| DATE | MATCH & TRAINING DETAILS |
|---|---|
| 26-03-17 | 2nd training camp starts |
| 31-03-17 | Griffons match |
| 05-04-17 | Griquas match |
| 08-04-17 | Free State match |
| 18-04-17 | 3rd training camp starts |
| 25-04-17 | Varsity Cup Dream Team match |
| 09-05-17 | Western Province match |
| 31-05-17 | u20 Championship starts |
| 31-05-17 | France match |
| 04-06-17 | Georgia match |
| 08-06-17 | Argentina match |
28-player team picked for Championship
| # | POS | NAME | SCHOOL | A/G | Rep | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | PR | Carlu Sadie | Bellville | 1 of 12 WP | u20 | SA Sch |
| 2 | PR | Kwenzo Blose | Glenwood | 1 of 2 Free State | u20 | – |
| 3 | PR | Wikus Groenewald | HJS Paarl BH | 2 of 12 WP | u20 | – |
| 4 | PR | Lee-Marvin Mazibuko | Michaelhouse | 3 of 12 WP | u20 | – |
| 5 | PR | Gerhard Steenekamp | Potch Gim | 1 of 7 Bulls | u20 | – |
| 6 | HK | Daniel Jooste | HJS Paarl BH | 4 of 12 WP | u19 | SA Sch |
| 7 | HK | Johan Grobbelaar | Paarl Gim | 2 of 7 Bulls | u20 | SA Sch |
| 8 | LK | Ruben van Heerden | Affies | 3 of 7 Bulls | u20 | SA Sch |
| 9 | LK | Hendre Stassen | EG Jansen | 4 of 7 Bulls | u20 | SA “A” |
| 10 | LK | Salmaan Moerat | HJS Paarl BH | 5 of 12 WP | u19 | SA Sch |
| 11 | LK | Reynardt Nothnagel | Monument | 1 of 4 Lions | u20 | SA “A” |
| 12 | LF | Nama Xaba | Glenwood | 6 of 12 WP | u20 | – |
| 13 | LF | Len Massyn | Monument | 2 of 4 Lions | u20 | – |
| 14 | LF | Juarno Augustus | Tygerberg | 7 of 12 WP | u20 | – |
| 15 | LF | Ernst van Rhyn | Paarl Gim | 8 of 12 WP | u20 | SA Sch |
| 16 | LF | Zain Davids | Rondebosch | 9 of 12 WP | u20 | SA “A” |
| 17 | SH | Embrose Papier | Garsfontein | 5 of 7 Bulls | u20 | SA Sch |
| 18 | SH | Rewan Kruger | Grey College | 2 of 2 Free State | u19 | SA Sch |
| 19 | SH | Francois de Villiers | HTS Middelburg | 1 of 2 Sharks | u20 | – |
| 20 | FH | Curwin Bosch | Grey HS | 2 of 2 Sharks | u20 | SA Sch |
| 21 | FH | Manie Libbok | Outeniqua | 6 of 7 Bulls | u20 | SA Sch |
| 22 | FH | Damian Willemse | Paul Roos | 10 of 12 WP | u19 | SA Sch |
| 23 | CT | Wandisile Simelane | Jeppe | 3 of 4 Lions | u19 | SA Sch |
| 24 | CT | David Brits | Selborne | 11 of 12 WP | u20 | SA Sch |
| 25 | CT | Stedman Gans | Waterkloof | 7 of 7 Bulls | u20 | SA Sch |
| 26 | WG | Yaw Penxe | Queen’s | 1 of 1 Kings | u20 | – |
| 27 | FB | Gianni Lombard | HJS Paarl BH | 4 of 4 Lions | u19 | SA Sch |
| 28 | FB | Jeanluc Cilliers | HJS Paarl BH | 12 of 12 WP | u20 | – |
| EXCLUDED/UNAVAILABLE | ||||||
| 1 | PR | Abram Venter | De Aar | 1 of 4 Free State | u20 | SA “A” |
| 2 | PR | Khuta Mchunu | Glenwood | 1 of 5 Sharks | u20 | – |
| 3 | PR | Leo Kruger | HJS Paarl BH | 1 of 8 Lions | u20 | – |
| 4 | PR | Tiny Mukhari | Pretoria BH | 1 of 7 Bulls | u20 | SA “A” |
| 5 | PR | Simphiwe Matazima | Queen’s | 2 of 7 Bulls | u20 | – |
| 6 | PR | Andrew Kuhn | Outeniqua | 2 of 4 Free State | u20 | – |
| 7 | HK | PJ Botha | Monument | 2 of 8 Lions | u19 | – |
| 8 | HK | Marnus vd Merwe | Nelspruit | 3 of 4 Free State | u20 | SA “A” |
| 9 | HK | HP van Schoor | Oakdale | 3 of 8 Lions | u20 | – |
| 10 | HK | Abraham Coetzee | Paul Roos | 4 of 4 Free State | u20 | – |
| 11 | LK | Ruben de Villiers | HJS Paarl BH | 1 of 5 WP | u20 | SA Sch |
| 12 | LK | Cobus Wiese | Upington | 2 of 5 WP | u20 | SA Sch |
| 13 | LF | Jaco Bezuidenhout | Garsfontein | 3 of 7 Bulls | u20 | – |
| 14 | LF | Hacjivah Dayimani | Jeppe | 4 of 8 Lions | u20 | SA Sch |
| 15 | LF | Muller Uys | Paarl Gim | 3 of 5 WP | u19 | – |
| 16 | LF | Eduan Lubbe | Affies | 4 of 7 Bulls | u20 | – |
| 17 | SH | Jondre Williams | Boland Landbou | 4 of 5 WP | u20 | SA Sch |
| 18 | SH | Bradley Thain | HJS Paarl BH | 5 of 8 Lions | u20 | – |
| 19 | FH | Courtney Winnaar | Dale | 2 of 5 Sharks | u20 | – |
| 20 | FH | Benhard Jv Rensburg | Frikkie Meyer | 3 of 5 Sharks | u20 | – |
| 21 | CT | Cornel Smit | Bishops | 5 of 5 WP | u20 | – |
| 22 | CT | Irvin Ali | EG Jansen | 5 of 7 Bulls | u20 | – |
| 23 | CT | Manual Rass | HJS Paarl BH | 6 of 8 Lions | u19 | SA Sch |
| 24 | CT | Wayne vd Bank | Menlopark | 7 of 8 Lions | u20 | – |
| 25 | CT | Heino Bezuidenhout | Daniel Pienaar | 6 of 7 Bulls | u20 | SA “A” |
| 26 | WG | Ilunga Mukendi | Glenwood | 4 of 5 Sharks | u20 | – |
| 27 | WG | Michael Tambwe | Parktown | 8 of 8 Lions | u20 | – |
| 28 | WG | Mfundu Ndlovu | Standerton | 5 of 5 Sharks | u20 | – |
| 29 | WG | Ciaran Dayaram | SACS | 7 of 7 Bulls | u20 | – |
| 2015 SA SCHOOL ??? | ||||||
| 1 | HK | Ashwyn Adams | Rondebosch | u20 | SA Sch | |
| 2 | HK | Nico Peyper | Dr EG Jansen | u20 | SA Sch | |
| 3 | PR | Dewald Maritz | Nelspruit | u20 | SA Sch | |
| 4 | FL | Johan Visser | Paarl Gim | u20 | SA Sch | |
| 5 | WG | Nico Leonard | Paul Roos | u20 | SA Sch | |
| 6 | FB | Andell Loubser | Menlopark | u20 | SA Sch | |
| 7 | FB | Josh Vermeulen | Paul Roos | u20 | SA Sch |
@boerboel: Ras is by far the strongest contender at outside center. Unfortunately he had enforced concussion layoff. But in him you knew whoever was opposite him with a ball in hand was lined up nailed and in a flash he’s up and fetched the ball. But every coach obviously the same sees a smaller center than others but goes for the bigger is better train of thought. No matter how many times the maestro has outplayed and outsmsashed them…
What happened to Muller Uys? I also think Ruben De Villiers is very unlucky looking at what he did at school. That brings me to something else, what does the under 20 team have to do with this blog? They are not at school anymore, unless there is a current school boy in the team? I personally don’t watch any South African “pro” rugby anymore, I spend Wednesdays at primary school games and weekends at high school games. The politics of our rugby has totally killed our pro game and the only place you can still see rugby players and coaches compete on merit is at school level. We all know what these boys did at school level but once they go pro their careers are in the hands of politicians and in many cases incompetent coaches appointed by politicians. I like this blog because I don’t have to talk or follow any rubbish from SARU and their useless structures. Yes once a year we have the craven week but for the most part I don’t even have to think or hear anything about them.
@boerboel: I also want to know where he is?
@Speartackle: heh Speartjie – tell old Hopper I see him all over Twitter and I am currently stalking him in Harpenden and RW Johnson is over the hill
Real pity Tambwe is not there – Visa issues I believe. Hacjivah being left out is criminal ????
Lo0ks very light on centres,especially wings and fullback.No size in backline.I wouldplay Willemse at 12.Where is Manny Ras?
cannot see them winning this unfortunately
@odie15: @odie15: Not a bad sqaud just think they are a few centres light and a “fetcher” short. Not sure if this group has one anymore.
@beet: SARU contracts play huge role here. I know biggest issue as player x isn’t performing but being paid for. So coach has list of players he has to use.
Lions u19 players from 2016 a bit unlucky but on the bright side all deserving players omitted from this SA u20 team could yet find the short term disappoint to be a longer term blessing esp for those seeking to become senior pros and likely to make an impact on the world stage in the years to come. The world will remain their oyster. They won’t be country tied for life at aged 20 or younger. I can’t help but feel this becomes more relevant every year.
I see the 2 young Bulls locks Snyman and Jenkins are both heading to Japan after Super Rugby to subsidise their incomes. An injury recipe for disaster as it basically means no off season for either player and others who feel the need to do same to earn competitive pay. Both players committed to SA for international rugby now and as fans we should be grateful that one mechanism ie the SA u20 bookmark for life is still working to ensure SA holds into talent available for Boks call up one day but the solution is hardly an ideal one from a player welfare point of view. Just my opinion but players would be better served having an off season rest period and as part of systems that fit this in with international rugby.
@BoishaaiPa: I doubt it he is still a whiteline speedcop and waves them through. I don’t understand how the “centers” selected other than Brits are actually flyhalves or fullbacks. The best defender/ball winner in last 2 years of CW is being left at home. If you watch all the u19 CC, CW and u18 matches he’s the player with biggest BMT. His tackle and ball win has won plenty of high profile games.
@odie15: There is that as well..with the “wunderkind” hopefully better now with more Super Rugby experience.
@Kattes-Strofes: @BoishaaiPa: my only problem is these “snr”backs selected are basically the same that were impotent in last years JWC.
@CharlesZA: Minder oor die individu..,meer oor die kombinasies..Nou speel hulle Simelane op vleuel…hy lyk verlore op verdediging..Senters moet saam gekies word..dis hoekom hulle goed lyk..as kombinasie ken hulle mekaar..dit vat tyd ..as individue saamgeflans word vir 4 weke sal dit nooit werk nie.
@Speartackle: Snaaks genoeg maak jy wel sin..miskien die eerste keer in 9 jaar wat ek jpu posts lees!
@Kattes-Strofes: Ek is nog outyds en glo in kombinasies……veral wenkombinasies
In 95 is wyle Kitch Christie gekritiseer oor al die Transvalers in die span …..maar dit was n wenspan met wenkombinasies
Het tye so erg verander
Rugby is n spansport…..jy kan n uitstekende individu kry wat nie by n span inskakel en dan kan jy n speler kies wat minder briljant individueel is maar briljant in n gevestigde kombinasie
Maak dit sin?
@BoishaaiPa: My laaste sêding oor die storie, en dan gaan ons voort om die gekose span te ondersteun.
Die Leeus se o/19 span het verlede jaar hul laaste 10 wedstryde op n streep gewen, wat insluit twee seges oor WP. Goeie coaching het beslis n rol gespeel, maar darem ook nie so baie dat die spelers in die span net n klomp donkies was nie.
Maar! Die span is nou gekies en ons sal hulle beslis ondersteun!
Manne dans rondom die feit dat hulle nie van Brits in die span hou nie.
@BoishaaiPa: Ek wil nie graag name hier noem en uitsonder nie, maar die Leeus se Wayne van der bank het op binne senter skitterend gespeel verlede jaar, en al die gekose manne probleme gegee. Hy is dan toe ook opgeneem in die Blitsbokke se B span.
@Kattes-Strofes: Bietjie geworry oor ons middeveld…dink hulle het misgetas daar…
Is dit nie maar waar van die lewe in die algemeen nie ? Die lewe is beslis nie regverdig nie.
@Kattes-Strofes: Ja nee stem, al die punte wat gemaak is, is geldig. Veral die laaste een. Die goed is redelike goed en sal goed doen. Ek voel die selfde.
@Boishaai Old Boy: Wel ! Indien Wiese en Smit ook ingesluit was, sou WP 11 spelers gehad het van verlede jaar se veloor span. Hulle is ook beide goeie spelers.Daar is darem ook n hele tros Leeus spelers wat ook n plek verdien het, wie se name ek nie nou sal noem nie. Hulle was egter nie op skool in SA Skole spanne nie, en dus nie sogenaamde naam spelers nie. Hulle het egter verlede jaar beslis getoon het dat hulle op skolevlak heeltemaal mis gekyk is, veral by by die kies van die SA Skole spanne. Lyk vir my maar of die keurders hulle steeds blind staar teen reputasies van spelers op skole vlak, wat ons almal maar weet taamlik verdag is, met voorkeure aan sekere skole se seuns,kwotas ens.
Ek is beslis nie negatief oor die span nie. Die grootste meerderheid van die span is baie goed en gekies op meriete. Ek wil ook sê dat daar vanjaar nie te veel gekla kan word oor kwota spelers nie. Daar is n klomp blink sterre in hierdie groep. My gripe is net dat sekere spelers maar altyd aan die agterspeen moet suig, en soveel meer moet doen om raak gesien te word. Ander weer ry die gravy trein gemaklik, en word gekies sonder om baie te sweet.
@Vleis: I have to agree. A system needs to be put in place to prevent that from happening. Maybe a draft process after varsity cup or something down those lines.
@Kattes-Strofes: Oh okay ek verstaan. Ongelukkig vir sy part. Cobus Wiese en Cornel Smit is ook ongelukkig om uittemis.
@Kattes-Strofes: @Speartackle: …and this is why the best schoolboys in the world become mediocre thereafter: poor preparation, terrible selections, bias, crap coaching, etc, etc.
@Boishaai Old Boy: Nee ! Kan ook nie sy weglating verstaan nie ! Hy en sy familie verwerk die teleurstelling egter goed. Rakende my opmerking oor die min Leeus in die span. Ek is seker dat daar geweldig baie vrae sou wees indien n Stormers Super span, n Leeus Super span met 60-19 sou klop, en daarna net 3 spelers teenoor die 9 van die Leeus in n Bok span kry, of hoe ?
@Kattes-Strofes: Ek verstaan ook nie die groot getal WP bo Lions spelers na verlede jaar se 0/19 finaal fiasko
Provinsialisme sal maar altyd Part en Parcel wees van SA Rugby
Gaan daar ooit ooit weer n tydperk in SA Rugby wees waar die beste span gekies sal word????
I thought this was the final squad with Ernst v Rhyn captain
Player Province Position
Juarno Augustus DHL Western Province Loose forward
Kwenzo Blose* Toyota Free State Cheetahs Prop
Curwin Bosch* Cell C Sharks Flyhalf/Fullback
David Brits DHL Western Province Centre
Jean-Luc Cilliers Xerox Golden Lions Flyhalf
Zain Davids* DHL Western Province Loose forward
Francois de Villiers Cell C Sharks Scrumhalf
Stedman Gans* Vodacom Blue Bulls Centre
Johan Grobbelaar (vice-captain) Vodacom Blue Bulls Hooker
Wikus Groenewald DHL Western Province Prop
Daniel Jooste DHL Western Province Hooker
Rewan Kruger Toyota Free State Cheetahs Scrumhalf
Manie Libbok* Vodacom Blue Bulls Flyhalf/Fullback
Gianni Lombard Xerox Golden Lions Fullback
Len Massyn Xerox Golden Lions Loose forward
Lee-Marvin Mazibuko DHL Western Province Prop
Salmaan Moerat DHL Western Province Lock
Reinhard Nothnagel Xerox Golden Lions Lock
Embrose Papier* Vodacom Blue Bulls Scrumhalf
Yaw Penxe EP Kings Winger
Carlű Sadie* DHL Western Province Prop
Wandisile Simelane Xerox Golden Lions Centre/Wing
Hendre Stassen Vodacom Blue Bulls Lock
Gerhard Steenekamp Vodacom Blue Bulls Prop
Ruben van Heerden Vodacom Blue Bulls Lock
Damian Willemse DHL Western Province Flyhalf
Nama Xaba DHL Western Province Loose forward
Ernst van Rhyn* (captain) DHL Western Province Loose forwa
@Kattes-Strofes: Geluk aan die manne. Is Reuben de Villiers beseer?
Baie geluk aan die 28 manne wat gekies is om ons land se eer te verdedig ! Veral geluk aan die 5 Boishaai manne,Daniel, Gianni,JeanLuc,Salmaan en Wikus. Dan natuurlik ook aan die ander Leeu welpies,Len, Reinhardt en Wandesile.
Hierdie is n baie talentvolle groep en behoort die kompetisie te wen. Daar is maar soos altyd n hele paar manne wat bitter ongelukkig kan voel dat hulle nie die span gemaak het nie. Ek voel ook baie jammer vir hulle. Ek moet tog noem dat dit baie vreemd is dat daar slegs 3 spelers van die Leeus se kampioen o/19 span van verlede jaar ingesluit is. Dit bly vreemd, aangesien daar nie minder nie as 9 WP spelers tans ingesluit is, wat verlede jaar in die eindstryd was, wat met 60- 19 afgeransel is.Goed ! Dinge soos afrigting speel beslis n groot rol. Maar !Verlede jaar se Leeutjies het op individuele vlak ook hul teenstanders oorskadu in die wedstryd.
Nietemin! Die spelers kies nie hulself nie, en ons sal bankvas agter hulle staan !