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| SCHOOL | SCHOOL | NOTES | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| M.College | 38 | 11 | DHS | Midweek game – College raced to a 31-6 (5 try) halftime lead, then seemed to take their foot off the pedal. Also brought on subs. DHS only lost 2nd half 5-7 |
| Affies | 46 | 6 | KES | Midweek game |
| St Charles | 17 | 18 | Voortrekker | Midweek game – Voortrekker caused a major upset by winning this one |
| Port Natal | 11 | 20 | George Campbell | Midweek game – Campbell seemed well in control leading 17-3 at one stage. Porties fought back in the last 15min to make it respectable. |
| Centurion | 16 | 12 | Monnas | NuPower Pool decider – Centurion are in the Top 4 semi-final |
| Rustenburg | 34 | 39 | Kempton Park | NuPower Monday game – Kempies play Centurion in NuPower semi |
| Voortrekker (Beth) | 27 | 21 | Hentie Cilliers | |
| Outeniqua | 25 | 37 | Paarl Gim | Live on TV : SS1 compliments of Premier Interschools |
| DHS | 3 | 42 | Westville | |
| Hilton | 42 | 12 | Michaelhouse | Huge derby |
| Northwood | 13 | 26 | M. College | |
| St Charles | 0 | 55 | Kearsney | |
| Selborne | 5 | 41 | Grey College | |
| Wynberg | 19 | 15 | Grey HS | |
| Graeme | 22 | 23 | St Andrews | Graeme missed a final kick to win it |
| Marlow | 34 | 19 | Nico Malan | |
| Kingswood | 50 | 7 | Kirkwood | |
| Itembelihle | 0 | 69 | Die Brandwag | |
| Primrose | 9 | 52 | Bishops | |
| Rondebosch | 31 | 16 | Stellenberg | |
| SACS | 0 | 32 | Paul Roos | |
| Tygerberg | 59 | 6 | Bellville | |
| Oakdale | 36 | 10 | Lagenhoven Gim | |
| Menlopark | 27 | 17 | KES | |
| Affies | 36 | 18 | Jeppe | |
| Helpmekaar | 14 | 34 | Waterkloof | |
| Parktown | 3 | 56 | Pretoria BH | |
| HTS Witbank | 24 | 8 | Middelburg | PUK Prestige League final (see picture of champions below) |
| HTS Middelburg | 30 | 30 | Centurion | NuPower – 1st-4th semi. HTS Middelburg advances to final by scoring more tries |
| Nelspruit | 42 | 23 | Kempton Park | NuPower – 1st-4th semi |
| EG Jansen | 32 | 18 | Monnas | NuPower – 5th-8th semi |
| Garfontein | 55 | 20 | Ermelo | NuPower – 5th-8th semi |
| Transvalia | 34 | 14 | Rustenburg | NuPower – 9th-12th semi |
| Vereeniging Gim | 17 | 31 | Florida | NuPower – 9th-12th semi |
| Marais Viljoen | 15 | 34 | Eldoraigne | NuPower – 13th-16th semi |
| Pietersburg | 18 | 34 | Klerksdorp | NuPower – 13th-16th semi |
HTS Witbank, PUK Prestige League winners 2013
@Grasshopper:@Gungets Tuft: I have been injuring my knees over an extended period through a combination of age and weight. Any remedy that does not involve the reduction of food intake? I dont consume alcohol, so I cant give that up.
@Grasshopper: Knees – eeisch. I had a small arthroscopy 18 months ago for a miniscus cartilage tear (blame it on a freak wave while heading for the beach in a surfski – others will blame it on blind stupid) and have not managed to get the same function back. Granted I am a wee bit older than Bizzie, and not being paid to rehabilitate, but still. Big damage to ligaments .. horrible stuff. Ask Wayne Fyvie ..
@BOG: I had the same injury and know of plenty of other who have had it too, you are never the same. In the gym I maxed out at 80% of what I used to do afterwards, so maybe Bissie’s 80% is enough……not sure. Unless he is non human unfortunately these sorts of injuries stuff you up. Schalk in the same…..
Anybody have the score between Marlow vs Queens yesterday?
@Grasshopper: Dont be in a hurry to write off B du P, How did you reach the conclusion that he wont be the same again? As the saying goes- ‘when the occasion demands it, a —-” @beet: Is the wearing of pink shirts permitted here? If so, a warning for sensitive viewers should be displayed
@beet: It has became fashion that the shortest of the two props stand at 8 in line out. Thus prop, lock,lock, second jumper i.e 7, 8, 6 and then prop. There is a definite move back to powerfull scrummers except at the Bulls. Even Coenie is back at loosehead.
@beet: agreed, that is why Cooper is doing well, speed, power in the set piece and cleaning rucks. He sometimes bounces or hands off players too. His only slight weakness is throwing in the lineout but even this has drastically improved. Give him coaching throwing through a small loop hanging in the garden will help this. He would be a great 2nd choice after Strauss off the bench…..Bissie looks buggered and may never be what he was before….unfortunately. Cooper is solid!
@Grasshopper: I dont think the market is dead for shorter hookers but like Brits, Dalton and Richardt Strauss, even Skarra now, the shorter guys have to make up for what they lack in scrumming power by being quicker or something x-factor that the bigger guy can’t match.
Schalk Brits 101kg/180cm and James Dalton 95kg/177cm were pretty small too. Anyway, new age hookers are pretty tall, I don’t think it’s right the hookers being so tall but what do I know about front rows. We should ask John Allan what he thinks….
@beet: that is what the official stats say, but are those ever accurate. How big was James Dalton? Tiny but he was an animal! Size does not cover mongrel or toughness, anyway point made. Glenwood Old Boys need to raise their game as we want and need a Bok soon, John Allan was close to 20 years ago now…..
@Grasshopper: I’m terrible at guestimating stats but having watched Malton on a number of occasions in the juniors I’m sure he isn’t 1.78m. More like 1.74m.
@meadows: looks a very good backline and ok forwards, although Diack and Rhodes are pretty good. Another great prospect lost is Chris Micklewood, where is he? Also Storm Pearton and Andrich Arlow…..so many go AWOL!
@Grasshopper: My point is just that as a relatively small fetcher type loosie it is more difficult to get selected on the bench and make an impression as coaches tend to pick players that can cover a few positions eg blindside/lock/No8 or wing/fullback/13.
@beet:
I’ve watche Jaco Kriel since U19 and I think that he is an outstanding prospect who could go all the way playing in a top side. That said we dont seem to have a problem producing quality loosies in SA.
@Grasshopper:
off the top of my head I think MHS could put out a decent backline of current players but would have a few gaps in the forwards.
Here is a quick attempt;
MHS Craven Week Province National
15 Pat Lambie 2007/8 2007/8 (capt) Sharks Bok
14 Mark Richards 2006/7 Academy WK Sharks Bok 7’s
13 Pat Howard 2008/10 2009/10 WP Bok U20
12 Robert de Bruyn 2008 2008 Lions
11 Ruan Combrinck 2007/8 2008 WP U19/21, Lions Bok U20
10 Guy Cronje 2005/7 2007 (capt) Sharks, Lions
9 Ross Cronje 2005/7 2007 (capt) Sharks, Lions Bok U20
8 Robbie Diack 2002/3 2003 Stormers, Ulster
7 Mike Rhodes 2005 2005 Sharks, Lions, Stormers
6 Ntsolo Setlaba 2006/7 2007 WP U19, UCT VC capt
5 Cameron Lindsay 2008/9 2009 (capt)WP U19/21, Stellies
4 Moberley 2012 2012 (capt)
3 Louis Albertse 2007/8 2008 Lions U19/21, Bulls
2 Chris Stander 2005 2005 Shimlas
1 Pat Cilliers 2004/5 2005 (capt)Sharks, Lions, Stormers Bok
16
17 Gary Mann 2008 Boland U19/21
18
19 Josh Moon 2012 2012 WP
20 Hilton Mudariki 2009 2009 WP U19
21 Murray de Bruyn 2005/7 2007 Lions U19/21
22 Arnott 2012 2012 SA Schools
@beet: Just an idea, you should start a schools dream team section for bloggers to submit their Old Boy teams of current players, obviously the likes of grey Bloem etc will be virtually the Bok team, but for KZN schools it would be very interesting. Here is my squad for Glenwood;
1. John Roy-Jenkinson (Leopards – SA U20)
2. Kyle Cooper (Sharks)
3. Robbie Harris (Leicester Tigers – Sharks)
4. Brendon Groenewald (Sharks Vodacom Cup)
5. Nic Strauss (Narbonne – France)
6. Shaun Adendorff (Bulls U19 – SA U20)
7. Francois Kleyneins (Sharks Vodacom Cup – SA U20)
8. Warren Whiteley (Lions/SA Sevens)
9. Matthew Torrance (Scotland U20)
10. Fred Zeilanga (Sharks Vodacom Cup)
11. Corne Vermaak (KZN Schools 2012)
12. Kobus Lourens (Leopards)
13. Ian Adendorff (Blitzbokke)
14. Dean Moolman (Bulls U19)
15. Greg Manning (Manly Rugby Club – Sydney, Australia)
Reserves
16. Dexter Fahey (Sharks Academy – Shimlas Varsity Cup)
17. Peter Zsitvai (Hungary)
18. Alwyn Janse Van Rensburg (Sharks U19)
19. Nanyak Dala (Canada)
20. Meyrick Walker (Bulls U19)
21. Shaun Malton (Sharks U21 – Nottingham)
22. Dean Muir (Sharks Vodacom Cup)
23. Brian Shabangu (SA Sevens)
24. Deucullen van der Merwe (Sharks U19)
25. Wade Elliot (Sharks U19)
26. Marne Coetzee (SA U20)
27. Neil Oelofse (WP U20 and Maties)
@meadows: I heard Franna has picked up 1 few kilo’s and probablu around 100kg now, but size is not everything…..Keegan Daniel is only 97kg/188cm and Jaques Botes 97kg/182cm. Franna should be taking over the likes of Botes now who is 33! Kanko is only 100kg and Brussouw 101kg. Malton is 102kg/178cm playing for Nottingham now after being at London Irish, http://www.nottinghamrugby.co.uk/players/shaun-malton.aspx. He will eventually end up at Saracens and then in the English side. Monde is the same size at 102kg/177cm……so actually shorter then Shaun. Anyway, these guys are fringe players so just need to step up their game to get noticed, hope for a change of coach or move. Pat Cilliers is one who benefitted from a move and then make the Boks, MHS’s 2nd bok in 2 years……for me Zeilanga is knocking down the door for Sharks selection, move Lambie to 15 and bring him in……our own Johnny Wilkinson…..
@meadows: I think the same applies to Malton or any small hooker for that matter. You have to be a prominent livewire 4th loose forward type to make up for the lack of size not to mention quick around the park. He wasn’t that kind of player in the juniors. Also want to add that accurate lineout throwing is vital for any hooker but more so when you’re small and need this feature as a strong point in your game.
@Grasshopper: Look I think Malton was given an adequate chance to prove himself and the Sharks made the right decision to cut him. With regards to Kleynhans and even Stander (Wesville) it’s difficult to understand why the Sharks have retained their services if they do not see them as future senior players or do not intend giving them a chance to prove themselves with all the injuries around. Derrick Minnie is a senior with experience but before him there was talk of bring in Jaco Kriel, a talented player but the same age as Kleynhans and Stander. So why not then cut either of the 2 locals and contract Kriel if the feeling is he has the goods and they don’t.
@Grasshopper: I thought Malton was an outstanding schoolboy player but his size (or lack thereof) was always going to be a problem in the senior ranks. He seemed to fall behind Monde Hadebe as they progressed through the U19-21 ranks. I saw that he was in the UJ squad for last years Varsity Cup but even at that level they preferred the bigger hookers.
I think that it is much more difficult for the specialists to get game time. I’ve rated Kleinhans since I first noticed him as an U16 at the Grant Khomo in 2006 but unless is is able to assert himself as the first choice fetcher his lack of size (184 & 96kg) is also going to become a problem. Coaches tend to go with loose forwards who can cover a few positions on the bench – blindside/lock/no 8 or some other combination.
@beet: true true, but he was a good player. Maybe slightly overweight but that could have been sorted with a fitness programme. Another will be Chippy Oelofse, playing WP under19 and Maties but he will most likely get lost in the system. Shaun Malton got lost to the UK because he was not given a proper chance. Zeilanga and Kleyheins will go to another province if the Sharks don’t wake up and smell the coffee. Bringing in Lions players don’t help promote the confidence of these young players. If Franna had been given the opportunity like Coetzee he would be a Sharks regular now, but we keep on with has beens. Cooper is proving his worth now only because of Bissies injury…..
@Grasshopper: It’s always a challenge for a prop under 1.80m to get far in senior rugby. For example Jannie Doop is over 10cm taller than JR Jenkinson. That’s a massive difference when it comes to lifting a jumper in the lineout
@meadows: yeah, heard that but not heard much since 2011, real pity! He was a beast at school level scoring plenty of push over tries. I think he has the school record tries for a prop in a season. Another lost in the wilderness, just think he would have prospered at the Sharks closer to home….
@Grasshopper: Jenkinson went to the Leopards/Pukke after school and certainly played U19 and 21 there. I think that he also played Varsity Cup and may have played for the senior side as well in Vodacom or Currie Cup. I’m not sure if he is still there – he may be injured at the moment.
@Playa: Also what i was saying about the Dale teams is basically there does not seem to be anything on the horizon which catches your eye, yes the Dale Under16A won against Queens but this must be taken into context this must be one of the weakest Queens age groups seen for along time and Dale just managed to scrap a win.
And what makes it worse i do not think any of the Queens teams will produce outstanding 1st teams either they were just better than Dale. Maybe come Saturday after Selborne we will see if any of the Queens age group are any good although with all the injuries tin the Under14/15 teams this might be hard to tell.
@rugbyfan: @Playa: I think the biigest issue at the moment for schools like Queens and Dale is there support structures this mainly been the Old Boys setups and i think the difference is Queens Old Boys setup is Top Class and has a vision in place and is living up to there promise were Dale Old Boys setup seems to be no more than a social setup(No disrepect meant). There Old Boys must put there money were there mouth is otherwise teams like 93/2013 will be things of the past.
@Playa: Queenian might have a point when you see all the Dale teams playing at the moment it does not give you a sense of here is a school about to produce quality 1st teams anytime soon even the Junior school were 1 or 2 teams look quite good the question is will they be at Dale after Grade 7?
@Playa: And by having alook at the Dale teams from Under14/15/16/3rd/2nd it could be a few drought years ahead.
@Playa: Agree when you have played 13 lost 8 things are pretty lonely out there.
Does anyone know what happened to John Roy Jenkinson the Glenwood Old Boy tight head who played SA under 20 in 2011, he was a powerful scrummager at 128kg?
@star: I think Glenwood have 6 and more in the provincial set-ups too. Fred Zeilanga, Franna Kleynheins, Kyle Cooper, Warren Whiteley, Wade Elliott, Brendon Groenewald, Shaun Adendorff, Marne Coetzee, Alwyn Janse Van Vuuren, Shaun Malton in the UK, Nic Strauss in France, Robbie Harris Sharks 15 last week, Scotland Under20 scrumhalf…..list goes on. Granted nobody big time, but if Cooper keeps up the good work he could be 2nd choice to Strauss in the Boks soon….I have left out a few others…
@star: My point on the transition from U14 through to Craven Week and then the pro ranks was primarily that i dont think that MHS have enough U14 recruits on sports (let alone rugby) scholarships to attach any sort of reliabilty to the results. My view, based on a few select anecdotal examples where MHS produced top teams that did produce large numbers of contracted players, was that the transistion % from U14 star to pro player (ie contracted at u19 level) was 0 out of 4. Not so good
A key difference with MHS in terms of where the boys move after school is that a large number of the boys do not come from natal and I suspect that this influences decisions along with the fact that the Sharks academy does not have an allegiance to a “proper” university – Stellies & Uct, Tuks, UJ, OFS etc – that offers the full spectrum of academic options.
Notwithstanding that many MHS boys originate ouside of the province, many do still start their professional careers at the Sharks. A few years ago Pat Cilliers, Mike Rhodes, Ross and Guy Cronje, Mark Richards and Pat Lambie were all in the senior set up at the Sharks. The Cronje boys are from Jhb and Rhodes is from the Lowveld.
Other players from that group included Ruan Combrinck (now at the Lions) who went to WP and hails from northern natal, Murray and Robert de Bruyn (from JHB) went to the Lions along with Louis Albertse who is from Dundee, and Pat Howard went to WP, as did the 2009 Craven Week captain Cameron Lindsay and 2007 MHS captain and CW player Ntsolo Setlaba.
Monde Hadebe did play Craven Week in 2008 although Sean Malton from Glenwood was the preferred hooker and made the SA schools side. Hadebe though was selected for what amounted to one of the two SA schools “B” sides that were chosen – a North and South selection – and were meant to play each other – For some reason the game never took place.
@ Meadows- I agree fully that some players that are carried by good teams can get exposed later. I think Westers was referring to bursary/U14/15 stars that do not make it to 1st team let alone the professional ranks. At the moment Westville have 6 players( Meyer,Chadwick,Stander,Majola,Fisher and Hadebe) who are Sharks/Sharks 15 players.(You see we are not just swimmers and academics
) 3 were SA Schools and only Hadebe was not CW( Malton from GW was selected). I would assume that the bulk were on bursary and played through the ranks. What it says is that if the schools recruit properly at U14 and not just rely on size then there can be progression although still a small % of the total intake. Westers is right that the balance with academics must not be lost by the small prospect of professional opportunity. I would also be interested to know what other schools have more players in the Sharks set-up. Talk about loyalty to the brand 
Of the House 2012 Craven week players I think all of them are at the UCT Trojans or WP Academy.
@QC86: Hahahaha! Yeah, I need one badly,hey.
@star:
Tiaan Meyer is a good example of perseverance. He played Craven Week in 2006 so I guess he must turn 25 sometime this year. Ross Cronje is a year younger (2007) and was generally preferred at the Sharks when they competed for the same jersey.
I’m sure he must have thought his chances were over when he went to the Pumas. Good for him!
Bresler was at DHS in 2006 – he missed out on Craven Week and played Academy week that year.
I have always thought that good sides at any schoolboy level can “carry” and enhance the reputations of players who do not have what it takes to succeed after school. I think this is one of the reasons for the failure of so many schoolboy stars as early as U19 level while others with less impressive credentials come through – Marcel Coetzee from Port Natal is a good example – didnt play any schoolboy provincial rugby. If memory serves the Sharks high profile schoolboy loose forward signing for 2009 was Adriaan Thesinger from Grey/OFS.
@Playa: you need a hug yet boet,now you know how we felt last year,at one stage we were played 13 lost 8
@ Meadows- Maybe the trick is to work backwards. eg Tian Meyer has just been called up to the Sharks as cover for scrum half. He is 24 and so I presume would have played in 2007. Do you remember him as he captained the KZN age groups after school. He was also from Werda Primary( same as Bressler) and so I imagine he would have been on a bursary at Westville. Intetersting to track Bresslers progress as they both did not come from the traditional primary school powerhouses.
@Playa: With all those home games they should be able to get some wins under the belt.
@Ludz: Thanks
@Westers: Couldn’t agree more! There is attrition at every level for aspirant professionals that is probably most noticable in the 3 years post school at U19 and 21 levels.
I am sure that most of the schools must keep some sort of track of their bursary investments. It would be interesting to hear how boys have developed and gone on to play professionally at schools that have scholarship programmes for larger numbers of sportsman.
From memory MHS hand out two a year across all sporting codes so rugby competes with cricket and hockey. All round ability and academics are factors in these awards.
Anecdotally I can tell you that the transition from U14 to even 1st Xv, let alone post school professional rugby was not good in either of the 2007 and 2008 sides which each produced 8 boys that went on to play at a minimum U19&21 professional rugby. There is some overlap in those numbers in that 3 boys (Lambie, Ruan Combrinck and Louis Albertse) played in 2007 and 2008. I am not sure how many of the 2012 team have been contracted by provinces this year.
The 2007 group as U14’s had two players who had played U13 Craven week and they spearheaded a reasonably successful team. By 2007 neither was playing 1stXV, although one had played for the 1st’s as an U16 in 2005. Neither of them played provincial rugby after school.
2008 was similar, although Awande Khumalo, who was the star of that group in 2004 and was outstanding in the unbeaten 2006 KZN Grant Khomo side, did play 1stXV and make the Craven Week side in 2008. Although he too did not go on to play provincial rugby after school.
@ McCulley’s Workshop- I think it was you that asked about the 3 postmatrics in 1979 at MHS. There were only 2 from outside. Van Heerden was from MHS. Tingle was in matric that year and then repeated the following year at College.
@meadows: All the more reason for people like us to not place too much pressure on the early age groups. I fear that some boys at U14 & U15 place too little emphasis on academics because of the rugby hype that is generated around them.
I know the percentage of boys going on from 1st team to higher honours is small. It would be interesting to know how many boys who enter high school on a bursary actually go on to higher honours after school. Boys and parents need this drilled into them.
@Scrum Doctor: Got to agree with you on that one.
@Rugbyforlife: I dont know what game you were watching -obviously a different one to what I was watching . I admit though it is hard to look good when your forwards are getting their buts handed to them by a much smaller,shorter and thinner pack ! He was not able to attack much as he got most of his ball on the back foot but the battle was won fair and square by the Westville #10 in this contest
@Vleis: I think there is no guarantee as to how a group will develop over their five years at senior school.
i think that your son’s tutor is quite right in that the 2008 U14’s were a particularly weak group at that level but developed into a good 1st XV in 2012. Conversely the 2011 matrics were a particularly strong U14 and 15 group (their record in 2008 as U15s was second only to a very good 1stXv) but they were poor as matrics in 2011.
It is interesting how regularly the star players at U14 level do not even featureat 1st XV level by the time they reach matric while other players only come through at U16 and older.
@meadows: My son’s tutor said that he was the coach (or assistant coach?) of the MH u14 team in 2008. He said that they won 3 out of 14 games, but eventually became the star 1st team of 2012…and only two new players joined the team in the preceding four years due to relocation – i.e. they were not “bought”. Doesn’t sound like too much is wrong with the system at MH – as you say, small numbers means that they will have the odd ‘difficult’ year – especially when there are injuries.
@McCulleys Workshop: Was ’99 not the year that the return fixture was cancelled by Hilton – on the basis that MHS had overdone the post matric complement – although I must admit that i thought that was Herkie Krugers year. my memory is clearly failing me
@star:
interesting point about fluctuating fortunes – a consequence of being a relatively small school – I guess that the coaching team can only work with the players that they have and in some years they just dont have the players.
@beet: Thanks Beet. I’ll pass on your tip to my mate.
@Vleis: I think House will still match up well against a lot of teams. They have a big pack and although that hasn’t helped them in the last couple of games, I think if there is too much of a mismatch up front, like I witnessed when Bennies played Northwood, it starts to count at some point after the half time break. If St Johns want to beat House, I think like Hilton they need to exploit the defensive weaknesses further away from the rucks and fringes.
@star: St John’s started this year off with a string of terrible results, so were looking to be a guaranteed Grogper Cup win for MH. However, a mate (whose son is playing for their 1st team) tells me that they’ve improved enourmously in the past few weeks – e.g. last week they beat the Windhoek team that beat MH…..so maybe they can squeak a win obver MH if they hit top form??
@meadows: there were post matric’s in the side, I’m not sure more than in previous years and I don’t think full of Grey post matrics, I think there were two players from Grey, however the front row wasn’t far off that fielded by Outeniqua currently. Not much different from the side Hirkie Kruger played in, in 1998, which lost to Hilton 24 – 40.
@ Meadows-then the 42 points is a record for Hilton. Must say House does seem to be experiencing some extremes. 2011 was poor , 2012 excellent( top dog), 2013 seems to be following the path of 2011. Hilton with their new structures and some would say dubious recruitment policies is becoming more consistent. Time will tell. House still have to beat St Johns for the Grogper Cup so better buck up.
@Woltrui: Weet die manne was al by Affies, Kloof en Pta Boys se wedstryde. Van die groot skole se wedstryde is die naweek vir Vrydag en saterdag geskeduleer om as proewe te dien. Glo daar sal binnekort naamlyste kom van seuns wat deurgaan na die finale proewe toe. Nie heeltemal seker nie. Kyk ma na die tyd na manne wat deur “krake” val.
@McCulleys Workshop: Quite right – i should have remembered the second game at Hilton in 2007 – 44-17
@beet:
if memory serves the ’99 side was the one that caused all the controversy – full of Grey post matrics (funded by an Old Boy) and the return fixture was cancelled. Old Boys and parents were probably more angry than Hilton and the excercise wasn’t repeated. MHS stopped post matric in about 2003 I think.
@McCulleys Workshop: Was there anything unusual about that MHS 1999 team in as far as imports were concerned?
@meadows: MHS won the second game in 2007. 44-17
@meadows: Meadows, MHS beat Hilton 44 -5 in 1999.
@Queenian: okay, will do
Good luck DHS for the up-coming game against Parktown. I think DHS #10 had an outstanding game considering the situation at DHS. His decision making and general play was outstanding. Would love to know where is his brother Mikyle who also played for DHS 1st team, as well as Sharks U19.
Tjop weet jy of die Bulle al proewe begin speel her?
@Queenian: You must be carefull u/16 is the age when the Grey old boys step in and stop the holes in the team. So rather play badly and keep your players. Do not ever say I have not warned you.
@Speartackle: You never replied on our request regarding coaching career in France. Was it rugby?
@beet: I made the mistake of going to my first Hilton – MHS in quite a few years on the weekend. MHS were completely outplayed and out thought and frankly appear not to have the personnel to counter pace out wide. I thought that the Hilton scrumhalf was outstanding – a class above any other player on the field. Hilton’s loosies dominated the breakdown and totally nullified any attempt to generate momentum by some of the big ball carriers MHS have up front. MHS appeared to have no plan B when their forwards couldnt make any inroads. it was very disappointing to watch a MHS backline devoid of any creativity, penetration or pace.
This is possibly the weakest MHS side that I can recall and I suspect that things are only going to get worse against Kearsney next week.
@star:
I’m not sure what the highest gross score is for the fixture. I understood that the 40-0 2007 score was the highest margin of victory but there may have been other high gross scores with lesser margins over time. Typically, as you know, these derbies are usually tight encounters regardless of the form book or numbers of star players on a side eg Pat Lambie’s 2008 side, laden with Craven Week players, scraped in by about 2pts against a Hilton side without any CW reps
@star:
Then the 1st mistake wouldve been to look at things like that.
But I’m not saying that Westville will get 60 against College although I doubt DHS would get 60 if the two teams were to play again. This. Does look like an unpredictable group with the 2 favourites for unbeaten status already losing a game each.
Seems the U15 group is also a close one too. DHS,WBHS,Glenwood,College all on a par in my opinion
@star: Boys are still young and these lesson are what character is built on . dont for one second think that these boys are not analysing and reflecting on what transpired on the field on SAT ! We love our rugby but at the end of the day , it is not the end of the world , it is a game that is contested between two teams and our boys are fully aware that they did not play to their potential . One to remember for next year , i bet .
Now time to focus on KES and lift their heads and link the obvious talents into a strong team .
@Queenian: Dale plays Stirling in King this weekend.First home game for the year.
Port Rex next weekend before Selborne at reunion on the 18th, Kingswood on the 25th and Grey PE on the 31st. All these are home games…5 in a row.
@ Horsy- the problem is the MC result which was a blow out. You must remember that Westville and MC U16A have both played the same teams at Skonk and PBHS and so there is a definitive form line which puts then vitually on a par.In fact if you ask the Hudson Park boys who was the better team I know where my money would be. Westville also beat Hilton who beat MHS who beat GW. Based on current form it was hugely unexpected. Are you saying that Westville will also get beaten by 60 against College? Maybe this U16 age group is going to throw up one surprise after another and the team that wants it more on the day will be the victor.
@Playa: Who Dale playing this weekend
At selborne on the weekend very disappointed no structure and guts as has always been the traditional selborne way only the u15 a team showed these true traditions, well coached and highly motivated, if they stay together, what a great 1st team for the future.
@Playa: Agree there
@Ludz: Thats fair enough. He has a very proud record, and I am sure the boys respect him and respond well to him. That’s great. I for one respect him as a coach as well.As Queenian has pointed out, different methods work for different coaches I guess.
Very sad to hear about Fortuin.this outlines the major flaw of these ‘unionised recruitments’.I really feel for the young man.More reason why professionals should stay out of schoolboy rugby.
What i have heard the one weighs 98kg and is already 1,98 the other just a fraction smaller there father is a giant of a man he was at Piet Retief in Adaliade in the late 70,s looks like Queens might have won the day and looks like they will becoming Kudu,s and not Grey Bloem boys. Although i did hear that it would either happen now or at the end of the year.
It would be great for that age group at Queens as they alread have a star in Ilano Smith so could be some good years coming for Queens
Interesting that in the previous games between. The 2 U16 A sides WBHS won 13-8 and 33-15 in U14 and U15 respectively. In U14 DHS dominated and were outplayed last year after losing players… My question is, what did Westville expect to do when they only won 33-15 last year AT westville, a score made good by some last minute tries from Westville??
@Queenian: how big are the twins?
@Ludz: My no 072-3053723 please keep me updated on Saturday i will be in Graaf Reniett the whole day my son is playing against Union High this weekend.
@Queenian: yep, I’ll be there from early in the morning, wanna watch most of the matches, from u14A through to 1st team level
@Queenian: he makes a really big difference in the heads of those boys
@Ludz: Agreed there you going to be at Selborne on Saturday
@Queenian: yes, he’s made his choice, him going back will send the wrong message, if they wanna teach the boy anything, it’s that you leave with the decisions you make. Whatever the consequences.
@Ludz: All coaches have there own style so maybe he,s works for him.
@Playa: Mr Taylor’s got heart though, you should his enthusiasm when he’s coaching the boys at training, it’s a great atmosphere for them, hence I think his role in the rise to the top for Selborne has been underplayed. Awesome man.
@Playa: Agree there should be a close game could go either way depends alot on if Queens can sort there handling errors out.
@Ludz: Agree him coming back could cause problems amongst the boys. Well i hear viva the Grape Vine that the two Bekker boys at Burgerdorp High twins both play lock under14 very big and pontent could land up at Queens within a week or two.
@rugbyfan: They quite good there only problem will be they have a Lock and 8th man who might play for EP so if they dont go they will battle as these two boys are big and strong.
@rugbyfan: Selborne will have to play with 15 players before they pull that off…not gonna happen with Taylor still at the helm
@Queenian: What is he,s team like do they have a chance of winning there games.
@rugbyfan: Ye my son is still Under12 but at Muir they do not have Under12 so he is playing Under 13A.
The Under13 fesitaval i am speaking about is at Waterkloof Prep in Pretoria from the 21st June till the 24th. The schools taking part are: Waterkloof/St Albans/St Sithinians/Glenwood/Muir/St Andrew(Grahamstown) and a few other i dont remember all of them.
MC U16 A must be unbeaten this season , having a good run and producing some good results i read . Watched them at SKONK and was impressed with their pack and how they structured their play as a unit . everybody seemd to know where they were supposed to be and looked well organised . Northwood U16 A , after being so strong at U15 level seemed to not be as strong as last year . Any player movement ?? this age group is always so interesting and so close , with a few exceptional games !! Kearsney U16A have produced some good results this year , not sure if they have dropped any so far ?? Pedantic ??
@rugbyfan: @Queenian: ya when the backline clicks they’re devastating, so thumbs crossed for that to happen on Saturday
@rugbyfan: I just think his return to Queen’s would leave a bitter taste in a lot of people’s mouths, while not many would be vocal, there’d be a fair bit of tension
@rugbyfan: Selborne will never get 20 past Queens mate maybe the other way round.
@Ludz: Ye you right must admit if the Queens backline can get going maybe even a win there backline when firing must be one of the best in the country.
@rugbyfan: it would take a very poor Queen’s effort for that to happen, won’t be more than 10 point difference
@Queenian: @Ludz: Thats shocking is there know way they can get this kid to go back to Queens?
@Queenian: I stand to be corrected but to teach at Queens you first have to pass a Prison Warden course.
@Queenian: you aren’t serious, my word why did he agree to go to such nonsense?
@QC86: Dont you think Selborne will put 20 points past Queens this weekend or you not confident.
@star: thanks for the comments Star . Please read my last comment ” Take nothing away from the victors. ” that means you DHS!! , am saying well done , deserved win on the day . We are here to share ifo, our personal opinions , and have a bit of good rugby banter. Not explaining again !!
@Ludz: Shocking thing i heard the other day was that Ashton Fortuin has only played like 1 game this year so far apparently the school he,s at only play a few games a year what a mess.
@QC86: I see Dennis Giddy,s 3 son,s are at Queens Jnr all 3 are quite good players.
@BOG: Ye that would teach those Selbornians something. Ref would have to be a Prison Warden
@McCulleys Workshop: Hey Boet….what happened to you okes against Hilton ?????got smashed !!!and all over , i dont think you okes won an A team game ???
@Queenian: They might steal more than just the ball. They could well leave the field without pants and socks
@Ludz: @QC86: I think Queens Under16A should borrow some boys from JJS for the game with Grey Bloem okay and we in with a chance. At least then we can steal some of the ball.
@jakes: Jakes ek sien Monnas se 0/14, 15 en 16 spanne speel vir die eerste plek in die Nu Power. Met al drie spanne wat as gunstelinge beskou word vermoed ek Monnas gaan die algehele rugby wenners wees.
@GCollege86: Exactly, we fuss about results, human nature of course, but at the end of it all, it’s about 30 boys who were out there for 60 minutes, gave it their best and learnt a lot. Thereafter friendships are formed that last a lifetime, mutual respect. What time do the boys play tomorrow?
@QC86: haha, I think “captain” Scrappy’s young side would give our u16a side a good run, not a chance of Queen’s ever causing an upset against Selborne at u16 level, I just hope we can keep respectable. PROVE ME WRONG BOYS
@gimmie: Paul Roos played exceptionally well – they had a point to prove and they did just that! We lost our hooker in the first minute to injury (he is one of our top play-makers) and our flank who moved to hooker had his front tooth knocked clean out of his mouth a few minutes later – but he put the tooth in his pocket and played on till the end showing just what he is made of! Those two incidents hurt us – we lost most of our line-outs after that, however we defended like trojans and kept them to 0-3 right up to half time when they scored their first try – that try hurt us! In the second half their continued pressure started to tell and gaps started to open – and the rest, as they say, is history. Well done to Paul Roos – I believe they are back and will move steadily up the rankings from now onwards.
@QC86: As i said maybe they can defend Selborne out of the game or a space ship lands and offloads some players otherwise Selborne should get there first win in 4 games.
They really are poor but you never know.
@Ludz: @Queenian: The Selborne u16a side have lost 3 games in a row,with possibly a 4th straight loss tomorrow against a oldish New Zealand touring side[some 17 year olds in their side]so QC could be in with a good shout
For sure they learnt a lot. My son said that they had a chat to the Grey Bloem u16 boys after the game and the Selborne boys has the greatest respect for them. No doubt that they were the better team. They play a NZ touring team tomorrow. Hope they can use the game for preparation for Saturday’s game against QC.
@Queenian: no idea, will ask 1 of their boys
@GCollege86: was a tough fixture for the boys, as long as they enjoyed and learnt from it, it’s similar to what you do to us regularly
@Ludz: Any idea who Dale play this weekend?
@Ludz: I think the u15 was the only rugby team. Hockey and other sports did better, if you count debating as a sport
@Queenian: They managed to pull off quite a defensive effort against Dale, how much of that we can atribute to Dale knocking the ball on with the tryline beckoning on a number of occassions will become very clear this weekend
@GCollege86: Thanks, I see the Outeniqua game clashes with your boys’ game, am too scared to even watch that game, tell your boys to go easy on our boys
@Ludz: Maybe Under16A will pull off the defencesive game of the century off as that is one thing they have got alot better at, but besides that maybe a loss by at least 40 points.
@GCollege86: How many Selborne teams beat Grey Bloem i know under 15A did
@Queenian: yeah, I’ll be there, keen the age groups, u14 and u15, I’m almost to scared to watch the u16s
@star: My apologies but I think you misunderstood my comment. At no point did I comment that I was disappointed in Westville supporters in general. Firstly I would never be that arrogant or ignorant and secondly as I have very close ties with several Westville rugby families I have the utmost respect for your School. My comments were aimed directly at whoever instigated that ridiculous accusation before the game with BWS.
@Ludz: Fixtures for Saturday as follow – A Field: 1st @ 15:00, 2nds @ 13:45, 3rds @ 12:30, 4ths @ 11:20, 16A @ 10:10, 15A @ 09:00, 14A @ 08:00, B Field: 5ths @ 10:20, 6ths @ 11:30, 16B@ 09:10, 15B @ 08:00, 14B @ 12:40, C Field: 7ths @ 10:20, 8ths @ 09:10, 16C @ 08:00, 15C @ 13:40, 15D @ 12:30, 14C @ 11:30
@Ludz: You going to be at the Selborne vs Queens fixture this weekend
@Ludz: Also hope the centre gets back i think he pulled a ham string also 1 of the locks out and a wing, but you never know.
@Queenian: yeah, remember watching them get 50 from Dale at under 13 level, been a massive turnaround, I hear Koot Prinsloo who coached them last year and this year has made a massive difference. Don’t know Mr Prinsloo that, he started in 2012 at Queen’s. I like the look of our u15 flyhalf, quick and has great vision, not the best distributor, but he’ll improve.
@Ludz: @QC86: Tertuis Louw left Queens in 1979 and was the flanker i ever saw at schoolboy level he was big and fast he also played for Free State but his promising career only lasted 1 and half season dues to a career ending injury.
Ludz: Selborne Under15 should be to good for Queens specially with all the injuries Queens have but this is a age group which has gone from loosing 90% of there games in Under13,s to maybe only a couple this year so i think things look promising for them.
Well done Hilton on the great win over House. The 42 points scored is I am sure a record and could have been more had Wright not missed 6 kicks.(previous highest was 40 by House) I have been told he controlled the game like a magician. Schools must not take the Whites too lightly this year ( Westville were definitely happy to get that early win against them.) It does not get any easier for House as they have Kearsney this weekend followed by College and Westville (all away)
@ Flyparent- I think your U16A loss to College did not do Westville any favors. The boys could have become complacent and looked ahead to the KES game. The old saying” Game by game “was brought home with a vengence and hopefully the lesson has been learnt.There is no denying Schools team effort and commitment on the day and you would be hard pressed to find a Westville parent/supporter who would not agree. I think one parent was told something and wanted clarification on the blog which he received and accepted. This does not warrant you to make a comment about being very disappointed by Westville supporters in general. Credit has been given to School but we still have to look to our processes to find answers as that was a huge collective form collapse on the part of Westville.
@BOG: spoke to Simon Bolze’s dad and he says he was u15 when Mr Louw finished at Queen’s, all speak very highly of his playing ability
@BOG: Louw is still injured, he didn’t play on Saturday, the lad QC86 is reffering to would be Luan Reydners and he did bloody well
@QC86: that would be great, any idea what time Scrappy and Grant play, keen to watch the young lads again
@QC86: Well, more than 10 years ago, Brendan Venter said that what separated GCB from other teams, were the skill levels. @beet: He was such a special player (and by all accounts, human being) that I can forgive him for playing for the BBs. As I forgive those who cross the Drakensberg to the East Coast
@BOG: But Ruben Kruger played for the Vrystaat and Blou Bulle
Can’t you find a hero closer to east coast to compare this youngster to 
@Ludz: there is a TV near the selborne pool and bar area,we can hookup on Sat and i will show you.@BOG: i did not know that,but shucks he was good,alot bigger than Ruben was.Greys pace and skill levels were amazing,what i found interesting was their main sides had 3 coaches per side.,
I cannot help laughing about the comments here about Grey being “lucky” that they are not playing Gym this year. You only need to look at their annual fixture list, year after year, to know that they have never avoided strong opposition. Unfortunately, these “accusations” normally come from supporters of schools which are not always that consistent in producing strong sides. So, we see almost every year, these suggestions/accusations being leveled its been going on for decades. And of course, the players being human, one could hardly expect them to extend their season even further
@QC86: You do know that the no7 of Grey is the son of an OQ. I believe, according to Queenian, that his dad, was rated as the best flank to ever play for Queens (Tertius Louw) Some see him as a “future” Ruben Kruger.
@ Hanswors_ Goed dat die twee Mpumalanga skole die finaal gemaak het, behoort ‘n riller te wees. Maar ek kan nie help on te dink hoe Garsfontein/ EG Jansen nie in die finaal speel nie>?Die 2 spanne het net saterdag beter gelyk as die res, meer afgerond en baie meer kliniese rugby gespeel. Moet se EG pak voorspeler briljant met lynstane en dryfbewegings, hulle het 2 of drie driee so gedruk wat Monnas nie onder beheer kon kry nie. Seker met ‘n bietjie meer geluk, tuisveldlvoordeel en beter weer, kon dit anders gewees het. Nou die beeld at voorle, sal dan ‘n beter prentjie kry met Waterkloof wat ingesluit is..
@valke: EG se 12 en 13 self was vir my goed op die dag. Die valke kan beslis ‘n goeie Craven Week span kies. Was weereens verstom oor die beskikbare talent. Tov die laaste 4 wedstryde van die dag het elke span masiewe voorspelers gehad. No 4 slotte van EG, Kempies, Woeries, Garsies en almal baie groot fisieke slotte. Een speler wat ook vir my uitgestaan het was die no 3 van HTS. Klasieke vasskop wat na willekeur ‘n “regter skouer” kon inkry. Die klein Pumas kan self ‘n omgekrapte CW span kies. Groot voories wat domineer met seker een van die beste stelskoppers in die land in die Nellies 15.
@Hanswors: Hanswors op die dag se spel kan Monnas nie regtig hoer as 7 wees. Vermoed die ander spanne is is tans op beter vorm as Monnas. Monnas en Kempies behoort ‘n goeie wedstryd te wees.
@QC86: Is there no TV anywhere on the Selborne campus, would love to catch Grey vs Outeniqua
@QC86: didn’t the no.5 come off early or was it the no.4, a lock came off early
@Gungets Tuft: As far as I know it was exactly the same team that played on Wednesday and Saturday except for Simpson at 9 and a flank who were both injured during Wednesday’s game. Both were replaced by B team players. Simpson did play off the bench for a blood replacement and again towards the end of the game on Saturday. He also appeared to be very involved and supportive from the sideline. IMHO the U16A team just did not “pitch up” on Wednesday and were by far the superior team with regards to playing as a team and with passion on Saturday. Maybe they were a little under rated by the Westville team because of the College result? Great result for School and hopefully these boys can keep playing at this level for the rest of the season. Very disappointed to see Westville supporters claiming that this team played with boys who do not attend School! What a lot of rubbish! just give credit where credit is due!
@Speartackle: Kwaggas beat Paarlboys and GCB. I also think GCB is lucky thy not playing Gym this year. That Gym side looks like a well oiled machine.
@beet: Greys first team no 5 and no7 had very good games,i thought Greys scrummy was brilliant
@Queenian: Selborne u14 have a few stars out, so hopefully that evens things out a bit
Our u15s will struggle against that Selborne, they’re a very good side, likewise I also we’ve got a good side, so hopefully it’ll be close
Wynberg 19 – 15 Grey. And the ‘Berg go marching on on on!
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Anyone notice how much time the DHS 2nd team coach spent on the field on Saturday – looked like he was trying to coach the refereee as well ! I thought we had rules about that ! What was nice to see however was the enthusiasm from the DHS boys on the far side stands – they never stood back from their support inspite of the bath that the open teams were taking. By the way the dude with the long coat who was firing them up needs a place on SA got talent !
Looks like it’s a secret how many games Grey Bloem and PaarlBoys High have lost this season.
When will that 1000 day unbeaten run start again?
I think Grey Bloem can be very lucky they’re not playing Paarl Gim this year.
@Grasshopper: It will be Glenwood’s first home game. I know that the Grade 8s and many of their parents are really psyched for this game.
I think it was Westers who commented about the photographer being in the fenced off area during the game. According to Boksmart they are allowed there on condition that they are Boksmart accredited AND that they do not interfere with the game or game officials. I generally don’t have a problem when I am in that area but photographers who do touch the ball, ruin it for the rest of us. I have observed some photographers 1/2 way across the field while taking photos – they obviously haven’t been tackled yet.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: We are talking about the U16’s here??
Lost big to College then beat a Westville team with a bit of a reputation?
@Woltrui: As jy Kempton se 10, 12, 13 agter daai EG pak sit, dink ek het jy goeie kombinasie vir Craven week. Vat niks weg van enige ander skool wat ook gaan aanspraak maak vir plekke nie. Ek dink net daai 3 sal “n sterk Eg pak net nog gevaarliker maak.
@Ludz: Thats is how Grey Bloem have always played through all there teams thats what makes them so good.
A bit of a damper i think has been put on the QC vs Selborne Under14/15 A team games for this coming week as i hear Delano Smith out due to Hamstring and 3 Under 15 boys out due to injury. Great pity.
@Stormberg Mountains:
QUEEN’S COLLEGE RUGBY FIXTURES 2013
DATE OPPOSITION VENUE TEAMS
16 March Border Schools Day KWT 1st
16 March Grens Festival Grens u15A,u14A
21 March (Thurs) Graeme College Festival Graeme 1st,u15A,u14A
30 March-3 April Pietermaritzburg Festival Maritzburg 1st
Affies/Jeppe/MC
13 April Noord Kaap Home All
20 April Dale College (QC Reunion) Home All
27 April Bye
1 May Marlow Home All
4 May Selborne College Away All
11 May Grey High School (Grey Reunion) Away All
18 May Kingswood College Away All
25 May Hudson Park Home All
1 June St Andrew’s College Home All
8 June Stirling High School Away All
Cape School’s (Paarl Gym) Away 1st
20 July Port Rex Away All
27 July Selborne College Home All
3 August Hudson Park Away All
8 August Cambridge High School Home All
17 August Dale College Away All
The Noord Kaap game was cancelled by NC but is defiantely on for next year.
@Gungets Tuft:
Huge turnaround in which way? As in they went backward against Westville or they played better?
@Queenian: Sir i see you have the fixture list for QC, if you don’t mind can you paste it as a comment, i don’t know what teams we play now, heard Kingswood, Noort-Kaap came in, and dropped a couple, i’ll be anticipating your reply
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Were the teams that played against College and then Westville the same. If not, what were the changes, because it seems like a huge turnaround in the space of 4 days.
@School:
Maybe he just naturally lokks like that hey lol. But yeah, I too hope that nothings un-repairable and that its all done for 2016. It all starts with next years grade 8 group though !!
Any coaches in the KZN area? Looking for games for U14/15 Sevens team – please contact me.
Well done HTS Witbank
@HORSEFLY NO.1: he didn’t look to happy when I saw him. I hope nothing is beyond repair, 2016 is around the corner.
@Tierklou: Drie steke later en daai geelkaarte laat ‘n man maar kook, maar ‘n ou koel mos maar af later. Terug by die rugby, moet ek meld beide die Tiere se 2des en 1stes is goed gecoach, speel volgens strukture en 1ste lyn van verdediging sterk. Game was oor toe Jean Strydom, Bellville se 10, van die veld is. Groot hart, groot voet en boonop ‘n puik krieketspeler. Vir die Tiere was TJ weer puik, hoop hy kry CW erkenning. Ag lekker sterk, maar moet werk aan werkverrigting. Hulle sal moeilik geklop word in die Premier B hierdie jaar.
n Nuwe Nupower kampioen gaan gekroon word!!! n Suid Oos Transvaal (Mmapumalanga) finaal , Kan nie glo Monnas se eerstes speel vir 7 of 8 ste plek nie!
@gimmie: Plenty of changes to the team. New scrummy, fly half and inside centre. Daniel du Plessis back after a year at 12.
@beet: very impressed by 8thman Andries Kriek, the front row also really good, exceptional work rates. In the backs Julian Jordaan had a quiet 1st half, distributed well though, he was really dangerous in the 2nd half, his grubbers used to good effect getting behind the Selborne defensive line, the boy has got vision. Carel Durow and EW Viljoen were brilliant in the centres, even though EW had a terrible day with the boot, he missed about 5 conversions. Scrummie not too bad either
The hands were exceptional in that team, seems to be a Grey thing as well, hands are beautiful throughout the age groups. This was the 1st derby where I really got to see them from u14 up, they do the basics well and I think that’s an integral part of their success
@Ludz: Hey Ludz. What did you think of the Grey College 1st XV? Did anyone impress you much?
@BOG: I reckon that Selborne u15 side is onto something special, the Grey side just came up against a very good side, they absorbed a lot of pressure from a good Grey side, the game was played in tremendous spirit. Both teams played well for the full 60 minutes. Best game I saw yesterday
The most surprising result of the weekend for me was the comprehensive victory of Paul Roos against SACS. Nobody saw that coming after the SACS victory against Ploeg’s boys and Paul Roos’ dismal start to the season. Wildeklawer will show whether it was a once off. Roos plays Affies so that will tell us.
@School:
Haha I don’t know hey. Was good to see Leon Erasmus at DHS yesterday. Hope he makes a telling difference to School !!
@Ploegskaar: Ek stem saam, en ek het die o19C wedstryd gekyk en nie die o16A nie, dat vuisslaan nie hoort op skole vlak nie. Moet egter nie respek verloor oor een insident nie. Tiere was ook al baie aan die ontvang kant wat vuilspel betref.
Vir verder kennis, Tygerberg se o19B wen 50-3; o19C wen 56-0 en o19D wen 84-0.
I’m sure there was something mentioned a while back about a school benefiting from understanding the age law, where they could play an u16 provided there were no U19’s in the opposition team or his own?
@School:
Yeah time will tell and I don’t think its too long till the 1st eound of trials now!!
No they can’t trial since a ruling was passed this year that no U16 boys are allowed to play U19/U18 rugby.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: most boys you’ve mentioned should get at least one cap next year and yes Febana Ntuli and Simo stand a chance at KZN aswell I guess only time will tell.
Because cravenweek is U18 and not U19, would any promising U16boys(not refering to DHS boys) be able to trial a year early as the Dupreez twins did in 2011??
@Sir Pius: hi Sir, I agree with your comments, although it is difficult to curtail outspoken and hostile parents, I have no doubt that they should be dealt with, and shouldn’t be allowed on the side line, for the sake of their kids and the reputations of their schools.
@School:
But Febana would have to fight with Roberts for that position next year although I do agree that he has been doing well and looks promising thus far. I also rate him for KZN selection too.
I also think that Simo is also good enough for KZN but will have to fight for that 1st team jersey as the current scrummie is in grade 11. But for sure Ntuli should make it at #8 next year. I do think that Whitfield,Noot and Bryan aren’t bad either. Maybe not 1st team next year but will be good quality in 2015?
@horsefly NO.1 If whitfield could bulk up a bit he could also be in with a chance, has a good rugby brain.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: the U16 hooker Febana looks promising
NO.9Simo isn’t happy with his form but on a good day he is your man.
NO.8. Ntuli aslo a giant and solid runner
NO.7 Ndaba should come close
What do you think?
@HORSEFLY NO.1: I admit Richard Thomas has been hugely dissapointing so far this season! But the lock has done anything but dissapoint,but u entitled to your opinion and only time will tell wether he is Good enough or not! Look forward to seeing u along side the field sometime.. And just to add,if I competing jumper is a metre or even half a metre in front of you,not even Andries Bekker will be able to win his own Ball no matter how long your arms are or how good u think you are
@School:
Oh this RugbyIML is the same person who praised Thomas to no end so I rather not entertain that. Rather, I’d like to talk about which U16 players have a chance of making 1st next year in your opinion
Nu power semi’s: Wedstryde gesien. 2de halfte van Garsies Erries wedstryd. EG MONNAS. 2 Top 4 Semi’s.
Fisiek baie harder wedstryde as die “vriendskaplike” en feeswedstryde. EG Jansen vir my persoonlik die beste op die dag.
Woeries miskien gelukkig om gelyk te eindig met HTS. Onderskep drie met HTS op aanval. HTS laaste 10 minute met 14 man op veld. Worries se no 2 baie goed .Nelspruit een van die kleiner pakke voories. Briljante no 6 (druk solo drie waar hy bal op Kempies se 10m lyn kry en om of oor 6 verdedigers hardloop) Baie effektief by losskrums en losgemale. My speler van die dag. Die gedeelte van die wedstryd wat ek gesien het van Garsies was die 12 uitstaande. Goeie hande, vinnig en sterk.
@rugbyismylife:
Why do I get the feeling you are of some relation to the player in question?
That 15 meter run ended in an ofload to an opposition player and also how poor is a throw to be missed by a player of that arm span.I’m sure that’s where skill comes in.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Jumping in the front of the line out where the other lock jumps has very little to do with a Good throw,its more about who is the quicker jumper and who is more physical in the air,where as jumping in the middle or at the back of the linout is all on the throw,which wasn’t up to scrap at all! I know this as I was a lock and jumper in my Days..
@Rugbyismylife:
Haha that’s funny since School and I have the same opinion on him. I didn’t see all of that from him. And as far as the line-outs go, the other lock was very good in them so I’m not too sure if what you are saying is too accurate hey.
@Ludz: I believe that the Cherries have a very good side. And someone mentioned that the FH is really good? So, this victory has not come as a big surprize. But what has, was the result of the U15s. GCB have played some serious teams this year (and beaten them) and “rated”, until yesterday as No 1 in SA. Either Selborne has an exceptional team or GCB had a bad day. Whatever the reason, a very good result for Selborne and should serve as strong motivation over the next 2-3 years.
@School: You can’t expect him to whin his lineouts when the Hooker throws the Ball into westville hands..throwing has been a problem for DHS and it showed yesterday! As to ball carries,the 4 times he Ran with the Ball he Gained about 4-5 metres on every run,Except for the Break he made which gained about 15 metres..of what I saw ,I saw him securing 90% of the Rucks..His Talent under the High Ball was excellent..And about 5-8 Good Tackles,which u don’t see much of from a 2m Tall lock..so I’m not to sure if u watched the same Game..That’s just my Opinion and everyone else I was watching the Game with
@Speartackle: ooo magtig!!! wat gecoach SpearTjie??
miskien moet jy by Oom Hans gaan inval. daai manne kry swaar. maar dan is EG seker nie jou maklikste customers nie!!
@School: as said earlier that’s what mentioned before the game and exactly why I asked for DHS feedback , to clarify if correct or not !thanks for the confirmation and well done to a good Team effort from DHS in that game . BIG turnaround from 60-3 loss midweek. Please tell us how you did it in 3 days as we have a week to do the same before KES. Imho I think our boys overdid fitness this past week and all looked a bit sluggish on Sat. Prob in prep for thinner JHB air next weekend. Missed our no 6 at ruck time and while had the better at scrum time the missing no 2(beast) was missed in securing our line outs . But sometimes losses are vital to move forward. Take nothing away from the victors.
@School:
Well I completely agree with youu
@Ludz: Bog said they were better than Grey’s 1st 15
@ Horsefly and Greenblooded. I agree with your comments regarding parents. Some parents behave like morons and I personally think that schools shouldn’t allow parents to be on the sidelines, they need to provide stands for parents . Some of the comments made by parents are shocking. There’s a spectators code of conduct but I doubt that any parents look at that.
@ Horsefly I must say I was impressed with the school spirit. I enjoyed watching your warcry leader. Good luck to both schools as they travel to Jhb next week.
@Speartackle: En nou die Ingels gee nie om as jy vir breg regte bietjie Frans spreek nie maar Ingels. Regtig.
Affies/Waterkloof joining. Sien jy praat nog steeds stront van vroeg af. Het jy geen maniere daar anderkant geleer nie.
@BWS:
Please elaborate further on these so called development players?
My word, those Cherries are a quality side, they slaughtered Selborne, 82-7, didn’t watch much of the game, but geez the little I did watch was fantastic
@horsy NO.1:
Define his job as a 2.05m 115-120kg lock
•win line outs?didn’t happen
•rucking, not good
•ball carries,also not good
•tackles? Watch a video and you’ll be surprised.
One ball carry or one good tackle in a full game is not enough in modern rugby. IMO he is a passenger and one or to player in the backs need to be replaced with their better defensive counter parts.
@BWS:
There was not a single development player playing for DHS yesterday!! Don’t know WHAT would make people start these rumours!
Ou Tjoppie
I’ve been in France coaching so I missed most of the pre season here but it doesn’t look good boet. Don’t know if Hans’ new running rugby is the right thing although with such a small pack what else do you do. I think Hans will have a 3 or 4 year plan.
When is the Affies/Klofies game……………..I believe the bond has grown so intimate between the 2 schools they’re thinking of joining.
@Amalekite:
I honestly think that they are too comfortable. Problem is, there isn’t real depth there as most matrics have decided not to play. Think it was mentioned that only about 7 of the U16A of two years ago is still playing so you have grade 11 trying to fill out a lot of the spots and even end up having U16B players from last year in the 2nd team. If this years U16A continue improving then maybe next year we will be in a position to drop all these 1st team players . Westville have KZN U16 players in their 2nd team so they are in a great position!
@Rugbyismylife:
His defence and attack is exactly what worries me. Not good enough.
@Speartackle: What is wrong with Monnas?
Looks like another sad year for West Rand rugby…………I should never have left the Beloofde Land.
Paarl Gim great yesterday
I like the Kwaggas Choir Boys on this blog………………keep it up boys……………yesterday just n glipsie. That number 10 is potent……………..reminds me of myself back in the late fifties.
Gim number 7……………this boy is a monster…………..so is the 5……….and the 3
Have the number 2 school in Paarl played the Kwaggas yet? Who won?
Its been a nice holiday……………….but I’m back………..
BIGGER AND BADDER
Paarl Gym have just proved that they are the school to beat this year in SA.
It would not surprise me if they have an unbeaten season.
Outeniqua are also a great team. However, once again, I believe that their weakness is their 2 huge props that are not as mobile as you need them to be at this level. At KERF, you would have expected their 863kg pack to destroy everyone at scrum time. This was not the case at all. so what is the point then ?
@HORSEFLY NO.1: heard before the game! That’s why I am asking the question if what I heard was in fact correct or not .
@HORSEFLY NO.1: I fully agree with what u saying,but by saying he’s a passenger when he does his Job on defence,attack ,set phases,not to sure what more you expect? DHS work with one Pod on a defensive. Line out,the rest are there to apply pressure on 9 and 10. IMO he has done really well so far
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Unfortunately fitness cannot be fixed in one week. I was under the impression that you guys had had a decent pre-season ? I just think that you need to look at promoting players from the lower teams who are fitter and hungrier than some of your passengers. If not, you are basically telling the passengers that the way they are playing is acceptable.
We have seen huge improvements in some of our players that have been dropped. They are working harder to try and make it back into the 1sts. Having said that. most of the guys that were promoted took their opportunities with both hands. They will most probably only lose their place if they do not keep it up, or if they get injured.
The impression that I get is that the 1sts at DHS are quite comfortable. Am I wrong ?
@Rugbyismylife:
Oh yes he is one of the one that are seen as passengers in that team. Very tall but highly ineffective in my opinion. Needs to play better and be more physical. He seems to be everywhere but not really making an effect in the game. Was disappointed by his performance. You would expect more from a 2.05m tall lock
@HORSEFLY NO.1: I’m talking about the DHS #5 the very tall one
@Rugbyismylife:
Which one are you speaking of? One of them has been good while the other has been below average so I’m not sure which you speak of.
@Amalekite:
So true. And I also think fitness levels are a real concern within this team and nneeds to be fixed before Parktown next weekend
DHS 1st team needs to get rid of their passengers. There is no room for them in the modern game.
If you lined up most rugby teams these days, without knowing their positions, you would battle to guess them. This is clearly not the case for the DHS 1st team. To add insult to injury, it is not as though they are great in the set pieces either, so why hang onto guys that walk around and do not tackle?
Please take this as constructive criticism.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Has been a very dissapointing season so far for DHS. The DHS lock seemed to impress me with his hungerness to Run with the Ball and never. Backed down on Defence and at Ruck time. Both Against College and Westville he made to promising Runs IMO. That’s my take on it
@BWS:
And which Development players are those that played ??!!
Regarding U16A WBHS vc Dhs agree WB not being the better team on the day . Boys seemed flat and lacked the real hunger to win as a team . The comments on them not training this past week are untrue, they had their normal practices. Please can a Dhs supporter comment on the Development players,who don’t even attend the school playing in the team . If this is the case , what is happening to schoolboy rugby , when ur B team benches ?? Or are we entering a professional era when we ‘import players from other regions to bolster a side hit with injuries !!
I hear that Selborne Under15A beat GCB that a good omen for Selborne in a few years time.
Marlow keeps winning good for them big game up against Queens on Wednesday at the Rec should be interesting.
@grassy- dont worry. It will not be GW on Dixons. However College on Gillies??
It seems like the only top u16 team that hasn’t lost yet this is College. Still a few games left and as seen in the past few weeks, anything can happen depending on the day and the team mindset. I think the Westville u16 A’s need to ‘lift’ their heads up as its KES next week, and they’ll probably have 1 practise this coming week as Wednesday is a holiday. Again welldone to the School 16 A, they were the better team on the day. On McHardy I do agree that he should be at 9 as the current 9 plays better at flyhalf. @ Horsy : Your 14 A backline produces moments of brilliance at times from nothing. Good hands, amazing steps. Thought our 14A’s did well to hold on till the last ten minutes, but let the foot off the pedal in those last minutes.
@Grasshopper: sorry my bad
thought you were being serious 
@beet: it was a tongue in cheek comment. Maybe if the Glenwood game was played in the dry the score might have been worse, who knows. Hilton are the dark horses this year, they will spring a few surprises, knowing Glenwood it will be them……
@GreenBlooded:
Haha the poor man was trying to break things up but made matters worse with the swearing etc. But yeah, Schoeman is a good #8. Think MHS,DHS,WBHS and Glenwood U14A sides all have good #8’s and so too Kearsney.
@Westers:
Yeah I think that the Westville side is definitely one with talent and is for the future if the structures can be sorted. I have to say, was impressed at how the DHS #9 controlled the game.
And which from the two schools do you think will be pushing for KZN U16A selection this year?
As for 2nd, Westville was just much,much better and is packing loads of talent there. Very clinical victory!
Yeah I agree with all your points about 1st team. One of the locks for DHS is quite disappointing for me. Think its the 2 metre tall one. They just never seemed to want to win this one
@Westers: Obviously I did not see the game but after the College-DHS which the Westville coaches did watch, they would have picked up good intel. DHS forwards are passive in that they do not generate go-forward platforms, their lineout is over elaborated as well + after a long time out prior to the College game (over a month), fitness is a serious issue . DHS’s key attack centres around 10-12-13. Neutralise the 10 by taking away the immediate diagonal pocket space that he likes to run lines in and DHS struggles for a playbook.
Now I wonder if DHS had the same initiative as the Westville coaching staff and took the opportunity to go to KERF and watch Westville or even go to the Pretoria BH game to pick up value info. For me with DHS’s tall locks I would have worked overtime to make sure Westville had to go long on their own ball come lineout time. Even so College did find the gaps at will in the first half vs DHS so tightening up D was a huge must ahead of the Westville game.
@Grasshopper: House had a month off between Namibia and Glenwood. If anything they should have learnt some hard lessons and gained value game time against Glenwood in preparation for Hilton. For example I arrived just assuming that Hilton’s attempts to go wide would be shut down completely since that is where Glenwood did the most damage against House but Hilton’s wings, reserve wing and fullback had a field day. Plenty of ball and they made inroads galore.
Being softened up after such a long break would not say much about them. Conditioning is not the MHS issue.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: in the U14 the big boys made the difference in the end. DHS deserved the win. The Westville side looks like it needs more structure in the game plan.
As I said previously, the Westville U15 played really well and deserved their win. Two tries to nil and the DHS boys lying down on the field in disappointment at the end tells it all.
U16 was a deserved win for DHS. Westville played as a bunch of individuals and white line fever got to them on a couple of occasions. DHS looked better drilled and were more cohesive. On todays performance Westville have no players in the U16A’s who will be pushing for 1st team next year. It will be all matrics.
I have to comment on 2nd team. This shows a schools depth. It was one way traffic in this game. Westville showed they have depth with quite a few players putting up their hands.
1st team, I thought at home DHS would put in a better effort. They have some tall timber in the lineouts but couldn’t dominate and even lost a few on their own throws. I thought the Westville jumpers, No 5 in particular, had really good game, McHardy at 10 was in a class of his own. Outplayed Webster. He may be small in stature but he is all heart and brain. DHS have a big front row but they do not look fit. DHS need to work on defence or they are going to lose games that they might be expected to win.
@NW_Knight: The Northwood people around me told be it was a Northwood U14 boy doing the video work. Doesn’t matter who it was, but the video is there and obviously available. Chuck i ton Yuo Tube – make interesting watching actually. College pinged 12 times for work on the ground. The ref actually spoke to a College staff member afterwrds and said “sorry man, it was a lot of penalties, but it was hands in”. Northwood had no such issues, despite the ball popping out on their side long, long after the ruck had formed. Such is life, even you fancy new scoreboard doesn’t have a Remarks column, so there is goes.
As for the results this year being better – not really. Last years scores in brackets.
In U16 the scores are all worse. This year A 37-5? (36-0), B 37-0 (34-0) D 22-0 (23-8).
Under 15 the same .. A 28-0 (3-0), B (against the College D team this year, the C team last year) I left at 1/2 time I think it was already 18-0 (34-0), C (vs College E this year, C last year) 39-0 (23-8).
Under 14’s were all better this year
Hey, good luck, I hope it works, but I heard some hecticly dissatisfied parents on the stands. Take a walk down there, sit and listen. You don’t have to speak Lituanian, Dutch, Shona or Danish to know they are p#ssed off. I am not sure victory is going to change that.
@School: Witnessed that Westville No 8 against PBHS last weekend. Special player. Will be one to watch.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Parents pushing who? A player? That is grounds for SERIOUS action if true. Howeverr – therein lies the clue. You very seldom see a flare-up on a school field when the are calm spectators on the sidelines.
@Horsefly NO.1:
The stepping in the U14A backline, is definitely something to write home about!!
That westville wing and NO.8 also very fast and strong caused havoc every time they got ball.
@beet: Glenwood softened House up for Hilton. Maybe morale is low there, hence the need for an experienced spine! Hilton must have a good few imports in….
@Westers: I thought based on Hilton’s previous results coupled with home ground advantage that they would win it but the one sided nature of the game and the score were both shocks
@beet: The score might have been a surprise but I don’t think the result was. I think glenwood showed last week that MHS are not that strong this year. I haven’t seen MHS play this year but Hilton were always in the game against Westville and a\i think they are a useful side who may cause an upset or two this season.
@Tjoppa:
As jy nou die Wynberg een met my gecheck het, dan was dit volpunte, pols my vir die Kaapse spanne en ek los die noorde vir jou 
@Tjoppa: Thanks
@Westers:
Haha that was not the case in the 5th vs 6th game. From what I saw a Westville boy took to heart a BIG tackle by a DHS boy and retaliated unnecessarily. All of a sudden there was a flurry of players from both sides and a parent pushing each other around and the game was called. Westville seems to be fitter and not better than the DHS side there.
What’s your thought on the U14A,U15A,U16A and 1st XV games today?
@beet:
Defenitely agreed, it was highly competetive. Yeah that DHS boy who scored the 1st try and kicked was also impressive for me. I also liked the #10 from DHS. Funny enough that WBHS #8 played wing for KZN so he must have quite bit of pace on him too.
I think that DHS just uses its big boys quite well.a 3 try blitz at the end helped end matters too
@beet: Will send you their numbers.
Geez! I went to Hilton today. Talk about surprises
@Tjoppa: Yes. Can you hook me up to talk to the headmasters of Affies and Klofies??? Please
@HORSEFLY NO.1: It was actually a very competitive game for about 2/3 of the match. Westville led 7-5 at a stage but in the end DHS won the war of attrition. Westville started to fall off the tackles on those big DHS carriers. Not so much fluent rugby that did Westville in as much as it was big ground gaining carries in traffic. There was also one brilliant kick ahead by a big DHS player and a good chase. Agreed that the Westville no.8 looks like a very good player. He reminded me of an EG Jansen no.8 from a few years back – Ruaan Lerm.
@Gungets: Not arguing that College deserved the win – they did. What I was saying, is that it was not “one way traffic” in the 1st team game. There was some bad defending, but there were some good runs as well. 2 missed opportunities, 2 soft tries – it could’ve gone either way (difference was 13 points – less than 2 tries).
Not sure about U14 injury?? Was it a College boy?
My voorspellings noem net die wenners.
Westville 42-3, Maritzburg College 26-13. Grey Bloem 41-5, Grey PE Oops, MArlow 34-19, Paul Roos 32-0, Menlopark 27-17, Affies 36-18, Waterkloof 43-14, PretoriaBoysHigh 56-3, HTS Middelburg 30-30, Nelspruit 42-23, Garsfontein 55-20 en die groot Paarl Gym 37-25.
93% correct ask me if you want to know anything regarding rugby.
@NW_Knight: Not going to improve if you buy Into the first team. It is a temporary success, in terms of wins not even a success. The NW backs last year were streets ahead of this year, just did not have the pack to give them ball. Promising kids are going to go elsewhere, mark my words, if they have no faith that the school will back them all the way.
Me – I think there are egos at play there, or a sponsor that needs payback. Not only my thoughts, told to my face today.
Where did you sit at the game. Just to the north of the covered stand is where you should be if you want to judge the mood of the parents.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Don’t know what the cause of the fight in the 6ths was. did hear that the DHS linesman kicked a Westville player but I don’t have facts. Are you saying it was Westvilles fault? No fight in schoolboy rugby is good though. If blame lies with Westville I would hope action is taken against the guilty boys.
With regard to the opens, remember Westville 4ths played DHS 3rds. Westville 3rds had a bye today although I have to be honest and say a couple did play in the 4ths and the 2nds had a bench full that they used at half time. The score in the 4ths vs 3rds game was 29-0 and the game was called by the DHS ref after only playing just over 15 minutes in the second half. Not sure why. If this game had gone the distance the score would have gone over 40 and maybe even 50.
@NW_Knight: Didn’t see the College boy, just the NW boy, apparently one of the U14 squad, broken arm or something?
Perhaps the charge down was a bit soft, but not too bad for the utterly dominated College team to get that close to the NW line and capitalise on poor defending
@Gungets: Also, look at the NW results this year (U14d – 1st team) and you will see that the results in 90% of the games are far better than last year. It’s a process, but things are improving. 1st team score last year was 43-6.
@Gungets Tuft: Eeisch, typing on a phone. I am sure you can make sense of it, but I didn’t see any soft tries, but some pretty good running, especially in support. I can’t believe that your total domination, with College going backwards, would result in poor defending on your part.
@Gungets Tuft:
Well done to College on the wins.
Eish you missed out on a good game against Westville for U14A today. DHS started out really well with a good try but Westville started playing well and scored before halftime to lead 7_-5 at HT. 2nd half started same way thatt 1st ended with Westville playing well as their no.11 and no.8 were devestating. DHS picked up their game and scored 3 tries in about 7 minutes to win 25-7. Wicked steps from the DHS backs !!
@Gungets: Seem to think one of the lighties on the deck was a College boy and 2 is not a posse. Yes, no arguments about the points. Soft try – charge down try. Take off the tinted glasses!!
Yay I’ve made the headlines. Goody goody.
@NW_Knight: And the one way traffic all day comment was a out the games all day. I don’t have all the scores but in few games did NW get on the board. Lots of wins to zero I there. Not once did I say College 1sts dominated, I said they did not look like scoring. As for the soft tries, I didn’t we any. Good forward try and then some good running from the backs to create gaps.
You guys had a lighty manning a posse of video cameras on the deck of the Jubilee Room, drop the video on YouTube, we can judge for ourselves.
@Westers:
I don’t know hey. Apart from 1st and 2nd I thought DHS open teams didn’t do bad at all and it was definitely better than previous years. Westville boys in 3rd,4th and 5th are better conditioned and that was the main difference.
Look, yes I know that it was wrong but that doesn’t mean that the behaviour of the parents should be ignored. Lots to fix at DHS but same goes for Westville…I’m sure Westville won’t be proud of their 6th side and the ‘fight’.
@star:
Yeah those two had big games!! Seems to be big competition for KZN no.8 which is good. I have to say, the pace of the Westville wings in all A sides is SCARY!! One of their U14 wings. Made me very nervous when he got ball!!
As far as U16 goes, credit must also go to coach Dru Nass in my opinion.
@GreenBlooded:
Rugby was in the A team games. In the 1st game it wasn’t in my opinion. Think it had to do with the ease that Westville won…
@ Rhino- Do not push GB. We might come off second best
@ Westers- I agree with you 100% . You would hope that the KZN selectors would be able to see this as a positive. At KERF Reece-Edwards seems to have got the jump as he was playing in his preferred position. Did you notice how many big hits McHardy put in today? There is no deficiency. However I like the scrummy as well who gave great service and was a live wire ion the field. It is difficult to call.
Can anyone tell me, was the KES loss to Menlopark expected?
Yep, Gim did as I said they would, dominate up front especially the loose trio and strangle Outeniqua. Best side in the country for sure. Schinkerling, Vermeulen, Bothma and the blonde centre are SA schools for sure!
@NW_Knight: In the lead for quite a while. From two penalties. How many times I that period of domination did they make it into the College 22??… At all ?
I cannot remember thinking that the College line was at risk, even the try was not from structured play.
And the reference to foul play – where were you sitting. I was 5m from the oke when he went off, if he claims foul play then he is looking for excuses. His replacement was a huge improvement in mobility.
And how come you didn’t turn this total domination and territory I to points. You had enough penalties, I lost count. Territory + penalties = points … Yes?
Other than the grunt up front there was little evidence of threat, and the Northwood parents around me agreed. All I heard all afternoon was bitterness about the state of affairs, mainly the costly imports that have taken the spots of long standing Northwood boys. If you have the ear of the management there then I suggest you warn them of internal revolt. I said it to Horse 1 last night, heard it first hand tonight. Short term (lack of) success and then the imports are gone, leaving Northwood without the support of their own parents.
@Tjoppa: I should have borrowed that money from you to take a bet on Paarl Gim. Just finished watching the game as I had recorded it. They were the best side.
@Rhino: Glenwood play Hilton at home on our beloved Dixons, quite a fortress for us. Glenwood are building nicely, two big wins builds the confidence. If they can win a game at Wildeklawer and stay injury free I would back Glenwood vs Hilton at Glenwood, but who knows.
Results:
Rondebosch vs Stellenberg
u14a S’Berg won 15-14
u15a drew 5-5
u16a R’Bosch won 75-0
u19a R’Bosch won 31-16
Tygerberg vs Bellville
u14a T’Berg won 20-10
u15a T”Berg won TBA
u16a Brito’s Bellville won 29-3
u19a T’Berg won 59-6
To the T’Berg/B’ville u16 ref, sis, 3 yellows for B’ville and a red to T’Berg for a punch from behind, typical home town ref and to the boy that threw that cowardly punch, you have made me lose all respect for the previously proud Tiere. Very sad, I hope Beresford sorts you out
@Greenblooded – well said.. ure so right re the school kids…
But go on then.. name a few schools on ure “naughty list” lol
@star: Not sure what you thought of the two No 10’s but I thought McHardy was superior on the day. Yes he had more front-foot ball so it is easier but his overall workrate and attitude to the game can never be faulted. He really is a fantastic player and so versatile. I hope this versatility does not cost him when it comes to KZN selection. I don’t think Westville are doing him any favours in this regard playing him at 10.
@GreenBlooded: Likewise – schoolboys jeering opposition mistakes is not cool at all. It takes one impassioned speech at assembly to nip this one in the bud. Do the right things schools!!
@Westers: @HORSEFLY NO.1: Sounds like rugby wasn’t the main attraction on offer today? Not sure who is right and who is wrong, but it is something I see creeping in a t a lot of schools and also in junior club rugby: Parents and Supporters need to learn how to behave like civilised humans!! The problem is that the kids see it and think it’s OK – and before you know it you have pandemonium on your hands. Schools need to take this in hand and educate their supporters – we are trying to breed gentlemen at the schools and the behaviour of some parents are having the opposite effect. I have my own list of “Schools with the worst behaved supporters” but I will not publish it here of course.
@star
do u really ? as in back hilton v GW ? eish .. i dont reckon hey…but am soo intrugued to see this game now ( well see the score anyhow sitting in the UK lol )
when is it ? im may be out for my WBHS class of 93 reunion on the 29th which is i believe just before the wbhs v michaelhouse game .. ampt !! :-)
@ Horsy- I liked him. Also your U16A No 8 had a big imposing game. I was just down from you. We must have passed like stangers in the night
@ Rhino- House are solid up front but I think they are struggling at fly half. Last year they had Anderson as part of a great “spine”. This year Hilton have got the jump on them in that regard.
@ Grassy- As Westville are not playing GW I have to back the ” Whites” to do the business.
@Gungets: I usually read your comments with interest, but clearly you either weren’t at the game or were at Westville by mistake. At no point did College dominate. They were completely dominated in the 1st half and most of the coaches (College) were commenting on how they shouldn’t get rattled. NW had the most possession and territory in the 1st half, but gave away 2 soft tries (remember they were in the lead for quite a while).
College made the most of the opportunities in the 2nd half, but NW was battling after the tighthead props ankle got stomped on (repeatedly) and the replacement came on. Until then, NW had the better of the scrums and you’re right – it was one way traffic (backwards for College).
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Look in your own backyard before criticising others. I also noticed DHS coaches coaching from the side lines in a few games and going onto the field at times. Surely they know better. There were also photographers inside the roped area, one of whom played the ball and this stopped a Westville player from taking a quick throw.
It was also sad to hear DHS boys cheering Westville mistakes, but in the open age group they didn’t have much else to cheer about. 3 points in total on the day is not much of a return.
Your comment on few Westville players impressing is also a little distasteful. I actually thought most of the boys played pretty well.
I also made the score 43 – 3, not 42 – 3 as the scoreboard showed. Difficult to know as the main scoreboard was not always on the ball during the day.
You guys have lots of work to do.
@Horsefly
Ah ok ta for info. Well yeah it not nice to hear and doesnt do us WOB’s / people any favours but i guess there always gonna be a few nobchuncks around unfortunately.
Yep Well done to DHS for that. Defo a lesson to be learnt both ways…
@Rhino:
Sorry just the one incident when it comes to parents but I did overhear one or two convos by these parents and it isn’t great.
About U16A, I too hope they learn nothing comes easy, and that DHS also learns that with hard work it can definitely be possible!!
@star:
But eish that wasn’t cool hey. I was sitting by the tuckshop. You? What did you think of the DHS U16A hooker?
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Sorry two tries to nil
@Star @ horsefly
Well done Westille – Decent win it seems. We’ll take that.
Not sure what happened by you saying the Westville parents but seems star has just answered what did happen… but you said parents’ so what else? hope this not the case but who knows as i not there and just happy with the nice win.
u16a defo surprise and thats disgusting if thats the truth about them not really training and yep i hope they now realise nothing comes easy.
Jeez didnt expect the Hilton score v MHS ?!!! seems House out of sorts………. are they bad this season ?
@HORSEFLY NO.1: This is the first full game I have watched the Westville U15 play this year and I can honestly say I thought they deserved it. I was standing right behind the poles when Westville should have been awarded a try. The player placed the ball over the line after being tackled and the ref gave DHS a penalty. There was no double movement. As Star said, should have been three tries – but two tries to one tells a story.
@ Horsy- I think you are refering to the comments about the coach going on to the field which is not allowed. I also heard them. Where were you sitting? While I agree parents need to constrain themselves the coach was actually in the wrong and then proceeded to engage with the parent rather than just ignore him.
@star:
I thought the Westville no.10 played quite well to be honest. He was one of FEW Westville guys to impress…thought Westville was its own enemy and that the DHS team was just never amped or good enough on defence. Webster was always on the back foot today and never got a chance to show his skills so to be honest McHardy had the better game.
@star:
Well I have to say that I thought the DHS team was its own worst enemy in that game hey. But I do commend the defence of the Westville U15A side. Some HUGE defence there !!
Well that Schoeman kid is very good and has a bit of size on him. Caused problems for DHS for sure.
Yeah it is an area of concern. But to be honest even last year there wasn’t really a difference between the two sides last year… The DHS team was just really bad at defence then and this year the defence was good. To be honest I think the DHS team could have scored a couple more tries. I hope they keep up with this spirit they are playing with !! The hooker from. DHS had an excellent game IMO.
Lastly, quite disappointed by the attitude of some of the Westville parents…
@ Horsy- How did you rate the Webster v McHardy clash?
@Gungets Tuft: hack through ….
@ Horsy- 2 tries( should have been 3) to nil says it all. Yes I can honestly say they were better.
The U14 Westville no 8 is Schoeman who was at WSPS.A very good runner.
If you are correct about the U16A taking it easy in training then I am very disappointed and lesson hopefully learnt. Maybe the DHS boys heard about this and it then gave them additional motivation.
Both my old schools Westville and Hilton scored 42 points to record convincing victories at 1st team level and so I am going to enjoy a few this evening.
Bigger surprize is that they won without their general Gareth simo Simpson who only played 5minutes @ the end.
Those U14 boys had me holding my breath, Well done to the westville u14&15A though
Some good rugby played by both sides
The rugby, pretty much 1-way traffic all day. The NW firsts defended all day, won a lot of (pretty strange) ball on the ground, but other than a single breakaway try on the wing from broken play, never really looked like scoring. Kick, bite and scratch defense from NW. Lower games, sorry to say, not much there. U16A, where we expected stern opposition after the last 2 years, was simple over-run. Their only points came for a back through after a College mistake and a good chase by Northwood.
@star:
But can you honestly say that the Westville U15A was better? Because I can’t hey. But what’s happened has happened and they just have to pick themselves up now !!
I was told that the Westville U16A hadn’t really trained this week on the basis that they were playing DHS and that’s not good. But yeah, great heart from School!
As for U14A, DHS didn’t really get going here and they are much better than the scoreline suggests. But the offloads are unbelieveable in that team!! Also, impressed with the Westville no.8. Good player that!!
@Anonymous: Massive win. The Northwood side is very good. To be honest I don’t think they were at their best. Couple of my mates are Northwood hockey followers and were visibly disappointed in their general play. Perhaps their real shot at topping College got to them, they looked impatient. College waited them out, 3 structured attacks, 3 goals.
@pedantic- the U15 A is not really surprizing. Was always quitely confident. The massive surprize is the U16A . To summarise an over confident bunch of individuals against a TEAM that played with unbelievable heart. Well done school on proving that basic principle. What must be concerning for DHS is that the second stringers got hammered not scoring a point.
U15B 32-0 U16B 54-0 2nds 57-0. In the U14s Westville were actually leading half way into the 2nd half but the ex Dale flyhalf is magic and they do have some big runners. The scoreline flatters DHS as in the last minute Westville were turned over on DHS’s line and a breakway try resulted.
@School:
Spot on!! They played their hearts out and I hope that some of those boys make the KZN team.
As for 1st side, couldn’t agree with you more…very disappointed by the defence. They just never looked like they were up for the game
Impressed with U14A second half performance and those 3 blitz tries definitely helped them.
U15A I think deserved more from that game and also slightly let themselves down.important thing is to pick themselves up now !!
Also, disappointed by the behaviour of the Westville parents…especially one particular parent who was talking to the DHS U15A coach. Sies man!!
@Pedantic: The Hilton u15 win over MH is a big surprise. What happened there?
What happened in the midlands?
@school Couldn’t agree more they showed what desire to win can do for a team. Definately the highlight of the day by far.
I feel that DHS 1st xv poor defensive effort let them down. U16A’s win the biggest surprise for me. Proud of those boys.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Northwood had won 13 from 13, maybe unlucky no. But they had not played the best yet. Wynberg, Grey PE and College are always up there. Glenwood will give them a good go too. As for the rugby, seems the Glenwood vs Hilton game could be a humdinger!
Yeah that’s true especially since Northwood 1st hockey are rated 1st in SA and had won like 15 out of 15 so far this year!!
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Yes, must admit I had to triple check those U15, U16 results – very unexpected.
Gungets thats a big win for your 1st hockey side they must be chuffed.
@Pedantic
Think that both U15A and U16A results at DHS were very surprising hey. DHS U15A never got going though and were disrupted by a few decisions by mr ref who I honestly don’t want to speak about!
KZN Results
St Charles vs Kearsney
U14A Kearsney won 12-44
U15A Kearsney won 5-36
U16A Kearsney won 3-20
1sts Kearsney won 0-55
Westville vs DHS
U14A DHS won 7-25
U15A Westville won 12-6
U16A DHS won 3-11
1sts Westville won 42-3
Hilton vs Michaelhouse
U14A Hilton won 19-12
U15A Hilton won 20-19
U16A Hilton won 7-3
1sts Hilton won 42-12
M. College vs Northwood
U14A College won 27-0
U15A College won 28-0
U16A College won 38-5
1sts College won 26-13
HTS Middelburg en Woeries 30 – 30. HTS na finaal. 5 driee teen 4
WOERIES 25 – 18 voor teen HTS Middelburg. Halftyd
College U14a win 27-0
U15A win 28-0
U16A win 38-5
College 1st Hockey win 3-2
NELLIES wen KEMPIES 42 – 23
Garsies 55- 20 against Ermelo NuPower Fulltimescore
EG Jansen 32 Monument 18 final score
u15A: 9-0 to Selborne, spirited effort from Selborne, likewise Grey who were kept out by a good Selborne defence. Good game
u14A: 33-6 to Grey, last 15 to 20 minutes, 4 tries
kearsney 2ND XV up against Voortrekker 1ST XV so it should be an entertaining game. The only problem is the 1 p.m. kick off in PMB and it could be a scorcher.
@School:
That is just really sad! I hope this years grade 11 have even more boys playing next year and that this years grade 10 come by the numbers !
Only 6 matrics in 1st and 2 in 2nds and of all
Ex U16A players in this matric year only 6 still play rugby. I wonder where 9 players have gone!!
@School:
Isn’t it just 5 sides? What bemuses me is the participation of matrics. About 4 of those 5 sides are fullly grade 11. Opens should make 4 sides as well so we can get an 8th side
@scrum doctor: May be true, just hoping it comes right sooner than later. Open have raised numbers to make 6 sides as of next week though so that’s good.
@BWS: sorry about that misunderstanding.
My voorspellings noem net die wenners.
Westville, Maritzburg College. Grey Bloem, Grey PE, MArlow, Paul Roos, Menlopark, Affies, Waterkloof, PretoriaBoysHigh, HTS Middelburg, Nelspruit, Garsfontein en die groot Paarl Gym.
@wakker akker: Niks om oor te bieg nie Akker tensy jy iets aan jou vrou wil vertel. Maar ek stel voor maak haar eers goed dronk en vertel haar dan. More sal sy nie kan onthou wat jy gese het nie en as sy ‘n bietjie onthou sal sy te bang wees om jou daaroor te beskuldig want dalk onthou sy verkeerd. Geniet die game en gedra jou
@Tjoppa: tjoppa ek reis na George vanuit die westelike provinsie na die suiderlike prov.Bloem sal my nooit sien ek te lief vir die see.Ons sal seker more hoor wie se bekke toe gaan wees en wie gaan baie kan praat.se weer altwee spanne goed en kan wen.My keuse bly Kwaggas.Ons sal more sien of almal reg was oor die feit dat Paarl voor gaan oorheers.Na my mening wag daar n groot verrassing vir die partye wat so voel.Kom ons wag en sien.Ek sal bieg as ek verkeerd is maar twyfel of dit nodig sal wees.Cheers vir eers.
@Westers: I will borrow you. I personally think that this is going a hard as nails battle and no expansive rugby will be seen. Gim will slow the game down and defend like demons. Therefore Gym by 5
@School: Sorry didnt really get the :D at the end !! i try not to read with my head to the side , my Doc said it was not good for my neck
@School: I do believe that some of the open teams are playing on the stagger though . This is really sad when one thinks of where DHS came from and now they have to play on the stagger ! At least we will not run the risk of drowing this week end !
@Tierklou: Ander sê weer hierdie jaar is die Clash of the N/subs op die 8ste Junie. Gaan dit egter mis, daar is ‘n klein game by Brug Str. daardie dag…..
Dink Tiere behoort steeds te veel skietgoed te hê mre, maar die o/16 game beloof om lekker taai te wees.
@BSW:
Think you missed the smiley at the end :D
My younger brother showed me the tweet this morning,I know its light hearted.
Tygerberg vs Bellville = Clash Of The Northern Suburbs.
@Rhino: Glad to see that we are in for great weather tomorrow
@Amakelite @ BWS
“school” is defo just trying to stir with us… ctrl alt del :-)
@School: Your comment about WHBS boys saying that DHS will be a practice tomorrow is both childish and incorrect . I know many boys that play for WBHS and I can assure you “school ” that your comment does not represent the players !! DHS are a great school with a strong history in KZN and will be treated as such.
@Klofie Pa: Freaudion Slip there?…
@wakker akker Hoop nie jy probeer weg kom nie. Onthou al blog jy van Bloemfontein gaan ons steeds weet wie jy is. Sit maar op die pawiljoen en knyp die duime styf vas.
@rugbyfan: Happens when your stuck in the States
@Tjoppa: mooi gestel. ons wag maar inspanning.Ek sal namiddag die 400km aandurf.dit gaan n riller wees.
@School: I doubt that. Our boys respect DHS and are taking all the games seriously.
Westville boys saying therz a rugby practice against DHS this weekend :D
Westville boys saying therz a rugby practice against DHS this weekend
Grey bedoel ek!!
@wakker akker: Akketjie bly om te sien jys nie meer so kwaad nie. lelik op die mense geskree gister jong!! stouterd!!
Dit vat n spesiale span om Gey te wen en ek dink Kwaggas is so n span. Daarom dink ek Gim gaan dit nie maak more nie. Outiniqua met 8.
HTS gaan Centurion roer en selfde met Nelspruit. Mamparalanga sal volgende week op die map wees met altwee hul spanne in final.
Akketjie hoop nie jou dag word omgekrap nie!!
@RUGBYFAN10: Who on earth are those two schools never heard of them before.
@wakker akker: Baie goeie spanne het al verloor so kom ons kyk wat gebeur Saterdag. Ek het al voorheen gepreek oor ondersteuners se opgewondenheid wat afbreek maak aan hul onderskeie spanne se pogings.
Maar wat ek wel wil se is ek dink no1 gaan Saterdag bepaal word TENSY Affies vinnig wakker word.
@Tjoppa: Bly om te sien jy is nog met ons.wil graag hoor wat jy verder te se het oor jou vorige stelling.Goeie span maar…… ? maar wat ?
@wakker akker: Sorry man op my ouderdom raak mens maar gou aan die slaap as die oorfoontjie se batterye pap raak.
@RUGBYFAN10: Agree with Beet. HTS with 10. Think the Nellies Kempies game a closer call. Nellies with 5.
@RUGBYFAN10: I tend to say HTS but like we have heard on the blog before re: these ou Tvl knockout games and any knockout game for that matter, there’s a pyschological element that comes into play. Also Centurion being in Pretoria and with HTS having to do the long distance travelling, that aspect does favour Centurion. So I say HTS by 10 points.
Prediction for Hts and Centurion?
@Amalekite: are any of our schools ever ready for them
@Queenian: I am sure that all the teams that play them early on in the season would like the same thing for themselves. Unfortunately, beggars cannot be choosers. We got the Gimmies treatment early on this season – lol.
@QC86: That is a problem they should play them at least after they have played Dale and Queens to get some game time.
@Queenian: nobody,that is why i said Selborne are not ready for GREY,we play them to early in the season,most of our b and c teams have not had a game yet,all rugga was washed out last Saturday
@QC86: Who did Selborne play this last weekend
@QC86: Maybe 20 pints?
@rugbyfan: KAK
@wakker akker: Dis ‘n bitter onsamehangende antwoord, skuif die gompot stadig weg, haal diep asem, en dan probeer jy weer.
@Ploegskaar: @Ploegskaar: WIE HET JOU PANNIC BUTTON NOU GEDRUK.JY HET DUIDELIK NIE MEER N VELLETJIE NIE .
@rugbyfan: You from the wrong province mate
@beet: Thanks Beet. Apart from the odd “beer garden” mistake you’re a star.
Special treatment hey
@jakes: Sorry Jakes, The adjustments were made early this morning
@Woltrui: Okay I have the schedule for the whole day at NuPower in a new post now
GCB will put 50 past Selborne this weekend.
@wakker akker: Jip, jy skree beslis, vir die Kwaggas en op die res van ons. Sit asseblief nou die Caps Lock af en rol jou velletjie terug, jy vat net hier en daar grond soos ‘n Jack Russel met sy lipstiek uit. Die Kwaggas is ‘n puik span, soos Boland verlede jaar teen hierdie groep in George ervaar het, en selfs beter hierdie jaar. Dit en tuisveld voordeel gee die Kwaggas beslis die binnebaan, en so goed soos Gim is, sal dit ‘n grootse verrassing wees indien hulle deurtrek. Die druk is dus op die Kwaggas (en duidelik op jou).
@wakker akker: Maak so, dankie Akkertjie!!!
Maar se net weer… ons hoor nie!!
@Klofie Pa: RUSTIG PAPPIE.GAAN LE MAAR NOG N BIETJIE ONS SAL JOU KOM WAKKER ;AKKER’MAAK
@Grasshopper: DIS REG SO.MY OPINIE IS DAT DIT TWEE STERK SPANNE IS MET HOPE TALENT. EK SKREE VIR KWAGGAS MAAR BESEF DAT TUSSEN TWEE SULKE SPANNE DIT GAAN OOR WIE DIE HONGERSTE OP DIE DAG IS , DIE ‘BOUNCE OF THE BALL ‘ BESLUITE OP DIE VELD EN WIE DIE MINSTE FOUTE BEGAAN ‘ DIT KAN BEPAAL WIE WEN OF VERLOOR OP DIE DAG .GLO BEIDE SPANNE HET N 50% KANS.
@wakker akker: se net gou weer Akkertjie!! Nie mooi gehoor nie!!
@jakes: hierdie is op twitter jakkie!!
: Nupower S16 semif: HTS Middelburg vs Centurion ,Nelspruit vs Kemptonpark at TUKS 27/04/13 @schoolrugby
@jakkie: NEE WAT OU TJOPPA HET BESEF HY WEET NIE WERKLIK WAT AANGAAN NIE.AL WAT HY KON SE IS DAT HULLE GOEIE RUGBY SPEEL,TOE SLUK HY N KALMEER PIL MET DIE NAAM BROOCKLAX.SAL SEKER LATER SY SIN KLAARMAAK
@Woltrui: Paar weke terug gese, moenie van Kempton Park vergeet nie. Hier kom hulle al weer. Hulle was maar stil in die Beeld Trofee verlede jaar ook, en kyk wat het toe gebeur.
My seun moet volgende jaar graad 8 toe, en hy wil graag EG toe, daarom volg ek hulle rugby so bietjie hierdie jaar.
Stem saam Jakes, enige van die spanne wat jy noem verdien om die toernooi te wen.
@ Woltrui- on top it reads Kempies play Centurion so I assume Nelspruit and HTS Middelburg in other game.
@jakes: Jakes ek sien volgens bostaande wedstryd lys speel HTS teen Centurion en Nellies teen Kempies. Is dit korrek?
@beet: Beet I know the unions appoint referee’s for the series. For example the Pumas would appoint a ref from Middelburg to referee the matches in Nelspruit and vica versa (those towns as well as Ermelo is arch enemies on the rugby field). These refs are closely scrutinised by the Unions. The same with the refs in the rest of the Northvaal.
Beet is there any info on the lower age group semi final contestants for the series?
@ BEET- Yes I agree, there is some very interesting matches coming up at TUKS this weekend . Should be worthwhile going there to have a look. Monnas vs EG jansen, should be a thriller as well as Nelspruit against HTS Middelburg, Kempton park against Centurion. Garsfontein will be to strong for Rustenburg I suppose from previous results.
Green Blooded & Hopper
Jonas went off injured a few times – left leg issue and I was always surprised to see him start
in the next game
He played a full game against Selbourne – he has great potential & he will be back next year
in fact a good portion of this team will be back next year – so something to look forward to
@jakes: Kempies were the only team to win a 1st place decider away from home. EG, Garsies and Monnas all lost in away games. They are all quality teams. Anyway it still makes for an interesting competition as much to play for in 5th place playoffs as well now.
@ woltrui- ja Nee die nu power kompetisie hierdie jaar baie deurmekaar met die nuwe reel- verloor een game- al is dit met ‘n punt en jy is uit. So een af dag en dis neusie verby. Moet se enige span tussen die eerste 7 het kans gestaan om kompetisie te wen op ‘n goeie dag. Garsfontein, EG Jansen, HTS Middelburg, Monnas. Centurion, Nelspruit, Kempton park. Lyk my die kompetisie tussen 5-8 tussen EG jansen , Monnas, Garsfontein,Rustenburg gaan harder wees as 1-4. Kempton Park alweer buite perd maar hulle en Rustenburg was in ‘n baie mindere sterk groep., baie makliker teenstand gehad tot nou toe.. weereens die nuwe formaat baie teleurstellend. Hoop die spanne wat nie vir eerste 4 plekke uitspeel nie, sal nie ge-demotiveerd wees nie.
Wat de drommel het met Monnas gebeur? Dink nie Centurion ondersteuners sal kwaad wees as ek se hul uitslae was “gemiddeld” in 2013 nie. Praat van vorm vind op die regte tyd!
Voorspel ‘n Mpumalanga span gaan die 2013 Nu Power kampioen wees.
Wat ‘n geveg om die 5de posisie. Jansies, Monnas, Garsies. Vermoed EG gaan die posisie in neem. 8)
@star: It is an interesting question to ask but from experience of asking it to boys from various schools, I think there are 2 things to consider and build in. Kids are very flavour of the seasonish, so important to ask them why they rate a player and if possible to give them time to think about it.
@School: The KZN selectors are definitely blessed for choice at 10 this year.
Tedder often he has to play to fit the Kearsney game plan but against Boland Landbou he showed how deadly he can be when playing flatter and on the advantage line. Definitely ticks most boxes on attack and defence.
Webster has good energy and nice balance. He can play make and link. Also like his tactical kicks. The mark of a good player is amount of time and space he is able to create around himself and he certainly does this.
@ Grassy- The feeling I get from the Westville boys is that they rate Jonas ahead of Webster and Tedder. Interesting to get the opinion of the boys(opposition) on the ground.
@Grasshopper: Are you not perhaps mixing up Human and Eksteen of the Kwaggas. Generally the Kwaggas tend to switch their 10 and 15 on defence and they sometimes rotate their wings – the wings thing could be to intro an element of surprise tho.
@beet: Same could be said for Human from the Kwaggas, Jonas reminds me of a younger version of him. Human drifts to the wing when the Kwaggas are defending……not ideal but then you have devastating speed on attack. Jonas is not quite the same class as Human but could be by next year if he stays fit…
Affies beat KES 46-6. Was close until the 42nd minute then Affies ran in 4 or 5 tries.
@Grasshopper: On ground attack he is an absolute pleasure to watch. He introduces speed and is always able to challenge the defence with his turn of pace and step. Where I believe he still needs to put in the hard work is his defensive kicking out of hand and his tackling.
@GreenBlooded: I really like the College no.10 Alexander. So glad the coaches are backing him. His good passing game improves the options available on attack.
@Grasshopper: He also seems quite injury-prone. Or carrying and old injury. Hardly seems to get beyond half time unfortunately.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Koekemoer played at 12 yesterday.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: he played 1st vs MHS and I watched him against Paarl Gim at KERF, had a very good game against one of the top 3 schools in SA. He showed his skills behind a losing pack. Great talent and prospect, just lacks a little size
@Grasshopper:
But is Jonas not playing 2nds?? But Koekemoer is better than Jonas IMO. I’ve seen both play… I wasn’t at the match yesterday so I can’t comment on the Koekemoer vs Webster thing from yesterday
@School: I wouldn’t write Jonas from Glenwood off, excellent player….
Any comments or thoughts on K.Webster vs J.koekermoer(MC vs DHS)? arguably the top 3 NO.10’s along with T.Tedder
@Tjoppa: maar wat?
@wakker akker: Stadig oor die klippe my maat. Julle speel goeie rugby maar………………?
@wakker akker: based on the quality of the play and the players I think Gim have a better all round team. Kwaggas have an amazing back line, best in the country but their pack has weaknesses, especially in the front row. Gim have an awesome tight five, if they can keep possession they will win. EG Jansen have a good team too, their lock Estiaan, blonde flyhalf and wing stood out for me but Gim would beat them too….
@Grasshopper: PRESIES. HOE KAN JY TWEE SPANNE DOPHOU WAT TEEN VERSKILLENDE OPPOSISIE SPEEL EN DAN SE DIE EEN IS BETER AS DIE ANDER EEN.EN HOU MAAR OUTENIQUA SE 8 DOP.MEER SPOED FISIES BAIE STERKER EN KOM VERDER OOR DIE VOORDEEL LYN.
@wakker akker: kwaggas are not playing Glenwood this year for some reason but we have beaten them before, in fact the games have all been close except for last year. Gim would beat EG Jansen not sure about Grey, depends if home or away, just my opinions….
@Grasshopper: INDIEN OUTENIQUA TEEN KEARSNEY EN GLENWOOD SOU GESPEEL HET BY KEARSNEY SOU JOU WOORDE SEKER ANDERS GEWEES HET .DIE TELLINGS SOU MOONTLIK GROTER GEWEES HET .VERAL TEEN GLENWOOD.
WONDER HOE SOU PAARL GYM VERTOON HET TEEN GREY BLOEM EN E.G.JANSEN.
@beet: Thanks Beet. Affies vs KES ?
@Amalekite: No but apparently Voortrekker beat St Charles
Does anyone know the result of the St Charles vs Voortrekker game ?
Tygerberg vs Bellville – dit is ‘n moet wen vir die Tiere…en hulle moet goed wen.
Klop hulle Bellville gemaklik is seisoen weer op dreef. Val hulle egter vas is daar ernstige vrae te vrae!
Die afgelope 2 jaar onder nuwe afrigtingspan het nog net nie aan die gang gekom nie. Ek stem met GimOB – dit is nie die Tier-span wat ek aan gewoond is die afgelope jare nie.
@Roger: Lucky you had an opening on 11 May. Or was it to allow your sides time to recover after the clash against Westville?
@Queenian: i wish we were boet,Selborne is not ready for the Grey Bloem clash this weekend
KES-JEPPE confirmed for 11 May – on TV too
Beet: As far as i know Selborne play Queens this weekend in EL
@GreenBlooded: Not. See my posting under Top 30…….
@Westers: Seems like it is only 3 teams – U15F, U16E and U16C. Other teams are against Grace College (9th and U14F) and Greytown (U15B). 2nd, 4th, U15C and U14B don’t have games. Not sure where Westville are finding other games?
@GreenBlooded: Great news. Pity Glenwood not in the mix as well. Maybe a triangular could work at the lower levels.
@Westers: apparently it has but they are awaiting TV confirmation before announcing dates
Outeniqua vs Paarl Gim. Outeniqua by 5.
@sacssupporter: Massive game for Grey High this weekend. Revenge for last year on the cards against a very good Wynberg side. Too close to call at this point.
Regarding THE MATCH : if all factors are considered, I think it is an even match and can go either way – external factors on the day such as injuries, BMT, discipline and homeground may impact it severely. I heard that quite a few of the Kwagga team is heading North next year…. Suppose the Gimmies will remain in the WP (although Rikus Botma won a bursary from Shark Academy and rumour has it that he might be heading north as well). Lots of young talent coming through the ranks – all the senior players will have to step up their game.
What a weekend coming up – I’ll record the Gimmies/Kwagga’s game, be watching our boys battle it out with Paul Roos at SACS at 12:15pm then race off to Wynberg to support my old school Grey High against a good Wynberg side at 3:30pm – then sit at home with a cold one in hand and watch the Gimmies/Kwagga’s game – Super rugby will have to wait until Sunday!
Can it ever get any better than that?
Big one this Saturday. Its Winters Day vs our rivals from Stellenbosch. SACS vs Paul Roos. Should be a cracker.
My money is on Gimmies. We played both of these sides and the Paarl boys were more impressive all round. Glenwood and Kearsney threw everything against Gimmies and were put to the sword as well. Very strong side with no weaknesses.
If Outeniqua win, it will be thanks to Dewald Human’s x-factor. He was the difference between the sides when they beat Grey College. He can turn nothing into something.
Having watched both Gim and Kwaggas twice this season each, I honestly think Gim will win. Huge tussle between Zandberg and Schickerling! Gim front row is better, Gim No 8 shades the kwaggas 8. So if the Gim pack hold onto possession and dry up the kwaggas back line ball, Gim will win. Also the Gim centers are big and break the line too. For me Gim just have that 5% extra but Kwaggas have home ground advantage and won’t have to travel. Problem for kwaggas is if they get an injury to one of their stars not much left….
Getting word via the referees that College and Westville are matching up their lower teams at College on Saturday.
@Engelsman: I just think the Gim loose forwards will give them the edge. Both sets of backs are good. If Gim move the Outeniqua pack around they will get the edge. Having said that, home ground may be a deciding factor. All I know is I will be recording this game to watch several times over if it turns out to be as good as expected.
@Westers: mmmm not sure on this, if Outeniqua forwards can get quality ball to their backs i think they will win this one, Huge tussle expected!!!!
The two games Affies play against KES and Jeppe will give us a pointer as to who might have won last weekend had it not been for the rain. Does anyone know if the KES vs Jeppe game has been rescheduled?
The Outeniqua vs Paarl Gim game is going to be a cracker. If I had money I would put it on Paarl Gim, but fortunately I don’t. It will be close though.