| SCHOOL | SCHOOL | NOTES | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dundee | 16 | 26 | Sarel Cilliers | ||
| Glenwood | 20 | 26 | Monument | Glenwood Old Boys Day. Premier Interschools – on TV | |
| Westville | 21 | 17 | Michaelhouse | Westville Old Boys Day | |
| Hilton | 38 | 22 | M. College | ||
| Kearsney | 76 | 6 | DHS | ||
| St Charles | 29 | 24 | Northwood | St Charles Old Boys Day | |
| Empangeni | 19 | 36 | George Campbell | ||
| Framesby | 30 | 31 | Marlow | ||
| Dale | 3 | 38 | Grey HS | ||
| Queens | 30 | 19 | St Andrews | ||
| Otto du Plessis | 17 | 73 | Die Brandwag | ||
| Muir | 22 | 29 | Nico Malan | ||
| Boland Landbou | 10 | 0 | Bishops | ||
| Langenhoven Gim | 9 | 71 | Outeniqua | ||
| Drostdy | 27 | 27 | Tygerberg | ||
| Paarl BH | 29 | 5 | SACS | ||
| Paarl Gim | 40 | 3 | Wynberg | ||
| Rondebosch | 5 | 10 | Paul Roos | u16 game bound to draw much interest | |
| Stellenberg | 6 | 15 | Hugenote | ||
| Kingswood | 47 | 3 | Stirling | ||
| Jeppe | 88 | 0 | St Albans | ||
| St Johns | 18 | 17 | Marais Viljoen | ||
| Pretoria BH | 17 | 17 | KES | ||
| St Stithians | 20 | 10 | Parktown | ||
| St Benedicts | 75 | 12 | Sutherland | ||
| Centurion | 60 | 11 | John Vorster | Beeld | |
| Garsfontein | 40 | 37 | Eldoraigne | Beeld | |
| Wonderboom | 48 | 3 | Zwartkop | Beeld | |
| HTS Middelburg | 36 | 3 | HTS Witbank | Beeld | |
| Nelspruit | 18 | 11 | Middelburg | Beeld | |
| Kempton Park | 44 | 9 | Die Anker | Beeld | |
| EG Jansen | 94 | 0 | Jeugland | Beeld | |
| Transvalia | 40 | 19 | Vereeniging Gim | Beeld | |
| Florida | 52 | 6 | Noordheuwel | Beeld | |
| Ben Vorster | 31 | 3 | Pietersburg | Beeld. On TV | |
| Voortrekker (Beth) | 28 | 21 | AHS Kroonstad |
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@Tjoppa: Nee wat ou Tjoppa. Ek vermoed ons gaan die stille verdwyning van Capeman sien. Net om weer onder ‘n ander naam te kom k&k praat op die blog. Reken egter ons sal hom kan herken. As jy tyd het om te kill gaan na die site by 397. Veral die kommentaar is hectic!
@Koos Roos: And we insist on an apology in THE TAAL on this blog.
@CapeMan: Lastly, Wynberg’s headmaster did follow it up. NOT confirming your account of what happened. I trust they will handle the incident and appropiate action be taken.
@CapeMan: I have read your little story at 192 again and you should be ashamed of what you said there. The manner in which you dealt with a hearsay story is despicable. You even alledged that Paarl Gym has done so in the past. Sorry your credibility is highly doubtful now. You also lashed out at afrikaans boys in general. WHY? Is it because we kick your arses most of the time we play you. Sies man!!!!!!!
@Rugger fan: Even better. Bheki Cele (the man who clothed the rank of Chief of Police with such dignity) has an opinion too. A disturbing one at that. Much safer on this site.
@Rugger fan: Whats unbelievable are some of the comments at the bottom of that article…SMH!
The Paarl Gym report is now in the press:
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Racial-slur-mars-school-game-20130604
@BuffelsCM: This came to us from Deon Gerber from Paarl Gym on 23rd May – they evidently felt that playing under floodlights would add to the “gees” – I agree – it should be good – they go out of their way to host events like this. I think the boys will enjoy the experience as well!
@sacssupporter: Thanks – it is strange though that Tony Stoops said that it stayed the same (according to the organisers)
@Oom Kaspaas: Hey Oom Kaspas…your boys played extremely well on Saturday in beating us – it was like David vs Goliath – your front row was about 100kgs heavier than ours – our guys battled on for 70 minutes but lost to a bigger, better team – mooi gedaan!
I can assure you that our school, just like Rondebosch and Wynberg has huge respect for the Paarl & Stellenbosch schools – you guys attract the best youngsters and your schools provide great support and facilities to get the best out of them. Long may it last – we are trying our best to get our structures and coaching set-ups closer to yours…it takes time!
What annoys me and a lot of others on this blog is the fact that our union (and others it seems) allows selectors for provincial teams to come from school representatives. Every boy in this province deserves an equal chance to represent his province – that is all I am looking for.
@BuffelsCM: We received these new times a few days ago:
DATE TIME
2013-06-22 14:00 DALE COLLEGE vs BOLAND
2013-06-24 19:20 DALE COLLEGE vs GIM
2013-06-26 09:20 DALE COLLEGE vs WYNBERG
2013-06-22 15:20 MUIR COLLEGE vs RONDEBOSCH
2013-06-24 18:00 MUIR COLLEGE vs WYNBERG
2013-06-26 13:10 MUIR COLLEGE vs GIM
2013-06-22 16:40 GREY PE vs GIM
2013-06-24 16:40 GREY PE vs BOLAND LANDBOU
2013-06-26 08:00 GREY PE vs SACS
2013-06-22 18:00 QUEENS COLLEGE vs WYNBERG
2013-06-24 15:20 QUEENS COLLEGE vs SACS
2013-06-26 11:50 QUEENS COLLEGE vs RONDEBOSCH
2013-06-22 19:20 SELBORNE COLLEGE vs SACS
2013-06-24 14:00 SELBORNE COLLEGE vs RONDEBOSCH
2013-06-26 10:40 SELBORNE COLLEGE vs BOLAND
Should be a few great days rugby….
Die storie het nou in die verkeerde hande geval.
http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/blog/details/wynberg-walk-off-after-paarl-gym-racist-slurs
Gim se skoolhoof het klaar die versekering gegee dat daar streng opgetree sal word indien dit waar is.
Gim het die laaste drie weke teen Bishops, Rondebosch en Wynberg in presies 48 wedstryde gespeel. Het 44 gewen, 3 verloor en 1 gelykop gespeel. Het 1503 punte aangeteken en 371 teen hulle, wat ‘n wedstryd gemiddelde gee van 31-8.
As ek reg is was die wedstryd wat die sogenaamde rassistiese aantuiging vandaan kom die u16C wat Gim op daai stadium 35-5 voorgeloop het. Teen Wynberg het Gim al hul wedstryde gewen en 527 teen 54 punte behaal, gemiddel is 33-3, vat die weer omstandighede in ag en jy kry die som totaal van frustrasie.
Dan kla die lotte nog oor die hoeveelheid spelers in die CW span. Plaas hulle eerder gaan kyk wat hulle hokkiespelers reg doen en hul rugby dit volg en ophou kla as dinge bietjie rof raak op die rugbyveld.
@DieBos: Moenie Bishops se verlore oppie Plaas vergeet nie.
@Oom Kaspaas: Stem saam oom. Wonder net hoeveel games het die souties Saterdag gewen teen die “ranchers”. PRG wen al 16 teen Bosch. 679 punte vir PRG en al 16 spanne van Bosch saam net 49 punte. Seker maar sware las.
@PaarlBok: Ek stem saam. Al die feite nie voor ons. Kom ons los dit vir die skole om uit te sort. Egter steeds geinteresseerd om te weet wat die telling was toe dit gebeur het. Capeman, jy was mos daar. Help ons asb? O ja , nee Playa, ek praat nie rassisme goed nie. Die gevolge van sy omgekeerde boetie is egter net so erg. Lees my opmerkings met aandag, sonder laatnagfoute, maak dit soms bietjie sin.
@BuffelsCM: Verskoon sacssupporter. Hy ly nog aan so bietjie skok na Saterdag. Behalwe dat hy hom op hoorsê beroep oor wat moontlik daar tsn Gim en Rondebosch gebeur het, het hy verder ook nog nie 1 feit korrek aangehaal nie. Om ‘n skool so swart te smeer (rasssitiese idioom is bloot toevallig!) is darem net te onregverdig.
Hy sal hier teen die einde van die week weer bykom. Die “ranchers” , soos hulle die Afrikaanses noem, het hulle bietjie op hulle plek gesit en daai “chip” op die skouer raak ” n sware las.
@Collegesupporters, here is a great clip of Reunion Day; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eYR3INLAWA
@sacssupporter: Hi there, I think that info is not correct. I’ve mailed Tony Stoops and according to him, the Head of Rugby at P Gym said that everything is staying the same
At east St Charles managed to win at their OB day
More than College and Glenwood could do ;)
@noordwes: Stem MAAR die skade is klaar gedoen. Jy het geen idee hoe die een versprei het nie. Mense wat hier pos moet BAIE seker maak veral as dit by rasse beskuldigings kom. Dit word BAIE ernstig opgeneem veral by die afrikaanse skole en ek dink nie ons Soutie vrinne verstaan dit nie. Daai laaitie moes baie mooi gedink het toe hy sy span van die veld gelei het .maar sal ek glad nie verbaas wees as daar ‘n ander storie is. Daar is altyd twee en die waarheid is so tussenin.
We must all read the houserules again.The schools will sort the insident out.
I dunno now. Capeman Playing a Kots Watson racial story here and we all fall for it. Maybe he can inform us with the detail before we judge this one? Isnt this just a bit Wynberg preciousness or was the score to high or was his team tired of the rain or was the air to fresh or did our coloured player called theirs coloured? Just posting using the racial card is a very dangerous one specially quoting schools names.
@Ploegskaar: Hahahaha!I’ll see you there.
@Queenian: I agree, this is no fault of the school at all.PG cannot be held accountable for the behaviour of one bad apple.
@Tjoppa: Also bear in mind that the ref will not hear everything.When an accusation comes to the ref’s attention, he has to be 100% sure.If the offender denies the allegation,it becomes one’s word against another.The last thing you want to do as a ref is to send off an innocent player for such a serious offence.I think it would be worthy to have all the facts (i.e. was the ref notified of these slurs/what,if any,action did he take/what ultimately led to the boys walking off) before judging it as the wrong method of protest.A person can only take so much before violent retaliation becomes imminent.Best to just walk away.
@Queenian: That is it. All refs was instructed to stamp out racial slur. I do not question the wrong of it I question the method of protest.
@Queenian: Warren said he will actually join me for the first days’ games, but I will enjoy the Wynberg/Quuens game in the spirit of neutrality
@Ploegskaar: Hope you going to support Queens hopefully Warren has had a good influence on you.
@Playa: Ye the racial thing does happen which is not good but I don’t believe that by one Paarl Gym boys saying something makes Paarl Gym per say a racially motivated school.
My son plays in a team were there are 11 black kids and 4 whites he is the only white kid in the scrum and he hears it all the time so ye it happens and I have personally seen parents on the side lines edge this on but my advice as always being to him to ignore them and don’t get embroiled in lowering yourself to there level.
What we do need is ref,s that control this as some don’t I was very impressed with a white ref who reffered my son,s game 3 weeks ago were he yellow carded 2 boys at the first scrum for racial chatter. He then called the coach and told him that if heard one more word from his team he would red card them as he herd it and guess what that was the end of it.
@Playa: Why after, rather before a good win by the Men in Black
@BuffelsCM: Kan ongelukkig net die Saterdag se wedstryde gaan kyk, maar dan sien ons daar. Dink net Paarl Gym word werklik geaffekteer deur CW, met een van Boland en een of twee van elk van die Soute se manne wat nie daar gaan wees nie.
@BOG: Agreed – and not only with racial issues – b ut with any form of foul play in terms of the law book.
@BOG: Alright, let me end off my piece before this drags for longer than it is necessary.It is unacceptable for anyone to racially abuse anyone.We all face instances of some sort of discrimation from other races.Some are enforced by law,some are just circumstantial.
The whole of the Afrikaner community went up in arms after Luke Watson’s comments a few years back.He had his reasons for saying what he said…but do those reasons justify the end?Could he have expressed his frustration in a better,more mature manner without offending a whole population?
It is my hope that this incident will be investigated and appropriate action taken against the guilty, if such a guilty person exists. Furthermore, it is my hope that all forms of discrimination, of whatever kind, will unconditionally be condemned, wherever such brutality takes place- also ensconced as rules or laws- and that we will no shy away from this responsibility or try and justify it, under any circumstances.
@Umtata: Cape schools week times have changed – Paarl Gym have moved the games later on the first two days so that they can play under lights.
I know SACS’ first game is at 19:20hrs….
@Tjoppa: Easier said than done mate. I have been on the receiving end of racial abuse at both school and varsity level.And in more cases than not,the abuse on the field is continuous and not just one utterance.Refs do not penalise something they dont see/hear.Usually when a team walks off the field,it is because the referee has failed to adhere to the pleas of the team’s captain.I do not have the facts of what happened here,so I will just speak from my experience and not speculate.Walking off the field is not a political statement.It is the right thing to do.Have you ever seen a racially charged bust up on a rugby field?I have been in one,which was followed by lawsuits and all things messy.These boys did the right thing.
All I am saying is that a discussion on quotas and BEE etc must not eminate from a case of racial abuse.Let’s not hide behind the injustices that are still around in this country to excuse racism.
It is my hope and trust that any good school in SA will investigate and deal with any forms of bad behaviour by their pupils during school functions (whether this is an academic excursion or on the sports field).
I’m sure PG will do the same assuming that the powers that be were correctly informed of the allegations. Let’s not judge them as a school for a single incident.
@Queenian: Looking forward to seeing them, thanks for the intel.I’ll be shouting for the underdogs on that day,may even join the Muir boys for a war cry seeing as it is exactly the same as Dale’s
@Ploegskaar: Will definitely do so.Hopefully after a good victory for the men in red and black
@Ploegskaar: Hi Ploeg…….count me in as well !!
Ek het jou nommer by Gideon gekry. Sal my email adres sms vir jou.
So the first matches are on the Saturday and then Monday and Wednesday ? I guess the CW and Academy players will not be allowed to take part ?
@Playa: I find it extremely disappointing- in fact disturbing, that you and others can try and justify discrimination . You are the one who is missing the point. For your information, lest I be falsely accused of prejudice, I was an outspoken critic of the old government in a time and on a campus where it was certainly not fashionable to do so. I am equally outspoken against the present regime. And for the record, I have several (black) foster children who my wife and I raise as our own.( Just for the purpose of this argument) What you seem to be saying, is that when brutal discrimination against a whole community(of ALL ages) is sanctioned by government, it must be accepted and ignored here, but when racist remarks are allegedly (yet to be investigated) made, we need to speak out and take action. That my friend, is a perfect example of double standards and selective morality. Principle is based on consistency, irrespective the victim(s) or time in history. And the “born frees” (your expression) are the very victims of the brutal and obnoxious policies of BEE and quotas. Stop trying to justify brutal discrimination. It stank in the nostrils of basic decency before 1994 and does so, still. If the alleged incident took place, the perpetrator needs to face appropriate consequences. But dont look the other way when we encounter social injustices elsewhere. It has the tendency to explode in ones face.
@Playa: All true what I say if these boys insist making political statements by walking of the field. They must do this in regards of BEE and Quotas. I furthermore say they and their supporters will not do that as it is not fashionable.
I say if they were brought up in the right way they would have approached the ref who is under instruction to handle this matter in an appropriate way. I promise you they would not walk off the field if they were in the lead or if one of their team mates was affected by BEE or the Quota system.
Surely Paarl Gym will sort this out they are above this type of rubbish.
@Playa: Muir are a lot better than people think although they have a young team they have got better as the year has gone they have a youngster who has being playing 15 or 10 who is a lot like Selwyn Davids of Nico Malan.
Muir ran St Andrews down to the wire 3 weeks ago and lost 2 minutes from the end against Nico Malan on Saturday so they will compete.
@CapeMan: Sad to hear this. No place for this in schoolboy sport and pretty surel Paarl Gym will act against the calprits.
@Ludz: Agree with you there.
@Playa: Will be there for day 1 as well and next to the field for the opener against Dale. Come shake hands.
@star: I agree. Old Boy’s day should be a local derby. Might have been a great day to smoke the peace-pipe with Westville since we played College last week and DHS was away.
@Gungets Tuft: “If I see someone hitting you again I will send you off”.
I shall most definately be utilising that line in the future!!
@Playa: @CyndiAtRugby: good points Playa, there is no way to justify a 16 year old racially abusing another, a boy born in 97 can’t be shouting out racial abuse. That’s despicable man. To use quotas to suggest that it was in some way justified, come on gentlemen, what are we teaching the kids who read this blog!!
Ek hoor Saterdagaand met Bulls vs Cheetahs game die kommentator reken daar tans iets soos 30 oud Greys is wat provinsiale senior rugby speel. As ek n som moet maak van die 21 jarige tot 30 jarige huidige spelers wat op Grey was praat ek van 10 jaar se skoolverlaters met n gemiddelde groep van 22 spelers per jaar as ek net na die eerstes verwys. Dit is dus omtrent 220 spelers waar van slegs 30 nou speel..
Waar is die ander 190?
Skeidsregters?
Guys we live in a non-racial society protected by the Constitution freed from the racial policies of the past, how many times does the ANC have to repeat this!
@Playa: Tough tough fixtures for the college!!! Just hope the boys play for the jersey and play to the best of their abilities
@beet: I watched a game recently, Bulls. Their right wing tackled an oke, good midrif tackle. The tackled player literally then jumped over him, did a little turn, landed shoulder first, feet in the air. Mapoe got a yellow, I thought it was a dive. The immediate sanction for a past-horizontal tackle is going to cause more of that, I already see signs of it.
EG JANSEN 94 – Jeugland 0- Nee wat, ek is bevrees dat Jeugland, ( wat destayds een van die sterkste Atletiek en Rugby skole in Noordvaal in 1990’s en vroeg 2000’s was) nie meer in die makro skole liga hoort nie. Alhoewel hulle nog groot getalle kinders het, het iets fout gegaan met die skool se sport. Ek neem aan al die goeie atlete en rugby spelers gaan nou na die buur skool, Kempton park toe.
@Umtata: Dale and Muir are in for a tough time here.I’ll be there for the whole of Day 1.I hope the weather will be far more accomodating than what we’ve had in the last couple of days.
@ Scrum Doctor- When you refer to ” that game” I presume you are referring to the 2nds. But I think the counter rucking by House was superb across the board.In fact in the U16A game Westville dominated the set phases and House lived off turnovers at the ruck to keep in the game and eventually win. Something Westville needs to learn from. Maybe the tight forwards should be cleaning out the rucks rather than playing at outside center where their distribution skills get exposed.
@ McCulleys Workshop- Nice to hear that there was a clear change in your perception of Westville rugby and that both players and supporters responded positively and in the interests of SBR.
@ Greenies- I agree the game at GW did not seem to have the usual atmosphere of an OBs day.Maybe the lesson is honor tradition with tradition.
@beet: Hi Beet. I agree with you. Must say I have the highest regard for Glenwood. I am just reminding Greenwood that Affies players aren’t the only players that get warm under the collar from time to time.
@Gungets Tuft: No we already have this in rugby. Pro rugga players are already feigning injury when high tackled or diving in attempts to milk penalties when they get touched by opponents during kick chases.
What I’m talking about is more like a soccer player biting his opponents arm because the guy was holding him. I don’t know if that sort of thing has ever happened.
I’d accept that the biter deserves a lengthy ban but players would think twice about holding and jersey tugging if they knew that they were in for half the sentence dished out to the retaliator.
TimeTeam AScoreTeam B
9:00Boland Landbou – Dale
10:20Rondebosch – Muir
11:40Paarl Gim – Grey High
13:00Wynberg – Queens
14:20SACS – Selborne
9:00Rondebosch – Selborne
10:20SACS – Queens
11:40Wynberg – Muir
13:00Boland Landbou – Grey PE
14:20Paarl Gim
8:00SACS – Grey PE
9:20Wynberg – Dale
10:40Boland Landbou – Selborne
12:00Rondebosch – Queens
13:20Paarl Gim – Muir
Cape schools week fixtures starting on the 22nd – 26th June
@beet: I remember a ref in a Zululand league match I played once. Went to a player that had just collected a flattie, said to him “If I see someone hitting you again I will send you off”.
Also not condoning foul play but the very last thing I want to see is soccer (cold shiver down my spine) type grandstanding to get penalties. You already see if at S15 level, with players coaching the refs, screaming at them for infringements etc. I can just see a player being held back and throwing his arms up like Suarez and theatrically throwing himself to the ground. Ag nee man, please turn into the ref from Melmouth rather …
@Woltrui: I’m not condoning foul play but what always bugs me about the law at all levels is that it seeks to punish the transgressor without any sanction for the instigator. Perhaps the rule should be that an instigator gets ½ the ban time of the offender. So if the Glenwood boy deserved 10 min in the bin, perhaps the Monnas boy should have gotten 5 min for holding him back – which caused him to lash out in the first place.
@Koos Roos: Are you justifying racial abuse?
Capeman, still waiting for that score.
@Scrum Doctor: Ditto my overall impression – coaching.
@Greenwood: Ek het Saterdag se wedstryd tussen Monnas en Glenwood op TV gevolg. Een Glenwood speler kry geelkaart agv vuilspel. Die Glenwood kaptein word kort daarna aangespreek na hy ‘n wilde vuishou gooi na ‘n Monnas speler. Klink na skeinheiligheid as jy nou kla oor vuil spel van ‘n ander skool. Moenie klippe gooi as jy in ‘n glas kas woon. Affies en Glenwood het oor die algemeen baie respek vir mekaar.
@GreenBlooded: The stands were rather empty throughout the day. While many of the Monnas parents travelled down, they did not stay for the 1st XV game which was a pity. There wasn’t the usual atmosphere – not sure why. Well done to the small group of Monnas boys and girls who cheered loudly through out the 1st team game.
Not happy with some of the calls made by the ref but complaining is not going to change anything.
I did find it interesting that generally the Glenwood B teams and below won by large margins: U16B 25 -5; 3rds 42-22, 4th 75-0. The style of rugby was also different with the lower teams – the under 16B game in particular was very very fast.
@Playa: You are overlooking the fact that these kids, no matter what their age, are reminded of race by things like quotas. How do you justify to a white 16year old who is better than a black 16 year old why the latter was chosen. On your version, both are bonfrees? The kids see these injustices themselves.
@Greenwood: My point is that with the evolution of SBR, it seems (only my observation) that teams are being coached to allow this, and applaud it. What I’ve always enjoyed about M College, is that in watching them on Goldstones or away, for 35 years, I’ve never seen crowd or player behavior that has been questionable. I’m not suggesting that there has never been an incident, or foul play, but I’ve never seen non fair play by red black white. Saterday is an example of their exemplary spirit, by fielding a team with 5 regulars pulling out on the day. Obviously they aren’t chasing the SBR ranking list!
@star: The biggest problem Westville had in that game was not securing their own ball when attacking . I lost count of the number of turnovers at the breakdown they concended . When a player who is csrrying the ball goes strait to ground it is hard for his own players to secure the ball legally – House were well organised and their counter rucking was superb – hence the result
@CapeMan: Totally agree – there must be respect between teams otherwise discipline will go out the window. It is an incredible demonstration of unity for a team to walk off the field in protest.
@Koos Roos: The point of the date of birth is that these are the so called “born frees”.The generation that was not around during apartheid, and therefore could have only learned this language from their parents.It is also to emphasize the trouble this country is headed for if these boys are our future leaders.
I am not claiming moral high ground here, what is wrong is wrong.Let us not make excuses for unacceptable behaviour.
As Gungets Tuft correctly pointed out, a mature and positive approach is what is needed in dealing with these issues,and it starts with the adults in the house.
@McCulleys Workshop: I also watched the game and was very impressed with the comitment of house . The fact that so many line breaks from Westville resulted in so few tries will be of concern to the coaching staff – on three seperate occasions after long range line breaks ( with support players) Westville failed to score. It was also nice to see House playing loose forwards who were true loosies ( not only ball carriers) . I thought the House loosies were the main reason that the score did not get ugly . Congrats to the grade 8’s with their show before the main game .
Mculleys
Glenwood – Affies at Dixons
I remember that match – Affies were going to win at all costs – in the last 15 Mins things got out of hand right in front of me and I saw many fresh air punches being thrown by the Affies players – lots of off the ball pushing and shoving from the boys in white as well
Some of the Glenwood parents even shouted ” come on Affies that’s not the way you play”
@Gungets Tuft: Yes – I think your last statement sums it up – “Is it fair, hell no. Is it real, sadly, yes.”
Unfortunately we can not help when we were born and the situation/rules we were born into. I am reading a book on the end of WW2 = and the pointlessness of so many young lives destroyed by the war. Fortunately we dont have that.
The quotas – they are tough. My son lost out (potentially) last year on a quota. But the main issue – “Thats not the point!” as to why he lost out – it could have just been that the coach and management wanted a boy from DPHS – or a smaller/bigger player – or a player that had played at the U12 level…… there are many many reasons.
He had to go out there and do his best in the teams he was selected for. And he did. But as they often say in cricket – “one swallow does not make a spring.”
And my son will not become a Springbok, or a 1st XV club player at the age of 13! He has a good few years ahead of him.
And yes, the KP, Antoine Claassen, Brad Barret etc. option may be the way to go. But time will tell.
I also remember the words of the late Ian Rogers after he had been diagnosed with cancer. “I’d give my left ball to be able to get back on the paddock – even if it is only Merchiston U10E game!”
Not fair – but we need to make the best of what we are given.
@Gungets Tuft: Well said
@Playa:I fail to see what date of birth has to do with it. These boys still have to deal with racial discrimination albeit not so direct as racial slurs etc. Do you realy think think they don’t realize that and that it leads to frustration. And while you seem to claim moral high ground, I am realy starting to get interested in what the score was when this happened. Of course allways easier to walk off when it start looking like a cricket score. Are the people spreading this story sure the ref didn’t stop the game early? In PRG u 16 C it was tje case against R/bosch when we were 95 – 0 up.
@Tjoppa: I think that this is where parents fail, in that they should be explaining a little history to their kids about past injustice and the purpose of BEE and quota’s. I am not taking sides, but it is important to explain the realities to kids. Whether it is fair or not, whether there should be a sunset clause, or whether it is better to pack it in and go, as Kevin Pietersen did, to another country, all these are subjects for mature discussion with your lighties.
The important thing for individuals is to deal with the short term effects (this year U16 kid may miss out due to what is short term unfair policy), and long term effects (if we can have a pool of 500,000 schoolboys to pick from we will be stronger as a country – leave out the debate as to whether we will ever get a soccer mad population to embrace rugby fully!).
My son knows that sport emulates life. You have good days, you have bad days. In life the prize does not always go to the best. Often the job goes to the connected, or those that market themselves best, not always the most competent. But, I can tell you this, in the long run the prize does go to the person who keeps at it, that applies their skill constantly day in and day out. The lucky will run out of luck, the connected (and incompetent) will get found out, in sport and in life. Character gets built in adversity, seldom in victory. I have only ever seen that victory reveals character.
Is it fair, hell no. Is it real, sadly, yes. There is only one positive way of dealing with it – go aout and prove you are the best. I have real life examples of that working.
@BOG: I think you are missing the point here.It is disturbing that there are 16 year old kids who have racist tendencies.If my maths is right, these boys were born in 1997!!!That is a huge worry for the future of this country.BEE/Quotas are not the doing of 16 year old boys, this racial abuse here is.If one has a problem with those policies, take that up with the government.This here is a societal issue which is directly blamed on the boys involved.A boy was victimised by other boys finish and klaar.A discussion on the merits/demerits of quotas can be had, but this is not how it should come about.
@Tjoppa: The injustices and all the other crap that the boys must indure for the sake of politics and reversed racial agendas is sickening. they weren’t even born in the “old Regime” as they love to call it. Haven’t we had enough injustices in the past and experience the consiquences,…but hey this is a rugby blog and should stay that way!!! Does anybody know what the quotas in selecting provincial soccer teams is? I HAVE TO BEG FOR A SYSTEM WHERE ONLY MERIT IS THE CRITERIA AND SELECTORS ARE NOT FROM THE VARIOUS SCHOOLS IN THE PROVINCES!!!!!!!!
@Ludz: Not sure why you are jumping up and down. I commended spot on taking such a strong stand on an unacceptable social justice issue. But I also encouraged him to extend that concern into other areas of social injustice. Surely, you cannot oppose that? BEE and the quota system are equally obnoxious which has impacted thousands upon thousands of innocent people- men women and children. Justice is consistent and a constant. It does not change with time or a change of government. What was wrong yesterday, is wrong today- simple. It requires courage and not what is fashionable.
@Ludz: I do not accept any abuse in life. My request was only that similar action is to be taken by the boys and supporters to show their disgust with BEE and the Quota system. And the statement was made I do not think they will do this as this is not fashionable. I had to sit down with my boys and work to a solution with BEE and the other injustices in RSA. This solution was not in burning and strikes but a positive attitude. If these boys was brought up in a similar fashion a more appropriate action would have followed. So I am waiting for all shouting now to do something positive and in public showing your disgust to a similar injustice. Or do you condone BEE and Quotas in sport.
@Ploegskaar: Kon dit nie weerstaan nie ou Ploeg. Wat my wel pla is dat sommige tans hard bemark onder ouers van o13 cravenweek spelers deur die tradisionele skole af te kraak en wilde beloftes oor hul rugbystatus. Kompetisie met “groot skole” is een daarvan. Nie een van die tradisionele skole(sover ek weet) sal ‘n ander afkraak nie. Daar is te veel respek.
@spot: Do you know why courts don’t allow hearsay evidence? Because it is unreliable.Paarl Gym is looking at the incident. Lets wait and see. Let the people with all the facts deal with it. I am sure Paarl Gym will act against a player should he be guilty.
@Ludz: Agree. No right way, or right reason, to do the wrong thing.
@Tjoppa: @BOG: are you men really going to make this about BEE etc. Gentlemen, a 16 year old boy is alleged to have been racially abused by an opposition from Gim and you men decide to bring up whether BEE has merits or not. Come now you men are better than that.
@McCulleys: Ha, we had a similar area. Great days!
@Djou: No, slightly different age, but McCulleys Workshop was a very particular area at school, where Camel, Texan and Lucky Strike used to meet.
@McCulleys: You part of the band? Was a great song!
@Bog: Ja, was mysylf daar – met my studentelening. En het gaan kyk hoe Zola die 2000m wereldrekord op Crystal Palace stukkend gehardloop het. En die krieket op Lords tuseen die Rose en Wes-Indie. Het lank terugbetaal, maar was alles die moeite werd gewees. Ironies genoeg, toe ek daar was toe wonder ek wat die R/Pond gaan wees aan die einde van die eeu. Onthou ek het nog 55c/l petrol betaal by Brandwagvulstasie in 1985.
@BuiteBreek: Is ja, met ‘n ice cream float.
@Ploeg: En Sondae ‘n footlong by Burger Fair in Goodwood?
@McCulleys Workshop: Yep, there were a few- the titles have faded in my abused mind. Mike Mc Culley was the leader
@Tjoppa: Not often that I agree with you, but a really good suggestion.@spot: With your strong principled stand which is commendable, I hope to see you take that enthusiasm into all areas of social injustice, and as Tjoppa suggests, the despicable practices of BEE and the quota systems,which impacts not only an individual, but a whole group, would be an excellent starting point. Please keep us in the picture re your progress.
@Ploegskaar: Sorry moet nou gaan slaap kan nie meer saam breg nie. Het slegs uit blikkies macoroni en bully beef uit geeet. Geen lobster vir ons nie. Lekker aand.
@Koos Roos: Dis darem ‘n onnodige aanmerking gewees.
@Tjoppa: Ons het baie uitgeeet by die Harlequin en Lobster Pot
@BOG: the Buchaneer hit No 1 on Springbok Radio, classic at the time!
@spot: May we request that you do the same regarding the Quota system or BEE or is that just not fashionable?
@Ploegskaar: Was jou Ma ‘n slegte kok of beeldskoon?
@Djou: Ja, ek onthou baie goed. Is oor VK toe in vroee 80s en het R1-89 betaal vir n pond. Toe was die Rand/Dollar $1-40= 1 Rand. En toe ek 7 jaar later terugkeer, toe dink ek, ek maak n “killing” Toe kry ek R 2-30 en moes Londen deurstap op soek na kontant by die Bureax de Changes wat n bietjie beter koers gegee het. Ek het kontant die land INGESMOKKEL !! Dan het Mc Culley hier, my nog boonop nostalgies gemaak. Mc Culleys Workshop was n baie goeie Kaapstadse band en het my terug gevoer na my dae as student daar- by die ou Clifton hotel en Jonkershoek.
@CapeMan: The Wynberg boys obviously “SAY NO TO RACISM”. Fantastic for them to react like that! We used to do that in the mid-to-late 90’s. If one of our buddies were made to feel unwelcome, the whole group would show solidarity and vacate the place.
The Wynberg boys’ actions were brave and honourable. I salute the Headmaster and the school.
@Tjoppa: Ons rosyne was so hard soos teerklippies en gelyk en geruik soos teerklippies……
@Ploegskaar: Lekker bederf gewees ne.
Ons moes wag vir payday Sondag voor ons rosyne kon kry.
@Tjoppa: Ons had nie geld vir rys, sommer Toppers op rosyne.
@Rooikat: Nee, net die Boland games gaan kyk, maar my oudste dogter is daar en ken die afrigters, Divan en Duppie, goed. Ken eintlik meeste afrigters, maar dan weer doen darem meer myle as die posman om verskillende skole te kyk
@Rugbyliefhebber: Inressante inligting laas week ontvang rakende die suksesvolste internasional spanne. Die spanne wat die meeste wen (1) staan die meeste strafskoppe af dan (2) skop die meeste en (3) maak die meeste duikslae.
@Tjoppa: Geen tradisie, net ‘n bitter kak verskoning vir ‘n rugbyveld! Hy het in elk geval nie eers kom groet nie, dink my kru taal en gebare was skrikwekkend
@Ploegskaar: Maak hulle nog Toppers. Kan onthou Sondae se Toppers en geel rys was grend. Ma het rosyntjies by die geel rys ingegooi.
@BOG: Ons verskans darem so 80% van ons maandelikse invoerboek, het al genoeg skoolfooie betaal. Maar jy’s reg, die tendens is vir die afgelope paar jaar afwaarts teen ‘n snelle pas. Binnekort eet almal Toppers
@KoosRoos. Soos jy seker@Ploegskaar gesien het het die Stellies vasgeval met sy 0/19A span. 6-15. Uiters swak hantering tesame met puik verdediging het Hugenote laat seëvier. Geen verskonings. Saterdag is ñ belangrike wedstryd teen die Tiere. Die Stellies kon laas in 2008 op sy tuisveld teen die Tiere wen.
@McCulleys Workshop: Die bar boet.
@Djou: En jy ‘n Vicks chappie vir 1c kon koop. Niks kon borrels blaas soos ‘n Vicks chappie nie.
@Tjoppa: Also, where was the last one?
@McCulleys Workshop: But why only now the sudden outburst? What exactly do you want to say or achieve. Wil niemand vanaand met jou kak praat by die huis nie. Get in your car and drive to a MacDonald’s and insist they give you the proper respect and attention please not a bar. Guaranteed you will be bliksemed there also.
@Tjoppa: And as you can see, I’m not a GW supporter, but rather a SBR supporter.
@Tjoppa: you can’t take it Tjoppa, but that’s the fact.
@Bog: @Tjoppa: Die prys van onder meer “social engineering” op die verkeerde manier. Laat my bietjie terugverlang na die vroee 1980’s toe ‘n $ nog 84c was, die pond = R1.50 en die musiek uit die boonste rakke.
@McCulleys Workshop: In Afrikaans we would cal you SUURGAT and I will leave you with that thought. Sorry Poepol also suddenly popped in my head.
@GreenBlooded: So here it is: I watched Affies play GW last year, AND – chokeholds and elbows being clapped and fist pumped by the Diesel Mecs (that’s a diesel Mac, from Pretoria), who cover as assistant coaches and run onto the field to check the oil, water and fuel levels of their team, a GW player being rucked on the head, further fist pumping and high fiving by the Diesel Mec’s sitting in front of me. At the end of the game they were jubilant, but I could help having a discussion with them, and their biceps, about their attitude towards the sport. Very happy to win at any cost.
@Djou: Nee wat gehoor laas week die manne in al die groot kompetiesies beplan ook ‘n kwota sisteem. Hulle besef hoe meer imports hoe beter die spel maar terselder tyd minder geleenthede vir hul eie spelers met ‘n swakker nasionale span tot gevolg. Veral Brittanje het reeds hiermee begin en lyk vir my dit gaan ook oor die kanaal spoel. Dit die rede hoekom ons tans so groot aanslag op die jonger manne kan verwag wat nie reeds internasionale rugby gespeel het nie en kan burgerskap op ‘n vroee ouderdom bekom.
@Djou: Die val vd Rand gaan almal raak. Dws, nie net kleinboet wat groener weivelde ( of is dit speelvelde) gaan soek nie, maar ma en pa gaan saam.(en ouma, sussie en bababoetie) Maar die wisselkoers is slegs aantreklik vir die spelers wie beplan om terug te keer.
@Bog: Wow, jy is ver voor ons almal met jou denke. Het nog nooit so daaraan gedink nie.
@Rooikat: Hoe lyk dit Rooikat, dalk kan jy medieseskema-bedrog oplos?
@Tjoppa: Werfhoenders is deesdae die inding! Maar Bog spreek ‘n waar woord oor die impak van die R/$ om ons spelers te behou!!!!!
@Beet: Don’t you think we need a story on the impact of the exchange rate on school boys’ choices to play here or abroad.
@Ploegskaar Sien jy plaas die Hugenote tellings, het jy na een van hulle wedstryde gaan kyk? Ek het teen Worcester Gim gaan kyk en was verbaas oor die goeie kwaliteit en styl waarmee hulle speel. Agterlyn hardloop reguit en laai die bal af in die kontak, goeie interspel tussen voor en agterspelers ens, die afrigters doen goed met die talent tot hul beskikking. Met al die Paarl skole sal Hugenote nie altyd die goeie spelers kan behou nie. Koegelenberg het laasjaar wel uit die skool SA skole gespeel, verbaas dat hy nooit deur die ander Paarl skole getrek was nie, iemand het vir my gese hy was in Boland is dit waar?
@Rugbyliefhebber: Hoe het jul stryd teen een van die groot kanonne toe gegaan?
@Djou: n Onlangse ondersoek deur die mediese skemas in SA, het masiewe bedrog van meer as R22 Bilj. deur die mediese diensverskaffers aan die lig gebring deur vals eise, o.a van n paar wie in een enkele dag, pasiente ondersoek het in Kaapstad, Durban en Pretoria. Dan kan Rooikat maar seker kommentaar lewer oor wydverspreide wedstryde?@Ploegskaar: Jy beter jou oe hou op die Rand vir jou hoenderinvoere. Hierdie verswakking is net die begin van wat kom! (Net terloops) Kan jy dink hoe aantreklik daardie aanbiedinge uit die NH gaan wees vir ons spelers wanneer die Rand / Dollar, 20/1 is. Al wie ons sal oorhou in SA is die baie jong en baie ou spelers.( En ou hoenders wat vir 4 ure gebak moet word)
@McCulleys Workshop: Fantastic to hear – long may it continue. I have made the same observations at times.
@Greenwood: When I saw the game on TV last night I was horrified to see how empty the stands were? Where was everyone – it was Old Boys Day? A very poor turnout.
@Djou: Het hulle toe rugby gespeel. Of het al jou kennis maar met die TV opgedoen. Die Vrystaat nou nie die suksesvolste span in RSA nie.
@Ploegskaar: My skool speel nie meer rugby nie – nou net sokker
. ‘n Bolandtrui lyk nie te onaardig nie, maar ek sal dit self nie wil dra nie.
@Ploegskaar: Het julle hom op Alfons ingelyf. Wat is die tradisie agter Alfons?
Stellenberg vs Hugenote:
U14a S’Berg 20 Hugenote 10
U15a S’Berg 7 Hugenote 3
U16a S’Berg 8 Hugenote 10
U19a S’Berg 6 Hugenote 15
S’Berg u14 still unbeaten season to date, well done boys.
@Djou: Nee kak man, hierdie is ‘n skole site, genoeg neutrale, onbetrokke, half-verwante en skaam-familie truie soos dit is! Wat van ‘n Boland trui, hy het dan gister so mooi die elemente trotseer om oppie Plaas te gaan kyk? Te min luide Boere hier in elk geval.
@Grasshopper: Or maybe the supporters knew the result and supporting a loosing team is half the fun.
@Rooikat: Niks om te vergewe nie. Vra vir Beet om vir jou ‘n trui aan te trek. Dit is eintlik al wat ek bedoel het. Hier is te min Cheetahs op die blog.
@star: Sun, ? and Star, what pleased me the most about yesterday’s games at Westville, in particular being an Old Boys day, was the concept of fair play and a complete lack of off the ball play, something that was an obvious issue under the previous coaching regime. I spoke to Dieter Kriesse a few years back and told him that from my observations, it seemed that Westville was being coached to play borderline dirty, and at times they dished up heaps of off the ball antics (including some issues target at the supporters). I lived in Westville for many years and had kids go through the junior schools, and so ended up watching many Westville games. Yesterday was conducted fantastically by supporters and players and it seems to me that a change has taken place?
@Djou Jy is reg ek vra om verskoning van nou af moet almal slegs iets se oor ‘n wedstryd wat hulle dit self bygewoon en geen afleiding maak op grond van die telling nie, weereens jammer. Hoop jy kan my vergewe!
@Rooikat. Jy moet regtig vinnig kan hardloop om al die wedstryde waaroor jy so alwetende kommentaar lewer te kon sien. Eers in die nat Kaap, toe in Pretoria en dan Oos-Kaap toe. Wow, en als binne ‘n paar uur. Jy moet ‘n Cheetah vir ‘n avatar kry!
@Tierklou: Dankie!!
@BuffelsCM: Ons o15A het ook gewen, maar ek is nie seker van die o16A nie. Die o14A het verloor en ook die o19B.
@Greenwood: There were not big crowds because Monnas is not a traditional derby, they are new opponents and only 12 games played on the day. Glenwood should really only have a traditional opponent on Old Boys day, like last year. The Glenwood locks were just too light in my opinion, both 2nd team players brought up due to injury. They should have played Potgieter at lock to add bulk to the tight 5. Seth Van der Heever and Jaco Coetzee were sorely missed. Coetzee could have nullified the good Monnas No 8, but the team in young and will learn from this. Great win for the Under14A’s and two close losses in the Under15A and Under16A….good future there..http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/sites/default/files/vs%20Monument.pdf
IMO Glenwood outmuscled by a very classy Monas team – an intercept try by Monas with 10 Mins to go was the difference
Bit of concern here with Corne Vermaak being injured and helped off with 7 minutes to go – really hope this is not serious
was disappointing that there were not more GWD old boys there – but well done to Monas
and to Gwd putting up fight against much bigger opponents
@ Star, I fully agree with your comments. Credit must be given to the 2nd team ref, I think he handled the game very well and was very consistent.
@star: I know a few of the Westville boys opted not to go to trial, Weir being on of them. House first try seemed to be a fumble or forward pass, hard to see from where i was, a house parent who was in line said def forward. ref was good for the rest.
@GimOB: luckily it did not rain during the game so it was just cold
@QC86: @Stormberg Mountains: The boys were 28-5 down at halftime, they came back to within 8 points with about 10 minutes to go, the score was 28-20 and I believed that there might well be hope. They subsequently let in 2 more tries. Encouraging signs in a side that has improved a great deal this year.
@McCulleys Workshop: @Griffon: Thanks for the feedback on the refs – appreciated. Both stepped up a notch – it was their first match at that level yesterday so glad to hear they did reasonably well. Good blokes both of them.
@star: The College okes are too proud to make excuses and credit to them for not doing so but I think the Hilton result does need to be seen in context – that being half of the first team waking up yesterday morning in the Boarding House to a wild virus that lay them low. Some boys bravely taking the field only to come off 30 mins later retching their lungs out. Having to piece together a 1st XV on Saturday moring couldn’t have been an appertising prospect. Still hearing stories today of boys laid up at home with high temperatures and vomiting. But yes – the score is the score, no comments on the scoreboard and all of that. I do think there needs to be some context int he analysis of the match though……
i think these under 16s when they are in grade 12, the first team should comprise of the grade 11 team, at least if the lose they can build up for their grade 12 year, things do look bleak though
@Stormberg Mountains: Queens u16’s lost 40 20,i know they lost but not sure of the exact score.Grey u13,s lost to Dale u13,s by 30 odd
@Tierklou: Hallo Tierklou, ek het gedink julle manne sou dit kon deurtrek. Klink my dit was amper of julle het. Enige idee hoe julle ander spanne gevaar het ?
Yesterday was very frustrating. Westville U16s had new half back and center pairings which meant early defensive frailties which Pretorius was able to exploit.Once they got into their stride they were the better team only to give away a silly penalty at the death which House converted for the victory. The 2nds lost for the 1ST time against a 2nd team since the GW result last year.The big House prop who had been dropped was immense and wanted to prove a point which he duly did.House fully deserved this victory. The 1sts should have put the game away on numerous occasions. At least 5 clear try scoring opportunities were squandered .I overheard Schoeman telling his team mates that the next player to miss a tackle would be taken off. Such was the manner that Westville were cutting through the House defense only to butcher the final off load . House had 2 attacking scrums from errors from the Westville full back and converted both. I agree with McCulley’s Workshop re the Westville No 8( Weir). He is big and explosive and had some telling runs. The team missed his presence when he left the field. Surprizing that he did not make the final trials and more question marks are raised
.Ellse also had a trade mark game and never seems to disappoint. I am very happy with the Hilton result which I called a while back. That Hilton team is very competent and at home not to be under estimated.
Ludz, Queenian, QC86, Rugbyfan or anyone, do you have the fuller results of the Derby between Queens College and St Andrews College. Feel like seeing how we played all round as a school
Tiere het voorgeloop 90% van die wedstryd. Drostdy druk in doodsnikke om gelykop te maak. Toestande was soos in die res van die Kaap baie koud en nat. Ons moes die een gewen het – welgedaan aan Tiere en Drostdy vir ‘n harde skoon wedstryd.
@GreenBlooded: @Griffon: I didn’t see the U16 game. I thought the 1st ref was reasonable, but inconsistent, particularly around rucks. Should have been a few more penalties. That being said no calls (or lack of them) prejudiced the game.
Glenwood vs Monnas:
Good advertisement for SBR, contrasting styles but both effective. Monnas 8 and GW 15 were outstanding. Kudos to the ref, not for how he handled the match, but for blowing like a typical HT ref although the match was televised! LMFAO!
@Koos Roos: Goeie wen en met so min gr. 11’s in die eerstes lyk dit goed vir volgende jaar. Veral bly vir die o14’s, hul seisoen was taai sover. Puik wenne vir PRG 1stes en o16’s, ek rate beide ‘Bosch spanne.
@CapeMan: What was the score when they walked?
@CapeMan: Why do we have to live in a community that is racist. As the previous goverment was the main reason for hate between the races so is the current regime. Do not agree with what happened but we must ask us why this is happening? And then only act to solve the problem.
@Rooikat: Goed opgesom, maar dink hulle was lus vir jol, soos wat van die plettervatte gewys het. Abrahams was skoon stilgeduik in die 2de helfte. Hoekom nie kom hallo se nie, kon beslis nie my geraas en rondbons onder die klubhuis afdak mis nie….
@ Greenblooded : RE the refs for the Westville/House 1st and 16A games, I think the 1st team ref was fair, and made little mistakes, but the 16A ref missed a few clinical calls, one being playing the ball on the ground from a House player when Westville were on their 5m line. Even a few House supporters saw it from the other side of the field. I do think Westville played well, but the first two trys conceded in first 5 minutes, didn’t help their cause. Very entertaining game, the Pretorious boy is top class, scoring all his teams points. I do think the Westville forwards were very dominant, evening pushing House off 3/4 of their own scrums. So the unpredictable u16 season continue§
@NW_Knight: Thanks. Fixed
@Ploegskaar: Well done Ploeg. Veral met jul o16’s. Hulle gaan net beter word matriek toe.
@Beet: NW – SCC result is the other way around.
Paarl skole en PRG het vandag onder die omstandighede waar die weer die gelykmaker is goed gedoen teen die Kaapse skole, veral Gim het verbasende hoe telling aangeteken en dit nog sonder hul twee ster nasionale spelers. Dit is gewoonlik op die modder velde wanneer die Kaapse skole die verrasings oplewer.
Garsfontein moet verder wen teen die swakker opponente om hul plek in die top 10 te regverdig.
Marlow is ook goed aan die gang die laaste paar weke Framesby op hul tuisveld is altyd moeilik.
@BoishaaiPa: stem absoluut saam. Was al in London en Parys en beide is vuil. Pragtig uit ‘n historiese oogpunt, maar dit is so vêr soos wat dit gaan.
@Ploegskaar Boland het in die tweede helfte alles gedomineer maar die vekeerde taktiek gevolg deur te poog om in die modderbad met die agterlyn te speel. Die voorspelers het die bal goed gedra en die bal moes daar gebly het. Ek dink nie Biskoppe was in die 2de helfte ooit uit hul eie helfte nie.
@BOG: so jy reken London, Parys ens se lug is skoner?…wereldstede se gat man..ek was in hulle almal en ek verkies dan maar eerder my kusdorpie..
@Gungets Tuft: Considering you Superbru performance lately – maybe you should start making those predictions. Sometimes I think you might have one of those Sports Almanac things from Back to the Future locked up in your safe.
Oh – and worst case scenario, Goodson is at the very least the second best No 8 in KZN this year. The best – well maybe I saw him today against very weak opposition. I’ll tell you this time next week.
@McCulleys Workshop: Glenwood lost fair and square to a better and bigger Monnas side, although we did miss Seth Van der Heever and Jaco Coetzee big time. Vidima getting yellow carded didn’t help either. Westville should have won by a bigger margin but MHS got good self confidence from last weeks big win, Kearsney raped DHS by more than 50 and College obviously didn’t pitch after last weeks massive effort, also we key losses. Hilton obviously wanted it more at home. Not sure about St Charles. The unpredictability of school boy rugby is why we love it!
@McCulleys Workshop: Not going to get involved in a pecking party, just not happy that the College match today get used to support a dodgy discussion. I don’t do predictions, except in Superbru where I don’t get called out by ticked off opposition supporters for my calls. Do I think second team players should make CW sides, hmmmm. Need to convince me that a 4th choice loosie is better than a first choice at a premier school, you need to get help from Dale Carnegie. Truth, I think selectors take the easy path. I will start with my hobby horse, Mr Goodsen. He might not be a better #8 than the others, but (my opinion) could he be a better #6 than another schools 4th choice, for sure. Selectors and coaches are hiding something if they say that someone like DG has been left out because he is a specialist #8. If they cannot retread a great #8 as an open sider then we need new coaches. There, I said it. I don’t like mindless cheerleading, so I have tried my dodgy reasoning.
Would like to know from those who were there: an objective assesment of the ref for the Michaelhouse / Westville 1st aned U16A matches? Two guys who took the step up today – just wondering how they did?
@McCulleys Workshop: Jeez – why is my name being used in vain here? I made some predictions – so shoot me. My Superbru predictions were a little better.
@GreenBlooded:
Wow
@Pedantic:
Glenwood 14A won 20-18. 15A lost 20-15
@HORSEFLY NO.1: I think you are clutching at straws mate and in doing so you are missing the big picture. The DHS vs Kearsney game today was like clubbing baby seals. It was over as a contest in the first 10 minutes – to be honest I lost interest in the game after that and had to be contented with Pedantic’s company and warm beers. In fact, I’d say today officially marks the day that DHS are relegated to Tier 2 status.
What is even more shocking is that I hear Kearsney had to find themselves filler fixtures for today – i.e. a school of 500 odd boys can put out more rugby teams than a proud almost 150 year old rugby school. I wonder sometimes if this can be turned around or if it is beyond the point of no return?
My advice? Galvanise your old boys into action – sort out this bullshit – whatever it is. I think if the situation at DHS goes any further south you can send their proud record to a museum somewhere for safekeeping.
@Gungets Tuft: no, my point is even clearer, how do you justify second team players in a CW side on the basis that your 2nd team would beat most schools 1st teams? On the day, you never know how things are going to pan out, sick, red carded etc. GW 2nds pulled a draw out of the bag against MC, GW firsts lost to KC, narrowly beat a 14 man MC and so the saga continues. Using dreamed up prediction skills is an interesting sport, but meaningless.
@Pedantic:
I do not brush aside these games. And I didn’t say DHS were far superior. I said the U14A are better than 2 points that they won by and that 15A are obviously better than Kearsney.
I felt that the DHS 14A did have a very average game today. Guys like Greenblooded and some of the Westville supporters know how good they are . Today they didn’t show that.
15A I did feel was better. They played a good attacking game but againthe defence was very average for them and I think 2 of the Kearsney tries came from the average defensive performance.
KZN Results that I managed to find:
Kearsney vs DHS
U14A 22 – 24
U15A 19 – 22
U16A 22 – 3
2nd XV 52 – 7
1st XV 74 – 6
Glenwood vs Monument
U16A 17 -19
1st XV 20 – 26
Westville vs Michaelhouse
U14A 55 – 0
U15A 41 – 12
U16A 13 – 15
1st XV 21 – 17
Hilton vs M.College
U16A 18 – 21
2nd XV 14 – 15
1st XV 38 – 22
@McCulleys Workshop: 7 players missing, and they only pulled out this morning waking up sick. “That’s sport” not quite describing it. No excuses, the scores will be in the yearbook, but the influence on your current argument is huge. College leaked 2 tries in the first 4 minutes just trying to figure out the defensive structures.
Lets just make this crystal clear, this comment is not about the College defeat, just the way you are using it to support your argument. Please never let it be said that College boys make excuses for a loss.
@Grasshopper: by the way, these were his predictions for today:
Glenwood by 4 (Old Boys Day vibe to carry them)
Westville by 20
College by 20
Kearsney by 50
St Charles by 10
Now that that’s over :D how’s some opinions on the 2 No.10’s. Today I know its hard to compare with the score line but there has to be something
Must say Teder’s kicks for poles are spot on!!
Listen, being a ref doesn’t qualify him for any additional qudos in my book. Ask him his SB success rate! The bottom line is that College got given points properly today, yes players missing, but that’s sport.
@McCulleys Workshop: Greenblooded is a ref and knows what he is talking about. Hilton at Hilton is a completely different proposition. I reckon the Glenwood 2nds would run them close at Glenwood but would lose at Hilton. Us souties don’t do we’ll up in the wet, cold and misty Gilfillan dug out….
Watched the Westville MHS games today, first time I’ve seen Westville this season. Only Schoeman stood out for MHS. Westville missed a number of chances and looked on the brink of opening the flood gates, but it was not to be. Westville no 6 and 8 had good games and no 12 had a very good game and looked very talented talented. Surprised he didn’t make CW. All in all, I can’t say we have exceptional teams in KZN this season.
What were the A team scores for College v Hilton?
Greenblood, so I suppose Glenwood 2nd’s would still beat Hilton 1st’s by 5?
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Answer to your 1 question – yes Kurt played well under the circumstances – I have been a big fan of his for the last few years but still cannot comprehend how you can compare performances in the 1st team game today.
What concerns me wrt your opinion is that you are discussing the top 2 #10’s in KZN but in the same breath mention how good another U16 #10 is when I felt he had a poor game as a flyhalf … yes, he had some good runs and was flashy with go-forward ball, but if he had done the job of a good #10 and distributed properly, I think KC U16 could have easily scored another 3 or 4 tries – so I’m not so sure you understand the role of a good #10 and as a result can’t take your comments / opinions seriously.
The way you brush aside the close U14 and U15 results and suggest that DHS were far superior illustrates your subjective opinion – Both U14 & U15A games could have gone either way.
@kcob:
14A game wasn’t too great. As said before,kearsney #8 was very,very good and the #10 is a big boy, played some good rugby. Two of the DHS tries were waaaaaay too easy. Both scored by the same boy who went untouched on both occasions.
15A game was a cracker! Relieved to see DHS winning that one.
@Pedantic:
Ok let me ask you one question. Did Webster not play well even in that 70 point defecit ?
Also, with your #10, I can’t comment on whether he had a weak game because I haven’t seen him play before. But I felt he was good today. Had a couple of good runs too.
Nothing confusing.
@School
Thank you. Tedder is a very good player as I’ve said time and time again but I do wonder how much more and what exactly. Must Webster do to get that #10 jersey. Kearsney people obviously see this as an attack?? DHS had some ball today especiallly in the 1st half and I felt Webster played well. Defended well too and covered Tedder when he had broken through.
Pedantic finding it hard to take me seriously? Tough.
@Pedantic: Must say I find it hard to believe that a team that takes a 70 point deficit and does not score a single try can claim superiority in any position. At best, sorry to say, the best description is that they had the “pluckiest player”. The score line implies that DHS saw no ball, and didn’t use what they did get, or there would be score to show for it.
Does anyone have a result from NW vs St Charles?
Sorry meant “couldn’t” … damn iPhone!
@pedantic could see u14a, u15a games but heard they were crackers? In u14 lowers teams saw three stretchers! Hope those boys are ok? Any news?
Seriously! What game were you blokes watching. Serious differing of opinion right there. Thing is, I like them both, it’s the jostling for no 1 which smacks of HF1 immaturity is what erks me. He’s a kid with a loud opinion but often directed and kids he names. Rule 1 in a blog, stay away from pulling one down to lift another, something the immature HF1 always gets wrong. Irritates me, that’s all! Done!
@HORSEFLY NO.1: I’m actually finding it hard to take you seriously – your opinions are very very subjective.
How you can compare flyhalves in a game where there is a 70 point deficit is beyond comprehension. You then in another post mention the KC U16 #10 who is a good player but who had a weak game today which probably accounted for the close result.
Must say … confused by your comments!
@kcob: Come on boet friendly banter but no need to get nasty ey. Agree or disagree and raise valid points or you may well be the lytie.
@horselfly NO.1 I asked the same questions you’re asking and agree with you fully. On this day even behind a losing pack Webster showed more class, doesn’t mean to say Teder sucks or isn’t talented he’s flippen good,its just an opinion gents.
College vs Hilton, Hilton win the firsts by 38-22. No excuses, Hilton did what they had to do, College short a few regulars due to a virus outbreak at the BE overnight. The replacements did what a kid in Red, Black and White would do and played their guys out. 10 points in the last 5 minutes took it out of reach. U16A College won 21-18, seconds won 15-14
Wright was king of the park, his tactical kicking massive and accurate. Beet was there making copious notes, rely on the independent report rather than mine.
@Henkies:
Yes 74-6. The type of game Kearsney played never allowed for a low scoring game. They played a running game which you either join or get smashed it. And DHS didn’t join that type of game and so got smashed by a team also much better. Well done to them on that. Also a mention to the DHS #6 and #10. Very good games for them
I watched all the A team games.
14A- I honestly think that DHS were just going through the motions in this game. They are more than 2 points better than this Kearsney team but Kearsney have a very,very good #8 in their side. He is a handful and I think scored all of KC tries.
15A- well done School! Was important for them to win this one and well done to them. Thhey have quite a few players out injured and that showed on a few occasions with one or two of the B team players obviously out of place but the team played very well on attack. Obviously better than KC. 1st time this season I’ve seen them play so well because all season they’ve beenn abit flat. A mentiion to the #15 who’s just a class act!
16A-interesting game this. Kearsney are good but not much of team in their play. Their #10 is awesome though. DHS obviously need some reinforcements here . Welldone to the dhs #2
@HORSEFLY NO.1: because its what’s adults do! Put kids straight when they are blinded by their own immaturity! Webster and Tedder are both super talented! Do be sore about today! Webster played well and so did Tedder and so did others. Don’t pic a fight just because. Grow up.
@GimOB: I have personally been there when acts like these have happened. It appeared as if no action was taken then. Let us hope something will be done if the allegations are true today.
@Maroon: Because the boys stood in solidarity and showed support to their friend and to their own values. How would you have acted if a friend and team mate of yours was racially abused??would you just ignore and continue to play against those same players who made an attack on your mate?? The game was spoiled…How can you have fun if a huge incident like that has happened?
@kcob:
I cannot see how I am a kid when you are the one who’s replied to my message like this. Anyone else would reply adequately or not at all.
I really don’t care what you think of me.
Horse fly1 don’t be an ass hole! Webster is good, but so is Tedder! Take your little boys pants off and put your big boy pants on and think bigger than your mate! There’s a bigger picture for them both!
@HORSEFLY NO.1: cause you’re a 14 year old kid and can’t tell your area from your elbow!!!
@TheGoose:
I have for the whole week been looking forward to the battle of the #10s and have expressed this here.
I’ve heard many bloggers and other people tell me that although Webster is good, Tedder deserves KZN #10. I was quiet.
But today, Webster showed his class. Something which you have to understand is incredibly hard to do losing 41-0 at HT.
He did just about everything better than Tedder and after hearing rumours that Webster got the #20 jersey and Tedder #10, I honestly can’t see the thinking behind this.
It gets me thinking that Tedder was always going to get the jersey no matter what!
@Westers: Confirmed: Glenwood played catch-up rugby.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Hey Horsey. What happened today for you to have that view. Its obviously a whole lot more than the result itself.
We know that Webster is talented, but so is Tedder. Remember he is coming back from his heart issue at the Saints game. As for the CW – both will get to run in the 10 jersey, so we’ll see who shines there.
@CapeMan: i never condoned the racist remark and believes that racism has no place in sport, or anywhere else. I was just doubting whether walking off the field was the best course of action. There was 28 other boys who was not involved.
@CapeMan: Racist remarks are and will not be tolerated by Gim supporters and school management! If what you are saying is found to be true, I can assure you that the school will act in the strongest way. It is unfair to say ‘…..how long will schools like Paarl Gim continue to let things like this go unpunished….’. You have no proof that Gim has not or will not act on incidents of this nature. Let’s wait till the allegation is investigated and then judge the school.
I heard Glenwood lost 20 – 26 to Monnas. Can anyone confirm that?
@Maroon: why should the boys play against some players who are racist??These boys do not deserve to play the sport and the Wynberg boys did absolutely the right thing. If you cannot respect your opponent, YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO PLAY.
I’m sorry but after today I cannot at all see how Tedder is better than Webster. I literally can’t.
@CapeMan: sad GsPFnT. As you have stated, the school has no control over individual boys’ action on the field, but must show their calibre in how they respond to this. I am not sure if walking off the field is the correct action. In life you have to tackle adversity head on. Turning your back, hardly ever resolves the situation. The coaches should have stepped in to let the game continue.
Ive come to hear some very disturbing news. One of the Wynberg boys u16 rugby sides marched off the field this morning after Paarl Gim players racially abused a black player. The sad thing is, this isnt the first time nor the last time we hear of this. Ive seen it plenty of times happen when the southern suburb boy schools play against some of the afrikaans schools in the WC. In my day, we let our anger get the better of us and we fought back. Which I cant certainly say was wrong or not, but I have to commend these Wynberg Boys lads for saying ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and walking off the field. This shows that the boys value their friends and what their parents and school has taught them. Well done WYNBERG BOYS HIGH. The question is how long will schools like Paarl Gim continue to let things like this go unpunished or should I say not severely punished. I get the feeling that they let these kind of things slide. I am not attacking the school entirely as sometimes as a school you have no control over what a boy will do but this is not the first incident I have experienced or heard about when playing Paarl Gim. But then again, why isnt the school punishing these boys that are saying these disgusting racial phrases hard enough if at all??? The other question that has to be asked is why hasnt the WP Rugby Union done anything about this?? This has been happening for years and I have never heard of the WP Rugby Union doing anything. Shows just how much they care. As schooling institutions, Rugby Unions and Old boys, we need to impose punishments for those boys who decide to say such disgusting things. As I said, we know that sometimes, some boys are just taught the wrong values which the school had nothing to do with but at the same time if you allow these few boys to say these disgusting words and only get a slap on the wrist or no punishment at all, then the school and the union is just as guilty as those few boys. Well done to those Wynberg Boys and I definitely know that the principal of Wynberg, Mr Keith Richardson, will follow up on this. Very sad indeed.
Rugby
Selborne College 1st Rugby XV beat Port Rex 1st XV (50-7)
Selborne College 2nd Rugby XV beat Port Rex 2nd XV (81-0)
Selborne College 3rd Rugby XV beat Port Rex 3rd XV (82-0)
Selborne College 5th Rugby XV beat Port Rex 4th XV (64-0)
Selborne College 7th Rugby XV beat Port Rex 5th XV (41-5)
Selborne College U16 B Rugby XV beat Port Rex U16 A XV (80-0)
Selborne College U16 C Rugby XV beat Port Rex U16 B XV (26-0)
Selborne College U16 D Rugby XV beat Port Rex U16 C XV (46-0)
Selborne College U15 B Rugby XV beat Port Rex U15 A XV (29-0)
Selborne College U15 C Rugby XV beat Port Rex U15 B XV (27-7)
Selborne College U15 D Rugby XV beat Port Rex U15 C XV (64-0)
Played: 11, Won: 11
Hockey
Selborne College 1st Hockey XI beat Port Rex 1st XI (19-0)
Selborne College 3rd Hockey XI beat Port Rex 2nd XI (6-0)
Selborne College U16 A Hockey XI beat Port Rex U16 A XI (9-0)
Selborne College U14 A Hockey XI beat Port Rex U14 A XI (14-0)
Played: 4 and Won: 4
really disappointed with NW u16a i mean to give the schools best team to a coach like Mark Krause is beyond my believe i think its time northwood concentrated less on buying players nd more on experienced coaches a team which was in the top 5 in kzn last year to barely in the top 10 this year is shocking wouldnt b suprised if we lose half of them and have another terrible first team next year
Pretty chuffed with Queen’s today, they played well. Kept the errors to a minimum, a wonderful confidence was evident today.
Queens 30 St Andrews 19
76-6 Horsey. Shucks! You didn’t make a typo there perhaps? A dark day for us. At least our 14’s and u15s won. It will be good to get out of this nightmare in a few years time hopefully.
Scores Boland vs Bishops:
U14a Boland 46 Bishops 6
U15a Boland 15 Bishops 5
U16a Boland 16 Bishops 6
U19a Boland 10 Bishops 0
16A Kearsney won 22-3
1st Kearsney won 74-6
Final Score 21 -17 to Westville. MHS came back in 2nd half…..credit to them. Westville missed too many kicks as well. Well done though boys… next up is College… :-)
WBHS leading 21-10
what was the u16A DHS vs KS ??
Anybody ??
@QC86: Eish!
Hey, got some chops and biltong at Mabovula last weekend.But you weren’t around.
Dale 3 Grey 38
@GimOB: Die Plaas was een groot modderplas vandag, maar die seuns was kookwater. Wil nie weet hoe Alfons moes lyk nie, het maar saam met vroulief onder die klubhuis se afdak geskuil!
@Ploegskaar: dankie.
@Stormberg Mountains: Geez!Whats wrong with me today???
Mate i think you forget that we have already played Grey, we played them in their Reunion last month and lost 20-13, after having a two year streak vs The Grey. In all honesty Grey were the smarter side in a game evenly poised.
Half time 18 – 3 to WBHS !
@Ploegskaar: Die Plaas se velde is vandag seker lekker ‘ingespeel’ om dit nog moeiliker te maak vir toekomstige besoekers? Ons velde (behalwe hoofveld) lyk maar gehawend na vandag.
@Oom Kaspaas: 29-5 vir HJS
@Stormberg Mountains: Well done Queens! Seems like Grey are the top EC side thus far.The QC-Grey and Selborne-Grey matches will be very interesting.Only a brave man would take bets on those games
15-0 to westville at mo – 3 missed conversions doh
QUEENS COLLEGE 30 vs ST ANDREWS COLLEGE 19 FULL TIME
HJS vs SACS telling?
Westville 2 tries so far……. :-)
@GimOB: Wynlande 4 Stad 0, hou daarvan.
Wow! Grey has been ruthless in the past weeks
@Maroon: Beslis, en ‘n wen is ‘n wen. Julle speel goed weg teen die Soute hierdie jaar! Ons bank ‘n 10-0 soos ‘n 5-0, hy’s in die boek. BTW Tygerberg 27-Drostdy 27, Stellenberg 6 Hugenote 15.
Paarl Gim beat Wynberg 40-3 in soaking weather
@Stormberg Mountains: OK, let me accept this now.Grey has run away with this game.
DALE COLLEGE 0 vs GREY HIGH SCHOOL (PE) 24 Half-time.
QUEENS COLLEGE 30 vs ST ANDREWS COLLEGE 19 2nd Half
@Stormberg Mountains: Eish!Camaaaaan boys, it’s still early days.
Good going QC!
5 minutes left in 1st Half. Dale College 0 – 17 Grey High
Selborne College 48 Port Rex 7. Full Time
DALE COLLEGE 0 vs GREY HIGH SCHOOL (PE) 12 after 9 min. Try scored for Grey PE
ST ANDREWS COLLEGE 5 vs QUEENS COLLEGE 16 Half-time
@Mike: Eish! My min’d’s still in 2012
…yeah you’re right
@Playa: Dale beat Grey last in 2011 at Dale.
@Ploegskaar: Dink ook die eerstespan het goed gedoen teen die span wat jy so hoog aanskryf.
@Stormberg Mountains: Dale only beat Grey in 2010 after that 1999 victory. The Pyjama boys have been having a great run against us in recent years. We had our best chance to beat them away last year…it would have been the first away win since 1994!!!
@Vleis: Quite a turnaround given that St Alban’s 1sts beat Jeppe last year.
@Maroon: Koud, nat en triestig, maar die wenne het die ry die moeite werd gemaak. Great wen vir julle o16 manne!
Jeppe 1sts beat St Alban’s 1sts by 88 to 0!!
It was one of those games where everything that could go wrong did for St Alban’s, but well done to Jeppe for producing a magnificent performance. Jeppe had too much pace and their back-line was in 5th gear from the 1st minute. Ran us ragged…and then some more. I’m sure that the boys will regroup come back strong v Boys High next week.
The u15A put up a very good performance to lose by 25 to 10 away at Jeppe, considering that St Alban’s u15 were missing four players due to injury and given that Jeppe is ranked at 7 in the country.
@Maroon: Thanks mate and to Paul Roos on their win today against Bosch !@Playa: Turns out you were right, final score 2nds, Grey win 48-5. Now for the main game..
Just had a glance at the scores for Dale vs Grey High. Dale should have more wins than 1 win since 1999, which is home and away. Should be a good game though, Dale must play without fear
@Ploegskaar: lekker Ploegskaar. Keurders sit seker agteroor voor die kaggel vandag. Dink hulle was heel jaar weg van die wedstryde af.
Bellville vs HTS Bellville
O19a Bellville 39 HTS 3
O16a Bellville 69 HTS 0
O15a Bellville 29 HTS 3
O14a Bellville 27 HTS 0
O16 Boland 16 Biskoppe 6
J.P., JMSP
Boland 10 Biskoppe 0
@Mike: Yeah,but Dale 2nds are useless (I hope none of the boys blog).
They were humiliated by Selborne, and woke up late to lose against a very ordinary Kingswood 2nd XV. Grey should stroll through that one.
@Tarpeys: Bader definitely is a special player and touted to go very far.Michaelhouse is lucky to have such a talented yet grounded kid
@Mike: Well done to our friend in PE!
@Playa: I reckon the open results will be much closer, they always are in King Williams Town. I always get very nervous before 1st XV games there.
@Umtata: AWESOME!!! Those boys having been coming close to victory over the bigger teams. Great that they got one over the pansies!!!
@Kingcharles: Also late to the ruck but if anyone insunuated anything race related it is you.Your misconception is simple…the Border schools may not be as big as they used to be,but their rugby is still as competitive as ever. Do some research and look at their results over the last 10 years.Your comments are tainting the good name of Grey High, and you should be ashamed.
@Mike: Oh boy!The slaughter has started
Grey must have a really good Under 16A side. I’m sure you guys will get 50 points on our 2nds…but Im still hopeful of an upset in the main game.
AMADODA!!!
@phat55: well that must send a big message to the WP selectors. Grey PE VS Dale scores. 14A grey win 78-0, 15A grey win 45-7 and 16A grey win 35-7.
@ Tarpeys
I beg to differ and will say that we will beat you and well today and expect a huge crown on old boys day with a lot of hungover boys from last nights debauchery reunon dinner lol. but yeah i see us winning and well. hope so.
paul roos vs rondesbosch u16a…….41-9 to PRG in soaking wet weather.6 tries to zero.im of the opinion that the score cudve been quite a bit uglier if it were dry weather.all the paul roos kids had awesome games,especially the front row!
Horsie, those are far closer than expected. Kearney must have played well….
DHS U15A won 22-19.
DHS U14A won 24-22. DHS U15A leading 15-5 at HT
DHS U14A leading 12-0 at HT. 2nd half just started
@Pedantic: Thanks mate. See you later – normal spot.
It doesn’t look like it’s live. SS1 @ 21:30
Help Help Help!!! I need to set my PVR for the Glenwood match – does anyone know what channel and what time?? Can’t find anything on the DSTV TV Guide.
Dale College 2 Grey High School 1 – hockey
@Tarpeys: Look after him. He might follow in Lambie’s footsteps. Good wrestler, judoka and golfer too. We do miss him. His dad, Werner, is a nice guy too.
http://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=377149349058176&id=100002893431993&from_feed=1&refid=8&_ft_=qid.5884141673366251948%3Amf_story_key.-8904836311979022366&_rdr#like_377149349058176
That’s us, Queenians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RScBd6BWJF0
A Preview of Glenwood vs Monnas and Old Boy’s Day.
@Stormberg Mountains: Proud for now and evermore!!!! You said it all sir.
@Mike: apologies if we took any hits at Grey, in my matric year I was hosted by last year’s headboy and 1st XV captain Lloyd Parker and it was an absolute pleasure, the Parker family was wonderful. I was talking to Lloyd the other day, he’s a really good boy. Best of luck to your boys too at the Graveyard
@BoishaaiPa: As jy in wereldstede soos Londen, NY en Parys gebly het, sal jy dink Slaapstad is n kusdorpie. Gewoond aan skoon lug? Dan bly jy in n bubble.@Queenian: Thats Lucky Strike and Gunston PLAIN, nogal, introduced to me at the first Gunston 500 on Nahoon Reef in the 70s. Thankfully I am free of that addiction.
Grey & Dale have met on 91 occasions since their 1st encounter back in 1918. Grey winning 44, Dale winning 37, with 10 matches drawn. Goodluck COLLEGE!!!
@sacssupporter: Thought maybe you were Shane’s dad! Is that guest house in Hout Bay and does your laaitie have a rooikop?
@Rooikat: Boland/Biskoppe behoort die mees gelykop stryd te wees, Bois en Gim behoort maklik te wen. Dan sien ons miskien daar, kyk vir die pa wat agter die kleinding met die pienk Wellies aanhardloop!
@Ploegskaar: A stressful surf shop owner? Never heard of that…..no I’m in car rental and my wife has a guest house…..both of us endure cold dark winters…
@Ploegskaar HA HA HA!! Sien al die Paarl skole is die naweek tuis, watter een van die wedstryde sal die kompeterendste wees? Alhoewel ek dink die Boland wedstryd sal die lekker soutie v boer atmosfeer oplewer. Dink ek sal daai een gaan kyk en tussen die Bishops mense gaan sit geniet altyd die ingelse se opmerkings!
@Queenian: No problem mate, none taken. Heres to a good weekend of rugby ! I hope your guys give the snoozles their second consecutive hiding this weekend.
Hi Beet. Just a smaal correction.
EG plays Jeugland and Kempton plays Anker.
I know these are small games compared to some other games happening around the country, but please correct this, as we do not want the Anker guys to think the big hiding is happening this week. That will only happen next week.
@beet: Any news on the Border craven week teams?
@BOG: Ek is gewoond aan skoon omgewing…dit het my net laat terugdink aan die gevoel van n plattelandse dorpie 30 jaar terug!…
@Koos Roos: Defnitief nie die verloor nie…
@BOG: Hey in my day it was still Gunston and Lucky Strike ye and i remember seen your name on the “Role of Honour” and that great reform insitution in Queenstown.
@Stormberg Mountains: All valid points there mate.
@Mike: No offence meant to you in anway maybe i was a bit over the top there, as i said i know Grey PE is a great school and i have all the respect for them in the world. King Charles comments were just a bit over the top and based on perception. And i do agree that Grey will be to strong for Dale on Saturday.
I know alot of Grey Old Boys and they are all Top Class individuals and the “pansie” thing is just a joke between us i know in my day we commonly new the Grey boys by that just as in my day they used to call us the “criminals’ as alot of people believed only kids who could not behave at home were shipped off to Queens.
So Mike hopefully you one of those great Grey individuals so no “offence” meant.
@BoishaaiPa: Jy mis die punt. Ek het gereageer op Chops se snert. Ek kan natuurlik verstaan waarom jy ongemaklik sal voel in n skoon omgewing. Jy is gewoond aan die Kaap met al sy plakkers en n aanhoudende en toenemende invloei uit die OK. En terloops, dan bly ek nie eers in die VS nie. Di ook te verstane dat jy n hele dag moes wag vir n vliegtuig. Gewoonlik neem dit nog langer om n vol vrag volunteers te kry wie bereid is om Kaap toe te vlieg.
@ Koos Roos; Bader is a special player. MHS are lucky to have him. I saw him single-handedly dismantling Glenwood in the driving rain. I reckon if it was not for the Boksmart rule, he would have been playing first team and their fortunes would’ve been different. It shows that he had solid grounding from you guys in the cape.
@Tarpeys: We were very sad when we lost our u15 captain last year to you guys. Saw Bader at Gym week. Your u 16 captain now. He is special. What we enjoyed, was when MHS and PRG stood tunnel for each other. Nice to see sportmanship is still alive.
Love rugby I mean.
@Stormberg Mountains: All I can say is that when we get the chance to play Dale it is clear they love the as much as us. Bloody hard to beat too.Starting to deliver senior players too. Eastern Cape needs that.
@Beet; That’s tough going according to those fixtures. I guess if you have an average side and it’s your traveling year, you could have quite a tough time of it like MHS have experienced this year.
@Djou: Het al oor die trui gevra. Geen antwoord nog. Closet Bull?
@BoishaaiPa: Was dit die verloor of die opwindende lughawe wat jou soontoe gedryf het?
@rugbyfan:
@Queenian:
@Ludz:
@Kingcharles: @Mike:
I am a bit late to the ruck, but i would like to add one important factor that people seem to forget to mention here. The cost of sending your son back to Queenstown, the times now do not allow such luxury as its very costly and not logical. The disadvantage for Queenstown is that people go outside after high school and settle all over the country for University and so on and out grow Queenstown as staying in PE, CPT JHB, Durban or even EL offers someone more in terms of career wise and continence wise. Tell me now, why would i settle in East London, have a stable job as a real estate agent not send my son to Selborne? First of all i know for a fact that the traditions and customs are the same as the schools have a close relationship. Two, its R20 odd thousand for annual school fees for both schools, but i will have to pay an extra R30 000 for hostel fees, and excludes the pocket money that is a customary norm should i send him back to Queens. Times are not the same now, as people even ask you if why are you having a third or fourth child, if you can afford it. Queens is a great school and i know that the are challenges, but those challenges make the college even stronger, i left Queens when we had 22 rugby teams, now days there are 20-21, that makes me proud as even schools who have 1000 pupils more than us do not have the ratio of contributors than us. If you will let comments like mister Kingfisher pull you down then you will lose what being a Queenian is about, Mr Queenian, you do not have to justify yourself why your son is not at Queens as its a personal matter and i know that the 4 stained glass windows are engrained in your heart. comradeship in WORK, PLAY, DANGER and RELIGION!!! i congratulate those Old Boys that afford to send their children back to Queens, but its very difficult to always make decisions with your heart.
MR KINGFISHER, this is not the first time you have said something controversial, you said last week that Victoria Park High School has gone ‘black’ and didn’t justify your statement.
Ek wens ons Suid-Afrikaners vorentoe kan beweeg en die einde van hierdie vinger wys, as ons kan impliseer dat die is ‘n uitstekende wedloop as ‘n ander, dan vernietig ons almal. Ek hoop Dale oorwinnings op Saterdag, wys ‘n paar van die Grey onkundige ouers wat dink dat Grey is onverbeterlike.
Mike, you are the most humble Grey man i have ever met, the Rectory, Batty Crawford has finally instilled the Queens values at the Institute for Boys, huh? Lol
@Tarpeys: Talking about feeling at home, there are a few KZN teams that do themselves no favours every 2nd year in the current local rugby power environment. House for example travel to KC, Wvl, MC and only have Gwd at home. Hilton games contra themselves out. So thats 3-1. Likewise Hilton: GW-KC-Wvl away, MC at home. 3-1 as well. Westville would have been: MC-Gwd-KC away HC-MHS at home 3-2 not so bad. Next year Kearsney have the most messed up schedule though. They will have it tough: Gwd-MC-HC-MHS away Wvl home. 4-1 Eish! Even DHS away.
@Ludz: @Queenian: I just want to say this. As KingCharles said, he is not an Old Grey. I on the other hand am an Old Grey. I have always had massive respect for both Dale and Queens. I can understand how you would get upset when race comes in to things, however, that gives you absolutely no right to associate that kind of thinking with the entirety of Grey PE and its supporters. Call us pansies or what ever you like, your problem with Grey quite obviously runs deeper than KingCharles’ comments.
I’ve seen St Charles play twice this year and they are terrible. Northwood will win a close affair. MHS will win as the majority of the side is from Durban. They feel right at home at Westville. Come on House!
Sorry guys this is a rugby blog,so if you want to have a go at me on the politics of the land get hold of me on facebook.I stand by my comments.Go Grey ,Grey by 30 on saterday
@Koos Roos: Ons almal vermoed dit is Monnas, maar met die pienk trui weet mens nooit!
@Tjoppa: Yea right. We received them with open arms, but they were not used to such hospitality, so as they were not able to adjust, they decided to return to their roots – not Portugal and Greece, but Cape Town. That is where the feeesch and chieps can be found!
Question, where is Star. I. The haze I remember him saying he was traveling. It must be an avoidance thang, to stop himself going bipolar this weekend. Westville vs House, man could tear himself in two. Up the hill, College vs Hilton, fuel on the flames. Yep, he is not traveling, he is escaping
@BOG: Ai ou Bog..dis net jy wat die heeltyd Bloem moet punt…seker omdat dit nodig is!!..Ek het Sondag heeldag daar spandeer en het eers 16h00 uitgevlieg..so na aan selfmoord was ek lanklaas!
@Tjoppa: Sorry dude, jy verwys na meer as een groep. “In my days a porra’s and Greeks was…? Een groep? As jy so dink. Wie is ek om te stry. Willie kwaaivriende maak nie. Watter skool Tjoppa?
@Koos Roos: For basic past-tense sentences, use ‘was’ for singular and ‘were’ for plural (the exception being 2nd person singular ‘you’ which uses ‘were’).Therefore referring to the “porras and greeks ” and “HNP and PFP’s” as a singular group was is the correct way.
Nie net klaskaptein maar hoofseun en eerste span kaptein ook.
@BOG: En jul rekords praat vir hulself , of hoe Bog? Daai lelike vetties het toe mean , lean Grey stutte geword of hoe?
@Ludz: We do know this:Tjoppa was class captain. In an afrikaans school I think: porras and greeks WAS? Children WAS? Sorry Tjoppa, kon dit nie weerstaan nie. Nie bad vir ‘n ou wat nooit klas kaptein kon maak nie, of hoe?
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@Tjoppa: Im greatful that GCB provided a holistic (I heard the principal use this nice word) and multi cultural education. We were Boere, English, Porras, Greeks, Jews and today you can add Xhosas, Zulus, Sothos, Chinese, and Indian. A well known Jew once remarked that Bloemfontein was the only city without a Jewish club and the reason for that, was that they were fully assimilated into the community at large. Eat your heart out!!
@Queenian: I think you were bunking English classes and taking in Chesterfield in stead of the English vernacular. Or you did it after hours at your off site campus just north of QT or did you do psychology at Komani ?
@Ploegskaar:
@Rooikat: Nee wat, met daai suur pruim bekke is ek seker hulle het klaar aambeie.
This are also a friendly reminder four the peoples from Biskoppe to brings your Wellingtons en umbrellas, it are going to rain and the cattles will only be removed just before the game….
@Tjoppa: I’m 20, finished my matric in 2011, so I know nothing about those days apart from hearing about it fortunately.
@Ploegskaar gaan Boland darem kussings op die paviljoen sit die Bishops mense kom uit welgestelde huise!
Saterdag, Kempton Park vs. Anker ; EG Jansen vs. Jeugland.
Vat hulle Kempies !
@Ludz: Then you must be a laaitie. In my days a Porra’s and Greeks was stoned without questions being asked. The HNP and PFP’s children was forced to do home schooling. When we started chasing the fat and uglies away the school pricipal stepped in and organised them schooling in the Free State.
Well good to hear the opinion of a Queen’s old boy from the 80s, some parents prefer their children closer to home, simple as that. Bringing race into it is irrelevant. Lucky enough to have grown up in a time where I could go to school with both whites and blacks, I wouldn’t have it any other way. Quite frankly I’d be very concern about the quality of men Queen’s has produced if they made the decision for their kids’ education based on the racial demographics of the scholars of a school
@Tjoppa: No hell they used to beat the crap out of us.
@rugbyfan: Dont bring yours and Bogs ala mata into this.
@Queenian: Hey my friend i see the people have you all worked up here, relax i know your heart has always been with Queens and thats good, its a great school and always will be.
@Tjoppa: Queenian spelling is most likely so bad due to the time he spent at JJS
@Queenian: Maybe being in an English school the cane was not used as much it was intended to.
@Tjoppa: Agree with you.
Ye flip my spelling is shocking that damn English teacher i must hunt him down and cane him for neglecting to teach me.
@Queenian: Queens spelling teacher was definitely white in your days. And see how that turned out.
South Africa and the world still have a long way to reach racial harmony, if ever. But in order to reach this goal we cannot turn a blind eye to our right to associate with whom we choose.
@Kingcharles: And agree with you Grey will be to strong for Dale i am afraid must be one of the weaker Dale sides for years.
@Tjoppa: Agree with you that you are not a racists if you have your childs best interest at heart just saying be carefull of what other people say about the race card to put doubt in your head.
@Tjoppa: The doubt i have at present is distance and ye if i have my resavations its about the boarding setup. What i am saying is because Queens has 69% blacks is not part of the issue with my thought process. My son is in Grade 6 so still plenty of time plan is to send him in Grade 10.
Agree that sport should only be a small consideration but one thing i can tell you is this Academics/Disapline and other school facets at Queens are as good and even could be better than Grey PE and as far as facilties go Queens is miles ahead.
Perception is the mother of all problems i will give you an example my brother inlaw was at Grey PE when my parents inlaws used to host Queens boys they stopped the first year there were blacks because they were black, the last year my brother inlaw was at Grey they decided to host two boys who were black and two this day still go on about how wrong they were and they were the best manered boys they ever hosted. And they host some 40 boys from different school over the years.
@Queenian: If you are considering sending your son to Queens there must be issues why you have not decided yet. So to conclude it will not be difficult to convince parents to send their children to Queens if a hardened supporter like you is also in doubt. Surely you cannot be a racist if you do what is best for your child according to your views. And sport should only be a small consideration in deciding.
@Kingcharles: No offence meant but i just get irratated when people speak like that were the issue sometimes the courses are more perception than anything else.
Ye and Grey PE is a good school always has been and has always had a close assocation with Queens and may that continue.
@DC ARMY: Thabani is playing for Grey PE 2nd team he is not playing good rugby this year not sure whats happening with him.
@Kingcharles: @Ludz: To make a statement like our Kingcharles is really crazy.
Let me tell you a few facts i am white who went to Queens and yes i would send my son there i am actually considering that, and to say white old boys dont send there sons there because of blacks is a bit off the mark. I cannot speak for Dale but as far as Queens go the biggest issue with old boys not sending there kids there is that the hostel system collasped but Queens are making a big effort to get this right, and in actual fact has got a lot better and a few so called white boys are returning.
Another big issue with white kids not going back to Queens is because schools like Grey PE push the issue to Queens Old Boys that Queens is now a black school and things are not safe there i have been present in the company of an Old Boy who,s son is at Grey PE when 1 teacher and 2 Grey Old boys pumped him full of that crap. Schools like Grey have benifited from what has happened.
I would rather send my son to Motherwell High than Grey PE and it is such a pleasure when watching a 80% Xhosa Queens team beat the high and might white Grey PE. (Now you wonder why we always refer to Grey PE as pansies.)
Tiere vs Donkies? Gaan goeie wedstryd wees met ‘n paar tweestryde in baie posisies.
@Greenwood: Got a mail from a fellow Collegian after this weekend. The words he used were “I did not know how much this would consume me”. He has had a personal and very successful (the most successful ever???) in College rugby, and his summary is correct.
Me, average performer at school, slightly better at club years later, hockey dad now, but rugby (or is it my old school in general … yep .. that’s actually it!!) still remains a passion. I have, to some extent, managed to separate College success from my general mood, but failed for a short period on Saturday morning when watching someone close being carried from the field (OK now, out for the manadatory concussion period). So, if I appeared a little tetchy to the Glenwood people around me , I apologise, dealing with injury to 16 yo boys is stressful stuff.
@Ploegskaar: Die gees erken ook deesdae die tekortkominge ou Ploeg. Dit is seker hoekom ek maar op ander speelvelde speel. Moet egter byse dit keer my nie om daai mooi nursie te probeer oortuig dat die oom haar tot in beserinstyd gaan rondjaag nie. Ek is nie seker hoekom hardloop sy so nie, of dit is vrees of die velle laat haar gril. Hoop maar dit is die eerste.
Ploegskaar
I too have a passion for SBR and it drives my wife mad ! I have a son a Glenwood and this makes it even worse
I went to a primary School that only played soccer and I never heard of rugby till I went to Glenwood – when I touched a rugby ball my life changed forever
I remember as a lightie my step-dad often went to watch Schoolboy rugby but I never went with him – jees ! I can kick myself for that now
He was from Zim so he did not support any local Dbn school but he was passionate about SBR
Once its in the blood its there for good
I can kick myself though when I started work I was transferred to Bloemfontein and did a year there but had never heard of Grey Bloem – so I missed out on something very special whilst there
@Tjoppa: Nee wat ou Tjop, soos my skoonpa sê, dit vat ‘n bul om hulle te maak en man om hulle groot te maak
Wil egter nie baklei met ‘n man van jou ouderdom wat ten beste deesdae met ‘n propgeweertjie moet klaarkom nie, gewillige gees, onwillige vlees, of so iets 
@ Kingcharles, really i know you didn’t just say that, there is a old saying that if you dig your self a hole you must just stop digging.
Its comment like this where you wish Dale regardless of the color somehow pull something out of the bag and shut you up, probably won’t happen. But in saying if they play like they did against Selborne a match i still believe Dale beat themselves rather than Selborne winning, who knows.
I’m saying this because at 22-20 in favour of Dale, they broke out wide and had a 3 men overlap with only the Selborne winger to beat, unfortunately the ball was in the hands of their loose head prop who had his fullback and winger on the outside and the rest is history. Even the winning try, dale have an overweight slow blindside flank who should be palying hooker, he simply went to sleep as the Selborne 8 broke on the blind to score.
So let’s hope for a good match on Sat, does anyone know from Grey whatever happened to Thabani Mgugudo?
@Kingcharles: and you know this how? Sir, I’m not looking for the race card, fortunately enough I was raised during a time where race didn’t matter to me, I got along with both my black and white counterparts just fine. I never play the race card. So what you’re saying is that our rugby is affected by black boys? We aren’t strong because the white old boys don’t send their sons to our schools anymore? Do you know anything about the Dale side of last year? Selborne side of 2011, who the captain was etc? Do you know anything about who the standout backline players were at Maritzburg College at the festival earlier this year? What jumps at me is that you have this generalisation about school with the majority of black boys, seemingly black boys aren’t great rugby players. So that makes our schools weak in rugby. I’ll be the 1st to tell you that they can rarely match up to their white counterparts in size, but to suggest that schools are weak, because the white old boys’ sons aren’t at Queen’s anymore and the black boys aren’t as gifted simply points to ignorance.
Shows what era you still live in, if Queen’s and Dale invested half the money Grey PE do in rugby, believe me Grey PE wouldn’t be as superior as you actually think sir. We don’t buy the entire u13 Craven Week side to start at the high school. We work with our own boys, we invest time and coaching in them and from time to time we get a good victory over the might Grey PE etc, believe it or not we still make an appearance in the top 20 every now and then.
@BOG: Ongelukkig geen deurdagte beplanning betrokke nie, MAAR, met troues en studies op die horison dink ek dit kan my dalk baat in die toekoms om darem alles by te bring. Dit, of ‘n besigheid begin an myself elke 6 jaar bankrot verklaar
@BOG: Nee hy is net nie so fiks of vrugbaar nie. Watter een sal ek nie kan se nie.
@Ploegskaar: As ek kyk na die spasie tussen jou dogters, het dit iets te doen met n swak oesjaar of is jy heimlik n GCB ondersteuner wie na ander prioriteite kyk wanneer hulle so elke 5 jaar “minder goed” vertoon?
@Kingcharles: My oh my, if that was not a racial comment what is?
You are a shining example of why this “New South Africa” is not working. Wherever you went with that comment, it smacks of a racist attitude. Don’t worry it will not be long before your beloved Grey is infiltrated, it now 40% Afrikaans, 20% Xhosa, 5% Asian and that only leaves 35% English boys from Mill Park and Walmer.
The good old small world syndrome of “The Grey'”has already been infiltrated.
@sacssupporter: BTW, would that business be a surf shop?
@sacssupporter: Bud, I have no boys (three girls aged 17, 11 and 5), but have not stopped following SBR since the day I left school and will continue to do so even after the youngest one has finished school. Once you have been bitten by the bug, you will keep going back for more, just ask my dad. He still walks down to ‘Berg every Saturday when they have a home game, or takes a drive down to either SACS, ‘Bosch or Bishops if ‘Berg plays away, but he never misses out on his dose of SBR!
@Rugbyliefhebber: Kyk, jy weet ek ondersteun julle manne so ‘n bietjie (ten minste tot einde volgende jaar), maar soos wat ek al vir van die betrokke partye gesê het sal die, kom ons noem dit gevestigde skole, julle net ernstig opneem as julle eerstens oor ‘n lang tydperk sukses teen hulle behaal, maar nog belangriker, ten minste 14-16 spanne op ‘n Saterdag kan uitsit. Dit is dan ook die rede waarom Tygerberg, ondanks redelike sukses die afgelope dekade, steeds nie Premier A speel nie. Te oordeel aan die entoesiasme van die wat tans die oplewing dryf, is daar geen rede hoekom julle nie suksesvol kan wees nie, maar dit sal ‘n volgehoue poging van die skool, gemeenskap en besighede verg om dit te voltrek, selfs in die minder suksesvolle seisoene wat voorlê, en lg sal dan ook die werklike toets wees. Ek wens julle natuurlik alle sterkte toe, ‘n sterk n/voorstede groep kan net goed vir skolerugby wees!
@Ploegskaar: Tell me about it – and I thought running a business was stressful! Over the last three years that my son has been involved in the 1st xv my hair colour has become a lot more grey and is thinning a lot quicker!
Having said that I would not change it for anything! What on earth am I going to do next year?
@BoishaaiPa. Meer gekyk na die prestasies van die skole in 2012. Soos jy weet het Hugenote ‘n bulspan gehad in 2012. Nie heeltemal so ingelig oor die rankings die afgelope 5 jaar nie, maar sal van nou af begin volg.
@Rugbyliefhebber: Hoe klassifiseer mens n groot kanon?..Ek sou dink spanne wat darem gereeld oor n lang tydperk onder die Top 10/20 is sal gesien word as n groot kanon..twee van daai skole op jou lys is 44ste en 60ste oor die laaste 5 jaar. Stellenberg word beter gerank as dit.
Ludz,it seems you are looking for a reason to play the race card,well i will gladly give it to you,the main reason the Old Boys no longer send there kids to Schools such as Dale and Queens is because these schools are now virtually totally black and they prefer for there sons to be schooled in a school were they have a choice of association.It is definately not because the schools standards have dropped,because they havent,these schools are still in very good nick and very well run,this is mainly because the people who are in charge are still white,so there Ludz my boy,my comments,do what you will with them,they are not racial at all,just factual.
@Kingcharles: what obivious reasons are you referring to sir?
Mike if Dale get to within 10 points of Grey it won,t be because they played well it will be because Grey went to sleep,agree it never was easy at Dale but unfortunately times have changed,and Dale are no longer the rugby school they were,i spent 12 years either watching at Dale or at Grey,my son was at Grey,the same applies to most Border schools,old boys no longer send there kids there for obvious reasons,they now either go to Grey PE or Grey Bloem,or any other school but the Border schools,my sisters kids all went to Queens,and there kids now all go to Jeppe Boys.
Unless of course , like the SHARks who have bogey sides too , DHS are Kearsneys little psychological ( that was hard to spell ) hurdle ??
@Mike: clearly KingCharles doesn’t know much about Dale at the Graveyard, underestimate them anywhere else in the country or province, but the last place you wanna write off Dale at is KWT. They’re the kind of okes who you have to make sure that every inch of space is closed down. The whole of KWT gets behind them on a big derby.
That said this is 1 of the weaker Dalian side you will see, so Grey should be able to take them.
@Pedantic: Very humble of you but DHS not in the same league as Kearsney at U16 A level . To draw against Clifton ?? Didnt Keasrsney play Clifton and win 62 nil ?? DHS plays with big heart but dont think it will touch sides against a very good Kearsney side !!
@Woltrui: Let them feel the might of an average Monnas side and realise what they are busy with in the land of the Zulu.
Monnas/Glenwood: I think we are in for a big surprise. Monnas taking first team match by 6. Monnas got more to prove than Glenwood. The boys will be motivated out of their socks after the KES fiasco.
U/14 Nu power champs against Charkies champs. Monnas by 10. U/15 and 16’s will be easy games for the Vaalies. Sorry Hopper
@Kingcharles: I do agree Dale doesn’t have a great side this year, however, Dale has never been a walk over, let alone in king Williams town. The Grey Boys will play 23 fixtures this year and I don’t believe any one of those is a sure win. One lapse of concentration against Dale and you’ll be chasing down a score there which is never easy.
Some big ones here in the Border region this weekend, a visit to the House of Pain for the boys from Grahamstown and a visit to the Graveyard for the Grey boys, some good rugby for some EC gents
Linden vs Randburg this Saturday. Huge derby as its the first time in many years that these two neighbouring schools play each other in a league.
@NW_Knight: Big call for the St Charles match!!
Not sure who a College boy who lives in Durban North should be supporting … but I think NW can take this. Be a much closer game though?
You are far to kind Mike,this year Dale are really very weak,which is very sad as i am a huge supporter of all Eastern Cape rugby schools,i was at junior school in Umtata in the 60,s and used to play against these schools,Umtata dont play rugby anymore,which is also sad,the school is totally run down.
My predictions for what it’s worth:
Glenwood by 5
Westville by 20
College by 15
Kearsney by 30
Northwood by 25
George Campbell by 10
@Umtata: Always tough in king. If Grey can keep possession and play to their strengths they should win by 10. If the give Dale ball, they will find themselves in big trouble. Grey won’t be resting any of its players I assure you, not will they be taking this game lightly.
@beet: True. I just hope the boys bring the same mindset they brought when they played Selborne and the coaches did their homework on Grey.
@Rugbyliefhebber: Ek verstaan julle het gevra om die jaar teen “groter” rugby skole te speel. Dit was nogal verbasend dat die WP jul die vergunning gegee het omrede ‘n skool darem seker eers vir so ‘n jaar of 2 moet “perform” voor hul opgeskuif word. Enige ander suksesse die afgelope 5 jaar behalwe die wen teen Boland Landbou sonder 8 van hul 1ste span spelers?
@Umtata: It’s gonna be tough for Dale. Grey will dominate forward exchanges. Dale will have to work extra hard on D and playing unstructured rugby to unsettle Grey and they will really need to be at their best in terms of handling skills and execution speed to make the most of what is bound to be the minority of possession.
@Kingcharles: Keep on dreaming boet
@Buffel:
I hope they do because that would allow for a very,very entertaining battle at #10 by the Craven Week flyhalves.
Don’t know if the starting XV has been chosen yet but this should be a good indicator for the #10 CW jersey…
@HORSEFLY NO.1: pretty much on the money. should be entertaining . looking forward to see how the pack stand up to Kearsney .
@Pedantic:
I do and I realise that but I do think it’ll be very hard for DHS to keep that winning streak. Kearsney are in a different league this year compared to the previous 2 years.
But should be good.
Methinks this is how it’ll go down:
1st- Kearsney by 35
2nd- Kearsney by 25
16A- Kearsney by 20
16B- Kearsney by 30
15A- DHS by 6
15B- DHS by 2
14A- DHS by 20
14B- Kearsney by 8
@HORSEFLY NO.1: You do realise that current Kearsney U16A has never beaten their DHS counterparts? This will be a big game with a lot of pride at stake from both sides.
Stellenberg vs Hugenote (Wellington) Nog ñ wedstryd van die Stellies teen een van die Boland se groot kanonne. Dit behoort ñ baie harde en gelykop wedstryd te wees. Stellenberg het reeds die seisoen gespeel teen groot kanonne soos Bishops, Ben Vorster, HS Middelburg, SACS, HTS Drostdy, Rondebosch en Boland Landbou. Die wedstryd begin Saterdag om 12h30 by Stellenberg.
@Gungets Tuft: Exchange students returning home
Personally, I think NW will take this one.
Dream on Umtata,i am sure Grey PE will use this opportunity to rest some of there regulars and get some game time for the fringe players.as they still have an overseas tour to go on at the end of the season.1ST XV OR 2ND XV Grey by 20 to 30
Do hope School picks up its game against a very good Kearsney side.
Again the closest games will be the early ones in 14A and 15A. Good luck boys!
Rondesbosch vs PRG going to be good….esp the u16’s as stated before
@beet: It is seldom the Dads that make that decision. In House’s case I reckon two of the mommies got the clothes mixed up one morning and made the decision. Now I don’t know if they saw the way their hubbies turned out and wanted to break the cycle …
.. or perhaps the mommies diluted the gene pool too much and thought the chilluns might not cope … karrent say bwana …. just know the way it turned out. My son almost didn’t make it to College …
@Gungets Tuft: Shouldn’t have given those Old Boys such a good education at MC then.
@GreenBlooded: @star: I actually think College vs Hilton will be tight. Again College setpieces. Get them right and they are A for away. No over-elaboration in the backs but the ability to be so effective. I’m not sure why the results haven’t gone Hilton’s way but they look like a good team, just perhaps struggle a bit in scrums in 1st half. Otherwise a good lineout, decent carriers esp at 8, matchwinner scrumhalf and useful flyhalf, a centre with penetration. Wings and fullback keen to get involved. I hope Richmond and/or Garcao is fit, will make for an interesting contest with Lindo and Banele.
I’m also sad that Seko Buthelezi didn’t work out at prop. Last year I didn’t think there was a place for Seko in this year’s 1st team from a workrate point of view and thought he would only make it as a prop but wow he’s really done his share for the team. I love his ball carrying ability. The lack of height meant he was never going to Craven Week as a lock but he would have been an easy pick if he was a decent scrumming prop.
Definitely hope the Midlands ref on Saturday lets the game flow. The start-stop-penalty fest is lousy.
@beet: Eeisch. 3 Sons of College Old Boys in the House team. Sad state of affairs …
@GB- I am not so sure about College beating Hilton by 20 at Hilton. Remember the midland refs
and GW only pulled it out of the fire against the whites in the last 5 minutes at home. Westville did likewise.
@ Beet- I think you are right about House. At the beginning of the season I called them spine-less compared to last season. However all it takes is one or two combinations to settle to get them back on track and release the beast within. My brother and nephew will be there wearing the red and white and so Westville better not take this for granted on Old Boys day.
@Umtata:
brave predictions
@beet: You might be right but at best St Andrews will battle at the Rec
@Queenian: Queens are gonna have to contend with a backlash of note. St Andrews will be desperate to show their quality after last weekend’s one sided looking defeat.
Dale College by 2
Queens by 5
@beet: The (rather partisan) report in the newspaper said that Northwood had plenty possession, when did Jonas leave (and why – I am guessing he didn’t go back to Lithuania – or did he, perhaps after not making the CW team???).
Well, it does free up a spot for a local boy at least, Ferguson, Beukes, Fouche?? (good kid Fouche, know him well, managed right he will run until he is unconcious!! – might struggle to get him to concentrate if the surf is up …).
Not going to wax too lyrical about that though …
Match program for the Bishops supporters making their way down the N1:
u14a 10:40: Kasteelberg
u15a 08:20: Paardeberg
u16a 09:30: Paarlberg
u19a 11:50: Paardeberg
Bring a brolly and dictionary, hier praat ons Afrikaans, and remember to greet, hier groet ons mekaar!
Since the Glenwood game is on TV, I think the match to get to is Hilton vs College. Gonna be a cracker.Hopefully the ref takes a leaf out of the Craig Joubert book and lets the game flow.
Gonna be a cracker. u16 game should be good as well.
@Greenblooded: Come on Glenwood!!!!!! Really will be supporting you guys this weekend – Good Luck… With CW just around the corner, it will be an important match to win
As for KC vs DHS, i am hoping that DHS turn up and give a good performance.
Glenwood vs Monnas – Monnas absolutely need to bring a big presence up front. Dominate those exchanges and do what Highveld teams do so well against KZN sides – go after the lineout. Disrupt it. Force Glenwood to play off bad ball otherwise I don’t think they have ability to stop Glenwood keeping the scoreboard moving. Monnas are really good in the redzone tho so they will get points but I don’t think they will get enough points.
Grey PE should be to strong for Dale
Westville look to be in good nick as well. The game against MHS will be good. House got a good confidence booster last week. I think it was especially valuable for the backs. They have a pack who can definitely compete. The boys can scrum, lineout, carry. They just need a better balance between the forwards and backs. The backs need to get their defensive structures right and do more with ball in hand. Perhaps with Tattam and Furness a little more settled as a combo they will get that. I expect Westville to win but House have the potential to make a close match of it.
Queens vs St Andrews will be a big game looking for the Kudu to kick some snob butt this weekend.
@GreenBlooded: @Gungets Tuft: Northwood’s big Lithuanian flank Jonas has left and I think he is sorely missed judging by the 45-0 vs Westville.
Saturday will be interesting but I think Northwood will take it.
@sacssupporter: This season there are only 2 big guns in the North and one big one in the South
The games where the remaining sides are involved in, will be a lottery every Saturday, but at least makes for great entertainment and plenty of cussing/elation/frustration/constipation for their supporters 
@GreenBlooded: I reckon Northwood could knock St Charles over here. Northwood just can’t seem to finish, they have loads of possession but nothing to show for it.
Personally – I reckon Barry Wilson could have sorted that out. Just lack that last second decision making, or something, it’s a mystery. But, I reckon this could be NW’s moment.
Glenwood – big task but they are up for it. Unless Saturday cleaned them out, both College and Glenwood must have felt the pace and tempo of that at practice on Monday. Anyway, got to root for the local boys …. 8)
Some huge games for the Southern Suburbs schools up against their Paarl/Stellenbosch rivals – Bosch vs Paul Roos will be tight – but here is an opportunity for the Cape Town schools to see how close they are getting to the “big guns” just north of us…
@Archie: Thanks. What time?
Glenwood by 4 (Old Boys Day vibe to carry them)
Westville by 20
College by 20
Kearsney by 50
St Charles by 10
Ben Vorster vs PHS on Saturday FNB Classic Clash on tv