| Rank | Team | Avg |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | HJS Paarl | 4.64 |
| 2 | Glenwood | 4.60 |
| 3 | Paarl Gim | 4.41 |
| 4 | Grey College | 4.27 |
| 5 | Affies | 4.25 |
| 6 | Oakdale | 3.82 |
| 7 | EG Jansen | 3.69 |
| 8 | Boland Landbou | 3.45 |
| 9 | Grey PE | 3.40 |
| 10 | Monument | 3.39 |
| 11 | Paul Roos | 3.35 |
| 12 | Selborne | 3.33 |
| 13 | Dale College | 3.21 |
| 14 | Jeppe | 3.16 |
| 15 | Helpmekaar | 3.15 |
| 16 | SACS | 3.11 |
| 17 | Diamantveld | 2.92 |
| 18 | Kearsney | 2.85 |
| 19 | Outeniqua | 2.77 |
| 20 | Welkom Gim | 2.71 |
| 21 | DHS | 2.67 |
| 22 | Hilton | 2.67 |
| 23 | Garsfontein | 2.63 |
| 24 | Nelspruit | 2.59 |
| 25 | Pietersburg | 2.50 |
| 26 | Rondebosch | 2.50 |
| 27 | Voortrekker (Bethlehem) | 2.42 |
| 28 | Worcester Gim | 2.41 |
| 29 | Ben Vorster | 2.36 |
| 30 | Potchefstroom Volkskool | 2.23 |
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@BoishaaiPa: Kan hom ook nie uitfigure nie, maar dit was maar donker, so sal seker nooit weet nie…
@Scrum5: Ek is baie dinge insluitend nederig elke week!
@Ploegskaar: Daar is maar altyd paar beserings altwee kante toe…Die spanne wat speel is die 1ste spanne. Ek het so ligte gevoeltjie die geluk gaan dalk nie die Saterdag aan ons kant wees nie!…Ek kan nog net nie lekker uitfigure wat het julle teen Diamantveld gedoen nie..
@Ploegskaar Sjoe Ploegie maar jy is darem nederig die week!
@Kattes-Strofes: @BoishaaiPa: @odie15: Ja, baie asse, maar ek is nie ‘n ou vir die comments kolom nie, beste span is die een wat aan einde op scoreboard voor is. 2011 bal verloor oor doelyn, 2012 onderskep Dewald (alhoewel ek voel telling het Boland gevlei), 2013 was ek net bly telling was nie te hoog, 2014 was daar die vaskop (maar as ek reg onthou ook baie Bois beserings) en 2015 die “pass” (alhoewel ons ook met ‘n paar dinge weggekom het). Bly egter ‘n hoogtepunt op my kalender, wen of verloor, net iets spesiaal omtrent ‘n stryd teen jou bure
@odie15: Yes..I was standing right in line with the tryline when that moved happend..I still turned to and Old Boy next to me and said the only thing that can save us is a tight head…and we got it!..And if I recall it was Curtley Grain who slided over for the try.
@Ploegskaar: the 2014 match is the 1 I remember the most. Somehow a tighthead on last minute ending in a try to win the game.
@BoishaaiPa: the streak is being played down a lot. And yes Sean and co aren’t interested in it. They will appreciate it only years from now. As we all will. It’s an awesome space to be in even as a supporter/spectator. The Bois will look back 1 day and see it as of their best achievements in life. Not many schools have been through this in fact I believe only 1 has.
@Ploegskaar: Dit was 2013 toe BH 24-13 gewen het wat ek daar naby die twee Carsten broers en Frans Malherbe (in sy moonboot) op die klubhuis stoep gestaan het toe Jonti vir Frans kap dat hy die laaste wen teen BH gekry het, maar hy kan nie die BH kaptein onthou nie..”Wie was nou weer kaptein daai jaar Frans?”….
@Kattes-Strofes: Ek dink daar is n ander Paarl span wat dalk meer ons bogey span is!…At least wen ons genoeg teen Boland laaste 7 jaar!
@Ploegskaar: Daardie stats vertel eintlik die hele verhaal. Ek was net die vorige 5 jaar betrokke by Boishaai, en die 1ste span wedstryd was elke keer n riller. Ek het verlede jaar kommentaar gelewer op die Ruggas webtuiste, en onthou nog goed hoe tense die stryd was , met die wendrie wat eers reg op die einde gekom het. Die manne wat al baie langer by Boishaai betrokke is, vertel dieselfde verhaal.
Dit wil blyk of Boland ,Boishaai se bogey span is, soortgelyk aan wat Gim weer Boland se bogey span is!
@BoishaaiPa: Ja, was P22 W11 L9 D2 op daai stadium, dit was mooi en goed, maar dit was lank terug
@Ploegskaar: As ek so na daai stats van jou kyk moes Boishaai voor 2010 redelik aan die agtertiet gesuig het. Sedert julle laaste wen in 2009 het ons nou darem 7 in n ry gewen om julle in totaal verby te steek…ons het eers gelykop getrek met 2012 se wen.
@Ploegskaar: Ja..dit was nog altyd close..elke game wat ek die laaste 8 jaar gekyk het was tot op die laaste nog in die weegskaal en ek dink nie dit gaan anders wees komende Saterdag nie. Ek dink nie dat julle die BH game as belangriker ag nie…ek dink net daar is n ekstra bonussie betrokke!
As mens kyk na die Wynland spanne se wedstryde oor laaste 30 jaar sal jy sien hulle is almal baie naby mekaar…Gim het sedert 2000 so bietjie on BH uitgetrek met wenne, maar die totale punteverskil oor 100 jaar is is slegs 5 punte…Wedstryde tussen PR en HJS is ook altyd meestal binne 5 tot 10 punte, met so nou en dan n uitskieter na weerskante….Selfde met Boland vs PR en HJS…Dis hoekom daar gesonde kompetisie is..geen span is seker wat op die dag gaan gebeur nie en almal het ewe goeie kans om te wen…Virseker is daar altyd gunstelinge as na vorm en resultate gekyk word, maar die resulteit is nie uitgemaakte saak nie.
@BoishaaiPa: @Kattes-Strofes: Moet my nie verkeerd verstaan nie, natuurlik gaan die afrigters beplan en spelers opdraf en speel om te wen, maar Boishaai is vir ons net so ‘n groot game as Gim en PRG, dit bly maar die drie games wat saakmaak.
Bietjie stats, sedert 1962 het die twee spanne 28 gespeel, Boland wen 11, Boishaai 15 en 2 was gelykop. Punte vir Boland 395, punte vir Boishaai 424, gemiddelde telling Boland 14 Boishaai 15
@odie15: The unbeaten status of Boishaai is not a issue for me personally as they have to loose a game sometime in the future…I would prefer sooner rather than later!..What it is though, is a tribute to Sean and his boys for putting up their hands and keep producing game after game. Having spoken to Sean and Elmo, the feeling I get is that this unbeaten status is not a monkey on their backs, but rather a legacy they enjoy being part of for the moment. They just want to improve week by week and if they keep on winning doing that, its a bonus!
@BoishaaiPa: Van my bure is ook Boland ouers, en een se seun speel 1ste span. Die storie wat ek by hulle kry vertel ook n heel ander verhaal. Hulle wil die 1ste span wees om ons vlag te laat sak. So ek verwag n reuse aanslag! Nietemin, soos Ploeg tereg gese het. “Dit bly steeds net n wedstryd tussen twee spanne,” en ja, die een of ander tyd sal ons ook verloor, en die wereld sal nog steeds voortbestaan. Solank die seuns dit net geniet!
@BoishaaiPa: the Bois are talking about the efforts of De La SAlle high school in the States. 12 years in 151 matches unbeaten streak. That’s about 13 matches a season. Now I don’t know how that was Achieved or how strong their league was but that’s some going. I don’t see it even as a possibility or even a dream by any school in the current setup in SA. The 87 by Grey is monstrous and trying to complete this term has been massive. SACS has stuck their hand up I see and seems to poke a finger in Mark Keohane’s eye after his ridiculous article. Mind you his fingers seem to be elsewhere.
The league is what it is and you get onboard or struggle as that’s all that make Bok rugby strong.
@odie15: 4 of the 7 Backs will as well…be it in CW or Academy sides.
@BoishaaiPa: looking fwd to this weekend. The end of a titanic campaign. Backs are battle bruised galore 5 week recovery will be good, unfortunately the forwards have to March on through in some new stripes.
@Ploegskaar: Ek weet nie so lekker van daai stelling nie…Desember al het Deon vir my daar op Struisbaai oor n paar biere gese dat Boland skuld hulle supporters n wen oor Boishaai…Jy kan maar by hom gaan bevestig oor ons gesprek..
…Ek dink nie die game word as “net nog n game” gesien nie. Of ons nou onoorwonne was of nie, Boland is lus vir Boishaai!…
@Ploegskaar: Ek en jy weet mos beide dat op enige gegewe dag kan enige span in top 20 enige ander span in daai top 20 wen !
@Trots HJS (Tandem): Tot 2009 was die nog ‘n grote, maar sederdien en al was daar ‘n paar naelbyters, was dit maar eenrigting verkeer en lyk ons mooi rekord teen HJS nie meer so great. Oloff werk gewis hard, maar niks anders as voor enige ander game, daar is nie verwagtinge nie
@Ploegskaar: Hi Ploeg ou maat ek bedoel dit jong . Landbou speel altyd hul beste game teen Boishaai en ek weet mos hoe hard Oloff werk vir die game . Ek kom al te lang pad met hierdie kragmeting ou vriend dit gaan tande kners kos , veral op die plaas .
@Trots HJS (Tandem): ? dit sê julle elke Saterdag, voor elke game, oor elke opponent! Hel daai rekord weeg swaar om die nekke! Bly ons het nie daai druk nie, net nog ‘n game man, 30 seuns tussen 4 lyne en ‘n ovaal bal ?
@Kattes-Strofes: Het jou op die ander thread geantwoord, maar sal nou maar weer synde Landbou ter sprake is. Daar word geen lippe afgelek nie en Landbou tel gewis nie in die klas van Grey, Affies, Monnas ens. nie. Net nog ‘n taai game teen ‘n great Boishaai span, dat Boishaai tans no1 is en 34 games onoorwonne is, het niks met ons uit te waai nie, die afrigters/spelers berei voor soos vir enige ander Saterdag
Landbou on Saturday will be a huge mountain to climb on the Farm . Landbou has got a great team and are well coached .
@BOG: I really never thought I will get something I can agree with Bog about but here I have to . Regardless if one agree or disagree about Hansie Cronje’s place in South African history he remains a Grey old boy and therefore part of the Grey family . Family stick together even if they don’t agree what a family member may have done . Well done for Grey to stand up for a follow family member . I don’t believe it show character to suddenly ” disown ” someone just because it is now fashionable . I for one was bitterly disappointed by what Hansie has done but that will be between him and our Heavenly Father and not for me to judge . Well done Grey for standing up for a family member .
@Kattes-Strofes: Nobody is responding to you as we are in agreement and it is a ‘boring’ brag. Boishaai is undisputed.
Sorry to chip in here! I though that the heading of this thread is the current rankings from BoishaaiPa! I do also like cricket and do some reporting on it for the local press. However, should we not send a request to Beet to start a seperate thread on cricket, and maybe also politics, to satisfy some bloggers?
I mentioned on the weekend’s results thread that I will only brag till the weekend is finished, and I will stick to my word.
Looking at Boishaai’s fixture list, I cannot find any other school who have such a demanding list of fixtures. We have, and will still play nine of the current Top 20 sides, of which five schools are in the Top 10. Over the past two seasons, Boishaai have played almost all of the top sides, with maybe the exeption of Glenwood(who was poor in 2015 by their own standards), and possibly Grey PE (who had a good run last year). So I do think that we as supporters can certainly do a small bit of bragging, at this stage.
This is my final brag, and I will from now on become more humble. A rampant Boland Landbou High is awaiting us on Saturday on their farm, with their tails up, as their recent results shows, which includes a century victory this past weekend.
And I did read the “Hansie Cronje-his Life Story” by Garth King. Nothing was said in that book which compromised his integrity.
Biblical texts? Not a bad idea, but that just seems common sense to me. Not long before that, a character mentioned here, went out of his way to defend a player who was on a charge of rape- by all accounts guilty. And he went on to represent SA with “distinction” and a “role model”. And as I have said repeatedly, if we were all called to draw up an honest balance sheet, HC would out perform 99% of us. That is a fact. To stone him is the height of hypocrisy. And to suggest that the socalled trial/hearing was fair, is absurd. And who is Garth King? “Unauthorised biography says it all. I cringed when I watched some of the most corrupt vultures gather-some as spectators others as aspiring “prosecutors”, supposedly to ensure that “justice was done”. If not so tragic, it would have been a circus. Whether you like it or not, Hansie remains a popular figure to this day, 14 yrs after his tragic death. His alma mater will certainly not deny him, and rightly so.
It took me years to form an opinion of HC after his death. I’d admired him as player and captain. That was until I read : The Hansie Cronje Story – an authorised biography by Garth King. Hansie did play a significant role in SA cricket, but undid it with his actions that led to his sacking. He may not be the only guilty party by any means, But I believe a captain should lead by example on and off the field. Hansie a few times presented an offer to throw matches to his players only for senior players in the squad to turn it down emphatically. What sort of character does this. It doesn’t help at all that Bog exhorts us with biblical texts. National players, even more so with captains of national teams, are held to a far higher ethical behaviour than us mere mortals. That is why they are captains. Bog seems to believe that HC was framed and hung out to dry. Far from it.
Another delusional comment from a warped little man. So where do you draw the line? Robbing a bank. This arrogant guy betrayed his country for money. So much for your perceived gvb values
@boerboel: Certainly millions. Just in Sri Lanka and India there are millions and then in SA. Do you really think that his known sin is bigger than your (unrevealed) sin and mine? That is not only self-righteous but more than delusional. And GCB will never turn their back on him. And that IS the right thing.
Millions. Don’t be delusional. Wake up and smell the roses. Grey should do the right thing and remove his name etc-he was atraitor
@boerboel: Millions- at GCB, Bloemfontein, FS, SA, around the world, whether you like it or not. While the sanctimonious vultures who attended his theatrical trial, are all long forgotten.
Cronje a hero ? For whom. Indian bookmakers. ????
@boerboel: Your opinion is of no consequence whatsoever. His influence and impact on SA cricket was far reaching. “Hansie is our hero, he shall not be moved—“
@Roger: i agree with you re Smith. Lekker hardegat en sterk in die kop soutie daai.
En dan is daar Minki…..
He’s got my vote.
Hansie Cronje -a disgrace for Sa sport. Fairly average cricketer as well as his test ave shows
@Roger: Your comments actually confirm HOW delusional you are. Hansies popularity goes far beyond the borders of SA, to places like Sri Lanka where he is remembered and honoured to this very day.@BoishaaiPa: Jy en jou speelmaatjie het n “button”. Stuur net die bewyse van my s.g ongeskiktheid vir Beet- as julle so iets het@Aanslaan: Ja, n probleem van ons tyd. Die woorde, “hy wie sonder sonde is, laat hy die eerste klip gooi”, lui hier in my ore. Maar hier sal ons dit maar moet opvolg met iets soos “Julle klomp vroom self-geregtigdes, moenie almal dieselfde tyd julle klippe gooi nie” Gelukkig beteken hulle s.g opinies oor Hansie, absoluut niks nie. Tydens sy verhoor, eintlik nader aan n sirkus, was iets om van naar te word. Om te sien hoe daar van die mees korruptes, met lang sedige gesigte sit “om toe te sien dat geregtigheid” kwansuis sou geskied, was n absolute “aborsie” van n verhoor. Nie lank voor dit nie, het dieselfde karakter wie hierbo genoem word, uit sy pad gegaan, met morele en finansiele steun, om n speler wie aangekla was van verkragting, onskuldig te bewys. Die verskil was dat Hansie wit was en uit die Vrystaat kom. Maar die gespuis het hulle misreken met die steun wat Hansie, verdienstelik sou kry.
@BoishaaiPa: we know who the team is. Not many surprises here. I see 10 x BBC.CO and 8 EP from 2015 CW! Do they have psychology departments for those boys of EP…..I mean Mafu started playing fullback cos Curwin Bosche took up right wing already.
@Roger: Where is the like button?
@Aanslaan: Ek is groot krieket man..Hansie was my man…toe doen hy dit aan my sport. Ek was neer teen die grond.
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@chief: Blykbaar gaan die seuns eers uitvind net voor hulle moet opdraf vir die eerste game…nee hel..dis n moerse staatsgeheim lyk dit my. Nog wedstryde teen Suid streek ens ens…ek dink die span is al lankal gekies…WP admin is maar bang vir kommentaar.
@Aanslaan: right – lets interrogate that statement for a moment – “Smith was gaga kaptein”:
Youngest ever SA captain
First ever SA captain to win a test series in Australia (not once but twice)
First ever SA captain to win back to back series in England
Took SA to the number one ranking in both test and one day cricket
Highest test average by a captain who opened the batting
More than 8000 test runs as an openiing bat at an average of 48 plus and whilst captaining the side in every match bar two
Did not lose an away series between 2005 and 2013 when he then retired
Gaga captain – I think not
BTW – Hansie had Pollock, Kallis, Cullinan, Klusener, Donald, Kirsten et al in his side – “maklik dink ek”
As you said – only tall trees catch the wind. At least Smith is not an admitted match fixer and cheat and – trust me – it is only in certain parts of SA, more specifically the Free State, where Hansie is regarded as some sort of hero. The rest of the cricketing world have very little regard for him.
@BoishaaiPa:
Klein bietjie van die krieket topic, maar weer jy dalk wanneer die WP CW Span afgekondig word? En teen wie speel hulle gewoonlik vir opwarming?
Naand manne ek wil net se ek lees nou seker al vir 3 jaar graag die blog en voel of ek ‘n paar van julle al goed ken. Het egter nog nooit in gelog en kommentaar gelewer nie. Voel net ek kan dit nie los nie.
@Roger & Ringo tipies omdat Hansie Afrikaanse seun was sal julle hom nie krediet gee vir sy kapteinskap nie! Ja sy kapteinskap nie wat hy van die veld verkeerd gedoen het nie net sy krieket. Greame was goeie opening bat maar gaga kaptein. En soos een van julle 2 oor Hansie gesê het hy was gelukkig om in die era van Kallis,Steyn,Amla, AB ens kaptein te wees. Maklik dink ek.
My 2 sent en jammer nie oor skole rugby gewees nie
@Bog die hoogste bome vang altyd die meeste wind
@BoishaaiPa: @Gimoldboy: you are so right – my apologies – going forward; I resolve to ignore the old fool……
Ja ja Bog-how’s life in your parallel universe pal – treating old timers like you well I hope? There is one thing (at the very least) that me, Ringo and (I assume) you have over “the devil made me do it” Hansie, is that we did not lie, cheat and steal whilst captaining our country – End of.
As for Bacher, my reference to him was as captain of probably the most successful and talented South African cricket team that has represented this country. As a statesman, adminstrator and cricketer he is respected and admired world wide but I guess that, in your parallel universe, where an admitted liar, cheat and match fixer like Cronje is a hero, someone like Bacher wouldn’t cut it.
@Gimoldboy:You are right..my apology..the saying goes…” Never argue with stupid people..they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience”…
@BOG: Hey BOG, Hansie took the fall for many people. Even Ray Macaulay good mileage out of Hansie. Hansie was a machine, CW number 8. People never forgive and move on.
@BoishaaiPa: @BOG: Guys, this is a SBR blog- not a court case.
@Roger: Bacher !!!! Hahaha. Only legal consequences prevent me from responding to that claim. And I know many cricketers, past and present, who would share my view.Who again, calculated and presented him with his separation package? My memory has failed me. And as far as Hansie is concerned, he would still out perform you and Rongo, and I by a mile, morally.@BoishaaiPa: Yet again, you accuse me of being arrogant and rude while you try and justify what you have said with some vague, non-specific comment “I dont need to point it out” Fact is, you cant. You confuse truth with insults, because the truth hurts. I challenge you- present your evidence to Beet. Any person who accuses another of being an “embarrassment”, must, by implication,be elevating himself, to a position of moral “high ground” and self-righteousness.Simple
@BOG: Once again your arrogance is showing…you dont even realize when you are insulting someone…there is enough evidence..I dont need to point it out. Also implying I am a self appointed role model is so far of track its laughable. I am just a supporter…thats all.
@odie15: We probably have…if you have played golf with him you would have either played with me or met me at the club.
@Roger: backers record since ’92 as a turncoat casts a shadow over him…..But Graeme is AWESOME!
@Roger: Eish only this man can get me to agree with you while Biff ” Graeme Smith” has been less than stellar role model of the field he is by far the most successful and our best post isolation captain on the cricket field way better than Mr the devil made me do it Cronje. Shameful individual he was absolute travesty robbed a whole nation of world cup who could have been double world champs in 99 but instead he resurrected aussie cricket dominance. Even Shaun Pollock was a better captain. Hansie just happened to skipper the most talented and well balanced SA teams ever and them proceeded to rob them. True gentlemen knows how to rob dumb Africans.
@robbie: Alan D must have been on take for him to run while there were 4 balls left needing one run with one of the cleanest hitters of the cricket ball standing at the opposite end. He is either truly stupid or co-conspirator.
@BoishaaiPa: have we met before? I will be at the game tomorrow.
@BoishaaiPa: nice we’ve played a few rounds of golf together. He’s maybe my favourite headboy from school.
Cheese and Rice – now I have heard it all – Bog defending Hansie. Whatever shred of credibility you may have had has all but dissipated.
and BTW – the greatest ever cricket skipper SA has ever had is:
a) Graeme Smith
b) Ali Bacher
undisputed – and not because they are from KES – look at their records
The captain is a criminal and was guided by shere avarice and arrogance. Guess where he got that.
@boerboel: @robbie: As I pointed out, if we all drew up an honest “balance sheet” of our lives, Hansie would outperform 99% of us, which would include the two of you and I. Thankfully, he remains a hero at GCB and far beyond the school, the city, the country— The best captain SA has ever had. And I, along with many, salute him.
@BoishaaiPa: I cannot recall asking you for your opinion, but since you have offered it anyway, you yet again claim that I have insulted someone, without one shred of evidence being presented. You seem to have claimed a mandate from everyone regarding my behaviour and opinions expressed. Of course there are those who would disagree with me- I disagree with them too. But there are others, who agree with me. Often, the truth irritates people, particularly those who have created for themselves a fantasy world, wanting to pretend that that “everything is normal”in SA sport. Calling someone a P–S,is an insult. I have never claimed to speak on behalf of anyone or anything, but myself.I have asked Beet to give me a “neutral” jumper to remove all doubt, but he has said that he has, as yet, received no complaints. So, if you have evidence of my alleged rudeness, present it to Beet- maybe he will be persuaded to give me that jersey. I find it quite an irony that you presumptuously accuse me of being an embarrassment to my jersey, while you, clearly under the influence at the time, insult me with gutter language, hardly the behaviour indicative of a self appointed role model.
@odie15: Stephan lees die blog so nou en dan….ek is goeie vriende met hom!
@BOG: Get over it…You cannot seem to understand that your comments brings out the worse in people and then you want to sit back and claim innocence and “gentlemanly behavior”…No sir..With your jibes and sarcastic remarks you do rile people up so it is exactly the same type of behavior as swearing at someone..you been in politics all your life…You are a pro at insulting people….I just take the short route!
@sewes Jy het genoem dat jou seun se enkel beseer is. Hoop die besering is van korte duur aangesien ons hom gaan nodig kry noudat die Beeld in alle erns begin. Wil ook probeer uitpluis wie jy is. Speel jou seun in die o15 span?
@sewes: Not another word from me
@Playa:Dont bring the wife into this.I have enough shit over my time spend on the blog.
I’m two-minded about Hansie Cronje. I want to honour him for his achievements, but he failed in his greatest challenge. Ya, I can possibly forgive him and he may have taken the blame for others, but I cannot get it out of my head that he misguidedly encouraged his team mates to follow his example. He laid the temptations before his team mates and relied on them to lead and refuse to participate. Read The Hansie Cronje Story – An authorised biography and his own word condemn him. Let’s get him out of our thoughts as a sporting hero. He certainly does not deserve sitting alongside sporting heroes such as Klusner, Jonty, Alan D, AB de Villiers etc. He tainted the game, the players with whom he associated and loyal SA supporters.
@sewes:
That was my point about survey results. One word answers, wont necessarily provide an accurate reflection…imagine a scenario where one’s wife asks “Do you think I look fat?”…
a) No (safe answer, but you probably have some reservations – and she’ll think you’re just being nice)
b) Yes (funeral policy better be up to date)
c) No, but you could work more on you abs (that headache she’s had for the last 14 nights suddenly disappears)
d) Yes, but you’ve lost a bit since December (hospital plan & medical aid better be up to date)
@Playa:I don’t want to write in ingels BUT….You see all the words before But is cancel.
@Leelu:wat is die seun se naam,miskien kan ek jou help.
Hansie Cronje was a traitor who sold his country for cash.As far as i am concerned all his records/caps should be deleted.We only saw/heard the tip of the iceberg.
@Bush: The question of whether one favours quotas or not is a complex one. I am not privy to how the survey question was structured. For example, asked to provide a stance in essay form, one can answer “No, I don’t support quotas, but…”. Whereas asked to just give a yes or no answer, the answer will be a plain “No”. This may lead to a skewed survey. I personally do not support quotas, BUT…
@Bush: About half a century ago. Telling you the exact year, would almost certainly reveal my identity. Already, you have people, under the influence, speculating about identities, and involving “innocent” individuals. But no, I dont know the person who you are referring to. Most of us are “champion quality”, salt of the earth type of people, LOL. No, unfortunately, all types, with all political convictions. But do try and find that article, because there you can really see how unreliable their (regimes) word is regarding sport (and most other things).
@BOG: BOG reading between the lines, is fairness for all South Africans on the sporting platform. Which is how the boys compete at School. If my Son comes second then so be it. The best man won.
What year did you finish at Grey, as I’m friends with Chris Roux. Champion guy.
@BOG: no worries will find it. But politicians use sport avenue when they stuck in mud. Especially rugby quotas. Some stage they have no leg to stand on and have to bite the bullet when majority vote them out. Hopefully sooner than later. I am sure majority of Africans in SA aren’t particularly worried about rugby they love their Bafana Bafana and local football team and support Ama Boko Boko when winning WCs and doing well.
@odie15: Im rather afraid of becoming too involved or obsessed with stats and and records. I have seen what it has done to the mental make-up of some people. Have a look at “School of Rugby” and Rugby 15 of Nelio-you might find it there. Sorry about the link which I gave above- it “not being available” A pity, because there they call on merit only and NO political interference in sport. Worth searching it. No wonder Abdul Minty has gone into hiding abroad. Even he must be ashamed.
@BOG: I have been looking at win streaks. The Famous 1000 days by Andre T is on top of list for Grey somehow. I see they had better 80s streak of 87 matches. But 2001/2/3 seasons seem better can’t find results for the years of 2000 and 2004. With just the 3 years combined it’s 56 matches unbeaten with 3 draws. 2000 has 1 loss vs Boishaai in May fixture would leave on average 9 more games in that year. So I get to 65. 2004 this gives us remainder possible matches unbeaten could be 70. Anyone have those results? I think this might be best period for Grey in my opinion. But last 8 years or so schools rugby in different league with new era of travel and festivals big testing arena. Anyone have record for other besides Grey on win streak? I think Bishops might have a decent streak from 80s but can’t think of anyone else.
@Bush: No, they were all involved in FS trials as far as I know and the provisional team was announced for the usual trial match against the Griffons.@odie15: Now that you should mention Hansie, they commemorated the 14th year of his passing away and Im pleased to see that he is still regarded a hero- beyond the boundaries of GCB. I still maintain that if we were all to draw up a balance sheet of our lives- an honest one, Hansie would still out perform 99% of us. An extract of a document compiled by Abdul Minty and presented to the UN in 1971, regarding sport in SA, follows. It reminds me of those “before” and “after” diet photos, in this case just before and after gaining power- a 360 turn around. The ANC position on sports boycotts in 1971 https://www.facebook.com/837412386271672/photos/a.1111228612223380.1073741828.837412386271672/1227831267
@odie15: 100% correct. I think the majority of us on this blog have kids and their best friends aren’t white. I’m just glad that BOG is still alive, Playa seems to be missing. Has he hooked up with Spear in Umhlanga?
BOG did Grey play last week, I can’t find on the fixture list they are playing this weekend.
Great to see 4 KZN Schools in the Top 30. Well done. All the best to the schools in action this weekend. Best of luck to GW it’s going to be tough.
College DHS is going to be a mean game.
@BOG: yes that’s true my school days at Boishaai we had very tough rugby seasons. I believe those days the league was quite strong in the western cape. Bishops were particularly tough opposition and we didn’t beat them at all in my high school days. That’s bit different now the southern suburbs schools in Cape Town show some form every other year but not as strong as back in 80s and 90s. We played Grey in ’87 St John’s were beaten by them, I still have the photograph of our Capt Stephan v/d Walt shaking Hansies’ hand before match. The banter shared on this blog is great. Sometimes it’s passionate and is over zealous boasting but great stuff. The article well politicians are politicians and don’t particularly care about anything other than themselves. I don’t care about the makeup of teams. I don’t like being forced to do anything my neck hairs stand on end when told to do anything. My son’s best friends aren’t white and will represent school at CW and SA schools this year. There’s no colour ever mentioned they in my house regularly they people and talented rugby players who made the team by themselves without assistance. Their results on the field prove they not mere representatives but there on merit. I don’t care about colour I just care about winning!
@BOG: suurPRUIM.
@Bush: Thanks, I saw that article. And for those who are familiar with opinion polls, will know that a sample of 2000 people, is not unreasonable. Its compiled according to strict guidelines, but allowes for an “error factor” or margin of about 3- 5%. Im sure that there will be people here who will know more detail than I. Bottom line however, the polls are pretty accurate . As far as Player is concerned, we have certainly had our differences, but dealt with them in a civilized manner. Im sure he is familiar with what I really feel- we have discussed that over a period of time.@odie15: @Losbal: Julle moet maar elders gaan lees en julle sal my kommentaar daar sien. Ek vermy egter, sover moontlik, kakpraat, suip en skel, blykbaar n voorvereiste vir n “trotse rolmodel” in sekere streke. Wat verloor betref, is dit maar goed. Dit hou mens nederig en gee vir jou perspektief in die lewe.En nie dat ek n “verloor” nodig het om my iets te leer oor nederigheid nie- ek het al vele lesse hieroor geleer. Maar ek is seker julle twee here, het volgehoue ervaring van hierdie gevoel oor n veel langer tydperk, en as julle dit wil deel, luister ek graag. Julle behoort, bloot uit ervaring, gesoute beraders oor die saak te wees.
@odie15: Bog is erg gewond na die Brugstraat veldslag. Finale nekslag toegedien na die Volksblad veldslag.
Maar in true Grey spirit sal hy nie gaan lê nie. Gee hom net dag of twee om sy wonde te lek.
@Bush: shame been 2 weeks since we last saw Bog
@Prlgim: I heard Spear has a Lekker plek in Toti. Plenty space.
@odie15: I only posted it as there was such negativeness regarding the Sports Ministers decision on sport in SA. I was hoping this would make BOG and Playa friends again?.
@Bush: really stupid article actually…..2000 something people asked a question out of 50million. I don’t agree with quotas as I believe the cream comes to the top. And they should start at the bottom to create a strength of it all. Cape Town schools selected on merit 100%. Same with CW team of WP will be pure merit. But those politicians have to use something to get votes and it is voting season after all.
Evening WP teams will be announced after the coastal tournament in Oudtshoorn on 16 en 17 June There are two squads currently practising but officially announced on Monday 20th June Hope Durbs has enough accommodation for late WC parent bookings and flights …
Monnas vs Glenwood preview; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA4Fxt3wyac&feature=youtu.be
@Greenman: Well our record vs Affies, Monnas and Grey Bloem isn’t great, but at least we do have a win over each of them, something that wouldn’t even have been dreamed about in my day;
Grey 2006 (Home) – 14-10
Affies 2008 (Home) 24-7, 2009 (Away) 24-10 & 2014 (Away) 36-22. 2015 was a close one with a loss in the last secs.
Monnas 2012 – 25-18 (At Kearsney)
But 5 wins from probably 25 games is not a great haul at all.
@boerboel: just to add – I believe dogs have a wonderful life and add quite a bit more value than cats. Bears have missed the plot with all the sleeping though – trying to get that one sorted.
Brother from another mother – noooo ???????
Also, just to add ALL rankings are a gauge or temperature check of the teams, in no way are they ever going to be accurate. Unless teams play each other on a round robin basis assumptions have to be made. On gut feel, I would say Boishaai are No1, Grey Bloem 2, Affies 3, Paarl Gim 4, Oakdale 5 and then a bun-fight for the rest.
@boerboel: I thought cats liked to play with the hoppy, skippy, jumpy things – not dogs. Dogs sleep, hump bitches and wee against other people’s property. Or do I have this all wrong? hehehe
accepted. My mistake 8) 8) 8)
@boerboel: These rankings are done by BoishaaiPa, that would indicate he is a Paarl Boys supporter, but he applies a mathematical equation and is always objective and neutral when it comes to this.
Which part do you not understand. That gw are overrated/the rankings ha a gw bias .fairly straightforward .
Afternoon BOG, found this article written by Playa. http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/most-black-south-africans-oppose-sport-quotas-survey-20160531
Playa you machine, share your millions.
@boerboel: Afternoon, I never though there would be someone worse than me. At least I can make sense of my statements. Hell you make absolutely no sense.
@boerboel: That’s a stupid comment , read the Glenwood bloggers comments on this thread … There are still tough games for them to be played which will determine their final placing this year.
g/wood overated-
as are their age group teams-this happens every year before they play half decent teams
i presume there is a kzn/g/wood involvement in these rankings?
Does anyone know when WP team will be selected.
@Naastrolia: Well Grey PE are up there too, a good side when I watched them at Easter, big pack.
@Naastrolia: Honestly, it’s going to take a hell of a lot of luck and a mircale to beat Affies in Pretoria, Grey at Glenwood is probably 25/75 in Grey’s favour and Monnas this weekend is 40/60 in Monnas favour. So really Glenwood could win 1 of those 3 tough fixtures and then hopefully be too strong for Westville and College, so it will be played: 18 won: 16 lost 2. An amazing season for us. But this is schoolboy rugby, anything can happen. We have never had an unbeaten season so this would be amazing for us. What is more exciting is that 2017 could be slightly better.
Gim and grey not Grey and Grey ;)
I think on their day any of Affies, HJS, Grey and Grey can beat each other and maybe even Oakdale after that there might be a bit of a gap.
I am a HJS supporter however even with the Grey game I thought the Free Staters could very very easily have one – that was one of the best cover defensive efforts I can recall.
Also Affies could easily have won at the death against HJS. Just shows how close the line between victory and defeat is. Should be able to have a brilliant SA Schools team this year with players such as Moerat, Willims, Gionni Lombaard, The Grey centres and of course Rass forming a great spine. From what i hear Gim has some great loosies and ditto for HJS
Yes no disrespect meant to them they might beat all these teams and correct we will have an better idea by the end of the year.
@Grasshopper: You remain carefully optimistic! That way no harm done!
@Vleis: And EG Jansen ranked 7th, but in a close bruising affair, so I think they at least Top 10 material
@Naastrolia: Well they hammered the top Kiwi school, so they must be half decent!
@Naastrolia: That is why it’s the ranking for the 28th of May and not the 28th of August. By then Glenwood would have played Monnas, College, Westville, Affies and Grey Bloem. The picture will be clearer. My gut feeling watching them (and you cannot judge on last weeks performance, they had 3 weeks off) that they around Top 10, probably around 9th.
With all due respect I believe that Glenwood would really struggle to beat any of Gim, Affies, Grey or Oakdale.