KZN holds onto the Cup but only just-just
2016– A last minute penalty by College kicker Ruben van Blerk, ensured his team a narrow win against Boys’ High and allowed KZN to draw level with the GEMS on 9.5 points apiece and in so doing retain the Grogper Cup for another year. In spite of their own difficulties in 2016, Pretoria Boys’ High accounted for a big upset when the beat Westville earlier in the season and then came within one play of repeating their 2013 feat which saw the GC going to Gauteng.
# | VENUE | DATE | GEMS | KZN | EVENT | GP | ZN | ||
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1 | Neu | Thu.24Mar | St Alban’s | 35 | 0 | Clifton | St Stithians Fest | 1 | 0 |
2 | Neu | Sat.26Mar | St Stithians | 16 | 17 | DHS | St Stithians Fest | 0 | 1 |
3 | Neu | Sat.26Mar | Pretoria BH | 11 | 17 | Michaelhouse | St Stithians Fest | 0 | 1 |
4 | Neu | Mon.28Mar | Parktown | 17 | 27 | Hilton | St John’s RF | 0 | 1 |
5 | Neu | Mon.28Mar | St Stithians | 46 | 21 | Clifton | St Stithians Fest | 1 | 0 |
6 | Neu | Mon.28Mar | KES | 39 | 24 | Northwood | KES Festival | 1 | 0 |
7 | KZN | Sat.16Apr | Pretoria BH | 11 | 32 | Maritzburg College | 0 | 1 | |
8 | Gau | Sat.16Apr | Parktown | 36 | 24 | Northwood | 1 | 0 | |
9 | KZN | Sat.23Apr | Jeppe | 46 | 14 | Northwood | 1 | 0 | |
10 | Gau | Sat.07May | KES | 32 | 32 | Maritzburg College | 0.5 | 0.5 | |
11 | Gau | Sat.07May | Jeppe | 45 | 14 | Westville | 1 | 0 | |
12 | Gau | Sat.14May | Pretoria BH | 6 | 3 | Westville | 1 | 0 | |
13 | KZN | Sat.28May | St Stithians | 5 | 80 | Kearsney | 0 | 1 | |
14 | KZN | Sat.28May | St John’s | 8 | 19 | Michaelhouse | 0 | 1 | |
15 | Gau | Sat.28May | St David’s | 12 | 29 | St Charles | 0 | 1 | |
16 | Gau | Sat.11Jun | St Benedict’s | 24 | 53 | Kearsney | 0 | 1 | |
17 | Gau | Sat.11Jun | St Alban’s | 36 | 0 | St Charles | 1 | 0 | |
18 | Gau | Sat.11Jun | St David’s | 31 | 12 | Clifton | 1 | 0 | |
19 | Gau | Sat.23Jul | Pretoria BH | 22 | 24 | Maritzburg College | 0 | 1 | |
GROGPER | TOTAL | 9.5 | 9.5 | ||||||
# | VENUE | DATE | GAMS | KZN | EVENT | GP | ZN | ||
1 | Neu | Thu.24Mar | EG Jansen | 13 | 14 | Glenwood | Kearsney ERF | 0 | 1 |
2 | Neu | Sat.26Mar | Eldoraigne | 10 | 13 | Northwood | KES Festival | 0 | 1 |
3 | Neu | Mon.28Mar | EG Jansen | 47 | 8 | Maritzburg College | Kearsney ERF | 1 | 0 |
4 | KZN | Sat.09Apr | Affies | 62 | 0 | Westville | 1 | 0 | |
5 | Gau | Sat.04Jun | Monument | 40 | 15 | Glenwood | 1 | 0 | |
6 | KZN | Sat.23Jul | Affies | 59 | 7 | Maritzburg College | 1 | 0 | |
7 | Gau | Sat.30Jul | Affies | 63 | 0 | Glenwood | 1 | 0 | |
TENGKWA | TOTAAL | 5 | 2 | ||||||
OVERALL | 14.5 | 11.5 |
2015 – Gauteng’s English Medium Schools (GEMS) will face their English Medium counterparts from KwaZulu-Natal no fewer than 28 26* times during 2015.
After 20 games the GEMS found themselves in a rather unfamiliar (very surprising) position of being level with mighty KZN but predictably the wheels fell off soon after that and KZN cruised home setting up a “deja vu” 8-game winning streak in the process.
Footnote: KZN did not win the TENGKWA Cup in 2015
*Bennies cancelled their tour to KZN
# | VENUE | DATE | GEMS | KZN | EVENT | GP | ZN | ||
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1 | Neu | Thu.02Apr | Jeppe | 27 | 24 | St Charles | St John’s Rugby Festival | 1 | 0 |
2 | Neu | Sat.04Apr | St David’s | 10 | 33 | DHS | KES Rugby Festival | 0 | 1 |
3 | Neu | Sat.04Apr | St Benedict’s | 24 | 14 | St Charles | St John’s Rugby Festival | 1 | 0 |
4 | Gau | Sat.04Apr | St John’s | 5 | 27 | Hilton | St John’s Rugby Festival | 0 | 1 |
5 | Neu | Sat.04Apr | St Alban’s | 16 | 34 | Maritzburg College | St Stithians Festival | 0 | 1 |
6 | Gau | Sat.04Apr | St Stithians | 3 | 51 | Michaelhouse | St Stithians Festival | 0 | 1 |
7 | Neu | Mon.06Apr | St Benedict’s | 20 | 34 | Hilton | St John’s Rugby Festival | 0 | 1 |
8 | Gau | Mon.06Apr | St Stithians | 24 | 29 | Clifton | St Stithians Festival | 0 | 1 |
9 | Gau | Sat.18Apr | Jeppe | 29 | 22 | Northwood | 1 | 0 | |
10 | Neu | Sat.25Apr | Pretoria BH | 24 | 17 | DHS | Jeppe 125th | 1 | 0 |
11 | Neu | Sat.25Apr | Parktown | 31 | 38 | Westville | Jeppe 125th | 0 | 1 |
12 | Gau | Sat.25Apr | Jeppe | 21 | 20 | Maritzburg College | Jeppe 125th | 1 | 0 |
13 | Neu | Mon.27Apr | Parktown | 18 | 23 | Maritzburg College | Jeppe 125th | 0 | 1 |
14 | Gau | Mon.27Apr | Jeppe | 27 | 21 | DHS | Jeppe 125th | 1 | 0 |
15 | Neu | Mon.27Apr | KES | 18 | 11 | Westville | Jeppe 125th | 1 | 0 |
16 | KZN | Wed.29Apr | St Benedict’s | X | X | Clifton | Cancelled | 0.5 | 0.5 |
17 | KZN | Fri.01May | St Benedict’s | X | X | Northwood | Cancelled | 0.5 | 0.5 |
18 | KZN | Fri.01May | Jeppe | 27 | 20 | Westville | 1 | 0 | |
19 | Gau | Fri.01May | Pretoria BH | 3 | 25 | Maritzburg College | 0 | 1 | |
20 | KZN | Fri.01May | Parktown | 34 | 10 | St Charles | 1 | 0 | |
21 | KZN | Sun.03May | Parktown | 10 | 19 | Northwood | 0 | 1 | |
22 | KZN | Sat.09May | KES | 33 | 34 | Maritzburg College | 0 | 1 | |
23 | KZN | Sat.16May | Pretoria BH | 0 | 25 | Westville | 0 | 1 | |
24 | Gau | Sat.23May | KES | 12 | 17 | Westville | 0 | 1 | |
25 | Gau | Sat.30May | St Stithians | 10 | 43 | Kearsney | 0 | 1 | |
26 | Gau | Sat.30May | St John’s | 3 | 37 | Michaelhouse | 0 | 1 | |
27 | Gau | Sat.20Jun | St Alban’s | 23 | 26 | St Charles | 0 | 1 | |
28 | KZN | Sat.01Aug | Pretoria BH | 6 | 55 | Maritzburg College | 0 | 1 | |
GROGPER | TOTAL | 10 | 18 | ||||||
# | VENUE | DATE | GAMS | KZN | EVENT | GP | ZN | ||
Neu | Thu.02Apr | Menlopark | 25 | 27 | Westville | Kearsney Easter Rugby Fest | 0 | 1 | |
Neu | Thu.02Apr | Helpmekaar | 19 | 52 | Michaelhouse | St Stithians Festival | 0 | 1 | |
Neu | Mon.06Apr | Menlopark | 23 | 19 | Glenwood | Kearsney Easter Rugby Fest | 1 | 0 | |
Neu | Mon.06Apr | Eldoraigne | 26 | 17 | DHS | KES Rugby Festival | 1 | 0 | |
Gau | Sat.18Apr | Affies | 33 | 10 | Westville | 1 | 0 | ||
Neu | Sat.25Apr | EG Jansen | 33 | 3 | Glenwood | Wildeklawer | 1 | 0 | |
Gau | Sat.16May | Menlopark | X | X | Glenwood | 0.5 | 0.5 | ||
KZN | Sat.06Jun | Monument | 21 | 8 | Glenwood | 1 | 0 | ||
Gau | Sat.25Jul | Affies | 50 | 19 | Maritzburg College | 1 | 0 | ||
KZN | Sat.01Aug | Affies | 22 | 20 | Glenwood | 1 | 0 | ||
TENGKWA | TOTAAL | 7.5 | 2.5 | ||||||
OVERALL | 17.5 | 20.5 |
2014 – aided by a 9-game unbeaten streak KZN crushes the GEMS by 8 points
# | VENUE | DAY | DATE | GEMS | KZN | FEST / COMPO | GP | KN | ||
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1 | Neu | Sat | Sat 29 Mar | Pretoria BH | 39 | 8 | DHS | Grey PE Fest | 1 | 0 |
2 | Neu | Mon | Mon 31 Mar | KES | 20 | 17 | DHS | Grey PE Fest | 1 | 0 |
3 | Neu | Mon | Mon 31 Mar | Pretoria BH | 17 | 21 | Kearsney | Grey PE Fest | 0 | 1 |
4 | Neu | Mon | Mon 31 Mar | Jeppe | 14 | 20 | Glenwood | Grey PE Fest | 0 | 1 |
5 | KZN | Sat | Sat 12 Apr | Pretoria BH | 28 | 42 | Maritzburg College | 0 | 1 | |
6 | Gau | Sat | Sat 19 Apr | St Stithians | 10 | 34 | Hilton | St Stithians | 0 | 1 |
7 | Gau | Mon | Mon 21 Apr | KES | 50 | 15 | Northwood | KES Festival | 1 | 0 |
8 | Gau | Mon | Mon 21 Apr | St John’s | 26 | 13 | St Charles | St John’s | 1 | 0 |
9 | KZN | Sat | Sat 26 Apr | Jeppe | 17 | 31 | Northwood | 0 | 1 | |
10 | KZN | Sat | Sat 26 Apr | Parktown | 8 | 34 | DHS | 0 | 1 | |
11 | KZN | Mon | Mon 28 Apr | Parktown | 18 | 36 | Northwood | 0 | 1 | |
12 | Gau | Sat | Sat 10 May | KES | 25 | 25 | Maritzburg College | 0.5 | 0.5 | |
13 | Gau | Sat | Sat 10 May | Pretoria BH | 5 | 35 | Westville | 0 | 1 | |
14 | KZN | Sat | Sat 24 May | KES | 23 | 34 | Westville | 0 | 1 | |
15 | KZN | Sat | Sat 31 May | St John’s | 10 | 52 | Michaelhouse | 0 | 1 | |
16 | KZN | Sat | Sat 31 May | St Stithians | 19 | 63 | Kearsney | 0 | 1 | |
17 | Gau | Sat | Sat 02 Aug | Pretoria BH | 18 | 35 | Maritzburg College | 0 | 1 | |
347 | 515 | 4.5 | 12.5 |
2013 – Gauteng sneaks home by a single point after Boys High wins on Goldstones
DATE | SCHOOL | SCHOOL | GP | ZN | ||
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16/03/13 | St Davids | 17 | 6 | St Charles | 1 | |
01/04/13 | St Albans | 26 | 25 | Hilton | 1 | |
13/04/13 | Pretoria BH | 25 | 23 | M. College | 1 | |
13/04/13 | Jeppe | 33 | 24 | Northwood | 1 | |
15/04/13 | Northwood | 15 | 11 | St Benedicts | 1 | |
20/04/13 | Westville | 22 | 17 | Pretoria BH | 1 | |
04/05/13 | KES | 16 | 22 | Westville | 1 | |
04/05/13 | Parktown | 33 | 5 | DHS | 1 | |
11/05/13 | St Charles | 16 | 37 | St Albans | 1 | |
18/05/13 | M. College | 30 | 8 | KES | 1 | |
18/05/13 | St Stithians | 0 | 62 | Kearsney | 1 | |
25/05/13 | St Johns | 19 | 55 | Michaelhouse | 1 | |
27/07/13 | M. College | 16 | 30 | Pretoria BH | 1 | |
TOTAL | 7 | 6 |
Oh…and after complaining about the refs in St Alban’s last four games v PBHS, Jeppe, KES and Parktown, it would be remiss of me not to compliment the ref’s performance today. He certainly penalised St Alban’s many times, but they were (in my opinion) valid.
St Alban’s beat St Charles by 36 to 0 and St David’s beat Clifton by 31 to 12, but Kearsney beat Bennies by 51 to 24, so it looks like the Gauteng schools are one up by one with one to go.
What’s the score now 7-6 to GEMS?
Sadly the TengKWA has an error – EGJ is from GP not ZN – and college ate humble pie in that match
@Roger: I have no idea, not seen a newspaper ad (I don’t read papers), so maybe 3 to 6 months? How long did it take to appoint your new guy once Fennel left?
@Grasshopper: how long does that appointment take – will they have to wait for the court case or can they go ahead?
@Roger: Hopefully the new head will be able to convince one of Jeppe, KES or PBHS to play a down the line fixture with Glenwood. We (me) would prefer to win a few games than be pasted by Affies and Grey Bloem every year…
@Rugger fan: so it stands at 4 apiece – and I cant see Northwood beating Jeppe this w/end so the Gauties will be 1 clear before KES College and Jeppe Westville clash on 7 May.
@Grasshopper: not my fault you don’t want to play with us …… “if you want to run with the Big Dogs don’t yap with the puppies”
@Roger: Without Glenwood in the Grogper it’s a false sense of strength for the Gautengalengs…
So a 1 – 1 result for the weekend – College and Parktown both getting wins
right then – lets have a go at this:
St Alban’s Clifton – St Albans
St Stithians DHS – DHS
Pretoria BH Michaelhouse – PBHS
Parktown Hilton – Parktown
St Stithians Clifton – Clifton
KES Northwood – KES
Pretoria BH Maritzburg College – College
Parktown Northwood – Parktown
Jeppe Northwood – Jeppe
KES Maritzburg College – KES
Jeppe Westville – Jeppe
Pretoria BH Westville – PBHS
St Stithians Kearsney – Kearsney
St John’s Michaelhouse – Michaelhouse
St David’s St Charles – St Charles
St Benedict’s Kearsney – Kearsney
St Alban’s St Charles – St Albans
St David’s Clifton – Clifton
Pretoria BH Maritzburg College – PBHS
12-7 to Gauteng
TENGKWA – KZN will see their hind tits properly – 9 duck!
Only 4 of the matches in the Grogper cup in KZN! The rest in Gauteng – even the Neutral matches! Eish!
Looking like a tough TENGKWA too – I’d go with Grogper to KZN – and Tengkwa heading north very convincingly.
@Roger: John Williams also comes to mind!
@Roger:
@Playa: Ian and John McDonald
@Grasshopper: Clutching at straws there Grassy. You know the truth son, you know the truth….as do EG Jansen, Jan v Riebeeck, Waterkloof, etc, etc.
@Grasshopper: One of the most shocking examples for me remains William Small-Smith.
@Vleis: Remember an Afrikaans surname does not equal an Afrikaans speaker and vice versa, John Smit and Juan Smith…
@Vleis:
So far = from the KZN fixture list:
Clifton St Albans
Clifton St Stithians
Clifton t Davids
DHS St Stithians
Hilton Parktown
Kearsney St Stithians
Kearsney St Benedicts
College PBHS
College KES
College PBHS
Michaelhouse St Johns
Northwood KES
Northwood Parktown
Northwood Jeppe
St Charles St Davids
St Charles St Albans
Westville PBHS
Westville Jeppe
@Rugger fan: I’ve just had a look at the various KZN school squads and must suggest that Westville (in addition to Glenwood) and possibly College be excluded from the GROGPER Cup and be included in the TENGKWA Cup.
Please update 2015 – and give us the 2016 fixtures – looking forward to another KZN win in 2016
Beet – please update the final table. Thanks
@Westers: Jeez my so called bankers definately fell out of the bus. Show’s you how much I know about rugby in KZN
Wonder if Bennies took the Gropher Cup into consideration when they cancelled their KZN tour? Dropped the Gauties badly(I had game 16 as a banker-a forsure banker 8) )
PBHS may have a little hiccup this year but we will be back. We have a nice u16 group coming through. The U16A team had a hard fought 10 – 7 win over Maritzburg yesterday.
@beet: Thanks beet!
I gave PBHS a very slim chance today. Seems some drastic intervention is needed there or their rugby will be left behind
@kosie: Damn it! Found out
At least it triggered a memory recall : TengKwa Beker
@beet: Having checked the Tengkwa cup scores, I think you may have made an error in the totals column. EG beat Glenwood but you gave the point to ZN.
Had I not known that you were of impeccable standing, I would have thought that you might have sneaked that one past the vallies!
Gauteg edges one back
The Jeppe 125 this weekend should provide a much clearer idea about the KZN challenge
@Westers: Hi Westers, it is a pity and seems MHS has a pretty short season.
@McCulleys Workshop: And House won well to contribute. Pity Westville are not playing House this year.
@Westers: I think there were 8 games on offer and we lost 2.
@Woltrui: A few of your bankers blew out this weekend.
Well done to the KZN sides bagging points this weekend.
@Tang: Looks like our 9-game streak is over compliments of a late late try by Jeppe. I reckon KZN could win 5 on one day come Saturday.
Gauteng are 1 up after the Jeppe win today.
@Rugger fan: eish, why don’t we just include Grosvenor, Kloof, Hillcrest, Richards Bay, Port Shepstone, Brettenwood, New Forest and others vs JHB teams
As a KZN supporter – not sure I should be pointing out that St Dunstans (Boksburg) beat Scottburgh High this weekend 20 – 8 too? Does thnis count as a Grogper fixture?
@Redblack White: Surely you mean Bowther not Botha
Like Labuschagne, or is it Larbooshane …
My first guard duty during basics was a real eye-opened for this little soutie from Sleep Hollow in the Last Outpost. I checked later to see if the oke had not quoted directly from Mein Kampf.
@Redblack White: Yeah when I read comments like yours it makes me think of the former Free State wicketkeeper Philip Radley. Philip Johannes Lourens Radley.
@Grasshopper: The surname thing is not a done deal – I have met many a Botha who battles with Afrikaans, and likewise with the English surnames. Best one I can remember was back in the day when I was in the defence force – I was just transferred into a unit and was placed on guard duty with a John Wright – being from KZN I thought I cut a lucky break with some English speaking dude – only to get this: “Luister my ou, as jy gaan kom F@#$%N Brits (as in British) praat hier met my dan gaan ons nerens kom nie hoor!” ‘struth – he couldnt speak a word!!!
If Glenwood were in the mix, I would confidently say KZN have the edge but because the Gauties are playing most of the games up at altitude, they are the favourites…
@Woltrui: I actually have game 6 as a banker for KZN. House will be very strong this year. Also be careful of an improving DHS and ” barbarian” Northwood team.
@ Woltrui are those games your bankers? I like your confidence.
Daar is nogal baie boere by Boys High. Soms sit ek langs die veld en wonder hoekom so baie lynstaan oproepe is in afrikaans.
I reckon at least 30% of Boys High pupils have Afrikaans as a first language at home.
@star: Games no 1, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 14, 16, 18 and 26.
@beet: Hiehiehiehie… I forgot about the “school bus rule”!
@Grasshopper: Ja then most of the teams would probably be disqualified
Glenhout or Glenoerwoud hoërskool!
Maybe it shouldn’t be a bus rule, rather a surname rule. If more than 25% of the team have Afrikaans, Dutch or French Hugenot surnames they can’t be considered for the Grogper…..now that would put a cat amongst the pigeons….hahah
@Roger: Well, that takes out Westville too, I couldn’t understand any of the Westville parents at the night league….
@Grasshopper: hoping to keep it that way – English Medium Schools that is
@Woltrui: What a great pass by quarterback Jesse Kriel to his wide-receiver Francois Hougaard that allowed the Bulls to get in for that one touchdown.
@Woltrui: May I remind you that the particular KZN school complied with the very strict “school bus graphic” rule for Grogper Cup eligibility:
none of these words or combination of words appeared on any of their transport vehicles in 2014
hoër , volk, tegniese, landbou, gimnasium (with an “I”), academie, skool, HTS.
@Woltrui: Be a sport and give us your bankers then.
KZN is going to get crushed like the Charkies got crushed on Saturday
“2014….. KZN crush the GEMS by 8 points” Ja ja ja we all know KZN cheated by allowing the Dutch KZN school to participate in the comp 8)
2015: I count 11 bankers for GEMS. Short 3 to take the cup, comfortably. With home town advantage I can’t see us losing this one.
No Glenwood, the cup needs a name change….:-(
@Wyvern – I tend to agree with you. Looks like KZN will easily take this one.
There are a few fixtures that could have a massive outcome on the final result.
KES playing Westville up on the Highveld twice could be significant. Maritzburg College travel to PBHS for the first of the two fixtures this year so this may also have an impact.
By all accounts, Jeppe should be pretty strong this year so they could contribute significantly for Gauteng.
St Benedicts are improving every year and they could be the team that decides who will take the cup.
I would think St Stithians will be much better than last year so they could also add positive contributions for Gauteng.
St Albans are always competitive and again they could add positive contributions for Gauteng.
On the KZN side, I can’t comment on St Charles and Clifton. All the other KZN teams will be tough opponents.
The ultimate winners will probably be decided on one or two key fixtures.
PBHS playing DHS two years in a row. Maybe it should become an annual fixture.
I’d need to call this year in EMS favour given that 20 of the 27 matches will be in Gauteng! But looking forward to watching a few of these matches this year.
@Wyvern: It’s hard to say. If one excludes the games involving the usual high ranked teams playing each other, there are about 12 that the GEMS can win. If they get that right, then they need just 2 wins from KES, Jeppe and PBHS in their games vs Westville and College
I hope i’m wrong but yoh, I can’t see Gauteng coming anywhere near close again this year