Neighbouring Durban schools Durban High School and Glenwood have a rich sports history filled with many great traditions and highlights. However late last year the DHS Governing Body made a decision to cancel all sports events against Glenwood for 2013. It was a seemingly harsh call but one which it’s members felt was totally justified and not taken lightly either. Like a few other off the field school rugby related problems in KwaZulu-Natal in 2012, the underlying reason for the Governing Body action was recruitment. According to DHS the decision to suspend the sports relationship was based on numerous attempts by Glenwood, some successful and others unsuccessful to recruit their students that excelled at sport (Glenwood do not support this view). In the eyes of DHS the choice made was therefore not the result of just a single isolated incident. Nevertheless pulling out of all sports seemed like an extreme measure that should only have been taken once all other attempts to come to a better understanding had failed. On the surface it definitely did not look like enough of an effort was made to bridge the gap with Glenwood. All along Glenwood came across as being prepared to come to the table and discuss the matter so the ball rested firmly in DHS’s court.
The good news is that the communication channels are very much open at present and it is looking promising that the two schools will come to a mutually beneficial agreement very soon, paving the way for all 2013 fixtures will be restored. In hindsight, perhaps by suddenly ending a prolonged deterioration in their relationship and the unhappiness that went hand in hand with it, this forcing the situation to rock bottom sooner rather than later has been the best way to go about it after all. But nothing good would have been achieved if the two parties were not prepared to open a dialogue, so hats off to them.
Two major dramas that unfolded in 2012 resulted in KZN high schools now having a formalised Headmaster’s Agreement and an ongoing commitment to test for over-aged players. These are two huge positives that arose out of negative situations! Although several KZN school establishments had been criticised along the way in 2012, their end results and the speed at which they arrive at those new procedures has to be commended. As far as DHS and Glenwood are concerned, there is still some hard work ahead. First prize for them is to get to a place where both parties are happy and playing against each other again. First prize for KZN overall would be if this latest drama somehow resulted in the drawing up of a formalised player recruitment agreement for all local school to accept and abide by.
Also encouraging to hear is that a more active role is being taken in the DHS/Glenwood conflict resolution by representatives of the Old Boys and/or parents who care deeply about the schools and the direction they are heading in. Although these representatives can never hope to substitute for the valuable contributions that headmasters and loyal dedicated staff make to running of schools successfully, they do have a contribution to make and it is therefore vital that they keep their fingers on the pulse and interact with fellow schools and representatives as part of their commitment to the cause.
Finally for the record it has to be pointed out that Glenwood cannot simply be labelled as the aggressors. They too have been the victims as well. They have lost some good players along the way. In recent seasons, two top-rated under-16 players, a fullback and a loose-forward that Glenwood had invested a good deal of time developing into future 1st XV players, accepted recruitment offers from Hilton.
@star: Well done
@GreenBlooded:
Latest cricket results/scores:
#GreyPEfest Rondebosch 83/1 (25) after bowling Glenwood out for 131.
#GreyPEfest DHS 107/5 (25 overs) drinks taken. Grey High defending 158.
Grey High the only school to have won all their games to date.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Sometime in early 2012 I heard that Graham Hill would be coaching Glenwood but I haven’t heard it since although I haven’t really enquired further. I doubt he would leave Westville and there would be a conflict of interests for him to coach at 2 rival schools so not sure.
HPS is just up the road from me – should have known that. As you say – most likely to Westville or maybe Kearsney.
yep.Wonder who the Bainbridge kid is? stinkin fast for his age.
Kemp is from Hillcrest Primary so most likely to Westville. Dont think DHS has recruited a strong group for 2013.
does Graham Hill help out with both GWD and WBHS?
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Gareth Kemp and Matthew Smith are probably the best swimmers in that age-group overall together with Schoeman. Gareth Kemp – not sure where he’s from or where he’s going. Matthew Smith – great swimmer and polo player, Highbury to Kearsney.
@GreenBlooded:
Search Rueben Schoeman, he’s coming to Glenwood
@star: Firstly, “unbeaten” in limited overs can mean that you drew all 3 matches, all three were rained out ect. Can you be a little more specific, especially about game 2. Their behaviour? Did they shake hands after the match and not curse during it? I know, it takes a lot getting use to that, but its a Grey thing. Outside of Durbs, it is known as “impeccable behaviour”. Strangely, our sister schools, Eunice and Oranje, play “basketball”- just they call it netball. Do your guys also wear dresses?
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Anyone who is a serious swimmer does club swimming. The Westville Swimming Club has a great site to check out good swimmers and how they are ranked. You can check it out here:
http://www.westvillesc.co.za/swim_times.php
You need to know a name in an age group you are interested in for it to work so start with one of the Viljoens. It gives you the kzn rankings for all lengths in all strokes. My lighty is also in there somewhere – he swims against a lot of these guys.
Like I said – Glenwood are focussed on aquatics so it does not surprise me that they have aquired some top swimmers. Going to get interesting in the next few years.
@star:
Well done WBHS. Awesome achievement for them.
yes they are 2nd behind us.
I hear that Westville U14 swimming wont be as good as others this year with Glenwood apparently having a very good side. They have 3 swimmers that were on top of Westvilles wish list for 2013…
Well done Westville on ending the Queens U15 touno unbeaten and winning the team of the week and most well behaved awards. @ Bog Better speak to your boys about their manners
Bit upset about the firsts who had Wynberg 88 for 8 only to let them get to 168 for 9 after 50. They are however missing their captain and star player Schlemmer who is representing the Dolphin colts.
@ Horsy- I believe Westville is ranked 2nd after DHS in basketball and so just shows how good DHS is.
@GreenBlooded:
Just checked with my people and the Glenwood u14 swim team will be great. The Viljoen twins arent even the best of the crop. theres another kid coming in there, very very talented. surname is Schoeman
@star:
yah i would agree. WBHS cricket was great in 2012. Sad that we never played you guys, there were going to be a couple of interesting match-ups.
this was KZN top teams IMO for 2012 for cricket
U14- Kearsney
U15-WBHS
U16- Kearsney
1st- WBHS
B-Ball results for you- http://www.durbanhighschool.co.za/content/news/News_Item.asp?content_ID=842
@ Horsy/Grassy -There was a great article in the SA Cricket magazine about Westville being probably the top school in the country in 2012. They are however losing 8 players and so it will be a rebuilding year ( a bit similar to the GW 2013 rugby team who should also not be written off prematurely)) It will be a highly competitive cricket season with every school putting up their hands( do not forget College and the private schools) and so really looking forward to it. Basketball at Westville is defintely creeping up the rankings with about 4 teams per age group.
@Grasshopper:
yah its small but not for much longer especially since schools are focusing on it much more especially Westville Boys.
interseting that DHS had one of its best softball years in 2012, think they lost a maximum of once and drew to kzns best in GWD.
As for Badminton, we arent that bad there too. we won SA Schools in 2010, KZN Champs in 2010 and 2011(not sure about 2012) and have a great talent in Reneshan Naidoo
http://durbanzone.co.za/mag/index.php/2012/04/20/dhs-pupil-receives-springbok-blazer/
We also arent bad in climbing, SA no1 in 2010, KZN no1 in 2010,2011 and 2012.
Same for Athletics which im sure i dont even need to explain.
@Horsie, why do you always bring up basketball, it’s a tiny sport currently. I admit it has potential to be big, but really only a handful of boys play it. Sports like hockey, tennis, squash, badminton etc are far more recognised. I am aware basketball is where DHS is strong, but so is Glenwood in minor sports like softball, baseball, surfing, target shooting, sailing, mountain biking, paddling, surf lifesaving etc
http://www.schoolsportsnews.co.za/cricket/preview-grey-high-cricket-fest/
DHS playing Grey High and Glenwood Rondebosch today. should be interesting
@Grasshopper:
awesome stuff!! think there are going to be some excellent match-ups this year for the cricket and water polo. Basketball unfortunately still one sided.
I see Glenwood is playing Westville in the T20 SF which means DHS will play Kearsney in the other semi-final.
DHS last won the coastal final in 2010 and were then beaten by College in the provincial finals…
@Horsie, Glenwood cricket fixtures just released, seems the DHS cricket match is still on; http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/sites/default/files/Cricket%20Fixtures%20Term1%202013.pdf
Great news! And we play Westville too.
Here is to the weather playing it’s part and the rugga fixtures being sorted in the meantime…
@Grasshopper:
Yah it seems like its going very well for the schools. DHS very unlucky to draw against both Woodridge and Affies, they were going to win…
Just hoping that GWD and DHS fix the thing now so they can play!
Seems your U15 side is also doing pretty well and so is WBHS U15.
@Horsie, it seems all the KZN sides are doing pretty well Westville have Paul Roos in trouble, Glenwood cleaned up Selborne yesterday. It’s going to be an interesting season for sure.
Have you seen this; http://www.dhsclassof1964.com/
Tempted to get my dad to post pics etc but he finished in 68…..
@Greenblooded, follow HSSM or School sports news on twitter. Also, follow the schools. However, don’t expect any tweets from Glenwood, they have not tweeted in over a year. I do it for them half the time….
Horsey – is there a site where we can follow this?
DHS and Affies draw as overs ran out. Affies still needed 55 to win with 2 wickets remaining. I anticipate a good cricketing year for DHS
Affies in trouble at 125/7 after DHS posted 185. 8 overs left.
GreyPE Festival
@ Beet : Thanks, if Duncan does move this would be his 3rd move since he finished high school. He first went to WP, might have seen competition was tough, then Lions where he was first choice FH, and helped get them to and win the u19 Currie Cup. Moving around before even getting to senior rugby could be damaging. @ Gungets : Where could I get the Skonk fixtures, if they’ve been made.
@Playa: Ahh, the 150th Ten Schools Rugby Tournament. Pretty sure that is a once off but not sure. Will find out.
@Gungets Tuft: WK is as you say, an agricultural group, based in the Kimberley area. They are also the sponsors of Diamantveld HS, but after having the tournament in Pretoria in 2010, it was decided that they will remain in Kimberley. The only exceptions, I presume, will be for special events, such as MC 150. Otherwise, it will be Kimberley.And I dont think a schools 5th or 10 th will merit such an occasion. Unless of course PMB becomes the biggest consumer of their products, this may change!!
@Gungets Tuft: The 150th one that’s taking place for 1st XVs, I meant.
@Playa: That is the Skonk Festival – it will continue, it is not just for the 150th.
@Gungets Tuft: I think he was asking about the MC Easter Festival
@Griffon: Not sure what you are refering to. The Skonk, Nomads festivals will continue. The Wildeklawer is, I think, just a once off. The Wildeklawer company is based in the Northern Cape and I think they will take it back there, or perhaps they will change the format and move it around the country to schools that have the facilities to host it. Not sure though, it is a sponsor decision. Someone said something about it staying at College but I can’t see that.
@Griffon: Hi. I’m trying to get the latest update on Duncan C for you. I last saw him playing Collegians u20A club rugby. I’m not sure what his plans for 2013 are though. Duncan is the kind of player who can take charge and control a match when he’s on song. IMO he offers more than Hauptfleish who is no.2 to Fred in the u21 setup. However when push came to shove last season with both Fred Z and Hauptf. out, the Sharks opted for Keelin Bastew at flyhalf, a selection which suggests that Duncan does or did not have a future at the Sharks. He might have left already. Keelin had a fantastic season as well tho but played centre outside Duncan at club level.
@Beet, who is playing at bizsport?
@Grasshopper: It’s unfortunate that the Easter Holiday is so short this year. The Bizsport Fest at Glenwood also offers top rugby this year. A real pity about the timetable clash but for folks who can’t make it out of Durban or who are heading there on holiday, I’m 100% sure they won’t be disappointed by the quality on offer at Bizsport.
@Griffon, if the College 150th festival continues annually the likes of the KES, St Johns and St Stithians festivals will fade away into memory as they are already not looking that strong. Kearsney festival may have a thing to say too, but hey there are probably enough good teams to spread across the two festivals. Grey PE festival also looked very good, but obviously postponed for this year due to the College festival….
@Gungets : Just wondering. Is the 150th tournament this year going to be a once off festival just for this year, or is it going to continue
@Westers: Agree with that
@Gungets Tuft. What you say is very true. I don’t know any people whose sons are mediocre at sport who have chosen a school based on the results of their A teams in any sport. They have looked at academics and convenience. We chose Westville firstly for its academic record, secondly because of its proximity to home and thirdly because of its all round offering. The fact that it was the top swimming school in the country did not enter the equation. If he had wanted to board we would have looked at College as a first option and Glenwood second because of the all round offering of both.
Beet: Have the Sharks finilized there Super15 squad yet.
@Gungets Tuft: Eish!! This seems ripe for some ANC cadre trying to make a name for him/herself to make a hullabaloo and get laws changed to ‘even the playing fields’. The current rumblings about changing the laws to take powers away from governing bodies might well be a step in that direction.
http://mg.co.za/article/2013-01-11-00-schools-pick-and-choose-their-pupils-ndash-and-their-pass-rates
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Thats how YOU chose a school .. er … not. You chose DHS for your lightie despite them getting smashed at rugby and not matching Westville, Glenwood and College team for team. Why – because your answer is the exception that proves the rule. If parents thought like you say, they would check out the possibility of their kid playing A team, then make a decision. If he wasn’t going to be good enough, because they don’t care about the F team, they send him elsewhere. Most parents send them to a school in hope that the school will provide the environment that is beneficial to their boy, educationally, socially. Sport plays a part, but it is not the be all and end all for those kids below the top achievers. I know of parents that chose a school where their boy would NOT be swamped by superior talent, they chose a school where he would stand out in the crowd, felt it would be good for his self-esteem.
@ Beet : I read on another site that there were two u18 7’s rugby team going to the youth olympics which start on Sunday. I was wondering if it was possible to make an article about. If it wasn’t to much of a hassle ?
OK so you people clearly dont understand.
look, you get ddpth by having rugby playing kids voluntarily coming to your school ok. the only way you do that is by having great A team results. rugbyplaying kids in primary school dont care what a schools F team is doing, they want to see the A team winning, going unbeaten. thats how they choose schools. For SOME parents its a bit different, they MIGHT look at depth.
How are you going to get the F team to do well if the A team is getting walloped???
Its a bit like Glenwood in the early 2000’s, they had very good A teams which beat us most of the time but they usually lost the games from B team downwards.
After a winning culture was established at A team level rugby playing kids started flowing from everywhere!
@Westers, yep that is what I believe too. Not too sure if all the coaches and teachers at Glenwood believe that to be the right strategy. However, I do know anybody who understands why sport is so good (working as a team, learning to win and lose, life skills etc) will know it’s not just about the cream. I know the likes of Skonk at College and Toppy at Glenwood cared about every team on a Saturday. Toppy would even make the 1st side arrive at 8am in the morning to watch the Under13e’s and cheer them on….
@Grasshopper. You are so right. 1st team is what we all read and write about. But every kid remembers the team he played for at school and how they did. My son is not an a team player. Started in the D’s, now C’s and some game time off the bench for B’s. Played hockey in U14 so has only had two years of rugby so far and is proud of the fact that he hasn’t lost a game of SBR that he started. That includes fixtures against Glenwood, College and KES.
The 1st team game on a Saturday may be the pinnacle but it is so much better to go and watch a full day of rugby where most games are competitive as opposed to the one-sided affairs which there are too many of. More the pity that Glenwood and Westville will not play each other this year.
@Horsie, I would care about the G side if my son played in it and had the opportunity to make the F side if he played well. Bottom up is the best way to ensure long lasting results and to make sure the gameplan is the same across the school. In the past that is why College was so strong, they played the same game plan down to this level and if they had injuries players from lower sides slotted in easily, same calls etc. The same can be said for Grey College. Take me for an example, I started in the Under13D’s because I had never played rugby in primary school but ended up playing 2nd’s and 1st’s…WRONG ATTITUDE!
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Well, there’s your problem right there. How will you encourage people to come to the school and compete for positions when you clearly state “Also, everybody always looks at the A team results. Who cares if your G side beat ours?”
No real motivation for the late developer to come in. Not a great strategy.
@rugbyfan: If you are referring to the Skonk Festival for U16 and U14, certainly it is on – 4 April to 6 April.
Massive year next year – full programme here –
http://www.maritzburgcollege.org.za/component/content/article/10-main-links/277-150th-celebration-2013-summary-of-events
@Grasshopper:
I’m not sure what you’re getting at here because it was clearly said that the school will start improving at A team level which we have done well IMO. After that has been properly done THEN will we be looking at depth with much more focus. Also, everybody always looks at the A team results. Who cares if your G side beat ours? Our A side is clearly better(just an example).
@GreenBlooded:
I hope you don’t think that everyone will just lay and watch Glenwood go up in swimming. DHS will definitely fight and WBHS will still be tops for a while though
@Queenian: @Gungets Tuft: Good question is that still on.
@Queenian: No boet, no idea. If they don’t send their boys to College we disown them …. even paint in moustaches and beards on their photos.
Might be able to get an idea of Old Boys kids playing 1sts for College .. starting in 2012 where Reegan Smith’s dad was a member of the all-conquering 1985 side that beat everyone, including Grey College.
@Gungets Tuft: How many MC Old Boys kids have played for 1 st rugby for other KZN schools in the last 5 years
@Gungets Tuft: Are MC still having the under 16 tournament this year and also the under 14 one.
@Grasshopper: Athletics is a weakness, not sure of the solution there. I never did athletics at school, then started running after school, found out I was OK at it.
We can put a few surfers out there, starting with my lightie and the Ballito crowd. Not going to be competitive though. In fact, just lost a kid from Ballito because he was missing the ocean.
One wekness is not the straw ou Horsie was looking for, he needs the whole bale, to stop his statement from sinking …
@Gungets. surfing and bodyboarding ;-). Nah, just pulling your leg. What is a concern is your athletics, once the outright KZN powerhouse, now behind DHS and Glenwood….
@HORSEFLY NO.1: You are grasping at straws. Paddling gets as much focus as hockey, as does cricket. College would not be the recipient of the Jacques Kallis scholarship in KZN if there was a perception that it had no focus. Hockey just happens to be one iof those areas where we have very, very, very good coaches on staff. PMB has a real issue with coaches, we rely on staff, whereas in Durban there are any number of excellent private coaches available. Starting with U14 where the EMS teacher is a Springbok and coaches the B side, the A side is a provincial player, up to Mike Bechet who needs no introduction.
Don’t start with paddling, just look at the record.
Rugby – You might think they have been up and down, we don’t. Other schools have been better – Glenwood consistently so, Kearsney inheriting most of the Dream Team, House recuiting well, as well as Westville. Great teams, possibly not, but poor .. nope.
Just pick me a sport College is not competitive at, other than badminton … and perhaps ballroom dancing, just to back up the statement – “Most other schools have their ONE sport with the utmost focus on then they just have good years here and there in other sports.”
FYI – Grey PE cricket tourno; http://www.hssm.co.za/tournaments/2013/grey-high-1st-xi-cricket-festival
@HORSEFLY NO.1: In a few years time you can add Aquatics to Glenwood’s list. Aquatics has been identified as Glenwood’s next big area of development so the current hot-dogs better not rest on the laurels. Glenwood are going massive on aquatics. It will take a few years but it will happen. Steve La Marque will be overseeing the process. The 2 fine young lads which we ‘poached’ from WSPS are the tip of the iceberg and I look forward with glee to the day the take the upper step on the podium next to their former classmates.
@Horsie, it seems the DHS Under14A sides are good, but the rest are weak in the 2 main codes rugby and cricket. There is not much depth in these codes as seen by the results below.
Rugby vs Glenwood (DHS perspective)
Under14A – lost 3-10
U14B – lost 0-17
U14C vs Glenwood U14D – lost 12-19
U14D vs Glenwood U14E – lost 0-54
U14E vs Glenwood U14F – lost 0-44
Cricket Under 14 – 1st term (DHS perspective)
A won by 100 runs
B lost by 33 runs
C won by 6 wickets
D lost by 45 runs
E lost by 86 runs
F lost by 9 wickets
G lost by 8 wickets
Term 4
A lost by 26 runs
B lost by 9 wickets
C lost by 1 wicket
D lost by 8 wickets
E lost by 8 wickets
Waterpolo (DHS perspective)
A won 13-8
B lost 4-7
Basketball (DHS perspective)
Won by 100 odd points.
Hockey (DHS perspective)
A lost 1-3
B lost 0-4
Swimming, athletics, squash, badminton etc I’m not sure……
@Gungets Tuft:
Are you telling me that College puts as much focus into Paddling and Cricket as they do Hockey? They do pay attention to these but not as much.
The no.1 sport at College has at least for the past 3 years been Hockey. Rugby teams at MC have been up and down but Hockey teams consistently great!
RE U14
They were successful in every major sport but Hockey.
Swimming- top 3 with Clifton and WBHS
Polo- top 5 in SA
Cricket- some great results and some avereage ones but an excellent team that’ll blossom this year
Basketball- Unbeaten in SA
Rugby- KZN’s very best
Hockey- Horror show
Soccer- unbeaten in kzn and also 7 KZN U14 reps
Athletics- contributed massively in keeping dhs at the top.
Academics- great results and one kid will almost surely be in SA rop 5
Hope I’ve answered your Questions RE our U14s
@HORSEFLY NO.1: College … hockey …???
Hahha .. yeah right. Evidence … College had national reps in Rugby (Kriel), paddling (Wewege), hockey (take your pick, we had 3 but Glutz), cricket (Dupavillon). At cross country we were untouchable at Inland. We had a top 5 in SA at golf (Mitchell), our shottists were consistently represented (Dreyers), pretty close to the top of soccer and basketball. Post school we had 3 hockey olympians, winners at Dusi, SA age-group reps at rugby and cricket, Springbok (horse) polo poayers
Sorry bru – your “cross training” has the sound of grand explanation of failure, especially since they go on about the all-rounders and then start with their U14 rugby and polo. How was the U14 hockey and cricket, basketball .. all those other balanced sports.
@Grasshopper:
Most other schools have their ONE sport with the utmost focus on then they just have good years here and there in other sports.
GWD- Rugby
WBHS- Swimming
Clifton- Polo
College-Hockey
N’Wood- Hockey(soon to be replaced by rugby)
He is right though, the approach does have consequences like having your top polo player go to Clofton, top rugga to Glenwood and so on…
I also don’t see any attack at any school, just him stating that they don’t want to focus on just rugby. I myself wish that they would get back to where they were in aquatics,cricket and hockey, carry on dominating Bastketball,Athletics,Badminton and see where the rugby takes you. It doesn’t need to be the predominant figure here…
@Horsie, one for you to read; http://www.hssm.co.za/kwazulu-natal/2012/dhs-all-rounders-approach
I direct swipe at other schools by the coaches. I can tell you other schools are doing the exact same fitness regimes and not focusing on one sport as they claim…..maybe more successful of know for one sport but definitely not focused on one….
@Griffon:
How’s the WBHS U14 swim team looking like??
@ Horsy: I meant it as a fictional list. Swimmers Westville would want
@Griffon:
What Westville list?
I read something about a Zim swimmer which might be poached by Westville. I fhes on Westville list he might go there, since Westville have got a few Zim boys over the year. @Star : I think the u14 coach could be this years u15A coach. T.Zulu. He’ll give the boys good basics if he is coach.
@Gungets Tuft:
I know of 3 to Hilton. The Kzn flank,kzn prop and 1st polo captain…the rest are DHS$
@star
5 what?
@Grasshopper: 3 classes of about 28 normally for DPHS, about 80 – 85 boys. 16 to Westville, about the same to Kearsney if SuperMom had anything to do with it. 2 to Glenwood, 1 to Hilton, couple to House, 9 to College. Say 8 to Clifton. Leaves another 25 – 30 without homes so far. Northwood – haven’t had DPHS boys in a couple of years, perhaps change that this year.
@star: I think you are just a very sore loser on this one mate. Glenwood have the twins from WSPS and there is nothing wrong or untoward with that. You are just going to have to deal with it.
They have made a damn good choice and I think I might just go down specifically to watch them ring the bell in their bottle-green blazers next weekend as they get inducted into Glenwood. Might also go and watch a few galas – wouldn’t it be great to see them beat Westville in a race or 2. That would really be sweet.
@ Greenblooded- ” Another go at GW” I am disappointed you think that. I have nothing against any school who carry the hopes and dreams of many a fine young man, I just attack what I consider bad process. An example is the potential conflict of interest between the Sharks and a school or bringing in new boys who displace those that have done their time. We have all seen the outcomes.Maybe it is the auditor in me but when last minute deals are done against the grain my instincts jump in. Unfortunately the school boy grapevine of ” pocket money” does not help matters. I think Beet is right in that we are going to reach a point where we are going to have to call a spade a spade.
@ Horsy- 5 at my last count unless there have been some last minute deals. There can only be so many Damascan moments
@Grasshopper:
Yes I guess so…
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Graham was/is the best. Then he was aligned to Westville, so I reckon it follows. Remember that Peter Bees was also there, very influencial man in acquatics and would definitely have painted the vision for Chad and his family.
@Horsie, isn’t that because Arde is a DHS Old Boy? Swings and roundabouts really….
@Grasshopper:
Its their choices really… But DHS didn’t advertise themselves much in 2012 at Prep and this has cost them in the end. The 2014 boys will apparently make up for this though so its OK hey.
GWD. Got 2 DPHS boys. Both on bursary.
DHS apparently got 10+ GWD Prep boys for 2013…
@star and horsie, Westville are getting 16 Prep boys, that should be unacceptable from a DHS perspective. isn’t that about a quarter of the whole year…? How many prep boys are going to Glenwood, 1 or 2?
@star:
Think Hilton was at fault here. The boys might have been considering the offer when Hilton put the list up. Same with the boy that’s going to College. Doesn’t matter though, all I’m saying is that WBHS is missing out. WSPS had 6 KZN rugga players and how many are going to WBHS?????
I know of one from DPHS going there…
@GreenBlooded:
Relax,
@star: If you wanted to know why they chose Glenwood over Hilton and Westville you could just go and ask them. Obviously you just want to stir up a bit of debate and have yet another go at Glenwood. Well done – it seems like you’ve succeeded.
Primary school kids are fair game – everyone here has agreed with that at some point. They can chose to go to whatever high school they like. Jeez – is Glenwood going to be under scrutiny now for every primary school kid that goes there other than from Glenwood Prep?? Give me a break. This is getting pathetic.
@ Horsie- To answer your question re Chad he already has done so publically. He was offered DHS, Westville and DHS and chose Westville because of their ” gees”( funny that Greenwood mentions it) at the gala’s. It is a matter of record.
@ Grassy-your reasons for GW are as follows: 1) Friends 2) personal history 3) you were already there. These are all logical reasons and in fact backs up what I have been saying. My son is at Westville because 1) Academics 2) Sports in his fields 3) Son of on OB 4) Friends who have been to 5 schools with him 5) History- his grandmother rode a horse to the school in 1945. I do not need ten thousand arbitary reasons which is what Greenblooded has mentioned. My concern was simply that a reason was put forward on one issue and then a complete turn around in another issue. Mention was also made of being a big fish in a small pond. Surely that is a reason for the DHS flyhalf not to go to GW. Again a bit of a flip flop to suit the situation.
@ Greenblooded- I have never said that any school has a right to its feeder schools( Westville is getting 16 Prep boys). I am just responding to a previous GW comment about Westville coming down the hill. My point was simply what is good for the goose…
As a Hilton OB as well I cannot understand how something that has been made public can be undermined at the last minute. However as Hilton is a different animal to GW and Westville the reasons are more complicated whereas as it is far easier to compare 2 govt schools within 15 kms of each and ask logical questions as myself and Grassy have done about choice of school. Logic usually dictates although I might be unduly stirring the pot :-
@Grasshopper:
Yes untouchable. Clifton and DPHS offer all that you would want from primary school boys.
@Gungets Tuft:
Yes but even with Graham WBHS weren’t the best at that time …
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Chad to Westville – simple answer. Graham Hill. He gets kids that want to make the most of their talent, Graham is the best in KZN at doing that, and he aligns himself to Westville. No harm, no foul.
Untouchable? ;-)…..hmmm, methinks Penzance, Glenwood Prep, all the Bluff, Queensburgh and South Coast schools would probably beg to differ….
@GreenBlooded:
Ask Kurt Donaldson about the cricketers mate. Even Gungets and Star know about it and I never even told them. It was one of the matters discussed between the two schools.
Most of the boys offered were U15 plus one KZN U17 kid and another who made KZN U19 and had recently left GWd for DHS.
If Stars philosophy was to be used RE schools sticking with their own feeder schools then DHS would be untouchable with DPHS and Clifton(which used to be a huge feeder school for us).
Also Chad would probably be a DHS old boy now.
@Yep, that is true but I was given the option to go to Westville Boys High in standard 7 when we moved to Westville as we lived just across the road. I had a guided tour of Westville but decided to stay at Glenwood. My sister decided to move from Durban Girls High to Westville Girls High though…..
@Grasshopper: I thought you said you were from the Bluff and only moved to the Westville area later after you were already at Glenwood. Something about your dad’s new wife living there???
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Good point regarding the swimmers. I wish you and others would back up all your claims about GWD approaches to players with some solid facts and evidence. Tons of allegations – but very light on facts.
@Greenblooded, spot on! Chad Le Clos went to Penzance Primary, how did he end up at Westville? He could easily have been a Glenwood Boy.
@Star, funny enough I chose Glenwood over Westville and I lived in Westville. We do exist. My reasons were because of friends going there, my dad working in Umbilo allowed me to be dropped off and picked up there, my uncles went there, the history and tradition far outweigh Westville, the pupils there are from all walks of life not just affluent areas, it just felt right. My options were DHS, Westville, Glenwood and Kearsney, but I chose Glenwood…..just my personal decision.
@beet: Sorry just told it was by Shaggy
@star:
That was a Jimmy Fallon song. I think it was a one hit wonder.
@star:
I understand why you don’t understand. They are very good swimmers and the best swim school in SA was right there… Do remember that one is also KZN rugby hence the attraction to GWD. All schools lose out on people though, doesn’t matter whether the school is the best or not.
Also, GWD and DHS could both ask the same question about Chad le Clos. GWD because he went to Penzance, their feeder school and DHS because we were the best swimming school in the country when he was I’m primary school. So how did WBHS get him????
@rugbyfan
Not that I know of. Couple of attempts by GWD to get a few cricketers but all failures though
@star: The more interesting question here is why the turned down the scholarship at Hilton – not why they chose Glenwood over Westville.
@star: What boundaries have been pushed??? They are primary school boys who are fair game to any school. Did Glenwood offer them bursaries? Hell yes. Like Westville do all the time. There was a bun fight for these 2 boys – Glenwood won. Deal with it. Glenwood also had a primary school rugby ace signed and sealed at the beginning of 2012 to start this year. He got the kitchen sink thrown at him by Kearsney. Did Glenwood bitch and whine about it? No – they refunded him his deposit and wished him well. Westville are not entitled to every boy from WSPS. Glenwood is not entitled to every boy from Glenwood Prep. DHS is not entitled to every boy from DPHS. Can you say for sure that Westville did not make offers to boys from DPHS and Glenwood Prep? If not then what is the difference between Glenwood approaching WSPS boys? The double standard which is constantly applied to Glenwood needs to stop – it’s getting ridiculous.
Greenblooded – love the ” mahogony and brass feel” part – that says it all – walk along the corridors of the old block and feel the history of the school around you – and what about the “Gees”
that visitors talk about – can’t put your finger on it but you can feel it – at a match at the school last year – I was drawn to a large group of GWD boys on the sidelines & I listened to the chirrping and the banter which I can say i’ve never felt at other fine schools – thats’ part of the uniqueness of the school – that may be one of the reasons to be drawn to Glenwood
@Greenblooded- You can think of ten thousand reasons. Well the 4 you gave are pretty pedestrian so I would hate to see what else you would come up with. The old man is not an old boy and believe it or not there are boarding facilities at Westville. The issue was not about age it is about a statement that you made that boys would choose the school that are the best in the business in their specific field. Now that is a reason I can buy into rather than 13 year old kids choosing 100 year old mahagony or not liking a school they have not been to and which is filled with their friends. I respect the fact that you have given your name ( as I did) and call for bloggers to be consistent in their positions. That is all I ask. Also the statement to ” just ask” and” prove it “does not mean that boundaries might not have been pushed. That would be naive in the extreme and possibly put in context the current fallout with DHS and Westville.
Are there any boys at DHS in 2012 moving to GW
@star: Maybe their old man is a Glenwood OB and wants them to go to Glenwood. Maybe they don’t like Westville. Maybe they want to board. Maybe they think they will be bigger fish in the pond at Glenwood (excuse the pun). Maybe they like the 100 year old mahogony and brass feel about Glenwood. Hell I could think of ten thousand reasons why a boy would choose Glenwood over Westville.
@star: I’m not getting the picture here. The controversy around the DHS boy moving to Glenwood was because he was U16 and at DHS. The boys you are talking about are at primary school and therefore fair game by anyone’s standards. Just because they are at Westville SP doen’t mean they have to go to WBHS – in the same way that boys from Glenwood Prep don’t always go to Glenwood high.
If you want to know why they chose to go to Glenwood – just ask them!!
@ Greenblooded- I think it was you that gave reasons for the move of the DHS flyhalf to GW as being for a more high profile school( rugby wise) with better programs ect. How then do you explain the move of two Westville Senior Primary Boys to GW in connection with the aquatics. Westville in 2012 had their best swimming year ever( both in and out of school). They won every race in not one but two galas for the first time in 40 years. That equates to 52 races on the trot. I don’t think GW won a race all year. There is also the Olympic success which takes it to the next level. Westville were ranked no 1 nationally( 5 years in a row). GW were not in the top 4 provincially. Again I want you to apply the same reasoning as you do for rugby( although the gap is a lot closer . I did notice that 40 % of the KZN players in the SA U20 set-up are from Westville and the only GW rep is an ex Waterkloof boy). You can then add in the new facilities and the fact that 90 % of their friends will be going to Westville. Lastly I think it was Grassy that complained that Westville should stick to its basic feeder structures.( well I think GW should do so as well). I am reminded of that song which ends with “it wasn’t me” What does confuse me though is how Hilton can announce bursaries as a done deal when obviously they are not. There is something not right in the land of Nod(again)
@GreenBlooded:
Yah but it think Clifton and Westville will be tops for at least the next 5 years.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Glenwood is starting to go massive on aquatics. Getting Steve La Marque was just the beginning. Watch this space.
@GreenBlooded:
Westville will be kicking themselves. Another KZN rugga player lost to GWD. The other is GWD U14A cappie Brummer.
GWD will have a big team of stars IMO
@Grasshopper:
Don’t think it would have been a massacre. I think the AffiesU14. Beat Grey so you wouldve been OK.
Yah GW will learn but it doesn’t mean much. Your U16 team played these teams yet they were 3rd in 2012.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: They chose to go to Glenwood so I heard. And I doubt it is because Glendwood offered them in excess of R180k a year each.
@GreenBlooded:
The Viljoen twins?? If so, what happened?
Glenwood Under14A’s played 16, won 12, lost 3 and drew 1. The losses were 0-30 to Monnas, 8-20 to Affies and 5-15 to Westville. Unfortunately or fortunately we did not play Grey Bloem this year due to snow, that could have been a massacre. The DHS side should be playing teams the strength of Monnas to really progress and improve. The Glenwood side will learn from the games and improve…
@Grasshopper:
Sure no problem. The kid I think is Pedantics kid, also made KZN U15 cricket…
Yah the backline will be fast but the gameplan will have to change.
Yes, harder opposition will do the trick. I think they are all back at DHS this year, no departures
2 of the boys on Horsies Hilton list are going to Glenwood. The swimmers.
@Horsie, thanks for the links.
The Kearsney kid looks very tall, similar build to Carel Swart and probably quite quick.
Thobejane looks tiny but obviously very quick. If he does make the Glenwood 1st side at some point, Glenwood surely will have the quickest backline in KZN.
Well done the the DHS Under14A’s, great season. If only they had some harder opposition like Affies, Grey Bloem etc. Yes, a wry smile of course but we all know the better team lost….
http://www.rugbynewssa.co.za/home-page/dhs-s-u14a-rugby-boys-do-their-school-proud.html
DHS U14. in their 17 games 10 teams went scoreless against them, 52 against and 540 for. good stuff. just the one little blemish which will surely give Grassy a smile
http://www.rugbynewssa.co.za/home-page/fleet-footed-khutso.html
interesting interview this, KZN U16 kid from GWD. his fav game is vs DHS and he made limpopo blue bulls at u13 and was at ben vorster in grade 8 which means GWD recruited him in grade 9 all the way from Limpopo
@Grasshopper:
hes only 15th in the 50 free but the stats show that hes the best in kzn in the 50,100 and 200m breaststroke, a stroke in which GWD is usually very strong in
http://www.rugbynewssa.co.za/home-page/tristan-dixon.html
kid bigger than his dad. very good player though, i wish i had his try from the base of the scrum vs DHS on tape!!
@Horsie, Check out Jamie; http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/glenwood-boy-wins-pool
@Grasshopper:
Nope Kevin Bargate -http://www.westvillesc.co.za/my_times.php#
very, very good swimmer, one for the future perhaps.
im sure Westvile have been hounding him for years. same goes for the one DHS kid whos the fastest u16 swimmer in KZN .WBHS wont give up, hes disinterested but they think that they have a right to all the top swimmers since they are the top swim school
@Horsie, do you mean Jamie Isemonger? I hope Westville don’t poach him…..that would not be good. He is from Zim I believe so needs to be in the BE, hopefully he is settled in Gibson now…
Not sure about the Van Tonder twins and Van Rensburg……sound Afrikaans so maybe to Glenwood…..
@Grasshopper:
Think Gungets would probably tell you more about that, but surely he wouldve gone to Glenwood if so and not MHS.
Wonder where the van tonder twins from Penzance went to and the talented flyhalf van Rensburg.
i think Glenwood will do well to hold onto their best swimmer away from WBHS. hes very good and is no.1 is SA for one or two events.
will be interesting to see if WBHS u14 swim team can live up to their predesessors
OK, thanks Horsie. I wonder if the Kershaw kid is any relation to Trevor……
Still, even without having any waterpolo feeder schools Glenwood does pretty OK in the pool….
@Grasshopper:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/595503.html
You will find the kzn team here. D.Fynn and C.Pillay both of Glenwood Prep. Pillay still at Primary while im not sure where Fynn is going.
KZN U13 Polo team here http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/595503.html
it consists of 5 DPHS boys, one Highbury boy and 7 Clifton boys . all these schools arent really feeder schools to Glenwood hence them not having any kzn players going there
@Horsie, Ah OK I was told by my mate that they are two very good cricketers, wasn’t sure what age they were. Two to look out for in a few years then…..
@Horsie, that sounds strange that not one waterpolo player is going to Glenwood, especially with La Marque in charge. Not too worry though, the swimmers/rugga players from the Bluff and Borough make pretty good polo players and Glenwood have never really had an intake of boys who have played polo before. I don’t believe Penzance or Glenwood Prep play polo.
@Grasshopper:
He was a hooker, converted to flyhalf in 2012 and made KZN U13 after an injury to another flyhalf who is/was going to Glenwood.
Skhumbuzo is going to Glenwood. hes very passionate about it
@Grasshopper:
http://www.glenwoodprep.co.za/news/1858/kzn-cricket-stars
They are both U11 boet, meaning they are roughly in grade 6 for 2013.
@Gungets Tuft:
Thought DHS was going to grab one of those KZN boys, the rugby and cricket one, not to be though
@Horsie, another one for you. Glenwood Prep’s hooker Skhumbuzo Nzimande?
@Gungets Tuft:
Sad that Hilton would even go to that kind of extremes then. putting loads of pressure on just a 13 year-old and even claiming he is going to your school. Wonder if the other DPHS KZN rugga player is still going there, there were talks of him and DHS…
haha Hope huh? good kid though, very good in both cricket and rugby, think hes slightly better at cricket. the other DPHS KZN cricketer going there is going there too and i think was also KZN U13A hockey captain so that just adds to the already impressive hockey team that College has once again gathered…
@Grasshopper:
As for schools getting KZN boys for all sports i think its more so for the public schools though. the schools with the most KZN A players USUALLY, NOT ALWAYS BUT USUALLY do best at u14 level. as for Glenwood, dont know hey but they havent gotten any kzn polo players, dont think theyve gotten kzn cricket either. the one GWD Prep kid who made kzn cricket I THINK has been stolen by DHS.
if you look at DHS U14 age group for 2012, they had many kzn players thus the success. the cricket side had 3 KZN U13 boys, the Rugby side 4 KZN boys, soccer side with 7 KZN U14 boys, Polo side with 6 KZN U14 boys(they ended up winning the sa schools tournie).
dont think this years bunch will be EXACTLY like this but itll be fine. the 2012 bunch was helped by a DPHS intake that even though wasnt large( only 35 or so) was excellent in quality.
Some of the kids went from playing 2nds and 3rds at primary to making KZN when at High School such was the quality.
@Gungets or Horsie, do you know where Glenwood Prep cricket talents Ariq Chetty and Francis Moran are going this year?
@Grasshopper: Dunno boet. The 2 KZN reps from DPHS are the real deal, not off the fringe somewhere.
Don’t remember them putting U13 KZN squads together in my day, but then I did do primary school in a town where the one horse had died.
@Gungets, it seems all the schools are getting KZN reps in all sports, how many are there going around? Jeez, in my day if you had 2 KZN reps in the whole 2nd form year coming in it was considered good. Squads must be getting huge and too many B, C, development, colt whatever you call it teams. I have absolutely no idea what the Glenwood intake is like, only time will tell…
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Nope – never accepted. I spoke to the father (gave him a lift to College – his older lightie is in the same grade as my boy) and he spoke about how hard they were going at recruiting him but it was not on. Spoke to him today – the matter is settled. He will be at College bright and early on Saturday and off to Roselands for the boarder induction.
Hope {snigger} springs eternal for the U14’s – they are a good bunch, but right now they are just a bunch. I hope and trust they will go on to become one the College great 1st Elevens in a couple of years when they forge into the Brotherhood.
Oh and I know exactly which kid you speak of, I did find it strange to see his name there in the 1st place. Maybe he first accepted THEN turned Hilton down. Think College U14 cricket team this year is going to be frikken good specially with those 2 KZN DPHS boys also going there.
@Gungets Tuft:
Maybe so, but there are also kids going there on bursary that are NOT on the list. I know of 3 of them. 2 are. KZN water polo and the other is KZN rugga.
Doesn’t matter though, Hilton don’t care too much about their lower age-groups. Its all about opens there…
@HORSEFLY NO.1: I can tell you that the list advertised is Hilton just hoping. I know one hellova talented kid on the list that will be adding a little Red to the Black and White next year. Magnificent catch for College, joins his brother who is already there.
@Rian: Thanks Rian and welcome. Let me know who you back so I can assign a jersey.
@ beet: Completely off the subject – I haven’t been following the blogs for about 8 months now (since the Rugby365 days) and came across this site quite by accident and I must say I was pleasantly surprised! Great stuff, you’ve converted another follower.
So this could be a long wait for an answer
@beet:
Horseflyno1@gmail.com
@HORSEFLY NO.1: How can I contact you by email.
http://www.hiltoncollege.com/cometohilton/43-marketingannouncements/791-2013-scholarships.html
This list should be revised, not AT ALL accurate!!
I sent emails to Marie Vermaak representing myself as a Glenwood Old Boy, my father as a DHS Old Boy and my uncle as a DHS Old Boy asking about the situation and she diverted my enquiry to Wayne Donkin and Alan Norton. I still have not had a response from them, seems to me that things fall on deaf ears at DHS….
@Greenblooded, what is even funnier is that Kershaw is a DHS Old boy, surely DHS would make time to talk to an Old Boy before making crazy decisions which both sets of Old Boys will not allow to happen….
@greenblooded i will say this again, a meeting took place, it wasnt progressive and DHS took action. Nothing wrong there mate. And do you really think that the thing done was not necesaary? When you speak to someone and they act deaf then you try other means to get them to hear you out
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Nah. I seem to remember that when the story broke here no-one at Glenwood knew a thing about it. In other words DHS took this decision without taking the initial step of trying to engage in dialog with Glenwood i.e. to hear their side of the story – which is very different from that of DHS (note in the article the part that says “Glenwood does not support this view). I wonder what this action taught the DHS boys? If you have an issue with someone it is better to sever ties with them rather than talk things out? Not good mate.
@green i dont know hey. Remember that after the leroux thing the two schools did sit down to talk things through so the meeting obviously wasnt progressive. I think the action they took was necessary and has made Glenwood listen better now. In the end it was effective
I just don’t think DHS set a very good example here. If you have a problem with someone, first step should be to engage with that party and try to speak things through, not take your ball and go home in a huff.
@grasshopper i get that the kids would usually want to go to GWD but trust me its not like that all the time. You speak about how easy it would be but easiness isnt what everyone looks for and what do you mean why GWD would want our plaers? Want a list? You can check with your officials mate
@Beet, agreed!
@Horsie, come on boet take off the blinkers. The Afrikaans kids want to go to Glenwood or a school where there are other Afrikaans speaking kids, it’s only natural (there are over 100 just in the BE). DHS’s demographic does not have a lot of those kids. How do you know for sure that the parents never approached Glenwood. You need to think about all the factors. Really, why would Glenwood want a DHS player when we have been winning most of our games against DHS, it’s more likely the other way around. We have plenty of good flyhalves……however they are not going to say no if they approached them. Sean and Rudi are fluent Afrikaans speakers so maybe the kids want an Afrikaans coach……so many factors here but you and the DHS board seem to think Afrikaans kid goes it automatically means poaching……..jeez…..
I like the idea of the provincial boundary lines being removed. It changes the context of the recruitment debate with regards to what is defined as offsides. Makes it interesting.
DHS and the Border schools dont have the same relationship as they do with Glenwood. Also, we get that some boys have moved one way or the other on their own accord but the problem is mot with them, its with other kids whove been approached without being interested in moving, GWD seem to think they have a right to ALL the Afrikaans kids even the ones who dont want to go there
@rugbyfan: Agreed there the ST Andrew,s /Queens thing has got alot better. Also the issue of bursary must be handled carefully for example there is a kid who lives near East London who has been given a bursary to go to Queens and Selborne were rather upset but it boils down to this his father and grand father are Queens old boys so that is justified.
I think schools need to speak to each other more when these things happen so the answer is just not for the schools to stop playing each other. I think the way the issue was handled between St Andrews/Queens is a good way were any boy taking a bursary at St Andrew,s from Queens would have to pay his first years fees in full which seem to stop the flow of boys from Queens to St Andrews and a lot of tension has disappeared. Also i do know of the issue with the Queens under 16A lock between Grey Bloem and Queens which was sorted out in a fair manner. As far as i am aware what happened was that a Grey Bloem old boy offered Fortuin a busary to attend Grey who then gave Queens the option of doing the same which they did.
Schools must work together with this and not adopt a policy of raping other schools talent.
It does worry me that DHS is playing this card against Glenwood when they are doing the same to some Border schools
This sounds more positive than the doom and gloom over the last few months –
be great if some of the “School” Old boys could be introduced to this site and see and feel the desire for sport contact to go ahead this year – what about the traditions – the ringing of the school bells at night – the “swatting of the flies” and the hectic vibes at the night matches – The “School ” -Glenwood games are only ones the wife and granny come and watch ……….
@Westers: Hey Westers welcome and thanks. You are one of the top bloggers on my wishlist from the R365 site. So glad to see you here.
@beet, Really good site you have created with many interesting articles. Happy to here that communication channels are open between DHS and Glenwood. I hope the fixture is re-established for 2013 for the sake of SBR in KZN. My next hope is that the same thing happens with Westville and Glenwood. It is a tragedy for the boys that this fixture is not scheduled to take place. I don’t know whose call this was and I am not interested in any mudslinging. The issue is the boys on;y have five years of rugby and to miss out on a fixture such as this is not what the boys want.
Keep up the great articles and look forward to agreat year of SBR in 2013.
@Beet, yep there are always two sides to a story. I don’t think Glenwood are completely innocent though. I suspect, they were approached by a few kids wanting to move searching for quicker success and they just offered them what they were getting at their current school plus the opportunity to play some of the best schools in the country, something DHS currently does not offer. Let’s just say if I was an aspiring to be the best rugga player I can be then Glenwood would be the better option over DHS currently. Parents will just do what is best for their sons and will unfortunately look for the best deal. What school would say no to a player like the DHS flyhalf who has moved across…? Anyway, let’s hope it gets sorted asap…….funny it never seems to affect those other schools poaching…..
@Grasshopper: I totally agree Hopper. Systems cannot be so rigid that they start to restrict the constitutional rights of parents to do what they believe is best for their kids. If they don’t like what is happening at a school, I don’t care if their son is the next Dan Carter, the parents have the right to transfer him to another school. If the boy’s on a bursary, then perhaps there needs to be conditions attached or a ethical onus on the parents part to repay the bursary money. Loyalty is a great quality to have but an environment that encourages loyalty must be in place as well – 2-way flow.
The message that has been put out by DHS is one of poaching though. They talk about their top players being targeted. It’s a sensitive matter filled with tension, no doubt Glenwood are feeling frustrated themselves as well. But the good news is it appears that a whole new channel of communication has been opened and by the sounds of things its guys who want the matter sorted out in a fair way that are talking to each other.
Like I said the agreement reached has to be mutually beneficial. We all know, accept and some of us even root for DHS wanting to recover from the spot they are in but at the same time Glenwood can’t exactly be punished for being a success story.
@Beet, good article but there is still something missing here. What about kids who genuinely wanted to move? Anyway, the as I said previously the Old boys from both schools will not allow a non fixture to occur so this will be resolved and fixtures will take place……I’ll eat my hat if they don’t…..that will be some picture…