The evening will take place on 7 March 2017 at Loftus Versfeld Stadium.
| # | TIME | SCHOOL | REGION | SCHOOL | REGION | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 13:00 | Oos-Moot | Bulls | 20-25 | Pretoria BH | Bulls |
| 1 | 14:00 | Pretoria Tech | Bulls | 30-25 | Curro Heuwelkruin | Limpopo Bulls |
| 2 | 15:00 | Ben Vorster | Limpopo Bulls | 10-10 | St. Alban’s | Bulls |
| 3 | 16:00 | Kempton Park | Valke | 10-10 | Goudveld | Griffons |
| 4 | 17:00 | Zwartkop | Bulls | 30-30 | Potch Gim | Leopards |
| 5 | 18:00 | Menlopark | Bulls | 30-30 | Jeppe | Golden Lions |
| 6 | 19:00 | EG Jansen | Valke | 40-10 | Voortrekker Bethlehem | Griffons |
| 7 | 20:00 | Monument | Golden Lions | 30-10 | Welkom Gim | Griffons |
| 8 | 21:00 | Garsfontein | Bulls | 25-05 | Diamantveld | Griquas |
Squads of 26-30 players allowed. No penalty or drop goals allowed.
At 12h00 Midstream u13 vs Curro Heuwelkruin u13
Other schools initially invited but not partaking are as follows:
| SCHOOL | REGION |
|---|---|
| Affies | Bulls |
| Waterkloof | Bulls |
| Grey College | Free State |
| HTS Middelburg | Pumas |
@Vyfster:
@Vyfster: Gelukkig nie te veel in onlangse tye nie. Met twee dogters wat provinsiale hokkie gespeel het, is ek nou min of meer bankrot, en hulle weet dit! Maar dit weerhou ‘n ou nie om beroepsgerigte hulp te verskaf nie, en dit weet hulle ook.
Terloops, Hein Wagner was verlede Saterdag hier. Hy coach nou Paarl Gim se o.14’s, so ek vermoed hy het kom spioeneer. Hoor hoeka hy het ‘n heelagter afgestaan aan ‘n buurskool, maar dit gebeur glo net in Noordvaal!
@ Tzavosky: haha, klink of jou foon al ‘n paar keer deur die jare gelui het as ‘n “random friendly person”…good on you….gelukkig weet hulle ek is ‘n brandarm staatsamptenaar, so hulle is gelukkig genoeg as ek ‘n kaartjie of 3 koop vir hul Buffeljag in Mosambiek of Tanzania or wherever… ek bid maar telkens dat ek nie wen nie….ek het ‘n paranoiese vrees vir darie Anopheles muskiet
@ Playa: You make some excellent points. BTW, if Henry Fords’ grave has been spinning due to all the different colours on his cars, it must be bouncing up and down by now after the Ford Kuga debacle!
@Kattes…dankie, ek vermoed ons gaan maar wisselvallig wees vanjaar. Sterkte vir julle, dit gaan fassinerend wees om te sien wat Boishaai gaan maak vanjaar, julle kan in elk geval baie trots wees
@Vyfster: Dok! Ek is bly jy is weer vanjaar met ons. Geniet jou passievolle bydraes ! Bygesê ! Al die manne van die Laeveld/Pumaland lewer vir my uitstekende positiewe bydraes, sonder n klomp bollie en vragte verskonings, indien dinge nie lekker verloop het op die veld nie. En ja ! Boishaai gaan beslis ook êrens verloor, dit is n feit! Dit kan moontlik sommer vroeg in die seisoen wees , of dalk eers volgende jaar ! Die geskiedenis toon aan dat elke skool, ongeag sy krag oor die jare, die een of ander tyd vasval ! Vir ons ondersteuners , wat nou die golf gery het vir 2 jaar, was dit n ongelooflike reis, maar ons is realisties genoeg om te weet , dat dit nie vir altyd kan duur nie. En wanneer dit gebeur, wil ek glo dat ons die wenspan sal behoorlik eer en lof toesing ! En nee! Ons is geen engeltjies nie ! Ons het ook ons kwota moeilike manne/dames. Die meeste het egter darem goeie sportman gees. Sterkte vir BV ! Ek kyk weer uit vir jul uitslae. !
@Roger: I see your unsullied KES jerseys have been matched at the Wynbeg Festival against the sponsored strip of Bellville HS. Our company has gladly sponsored their jerseys and kit the past four years, so hope the peasants don’t rub off too much. Come to think of it, wear those oversized green wool jerseys, you should fit right in
One can only be either completely ignorant, far removed from reality, a communist, a vegetarian, a lib, or all, or any combination of the aforementioned to whine about logos on jerseys. Back on earth sponsorships are required to keep the wheels turning, to be able to compete, to stay relevant, and with hard work and luck, maybe to excel. Sponsors and logos have fuckall to do with winning, it’s about survival
@Tang: Boys High won it 20-17 – I think it was the last time Boys High beat KES. That 2012 side were unbeatable through the age groups and then lost to Boys High (twice) by 3 points, Affies by 2 points and inexplicably to Jeppe in the last game of the season
@Hooit: hehehehehe – you buggers
@Roger: Do not know how I got dragged in. You must see our star u/14 centre. A one man dreamteam.
@Roger: I don’t recall what happened in the 2012 return fixture other than Marx injuring his shoulder.
PBHS did have the young Ralepele playing in 2012, and he was an underrated player. He scored a memorable
@Roger: The 2012 game was a strange affair. I don’t think anyone from PBHS expected a win on that day.
I am pleased to see Marx, Smith and Brink doing so well. Great guys and a good advert for KES.
@vyfster @tzavosky: I know there are many schools who have the silent sponsorship. Old Boys or current parents pay for less privileged children. In most cases, they cover all the costs (boarding and fees). I am all for this type of sponsorship as many children get to attend schools such as Ben Voster.
actually Marx on the bench ……
@Tang: it will be the Reds’ first game – always a tight affair! I remember in 2012 when PBHS were rank outsiders and they came from nowhere to beat a KES side that included Dylan Smith, Malcolm Marx and Cyle Brink. Those three players are all in the Lions starting XV this weekend!
@Playa: Great points. There is no one size fits all. PBHS are very fortunate to have the numbers.
I wish there could be another model for travel and kit costs. Sponsors will always try and have their logo be the most dominant part of the jersey.
@Roger: Yes, I will be in Houghton on 25 March. I hope Boys High get another game in before the KES fixture as I think KES are going to be excellent this year.
Kudos to KES. It is great to see a fixture when it is only about the school badge and not the other logos.
just as an FYI – KES’s jersey remains unsullied
@Tang: Let’s face it. It is expensive to play the game nowadays. Even for local games – without the tours, especially for small town teams that have to find out of town opposition to get competitive games. In a lot of cases, these games are traditional derbies anyway. We can debate ‘how much’ sponsorship a schoolboy rugby team can have on their jerseys, but it is becoming increasingly difficult for some (a lot) of schools to justify ‘not having one’ at all. In fact you may find that in some, once you take that sponsor away, you would have literally taken the sport away from the school.
Personally, the day sponsors came with performance clauses in SBR would be the day I spit on sponsorships. That for me would be the game changer. But there’s no one size fits all here – PBHS has the numbers, in both fee paying scholars, and affording parents, but that’s not the case for a lot of schools.
I agree with you, it’s not ideal for a SBR jersey to look like the classifieds section of a newspaper. Most of us would rather see our alma mater wearing the good old sponsorless jerseys we wore proudly in our school days.It may disturb some people to see the advertising, but for as long as the boys still clutch onto the school badge when singing the school song/running onto the field/post scoring a try, that shows the jersey means something to them. That is what matters. Wasn’t it Henry Ford who said that his Fords should only be produced in the colour BLACK? He’s probably spinning in his grave seeing all the wonderful colourful colours that it’s made in nowadays, but I don’t think the average Ford fanatic is bothered.
@Tang: looking forward to the 25th by the way – will you be in Houghton to watch? I think it will be a close game!
@Tang: aha – so Boys High have fallen for the filthy lucre at last! Sponsors tags on the famous “candies” – well – hell has just frozen over
@BrotherBear: @Rugbymal: @Hooit: you okes are “mal” – top school in the Northvaal this year KES for sure!!
@beet: Games played at Durbell RFC.
@Vyfster: Yes, it’s true that quite a number of kids are fully sponsored by individual parents, but as these are mostly “silent” sponsorships, it’s hard to tell to what extent this happens, unless you are an insider or very close to management – no one walks around bragging about these things. And let it be said that this does not apply to black kids only – I had it on good record that Trevor Nyakane sponsors a white kid. Who that is, I don’t know and I really don’t care.
What also happens is that a very good player can’t afford the costs to play at some tournament and the school will contact a random “friendly” person and asks whether he would be prepared to contribute a once off sponsorship, which is rarely refused and never spoken about. I know!
Regarding the sponsors’ logos on the jerseys, I had a look and there is really only one big logo, on the front of the jersey. That space used to be reserved for Mr Price (which in all reality was only a jersey sponsor as far as I know), but I notice that they are gone now. So it’s just another name on the horisontal white strip where “Mr Price” would have been printed.
@Tang: yeah, i would also prefer less logo’s etc….in answer,logically Ben Vorster must attract the most sponsorship because they are the most attractive rugby “brand” in the country…hie-hie….same as AB de Villiers have more sponsors than say Stephen Cook.
On a more serious note, people must realise that about 40% of the school is black learners, with some very good athletes and rugby players among them, but most just normal kids who happens to live in catchment area. There are only 1 other high school about 10 km out of town…. so those kids living in or near town goes to BV, irrespective if they can afford any school fees at all….according to law, no child might be refused on that grounds, so a good percentage of the learners pay no school fees at all.
So the problem is not bursaries at BV, but a high % of non fee paying learners, which has to be helped…that is why they have to accept as many sponsorship’s as possible to afford all the activities at school.
Another fairly unique situation has developed there. I think Tzavosky will be able to tell you about many black learners that are being “sponsored” by individuals, usually other parents of previous advantaged background who pay everything for that particular child…..often extending even into paying for university studies. There are many such heartwarming stories, I am sure it happens in other schools as well, but that stories never gets told.
It is a pity, because it shows another side of SA, not the shenanigans of politicians who likes to maintain a facade of racial polarization for their own nefarious ends….but the real SA, where common people do extraordinary things….and gives me, like @ Vleis, hope for the future
@beet: I think this is where Boys High have a slight edge. Since there are no bursaries to fund, there seems to be sufficient money for travel (local fixtures). Parents pay for travel to Maritzburg College and other out of province trips. Parents also fund the costs of festivals and kit.
As you may know, some boys have Allan Gray bursaries. I believe Allan Gray covers the cost of their sports travel and all kit. The Allan Gray bursaries are for boys who would not otherwise be able to attend schools such as PBHS.
If PBHS had to fund bursaries, I think there would be less for local travel.
I believe many schools have special fundraisers for the first rugby team. I guess the alternative is to go for sponsors.
Schools that offer many bursaries must be under constant pressure to raise funds. It also raises the question of sustainability. How do bursary heavy schools sustain the level of investment? They have to consistently perform to attract the right candidates and make sure the old boys will keep investing. I believe this is where the win at all cost mentality takes root. Winning becomes a necessity not a nicety.
@Tang: Not many schools are in the privileged position of PBHS but it would still be an interesting exercise to see how much extra money Boys High has in their budget to contribute towards travel costs etc as a result of not being burdened with covering sports bursaries.
If say 10 boarders per grade are on an average of 50% bursaries of full school fees + BE normally totaling R80,000pa, that’s R2,000,000pa.
@Vyfster: PBHS were not playing in the official first team kit against Oos-Moot. On the PBHS clothing, you will see a small Canterbury logo on the jersey and shorts.
@Vyfster: I am a purist at heart. I know funding is required for transport, kit, etc. I just wish the sponsors would not taint the school jersey. Why can’t the logos be smaller than the school badge?
@CharlesZA: Thanks. I thought Somerset College were the hosts?
@jakes: self esteem an issue ? – your comment is quite typical. If you want to extrapolate a view, feel free. Hopefully teams learn from what they experienced (good and bad). The application of these learnings may see them perform better or worse in future. My advice to you would be: “believe you can succeed, and you might just get there”.
Note: see the bit of sarcasm as depicting “S F C”.
@beet: Last I heard Kasselsvlei still playing. Somerset College pulled out against our second XV.
here, for interest, is a link to the bulls official FB page with 35 photos of the BV St Albans game. web.facebook.com/BullsOfficial/posts/1351938461531233 If you look at all the photo’s and yerseys, it is clear tha t there is a bit of exaggeration, though there are far more than in the past, where only Mr Price was plastered across most school yerseys…..lol…do i detetect a hint of superiority because of PTA BH’s unsullied yerseys? easy if you have 1500 fee paying scholars, not so easy if you have maybe 400 paying full fees
@ Tang: just for perspective and the distance their first team travels per bus to away games…let’s use 2016 as example
1 Potch Gim at Loftus PTA 750 km round trip
2 Oos Moot PTA (game was cancelled due to fatal accident 04:00 0n morming by one of the other buses , but they did travel all the way, 750 km
3 KES easter festival 870 km
4 Jeppe (Ellis Park JHb) 870 km
5 Klein Karoo festival Oudsthoorn 3000 km
6 Frikkie Meyer Thabazimbi 800 km
7 Pietersburg @x away 200 x2 400 km
8 Transvalia VanderBijlpark 975 km
9 Ligbron Ermelo 800 km
Total bus driving = 9185 km for season’s away games, add to that most players played Craven week which added close yo 4000 kms to driving to Stellenbosch, sevens tournaments in Durban and other places which added another couple of thousand,as well as provincial practices at Polokwane adding another thousand or 2 …..all in all they spend every year between 15 000 and 20 000 km in a bus to play rugby
It will be interesting to hear what other schools distance’s are, surely schools like Diamantveld, Grey College etc also spend massive amounts of km’s on the road, would be interesting to hear which school travels the most during a season.
But surely you can appreciate, that for such a small rural school, sponsorships are needed to help finance the travel and accommodation cost’s
@beet:Don’t know…doesn’t matter, as long as we get some schoolboy rugby going down here. Do think that Kasselsvlei would have provided stronger opposition.
@HE: Thank you. I’ve heard that Bellville South has stepped in to replace Kasselvlei?
@beet: Warmup, but a proper game as far as I’m aware. Definitely not a shortened game. All age group A teams also playing.
@BrotherBear: Diego is nog /17 hierdie jaar en in Gr11 maar hy sal vanjaar die tonge laat klap met sy spel, beide op aanval en verdediging.
After two weeks of schoolboyrugby there are some Rugbymal Brotherbears who already predicts the finals in months from now and predict doom and gloom for other teams..eish they still have a lot to learn about the unpredictabality of schoolboy rugby.
@Tang: I think Affies is perhaps setting a new trend if it comes to sponsorship logo’s this year. They have two main sponsor “Wildswinkel” and Morgan Beef and their logo’s is very discrete in the middel and back of the jersey (you may have a look at it on Klub 600’s facebook page).It appears that Wildswinkel and Morgan Beef is a very good fit on Die Plaas
@tzavosky: From the bit that I’ve read about Ben Vorster, I think that it’s a school that has done a fantastic job with limited resources. Indeed, it’s a school (like Jeppe) that improves my hopes for the future of our country. I’ve repeated your comments re Trevor Nyakane’s activities (e.g. fb friending BV scholars, etc) to various mates over a few beers more than once.
That said, I was, of course, hoping that my son’s old school would beat BV yesterday! Good luck for the rest of the season. I hope to see BV play if I make it to the KES festival.
@beet, @AbsolutMenlo, @tzavosky: I agree fully with kit sponsorships and even sponsorships to help fund travel. My problem is how the logos have taken over the jersey. I looked through the BB FB page, and I was stunned at how the logos dominate the jersey. It is difficult to even see the school logo on the jersey.
I know it is difficult and expensive to travel but why does this mean the sponsor can take over the jersey?
Having funded my sons through PBHS, I know how expensive it is to buy the kit and other related expenses. I just think the sponsors can minimise the size of the logos.
@Tang: Beet explained it sufficiently – your boys could probably just have walked over to Loftus yesterday, ours had to travel 350km to get there. Also, we’ve learned that the travelling take a lot out of the boys (especially when they leave here at 03:00 in the morning, which wasn’t the case yesterday), so they often travel the day before and have to sleep over somewhere, which adds to the costs. You may also have noticed the composition of the team, with quite a number of POC’s – many of them come from the surrounding rural area with very little if any financial support.
Of course, a pro team would have one big sponsor like, say, CellC, so there is no need for any additional logos, but there aren’t any big corporations in Tzaneen, so the sponsors are mostly small to medium size businesses (often owned by a parent anyway) pooling resources. And BV is not the only school in Tzaneen, not even the only HS, so there is a dilution effect as well.
You probably don’t realise how much money comes directly from parents’ pockets either, but you could walk over to Loftus and enquire from Trevor Nyakane how it all came about – I’m sure he will give an honest answer.
Cheers!
@BrotherBear: Sorry i forgot to say thanks for that feedback on last nights games. Always good to read about the action on the field of play.
@Rugbymal: transvalia can be an opponent during “beeld”.
@Tang: Tang personally I think there’s a good fight when trying to ensure schools uphold wholesome values but this issue of sponsorship can still fit comfortably into that ethos. I just heard the the other day of a Durban school’s parents being asked to fork out a ridiculous sum of money per player for a short Easter tour to George. If sponsors are there to help offset those costs in the interests of keeping cross-provincial boundaries school rugby flourishing then thumbs up, lets welcome them and support them. Ben Vorster for example is a school based in Tzaneen. Bussing their kids around to play competitive opponents is a costly affair. If numerous sponsors as opposed to one or none help fit the bill, is it an evil?
Perhaps a different case if the sponsor is out there branding players their funds helped poach but I doubt any business would see the exposure benefits of their names being attached to those kind of practices.
@Tang: …rather concentrate on the rugby all schools and specifically the players are proud of their jerseys and thankful for the sponsors.
@Vyfster: How did Ben Voster manage to get so many sponsors on one jersey? I have seen pro sides with less advertising.
Geluk Bulle, lekker skole kompetisie vir die tyd van die jaar! Skole steek lekker weg!
@BrotherBear: Tnx for the summary for us that were not able to attend.
Think its still early days. Prediction from my side for Northvaal is a Garsies vs Monnas final in Tuks and Macro Virseker competition.
Menlo is as far as my info is a very young team. The Jeppe team and correct me if I am wrong comes froma very good age group coming through.
EG along the grapevine is not going to feature very high on the rankings this year. Rumor is that there is lots of issues at the school.
Kempton same story cant see them featuring anywhere this year.
Was very surprised with the Nellies / Middelburg result.
@BrotherBear: Do you guys play Transvalia somewhere?
@BrotherBear: I did not attend. Just got some feedback, not as detailed but in general,and your feedback seems spot on about Monnas.
@beet: winning teams played very good rugby in last 3 games. Garsies really on fire with very exciting backs. 9 and 10 providing lots of spark and Diego Appollis (13) man of match. Both teams defended very well and Diamantveld had ample opportunities, so they must not be underestimated.
Monnas played a psyched up Gimmies team that provided good opposition, but could not sustain the intensity. Morne Brandon (2) MOM. Could see Monnas well prepared with once again 9 & 10 controlling the game. Forwards disappointed me a bit, even with Havenga (u19) in the mix. Backs spreading the ball willingly.
Score flatters EG a bit as the Voortrekker players were passionate but not very skilled and defense was poor. No 10 (Beytel) played well until he injured his shoulder and moved to 15. Baffles the mind why the coaches would keep him on field, with obvious discomfort.
Menlo and Jeppe ran and swung the ball at every opportunity. Quite entertaining rugby albeit a bit unstructured. Do not see them as top Northvaal contenders.
Kempton and Goudveld deserved the low scoring draw result. Nothing to really write home about.
@tzavosky: we are very proud of the passion and leadership that Constant Beckerling ( Helpmekaar 2014) brings to the Wits team. Full squad really doing well, even though they started the year as underdogs.
@CharlesZA: Is the Kasselvlei match on Friday evening a proper game?
@tzavosky: Ek wil nou nie n oorlog begin deur my opinie te gee nie maar ek sou nie vir CB op 10 kies. Dink Duimpie het die hoogste ceiling van die 10s maar sal maar moet sien wat CR maak.
Sjoe a few of the Noordvaal heavyweights flexed their muscles tonight.
I was incorrect when I said Affies are heading to Kimberley when they are in fact playing Diamantveld at Loftus this weekend.I really thought the Diamonds with all their matches under the belt might catch Affies unawares and make them work very hard for a win but judging by the Garsies score I’m not so sure about that now.Affies are playing in Kimberley
@CharlesZA: Gianni bietjie onseker met sy skoppe aanvanklik en sy passing game, maar hoe later hoe kwater; Simelane weer stiller later in die wedstryd. Wits se veggees het my beïndruk.
Maar ek het gesit en wonder, met Gianni en Curwin Bosch albei in die voorlopige o.20 groep, wie gaan waar speel?
@tzavosky: Was nie rugby game nie. Die arme seuns wat op tv so n pakslae moes kry sal dit seker gou wil vergeet.
Moet se Gianni en Jeppe senter van laas jaar mooi gespeel vir Wits.
@Vyfster: Jip, ek vat 4 gelykopuitslae enige dag bo ‘n 100-0 Varsitycup wedstryd…
EG and Monnas didn’t get the memo ….EG 40-10 Voortrekker Bethlehem and Monnas 30-10 Welkom Gim.
But first 6 games really well matched.
Tradionally a bet on a draw in pro rugby will give you roughly R20 for every R1 thus about 5% chance of a draw or 1 in 20 chance…..2 consecutive draws 1 in 400, 3 in a row 1 in 8000, 4 in a row 1 in 160 000 chance.
We just witnessed an amazing occurrence , 4 draws in a row….you will never again in your life see 4 consecutive 1st teams games at a festival ending in a draw, I know that the format of no kicking makes it more likely, but it remains a 1 in 100 000 ocurrence, at least…..so yeah, well done to the organisers
@Vleis: No kicking allowed. Monnas beat Welkom Gim 30 – 10.
Congrats to the organisers, as there have been two five point games and then four draws in a row….so far. It sounds like there was no kicking, but that is nevertheless six very tight games.
@Beet @tang is correct PBHS 25-20 Oos-Moot
@Tang: I am not at Loftus. Getting scores from people who are there
Hooit: I am pleased you can tell that is Goudveld vs Kempton. Go and take a look at the Blue Bulls FB page and let me know how you can make out school boy teams from the photos.
There was a game after Kempton vs Goudveld. All I can see is Kumani Country Lodge vs Lead Crystal Batteries. They drew 30-30. I presume this was Zwartkop vs Potch Gim.
Goudveld vs Kempton 10 – 10
@beet: Did the organisers get the fixture list right? Just looked on the Blue Bulls Facebook page and there was a game between Thepa Trading and Manitou Group. Manitou Group also had Dischem badges on the sleeve. Final score between Thepa Trading and Manitou Group was 10 – 10.
@beet: This is unofficial; PBHS 25 VS Oos-Moot 20. Needs to be verified.
@Hooit: mmmm! Zwartkop vs Potch Gim???
Boys High also have quite a few returners, so might fancy their chances against Oos-Moot but early days and PBHS don’t have a match this Sat so they probably don’t have to be at the a high level of readiness yet.
Also a golden oppo for Affies to gain intel on Diamantveld ahead of the weekend. Diamantveld has a few games under the belt. Hard to say if AHS enjoys Kimberley or not. They’ve tasted success at WK but did come unstuck vs Noord-Kaap in an inter-schools a few years ago.
Net om die tikwerk min te hou. Al die spanne wat 1ste genoem word op die program gaan wen.
@Laevelder: Die kennisgewing is te kort, ek het reeds verpligtinge.
@Valkie: Jannie Putter, die Lions se mind coach het more oggend n ontbyt en talk by Church Unlimited Nelspruit.. toegang is gratis hoor ek so bring jouself en jou bulle : 6.30am tot 8.00 am (hul sal seker bietjie later skooltoe moet gaan ). Was by sy vorige een daar.. baie goed
@Skopgraaf243: Kan jy ons dalk bietjie terugvoering gee oor gister se ‘super interhoër’, want ek niks nêrens oor dit nie?
@Sewes…ek stem, dis verseker opwaarts as jy na hulle beeld uitslae ook in ag neem.
Sal maar sien hoe gaan dit komende naweek en of watter span se fiksheid gaan hou.
@Skopgraaf:Ek hoor wat jy se maar wat ek eindelik bedoed is dat hulle rugby n opwaartse kurwe toon veral as n groot skool ;om saam met die makro skole kers vas te hou is n ander storie.
Sewes…Transvalia het as volg in Tuks reeks 2016 geeindig:
U18 – 10
U16 – 5
U15 – 4
U14 – 5
Ek glo mens kan nooit jou opponent onderskat nie, maar ek dink enigste span wat regtig al gewys het was die jaar se u16’s van Transvalia.
Hulle is ‘n bulspan en het van u14 af gewys hulle kan. U14 was hulle Tuks reeks finaal saam Klerksdorp.
Goeie lopie 2015 vir hulle:
Wen 19-17 Monnas
Wen 18-12 EG Jansen
Wen 55-0 Centurion
Wen 25-3 HTS Middelburg
Wen 33-15 Pietersburg
Verloor in finaal 6-10 Klerksdorp
Hulle enigste games wat hulle in 2016 Tuks reeks U15 verloor het:
22-20 teen Monnas verloor, 17-12 teen Menlopark en 17-15 teen Klerksdorp.
@Vyfster:Dit behhoort n harde game te wees want dis nog vroeg in die seisoen en rugby is moeilik op daai vierkantige veld of is dit net n optiese illusie.Wat transvalia betref is jy in die kol veral die jaar se o/15 hoor hulle het van volkskool n man of twee by gekry wat self n goeie span is of was volkskool het in die een game met n punt verloor maar verder in die play offs hulle het ook aan affies een afgestaan.
@Sewes: janee, sien uit na lekker seisoen…as Beet reg is speel Kloof en BV die saterdag op KES teen mekaar, behoort aanskoulike wedstryd te wees. Maar ek dink Kloof sal waarskynlik wen.
@Vleis: I really don’t know,I think BV will field a decent enough 1st team, but I don’t expect miracles….their head coach for many years as well as their manager left for greener pastures, so we will have to see how the new coaching team shape up….a big part of their succes was due to the previous coaching team.
At first team level, Helpmekaar should dominate the big school league…I also don’t think there is a macro school that will beat them ( like last year where they beat Garsies x2, Monnas, Kloof etc) their matric group is very strong…having said that, BV u16 beat Helpies last year, so maybe their backup and lack of depth might count against them. I still believe they should finish top 5 this year and retain the Virseker trophy.
The team that needs watching, especially from next year is Transvalia (IMHO). Last year their u14’s and u16s won Beeld, whilst their u15s lost by 4 in final to Helpies.
At least BV 1sts beat them last year in Beeld QF but it seems there are some strong teams coming trough, and i expect big things from them in the next 3 or 4 years.
I see their u15, u16 and 1st team already beat HTS Middelburg, the juniors with big scores…..so anybody playing against them….beware. Ironically they play Menlo first up in Tuks series, the other school which age group teams were very strong last year.
Anyway, good luck to all the players and teams, especially Ben Vorster…gonna be very interesting year also between the real big dogs, will be fascinating to see who will break Boishaai’s winning streak, surely it will be broken this year???
@McCulleys Workshop: Howzit. I’m not close to Saints, but I think that they will have a reasonable team this year – certainly better than recent years. The current g12s and g11s had good u16 seasons, plus it appears that they put all the u17 back-line players into the 2nd team about half way through 2016. From that point onwards, the 2nd team won all their games – some by large margins. So, they should have developed cohesion and confidence. On the other hand, I expected the 2016 team to be a bit better than it was…so we’ll need to wait and see.
@Vleis: Hi Vleis, do St. Stithians have a good side this year? I know their age group sides have been good over the last year or two. I see House is up against them on the Saturday of the festival.
@tzavosky: @Vyfster: How is the BV 1st team expected to perform in 2017, as good as 2016?
@tzavosky: Well that’s two bits of good news in one comment
Your contributions and interesting snips of info are always appreciated.
Vyfster is definitely a passionate old boy. I really thought he must be a parent.
@beet: Vyfster didn’t have kids in BV last year, he’s just a passionate oldboy (living in Witbank). I’m the one who “finished school”, albeit only girls for the last 7 years, but I’ll be around!
@Skopgraaf243: Is eers Woensdag in Orkney. Super inter
@Hooit…wat het by julle inter hoër gebeur
@Hooit…Sal so maak.
Enjoy it. Some feedback on the Monnas side will be appreciated. Unfortunately I am missing their first 2 games.
Hooit…yes im going.
@Hooit: Looking forward! … will be nice to sea the early form of the teams involved.
Anybody attending this evening next week. I have to work.
@sewes: I wonder if we’ll see Vyfster back this year? It’s not unusual for parents to move on once their kids matriculate. I enjoyed his comments so hopefully we get a good sub in for 2017, if he feels his interest in what goes on here is up.
@Vyfster:Wel gedaan ek dink daar is min indien eenige wat julle kan na doen veral vir so klein skool soos Ben Voster,maar hoe lyk jul spanne vir die jaar en wat van n Kloof-Voster game by KES.Weet hulle wou al laas jaar iets reel maar die afstand bly n probleem.
Have anybody got the schedule for simular Newlands day 28th March
@oppimoot: Thank you. I will add it a bit later on today.
@Beet. Ek verstaan daar is ‘n wedstryd tussen Oos-Moot en Pretoria Boys High om 13:00 ook bygesit.
@Vyfster: Die storie van daai wedstryd: Een span kon nie verdedig teen die kragspel van die ander span se voorspelers nie; die ander span kon nie verdedig teen die vlugvoetige agterspel van hulle opponente nie.
@ Vyfster, sien uit om Vossies te besoek Sat 4 Mrt 2017. Was Junie by Vossies vir n krieketweek & wat n pragtige skool
, vd stadjapies sien uit na die trip 
B.t.w…..nobody has come up with an answer to my question posed more than a year ago…..poor form indeed for a site with so many SBR rugby experts who claim to know all stats re SBR!…lol
So i’ll repeat it…in 2015 BV and Pietersburg 1st teams played to an (i think) 48-48 draw in hulle liga wedstryd. Vir my is so ‘n telling ongehoord, en sekerlik uniek dat 96 punte nie die 2 spanne kon skei nie.
My instink en logika se dat daar nog nooit ‘n 1ste span skole wedstryd was met ‘n groter gelykop uitslag nie…..for fun, does anybody if there was a higher drawn score ever in the history of 1st xv SBR worldwide….i doubt it very much, would be interesting if someone can come up with an answer
Ja, dit is goeie opwarmings wedstryde.
Ben Vorster het vanjaar vir Potch Gimmies daar gespeel en 30-5 gewen, alhoewel die telling nie vangroot belang is nie, en glad nie pale toe geskop word nie.
Dit is wel ‘n groot geleentheid vir die spanne om op ‘n stadium soos Loftus te speel, en hul sal dit natuurlik altyd onthou.
Nou vir my trivia vraag….’n klein plattelandse skooltjie soos Ben Vorster het vanjaar op Loftus gespeel, en ruk daarna op Ellispark (ieen Jeppe as voorwedstryd vir Stormers/Leeus se Superwedstryd)
Dan het hul span ook al paar keer op die Peter Mokaba stadium in Polokwane gespeel, aangesien dit soms gebruik word vir Limpopo finale, en het hulle ook al in die Royal Bafokeng stadium buite Rustenburg gespeel (al was dit nou in 7’s formaat)
This means 4 World Cup Soccer venues, as well as 3 Rugby test venues….not bad.
Are there any other school in the country (or the world for that matter), whose current players can say they have played for their school in 4 official World Cup soccer stadiums?
Would be interesting to hear if anyone else can match that….lol
@BoishaaiPa: Its all it is. Pophuisrugby om spanne reg te kry, fiksheidstoetse te doen, maar groot pret vir die toeskouer…en BBRU kry geleentheid om sy Unie te verkoop. Wie weet dalk is T20 Rugby die toekoms
@Speartackle: Toti Day…or Totti Day?
@Valkie: Sommer in Afrikaans wie eet kalkoen in SA. Skaap, bees en of varkboud dalk en altyd iets iewers gebraai op Kersdag.
@Hooit: They told you a lie, don’t trust them if they say they will all share only a turkey drumstick on Christmas Day….
There are plenty of Blue Bulls supporters in and around Nellies. However I must confess all the teams have a good following here as well, especially the Cheeters …….
@Valkie: I have heard from my suster in law’s niece who asked her uncle in Cape Town who confirmwf with his stepson in Ermelo that Nelspruit was not invited as there are almost no Blue Bulls supporters in Nelspruit.
@beet: I agree with you. To confirm what you are saying is that the Blue Bulls in fact contracted two of our players from this year’s 1st team and it was done under the radar. So yeah, if you are good enough you will be noticed.
I also notice that some of the teams have either declined of withdrew from the festival. Wonder why?
This looks more like a recruitment drive than a festival for Bulls schools!
Well done to the Blue Bulls rugby union…Looking forward to great rugby day ..
The fixtures look to have been finalised so I’ve added them above.
@tzavosky: Yeah I think everyone is following the WP Newlands lead. The day definitely serves a dual purpose. Based on the feedback from other parents who’s kids have had similar big stadium experiences, nothing comes close to the cherished memories created by playing on the field – for many its a one in a lifetime occasion.
@beet: It’s not just a rugby day per se. What they do is appointing two Bulls’ players to each team, who take the players on a tour of the stadium, showing them the facilities, etc.
In the case of BV this year those two players were Trevor Nyakane (for obvious reasons) and RG Snyman (for not so obvious a reason, but I have a hunch).
So I think the idea is to make an impression on young minds to influence their future choice.
@Valkie: If its any consolation, one union that’s done a stand out job of getting around to watching SBR players from all corners of SA over the last 5 years is the Bulls. You can rest assured that Nelspruit is not out of sight nor mind at Loftus. If there are players there worth contracting next year, the Bulls guys have probably seen them play and/or known about them for a few years now.
@Gimoldboy: @beet: @Riempies:
Thing is these schools nominated cover almost all the different provinces, and that is why I find it strange? Maybe I should talk to Puma HQ to give such a ‘peak view’ a thought as well.
Other thing is that there are other good rugby schools from Pretoria not invited, such as Oos-Moot, Eldoraigne and others. Anyway it is just a thought.
@Speartackle: I’m not going to the toilet when you are there
Here on the South Coast every day is Toti Day
@Gimoldboy: I agree. Great day to get a first look at the players and teams. The results don’t matter that much. KZN also enjoying the benefit of something similar in the form of the DHS Rugby Day. Border has Border Rugby Day and it looks like an EP rugby day also being planned for next year.
Die ekwivalent van Nuweland-dag, volgens my ‘n great dag, nie so baie oor die rugby nie, maar wel dat dit gewoonlik die eerste keer is wanneer al die bespiegelinge oor spankeuses duidelik gemaak word en die skoolseuns altyd lekker gees en klipharde ondersteuning bied! Tog een van die dinge wat skolerugby baie uniek maak.
Al enige nuus oor die weergawe in die Kaap?
@Valkie: Neem aan dit is hulle hunting grounds. Vinnig gekyk net twee Lions skole?
@Valkie:
want……..hulle hou van hierdie 20 minute aan n kant geen skop who cares dae
…en hierdie skole is gekies, want……?