@Vleis: Don’t forget the quotas at U16 level. 13 of the squad to be players of colour. St John’s not going to do to well on that one. Having watched st John’s U16 team play, I don’t think they’re a top 10 team. I can’t see them beating Helpmekaar, Monument or Affies and that’s just in the old Transvaal.
But their flyhalf is very good.
@KES Oldboy: Yep indeed, he’s also the nephew of my mate from Zim. In fact, my mate from Zim’s son (at Hilton) played against his cousin at the SJC rugby fest this year. Re his all-round ability, his passing and kicking are decent…but there is a question mark re his defence. That could be due to his coach asking him to avoid same, as he’s invaluable to the SJC team…but I don’t know.
I’m not suggesting that SJC u16A are at the very top, but they probably deserve more players in the Lions team than Jeppe (let alone having six less) after having walloped the latter and going unbeaten thus far. Also, although they haven’t beaten HJS or GCB, they’ve beaten a few top 30 ranked teams quite easily such as: Jeppe by 21, Kingswood by 34, PBHS by 23, Hilton by 7. They also hammered House (who beat Centurion, Eldos, Kearsney, etc) by 31.
I have nothing against Jeppe, but they certainly seem to have the inside line re provincial SBR selections amongst the Soutie schools.
@KES Oldboy: St. John’s vs. KES will be interesting at both 1XV and U16 levels. St.J has #8 Zille and a couple of interesting centres that could have added value in the provincial setup, but I feel for flyhalf Kieran Houlston who in my view is a great talent but his rise has been hampered by illness this season. Then there is the hiding of last year St. J would want to put behind them. Their U16 team will be without one of their provincial players Taine Maynard tomorrow due to a leg injury. KES firm favorites, but St.J good value this season, and the game is on Burger field which gives St. John’s home ground advantage.
@Vleis: with so few St John’s boys in the teams, I’m sure they took the decision to not promote their players and to rather concentrate on school rugby and SCHOOL WORK! I agree that it is silly that they only have two players in the U16 team. Although their U16 team is excellent we will never know how good they are as they have not really been tested. They beat a good Jeppe team in the season opener but thereafter have not played any strong teams.
The SJC first team flyhalf is nephew of your famous Greensider James Small. He is a very good runner with the ball but I’m not sure of his allround game. We’ll see how he goes tomorrow up against the CW flyhalf.
@Stier: Please indicate which of the selected players you don’t think should be there and which players you would have rather selected in their places. I saw a guy like the old salty ruggas was closely following the entire process and wonder what he thinks now that its done and dusted.
@Hooit: @Rob: @Riempies: Congrats guys your young Lions deserve their selection into the Golden Lions provincial teams.
@MountainMan: Very tough luck for the exceptional loosie Liam van den Berg of Helpies who was forced out due to injury. Would have loved to seem him in the Golden Lions jersey again.
@Vleis: @BrotherBear: Last year I saw a kid getting less than five minutes playing time a the first provincial trail just because two players in his position were selected above him because of politics. The on boys dad appoints the selectors for that union and the other boys coach said that he will not fight for any other positions if they select that one player of his school. Even before anybody walked onto the pitch those kids names where writen down.
After my rant congrats to those that got selected on merit, the good boys can’t help or be blamed for the idiots that also got selected. I am clad the young man made it Riempies. I really like the way he plays. Hopefully he will be fit in time.
Interesting to see the GK team is dominated by Jeppe boys. Jeppe 12, Monnas 9, Helpies 9. How good is the Jeppe under 16 team?
@Rugbymal: Personally I think very little value should be given to any provincial selections at school level. Unfortunately in this country it counts for way to much any that explains why we are ranked the no. 1 rugby nation in the world or not?
Many good players drop out of rugby because idiots select for their schools, friends or politicians. We should abandon all these national school boy tournaments and play regional tournament’s. That will give a lot more talented kids exposure. More than half the kids at these weeks are not the best in their age group in our country and are taking the place’s of more talented and better kids.
We will not change it though because tradition and quotas are more important than merit and rugby in this country. Like my Russian coach use to say,”South Africans will do anything for a jacket”. Even when we suck at something as long as you got your colours?
A very big well done to all the boys. The stress is now over for a place in the Lions team. Now it is wait and pray for an injury free month leading up to the youth weeks. Hard work still ahead. Lions A team surely up their with WP. Selectors a few interesting selections that has justified themselves over the past 3 weeks. Big strong physical and mobile pack with a very fast and agile backline. Congrats Riempies, Quagga and Randy. Will now see more of each other than usual.
@Vleis: people out there have no idea how deep this injustice goes. Although Monnas is centrally involved, there are quite a few other schools that play the game. The game consists of: I promote your player if you promote mine. KES & Jeppe central here too as well as Florida, etc.
The issue is also discrimination against individuals. Do you want to tell me there are 2 Florida fullbacks better than the Monnas fullback, who is by the way also in the green squad? Monnas 2nd-team lock playing AW?
Sounds like sour grapes by me, but I really know that the rot goes very deep.
Well done to the deserving boys from all schools – you know who you are.
SJC u16A are ranked 3, Jeppe 14, Monnas 22 and KES 42, so when you say ‘Combined Petrol Pump’ teams are you referring to Monnas and KES at u16 level? Please clarify.
Out of interest, why use a cute hobby like golf as a metaphor for rugby? Next, you’ll be comparing rugby to other hobbies like chess or debating…or even tennis! You Linden okes are crazy.
@Vleis: He still in AW side although he could not play on Tuesday. Thankfull for the opportunity. Treatment on shoulder going well should be 100% at CW.
Firstly, as Riempies says: congratulations to all the boys that made it. For the most part, the CW team seems to be well selected.
That said, even though the Helpies CW numbers have increased by 50%, they still seem very low at just 3 boys in the CW team and 2 in the AW team. Also, I have not seen all the selected flyhalves play, but I’ve seen most of them…and from what I’ve seen, Houlston from SJC is easily the best. Something strange there??
Finally, SJC u16A have played 14 and won 14 this year, including hamering Jeppe by 28 to 7 and yet the latter have eight guys in the GK team and SJC only two? Something strange there too??
@Riempies: Well done Rieme…..baie bly vir sy part besering het hom nie gekelder…..gaan geniet dit en onthou nou volgende jaar…..jy weet waar hy moet wees
@Vleis: Don’t forget the quotas at U16 level. 13 of the squad to be players of colour. St John’s not going to do to well on that one. Having watched st John’s U16 team play, I don’t think they’re a top 10 team. I can’t see them beating Helpmekaar, Monument or Affies and that’s just in the old Transvaal.
But their flyhalf is very good.
@KES Oldboy: Yep indeed, he’s also the nephew of my mate from Zim. In fact, my mate from Zim’s son (at Hilton) played against his cousin at the SJC rugby fest this year. Re his all-round ability, his passing and kicking are decent…but there is a question mark re his defence. That could be due to his coach asking him to avoid same, as he’s invaluable to the SJC team…but I don’t know.
I’m not suggesting that SJC u16A are at the very top, but they probably deserve more players in the Lions team than Jeppe (let alone having six less) after having walloped the latter and going unbeaten thus far. Also, although they haven’t beaten HJS or GCB, they’ve beaten a few top 30 ranked teams quite easily such as: Jeppe by 21, Kingswood by 34, PBHS by 23, Hilton by 7. They also hammered House (who beat Centurion, Eldos, Kearsney, etc) by 31.
I have nothing against Jeppe, but they certainly seem to have the inside line re provincial SBR selections amongst the Soutie schools.
@Quagga: absolutely- KES won’t take them lightly. If they do they will be in trouble!
@KES Oldboy: St. John’s vs. KES will be interesting at both 1XV and U16 levels. St.J has #8 Zille and a couple of interesting centres that could have added value in the provincial setup, but I feel for flyhalf Kieran Houlston who in my view is a great talent but his rise has been hampered by illness this season. Then there is the hiding of last year St. J would want to put behind them. Their U16 team will be without one of their provincial players Taine Maynard tomorrow due to a leg injury. KES firm favorites, but St.J good value this season, and the game is on Burger field which gives St. John’s home ground advantage.
@Vleis: with so few St John’s boys in the teams, I’m sure they took the decision to not promote their players and to rather concentrate on school rugby and SCHOOL WORK! I agree that it is silly that they only have two players in the U16 team. Although their U16 team is excellent we will never know how good they are as they have not really been tested. They beat a good Jeppe team in the season opener but thereafter have not played any strong teams.
The SJC first team flyhalf is nephew of your famous Greensider James Small. He is a very good runner with the ball but I’m not sure of his allround game. We’ll see how he goes tomorrow up against the CW flyhalf.
@Stier: Please indicate which of the selected players you don’t think should be there and which players you would have rather selected in their places. I saw a guy like the old salty ruggas was closely following the entire process and wonder what he thinks now that its done and dusted.
@Hooit: @Rob: @Riempies: Congrats guys your young Lions deserve their selection into the Golden Lions provincial teams.
@MountainMan: Very tough luck for the exceptional loosie Liam van den Berg of Helpies who was forced out due to injury. Would have loved to seem him in the Golden Lions jersey again.
@Stier: Thank you Stier. He is not scared to work for what he believe in.
Coming from an outsider it means a lot.
Thank you.
@Stier: that is how they roll. Coaches also have huge say.
@Vleis: @BrotherBear: Last year I saw a kid getting less than five minutes playing time a the first provincial trail just because two players in his position were selected above him because of politics. The on boys dad appoints the selectors for that union and the other boys coach said that he will not fight for any other positions if they select that one player of his school. Even before anybody walked onto the pitch those kids names where writen down.
After my rant congrats to those that got selected on merit, the good boys can’t help or be blamed for the idiots that also got selected. I am clad the young man made it Riempies. I really like the way he plays. Hopefully he will be fit in time.
Interesting to see the GK team is dominated by Jeppe boys. Jeppe 12, Monnas 9, Helpies 9. How good is the Jeppe under 16 team?
@Rugbymal: Personally I think very little value should be given to any provincial selections at school level. Unfortunately in this country it counts for way to much any that explains why we are ranked the no. 1 rugby nation in the world or not?
Many good players drop out of rugby because idiots select for their schools, friends or politicians. We should abandon all these national school boy tournaments and play regional tournament’s. That will give a lot more talented kids exposure. More than half the kids at these weeks are not the best in their age group in our country and are taking the place’s of more talented and better kids.
We will not change it though because tradition and quotas are more important than merit and rugby in this country. Like my Russian coach use to say,”South Africans will do anything for a jacket”. Even when we suck at something as long as you got your colours?
@BrotherBear: dis n raat maar waar stelling. Sal nooit verander nie. Kinders se drome en aspirations word vernietig deur gunsies en gawes.
Baie geluk aan die manne wat gekies is.
A very big well done to all the boys. The stress is now over for a place in the Lions team. Now it is wait and pray for an injury free month leading up to the youth weeks. Hard work still ahead. Lions A team surely up their with WP. Selectors a few interesting selections that has justified themselves over the past 3 weeks. Big strong physical and mobile pack with a very fast and agile backline. Congrats Riempies, Quagga and Randy. Will now see more of each other than usual.
@Riempies: glad to see young rieme in the squad. Thumbs locked for a speedy recovery.
@Vleis: Thank you.
@Riempies: Congrats and good luck with the recovery and the tournament!
@Vleis: people out there have no idea how deep this injustice goes. Although Monnas is centrally involved, there are quite a few other schools that play the game. The game consists of: I promote your player if you promote mine. KES & Jeppe central here too as well as Florida, etc.
The issue is also discrimination against individuals. Do you want to tell me there are 2 Florida fullbacks better than the Monnas fullback, who is by the way also in the green squad? Monnas 2nd-team lock playing AW?
Sounds like sour grapes by me, but I really know that the rot goes very deep.
Well done to the deserving boys from all schools – you know who you are.
@Speartackle: Dag se boeta.
SJC u16A are ranked 3, Jeppe 14, Monnas 22 and KES 42, so when you say ‘Combined Petrol Pump’ teams are you referring to Monnas and KES at u16 level? Please clarify.
Out of interest, why use a cute hobby like golf as a metaphor for rugby? Next, you’ll be comparing rugby to other hobbies like chess or debating…or even tennis! You Linden okes are crazy.
@Vleis: He still in AW side although he could not play on Tuesday. Thankfull for the opportunity. Treatment on shoulder going well should be 100% at CW.
If I was related to Jordan Spieth it wouldn’t make me a Ryder Cup contender even though I can shoot level par at Houghton on a a good day
It is important to see how a player fares against top quality opposition
Very easy to say a player looks good when playing against Combined Petrol Pump teams
Firstly, as Riempies says: congratulations to all the boys that made it. For the most part, the CW team seems to be well selected.
That said, even though the Helpies CW numbers have increased by 50%, they still seem very low at just 3 boys in the CW team and 2 in the AW team. Also, I have not seen all the selected flyhalves play, but I’ve seen most of them…and from what I’ve seen, Houlston from SJC is easily the best. Something strange there??
Finally, SJC u16A have played 14 and won 14 this year, including hamering Jeppe by 28 to 7 and yet the latter have eight guys in the GK team and SJC only two? Something strange there too??
@Riempies: How did your lightie get on?
Nepotisme ou Knowthegame….nepotisme
@Riempies: Well done Rieme…..baie bly vir sy part besering het hom nie gekelder…..gaan geniet dit en onthou nou volgende jaar…..jy weet waar hy moet wees
Congratulations to each and every player that have made these teams. Today your hard work have been recognized. Enjoy it.