| DAY | DATE | SCHOOL | SCHOOL | EVENT | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tue | 20/05/2014 | Fichardtpark | 38 | 30 | Sand du Plessis | |
| Tue | 20/05/2014 | Humansdorp | 22 | 17 | Daniel Pienaar | |
| Wed | 21/05/2014 | St Charles | 31 | 7 | George Campbell | |
| Wed | 21/05/2014 | St Alban’s | 10 | 12 | Pretoria BH | |
| Wed | 21/05/2014 | Grey HS | Ithembelihle | |||
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Glenwood | 27 | 14 | Maritzburg College | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Westville | 34 | 23 | KES | KZN wins Grogper Cup 2014 |
| Fri | 23/05/2014 | Northwood | 6 | 11 | DHS | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | George Campbell | 19 | 15 | Voortrekker (Pmb) | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Richards Bay | 6 | 53 | Port Natal | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Kingswood | 73 | 3 | Caltex Raptors | Raptors = 5 East London Schools |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Grey HS | 31 | 18 | Wynberg | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Cambridge | 31 | 5 | Stirling | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Framesby | 22 | 16 | Boland Landbou | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Otto Du Plessis | 0 | 65 | Nico Malan | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Port Rex | 3 | 71 | Dale | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Queen’s | 42 | 29 | Graeme | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | St Andrew’s | 21 | 28 | Selborne | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Marlow | 29 | 38 | Hudson Park | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Brandwag (Uitenhage) | 66 | 41 | Punt | over 100 points scored |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Muir | 57 | 13 | Westerling | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Bellville | 35 | 15 | Strand | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Brackenfell | 5 | 30 | Durbanville | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | DF Malan | 10 | 38 | Oudtshoorn | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Oakdale | 23 | 22 | Outeniqua | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Hugenote | 23 | 19 | Drostdy | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | HJS Paarl BH | 10 | 15 | Grey College | On TV |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Paarl Gim | 34 | 12 | Bishops | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Paul Roos | 31 | 21 | Rondebosch | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | SACS | 13 | 27 | Stellenberg | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Swartland | 17 | 15 | Charlie Hofmeyr | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Tygerberg | 32 | 14 | De Kuilen | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Vredendal | 3 | 28 | Augsburg | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Pretoria BH | 22 | 15 | Parktown | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | St Stithians | 35 | 67 | St Benedict’s | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | St Alban’s | 37 | 3 | Sutherland High School | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Jeppe | 28 | 13 | John Vorster | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Waterkloof | 33 | 18 | Helpmekaar | On TV |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Affies | 21 | 20 | Centurion | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Garsfontein | 41 | 29 | Menlopark | On TV |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Florida | 19 | 32 | Monument | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | HTS Middelburg | 33 | 23 | Nelspruit | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Middelburg | 29 | 23 | HTS Witbank | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Jan Viljoen | 7 | 36 | Linden | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | EG Jansen | 96 | 16 | Marais Viljoen | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Goudveld | 18 | 25 | AHS Kroonstad | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Voortrekker (Beth) | 71 | 3 | Kroonstad HS | |
| Fri | 23/05/2014 | Witteberg | 29 | 38 | Hentie Cilliers | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Fichardtpark | 12 | 17 | Duineveld | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Jim Fouche | 32 | 57 | Louis Botha | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Diamantveld | 52 | 26 | Upington | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Die Anker | 10 | 31 | Vereeniging Gim | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Kempton Park | 53 | 5 | Jeugland | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Ermelo | 6 | 26 | Standerton | |
| Sat | 24/05/2014 | Transvalia | 35 | 10 | Volkskool Heidelberg |
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@Deon Pitzer: Ok dan verskoon ek julle………..doen dit in die kar dan
@Speartackle: Omdat ons voorouers nie in SA aangekom het op die Drommedaris nie!
Hoekom kry julle mekaar nie in Colesberg? Die Merino Inn het moerse groot beddens.
@Ploegskaar: Reg, goeie idee.
@Deon Pitzer: Selfde geld vir jou, jy kan my e-pos by Djou of Beet kry, dan wissel ons ‘n paar gedagtes oor die onderwerp. Wil nie graag ander se vuil was goed hier uithang nie.
@Djou: Sal jou my e-pos DM, dan ruil ons ‘n paar gedagtes uit.
@Rugbyman: Gee julle ook geleenthede aan kinders wat nie rugby speel nie? Maw, scout julle vir sterk akademiese kandidate in Darling?
@Rugbyman: Van geleenthede sal ontneem? Ai, wens ek het geweet waarvan jy praat. Mooi loop.
@Djou: @Deon Pitzer: @Tierklou: cheers manne… dis tyd om te groet en julle vaarwel te roep… gedog mens kan n verskil maak en bietjie perspektief inbring, maar dis duidelik nie moontlik nie… elke skool en provinsie is van opinie dat hy eiendomsreg op die kinders het en kinders van geleenthede sal ontneem vir eie gewin… so geniet skole rugby! Rugbyman oor en uit.
@Deon: Het gekry: Stuur nou vir jou.
@Deon: Reg so! Sal laat weet as ek die e-pos ontvang het.
@Djou: As beet nie die pas aanmaak nie, gee ek sommer my adres vir jou via die blog. Ek sien uit daarna.
@Deon: Great, ek praat graag met jou!
@Ploegskaar: Ja, ek weet, maar dit moet volgens die skolewet steeds goedgekeur word. En ek weet vir ‘n feit dat in die huidige ekonomiese sklimaat daar werklikwaar net nie soveel geld is nie. Maatskappye is besig om hul SRI en bemarkingsuitgawes skerp in te kort, m.a.w. minder geld is beskikbaar. Maar ek sal gaan uitvind en terugkom na jou toe. Wat ek wel weet is wat die koste van ‘n koshuis en skoolgeld by die skole in die groot sentra is. In bv. Pretoria beloop dit gemiddeld sowat R60 000 – uitgesluit skool- en sportklere asook skoolboeke. Ons moes die gelde bereken om ‘n gemiddelde opvoedingsinflasiekoers te bereken vir SA.
@Djou: Tuks se syfers is ten opsigte van Tuks uitsluitelik. Ek was ‘n Matie, ‘n Tukkie, ‘n Kovsie, en vir ‘n paar maande ‘n Puk, so ek is nogal redelik op hoogte met skole se vertonings . Ek weet redelik goed wat Maties se akademiese prentjie was in die 90’s, en dat 23 van die Universiteit se kanseliersmedaljes deur die jare aan een skool toegeken was, wat steeds ‘n rekord is. En ek onthou PG en HJS se vertonings op akademiese vlak op Maties as skitterend, en ook verskeie ander skole se oudskoliere, bekend en onbekend. En die Noordelike voorstede en Swartlandse skole s’n was skitterend, DF Malan, Tygerberg, Durbanville, Stellenberg ens. Om die waarheid te sê, ek kan nie onthou dat enige redelike bekende skool in die Wes-Kaap se akademie op Universiteitsvlak beter as die ander was nie. Met ander woorde, daardie seuns by Garsfontein sou ook hier kon regkom. Dis baie moeilik om te glo dat Garsfontein beter geleenthede bied as sommige ander skole naby Darling, daarom het ek reeds vir beet versoek om my e-pos adres te verskaf aan jou, want ek is net te nuuskierig.
@Djou: Jy sal verbaas wees ou maat en is duidelik nie op hoogte van sake en die aanbiedinge wat agter die skerms aangaan nie.
@Ploegskaar: Want hulle eet jul vleis.
En nee, nie net een nie. terloops, afgelope week was daar heelwat aanbiedinge uit die Kaap uit na die manne hierbo.
@Djou: Ai tog, skole het nie daai geld nie, bied net ‘n paar beurse, maar die geld kom van OB trusts wat parallel met die skool funksioneer, maatskappye en privaat persone, het jou al gese
@Tierklou: Weer ‘n oningeligte stelling. Garsies het geeneen van jul spelers genader nie. ‘n Gerug wat kwaadwillig versprei is. Doen bietjie moeite en vra jul skoolhoof. Hy is 100% ingelig en weet dit is onwaar.
@Djou: En dis dit? Laas wat ek getel het was daar een, kortstondig, het dit nie gemaak nie. Vleisfabriek gons, jy ken ons LSM, hoekom dink jy is daai Gapsies so fris en talentvol?
@Tierklou: Sien, dit is presies waarvan ek praat. Ek kan werklik nie glo julle glo die pakkie nie. Maar die spreekwoord lui “if a lie is told often enough, the ignorant will believe it”.
Dink net bietjie daaroor. Geen skool het daardie geld nie en geen skool se ouers sal toelaat dat hulle skoolgeld op die manier uitgegee word nie.
@Ploegskaar: Dankie tog die 3 wat hulle die jaar by ons o16’s probeer gaps het gaan nie. Hulle bly Tiere en in die Kaap.
@Ploeg: Sedert 6 April 1652 vermoed ek so 14 453 258, maar ek kan met so 10 tot 12 uit wees. Hoe gaan dit met die vleisfabriek?
@Deon Pitzer: Deon, kom ek noem dit want hulle gaan nie. Die “pakkie” wat aangebied word is baie aantrekliker vir die ouers as vir die kinders.
Ek verstaan dat ingesluit by die “pakkie” is vliegtuigkaartjies en verblyf in ‘n gastehuis vir die ouers om die seun se “tuiswedstryde” in die Noorde te gaan bywoon. So as daar 6 tuiswedstryde is gaan hulle 6 naweke Noorde to, word ingeboek by ‘n gastehuis, ens, ens.
So vir baie van die POC kinders se ouers is dit ‘n jackpot. Dis hoekom hulle instem.
As hulle in die Paarl bly en die kind gaan Paul Roos toe……….nie dieselfde excitement vir die ouers nie.
@Djou: Toe Stats, hoeveel was daar wat al Suid migreer het? Praat maar, ek luister.
@Deon Pitzer: Garsies is die top akademiese skool in Gauteng. Ek meen dit is rede genoeg. Maar hulle skep ook geleenthede vir hul leerders na skool, m.a.w. help met werk, universiteit ens. En volgens Tuks se jongste syfers is Garsies die skool wat die beste graadvoltooiingskoers het van alle skole.
Wat die graad 11 spelers betref, een van jou buurskole het hulle “gegaps” maar hulle is uiteindelik terug na waar hulle vandaan kom. Nou spot dieselfde buurskole dat Garsies gaps.
Wat Garsies betref, ken ek die verhaal van waarom hulle in die Wes-Kaap werf redelik goed. En glo my daar word heelwat leuens daaroor verkondig deur sommige persone op die webwerf.
Vra vir Beet om jou e-pos vir my te stuur, dan gee ek die hele verhaal aan jou.
@Rugbyman: In watter Laerskool was PJ toe hy geskuif het? Of Ryan en Carlu toe hulle genader is?
@Djou: Ek probeer eenvoudig vasstel wat dit is wat ‘n speler trek, en dan begin julle heel paniekerig vingers wys. Ek weet nie na wie jy verwys nie in die geval van die graad 11 spelers nie, en wat die omstandighede was nie. Ek probeer bloot vasstel hoe ‘n skool in Pretoria, op ‘n stadium met ses WK spelers in die span gespeel het, wat geen rugby of opvoedingsredes gehad het om te gaan nie. Daar moet dus ander redes wees. Ek probeer vasstel hoekom dit so geword het dat skole die kinders nader, en nie andersom nie. Watter voordeel bied Garsfontein aan die seun en sy ouers dat hulle bereid is om die seun op 13 jarige ouderdom meer as 1000 km na ‘n skool wat beslis nie pal op die rugby voorfront staan nie. Baie seuns rondom die Paarl en Stellenbosch en Kaapstad, kies hulle skole gegrond op die skool se reputasie. Sulke skole hoef nie na spelers te vry nie. Moontlik is daar niks vreemd hieraan nie, maar hoe meer ek vra hoe meer vingers word gewys, en hoe meer word beledig. So, hoe kan mens anders om te wonder wat weggesteek word.
@Deon Pitzer: @Tierklou: Wat noem julle ‘n Garsfontein- of Monnasspeler wat in graad 11 na ‘n Kaapse skool toe gaan. Ook gegaps, of het julle ‘n ander woord.
@BuiteBreek: Puik gestel. Miskien bied Garsfontein maar net ‘n beter opvoeding en rugbygeleentheid, op gemiddeld, as HJS en Gim. Of, miskien is dit die avontuur wat die seuns trek.
@Rugbyman:
Dalk is daar ‘n uitruilstudent program? Darling se rugbyspelers gaan na Garsfontein en Garsfontein se dramastudente gaan na Evita se Perron? 
@Rugbyman: Maw, ‘n seun moet deur die skool versoek word om by die skool aan te sluit, en nie andersom nie? Hoekom? Is die seun nie veronderstel om aansoek te doen by die skool nie? As hy nie julle aanbod aanvaar het nie, met sy pedigree, sou hy mos in die Paarl, om die draai van sy ouerhuis, ook aanvaar gewees het. Sou hy swakker af gewees het (dis nou wat sport en opvoeding betref)? Maw, daar is iets meer wat julle aan hom bied as wat ‘n skool in die Paarl sou? Wat sal dit wees? Hoekom sou sy ouers instem om hul 13 jarige seun weg te laat trek meer as 100o km van sy ouerhuis? Wat is in dit vir die seun? Hoekom Garsfontein bo die Paarl, met ‘n veel sterker, konstante rugbygeskiedenis. Hoekom? Noem my maar lagwekkend, ek sê nie jy het iets verkeerd gedoen nie, ek wil net weet hoekom. Of is die volle waarheid ‘n probleem?
@Deon Pitzer:@Tierklou: @BuiteBreek: Niemand het hom daar raakgesien nie en ons het… julle groot Kaapse skole moet bietjie leer scout… hoekom is dit ter sake waar hy in die laerskool was? Ons het hom nie by een van julle hoerskole gegaps nie…? As n seun vd kaap na grey toe gaan word geen woord gerep nie… as n seun van pretoria paul roos of booishaai toe gaan is dit fine… solank n bolandse seun net nie Noord gaan nie… dis strafbaar met die dood…
Ai ai… julle is lagwekkend… I rest my case!
@Tierklou: @BuiteBreek: Siende dat hy op laeskoolvlak reeds Cravenweek gespeel het, sou sy te sigbaar wees om misgekyk te word in die Wes-Kaap, en as hy gebly het, sou hy beslis nie minder geleenthede gekry het nie, tensy daar ander onbekende motiewe was vir sy skuif. Of hoe Rugbyman. Julle is nou ‘n trotse, sterk rugbyskool, maar wat sou dié seun na julle getrek het op daardie stadium van Garsfontein se geskiedenis? Darling is mos net ‘n katspoegie vanaf die Paarl, waar skole is wat ten opsigte van rugby seker nie ‘n swakker reputasie het, en minder geleenthede bied as Garsfontein nie. Nou wat dan was die groot trekpleister?
@Rugbyman@BuiteBreek: Rest my case…..’n Bolandse laaitie nou by Garsfontein beteken net een ding – hy is gegaps.
@Deon Pitzer: Ek sidder om te spekuleer, netnou raak Rugbyman kwaad vir my. Ek vermoed hulle het ‘n deeltitel, saam met al die ander Weskus en Wynland ouers by The Pillow and Spoon gastehuis oorkant die pad. Dis net ‘n vermoede…
@BuiteBreek: En sy ouers, waar is hulle?
@Rugbyman: Papier is gebore op Clanwilliam, laerskool op Darling en in 2010 vir Boland o/13 Cravenweek gespeel in Graaff Reinet. Ja, hy is van Gr 8 af in Pretoria…
@Tierklou: nee ou maat papier is al van gr.8 af in pretoria… jy nou weer net lus vir stront praat?
@Tierklou: @Rugbyman: Is Papier van die Wes-Kaap?
@Rugbyman: Waar het julle Papier gaan haal – Hugenote of Klein Nederburg?
@BOG: Nie onmin nie… ‘n fear of failure… mense wat te groot raak vir hulle skoene… en dan besluite neem wat ondeurdag is
@beet: Let me assure you that Papier’s service is crisp and his tactical kicking very good! He is also a tiger on deffence… But I will leave it to the SA schools selectors to decide….
@Andre T: Klaar geoefen. Ek cruise nou op ervaring. Onmin in Tshwane?
@Hanswors: @Deon Pitzer:
Lets no forget about Marco Jv Vuuren of Transvalia who is a current SA Schools player. He’s quite a big lad at close to 1.90m in height so brings very different attributes to the party from Papier and Jantjies.
Deon about Papier, the TV quality was bad so I could not really judge his pass and I don’t recall him box kicking either apart from one that got charged down near his own tryline. Where he did stand out was his electric pace. He gets to top gear in just a couple of strides so is extremely quick from a standing start. From the back of a slightly wheeled scrum he could kill an opponents defensive system as he showed against Menlo.
I’m not sure what the Bulls lineout and engine room will be like but they have dangerous players in the backline, suggesting that even if their pack is only half decent, they will be in the CW final on the Saturday. If WP has a fully fit Jaco Willemse and a decent 10, good money is on them to make that final as well. This will probably mean a Papier vs Jantjies showdown.
@BOG: Wat oefen jy?
@Hanswors: Jy moet hier maar versigtig wees met iets oor “Spur spiere”. Dit is n sensitiewe saak in Tshwane. Ek is behoorlik daaroor vermaan.@beet: I cannot see that we will see a situation of 6 players coming from one school, soon, but 3-4 is not impossible. @Andre T: Hoe se Gary Player? The more you practice the luckier you get
@beet: Perhaps i have missed something. What happened at the Youth Games in Gabarone?
@Hanswors: Agree. It will be a close call. Jantjies makes one hell of a big difference when he comes up via the squad system. I sincerely hope we stop applying the squad system. The difference between the first choice players and the second choice players is just too vast.
@Deon Pitzer, I have seen him playing 3 times this year, it will be a very special talent to keep him out of higher honours…. your 9 is not too shabby as well but if needed , pick both!
@Rooibul – gelukkig het ‘n westryd 2 helftes. Die Spur dieet van Helpies se swaar voorspelers (net ‘n grappie) het vir Kloof gehelp!
@Deon Pitzer: Ja wel jy kan in elk geval nie by hom uitkom nie. Iets soos …….you can’t get there unless you’ve been there before.
Hys n oud 32 Bataljon man wat nie in ‘society’ kan aanpas.
@Duppie: Dag se Duppie, Helpies het julle die eerste helfde lekker skrik gemaak.
@Andre T: Ek woon naweke en vakansies daar, en deur die week op Hermanus. So, ek reis nogal wyd oor die Overstrand Kaap Agulhas wêreld. Bbos is Bulls wêreld, genuine, al jare lank. Skipskop kan siviele mense ongelukkig tans net een maal per jaar per ‘n gereelde toer besoek.
@beet: I have been reading comments about Papier with interest, and many people praise him as SA’s no 1 at nr.9. He has loads of talent, but i have up to now not seen anything proving the one is better than the other.
I look forward to the PRG/GCB match. I am glad that the call-ups will not be as big an issue as previously. But first things first-HJS and Diocesan.
Optimism in Stellenbosch is high, but not expecting much more than the display of pride. However, the squad system causes much negativity among old boys.
@Duppie: wats fout met jou? Tik ene en stuur vir beet…
@Deon Pitzer: I spoke to Nelio of R15 and he did not think GCB would be badly disrupted by SA Schools call ups this year.
I’m not sure what the SA School optimism is like in Stellenbosch. H. Jantjies definitely a candidate.
In the past missing SA Schools players have been a factor (along with teachers slash refs apparently
)
@Babbelas: Net die 1 sal Saterdag kan speel. Die ander het harsingskuding. Moet nog so 2 – 3 weke wag. Die ouderling sal dus die ander stut wees.
Eldo gaan maar sukkel maar sal probeer ‘n game daarvan maak.
@Deon Pitzer: Ek ken mos daai wereld. Het mos so mal maatjie wat nou al so 9 jaar in afsondering daar op Skipskop bly.
@Andre T: Oom Manie Groenboontjie is die leadsinger. Hy het genuine êrens in die 50’s die wendrie gedruk teen Wovengat, en hy is steeds beroemd daarvoor. Die laaste rugby game op BBOS wat ek gekyk het was net voor of net na Kerfees 2007 omtrent. Dit was gespeel op ‘n vierkantige veld voor die Strandveld Boerevereniging se klubhuis. Die spanne is sommer albei tussen die manne in die kroeg saamgestel. Dit was, om die minste te sê, spesiaal. Gelukkig het ek fotos daarvan. ‘n Kersvader was ook êrens betrokke, en die witblits het gevloei. Great ervaring!
@Deon Pitzer: As julle nie eers ordentlike boereorkeste kan he nie wat nog van voetbal speel?
@BOG: Julle kan julleself gelukkg ag dat julle nie vanjaar ons manne hier in Baardscheerdersbosch speel nie.
@Duppie: I haven’t seen the Klofies game yet Dups. Hopefully the picture quality is better.
The Wildeklawer highlights package of Kloof vs Glenwood led me to believe it was one of the best games of Day 1. There again the picture quality was not great.
@BOG: Ja nee…….dit is julle lucky jaar
@kosie: Kosie, weet jy of die 2 groot stutte Saterdag gaan speel. Ons kort daai 123 en 130 kg!
Lyk my die ouetehuis, of is dit n organisasie vir bejaardes, is op n uitstappie langs die Hennopsrivier vanoggend, met hulle laptops en al. En as ek kyk na dit wat kwytgeraak word, dink ek dat hulle geborg word deur Solly Kramer met n paar 5 Ltr papsakke. As ek darem n vergelyking moet tref tussen die omstandighede in die Paarl en in Pretoria, waar dit n windstil perfekte dag was, dan is dit seker waar die vergelyking stop. Dit spreek boekdele vir beide spanne se balvaardighede, waar hulle onder uiters moeilike omstandighede baie goed gespeel het.In teenstelling—@Andre T: Undersold? En “class of the West Rand”? As daar ooit n oxymoron was, dan is dit een. Ja, GCB gaan beslis nie vir Garsfontein wen hierdie jaar nie. Ook nie vir Vrede, Put-sonder-water en vele ander nie. En herinner jou maatjie hierbo om homself vanoggend hier te verwelkom !
Waarom geen verslag van Waterkloof se oortuigende oorwinning teen Helpies nie. Of is Gapsfontein nou die toast vir die week.
@Tjoppa: I think Mr Keyter is a close 2nd choice just behind Mr de Beer.
Mr de Beer has that close edge as he was developed and groomed on the West Rand.
@Deon Pitzer: Weet nie of Mevrou die Hoof daar gaan belangstel in enige artikels of donker suit draende sonbril maer outjies a la Bloem nie.
@beet: Beet he was certainly in outstanding form but everybody knows my no1. Mr Keyter. Like in a previous post to RM is mentioned that the schools now have taken notice of Roets and will tighten their defence at 10 & 12. My man of the match surely must be Papier. He can turn any game on its head within seconds.
@Andre T: Miskien moet Marais Viljoen ‘n Maraistjieland artikel 21 Maatskappy oprig, soos Garsieland, bloot uit ‘n humanitêre oogpunt? Maraistjieland kan dan, addisioneel tot hulle humanitêre plig, ook bydra tot hulle rugbykrag?
@Rugbyman: RM ou Shirley is mos moederloos verlief op Francotjie. Toe hy Saterdag met daai bos blomme loop het sy al haar dankie se toespraak begin mymer.
Mis nie julle games nie. Se mos die Kombi vat al selfs pad Garsfontein toe.
Bly om te hoor jul het ‘n plan twee. Dink die manne sal Roets meer en meer beheer.
Sad day for Marais Viljoen. I think Mrs Headmaster should seriously start looking into that.
@beet: How good is Ruan de Beer hey?
You can see the West Rand class oozing out of him.
@beet: Did you remove one of Bog’s comments?
It’s better that way………..he has become way to rammetjie-uit-nek.
@Tjoppa: It seemed like Garsies game vs Menlo depended a lot on strong carriers and x-factor moments. Garsies individuals setting themselves apart on the field, whereas Menlo relied more on team plan to create their chances. Replace Papier with a regular scrummie and Menlo could have won that game.
I also saw that Le Roux Roets did not hit many rucks in the second half but he did have a tendency to occupy a lot of space off the side and manhandled anyone who dared to run his way.
Ruan Ackerman was outstanding but my fav player from that game was definitely the Menlo fullback Ruan de Beer.
The picture quality was very poor so those who attended would have appreciated the battle up front a lot more than us TV viewers who had to strain to see who was who there.
@beet: I agree that Grey kept the scoreboard ticking against Affies………so did Monnas, Gimmies, Klofies, Paarl Gim and to an extent, Centurion.
Haven’t been to Affies lately but I hope they have an electronic one when they play Garsies.
@Andre T: The weather conditions in Paarl did not help the cause of attractive rugby. Grey pretty much kept the scoreboard moving against Affies a few weeks back.
I think Noordvaal rugby is being undersold at present. Certainly very good competition exists in the region. The Tuks-Reeks semis and finals day should be a goldmine for any TV broadcaster yet it receives no coverage.
@Rugbyman: Dis nie heuning om die mond nie – dis REALITEIT! Verskonings van beserings ens gaan niemand help nie. Garsies het ook sy kwota beserings hierdie jaar gehad. Ons hoop om ons een stut Saterdag terug te hê anders is daar net 4 vorries van die oorspronklike span wat sal speel. Dit gaan maar moeilik wees. Eldo sien tog uit na die game en hoop om darem so bietjie aanskoulike rugby te speel. Ons het seker die kleinste slotte van enige Pta skool. As jy tyd het gaan kyk op You Tube en tik in Classic Clash Eldo 2014 as jy meer van die spanwil wees
Ek dink die Pretoria Stadsbeker op sy eie is nie hoogs waarskynlik, maar BESLIS die toughste skolerugby kompetisie in die land en heel moontlik in die wereld. En nou praat ek van 1ste spanne.
Ja ja die ander skooltjies met hul jarelange verbintenisse wat hulle interskole noem speel ook week in en week uit harde games maar niks kom by die fisiese intensiteit wat daar tans tussen Affies, Garsies, Kloof, Menlo, Centurion en Eldoraigne heers nie. Ek dink as ons Monnas en EG en miskien Kempton kon byvoeg en dan Nellies ook en in n Super 10 formaat home and away laat speel elke jaar sal dit ongelooflike rugby oplewer.
Hierbo in die Noorde verkies ons klipharde voorspeler kragmetings met n bietjie flair agter en niks mooier as 2 spanne wat mekaar met alles behalwe die ref aanvat.
Ja okay Grey speel konstruktiewe kliniese rugby maar alles behalwe aanskoulik. Daars nie n ‘wow’ oomblik in hul games nie. Saterdag teen HJS was die atmosfeer baie meer die fokuspunt as die game self. Dit was asof twee playstation goeroes teen mekaar PS gespeel het.
Nee wat die Pta Stadsbeker oorheers die rugbypuriste se goedkeuring en Supersport of iemand kan gerus maar elke naweek hul games vertoon. Die paneel beveel aan dat Garsies op die oomblik met meer as 10 punte beter is as enige ander span gevolg deur Grey met n paar ander wat mekaar op enige gegewe dag kan verslaan.
Ek kan nie sien dat hul vanjaar sal verloor tensy hewige beserings of n ref n rol sal speel.
@Tjoppa: dankie tjop… maar hoekom nou al ons kaarte speel…? Ons moet mos n paar verassingtjies oorhou vir later die jaar of hoe?
Moet se die seuns is op gespeel… hierdie dinsdag, saterdag, dinsdag, saterdag eis sy tol… ons kan eers teen woensdag liggies begin oefen…
Was jy saterdag daar?
@kosie: heuning om die mond smeer gaan nie werk nie kosie…
ons weet eldos het n gedugte span en ons sal julle nie onderskat nie… menlo het nou 3 beeld games gegly en moet nog net eldos en affies speel… beide is vir hulle moet wen games anders is hulle uit…
@Rugbyman: Die Beeld is baie tough hierdie jaar. Ek dink dit is nog nrt Menlo op hierdie stadium wat nognie ‘n game kon wen nie. Ek weet Eldo moet nog teen die Garsies, Kloof en Menlo speel. Dit bly tog interessant wat gaan gebeur. Die naweek gaan vir Eldo baie moeilik wees. Ek hoop net Eldo is darem in die game
@Rugbyman: Steur jou nie aan die gepeupel. Jy meneer is die coach van DIE beste skole 15tal in die land. Soos jy weet kyk ek baie skole rugby en dus kan ek ‘n redelike mening uitspreek. Die enigste ander span wat coaching aanbetref in julle klas is ‘n coach met die naam van Naas Rossouw se span. Punt.
Wat my wel bekommer, en ek neem jou stelling dat julle nie op jul beste was nie met ‘n knippie sout, is julle game plan is nou al bekend en ek dink hoe later in die seisoen gaan die ander spanne klaar 10 manne op die losskakel/senter kanaal plaas om Roets te keer. Sou graag wil sien dat hy bietjie ander kanale ook aanval en dalk die vryheid gegee word om op ander plekke op te duik. Dit, gee ek toe, gaan dalk jul game plan affekteer en dit is oor jul gameplan wat ek julle so hoog rate.Verstaan jy.
Miskien ook meer manne om van Franco se skouers af te hardloop, sal sy effektiwiteit 100% verhoog. Dit lyk of die mannetjie besig is om spur dieet te volg. En is werklik ‘n bekommernis. Maar se maar vir hom die oom laaik hom nog baie. Moet net die nonsies van rose en vry los en op die game konsentreer.
Maar doe so voort ou maat. Niemand vra meer watter game kyk ons Saterdae nie. Die kombikie vat sommer die pad vanself.
Laastens het daai tortelduif al sy R100 betaal.
@BOG: prozac? Nee wat… dis darem al ons 3de jaar in n ry wat ons n bo-gemiddelde span in die veld stoot… soos ek ook gese het: dis n sinnelose debat wat nerens heengaan nie want ons gaan ongelukkig nie teen mekaar speel nie. Dit sou n great game gewees het…
Ek sonder jou nie uit nie, jy kry dit sommer op jou eie reg
Thank you for providing the stats to Ian Deon. Reading his posts made me wonder whether he was in fact at the game. The referee that officiated at under 16 game has no connection with Paarl Gym. I watched the game and criticism from a few bishops parents surprised me. The problem is that it is always an easy solution to blame the referee. My concern on the day was that Bishops failed to win a single game. That is unacceptable for a school with such a proud rugby tradition. I hope Mike Baley will put the structures in place to arrest this trend. We all want Bishops to compete with the strongest teams in SA.
@Rugbyman: Ek weet nou regtig nie waarom jy my uitsonder vir n aanvalletjie nie? Ek was maar een van n paar wie op Woltrui se gebruiklike stront gereageer het. Ek het bloot kommentaar gelewer op dit wat ek visueel waargeneem het. En dit het ek in die algemeen gedoen sonder om individue uit te sonder. Spekulasie oor hoe Garsfontein teen GCB sou vaar, is n identiese herhaling van dit wat gebeur het met Waterkloof, so twee seisoene gelede, totdat die argument beslis was by WK. Soos ek bo aangedui het, sal Garsies sekerlik n uitnodiging kry om by WK te gaan speel, AS hulle n hoe standaard VOLHOU vir n paar jaar.En dit is die uitdaging. Daar is vele skole wat nou en dan n sterk span het, maar veel minder wat nou en dan n swak span het. Ek dink dit is maar wat die “top” spanne onderskei van die ander. So, ontspan. Ek wil nou nie die oorsaak wees dat jy die week afskop met n handvol Prozak pille nie
@Woltrui
Take ure meat and eat !! :0)
Westville is a massive all round power house school to reckon with with literally every sport so jog on……………..
Facts are facts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DOH !
@kosie: haai kosie, dankie… dit was rerig baie fisies… menlo was rug teen die muur en het met als gekom wat hulle het. Menlo se game teen eldoraigne sal vir hulle n MOET wen wees, anders is hulle uit die Beeld resies…
@Ian: Visit http://www.webrugby.co.za. (sponsored by Cobitech) It is a very useful site. It provides live scoring of certain SBR games. In addition, scores are accompanied by quite scientifically determined and valuable statistics of each game covered. The method is/was explained on the site. This site often proves how subjective viewers can be. (including me!!!!, in fact mostly me) According to the statistics regarding the PG vs Bishops game, the site provides the following detail : 64% of the game took place in the Bishops half of the field, 37% in the Bishops 25. Only 12% of the game took place in the PG 25?? 57% of the first half possession, and 49% of the second half possession belonged to PG. Penalties went 9-8 for PG. Even these guys make errors, granted, but the stats they provide are not even closely reconcilable to or consistent with your stats and impression of the game. In the light of these inconsistencies, I would rather take your summary of the under 16 game and the referee with a pinch of salt. Subjective analysis leads to paralysis, and with respect, I believe your brain was paralysed when things did not turn out the way you expected. For what it may be worth, I rooted for Bishops, checked the score continuously on webrugby, and was surprised by the outcome. Various of my pre-match posts confirm this.
Any the good u18 SBR fullbacks out there must try to think back and ID which coach it was that inspired them to play fullback and then scratch that coach’s name off the Christmas card list.
Geez what bad year to be a good fullback in. Everywhere you look there’s a good no.15, The latest one I’ve seen is from Menlopark : Ruan de Beer
So we have
Gerard Pieterse (Bishops) still competing with a couple of other candidates from Stellenberg and Bellville for WP CW
Corne de Klerk (Outeniqua)
Keanu Vers (Grey PE)
Henry Immelman (Grey Bloem) even Lourens Steenkamp, a flyhalf by preference is a good fullback and will probably be at CW in this possie
Possibility of Courtney Winnaar (Dale) going to CW as a 15 with his teammate Justerino Davids doing a good job in that role for the Tickbirds
Morne Joubert (Glenwood)
Eduan Keyter (Affies)
Ruan de Beer (Menlo)
Martin van Wyk (EG)
@Ian: That was great stuff Ian. I really enjoyed reading that.
Do you mind if I turn it into a post on its own?
Evening All,
Thanks for the various comments.
Perhaps my expectations are too high for a high school ref.
I do not want to create a scenario which may be considered a vendetta, by contacting parents etc.
I also do not want to use the site to air dirty laundry, I just felt compelled to share this experience,as it really got my goat that this standard of refereeing is still happening. I do understand that referees are human, however, their are mistakes and there are mistakes.
I am sure if there were any other parents that watched this game, they will know what I am referring to. If these Stellenbosch academy referees are assessed each Saturday, then there is the hope that this particular referee will be taken to task and will undergo corrective training before throwing him into a big match again.
On a more positive note, I did stay for the main event, the 1s tXV game between Paarl Gym and Bishops.
Well, this one was ref’d by Jonathan Kaplan and he was on top of his game as per usual.
This was nothing short of a brilliant defensive display from the home team!
For the best part of 65% of this game, they were pegged down in their own 25 and defended like I have not seen a school rugby do before.
Commitment, passion, attitude,teamwork were all on display.
I honestly thought that after the first 30minutes, it was just a matter of time before Bishops broke through and then envisaged that the flood gates would open.
Nope, this Paarl team showed resilience beyond their years. Eventually their defensive efforts forced a handling error, from the elegantly sleek Bishops back line and they scored against the run of play after collecting the ball in their own 25.
Gerard Pieterse(I think that’s his name), the Bishops fullback, is definitely one for the future and has a step that Cheslyn Kolbe would be proud of.
However, the superior possession this Bishops team enjoyed was not turned into points and they walked away from 10 penalty kicks within 35m. Tap and go as usual!
The timeless ethos of ‘running rugby’ whilst great to watch, cost the Bishops team this result and it is not the first time.
This year they possess arguably one of the top back lines in W/Cape school’s rugby, but surely a game against the Paarl top dogs must be seen in the same light at a”test match” You take the points that are on offer.
If this was a Super 15 game, Nick Mallet & Naas Botha would have had a lot to say about wasted opportunities. They stripped the Paarl team for pace and handling excellence for most of the game, but Gym’s cover defense held. The penalty count increased, they were awarded a penalty try and a had Paarl Gym having one in the sin bin for continuous infringements, yet they still continued using the same strategy of tap and go and forgot to take the 3 points. Even against 14 men they did not break the defence.
Take nothing away from Paarl Gym, a great team, but they know they chased shadows for much of the game when the Bishops back line was unleashed.
However, when the infringements led to penalties, Bishops did not take them!!
The result on paper is flattering for Paarl Gym. Take nothing away, they played great rugby in the traditional way and they got the result,thereby keeping their 100% record in place.
Bishops need to decide if they want to compete properly at this level? It is frustrating watching them automatically put themselves at a disadvantage by continuously sticking to the”no kicking ethos”, it is then not a fair comparison of the results…..but it is their choice??
The one team will always play rugby as it should be played, whilst the other team takes a ‘touch rugby’ approach and only kicks when it is a conversion?
A great day, great rugby, but I left the ground asking myself questions as to whether it is the type of rugby you play that is important or if it is about getting the result?
@Rugbyman: Jammer ek wens jou nou eers geluk met die wen. Die lewe het ongelukkig ook ander prioriteite! Het die game opgeneem en gistermiddag gekyk. Moet julle gelukwens met jul skepende spel. Dit tesame met ‘n pak vorries wat sy man kan staan teen enige iemand verseker vir Garsies genoeg bal om te baljaar. Ek dink ook nie daar is ‘n span in Pta wat julle ssl klop nie en bittermin, indien enige, in SA.
Very proud of Stellenberg with their 27-13 win over SACS. Wonder how many scholarships SACS will give to our lowly premier B players in order to be competitive.
Was quite suprised to see some of the Grey 1st team hanging out in Grand West casino till past midnight last night.
@star: KES must have had an “off day” on the hockey field
@BoishaaiPa: Miskien die J&B van gister avond maar definitief nie nagmaal wyn nie 
@Deon Pitzer: Ek is bly jy reken HJS sal Garsies 4 uit 5 keer wen. Ek verskil in die opsig van jou Deon.
Ek reken Garsies sal Grey tans maklik wen. Sonder veel moeite. 8)
@BOG: ek dink nie bere is enigsins sarkasties nie… ons mense hierbo het baie respek vir grey
@Woltrui: @BOG: Menere hierdie is rerig n debat/argument wat geen positiewe einde gaan he nie…
Eerstens dink ek grey het n baie toughe program… so wollies ek stem nie heeltemal saam met jou nie…
Tweedens, BOG, ons was nie gister op ons beste nie… ons sal die eerstes wees om dit te erken! Maar hats off to menlo, hulle het hulle beste game gebring en dit was baie fisies, iets wat jy nie op die tv mooi kon sien nie…
Dan wil ek ook net vir jou se BOG, dat jou storietjies van onfiksheid en stront praat van spiere in die Spur is sommer net dit – stront praat! Wat jy nie weet nie is dat al ons seuns die laaste 2 weke weens blou bul proewe saterdae en dinsdae speel… hulle lywe is seer en ten spyte daarvan gee hulle steeds hule beste vir die skool! Nou wil jy kom hanna-hanna en seuns kritiseer? Sies man!
Menlo se manne sal vir jou se dat hulle als in hierdie game ingesit het en dat hulle op die dag deur n beter span geklop is… ek dink nie jy kan enigsins grey se game teen menlo met ons game van gister vergelyk nie! Dis n local derby waarin al2 spanne als fisies insit! Verbreed asb jou verwysingsraamwerk want jy het net Grey in jou kop
Dis jammer dat ons nie teen mekaar speel nie… so niemand sal ooit weet wat sou gebeur het nie! Wat wel vir ons vleiend is, is dat neutrale mense ons in dieselfde asem as grey noem! Iets wat niemand ooit sou geraai het 4 jaar terug nie!
Ten slotte: Grey is die enigste onoorwonne span in die land, so hulle verdien hulle status as no.1
@Bere73: Dan het hulle seker maar gister n “af” dag beleef- van dit wat ek op TV gesien het. Lees gerus my kommentaar aan skippie hierbo. Maar ek kry die indruk dat jou laaste sin drup van sarkasme
@Boats: Soos ek verder boontoe gese het, is daar elke jaar maar spekulasie oor hoe die of daardie span teen GCB sou gevaar het. Die harde realiteit is dat Grey nie teen almal kan speel nie. Behalwe vir n baie strawwe program, teen die sg. top spanne in SA, moet jy maar ook in gedagte hou dat , agv hulle reputasie, benader elke span wat teen hulle te staan kom, dit amper soos n oorlog (En asseblief, ek bedoel dit nou nie in n arrogante manier nie) Dit is n belangrike realiteit wat dikwels uit die oog verloor word. Hulle(opposisie) is hoogs gemotiveerd en berei hulleself in meer as een opsig voor vir die kragmeting. Dit verklaar waarom n span wat miskien sukkel in n bepaalde seisoen, wanneer hulle teen Grey te staan kom, dan lig hulle hul spepyl tot n ander vlak. Maar as Garsfontein volhou hom hoe gehalte rugby op te lewer, sal hulle sekerlik in n paar jaar se tyd n uitnodiging ontvang om op WK te speel en dan is n wedstryd teen GCB seker nie uitgesluit nie.
@Boats: Ek stem saam met jou dat Garsies weg raak in elke game en dat hulle verseker die mooiste rugby speel die jaar! En die game wat ek gister van Grey gesien het was hulle maar op par met die res van die top 10 skole! En as jy n afdag gehad het en nogsteeds n top skool wen in Pta,,,wat Paarl gim gewen het ! En Paarl gim wat gelyk op gespeel het teen Grey!!! Dink ek Garsies is beslis in die selfde klas as die magtige grey!!!
@Deon Pitzer:
You could at least give me the right answer. I had to compromise 
@BOG: Ek stem saam jou dat Grey die tougher program het as dit vergelyk word met Garsfontein. Ek is self spyt dat die 2 nie mekaar gaan speel. Ons gaan soos laasjaar met Affies en Paarl Gim bly wonder wat sou gebeur het. Maar ou BOG ek het die span laas week teen Kloof gesien ,en as daai mannetjies aangeskakel is ,dink ek ook hul is beste span vanjaar. Probleem is elke game is daar so 20 minute wat hul wegraak en dis dalk net daar waar Grey hul sou straf. Maar of hul nou die beste in die land is ,hul speel die mooiste rugby vanjaar na my mening.
@beet: Punt vs Brandwacht game. 66+41 points = ???? Kids also read this blog you know, you may confuse them.
@PRondersteuner: Ek vermoed so.
Die volledige uitslae soos op die Affie webblad :
Affies Rugby Uitslae 24 Mei 2014
CENTURION :
AHS O/14A wen 88-0 vs Centurion O/14A
AHS O/14D wen 80-0 vs Centurion O/14B
AHS O/15A wen 51-0 vs Centurion O/15A
AHS O/15D wen 68-0 vs Centurion O/15B
AHS O/16A wen 79-0 vs Centurion O/16A
AHS O/16D wen 60-0 vs Centurion O/16B
AHS 6des wen 48-8 vs Centurion 4des
AHS 4des wen 64-5 vs Centurion 3des
AHS 3des wen 47-9 vs Centurion 2des
AHS Witbulle wen 21-20 vs Centurion 1stes
Gespeel : 10
Gewen : 10
Verloor : 0
Punte vir : 606
Punte teen : 42
Gemiddelde telling : 61-4
ZWARTKOP :
AHS O/14F wen 37-8 vs Zwartkop O/14C
AHS O/15F wen 31-14 vs Zwartkop O/15C
AHS O/16E wen 48-5 vs Zwartkop O/16C
Gespeel : 3
Gewen : 3
Verloor : 0
Punte vir : 116
Punte teen : 27
Gemiddelde telling : 39-9
PRETORIA BOYS HIGH :
AHS O/14E wen 84-0 vs PBHS O/14C
AHS O/14G wen 27-0 vs PBHS O/14F
AHS O/15E wen 36-0 vs PBHS O/15C
AHS O/15G verloor 8-24 vs PBHS O/15F
AHS O/16C wen 61-0 vs PBHS O/16C
AHS O/16F wen 12-5 vs PBHS O/16E
AHS 7des wen 10-5 vs PBHS 5des
AHS 5des wen 46-0 vs PBHS 4des
Gespeel : 8
Gewen : 7
Verloor : 1
Punte vir : 284
Punte teen : 34
Gemiddelde telling : 36-4
ST ALBAN’S COLLEGE
AHS 9des wen 32-0 vs SAC 5des
AHS 8stes verloor 5-14 vs SAC 4des
Gespeel : 2
Gewen : 1
Verloor : 0
Punte vir : 37
Punte teen : 14
Gemiddelde telling : 19-7
TOTAAL
Gespeel : 23
Gewen : 21
Verloor : 2
Punte vir : 1043
Punte teen : 117
Gemiddelde telling : 45-5
@EC Guy: No, but I did get a detailed match report….Congrats and looking forward to the return match next year.
Ploegie:Was jy in PE vir die Framesby Landbou game?
@Woltrui: Daar is reeds n paar reaksies op jou misplaasde kommentaar, en dus nie veel wat ek kan byvoeg nie. Ek wag nog natuurlik vir die gewone stelling, jaar na jaar, dat Grey hierdie of daardie span “vermy” het. As jy jou oe sou gebruik, sal jy merk dat GCB waarskynlik een vd strafste programme het, week na week. Ek is normaalweg huiwerig om skoolspanne te kritiseer, maar die span wat ek teen Menlo gesien het gister, is beslis nie in dieselfde klas as GCB nie. “Groot” beteken soms bagasie of oorgewig en dit is beslis nie fiks en noodwendig krag nie. Die “spiere” wat in die Spur verkry word, werk net die eerste 15 minute. En toe Menlo teen GCB gespeel het, het hulle strate beter gespeel as gister, maar steeds was die telling 68-15?
@Ian: Maroon jersey and mustard collar makes him a Stellenbosch Referees Aacademy Ref, a group of refs under the guidance of ex CC ref Marius Franken, that tirelessly travel to various match days across the peninsula every weekend to improve the numbers and standard of our referees. These guys are definitely not biased or tied to any schools and I have seen them handle matches from Landbou to the Wynberg Fest and the Tiere Junior Fest, to better themselves and maybe make a career of refereeing. There is also an adjudicator at all their games that grade and discuss areas of strength and weakness with them, mostly after the game but sometimes even during the halftime break. They do make mistakes, as they are learning on the job, but to be clear, the SRA guys are not biased.
@Woltrui: Die laaste wat ek gesien het is dat Grey al die skole in die huidige top10 (behalwe Garsfontein) vanjaar speel of reeds gespeel het. Sowel as ‘n hele paar van posisie 10-20. Met geen disrespek twyfel ek of Garsfontein dieselfde kan se. Boonop het Garsfontein vanjaar al verloor ook… Grey bly die enigste onoorwonne span van die huidige top20 spanne in die (vermod ek).
@Ian: Hi Ian. I had such high hopes after reading the opening few sentences. I thought we’d get to read about how great this u16A game was.
Judging by your account of what happened, I from all the way in KZN offer the similar advice I did to a blogger who brought up over-aged players in KZN.
1. Make sure that all the (internal) refs at your own school are up to scratch. There’s no point complaining when decisions go against you away from home if visitors to your own school are exposed to similar treatment. So first thing to do is get your own house in order.
2. Get in touch with Bishops parents who watched the game and share your feelings on what transpired. Agree to form a coalition. In a school system a group of people asking for a common thing is far more powerful and successful than a set of parents on their own. When parents say to much at a school, its often deemed as interfering and in some cases results in a son being dropped from a team.
3. The new coalition must approach the powers that be at Bishops (not Gim), express it’s grievances and ask for the matter to be dealt with and ask for feedback on what has been done.
If enough people voice there disapproval and enough schools are forced into action because of it, the chances of being successful are far greater. Gim or the WP reffing body might not take much notice of one complaint from one school but if they receive numerous complaints from different schools it is bound to influence their decision-making process a lot more.
Morning All,
I was at the Paarl Gym vs. Bishops game yesterday.
WOW! A great atmosphere at a great school, one with so much tradition, so many great ex-players present, so much anticipation from the crowd.
Prior to the BIG game, I watched the u16A game, which was a thriller. The massive Paarl Gym pack against a very slick Bishops back line. The Paarl team edged it out 13-5 in the end and the Bishops boys can only be congratulated for a sound effort and great composure. Paarl Gym is a good side that you should have beaten yesterday.
However, the only person who took the center stage yesterday was the referee.
It was the very same referee that sent off a parent, an ex-Springbok ,from the same school field a few years back. Yes Sirree!…he was again in charge of both the U16B and the U16A fixtures.
After 10 minutes into the U16A game, the penalty count was 9-1 to Paarl Gym.
Despite calls for consistency from the many by then already irritated Bishops supporters, this martyr was again showing off on a stage where he was clearly out of his depth. Numbers in the lineouts were just ignored. Countless off-sides at the ruck and hands in the scrum, were blind sided by our hero!
He did however, save his best for last. Right in front of his eyes, as well as those of the main section of both visiting and home supporters, a Paarl Gym forward threw a punch which connected the chin of a Bishops forward who was completely oblivious.
Our hero quickly sprung into action….he screeched on his whistle and reached for his pocket, yellow carding the Bishops lad and then yellow carding the Paarl Gym forward!?? HELLOOOO… A punch is a straight red card in any rugby union law book! Why sin bin anyone in the Bishops team?
It was at this point that sanity and composure gave up the ghost and he deservedly ‘copped’ it from the traveling supporters, some more than others.
The final penalty count was 47-15 in favor of the home side.
To readers of this, it might sound like a campfire story or an excerpt from the diary of a sour Bishops supporter…I assure you it is neither and this referee does exist!
Is he a member of the WP Referees association? I doubt it, as he was not wearing any jersey that might link affiliation. He was wearing a maroon jersey with a mustard collar! I sincerely hope that he is not an employee of Paarl Gym!?
For if he is, then the refereeing “act” witnessed yesterday, was nothing more than that…just an “act “ and another word with a far deeper allegation immediately enters the fray! Paarl Gym needs to urgently distance themselves from this individual.
How is it possible that a premier league fixture between two of South Africa’s finest rugby schools can be marred by such a shocking display?
Who decides who will ref what game? Rugby and Paarl Gym were the losers yesterday, as a great game was played between two magical teams (the future 1st XV’s of 2016) and it was overshadowed by a refereeing disgrace.
This referee stooped so low, that when challenged by some supporters just after the match had ended, as to the how and why, he made some of his decisions, his only retort was some utterances in Cape Spanish and then to throw the match ball at a Bishops parent!
The WP Rugby Referees association must look into this and it is imperative that this referee impostor is not allowed to officiate until he has been comprehensively reassessed, and then again!
Officiating a game of touch rugby during the lunchtime break at a Bakers mini cricket festival for U8’s, would prove challenging for this individual!
You had to be there to witness this howling display…
Back shortly for the autopsy on the Paarl Gym vs. Bishops match….where a timeless philosophy came back to haunt the Dioscean’s
@Oakdale supporter: Ek was ook baie bly om te sien Oakdale het gewen. My pa en broer was daar op skool en ek het ‘n sagte plekkie vir daai skool.
@Deon Pitzer: Was dit nie dieselfde ref wat Grey PE geblaas het nie?
@Woltrui: Jammer Woltrui, maar jy het beslis nog nie na GCB se résumé vir 2014 gekyk met jou brille aan nie. Hulle het , met al die reisery in ag geneem, seker onder dubbel die druk gespeel in vergelyking met Garsfontein. Ek het Garsies en HJS in aksie gesien, weliswaar net een maal “live” in 2014. Ek dink as HJS en Garsies vyf games teen mekaar speel, sal HJS vier wen, en die vyfde een net net verloor.
@Woltrui: Ek dink jy het te veel nagmaalwyn gehad…Waar in die wereld het jy gesien dat Grey n makliker seisoen as Garsies het?..Grey speel al die top spanne!…En sover ek weet het Garsies ook al verloor die seisoen…Dis n ander ballgame as jy week vir week teen topskole speel…Daar is nie kans vir ontspan nie!
@jmh, no need to apologize , we all tend to be biased in favor of our team..Bishops have a very talented team, it is going to be interesting to see if they learn from yesterday…they had a very similar experience against Glenwood…the Wynberg game is crucial for their season…
How did EG Jansen put 96 points against a 1st team? How do u as a 1st team concede 96 points in a game?
@ Woltrui- the souties( in the last outpost) are good at many things
Did Affies not lose all their A team hockey matches against KES losing the Ist team 4-1. To get further perspective KES lost all their A team games against Westville with the 1st team losing 8-1. 
Just a remark on the Super 15. Imho the Charkies won this competition this weekend. Deservedly so. The game against the Crusaders showed that the Charkies is a champion team and congrats to you’s souties in the last oupost. Enjoy.
The Bulls can be proud of their effort in 2014 with a lot of positives coming through. The performances of the following players bores well for the 2014 CC and 2015 Super whatever:
-Handre Pollard(I am so excited by this youngsters ability)
-Small Smith
-The front rankers Werner, Dean, Marcel and Morne Mallet. The new scrum laws seam to suit us to a T.
-Willemse at lock.
-Jaques du Plessis at 7
One area of worry. No 5 lock in Victors place. Janse van Rensburg currently playing for the U/20 would be my go to man.
@BoishaaiPa: excuse me for saying some of the things I said yesterday. In the end Paarl Gym were deserved winners. In the first half bishops played well and were unlucky at times. However as the game progressed into the second half paarl gym got stronger and stronger. What bishops lacked yesterday was variation in their play, and started becoming too predictable. Again well done to Paarl Gym. Hopefully we can pick ourselves up against Wynberg next weekend!
Woltrui. I must say Affies dominated the second half with possesion.hats off to Affies who pulled this one through. Was a close one.
Schoolboy rugby rankings aside. The best schoolboy rugby side in the country currently is Garsfontein, by a country mile. There is not a school who will come to with in 15 points of Garsies the way they are playing. With all respect to Grey Bloem. Garsies will beat them comfortably. Garsies pack is streets ahead of Grey Bloem and their backline is also much more inventive and better than Grey Bloem. I suspect the reason Grey Bloem will end up at number 1 this year is because of the fact that they have a much easier fixture list than Garsfontein.
@jakes: Hi Jakes. The Woeries pack is not small. They got a couple of big boys and I think they also got a couple of U/19’s back after the Tuks reeks. The no 5 is a beast. I do agree with you on the line-outs. Affies’s Achilles heal this year. Can’t seem to get it right. On the whole Affies deserved the win. Affies loosies were immense and was the difference on the day. Affies played maybe 65% of the game in Woeries half. They should have taken the game away from Woeries with about 3 minutes left in the game when Affies missed a sitter of a penalty. The referee almost did have a big influence on the game when the touch judge made him attend of a high dangerous tackle by Woeries. He chose to ignore the touch judge and gave a penalty against Affies for an infringement at the ruck. Where Affies had the momentum this decision gave Woeries the opportunity to attack and score a try just before half time. Woeries can still surprise a couple of schools this year. They are picking up steam. For Affies Jan Van der Merwe brought a lot to the backline attacking play. My man of the match will go to the Affies no 7 Rohan Roelofse.
@bhkgpa: I think Glenwood did the same to them, once they are matched up front they run out of ideas and have no structure.
@jmh0101: Sound like wife’s chihuahua trying to make patla patla with my rottie. No penetration at all.
@jmh0101: bishops never looked like winning as they don’t know how to play a structured game. Against the top teams you cannot run and hope to score tries, some structure is needed. With the size of players that bishops have, one expect much more. With the wind bishops never kicked, against the wind they started kicking! Reason for this was that Gim tackled brilliantly and Bishops drifted too much using the width. On the day Gim showed why they are a very good team and well coached into a structure that will make it very difficult for most teams to win against them. Well played Paarl Gym
Glo nie dit was Garsies se beste vertoning van die seisoen maar n mens is ook maar net so goed soos jou opponent jou toelaat.
Dink nie Papier het sy gelyke vanjaar op 9 nie.
Menlo se oud Monna op 15 ook kookwater. Kan nie sien dat iemand hom uit CW span kan hou.
@McCulleys Workshop: haha! No the filtering process is happening now, top 10 becoming more settled.
@Grasshopper: in response to boishaaiPa’s response to @jmh0101 bleating on about Bishops being the better side blah blah blah – I thought jmh0101 could have been you in drag?
@McCulleys Workshop: huh? Referring to what?
Wat ‘n dag op die plaas!!! In ‘n wipplank game wen Oakdale vir Outeniqua 23-22. Oakdale domineer met die uitsondering van onder 15 al die ouderdomsgroepe. Well done, Bulle!!
@BoishaaiPa: I reckon it’s Grasshopper in disguise, having decided to take on the support of a local team.
@Deon Pitzer: @phat55: Ek het ook gaan kyk. By tye was dit maar teleurstellend, maar soms was dit werklik indrukwekkend. As die Nico na wie julle verwys daardie- nr. 13 senter op die dag was? , wel hy het vir baie van die opwinding gesorg. Hy kan dit nog ver bring. Ek sien uit na die Bishops game, met ‘n volsterkte agterlyn teen hulle agterlyn! Die ref, ai ai ai. Ek verkies om nooit oor skeidsregters te kla nie, maar genade? Ek het enige oomblik verwag dat hy die game gaan stop, na versteekte kameras wys, en sê hy is eintlik Leon Schuster, en dat die hele game en sy beslissings deel van ‘n nuwe Schuster film was. Hy het my herhinner aan die GreyPE ref!
@jmh0101: @Balikibaba: @gimmie: Must say I am very surprised by the scoreline, and more so by the http://www.webrugby.co.za stats- if remember correctly, something like 30% of the game was played in the Diocesan 25! @jakes: Ek he gedink aan jou toe ek dié telling sien. Inerdaad indrukwekkend.
@BOG: Geluk met GCB se wen. Wat sê jy van HJS se tweedes? Baie indrukwekkend!
@BoishaaiPa: Well, the Cheetahs dominated the Stormers and was by far the better side on the day, but unfortunately, narrowly lost 0-33
@jmh0101: Sorry and excuse me for asking..maybe I dont know anything about SBR rugby…but how in this world is a 34-12 score to Gim anything else but the better team that won on the day?…Your comment..”Bishops dominated the game in my opinion “…??? With that score?…5 tries to 2?..you sure your name is not Dave Mallet?..another comment..”In my opinion Bishops were the better side”…again I ask you..have you watched any rugby before today?…34-12..How on earth did you get to that conclusion?..
@phat55: With Venter and Galow at centre, Nico will have to wait. He’s doing very well on the wing though.
Affies 21 Centurion 20 . Saw this match today. A much smaller Centurion pack gave Affies a very hard time in the lineouts and especially the scrums. I guess the flyhalf of Centurion can kick himself for messing up a penalty kick right in front of the post in the first half. Instead of waiting patiently to set the ball he attended a drop kick and missed. A very poor decision. And in the last minute , with Centurion’s backline on the attack and a overlap the center dropped the ball. That could have made the difference. But hats off to Centurion. I must say I was not impressed with the referee. Some very funny decisions, he killed the game with not playing advantage at all and a mass amount of penalties which left the players wondering.
EG Jansen 96 Marais Viljoen 16. Wonder what happened to Marais Viljoen’s rugby. I see some massive scores in the next few weeks for EG Jansen in the Falcons region of the macro schools BEeld competition.
@PRondersteuner: so can we settle on shockingly clueless?
I’d like to see Nico more at centre, but I guess we’ll have to wait until next year for that.
@phat55: The PR was very loose in the first half. Almost as if they expected to just run riot. They also played into a very strong wind. A lot better in 2nd half, although Bosch stayed in the game with some very good rugby. The ref was not shocking, he was clueless. Apparently he was removed from the panel, but then brought back. Nico played centre today.
So KZN take the Grogper! Awesome stuff……back to where it belongs :-)
@Tierklou: ontspan net gegrap oor De Kuilen, PRG het 31 -21 gewen, met 4 van ons agterlyn spelers afwesig, al ons spanne het op die dag gewen, die meeste met monster wenne, net sois verlede jaar, dieselfde het ook laas week gebeur met Wynberg, 2 jaar in n ry het ons nie n game op die dag verloor nie
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Sometimes its just your day.
@jmh0101: hardluck to your team, hope they turn it on against Wynberg.I wasnt at the PRG game unfortunately, but from what I was told by a few who were there is that our boys might have lacked some intensity in the 1st half & were actually down 7-14 at halftime! Players from the bench at the start of the 2nd half made a nice impact & eventually Nico the wing ended with a hatrick. Many also said the ref was shocking at times, which also kept Bosch in the game I guess.Im sure PRG will welcome their 7s players back as well.next week for SACS…….
@Gungets Tuft:
The schools respective results against Hilton suggested the score would be otherwise, but well done to School, they must have played their socks out to win.
@gimmie: Okay yes pardon me for some of the things I said which were untrue. Paarl Gym took their opportunities and were the better side on the day.. I think Bishops started off the game quite well but as you said were not really able to penetrate Gym.. Bishops distribution was good but there was not a lot of variation in their game, which made them quite predictable. Hopefully we can rectify these when we come up against Wynberg next week.
Diamantveld 52 Upington HS 26 (Eight tries to two)
DHS 11 – Northwood 6. Very surprising result for me.
Bellville HS vs Strand HS, in Bellville:
U19a won 35-15
U16a lost 7-19
U15a won 7-5
U14a drew 14-14
Other scores:
Stellenberg 27 SACS 13
Tygerberg 33 De Kuilen 14
Durbanville 30 Brackenfell 5
Boland Landbou vs Framesby, in PE:
U19a lost 16-22
U16a won 27-11
U15a won 26-5
U14a lost 7-13
I was also at the Gym vs Bishops game…gym played against a strong wind in the first half with 14 men for 10 min…still turned 14- 7 up. gym scored 5 tries against 2…after 25 min it was clear that Bishops could not break down the Gym defense..Bishops play expansively but far too deep…very easy to defend against..also Bishops defense is weak…Bishops will trash poor sides but lose against all the stronger sides..to say Bishops was the better side is one of the silliest comments I have heard for a while..50percent of rugby Is played without the ball…that 50 percent bishops do not do well…
@phat55: Phat there are a few things that must be said. Well done to Gym on coming back in the end. I think Bishops towards the end turned off – I think possibly the ‘N1’ fever caught up with them towards the final stages of the game! Bishops dominated the game in my opinion – just the decision making let us down. In my opinion Bishops were the better side, but then again when Gym scored their first try which must be said was quite opportunistic, that was the beginning of the ‘off period’ for a little bit. All in All, I think Bishops gave it away, but well done to Gym. I hope the boys can come back with a victory against Wynberg next week. How did PRG do today?
@Westers
Well done Westville – did you see the game? how did they play?
Westville 34 KES 23. FT
Eldoraigne 33 – 8 Zwartkop Full time. Zwarries defended manfully. At least 7 tries were botched by Eldo due to a lack of pasience
1sts HT Westville lead 13-3
2nds Westville 28 KES 8
Who was at the Gim vs Bishops match?? Was it as one-sided as the score suggests? Or just some scoreboard flattery? Or maybe Bishops had an off day??
Paarl Gim 34 – 12 Bishops!?, expected a much closer match.
GC O/16A 19 vs HJS 9
3rds Westville 7 KES 10
U16A Westville 36 KES 14
The HTS Daniel Pienaar VS Oudtshoorn game is canceled.
@gimmie: This is really a sad state of affairs. I think both the PR and GCB could have had a much different outcome had there been no injuries for PG! I am happy to take the win against you for us, but a different outcome, win or lose, would have been more satisfactory had the game been played in dry conditions between full teams. I think we also had one or two injuries.
@gimmie: i agree they are very good players but Grey also had 5 guys out. lets try and agree that on the day, the team on the field is the best possible team and not worry about the injured players. That is part of the game. Boishaai is without 8 players and some should come back this week-end but never did we complaint or mention this after a game.
@CharlesZA: geen reën tot namiddag Saterdag nie, as ons die weermanne kan glo
@Deon, we played Grey CB without Hermanus, Stander, Visagie and Cooper..our 4 best backline players.This year’s Gym team could in my view have been one of our best ever…Hermanus and Visagie are game breakers and amongst the best schoolboy players in SA. Cooper has the best boot i have ever seen at school boy level and Stander is a very big and powerful wing. It is just a pity for the boys who are missing out on the experience of playing in your matric year…
@Gemaskerdesopbeen: Dit het nie baie gereen die week en dink ook nie daar is nog reen oppad nie.
Die Grey First team het vanoggend vertrek Paarl toe. Mannetjies lekker opgewonde en gereed vir wat voorle.
Met Janu Botha en Reuben Terblanche in die starting line-up op stutte, is hulle reg om die stryd in die scrums op n nat veld aan te vat.
Alex , De Wet en Varkie op die “loose ball” en met n Badenhorst op scrummie om die agterlyn te laat “fire”.
Gaan n greyt game wees!
@Cappie: St Alban’s played PBHS yesterday at PBHS. I wasn’t there but apparently the PBHS 1st team won a very tight game by 12 to 10 and the St Alban’s u16A team beat PBHS u16A by 17 to 3. I’m not sure of the other scores. Last year, the PBHS A teams played St Alban’s A teams, but their C teams played St Alban’s B teams and their E teams v St Alban’s C teams.
@Deon Pitzer: Hulle het nie drank nodig om moleste aan te jaag. In die laaste jare het dit heeltemaal kalmeer. Ten minste is hulle opgevoede hooligans……nie soos ons klomp.
@gimmie: Julle het diepte. Die manne wat in die beseerdes se plek hand op gesteek het, het Saterdag uitstekend gedoen en ek glo die afrigter met ‘n kopseer gelaat.
@dan PRG: Pasop vir Rondebosch – as hulle wen sal dit hul seisoen net weer in perspektief plaas.
Bishops en Gim baie close, maar Grey sal wen met ten minste 10.
Moenie dat Tygerberg se verloor teen Gim laasweek jou flous nie. Tiere behoort met ten minste 20 te wen.
Tiere is immers darem PRG se nannas in 15-man en 7’s….
haha
Groot Saterdag op Nelspruit… NHS vs Mid Teg … altyd goeie harde rugby!!
@Speartackle: Is ons so uniek? Soccer hooligans in Engeland?
@Deon Pitzer: Drank behoort nie hand in hand te loop met sport nie. Die afrikaner het heeltemaal handuit geruk in daai verband.
@gimmie: Geez, that is a horrible list of injuries!!!!! What a pity. It sounds like the Bishops side of last year where for about 6 matches they had 5 or so top first choice players injured too. Speedy recovery to those boys. Horrible to miss out on your first team years.
Having said all that, Gimmies are still going to be VERY powerful. They also seem to know how to beat Bishops. You know, Bishops have their fair share of wins against Boishaai and Paul Roos, but Gim really is their bogey team and there is a big mental barrier the boys need to get over. So, I still think Gim should be favourites
Good luck to both teams.
@Speartackle: Dankie Mr. T. Dit word hoog op prys gestel. Ek dink drie keer voor ek oor iets praat wat nie 100% rugbyverwant is nie, soos byvoorbeeld oor drinkgate. Dan weer, daar is seker ‘n sterk verband tussen drinkgate en rugby kyk.
@kosie: O ja, en die Ninja Swaardkap skool hier in Krugersdorp het ook 6 spanne.
@kosie: Daars n skool op Potch, Ferdinand Postma, hulle het n paar spanne beskikbaar as julle vasbrand. Miskien om dinge makliker te maak kan die games sommer op Fochville gereel word.
@Deon Pitzer: Ou Pitzie, ek merk op jy praat darem bietjie rugby. Mooi man.
@gimmie: Gim are experiencing a bit of a Stormers season with regard to injuries. It does dampen the spirit a bit, but I do not think it is a matter of “very little talent left”, although you clearly don’t have your preferred talent available. Having said that, spirit and guts can cause surprises. Bishops really have a fantastic team, and I am sure Gim will not underestimate them. They play beautiful Southern Suburbs rugby. How many of the players you point out were injured and not playing against GCB?
Balilkibaba, i am predicting a bishops win…Gym simply has too many star players missing…Willemse (5), Luus(8), Visagie (12), Cooper (10), Stander (14), Hermanus (15) definitely out with Smit(10) and Human (15) extremely doubtful. In 40 years of following Paarl Gim We have never had a season with so many serious injuries…Having said that I will be supporting my team as always, just feel sorry for the coaches who are trying their best with very little talent left..
Diamantveld vs Upington HS Saturday.
@Deon Pitzer: Depends on which Bishops team pitches up. if its the one who were so flat vs De Kuilen on Saturday it is going to be a long day. They threw 2 intercept try passes on Saturday.
Ek voorspel die Paarl skole om hul onderskeie wedstryde te wen, Grey het n baie goeie span….. maar tuisvoordeel gaan die verskil wees, glo my, daai Boishaaiers is slaggereed! Ook, Gimmies weet hoe belangrik die game is hul seisoen. dit gaan ook n close een wees as die regte Bishops opdaag. Verder PRG oor Bosch en nie seker wat gaan gebeur tussen Tygerberg en De Kuilen nie…haha
@BOG: Wat is jou voorspelling vir die wedstryd Boishaai vs Grey?
@Balikibaba: Bishops by 5 (wet weather) -10 (dry weather). I think Bishops are the team to beat in the Western Cape 2014. Playing the game I came to know Bishops for in the 80’s, exhilarating and ingenious running game, read the Kosters, Ehrentraut etc. Look forward to PRG playing them in any conditions.
Massive games in Paarl!
Gym vs Bishops: If, and it is a big IF, the Bishops forwards can hold their own against a big Gym pack and get good ball for their very quick and talented backs, and IF the backs pitch up for the game, I think we could see a Bishops victory. It all depends which Bishops side turns up. i would still say Gym are firm favourites though.
Grey vs Boishaai: I think Grey by about 10. There is no such thing as a weak Boishaai side, but this is not one of their strongest and it is a VERY good Grey side. But this Boishaai team really have character so I would not discount the idea of an upset.
What about the Oakdale vs Outeniqua? This is going to be an epic battle to be strongest in SWD. Why isn’t this match on the scedule?
@PRondersteuner: that match too for sure!
@OudUppie: Daar bestaan nie genoeg water of vog in die VS om hulle voor te berei vir die waters van Brugstraat nie. Al die plaasvervangers kan maar swemmers wees.
Dit reen te lekker in Bloem vandag. Goeie voorbereiding vir GC se spanne vir Saterdag se “gewaarborgde nat velde”
@phat55: For sure, and I would love to see that Grey PE vs Wynberg match.
Boishaai vs Grey College AND Paarl Gim vs Bishops are going to be crackers!!!!
@OudAffie: Ja groot verwarring! Ek dink die water het nou helder geword. Eldo se C spanne speel teen Affies se F spanne by Zwartkop.
@kosie, dan is daar iewers ‘n misverstand, op Affies se webtuiste speel hulle teen Zwartkop, maar dit maak seker nie saak nie, dis darrem wedstryde vir die laer spanne. Affies se O14/F, O/15F en 16/F speel saterdag by Zwartkop rugby, dit kan ek te minste verseker.
@kosie: Dankie Kosie, dit maak in elk geval meer sin aangesien Eldo groter as Zwartkop is en hulle laer spanne soek ook wedstryde. As Boys High 4 keer teen Affies kan speel kan Eldo seker twee keer teen hulle speel.
@OudAffie: Dit mag wees dat dit Affies se F spanne is wat by Zwarries teen Eldo speel. Zwarries het net A en B spanne maar darem 4 ope spanne
@OudAffie: Ek het die eldo rugby guru gekontak en hy bevestig dit soos ek dit genoem het.
@kosie, Affies se C spanne speel teen Centurion se B spanne, Affies se F spanne gaan by Zwartkop speel
@Cappie, Affies se B spanne sal nie speel hierdie naweek nie, ek vermoed daar word gekyk vir wedstryde vir die D en E spanne, dalk selfs G. As daar wedstryde gereël gaan word teen Boys High sal dit wees by Boys High se velde, Affies se velde is vol teen Centurion en daar sal nie nog wedstryde ingedruk kan word nie aangesien die Witbulle al 12:45 speel, daar gaan nie genoeg tyd wees nie.
Maar nou ja, dit is presies die probleem wat Dr Edwards wil uitlig, dis baie goed dat Affies teen Pretoria skole speel [Centurion, Garsfontein, Waterkloof, Menlopark en Eldorainge], maar dan kan daar net tussen 10 en 15 wedstryde verwag word, en dit is nie eers krag teen krag nie, wat van die res?, nou word daar geskarrel om wedstryde te probeer reël vir die res.
@Kosie, die rugby bepalings van Affies teen Zwartkop se C-spanne is so op hul webtuiste, gaan kyk self, Affies speel later teen Eldos
@Cappie: Volgens my inligting het Zwarries nie c spanne nie en dus speel Affies se C Spanne teen Eldo by Zwarries omdat dit die Classic Clash is. Die skeidsregters almal van Zwarries. O/16 C om 09:50 op C veld, O/15 C om 10:55 op B veld en O/14 C om 10:55 op C veld.
Dit werp nou lig op die hele onderwerp!
@OudAffie: Dit lyk my Boys High speel by St Albans. Waar sal die laer spanne speel? Ek sien die B-spanne en D-spanne van Affies speel nie. Dink jy hulle gaan teen Boys High se B en D spanne speel? Ek sou wou dink Boys High sal hulle B spanne teen St Albans se B-spanne wil laat speel, of dink jy hulle C-spanne gaan ook teen St Albans se B spanne speel, soos Affies s’n teen Centurion se B-spanne?
@Cappie, ja in my dae op Affies het ons 4 of 5 keer ‘n jaar gespeel teen Boys High om wedstryde te kry, ook in Krieket speel Affies en Boy High tot 10 keer is jaar om die laer spanne ook wedstryde te gee.
@OudAffie: Ja, dit sal nice wees. Ek sien Boys High speel teen St Albans, so hulle sit in dieselfde dilemma as Affies.
@Cappie, ja jy is reg maar soos ek gesê het gaan daar gepoog word om nog wedstryde te reël teen teen Boys High se laer spanne, ook vir saterdag. Daai bepalings is sovêr wat gespeel gaan word.
@OudAffie: Met die bepalings wat jy daar het, speel nog net die helfte van die skool se spanne.
@Cappie, al wat ek weet is dat Centurion nie genoeg wedstryde het vir Affies hierdie naweek nie en dat daar nog ander wedstryde gereël gaan word teen Boys High se laer spanne. Op die oomblik is daai bepalings die wedstyde soos verkry van die Affies webtuiste
@kosie: Hoekom speel Zwartkop se C spanne teen Affies? Het julle nie C spanne nie, of het julle C en D spanne ander wedstryde aan. Eldoraigne is tog ‘n makro skool?
Bepalings vir Affies hierdie naweek teen Centurion en Zwartkop :
1. Affies O/14A vs Centurion O/14A
2. Affies O/14C vs Centurion O/14B
3. Affies O/14F vs Zwartkop O/14C
4. Affies O/15A vs Centurion O/15A
5. Affies O/15C vs Centurion O/15B
6. Affies O/15F vs Zwartkop O/15C
7. Affies O/16A vs Centurion O/16A
8. Affies O/16C vs Centurion O/16B
9. Affies O/16F vs Zwartkop O/16C
10. Affies 6des vs Centurion 4des
11. Affies 5des vs Centurion 3des
12. Affies 2des vs Centurion 2des
13. Witbulle vs Centurion 1stes 12:45
Die Zwartkop wedstryde word by Zwartkop gespeel
Must say that my old school St Andrews Bloem has got a much more exciting fixture list that when I was at school.In my day we only played one out of province fixture.Being the only English school in the Free State playing rugby was tough on occasions.(Okay Grey does have a few English classes a grade but definitely in the minority)If previous results are indication this should be quite a close game against Clifton.The boys have had two tough weeks against St Johns and St Albans
@Beet: Eldoraigne playing Zwartkop in the annual Classic Clash at Zwarries
2 GROOT games in Paarl Saterdag!!!! Nog 2 grotes in PE en Durban. Sterkte aan al die spanne. Ek geniet die skolerugby baie!!!!