Wildeklawer 2013 Day 2

4 May, 2013 beet General 177

Match summaries of Wildeklawer Day 2

Paarl Gymnasium 34 Waterkloof 6

MIN	SCORE	DETAILS
8	5-0	Murphy drifts, Wayno Visagie runs a good angle and Gimmies use their overlap on the left to good effect. . Too easy. Opening try for Grant Hermanus.
		Kloof struggling with their lineout early on. This problem was to become progressively worse throughout the game and Kloof eventually had to rely on short lineouts towards the end of the game.
10	5-3	Waterkloof converts territorial advantage into points via flyhalf Tinus de Beer
		Waterkloof using the kicking game to good effect.

15	5-6	Waterkloof leads. More good territory to Waterkloof wins them a penalty via Tinus de Beer.

21	10-6	Paarl Gim turn down kickable penalties in favour of tap and goes. Some good carries by Rikus Bothma amongst others. From a tap, Gim goes wide right. Ryan Oosthuizen does well to catch a low pass, then shows good strength to force Murphy drifts, Wayno Visagie runs a good angle and Gimmies use their overlap on the left to good effect. . Too easy. Opening try for Grant Hermanus.
		his way between two defenders and over.
23		Schickerling has a good run off the back of a lineout. Klofies infringe at the ruck. Penalty but Gim right in front doesn’t go for posts again. They then knock on a few phases after the tap and go.
		Schickerling is the star of the first half with good work in the lineouts and good ground gaining carries into contact.
		Leviel Gouws drops a sitter with space in front of him. Later a bad pass is too difficult for the pacy right wing to hang onto. Gim definitely left points on the field in this half.
30	10-6	Halftime
33		De Beer misses a long penalty kick
34	13-6	Gim brings more pressure after a Wayno Visagie kick ahead gets them into Klofies territory. Murphy takes the penalty from an angle.
		Klofies losing the battle up front and not getting much good ball to work with. Tactical kicking is their best bet. Little handling errors put pave to a few promising runs and drives.
		Pierre de Klerk gets to within 5m of the Gim try-line after sustained pressure by Klofies
42		Gim runs the ball from a scrum on their 5m. Ryan Oosthuizen collects and breaks tackles as part of a 25m carry out of danger.
44		David Joyce is yellow carded for slowing the ball at the ruck. Gim goes for the corner with the penalty. Rikus Bothma is held up from yet another good Gim lineout and rolling maul
48	20-6	Brendan Nell scores from play after the 5m scrum. He dummies and goes from the ruck set up on the Klofies line from a power drive by Momsen.
51		Dewald Lindeque almost scores in the right corner. This after a very good passage of play by Klofies. Good continuity and running.
55	27-6	The efficient lineout of Gim results in yet another outstanding rolling maul. This time Rikus Bothma makes no mistake with the carry up and finishes.
60	34-6	Grant Hermanus gets his second try. Good continuity and forward carries by Gim with Luus featuring prominently before they spin the ball wide for Hermanus on the overlap.
		JD Schickerling is the deserved man of the match. Solid performances by Wyatt Murphy, Ryan Oosthuizen, Grant Hermanus and captain Rikus Bothma

EG Jansen 64 Diamantveld 0

MIN	SCORE	DETAILS
4		Diamantveld starts really well. Good hands and speed from a scrum sees them advance play into the EG 22. They loose momentum and miss a drop goal attempt.
		Diamantveld playing with a lot of determination after a poor performance against Grey High on Day 1
		Jansies final pass out wide to the righthand wing position leaves a lot to be desired.
20	7-0	Christopher Schimpel scores for Jansies after a quick tap penalty by centre Cronje. The ball goes through the hands to the left wing. Kobus Engelbrecht converts from the corner. The try was really started by a good play that saw the ball taken from inside their own half to near the Diamantveld try-line.
23	14-0	Marco Holmes controls a ball at the base of a drive from a penalty lineout, then breaks away and pops it off the deck to Stiaan van Zyl for the try at close range. Engelbrecht converts. The field position was secured by a penalty from a no-arms should charge.
27	21-0	Jansies enjoy an excellent passage of continuity. They show good patience and handling. Flyhalf Ruan Potgieter shows good hands and awareness of support around him. Finally from an attacking scrum on the left, EG’s flank Morne Swart attacks off the side. Quickball from the tackle sees Potgieter back himself into the gap on an angled run to score the try. Engelbrecht converts.
33	28-0	Ruan Potgieter with an excellent break to set Cronje for the try
34	35-0	Christoper Schimpel rounds off a try after EG run the ball left from the kickoff. Strong centre Sampie Hearn gets hands through the tackle for the assist.
44	40-0	14 man Jansies score after Sampie Hearn charges down a kick in the redzone and follows it up with downward pressure just before the deadball-line
46	47-0	Potgieter excellent improvisation off the deck and Cronje + Hearn do excellent work to set up Martin van Wyk for the try.
		After their good start Diamantveld have no structure and are falling off tackles.
53	54-0	Morne Swart returns from the bin to make a good carry off a lineout. His big drive allows Etian Enslin to cross the chalk from close.
56	59-0	Morne Swart scores in the right corner after excellent work by Xander Cronje, who makes a perfect offload.
59	64-0	Christopher Schimpel completes his hat trick. A Sonny Bill by prop
60	64-0	Fulltime
		Strong centre Sampie Hearn collects Man of the Match

Glenwood 17 HJS Paarl Boys High 15

MIN	SCORE	DETAILS
4		HJS Thomas du Toit is penalized for scrumming up. Glenwood fullback Corne Vermaak misses the kick
7		HJS under pressure of Glenwood attacks concedes a penalty for not supporting body weight at the ruck. The easy kick is missed.
10	0-7	A well-struck tactical kick ahead by HJS sees Sparks Ngcobo not using his boot to find touch. The problem gets compounded when Vermaak tries to kick to the long touch and misses it badly. Vers returns it well, showing good speed and uses a textbook inside-out to score in the corner.
17		Glenwood continue to enjoy the better part of possession and territory but HJS do a good job of suffocating them with rapidly advancing defence. There are also a lot of unforced errors in the game.
21		Glenwood win a penalty straight in front on the 22 after HJS are pinged for offside from a kick chase. Vermaak misses. The game is very scrappy and start-stoppish.
26	0-10	Penalty to HJS in front. Scrumhalf Damian Stevens makes no mistake.
29		Francois Du Toit has an excellent run for HJS. He breaks tackles and looks well on his way to making it across the line with momentum on his side. However at the crucial moment, he offloads a suspect pass and HJS turnover possession.
30	0-10	Halftime
33	7-10	High tackle penalty sees Glenwood set up an attacking lineout. Glenwood go wide and Vermaak joins the line. HJS try to intercept a ball but Mcuma regathers the bounced ball and scores on the left side.
39	7-15	HJS wins a crucial tighthead near the Glenwood line. From there they attack and win a penalty which they kick into touch. After winning the lineout, the pack drives the ball up before big prop Thomas du Toit shows good strength and forces his way over for a try. Incredibly Stevens conversion attempt is charged down.
46	14-15	Glenwood wins an offsides penalty. They rumble it up after winning the attacking lineout and Kevin du Randt does really well to plant the ball over the line in the corner. Vermaak comes up with an excellent conversion.
49		Glenwood comes up with huge defence to repel several big pick and drives by the big the HJS forwards.
50		HJS wins a tighthead and Dante van der Merwe almost scores. He is held up under the posts.
57	17-15	Glenwood wins a long range penalty after HJS infringes at the ruck while Glenwood were retreating. Vermaak who kicked well in the second half puts Glenwood into the lead.
58		HJS makes a crucial mistake and kicks the ball out on the full from the kickoff.
60	17-15	Glenwood show a lot of character to win it.
		Glenwood’s Nkululeko Mcuma is named man of the match

Affies 17 Paul Roos 10

MIN	SCORE	DETAILS
6		Affies frees up space on the outside. Salmon v H passes to Thys van Wyk who has space to run into. He however identifies that the cover defence will close him down and so communicates with Jurie Linde on his inside and hoists a high ball from his position on the left wing into the centre of the Paul Roos 22m which Linde chances down and almost catches. A knock on but good play.
7		Paul Roos lose a lineout but in the carry up Affies don’t release the ball on the ground after a tackle. The penalty is missed.
9	0-7	Try to flank Mitchell Carstens of Paul Roos. A grubber ahead by Cupido and pressure on Affies centre Phillip Orffer by PRG wing Heugh forces him to lose the ball backwards in the contact. Heigh collects the ball and passes to PRG’s lock Daniel Buitendag. He and Mitchell Carstens combine well down the left hand touch line to get the try. Cupido with an excellent conversion out of the corner.
13	0-10	Paul Roos use a scrum to attack to the right. A bit of pace gets injected by fullback Chris Smith. From the ruck set up where he is tackled on the right, flyhalf Cupido gets a pass in the centre of the field and lands a good drop goal.
		Affies forwards are able to secure good ball but they seem to struggle for continuity
21		Affies move a ball wide and Jurie Linde makes a line break. Left wing Thys van Wyk heads towards the corner and PRG’s Daniel du Plessis makes the all important try saving cover tackle.
28		Affies win a penalty when PRG tackler Tristan Cramer does not support his body weight when trying to win a turnover after a tackle. Affies miss the kick at goal.
30		Affies run the ball with pace for a change. Right wing kicks ahead and chases. The bounce is favourable but with the attentions of 2 defenders around him the wing is just unable to hold onto the ball.
30	0-10	Half time.
32		From broken play Ivan van Zyl sends a long pass out the way of Jurie Linde. The Affies and SA Schools centre races between the 2 PRG centres and from their Affies gets into the PRG 22m area where they win a penalty. A quick tap sees the Witbulle come very close to scoring a try with a knock-on on the try-line ending the attack.
38	7-10	Jurie Linde scores Affies opening try after he is afforded too much room on the outside. The mistake made by Paul Roos is that they did not find the safety of touch with a clearance kick. This allowed Affies to run the ball back at them.
40		Thys van Wyk is set free on a long run upfield but Affies as part of a frustrating game turnover possession at the very next ruck.
44		Paul Roos start to concede penalties
47	14-10	Affies get their second try. Again it’s the outstanding centre Jorie Linde who collects a kicked ahead ball. His pace on the outside is what makes things happen. There is good support by Affies flyhalf and hooker. For once Affies retain control of the ball with good handling. Prop DP du Plessis is the man, not quite on the overlap from quickball but he is strong enough to power his way past a last line PRG defender to score.
52	17-10	Affies Ivan van Zyl exploits space on the blind and then links up brilliantly with his right wing. Again there is good quick recycled ball for Francois Steyn to hurdle a defender and come close to the line where Affies eventually wins a penalty. Van Zyl converts it.
54		A penalty lineout for Paul Roos does not go according to plan but they manage to retrieve the ball and attack well, coming to within a metre of the Affies line before they lose control of the ball and Affies toe the ball out of danger.
60	17-10	Final score. An untidy effort but Affies deserved to win this game. They were clearly the better team.
		Ivan van Zyl of Affies beats his teammate Jurie Linde to win the man of the match

Grey College 13 Monument 8

MIN	SCORE	DETAILS
5		Grey College starts with good pace but a couple of uncharacteristic knock-ons stop their momentum
6	0-3	Ruan Conradie lands a drop goal for Monnas. This after sustained attacking by the Witbulle. The coordination of their attack was very good.
11		The game is quite intense with big collisions in the rain. Grey College’s Stephen Rautenbach misses a long range penalty kick.
14		Rautenbach misses another long range penalty.
20	7-3	De Wet Bezuidenhout scores for Grey College after a good rolling maul.
24		Gerdus van der Walt misses a long range penalty
26	7-8	Dillion Vlok scores a try for Monnas off a rolling maul. The field position is set up by smart play from the Monnas captain and scrummy Johan Esterhuizen and a good kick ahead plus chase by wing Grobler
30		Van der Walt of Monnas attempts and misses a huge kick at posts in adverse conditions.
30	7-8	Halftime
39	10-8	A good passage for Grey. They show patience with their pick and drive game. Helped by a dart from scrummy Heinrich Sander play goes right to the Monnas try-line where a penalty is conceded by the defenders, which Grey turns into 3-points via the boot
44	13-8	More good play by Grey in the hard rain wins them another penalty which Rautenbach duly turns into points via the boot.
48		Big Monnas prop Frans van Wyk comes up produces a strong carry to get over the Grey line but he is held up.
49		Monnas win 2 penalties on the Grey line. They tap and set up rucks but eventually knock on. This turns out to be crucial because Monnas gave away 3 easy points and in the 59th minute they won another kickable penalty which would have taken them into a 14-13 lead if successful. Decision-making cost Monnas.
55		Grey misses a penalty.
59		Monnas wins a penalty and sets up an attacking lineout. They maul it up via a tremendous effort by the Monnas forwards who were very good particularly during the second half in which they dominated. Close to the line the ball is passed to a ball runner who knocks it on, so ending the game. Monnas are devastated.
60	13-8	Fulltime. Johan Kriek of Grey is named as man of the match.

Other results

	Oakdale 40 – 3 Sharks Invitational XV
Oakdale	40
Tries	Jean Terblanché 2, JT Jackson, Gene Willemse, Lorenzo Gordon, Nemo Roelofse
Penalties
Conversions	JT Jackson 5

Sharks Invitational	3
Tries
Penalties	Merlynne Pieterse
Conversions
	Boland Landbou 20 – 16 Noord-Kaap
Boland Landbou	20
Tries	Riaan Sutherland, Luan Bantjies
Penalties	Tian Nel 2
Conversions	Tian Nel 2

Noord-Kaap	16
Tries	Hilford Clarke
Penalties	Dimitrio Tieties 3
Conversions	Dimitrio Tieties 1
	Maritzburg College 16 – 16 Framesby
Maritzburg College	16
Tries	Lindo Ngcobo, Simon Culverwell
Penalties	Marcel Coetzee 2
Conversions

Framesby	16
Tries	Ernst Stapelberg
Penalties	Ernst Stapelberg 3
Conversions	Ernst Stapelberg
	Outeniqua 48 – 15 Grey High
Outeniqua	48
Tries	Duhan van der Merwe 2, Geor Malan 2, Eduard Zandberg, Warrick Gelant, Marne Botha
Penalties	Leighton Eksteen
Conversions	Leighton Eksteen 5

Grey High	15
Tries	Luca Dellavecchia, Richard Bryant
Penalties	Richard Bryant
Conversions	Richard Bryant
	Drosdy 29 – 7 Wildeklawer Invitation
Drostdy	29
Tries	Corne Nel 2, Selwin White, Ziaan Barnard,Tiaan Muller
Penalties
Conversions	Wynand Roets

Wildeklawer Inv	7
Tries	Ethan Nel
Penalties
Conversions	Ethan Nel

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#177 Queenian

@Gungets Tuft: Thanks so MC should be okay for the next 5 years or so.

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9 May, 2013 at 09:30
#176 Vleis

@HORSEFLY NO.1: St John’s have won most of the SA schools water polo tourneys this century and another Gauteng school won this year in Saints. The current top 5 schools in the country have Gauteng at 1 and 3. The best Natal team is at 4 and one WC team is at 2. Football? Good grief, the last provincial tourney that I attended saw the Central Gauteng A, B and C teams all beat the Natal A team. You say cricket = WC recently…and yet six of the current top seven ranked cricket teams are from Gauteng. Hmmm, I think stick to DHS matter Horesy

Anyway, you and CapeMan can have the last words as this is becomming Groundhog Day!!

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9 May, 2013 at 00:37
#175 Vleis

@CapeMan: I’ll take your word on the St Alban’s score, but bear in mind that your school is more than 50% larger than St Alban’s. More importantly though, how do you account for your home loss in 1987 against my school – Greenside High, which is just a measly co-ed school from lowly Gauteng?

As the footie fans would sing…”One nil, one nil, one nil, one…..”

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9 May, 2013 at 00:24
#174 HORSEFLY NO.1

@Vleis
Waterpolo definitely NOT Gauteng. Western Cape then KZN . If you look at thee SA champs, these two provinces won almost all the finals across the age-groups. In the boys, WC won 1st and U15, KZN winning U16A and U14A(with 7 DHS boys there)
As for athletics, as a province yes better, but as individual schools DHS and Glenwood would beg to differ.

Basketball is CLEARLY KZN, no discussion.Rugby=Western Cape. Swimming KZN. Cricket probably Western Cape recently . Hockey is KZN. Soccer I don’t know, KZN has some pretty good teams. College,Westville,DHS all put out really good teams year-in year-out

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9 May, 2013 at 00:23
#173 CapeMan

@Vleis: We are dragging this convo. lets just agree to disagree. btw, the last time we played st albans in rugby, I do believe the score was 20-0 to us with mostly half a 1st team. 4 tries.

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8 May, 2013 at 23:48
#172 Vleis

@CapeMan: I was responding to your comment that, “WP are the best sporting province in the country.” I am taking that statement at face value. You can try to qualify it by only including school provincial sports and by going back to 1880 :lol:….however, I don’t have to play by the rules that you set.

I’m only interested in the recent past – perhaps a decade. Prior to then were different times – e.g. when I was at school in the 80’s, my little co-ed school went on tour to CT and beat SACS at rugby. Said co-ed school can only produce a 1st team now and would lose to SACS’s 8th team. I could claim that they are better as the record reads played SACS once and beat SACS once, but I won’t as one must move with the times. When Steve Jobs took over apple about 15 years ago, Michael Dell said that he would “shut it (apple) down and give the money back to the shareholders. FYI – apple is now 20 to 25 times larger than Dell.

So….this century , St Johns have won by far the most national water polo tournaments – I’m not sure how many, but probably about 8 in the past 12/13 years, which is ‘GCB-like’. 8)

Feel free to discredit any school that you like, if that is your wish. I am only making a valid point that the WP CW team (since I have been following SBR in the past five years) has precious few players from CT. That is a fact, not an opinion.

As I said earlier, I’m not even going to bother anymore with the football argument – it’s like Hentie Cilliers claiming to be the best rugby school in the FS!

By the way, St Albans were ranked 7 in the country at cricket last year, 4th at basketball…and I’m sure that the hockey will be in the current top 20…..so not only rowing.

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8 May, 2013 at 18:37
#171 Gungets Tuft

@Queenian: Rugby I assume.

U16 are playing well, seem to have come together nicely, beat Northwood and DHS with ease
U15 much improved over last year, still some kinks to iron out. Good game against a highly rated DHS side (14 all).
U14 have blown hot and cold. Lots of talent there, have the customary College problem getting them to gel early on. Saw similar from the current U16 side 2 years ago, they will improve. On their day they will be difficult to handle for most

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8 May, 2013 at 16:15
#170 CapeMan

@Gungets Tuft: When I refered to Wynberg being number 1 in cricket and hockey I was referring to the Cape. With those stats, youve put to bed who is the best in hockey in the country historically. @Vleis: What are you talking about? To say the Cape schools havent contributed to the strength of WP rugby would be highly incorrect. Go do some research man. We are talking schools here dude. As rugby is strong in the so called model c schools and boys schools, so footy is with the townships schools. I was referring to provincial tournaments. For example, Gauteng vs KZN…not academies..I dont even know why you are talking about the psl teams. Way off topic. Didnt Ajax just beat the might amakhosi 3-1 last week and chippa beat pirates?? 8) (btw I am a chiefs fan, then a ajax fan). While St Johns are in the top 3 historically and would have a strong case to be number 1 historically, they certainly do not have the dominance that GCB have in rugby. Really poor comparison my dear old chap. Again, youve missed the point. My point is when it comes to provincial competition, who has won the most. I will not discredit St Albans like you have tried to discredit the southern suburb boy schools, but if i did…..lets just say, St Albans can only speak when it comes to rowing maybe

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8 May, 2013 at 16:12
#169 Queenian

@Gungets Tuft: How are MC Under14/15/16 this year

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8 May, 2013 at 13:52
#168 Queenian

@badboy: Dont get Rugbyfan going he will block the whole blog up with stats again.

The only reason he likes putting up stats is GCB is always on top.

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8 May, 2013 at 13:42
#167 Gungets Tuft

@Vleis: 0-0 draw. College have blow hot and cold this year, hot against Northwood who are “ranked 2” (my views on those well known), then have taken some big score losses as well this year, 0-3 to PBHS for instance. It is a very young team, quite a few Grade 10 kids, so watch out next year and 2015 with some very good youngsters coming through. Tremendous depth at College, could swap the C and D age group teams with no real noticable difference, tempted to say that same about B and C.

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8 May, 2013 at 12:00
#166 badboy

@rugbyfan: Can you post those ranking remember you did sometime last year.

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8 May, 2013 at 11:04
#165 rugbyfan

@Gungets Tuft: A point of interest a raking done some years ago for the period 1922-2000 on a points basis out of 10 only 6 schools finished with a average 8,5 or more and they were: Grey College/Paarl Boys High/Paarl Gym/Queens/Grey PE/MC

That will give you the best historical background and two of those schools are in the WC so i think they always been good also Bishops came in at just under 8,5

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8 May, 2013 at 10:51
#164 Vleis

@Gungets Tuft:

I believe that St Alban’s had a cracking match v College on Saturday – both teams were unbeaten at the festival.

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8 May, 2013 at 10:25
#163 Gungets Tuft

@Gungets Tuft: OK, thats horrible. Perhaps Beet can use his Tippex in correction mode rather than Nanny mode and make sense of it. But it does rather club the notion of Wynberg being an undisputed dominant force in hockey. Remember that during that time KZN schools have played and beaten College – not much, but it has happened, I remember about 4 years ago DHS beat a very good College hockey side home and away.

The situation is no different to the national rankings for rugby – there is no linear equation that can rank team 100% – hockey is even more difficult due to the highly technical and strategic nature of the game – in a 3-way round robin each team could beat each other. This could be due to one teams big strength (short corners for instance) being neutralised by another teams excellent shortie defence. Probably more so in hockey than any other sport I know. As they say, if hockey was easy everyone would play, but it isn’t, so they invented soccer and rugby

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8 May, 2013 at 09:03
#162 Gungets Tuft

@CapeMan: Just to clear up the hockey stats, hope the formatting is OK. Wynberg, played 12 (from 1975), won 10, lost 2 :

P W(by College) Drawn Lost (by College) Biggest win/loss first played
Wynberg 12 10 0 2 5-1/0-4 1975
Bishops 7 4 3 0 3-0/- 1983
Rondebosch 4 3 0 1 8-1/0-5 1985
SACS 1 1 0 0 4-0/- 1987

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8 May, 2013 at 08:51
#161 Vleis

@CapeMan: Yes, on reflection I think that the Cape is very likely tops at rugby – but no thanks to the CT schools though!

I doubt that there is a provincial school tournament in footy, as club and academy football is where it is at. There are many top clubs and academies in Gauteng, but only a few in the Cape. These boys graduate to one of the eight Gauteng teams in the PSL, whereas your boys graduate to the solitary Ajax, who are fighting relegation. Sorry mate, if you are going to argue football, then you have lost all credibility

Let’s agree to disagree re waterpolo, but my cash would all be on Gauteng – for starters, St John’s College are the Grey Bloem of waterpolo…with the difference that their toughest matches are against other Gauteng teams. Sorry Bog!

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7 May, 2013 at 23:59
#160 CapeMan

@Vleis: gauteng, waterpolo?!!!nope. Il give you rowing but thats it. Youre missing the point here. I said as a province. In terms of provincial tournaments. Dont argue rugby because WP has the most finals wins at CW. The two Gauteng schools being in the final has no bearing on has won the most finals. Thats just one year. Do you know for a fact that Gauteng has won the most finals in the provincial tournaments for footy?? WP for most sports are almost always in the finals.

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7 May, 2013 at 23:28
#159 Vleis

@CapeMan: I definitely would not select the Cape as the best sporting province. The Cape (i.e. including Boland schools in Paarl & Stellies) are very good at rugby, but rugby is nevertheless a mixed bag – last year’s CW final was between two Gauteng teams. Rowing is clearly Gauteng; waterpolo is very likely Gauteng; hockey is a mixed bag; swimming is clearly KZN; athletics is clearly Gauteng; football is clearly Gauteng; although six of the current top seven ranked cricket teams are from Gauteng, I would still say that cricket is a mixed bag too.

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7 May, 2013 at 23:16
#158 CapeMan

@Grasshopper: that point about us being the oldest province in the country is utterly irrelevant since provincial tournaments only started in the 1960s in schools. Therefore this topic is purely based on the last 50years. I don’t have the time either but maybe some of our pensioners can dig up the facts

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7 May, 2013 at 22:05
#157 Grasshopper

@CapeMan: based on overall history, maybe because the Cape is the oldest province. Based on the last 50 years, not sure. Would be interesting to do some research and prove which province is overall best at schools sport. I would do it but don’t have the time……

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7 May, 2013 at 21:38
#156 CapeMan

@Grasshopper: Grassy, are you. Honestly going to contest that WP are not the best sporting province in the country?! As I said, if you add up all the sporting weeks, from rugby to cricket, to polo to tennis, just everything. Who would you say has won more tournaments more than any other province if you were a betting man?? Surely it would be WP..that’s what I think. This is not a fact but that’s what I think…

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7 May, 2013 at 21:27
#155 Grasshopper

@CapeMan: I think you will find DHS, KES and College might dispute the no1 cricket ranking and maybe the hockey too. Grey PE must be up there too for hockey. Anyway, all great schools! I have actually been a little disappointed with the gees and war cries down here in the Cape, been to quite a few derbies here now and not one comes close to a KZN one, maybe the later starting time in KZN creates more build up and crowds arrive after lunch. This midday kickoff in the Cape is just dumb, it takes away from the atmosphere and reduces crowds. Not sure if the Cape can claim to be the best at sport in general that is a huge claim, what is the evidence? I know schools up in Gauteng like Garsfontein, Menlopark, Kempton Park, Affies etc are untouchable in athletics, Westville in KZN are by far the best swimming school….

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7 May, 2013 at 21:12
#154 CapeMan

@GimOB: is that 859 boys for Drotsdy? if that’s just boys, they have a huge amount of pupils if you add the girls to that mix

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7 May, 2013 at 21:02
#153 CapeMan

@Grasshopper: Wynberg historically would have to be number 1 in hockey and cricket. To be honest, the competetion in the southern suburbs is soo close that it changes according to how strong that year is. What I can say grassy is that WP is a province has won more provincial tournaments as a whole than any other province. I don’t people can deny that WP is the strongest province in sports in the country. As many of you are advocates for kzn so am I for the Cape. Hence the name CapeMan

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7 May, 2013 at 20:58
#152 Ploegskaar

@GimOB: Hopefully Landbou is leaving space for the 2 Bellville u/16 props, 6 flank and fullback, as well as the Tygerberg u/16 hooker. Of all the non-recruiting schools they are not recruiting the worst. Add the Bellville u/14 lock and Stellenberg u/15 prop in there for good measure and they are getting closer to capacity

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7 May, 2013 at 19:03
#151 GimOB

FWIW (For What It’s Worth):
1. Paul Roos 1191 boys
2. Boishaai 870
3. Drostdy 859
4. Wynberg 854
5. Rondebosch 807
6. Outeniqua 773
7. SACS 758
8. Bishops 752
9. Paarl Gim 550
10. Oakdale 395
11. Landbou 339

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7 May, 2013 at 18:51
#150 Grasshopper

@CapeMan: I think you will find all the rankings are flawed, cricket and hockey even worse as most of the schools don’t play each other. At least in rugby many of the top schools do play each other so some sort of ranking can be done. Cricket rankings is like trying to herd cats, no chance…..far too many factors/variables etc. Waterpolo there are numerous tournaments including SACS which helps show who is tops. SACS, St Johns, Reddam, St Stithians, KES and Clifton in KZN are always up there. Glenwood too are in the top in 10 hockey and tennis, probably top 10 for athletics and top 20 in cricket and rugby, so they could be considered one of the top all round schools, however I have to be honest Westville with their academics and sport are probably the most all round in KZN with College and Glenwood in hot pursuit. Not sure about the Cape, but the 4 Southern suburb schools seem jack of all trades master of none, except for waterpolo of course….

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7 May, 2013 at 18:02
#149 CapeMan

Meant to say those sports aren’t team sports.

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7 May, 2013 at 17:54
#148 CapeMan

@BoishaaiPa: hahaha…those sports on team sports. Well that’s also. Debatable. If you had to make a springbok 15, only, carel du plessis would stand a chance of making it. The rest..na..Percy Montgomery would be in the staring 15. I don’t think a boys high player has won a world cup final :mrgreen:. Maybe in 50years you can dream of beating us in waterpolo :mrgreen:. Besides Rugby, one would say the saschoolsports rankings are fairly accurate in the other schools BHP. Also in your ranking, there are teams that are ahead of us that we have beaten. Your ranking is flawed as well.

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7 May, 2013 at 17:51
#147 BOG

@BoishaaiPa: And your swimming pool is the size of a rugby field, especially in winter.

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7 May, 2013 at 15:59
#146 BoishaaiPa

@CapeMan: If you believe anything of the rankings on SA Schoolsports site you are more gullible than I thought!….Paarl Boys is a regular Top 10 in tennis and Athletics and rugby..there is 3 sports already!…Was also rated No 1 in Squash in 2011….that is 4….We only started Waterpolo this year…give us a few years and we will kick southern ass soon!..

Ole Percy, Frank Mellish and Cecil Moss is the only real players of note that SACS produced, at least they played more than 1 test! ….Have you heard about Mannetjies Roux?…, Boy Louw?.., Piet Spiere Du Toit?…Fanie Louw?…Theuns Briers?…Ryk van Schoor?…Carel Du Plessis?…Corne Krige?…All famous legendary Boks…All Boishaai Old Boys!

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7 May, 2013 at 15:35
#145 CapeMan

@BoishaaiPa: that’s not true. It wasn’t just SACS and Bishops they were choosing from. How do you explain other schools having boks from the early 1900s. Low blow BHP. Trying to discredit our boks. Are you talking about cricket when you say 4years? I can’t remeber the last time we lost to Paarl boys in cricket in 50 plus overs. I’m not going to count T20. I don’t think we plyaed you guys in the T20 last year but I commend your cricket team from last year becaus I do hear they were a great team. We are always in the top 10 or atleast top 20 for cricket. The can’t be said about Paarl boys. In rugby its the opposite as Paarl boys are the power houses in rugby. All I’m saying is that when it comes to being more complete in all sports, the southern suburbs and paul roos are far more well rounded. The southern suburb schools have about 800-850 boys. Our boys also play two sports or more. Oh, did I not mention how great our two springboks that we produced after ww2 were. Percy Montgomery. Enough said. Gimmie, that’s no excuse as St Andrews have less boys than you and they play all the sports we do. You guys just concentrate much much more on rugby, which isn’t a bad thing. You guys are very strong at rugby. No one disputed that, but you will never find Paarl Gim or Paarl boys in the top 20 for 3sports or more. That honour goes to the. Southern suburb schools and paul roos in the Cape. According to saschoolsports we are 4th in hockey, Wynberg 1st, Bosch 5th, Paul Roos 6th and Bishops 9th. In cricket SACS & Paul Roos are both 10th, Bosch 2nd, Wynberg 14th and Bishops 23rd. Both the Paarl schools are 32 and 31st respectiveliy. In rugby Paarl Gim is 1st, Wynberg 10th, Bosch 13th, Paarl Boys 15th, Bishops 20, Paul Roos 28th and SACS 29th. According to sa school news SACS are 6th in waterpolo, Wynberg 7th, Bishops 9th and Paul Roos 11th. Tjoppa, you talk a lot for someone who won’t say which school they went to. Don’t worry we won’t judge you

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7 May, 2013 at 14:58
#144 Vleis

@Gungets Tuft: That’s what the Clifton dad said, or perhaps that there were 100 Grade 8s this year. 50 boys per grade will make a prep school competitive, but not a high school, which is why they need to get larger numbers in the latter.

Remember also that Clifton’s high school is very new – the first matric class was in 2006! As a member of a Board of Governors of a new private school, I can tell you that life is very tricky in the early years. You need to increase numbers as a top priority, as the school runs at a loss until a certain critical mass is reached. As such, one needs to be slightly less choosy re who you admit. Then, as numbers start to increase, you need to “box clever” re marketing strategy and where you provide the odd scholarship. Apart from academics, an obvious starting point is swimming, as you only need a few really good swimmers per grade to produce a very competitive team, plus they help with water-polo. The next step is often cricket, as you only need about four good players for a team to be reasonably competitive. While the small schools enjoy their rugby and have their own derby days, it usually takes decades for them to become competitive. Trinityhouse High is an exception to the rule, as they beat KES by 11 earlier this year despite only having about 350 boys and being about 15 years old.

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7 May, 2013 at 14:54
#143 Vleis

@Queenian: St Andrews has more than 450 boys now, but they do not offer any sports scholarships, as I found out when my son applied a few years ago. They do however, have many closed scholarships. These are general scholarships awarded to boys who attended specific prep schools – e.g. two for St Peter’s prep, one for Selborne prep, etc. I suppose they could choose the odd sporty boy that applies from said schools, but that is very limiting.

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7 May, 2013 at 14:06
#142 BoishaaiPa

@CapeMan: Just a pity you only produced two Boks post..WW2!..Bulk of the others were in the 1800’s and early 1900 when there were only 2 schools to pick Boks from..Bishops and yourselfs!..Not a true reflection of Bok contributers at all…BTW, my son played 4 years 1st team for Boishaai and never lost to SACS..

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7 May, 2013 at 13:20
#141 BOG

GCB have 1200, about 40 less than Affies?

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7 May, 2013 at 12:59
#140 Ploegskaar

@Queenian: That, and only having one winter sport

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7 May, 2013 at 11:26
#139 Queenian

@Ploegskaar: Boarders is what its about look at Marlow 277 boys with 267 being boarders you cannot beat that.

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7 May, 2013 at 11:14
#138 Ploegskaar

@Umtata: That’s not much to work with, puts their achievements in perspective. I see Oakdale has just under 400 learners as well, so good on all these Farmers, although living and working together 24/7 is a definite plus for them.

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7 May, 2013 at 11:11
#137 Queenian

@Umtata: Also Selborne with there 200 boys more than Dale/Queens should make for them been alot stronger.

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7 May, 2013 at 11:04
#136 Queenian

@Umtata: Also remember St Andrews with 408 boys does well for there size ( Although you could say it is 408 hand picked boys )

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7 May, 2013 at 11:02
#135 Queenian

@Umtata: You must also remember this which is the biggest factor Boarders – Queens 1983 547 Dale 1983 348/ Queens 2013 171 Dale 2013 119

There in the biggest problem

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7 May, 2013 at 11:00
#134 Queenian

@Umtata: Dale enrolment for 2013 was 489 boys

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7 May, 2013 at 10:58
#133 Queenian

@Umtata: For interest sake 1983 Queens had 818 boys Dale 706 and Seleborne 743 and Grey PE 867

So Queens and Dale have changed dramitically Selborne and Grey PE stayed about the same.

Grey PE numbers for this year 946.

Dale highest number as far as i am aware was 1984 with 711

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7 May, 2013 at 10:57
#132 Umtata

@Queenian: I’m sure they are increasing their numbers yearly, they do really well with those small numbers.

Dale College. 485(not sure)(had about 900 30years ago)
Kingswood 220
Grey High 900
Selborne College 750

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7 May, 2013 at 10:52
#131 Queenian

@Umtata: Marlow have 277 boys this year so they do really well.

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7 May, 2013 at 10:37
#130 Gungets Tuft

@Vleis: I would be amazed if there are 100 Gr9 boys. I don’t know where they would put 1200 boys if that becomes the norm across the grades. Perhaps they are aiming at 600 in the high school and fewer at primary.

Also interesting that they currently have vacancies at Grade 10, I know 2 boys that left College to go there and there was no problem with admission. One of them not exactly a stellar student so it was not as if they were going to manufacture a spot for him. Still, interesting, will ask around.

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7 May, 2013 at 10:34
#129 Umtata

@Ploegskaar: I think Marlow have 260 boys only

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7 May, 2013 at 10:33
#128 Maroon

@Ploegskaar: sien jou daar! As ek my youngster saamnring gaan ons definitief swem! Lol

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7 May, 2013 at 10:31
#127 Ploegskaar

@Maroon: Fortunately the Farm drains well nowadays, but hoping for a dry day. You will find me on the small stand in the corner next to the club house, probably in a black shirt, with a youngster in pink rain boots not too far away, trying to swim in the “leivoor” next to the field

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7 May, 2013 at 10:07
#126 Ploegskaar

@Queenian: Think they may feature, but same applies to Oakdale, Marlow and co-ed schools like Paarl Gim that only have 500 boys I suppose.

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7 May, 2013 at 09:58
#125 Maroon

@Ploegskaar: the Farm is always a tough venue. We normally have the bad luck of rainy weather as well when play there:) maybe we can catch up for a cold one that day?

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7 May, 2013 at 09:58
#124 Ploegskaar

@Maroon: Should have put a smiley face with that post, its called a chirp, and if you follow me elsewhere you would have noted that I am one of the few that always wish both our Paarl neighbours, PRG and the Cape Schools well before games and likewise congratulate them on a win afterwards. I just honestly enjoy taking a stab at the establishment in general, which by implication includes Stellenbosch, PRG en Maties, seriously without malicious intent, but more for the predictable reaction. Looking forward to a good game on the Farm in a couple of weeks’ time between two though WC Barbarian sides !

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7 May, 2013 at 09:53
#123 Vleis

@Gungets Tuft: At the ISRF u15 festival at Hilton, I had a chat to a parent of a Clifton boy. Believe it or not, he said that they have some 100 boys in his son’s grade, so the school is obviously growing at a rapid rate.

Pretoria Boys has some 1500 to 1600 boys, while St Alban’s has just over 500. St David’s also has just over 500, while St John’s has some 750 and Saints just under 800. I believe that KES has some 1200 to 1300. I think that Jeppe has over 1000 and Parktown about 800 to 900.

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7 May, 2013 at 09:53
#122 Gungets Tuft

@rugbyfan: There are only senior schools. College and Northwood are from Grade 8 – 12.

Perhaps you are thinking of Northlands Primary – it is a separate school and does feed Northwood to an extent.

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7 May, 2013 at 09:42
#121 flyparent

@HORSEFLY NO.1: Yes, North Durban Trials were yesterday at George Campbell. I wasn’t there so don’t know how it went. I think the boys will be told today who has made it so far. I believe Dylan Bryan from DHS and Ross Muil from Northwood were both unavailable to play at trials due to injury. Hope they both get another oppertunity as both very talented players.

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7 May, 2013 at 09:39
#120 Queenian

@Ploegskaar: Would be interesting if Boys numbers could be worked into the ranking some how i am sure Boland Landbou would then be in the Top10 each year.

What they could do is say schools who have up to 400 boys they could add on .75 school with 400/600 boys plus .50 schools with 600/900 minus .50 and schools with 900+ minus .75 that would making things interesting.

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7 May, 2013 at 09:38
#119 Maroon

Paul Roos have 1,100 boys. In my days we were 640 strong.

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7 May, 2013 at 09:34
#118 Queenian

@rugbyfan: Queens have 576 boys (nearl 200 less than 20 years ago)

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7 May, 2013 at 09:33
#117 Maroon

@Ploegskaar: Ploegskaar, the majority of the Prg pupils reside in Stellenbosch and Somerset West. The boys from Durbanville etc. are there out of choice. We do not, never have and never will, buy players. You are welcome to verify this fact.
It is very clear from your postings that you have a big chip on your shoulder when it comes to Paul Roos. My advise to you is to stop worrying about us. It is obvious that you love schoolboy rugby and that you are fiercely loyal to Landbou and the schools that you sponsor with clothing, but do not let your loyalty cloud your judgement.

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7 May, 2013 at 09:31
#116 rugbyfan

@Gungets Tuft: Is that just the Senior school

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7 May, 2013 at 09:29
#115 Gungets Tuft

@rugbyfan: College is 1175. Was told on the weekend that Northwood is 990.

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7 May, 2013 at 09:23
#114 rugbyfan

Would be interesting to know how many boys schools have in there senior schools i know GCB is around the 1000 mark how many do others have?

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7 May, 2013 at 08:46
#113 Gungets Tuft

@gimmie: Don’t need a lot of kids for waterpolo. Clifton are in the top 3 consistetly, number 1 last year, they have 550 boys from Grade1 – 12. Most water-polo players are also rugby players, check out Kearsney who compete across the board, rugby, cricket, hockey, even paddling and the arts, and they have just 600 boys.

Just saying.

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7 May, 2013 at 08:41
#112 gimmie

@capeman, Gym, with 550 boys has to compete against boys school with up to 1200 boys. We simply do not have the numbers to also compete in sports like Waterpolo..I am not convinced with your statements that you will beat BoIshaai 9 times out of ten in cricket…looking forward to our game at SACS, always a pleasure visiting your school. We had a tough game against you last year. As stated elsewhere, I think sacs, Wynberg, Bishops and Rondebosch are all very competitive this year.

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7 May, 2013 at 07:09
#111 Tjoppa

@CapeMan: 22nd in rugby. But then you are not a top school at all. All these other “sports” is just bull. Why don’t you take up Voortrekker Dans and I am sure you will always be number one. This is a rugby blog. Let us keep it clean and sensible.

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7 May, 2013 at 05:40
#110 Tjoppa

@Ploegskaar: Vat hom flaffie. I think BL has the forwards to make it very difficult. And the flyhalf will keep them going forward.

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7 May, 2013 at 05:37
#109 CapeMan

And no Gimmie I am not counting sevens. I am counting springboks in the 15man game. You should research your facts.

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7 May, 2013 at 00:51
#108 CapeMan

Meant rowing is in the top 3, not rugby.

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7 May, 2013 at 00:49
#107 CapeMan

@gimmie: 29 springboks..www.sacsrugby.com. When it comes to boys schools,Gim is a powerhouse in rugby and great in athletics but as for the other sports, you guys don’t even compete with the rest of us. Your girls are tops though. You guys don’t row or play waterpolo.@Maroon: We just beat you 2-1 in hockey. We are 6th in the country in hockey. As for waterpolo, you know our prowess. We are 6th in hockey, 10th in cricket, 3rd in waterpolo and 22nd in rugby. Our rugby has also been in the top 3 in the first 8 for the past 5 years. Paarl boys had a really good cricket side last year but we beat them nine times out of 10 in cricket. It is rather one sided. Sorry Gimmie, but Paarl Gim aren’t nearly as good as the southern suburb schools when it comes to a wide variety of sports for boys. You guys are super in rugby and really good in athletics. Paul Roos are a very well rounded school and they compete with the southern suburb schools in all sports.

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7 May, 2013 at 00:48
#106 Ploegskaar

@Maroon: If by northern suburbs you refer to all the boys from Durbanville, Bellville and Brackenfell that go to S’Bosch in the cattle trucks in the morning, then yes, not too shabby!

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6 May, 2013 at 23:48
#105 Ploegskaar

@gimmie: Injuries and lack of depth due to small numbers playing havoc as always, but they may cause an upset or two this season. I always tend to think they are overachieving by the way, but that’s just my unbiased opinion

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6 May, 2013 at 23:46
#104 Maroon

Nr1 in tennis, 10 in cricket, 6 in hockey, currently top 20 in rugby (normally top 10), top 10 in waterpolo. Not bad for a nortern suburb school.

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6 May, 2013 at 23:36
#103 gimmie

I know Ploegie, The WP referees,are top class. We are blessed! I must say though both KERF and Wildeklawer had outstanding referees. Great initiative from SA referees association to blood so many new young refs. Why are your team underperforming?

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6 May, 2013 at 23:36
#102 Ploegskaar

@gimmie: You can have the rugby this year, but I see your Premier hockey girls and netball team already lost to Stellenberg this year, and your premier boys lost to Fairmont. Your netball team has also not won an inter schools against Girls’ High for 2 years running. By the way, you will of course get a fair game oppie Plaas, no worries there.

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6 May, 2013 at 23:27
#101 gimmie

Capeman, as for the best all round schools in the country, I think you are mistaken. BoIshaai won the national 20 over cricket last year and Gym has excelled in athletics over the past 40years, not to mention hockey and Netball.

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6 May, 2013 at 22:50
#100 gimmie

@capeman, it cannot be, are you counting 7s etc. gym has had about 11 Boks the last 12 years. Apart from Monty, I can’t remember one from SACS. Please assist..

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6 May, 2013 at 22:45
#99 CapeMan

@Grasshopper: Percy Montgomery. Paul Delport and Kyle Brown of the blitzbokke are also SACS old boys.

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6 May, 2013 at 20:48
#98 Tjoppa

@Gemaskerdesopbeen: Bedoel jy tussen die Cherries en Grey 1

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6 May, 2013 at 20:39
#97 Grasshopper

@CapeMan: wow, pretty spectacular! Who was the last one? Yeah but logistics will mean that wont happen unfortunately….

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6 May, 2013 at 20:33
#96 CapeMan

@Grasshopper: yes, 29 springboks in rugby. Not too shabby hey?! 8). Would have loved to see the southern suburb schools play the top 3 kzn schools on a regular basis.

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6 May, 2013 at 20:21
#95 Grasshopper

@CapeMan: Glenwood, Westville and College to me are the most well rounded schools in KZN and on a par with the Southern suburbs schools from what I have seen. Glenwood traditionally strong in tennis, surfing, softball and pretty good at all other sport. Westville have been the top swimming school in the country and College for cricket, rugby and hockey. Watch Glenwood hockey this year, dark horses! All 3 are usual top 30 rugby schools in SA. SACS 29 Springboks? Do you mean all sport or rugby? Unfortunately I missed the Bishops vs Boishaai game, sounded close though….,good for Bishops after their nightmare 2012!

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6 May, 2013 at 20:03
#94 Djou

@Bog: Yes, an amazing history. I very much enjoyed it. Lots of my mates in JBM at UFS attended Grey. During my time as a student a very young and still u.20 Coen Pieterse played for Free State, whilst Kees Stevens captained the FS u.20 side. Lots of other Grey guys, very well mannered and an example for the rest of us. Not that we were angels all the time. Nevertheless, it was great fun – and yes we studied … sometimes!

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6 May, 2013 at 19:45
#93 CapeMan

@Grasshopper: In my opinion, the southern suburbs are the most all rounded schools in the country. Year in and year out you see Bishops, Bosch, Wynberg & SACS in the top 20 for cricket, waterpolo, rugby and hockey. According to saschoolsports SACS, Bishops, Wynberg and Bosch are in the top 20 for cricket, hockey & waterpolo. Wynberg and bosch are in the top 20 in rugby and Bishops and SACS are just outside the top 20 this year. We. Are also powerfull in rowing. If you look at the first 8 results over the past 5years, SACS is rated amongst the top 3 in the country. As. Kzn people will rate Maritzburg as the best hockey side in the country historically and you guys wouldn’t be wrong but I would say Wynberg have a strong claim to that title. Wynberg have always been incredibly strong in hockey. Bosch are also incredibly strong at hockey. They just beat Maritzburg 5-1. Bishops were the best side in the country last year. They were undefeated. We are 6th in the country this year according to saschoolsports. SACS has produced 29 springboks to date and I think Bishops have 34. I have always had a respect for Maritzburg college in kzn when it comes to sports. It seems Glenwood deserve that accolade as well. Westville have upped their game in kzn as well. Good at all major sports as well. I can’t recall us ever playing Glenwood. We never seem to play kzn sides at festivals for some bizarre reason. Grassy, how did you find the Bishops vs Paarl Boys game? I’m sure you were smilling from ear to ear when you guys beat them.

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6 May, 2013 at 19:44
#92 Grasshopper

@GreenBlooded: bishops vs SACS in 1862 is claimed to be the first but records state it being in 1873. Glenwood vs SACS, wow going to need to ask Oros that one! I know in 2003 Glenwood’s Under16a’s beat SACS….

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6 May, 2013 at 19:38
#91 GreenBlooded

@Grasshopper: Good question – has there ever been a match between Glenwood and SACS? As the oldest school in SA – when did they start playing rugby? I am trying to see this in the context of the match between College and Hermannsburg which is described on the College website.

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6 May, 2013 at 19:20
#90 Grasshopper

@CapeMan: no worries, thanks for the compliment. I would love to know if and when Glenwood have played SACS. From a KZN perspective we all know the 4 famous Southern suburb sides, Bishops, SACS, Rondebosch and Wynberg! Their culture and traditions similar to us KZN sides, if it were not for the 1,700km distance we would be playing those sides in all sports annually. For me when I think of SACS, I think Waterpolo, Wynberg for cricket, Bishops for rugby and Rondebosch not bad at all sport….

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6 May, 2013 at 19:10
#89 BOG

@Djou: Very well mannered indeed, but all their supporters, clearly, did not enjoy the benefit of an education there. Some, undoubtedly, are “anti GCB refugees”, but they seem to move around. On the GCB site, you can find a pictorial history between the two schools since they started competing back in 1953

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6 May, 2013 at 18:56
#88 CapeMan

@Grasshopper: Now that’s what I call a complete answer. Great article. I think I’ll give Glenwood a bit more respect after that convincing article.

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6 May, 2013 at 18:55
#87 Djou

@Bog: Yes, his hospital/Zuma year. On another topic, I am indeed looking forward to GCB beating Affies by a comfortable margin. The Affies lads seem to be amazing kids, not so much some of their supporters.

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6 May, 2013 at 18:46
#86 star

@ Horsy- I think the Highway trials for U16 and U18 are tomorrow on Bowdens.

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6 May, 2013 at 17:27
#85 HORSEFLY NO.1

@Queenian:
Definitely. Would love for them to play the top KZN schools in the age group. Do Selborne retain most of the boys from Prep because they seem to be really good. Think its the only school DPHS has trouble of. Beating year in-year out.

@KZN bloggers

Are KZN Rugby Trials today? Round 1

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6 May, 2013 at 16:44
#84 Grasshopper

@Capeman and Greenblooded, yeas Glenwood are certainly not new kids on the block, we have been playing rugga since 1912, with rivalry with Hilton starting in 1915, College in 1921, DHS 1922 and Michaelhouse in 1932. Over about 100 years of rugby Glenwood are about 5th in the province behind much older schools in Hilton, Michaelhouse, DHS and College. But based on the last 10 years they are No1 in KZN. Glenwood has produced 6 rugby Springboks (ranked about 17th in SA), over 50 Sharks/Natal players, 6 SA Schools caps and over 150 KZN schools players. In terms of pupil numbers we have had over 1000 boys since the 80’s at least. Here is a little article I wrote a couple of years ago to give you some more info on Glenwood rugby; http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2011/11/18/the-green-machine%E2%80%99s-rapid-rise-to-rugby-power-since-2000/

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6 May, 2013 at 15:46
#83 BOG

@Djou: I thought he finished last year or is he doing his hospital year now.

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6 May, 2013 at 14:18
#82 Djou

@Bog: Yes, still nurturing an injury and finishing his studies this year. Agree, he can easily switch to LF. Really hope Wegner will come back to Cheetahs and not Sharks or Stormers.

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6 May, 2013 at 14:12
#81 BOG

@Djou: Is he injured at the moment or just out of favour? One can understand that his rugby had to take a back seat, but now that he has completed his medical studies, Im sure that it will change. And I think that he could be a useful LF as well.(Like Lappies) As far as Wagner is concerned, he is very young for a tight forward, so going to Europe now, while in the process of maturing, is perhaps a wise thing to do. Then coming back, hopefully to the Cheetahs, when he is ready.(for S15)@Gemaskerdesopbeen: Moet Dries vd Wal nie dan intree nie? Daar is baie murmureringe wat merkbaar is. Daar bestaan altyd die gevaar waar afrigters van buite kom en nie vertoud is met die etos nie. Hoe ookal, hulle is darem al lank daar

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6 May, 2013 at 14:07
#80 CapeMan

@GreenBlooded: Lets just say, us people in the south didnt really know Glenwood. We knew Maritzburg and DHS as the two top sporting schools in kzn, but since your rugby has been formidable over the past decade we have noticed Glenwood so much more.

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6 May, 2013 at 13:37
#79 Djou

@Bog: Yes you are right. Waltie Vermeulen was the year before. Have so much respect for him. Saw him about three years ago doing 100m sprints (morning, afternoon and evening) during the December holidays at the coast of Reebok. His workout inspired all the 9 – 11 year olds so much, they started doing the sprints with him. Long after they tired and only watched on, he kept going. They however pitched up every day doing the sprints with him.
Pity though about Carl Wegner leaving the country – he surely can become a great lock.

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6 May, 2013 at 13:31
#78 Gemaskerdesopbeen

My informante se dat een van die probleme is dat daar te veel “chiefs” onder die coaches is.

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6 May, 2013 at 12:18
#77 BOG

@Gemaskerdesopbeen: Ek hou nie daarvan om vuil wasgoed uit te hang nie, maar jy is nie die eerste een wat se dat daar spelers in die eerstes is wie dit nie verdien nie. Een van GCB se uitstaande eienskappe was nog altyd hulle onpartydigheid teenoor die seuns, ongeag wie pappa of mamma is. Ek hoop werklik dat dit nog steeds die geval is. Ek weet nie, want ek is ver verwyder vd span en Bloem. Wat gaan aan? Ek neem nou aan dat jy n GCB ondersteuner is deur dit wat jy gese het.

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6 May, 2013 at 12:12
#76 GreenBlooded

@CapeMan: Probably those numbers for more than 30 years. I was there from 1984 to 1988 and there were certainly those types of numbers then. I guess for a few years before that also. Hopper – when was the new block built? I guess that is where the increase in numbers would have started.

Glenwood’s prowess on the rugby field has had it’s up’s and down’s. Certainly while I was at school, College gave us regular hidings but I don’t think it has always been that way. DHS was more even-stevens. Hopper is a stat-man – he can give you all the figures. Glenwood has always been a well respected opponent in KZN. We have upgraded to ‘formidible’ status in the last 10 years.

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6 May, 2013 at 11:13
#75 Gemaskerdesopbeen

Laanklaas n Grey pak so sien afjop!
Onthou as jy dik is, is jy nie noodwendig sterk nie.
Daai scrummie ,Sanders, moet hom gedra, jy “mock” nie jou teenstanders soos hy gedoen het nie. Hy moet eerder aan sy passes beide kante toe werk!
Duane Wessels uiteindelik in die backline waar hy hoort, kort net vir Jordaan langs hom dan gaan die dinge mooi loop.
Waar is Jano Botha? Hy is n mannetjie wat nie gescrum word nie!
Fulback in die agterlyn? Nie gewerk nie.
As ons Affies gaan speel die naweek,sal die coaches moet saamwerk,of hulle dit laaik of nie!
Onthou,dit gaan oor die skool,nie oor die individue nie.

Ons hou julle dop!

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6 May, 2013 at 11:01
#74 CapeMan

@GreenBlooded: @Greenwood: I know for the past few years you guys have been up there but Glenwood only started in the mid 2000s to be a good rugby school to my knowledge atleast. To be honest, the schools that us people in the south recognized as the top kzn schools in rugby were Maritzburg and DHS. I didn’t know Glenwood have had those kind of numbers for 30 years. I always thought it was just Maritzburg in kzn. Obviously since that victory in 2006 against Grey bloem, we took notice of you guys. You guys always point out that Glenwood used to be the whipping boys against Maritzburg and DHS in the past.

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6 May, 2013 at 10:38
#73 Playa

Ludz, Queenian, QC86…and of you going to the Kudu-Baboona game today? Score updates please.

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6 May, 2013 at 10:00
#72 Greenwood

Cape Man

to add to what i wrote earlier – Glenwood is also a Boarding School , about 280 Boarders
this also seems to help rugby at the school – the boarders tend to play more sport after school than the “day dogs” (that’s what the boarders call the day boys)

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6 May, 2013 at 09:14
#71 Greenwood

Cape Man

about 4 years ago Glenwood was ranked 2nd in SA after Grey College and featured in the top 10 / top 20 regularly and have been top in Kzn quite a few times over the past decade

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6 May, 2013 at 08:50
#70 BOG

@Queenian: Your memory? Well, lets first debate that No, you could be right. If you look under “Grey College Rugby Results Overview”, you will see that 1967 s record is not complete, but it does give the stats- Played 15, drew 1 and lost 1. They beat Dale 11-9. But with all due respect to Border schools now, those were the golden years of school rugby on the Border. But not withstanding the stats, I still recall the team as brilliant. The kids were built stronger then. They were not worried about age. There were 2 21 year olds in that side, Thabo Wepener and Waldo Schooling. They were in the military when they heard that they had failed matric and first finished that before returning to school the following year( For the younger generation here, “failed” means that when you did not get enough marks, around 50%, then you had failed and needed to repeat the year)

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6 May, 2013 at 07:59
#69 Queenian

@BOG: Remember 1967 they Drew with Queens boet if my memory is correct.

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6 May, 2013 at 07:08
#68 Queenian

@HORSEFLY NO.1: Selborne Under15A must be one of the best in the country.

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6 May, 2013 at 07:04
#67 BOG

@Ploegskaar: Is jy seker van Affies 2002? Dan het hulle n baie af dag gehad teen GCB wie hulle 46-21 gewen het. Nog n uitstaande span, en nou gaan ek baie ver terug, was Grey se 1967 span waarin die Snyman broers, Dawie en Jackie, gespeel het. Oom Dawie en Jackie vir meeste van julle

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6 May, 2013 at 04:42
#66 BOG

@Djou: Sover ek kan onthou, (en dit raak elke dag korter) nee. Ek weet dat Pieter Labuschagne was slot toe. En was Carl Wagner nie die ander slot nie? Ander lede van 2007 span was 1) Harris 2)Herne 6) Pienaar 7 Prinsloo 8) Adriaan Thesinger 9) Muller

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6 May, 2013 at 04:29
#65 GreenBlooded

@CapeMan: Glenwood have always been good at rugby. Over the last 10 years we have been excellent. It is quite easy to discern a school that achieves results only through recruiting – just look at the A team results compared to the lower teams. It’s about depth. While Glenwood definitely have a recruiting effort, they also have a state-of-the-art coaching and conditioning setup – the fruits of which can be seen in the results down to the G teams and the fact that the A teams still perform when they have players out due to injury.

Always 1200 boys? Well no. I believe when the school was founded way back in 1910 there were only 26 boys. How far back do you want to go? I think it’s been at around 1200 for at least the last 30 years or so.

Maybe that will do the trick – counting sheep certainly isn’t working.

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6 May, 2013 at 03:02
#64 CapeMan

When did Glenwood start becoming good at rugby?! Is it because of their aggresive recruiting? Was Glenwood always 1200 boys? Hopper, Greenblooded, Greenwood or Cyndi, can you guys elaborate more on this?

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5 May, 2013 at 22:36
#63 Greenwood

Thanks Tjoppa

you sound like a real gentleman – look forwarding reading your comments

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5 May, 2013 at 21:41
#62 Ploegskaar

@BOG: GCB ’87 met Pieter Mulder op heelagter en GCB 2010. PRG in die laat 80’s, Monnas in die vroeg 90’s, Paarl Bois 2000, Affies 2002, Waterkloof 2006, Paarl Gim 2008, Boland Landbou 2009. Maar die beste beslis GCB 2007 en Paarl Gim 2013.

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5 May, 2013 at 19:13
#61 Djou

@Bog: Was Waltie Vermeulen in the 2007 GCB-team?

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5 May, 2013 at 19:02
#60 Tjoppa

@Tjoppa: Meant 2007 sorry Oom.

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5 May, 2013 at 18:54
#59 Tjoppa

@BOG: Must agree best team I have seen. But saying that in context this years Paarl Gym must be close. Never and I mean never saw a team in such control against quality opposition. Waited on Saturday for Klofies to get under their skin. Nothing. Calm and just kept to a game plan they knew and trusted. But BOG yes 2002 Grey team the best I ever seen.

BUT

On best school team ever I do not think it is possible as opponents differ from year to year and it is known that some years in total is not the best. Would be interesting if BHP could compile a list to see what year of matrics resulted in the most provincial players over a period. That could bring us closer to a meaningfull decision.

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5 May, 2013 at 18:54
#58 BOG

En dan natuurlik wat opbrengs van Springbokke betref, die Grey spanne van 1981 en 1987 (Hansie was kaptein) Beide hierdie spanne het elk 5 Springbokke opgelewer

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5 May, 2013 at 18:38
#57 jakkie

@BOG: nee jis bog, moet met jou saamstem, daai span was iets ongeloofliks. Ek het die wedstryd teen paul roos daardie jaar in stellenbosch gekyk en hulle het daai paulroos span uitmekaar gespeel. Dit was een van die mooiste skole rugby games wat ek al ooit gekyk het. Het ook die cravenweek daardie jaar in stellies gaan kyk en vrystaat koo en skouers uitgestaan. Wat dink jy van daai grey spanne van 2002/3/4? Veral 2002 met pienaar, du plessis, andries en adriaan strauss, joe pietersen? Ek was gelukkig om by 2002 grey vs affies te wees, was ook een van die mooiste games.

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5 May, 2013 at 18:36
#56 jakkie

@Tjoppa: tjoppa affies altyd klas! Span wat vir my uitgestaan het was 2002. Pierre spies, derick kuhn, ab de villiers. Dink 2002 was een van daardie jare waar die kompetisie baie hoog was en van die spanne laer op ranglys ander jare se nr.1 n go sou gee.

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5 May, 2013 at 18:32
#55 BOG

@jakkie: As ek voorbarig of windgat voorkom, dan is dit nie die bedoeling nie.Maar die beste skolespan wat ek OOIT gesien het was die 2007 GCB span.En ek volg al dekades rugby- in SA sowel as die buiteland. In daardie span, was oa die Ebersohns(Robert was kaptein) Kyk gerus die video, “Ebersonn Twins” op Youtube George Whitehead(Kings) , Coenie Oosthuizen, Pieter Labuschagne, Boom Prinsloo, Ironies het die SA skole flank, Pienaar verdwyn. Die huidige Cheetah skrumskakel, dink ek, het derdes gespeel. Die VS skolespan was n verswakte Grey span weens obvious redes, maar het steeds die WP met 53-3 in die “finaal” gewen.

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5 May, 2013 at 18:32
#54 jakkie

Boishaai self in 2000!

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5 May, 2013 at 18:29
#53 Tjoppa

@jakkie: No Affies team?

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5 May, 2013 at 18:28
#52 jakkie

@Woltrui: my broers het 1999/2000 eerstespan gespeel en daardie jare, soos ek kan onthou, was die top spanne Affies, boland landbou en Oakdale. Oakdale veral met hulle voorspelers van 1997-2000. Affies was uitstekende span 2000 met Fourie du Preez, Francois Swart, Wynand Olivier. Boland landbou ook daardie jare monster span gehad.

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5 May, 2013 at 18:27
#51 jakkie

@Woltrui: ek stem heeltemal saam. Dit was twee baie goeie spanne, van die bestes wat ek die laaste paar jaar gesien het. As jy bietjie verder teruggaan, die Grey spanne van 2002/3/4 was ook uitstekend skoolspanne. Waterkloof 2006, Grey 2007, Paarl Gim 2008 ook goeie spanne gewees.

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5 May, 2013 at 18:23
#50 Tjoppa

@Greenwood: A read the translation and it is the pits. From now on will blog in English out of respect. Except things needs to be in the Taal.

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5 May, 2013 at 18:05
#49 Woltrui

@jakkie: Goeie vraag Jakkie. Vir my was die Grey Bloem span van 2010 een van die grotes. Johan Goosen en Jan Serfontein, hy was toe in graad 11, was in die span. Hulle het ondermeer n sterk Affies span met 26-6 in Pretoria geklop. Die Grey Bloem span waarin die Eberson broers gespeel het was ook verwoed.

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5 May, 2013 at 17:55
#48 jakkie

Elke jaar word spanne ge-rate en top20’s gerangskik, maar ek is van mening dat die kwaliteit rugby, kompetisie en talent elke jaar van ‘n ander gehalte is, hetsy beter of swakker. byvoorbeeld ‘n span wat een jaar 4 of 5de le, sal dalk n nr. 1 van ‘n vroeer jaargroep gewen het. in ag geneem die spelers word elke jaar groter en moontlik sterker word en die game wat ook voortdurend verander, watter skoolspanne is na julle mening, die beste nog in die laaste 5-10 jaar?

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5 May, 2013 at 17:37
#47 Greenwood

A tip here

To all the “souties” like myself who battle with Afrikaans — on my computer if i Right Click whilst reading text (in this blog) it offers a “Translate to English option”

this is great , so now I can fully understand what our fellow Afrikaans blogger friends are saying

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5 May, 2013 at 17:05
#46 Tjoppa

@Oom Kaspaas: Ek persoonlik dink dit is ‘n jammerte dat die nuwe reels daar is. Die volgende gaan seker wees dat die vleuels om die knieee vasgebind word. Maar moet se Monnas het steeds gewys die skrum is ‘n belangrike deel van die game. Die seuns sal aanpas en dan gaan ons maar weer vort. Dink egter hulle probeer een van die groot geheime van rugby verwyder ter wille van…

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5 May, 2013 at 07:49
#45 Tjoppa

@Ploegskaar: Ek het die voorreg gehad om saam ‘n wyse ou oom, wat bekend was vir talent identifisering, ‘n hele tydjie deur te bring. Ek vra toe vir hom hoe identifiseer ‘n mens werklik talent. Hy het verskeie teoriee op die tafel gegooi en se toe “Ou seun die belangrikste van almal as daai seun op die veld lyk of hy alles doen teen ‘n drafstap maar tog alles regdoen, daai seun wat lyk of tyd hom nie jaag nie. Dan sien jy ware talent” Nou ja ek het Saterdag ware talent gesien. Net jammer dit is een jaar te vroeg.

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5 May, 2013 at 07:43
#44 Oom Kaspaas

Wat is julle kenners se gevoel oor die nuwe skrumreels vir skole?
Het meeste vd games gister gekyk en die vertolking tussen die skeidsregters was interessant.
By die Gim/Waterkloof en Grey/Monnas games is alles toegelaat – meer as 45 grade, meer as halwe meter vorentoe en agtertoe, voorrye wat opstaan, ens
Glenwood/HJS was onaanskoulik met anale vertolking deur skeidsregter – stop start, stop start.
Ek hou meer van die los benadering. Spel vloei beter. Skrums op skolevlak is met die nuwe reels reduseer tot iets om die spel te begin. Niks meer nie. Waarom dan tegnies blaas oor iets wat amper soos ‘n “uncontested scrum” lyk ?

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5 May, 2013 at 07:12
#43 Oom Kaspaas

@Tjoppa: Tjoppa: wat ek sover vanjaar van Gim gesien het, is hulle ligjare voor die res. Kwaggas verdien in hierdie stadium nr 2 posisie vir die aanskoulike tipe rugby wat hulle speel, maar ek dink dit gaan ‘n groot gespartel afgee deur die seiesoen tussen ‘n paar aanspraakmakers vir die nr 2 posisie. Affies, Grey CB, ens

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5 May, 2013 at 06:57
#42 Ploegskaar

@Tjoppa: Dink ek sien meer skole as wat die meeste eenoog raserige groen doos hier ryskorrels in ‘n leeftyd in sy keel afkry, maar ai, wat ‘n voorreg. Tian van Landbou? Groot voet, en nog ‘n groter hart, kenmerk van daai Landbou manne, maklik om hulle te ondersteun, ne?

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4 May, 2013 at 21:37
#41 GreenBlooded

@Greenwood: Sadly I didn’t even see the game – I was on assignment on the bottom field. Watched the game when I got home. Not pretty – but a very gutsy performance by the Green Machine. If the kicker had been on song it would have been a much bigger margin.

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4 May, 2013 at 21:33
#40 Greenwood

Greenblooded

I couldn’t have said it better !! – I had to leave before half time – up till then I would not have put my money on the Greens – later on the lightie got a message on his blackberry to say we had won WOW !!

Grasshopper – no doubt we will crack the top 30 – maybe even better than that Really chuffed !! – but the wife still can’t understand what all the fuss is about !!!

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4 May, 2013 at 20:59
#39 Grasshopper

@GreenBlooded: agreed, great week for us greenies! Hopefully we crack the top 30 now. Huge Hilton game at home next weekend, the boys need to not get big headed now…..Hilton also dismantled Michaelhouse….

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4 May, 2013 at 20:47
#38 GreenBlooded

Actually – that refers to Wilderklawer Day 1 also!!!

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4 May, 2013 at 20:44
#37 GreenBlooded

I have only one thing to say about Wildeklawer Day 2:

GGGGGLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDD!

GO GREEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNN!!!!

Us Greenies are going to be insufferable for the next few weeks!!!

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4 May, 2013 at 20:43
#36 Tjoppa

@BOG: Ondersteun niemand in pienk nie. Ek dink die Beetch weet ek kan ‘n grap vat ook.

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4 May, 2013 at 17:54
#35 Tjoppa

@Ploegskaar: Sien jy diep spore die wereld vol. Ploeg ek wil nou nie weer iets begin nie maar die no 10 vandag? Baie gaan my kruisig maar ek speel eerder met die mannetjie as met al die pretensious queens van die dag. Ek mag verkeerd wees maar hy het BMTby die emmersvol, groot hart,skoen en versprei die bal goed. Weet nie hoekom julle keurders dit nie kan raaksien nie. Stuur groete en se die Oom hoop om hom oor 5 jaar te sien groot rugby speel.

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4 May, 2013 at 17:52
#34 Ploegskaar

@Tjoppa: Ja jong, dis nie aldag dat die 3 spanne van verskillende skole wat ek ondersteun dit deurtrek nie. Dankie aan die spelers en personeel van Bellville HS vir die gasvryheid en gesonde gees vandag, kyk so een of twee games ‘n jaar daar en altyd lekker. Wys jou wat ‘n ex-Affie met ‘n skool kan doen!

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4 May, 2013 at 16:53
#33 BOG

@Tjoppa: Look, Id also have an inferiority complex if I supported a team which plays in pink jerseys. I dont mind if they loose 14 out of 15, but pink jumpers?

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4 May, 2013 at 16:26
#32 Tjoppa

@BOG: On the inside of the carton roll of a toilet roll. No sorry you do not buy expensive toilet paper. Or maybe no shit can not think of any other place. Must be printed somewhere on the toilet paper you buy.

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4 May, 2013 at 16:20
#31 Tjoppa

@Ploegskaar: Well done.

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4 May, 2013 at 16:11
#30 Tjoppa

What was learned from Wildeklawer according to me is:

1. Paarl Gymnasium
2. Outeniqua

3. I must admit a stuttering Affies who only the brave will position anywhere between 1 – 20

4 – 10. A distant 4-10 with any of the top twenty could win the other on a chosen day.

But 1 & 2 a sure bet. Just a cut above the rest.

Great tournament thank you Wildeklawer.

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4 May, 2013 at 16:09
#29 BOG

I saw elsewhere that its every Springboks dream to play for the Cheetahs one day

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4 May, 2013 at 16:09
#28 HORSEFLY NO.1

@Grey Brak:
It was the primary school and it was a feeder school. Its no longer really affliated with DHS with history being what ties the schools together.

As for feeding,with schools like Kearsney,Clifton and Westville also fighting really hard for these talented boys its become really hard for DHS to get ANY of the players from the school.

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4 May, 2013 at 16:09
#27 BOG

Shoe, close as can be expected. The HISTORY shows that the competition between GCB and Monnas has always been close, no matter if either has a strong side or not. Wet conditions were always going to make it even closer. See on Grey Twitter that Monnas is the only school to have beaten GCB 4 consecutive years. The count after today, is played: 15; GCB 9 and Monnas 5 Well done to both sides. Hopefully the flippers and snorkels can be removed for Affies next week.

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4 May, 2013 at 16:06
#26 Grey Brak

@HORSEFLY NO.1: Just witnessed another defensive master class from the Grey 1st team against a enourmous Monnas team. = Grey Guts!!

Is DPHS the primary school for DHS or is it only seen as a feeder school? Getting a large group of playes from primary schools such as Grey Secondary gets from Grey Primary certainly has it’s advantages. Trusted combinations that have been operating together for a few years often continue into their /14 years.

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4 May, 2013 at 15:52
#25 CyndiAtRugby

@CapeMan: She is phenomenal and a constant source of amusement and entertainment.

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4 May, 2013 at 15:39
#24 Ludz

Paul Roos seem to have gone to sleep in the 2nd half, Affies backline looked good.

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4 May, 2013 at 14:29
#23 HORSEFLY NO.1

@Grey Brak:
Yeah it should. Probably will be the decider for no.1 just like last years U14A match was.

Think Grey U13A should come down and play DPHS U13A side. They are time and time again the best team and beat their closest KZN rivals quite comfortably which is Glenwood Prep. DPHS beat them 39-10 today.
DHS need to get more boys from that school and the recent good results at U14 will continue for years to come

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4 May, 2013 at 13:54
#22 Ploegskaar

FT scores:
Bellville vs Bishops
U19a Bellville 23 Bishops 45
U16a Bellville 36 Bishops 33
U15a Bellville 3 Bishops 29
U14a Bellville 0 Bishops 5

Stellenberg vs Brackenfell
U/19a Stellenberg 25 Brackenfell 24
U16a DNP
U15a Stellenberg 3 Brackenfell 27
U14a Stellenberg 29 Brackenfell 5

WK
Boland Landbou 20 Noord-Kaap 16

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4 May, 2013 at 13:48
#21 Grey Brak

@BOG: As Bog mentions!

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4 May, 2013 at 13:46
#20 Grey Brak

@HORSEFLY NO.1: Good to hear. So the DHS and Glenwood u/14 match should be quite a good one. Grey’s u/13 team seems to be doing outstanding. Certainly much better than last year’s u/13 team. This years u/13 team have won the Junior tournament hosted at Grey during the April holiday and they have beaten Klein Paarl Gim and Klein Boishaai over the past three days. Junior talent seems to be streaming in!!

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4 May, 2013 at 13:42
#19 HORSEFLY NO.1

@BOG:
Watch out for Glenwood U15A ! Constantly improving! Turned over a 30-0 loss to Monnas last year to a small 17-12 loss today and beat Paarl Gim 10-7.

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4 May, 2013 at 13:31
#18 BOG

@HORSEFLY NO.1: @Grey Brak: I was going to say that the U14 clash may just be the high light of the interschools in August, but I am sure that GW will take a lot of encouragement from todays result. Until the match vs Monnas, the U14 side had been playing the tournaments and was unbeaten until then. But Im happy to hear the specifics of the correctional steps taken. Along with the U 13, U15(even though they lost to Selborne) and U16 sides, it is looking good for GCB for the next few years. No matter how good a jnr side is, you will always find that there is a degree of inconsistency. Ad to those, new talent who will be moving to Bloem for the natural beauty of the area, and things really look good!

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4 May, 2013 at 13:24
#17 HORSEFLY NO.1

Think Glenwood U15A will also provide a good game for Grey this year. Beat paarl gim 10-7

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4 May, 2013 at 13:19
#16 HORSEFLY NO.1

@Grey Brak:
Yeah DHS have a pretty gopod U14A team this year. They are second to Glenwood in kzn in my opinion.
Their results thus far:

Vs KZN Development: won 99-0
Vs Port Natal: won 66-0
Vs Ben Voster: won 38-17
Vs Maritzburg College: won 40-18
Vs Westville : won 25-7
Vs Parktown: won 66-8

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4 May, 2013 at 13:18
#15 Grey Brak

@HORSEFLY NO.1: Saw their scores at the Maties festival. Looked really impressive. From an Grey point of view it is good to see that Glenwood will be able to provide stern resistance to Grey this year. At least at u/14 level as it had become very one sided over recent years. Grey’s home advantage this year might just be the deciding factor between the two teams. Seems like DHS also have an decent u/14 team this year by the look of some of their results?

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4 May, 2013 at 13:05
#14 HORSEFLY NO.1

@Grey Brak:
The Glenwood U14A has had a great season thus far. Before Wildeklaver they hadn’t conceded a single point in 4 or 5 games. They beat Kearsney 15-0, Michaelhouse 60-0, beat 3 schools at Maties with nil scores against, Drew with Kempies and now beat Monnas. Think they’ll go unbeaten in KZN, should beat DHS

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4 May, 2013 at 12:59
#13 jakes

Well done EG Jansen. What a brilliant performance at Wildeklawer.

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4 May, 2013 at 12:43
#12 Rugbyman

News from Pretoria: Garsfontein 61 – 21 Centurion

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4 May, 2013 at 12:41
#11 Grey Brak

@HORSEFLY NO.1: The Grey u/14 team played Monnas off their feet for the 1st 15 minutes leading 17-0. The excellent Grey flyhalf then went off injured followed by injuries to the inside centre and wing. This accompanied with two forwards being substituted at half time. The match ended up with Grey having a scrumhalf and flank on the wings. These sequence of events just led to an entire standstill from the entire Grey team. Definitely a game of two halves.

Nothing taken away from the u/14 Monnas team which fought back and played excellently. That team consists of 15 “monsters”. Thus an even bigger “surprise” result against Glenwood u/14!! Glenwood u/14 must be an awesome side to achive that result? Any idea of why their results are so good this year for u/14 level?

Coming back to the Grey u/14 team I believe that at the time of the Monnas match the young Grey side may have been too dependant on 1 or 2 key players. Since then the u/14 team has really started to gel and each player finding his own place in the team with confidence. They have truely become an 15-man team. I predict this u/14 Grey side to go unbeaten for the rest of the season with matches coming up against Affies, Paarl Boys High and the now highly rated Glenwood.

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4 May, 2013 at 12:39
#10 Mike

Glenwood definitely deserved it. They just looked like they wanted it more.

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4 May, 2013 at 12:26
#9 Grasshopper

Been following it on twitter as had to be out shopping, arg! No pvr here at our timeshare! Very chuffed for the Glenwood boys especially having lost by a point to Boishaai a few years back. Must have been a great game and finally one where the sides were evenly matched :-). I think it’s Glenwood’s first win over Boishaai, go green!

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4 May, 2013 at 12:24
#8 CapeMan

That Glenwood mom sure can shout for 70min hey?!

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4 May, 2013 at 12:19
#7 beet

Well done Glenwood. Not pretty but a huge result.

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4 May, 2013 at 12:17
#6 CapeMan

Well done Glenwood. Deserved winners. Paarl Boys never seemed to get going or rather Glenwood wouldn’t let them. Grassy must be chuffed

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4 May, 2013 at 12:16
#5 HORSEFLY NO.1

@BOG:
What happened in that 2nd half??

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4 May, 2013 at 12:13
#4 BOG

Sorry, I seem to be getting ADHD at an advanced age, but you know what I meant.

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4 May, 2013 at 12:02
#3 BOG

@HORSEFLY NO.1: The score was 34-17 after GCB led 17-0 at HT. Correctional steps were taken to prevent that catastrophe to prevent a repeat. Watch August for confirmation.

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4 May, 2013 at 12:00
#2 HORSEFLY NO.1

DHS U14A won 66-8
U15A won 24-3
U16A lost 24-8

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4 May, 2013 at 11:53
#1 HORSEFLY NO.1

Glenwood U14A beat Monnas 9-5. Huge result!!! Specially since this Monnas team Beat Grey College. Think they beat them 33-12 or something. What a team!! Probably Glenwoods ‘dream team’

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KES Easter Rugby Festival 2025 – lineup - Hustle 1 - 16 November, 2024
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Western Province High Schools Rugby Association addresses poaching of affiliated schools players - beet - 13 November, 2024
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KwaZulu-Natal Schoolboy Rugby Fixtures for 2025 - Grasshopper - 13 November, 2024
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St Stithians Easter Rugby Festival 2025 – 1st XVs - Grasshopper - 12 November, 2024
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- KatzRugga - I really like the inclusi…
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Eastern Province Schoolboy Rugby Fixtures & Results 2025 - beet - 12 November, 2024
- beet - @Palma (Comment #3) Yeah…
- Palma - @beet (Comment #2) Pearso…
- beet - @Dion (Comment #1) Yeah a…
- Dion - A Framesby vs Pearson gam…
Grey College – Rugby Fixtures 2025 - KatzRugga - 10 November, 2024
- KatzRugga - Bit of time on the road f…
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- beet - @Kantman (Comment #4) It…
- Kantman - @beet (Comment #3) :lol:
- beet - @Kantman (Comment #2) My…
Work-in-progress: Western Cape Schoolboy Rugby Fixtures for 2025 - Kantman - 9 November, 2024
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- beet - @Buthelezi2 (Comment #9)…
- Buthelezi2 - @beet (Comment #5) @beet…
- Kantman - @beet (Comment #6) Wildek…
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Noordvaal Cup – key personnel changes ahead of 2025 - Grizzly - 9 November, 2024
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- Grizzly - @SB Rugby (Comment #3) Wa…
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Brand new December schoolboy rugby series announced – SIX GUN GRILL SUMMER RUGBY FESTIVAL - Snelvuur - 5 November, 2024
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- agter_die_pale_pa - @PietPompies (Comment #41…
- PietPompies - @yesnomaybe (Comment #39)…
Bellville & Tygerberg show support for WPHSRA anti-poaching initiative - Chronicle - 3 November, 2024
- Chronicle - @Deon (Comment #18) Just…
- Kantman - @Rugbyman (Comment #16) E…
- Deon - @Chronicle (Comment #17)…
- Chronicle - @Deon (Comment #15) Shame…
- Rugbyman - Back to the rugby matter.…
Glenwood to pay their last respects to their Rugby Coach GOAT - Grasshopper - 1 November, 2024
- Grasshopper - His memorial here, with a…
- agter_die_pale_pa - Many more "Toppy's" is wh…
- Grizzly - Blyk dat hy n groot versk…
- Henkies - Rest Well Toppy, a Glenwo…
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Monnas go in search of a new Rugby head - Kaya 85 - 22 October, 2024
- Kaya 85 - Yikes!!! The requirements…
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KZN coaching changes ahead of the 2025 schoolboy rugby season - Kaya 85 - 22 October, 2024
- Kaya 85 - It's a bit disappointing…
- KatzRugga - Saints had some good resu…
- Grasshopper - @beet (Comment #5) nteres…
- Skywalker - I will be watching Kearsn…
- Skywalker - @beet (Comment #3) Thanks…
u16 rankings for 2022 & 2023 as a projection for 2025 - Grasshopper - 14 October, 2024
- Grasshopper - @Deon (Comment #6) What y…
- Deon - @Grasshopper (Comment #5)…
- Grasshopper - Hoping Glenwood push for…
- Vreesloos - HTS Middelburg - 67 plek.…
Noordvaal Cup 2025 – fixtures - KatzRugga - 11 October, 2024
- KatzRugga - With pre season tours and…
Schoolboy Rugby Rankings 1998-2009 - BoschBoy - 8 October, 2024
- BoschBoy - Anyone have the rankings…
- Ryan - 2004 Grey High team was v…
- Grasshopper - @Skywalker (Comment #5) 2…
South Africa’s state school fees for 2024 - Tang - 8 October, 2024
- Tang - Do any bloggers have a vi…
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- Coolguy - @Skywalker (Comment #14)…
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Rassie’s 2024 Boks are great but aging! - OomPB - 7 October, 2024
- OomPB - Rassie skroom nie om Jong…
Noordvaal Cup competition – restructuring proposals - Grizzly - 3 October, 2024
- Grizzly - @FullBackWing (Comment #1…
- FullBackWing - @Grizzly (Comment #14) Ek…
- Hanswors - Heksejag..... jaloesie ..…
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Boishaai go in search of a Director of Rugby - Kantman - 1 October, 2024
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