Monument against EG Jansen – the battle of the big packs

They are big, they are strong, they are physical and they love to dominate! That’s an adequate description of the two sets of packs that will do battle on Saturday, 21 March 2015 when Monument (Krugersdorp) the Tuks Skole Reeks for Co-ed schools overall winners in 2014 and EG Jansen (Boksburg) the competition’s 1st XV rugby defending champions meet in the eagerly awaited Group-A final round match.

To get an idea of just how big these boys are, the Jansies starting pack will tip the scales at a massive 814kg with an average of 1.89m per player. Monnas are almost as big at a 793kg pack size and 1.91m per forward on average.

Neither team’s talent ends at no.8. In order to achieve the high goals set for themselves, it is essential to have attacking and defensive abilities amongst their backs as well. Here both schools have been working extremely hard to develop backline players and playing patterns that are able to compliment the forward domination by turning possession into points and plugging holes in D when necessary.

This will arguably be the biggest game of the SA schoolboy rugby season to date. The winners will top their group and meet the runner-up of Group-C in one quarterfinal. At this stage that opponent looks likely to be HTS Middelburg. Unbeaten Eldoraigne (Pretoria) leads Group-C and look set to take on the losers of the Monnas-EG clash.

TEAMS:

MONUMENT A/G KG CM EG JANSEN A/G KG CM
1 Nathan McBeth u17 110 189 1 Abraham Baumann u18 108 183
2 Justin Brandon u18 84 180 2 Nico Pepyer u18 95 180
3 CJ Botes u18 109 184 3 Andre van der Merwe u17 111 184
4 Ruan Vermaak u17 110 199 4 Edwin Jansen u18 90 192
5 Reinhardt Nothnagel u18 103 202 5 Hendre Stassen u18 112 201
6 Reyno Potgieter u17 85 184 6 Dillon Robus u18 95 185
7 Thomas Meyer u18 96 195 7 Dylan van der Walt u18 95 192
8 Len Massyn u18 96 192 8 Warren Brits u18 108 194
TOTAL KG /AVG CM 793 191 814 189
9 Franco Tiedt u18 9 Ginter Smuts u17 80 173
10 Xander Kruger u17 10 Xander Crause u18 87 178
11 Arno van der Westhuizen u17 11 Irvin Ali u18 80 180
12 Ernst Beumer u18 12 Erich Cronje u18 90 186
13 Ivan Smit u18 13 Marco Niemandt u18 88 181
14 Elmar du Plessis u18 14 Quinton Beaton u17 80 173
15 Stian Joubert u18 15 David Mostert u18 92 192
16 PJ Botha u17 16 Werner Fourie u17 83 187
17 Coenrad Vrey u17 17 Rehann Baumann u17 103 186
18 MJ Pelser u17 18 Esuan van Niekerk u18 115 180
19 Shawn Coetzee u18 19 Dandre Brand u18 95 192
20 Ruben Gibbs u18 20 Jacques Joubert u18 85 184
21 Cornel Gnade u17 21 Romano Jonkerman u17 65 177
22 Goodman Mkwhanazi u18 22 Franklin -Marc Wagner u17 68 169
23 Dewald Schoeman u17 23 Henry Pike u17 80 182
24 24 Francois du Preez u17 110 192

 

20 Comments

  1. avatar
    #20 SV6

    Sous trein!

    ReplyReply
    19 March, 2015 at 11:08
  2. avatar
    #19 jakes

    Well whatever happens, the Tuks series in 2015 is going to be a tough one for the top 8..I see some brilliant games as from the 1/4 finals..

    ReplyReply
    19 March, 2015 at 10:49
  3. avatar
    #18 Die Ken

    @jakes: with respect to Eldos, the team losing here may have an easier play-off. Die Rooies in a play-off game is always tough as hell

    ReplyReply
    19 March, 2015 at 09:53
  4. avatar
    #17 Rugbyman

    @jakes: indeed u are correct… they will meet again this year no doubt! Just keep in mind that as far as I know the Monnas’ games were stopped well before the final whistle… Having said that, I also think EG has the edge in the backline…

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 18:47
  5. avatar
    #16 Djou

    @Jakes: Can’t compare the scores as some games were stopped early.

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 18:40
  6. avatar
    #15 jakes

    If I compare scores which EGJ and Monnas scored against the same opponents, I see EG Jansen win this one by around 10-15 points..but Monnas have home ground advantage so it could be closer. Remember Saturday’s game will only determine 1 and 2 in their group.. Be aware that these two MIGHT meet each other in the final of the Tuks series again…a loss Saturday will just mean a more difficult path to the final.. but anything can still happen and another team might also rise and play in the finals (Garsfontein, Eldoraigne, Kempies, HTS Middelburg, Nelspruit)Now imagine how big that game will be if EGJ and Monnas were to meet in the final..After the Tuks series Monnas and EGJ will once again play each other in the Beeld trophy in the new league for Macro schools..another competition, which also have finals..So Saturday’s game will not be be the last between the two this year..

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 17:44
  7. avatar
    #14 Muzi

    Warren Brits!!! what on earth where they feeding you at home FFS…. 108kgs and 1.94 :-o 8-O goodness gracious.

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 14:32
  8. avatar
    #13 Muzi

    Damn!!! Monnas ALWAYS produce monster locks that enforcer Ruan Vermaak will grow and extra kilo or two in 2016….Hendre Stassen barring a loss of form or injury should make SA schools he is a bit of of a hot head isn’t he?!?! quality player though he was already in demand last year.

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 14:28
  9. avatar
    #12 Roger

    how big are those Monnas locks – eisch! Ruan Vermaak – U17, 110kg and 1,99m! wtf do they feed these kids!

    in my day 1,95m and 95kg was huge for a lock!

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 13:29
  10. avatar
    #11 beet

    The Monnas pack size has been updated. 793kg and 1.91m avg

    There was a slight error on the data received regarding EG flank Dylan vd Walt, who is 95kg and not 110kg as previously reported. Therefore EG still a massive 814kg

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 12:52
  11. avatar
    #10 kosie

    @TheGoose: At Monnas.

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 11:40
  12. avatar
    #9 TheGoose

    Where is this game being played?

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 11:18
  13. avatar
    #8 Playa

    @valke: …I take that back :mrgreen:

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 11:06
  14. avatar
    #7 valke

    @Playa: If you can not run the 100m in 10.7s ( electronic time ), then you probably still will not make that squad. :wink:

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 10:27
  15. avatar
    #6 Cappie

    Goeie hemel, hierdie kinders is groot! Hopenlik is daar nie baie beserings nie

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 10:20
  16. avatar
    #5 BuffelsCM

    @Tang: @Roger: I know this is not news but it was reported at the time that the Bok team’s forwards after readmission in 1992 weighed the same as the SA Schools’ side’s forwards of 2012.

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 09:40
  17. avatar
    #4 Playa

    If I changed my name to Franklin -Marc Wagner, I could slot into the EG squad :mrgreen:

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 09:18
  18. avatar
    #3 Roger

    Crisis – these guys are huge!

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 08:42
  19. avatar
    #2 Tang

    The weight and size of the packs is truly amazing. EG Jansen have a pack that weighs almost as much as the Lions Super 15 pack.
    The development of school boys (supplements, training programmes, etc) shows no sign of slowing.
    In the 1970’s and 1980’s school boy rugby players at first team level probably had two practices a week and hardly ever hit the gym. Nowdays, most first teams practice every day and the boys are doing pre-season and in-season gym work.

    @Beet – It would be interesting to track the height and weight of school boy teams over time. During the Stormers VS Chiefs clash, I heard a comment about the average weight of the Springbok pack in the 1950’s was 84 kg. There is not one forward in the EG Jansen pack who weighs below 84 kg. It is a sign of the times and the evolution and adaption players have to make to compete at first team level.

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 08:27
  20. avatar
    #1 LAEVELDER

    Monnas met 7

    ReplyReply
    18 March, 2015 at 08:22

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