The WP schools rugby selectors have announced the three final Under 18 trials teams, which will practice at De Kuilen on Monday 13 and 20 May 2013 and then, after any tweaking necessitated by injury, take on their Boland counterparts at Wellington on Wednesday 22 May.
As always, there are one or two surprises. In this regard, it is interesting to note that neither Nic le Roux nor Graham Geldenhuys is currently in the Rondebosch 1st XV. Neither boy is injured.
| JV RENSBURG TEAM | STOFBERG TEAM | JASPER TEAM | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| NAME | SCHOOL | # | NAME | SCHOOL | # | NAME | SCHOOL | |
| 15 | Heinrich Bühr | Boland Landbou | 15 | Danté van der Merwe | HJS Paarl BH | 15 | Khanyo Ngcukana | Rondebosch |
| 14 | Daylen Daniels | HJS Paarl BH | 14 | Dewald Naudé | HJS Paarl BH | 15 | Tiaan Swanepoel | Stellenberg |
| 14 | Edwil van der Merwe | Paul Roos | 13 | Ryan Oosthuizen | Paarl Gim | 14 | Leaviel Gouws | Paarl Gim |
| 13 | Jarred Sage | Wynberg | 12 | Daniel du Plessis | Paul Roos | 14 | Dylon Fairbridge | Paarl Gim |
| 12 | Richard Rodgers | SACS | 11 | Grant Hermanus | Paarl Gim | 13 | Wayno Visagie | Paarl Gim |
| 11 | Ferlin Vers | HJS Paarl BH | 10 | Siya Alam | Wynberg | 13 | Diego Visagie | Stand |
| 10 | Dennis Cox | Excelsior | 9 | Herchelle Jantjies | Paul Roos | 12 | Luan Boshoff | HJS Paarl BH |
| 9 | Brendon Nell | Paarl Gim | 9 | Stef de Gouveia | Rondebosch | 11 | Nic le Roux | Rondebosch |
| 8 | Gareth Cilliers | Paarl Gim | 8 | Rikus Bothma | Paarl Gim | 11 | Tyrone Jacobs | Kass |
| 7 | Vernon Pietersen | Paul Roos | 8 | Saud Abrahams | Bishops | 10 | Adriaan Carelse | Hottentots HH |
| 6 | Ryan Davids | Wynberg | 7 | Jacques Vermeulen | Paarl Gim | 9 | TJ Goddard | Tygerberg |
| 5 | Matthew le Roux | HJS Paarl BH | 6 | Charlton Jonas | HJS Paarl BH | 9 | Damien Stevens | HJS Paarl BH |
| 4 | Jaco Willemse | Paarl Gim | 5 | JD Schickerling | Paarl Gim | 8 | Charl-François du Toit | HJS Paarl BH |
| 3 | Matthys Basson | Boland Landbou | 4 | Burger van Niekerk | HJS Paarl BH | 7 | Graham Geldenhuys | Rondebosch |
| 2 | Jacques van Zyl | Paul Roos | 3 | François van der Merwe | HJS Paarl BH | 7 | Wesley White | Bishops |
| 2 | Cuan Hablutzel | Bishops | 2 | Daniel du Plessis | HJS Paarl BH | 6 | Christo van der Merwe | Paul Roos |
| 1 | Gavin van den Berg | Paarl Gim | 1 | Thomas du Toit | HJS Paarl BH | 5 | Mitch Lingeveldt | Paul Roos |
| 1 | Joel Macquene | SACS | 4 | Johan Momsen | Paarl Gim | |||
| 3 | Brett Paulse | Rondebosch | ||||||
| 2 | Reghardt Louw | Paarl Gim | ||||||
| 2 | Ruan Brits | HJS Paarl BH | ||||||
| 1 | Kyle Whyte | Rondebosch | ||||||
| 1 | Jacques Wiese | Paarl Gim |
@Slam: I think the issue with the WP set up is there is historically more influence from certain schools there which must be changed and one way of doing that is having a WP Country Districts side.
Not saying the influence is bad in anyway but players from Paarl GYM/PBH/Paul Roos have a much better chance of playing for WP than other players there school set up is very much control by these 3 power houses.
ek glo die Stofberg span is die “backbone ” van die Cw span alhoewel om by 11+11 uit te kom gaan lol, en sal sorg vir n paar verras
sings.Ek het die pak by die laaste proewe gaan kyk en hulle was skitterend.As die keurders reg kies hier gaan hulle moeilik geklop word.Sou egter graag Du Plessis op 10 ook wou sien Met Schiecerling,Van Niekerk, Vermeulen en Botma wat reeds CW gespeel het is die ” core” van die skrum reg
@BoishaaiPa: Good point, why isn’t there a WP CD team involved in CW? Would make a lot of sense and would reduce the moaning, unhappiness, debate etc that naming of the WP side attracts.
@BoishaaiPa: Stem saam in ‘n mate, maar stel voor dat seker van die skole soos jy noem (Gim, Boland Landbou en Boishaai ingesluit) eerder onder Boland val waar hulle in elk geval hoort. Dan eerder WP Noordelik en WP Suidelik.
Daar is net eenvoudig te veel goeie spelers in die Noordeliek V/stede (en elders) wat uitval weens die “omstandighede” waaronder die CW spanne gekies word.
Ek weier om te glo dat in die hele Noordelike Voorstede daar nie EEN speler is wat goed genoeg is om die “A” proefspan te haal nie, wat nog te sê van slegs 3 in die hele groep van 50+ spelers vir die finale proewe.
@Tjoppa: Well that is essentially what happens with the CW and Academy sides…There is just not any other comp and why we would love a WP CD side for the Stellenbosch/Paarl and Somerset-West/Strand area and a WP side for the Nothern and Southern Subs.
enige iemand wat weet hoe werk die kwotas vir cravenweek hierdie jaar .gaan dit die selfde wees as vorige jaar.
@BoishaaiPa: Why don’t you guys do what the Valies does. Pick a team for CW then a B team for the Academy side and a C team for all the Transvaal Provinces. At least 75 boys involved and almost everybody good gets a chance.
@gimmie: Yes, it would seem that we dont have any merit having 7 players in the A-team given the results thus far. However, I do believe that there is such a small difference in the relative strenghth of schoolboy sides that a team results should not reflect on the ability of the player. It all depends on what type of game the coach wants to play and which players he think will be able to execute his gameplan the best…and of course as Tandem mentioned, combinations that knows each other. ..There might be an individual player in Position x that is marginally better than another but doesnt get picked because he perhaps doesnt quite fit into the gameplan or combination as well as the other player. Having said that and looking at the players and knowing their abilities, there is little to chose between any of these players in the 3 sides…They dont pick themselves though…I think the Coach has probably the most input at this stage. The academy coach get the second bite of the cherry!
@GimOB: Defnitief op sy eie by HJS aangekom op aanbeveling van n Old Boy wie bevriend is met sy Pa. Aanames kan fataal wees!..
@gimmie: Very difficult to comment . Probably they are going for combination . I think it is fair to say that Craven Week selections can always be questioned and that it is safe to say that there are in many cases various other options not chosen whom all would have been just as good . The question is how one can prevent that ? Probably by playing many more trials but when do you get time for it ? Top schools already have a full program and preperations for big games get disrupted by these trials so i cannot see how more trials can take place . I really feel for boys playing for schools not in the top tier because their chances of being notice is near impossible . I am massively in favour of a WP Country team to allow the Northern and Southern Suburbs schools to get more chance for exposure.
@GimOB: Nee jong, myne klop, die enigste kriteria is meriete (dis tog wat jy wou hê ek moet sê, nie?).
@GimOB: Waars ou Bloedwors?
Ek mis sy bravado tussen al die ou eentonige geselsies.
@Ploegskaar: Jou getalle klop nie; 11+11=22
@Speartackle: Alles wat hy gesê het is algemene kennis
@PaarlBok: Sal graag vir Oosthuizen en Sage buite Alam wil sien, met Naude en Hermanus op 11 & 14, Buhr op 15 en Goddard op 9 (Wynberg se scrummie Scott is ongelukkig nie hier nie, hy sou my eerste keuse wees). Dus:
15.Buhr (BL)
14.Naude (HJS)
13.Sage (WB)
12.Oosthuizen (PG)
11.Hermanus (PG)
10.Alam (WB)
9.Goddard (TB)
8.Bothma (k, PG)
7.Vermeulen (PG)
6.Jonas (PRG)
5.Schickerling (PG)
4.v. Niekerk (HJS)
3.Basson (BL)
2.Du Plessis (HJS)
1.Du Toit (HJS)
16.Louw (PG)
17.Paulse (RB)
18.Lingeveldt (PRG)
19.Abrahams (B)
20.Nell (PG)
21.Du Plessis (PRG)
22.Swanepoel (SB)
Ek sien ou Eddie het hom goed ingegrawe daar by julle. Wie het hom so mooi voorgese met die onderhoud?
@Speartackle: R0 as hy nie in die Paarl is nie.
Ek merk op baie van die spanne hierbo het sommer 2 regtervleuels en 4 hakers. Word die WP toegelaat vanjaar om met 20 man per span aan CW deel te neem om die afgelope paar seisoene se mislukkings te kelder?
Wat is die boekiewaarde van n Gauteng slot in die Paarl?
Die middeveld keuse gaan moeilik wees en daar is hope rugby bloed. Ryan Oosthuizen lyk na ‘n sekere keuse, die ander twee is Daniel du Plessis, Michael se laaitie en Doug Hopwood se kleinseun Jarryd Sage van Wynberg.
@BoishaaiPa and Tandem, what do you think of the WP A trial side. It’s clearly the one with Bothma, Scherkinling, Vd Merwe, Vermeulen etc. Gym has 5 players in the side and I think all 5 have proven themselves with 4 of them having already played for WP last year (Bothma, Schirkerling, Vermeulen and Hermanus) and Oosthuisen again Saturday proved himself as a class act. I do not think we should have more then 5 Gymmies in the starting A 15. I am however surprised with your 7 players in the first 15. Do you think that they all merit selection? Is it not a few too many given your performances thus far? I feels wrong to me that our two schools should have 12 players in the A team, when both schools are not right up at the top in terms of performances and results. If seven are to be selected for WP there is going to be a lot of pressure on them and your team to justify their selection. You know these players better than I do so it would be interesting to get your views.
@GimOB: Yip we thought we were getting Bothma , we ordered the wrong number .
8)
@BoishaaiPa: Was hy gekoop?…… en toe weer verkoop? (sorry BHP, ek kon dit nie weerstaan nie!!!!)
@Ploegskaar: I think they have different selectors, but maybe the same convenor..
@Ploegskaar: Attitude!…..nothing is gaurenteed and if you dont work hard or give your best, dont expect things to fall into your lap. ..
@BoishaaiPa: Does the same apply for the u/16 GK team? I think I know who the convener is there…… Read elsewhere your Tswane-lock has upped and left, assume the prospect of playing in yet another wet and muddy Cape winter was the reason?
@Ploegskaar: I think he is, I am not sure. Selectors are 3 from WP Union (Including the Convenor) , One from Paarl School, One from Southern Subs school and the two coaches from CW and Academy sides. That is the whole selection panel.
@BoishaaiPa: I do apologize, ignorant as usual, but he is from Brackenfell HS, yes?
@Ploegskaar: He is not a selector, None of the names the teams carries are selectors, only manages the teams.
@Queenian:
@Ploegskaar: Can only be QC86
@Queenian: Only on the odd occasion, I only co-ordinate sales nowadays and have a sales team with assigned client accounts to service. A certain butcher in K-Town gets to deal with the Big Mac though, but he seems to be quite a SBR follower, so don’t mind that
@Ploegskaar: You still have contact with Wayne Henen
@Ploegskaar: Ye George i know he has done alot of lobbying for the import chaps even had a meeting with our guys a bit of time ago it is a pity some of the players in my industry are one minded. Least i know i plan is two become more competitive in our own game and not to depend on imports being stopped.
Ye Ralph is a stand up guy have you ever being to Queens
@Queenian: James Stofberg, selector from I think Brackenfell HS.
@Queenian: George? What a small world. Really hardworking, all-round stand-up guy and a great rep for our industry. Don’t know Ralph, apart from his sporting exploits, but have Warren in my ear about the greatness of all things Queens regularly
@Ploegskaar: Hey Ploeg was at Queens reunion on the 19th bumped into Mr Southey he was at Queens with me flip he would not let the whole chicken thing alone.
Had a good time with Ralph Cullinan was good to see him again.
Oor die algemeen dink ek dit is goeie keuses alhoewel daar seuns is wat hulle baie ongelukkig kan ag – een speler aan wie ek dadelik dink is die losskakel van Tygerberg.
Bly om te sien dat die Suidelike Voorsted ook goed verteenwoordig word. Ons sal maar sien die verassings as die finale spanne aangekondig word.
Think the final CW and Academy teams will deliver even more surprises, but the less said, now and then, the better. Congratulations to Heinrich and Matthys (BL), Tiaan (S’Berg), Jarred and Siya (W’Berg), TJ (Tygerberg) and all the Paarl Gim boys, you guys have earned the recognition to date.
The u/16 GK final trials teams have also been announced (only 2) and the looseheads picked has honestly left me astounded. These type of selections clearly illustrate why the WP CW teams have performed so poor of late and why CW has lost its appeal not only for supporters, but more importantly for many players. And Mr. Convener and your possie of useless selectors, I would really like to hear your explanation on the selection of that Bishops loosie who’s dad played for WP (better than Le Grange my ass!) and the inclusion of the Bishops boy (you know who) that was not even included in any team in the previous round of trials.
@beet: Were does the name Stofbery come from is that named after Theuns Stofberg.
Stofberg looks very strong, heard some good things about Jarred Sage
@Queenian: Got cut off. Resized it now
Were is the 3rd team