September, 2013 at 11:28
  79. avatar
    #8 Gungets Tuft

    And come on Kearsney okes, you have some major bragging rights this week as well. Nick Sloane, the master salvor in charge of bringing up the Concordia – Kearsney boy.

    Been watching the whole thing – brilliant job. Must have been all the clean air daarso in the Leafy Suburbs …. :mrgreen:

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    17 September, 2013 at 11:17
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    #7 All Black

    @Grasshopper: Big league? Welcome? My word you can be condescending. Enough said.

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    17 September, 2013 at 10:26
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    #6 Gungets Tuft

    @Grasshopper: 9 Top 20 actually (11 if you count the double headers), using BHP’s rankings.

    Grey PE (won), Framesby, Affies, PBHS (twice), Grey PE (won), Noord Kaap (drew), Glenwood (twice), Kearsney, Westville. Honourable mention for Paul Roos (22nd) and a traditional top 20 in KES, even if they were weaker this year – the intent was there.

    Perception is everything hey?

    20 games … no. I would object if it got to that, we don’t need to use our boys as a marketing tool.

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    17 September, 2013 at 09:38
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    #5 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: I knew that was coming, what I meant was playing more Top 20 sides. Glenwood played 7 or 8 this year, College maybe 3. My point is the ‘big league’ is over 20 games with half against top 30 sides…..very very tough!!

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    17 September, 2013 at 08:59
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    #4 Gungets Tuft

    @Grasshopper: Wasn’t aware that we had left the big league. Did that happen while I was sleeping. Added GCB after a 5 year distraction, have a couple of wins in living memory.

    Going to be tough, no question, but we have been playing Affies every year so not shy of the heavies.

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    17 September, 2013 at 08:33
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    #3 Grasshopper

    Welcome to the big league! Playing Grey Bloem is a huge task, especially away. Good luck!

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    17 September, 2013 at 07:44
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    #2 All Black

    Very tough fixture list. A big squad will be needed, no doubt.

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    17 September, 2013 at 07:33
  86. avatar
    #1 Gungets Tuft

    Eeisch. How is that travel schedule at the beginning of the year. Start on 12th April, to Pretoria, a week later back in Chunnisbeg to Saints, 5 days later in Kimberly, 10 days later back in Chunnisbeg for KES. Imagine if they had thrown the Grey Festival in there as well, late March. In fact, looking at it, they play at home just 3 times in the 2nd Term!

    3rd Term is also damn tough, Affies, PBHS, Glenwood and GCB in 4 weeks.

    Hope the squad has some depth ….

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    17 September, 2013 at 00:05

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