Matric Results 2014 – Maths & Physics Distinctions & Varsity Pass Rankings

6 January, 2015 beet General 328

RUGBY SCHOOLS’ RANKINGS FOR MATHS AND PHYSICS DISTINCTIONS (NSC schools + 2 IEB schools):

	SCHOOL	REG	TYPE	STUDENTS	MATHS	PHYSICS	TOTAL	RATING
1	Bishops	WC	NSC	149	80	51	131	44.0%
2	Rondebosch	WC	NSC	151	58	40	98	32.5%
3	Kearsney	KZN	IEB	123	37	26	63	25.6%
4	Michaelhouse	KZN	IEB	115	39	18	57	24.8%
5	SACS	WC	NSC	150	36	33	69	23.0%
6	Affies	NV	NSC	231	55	43	98	21.2%
7	Paul Roos	WC	NSC	224	53	30	83	18.5%
8	Menlopark	NV	NSC	286	52	48	100	17.5%
9	HJS Paarl BH	WC	NSC	177	40	21	61	17.2%
10	Westville	KZN	NSC	266	53	35	88	16.5%
11	Waterkloof	NV	NSC	297	41	42	83	14.0%
12	Boland Landbou	WC	NSC	68	9	9	18	13.2%
13	Paarl Gim	WC	NSC	210	39	16	55	13.1%
14	Nelspruit	NV	NSC	230	30	30	60	13.0%
15	Pretoria BH	NV	NSC	286	39	29	68	11.9%
16	Wynberg	WC	NSC	145	21	13	34	11.7%
17	Selborne	EC	NSC	141	19	13	32	11.3%
18	Grey College	FS	NSC	218	25	22	47	10.8%
19	DHS	KZN	NSC	185	21	18	39	10.5%
20	Garsfontein	NV	NSC	367	38	38	76	10.4%
21	Grey HS	EC	NSC	160	16	16	32	10.0%
22	Outeniqua	WC	NSC	346	43	26	69	10.0%
23	Oakdale	WC	NSC	71	9	5	14	9.9%
24	Eldoraigne	NV	NSC	303	28	30	58	9.6%
25	Centurion	NV	NSC	216	18	18	36	8.3%
26	KES	NV	NSC	204	23	10	33	8.1%
27	Jim Fouche	FS	NSC	202	13	19	32	7.9%
28	HTS Middelburg	NV	NSC	226	16	17	33	7.3%
29	Tygerberg	WC	NSC	167	16	7	23	6.9%
30	Northwood	KZN	NSC	183	10	15	25	6.8%
31	Sentraal	FS	NSC	183	13	11	24	6.6%
32	Monument	NV	NSC	277	20	16	36	6.5%
33	Voortrekker	FS	NSC	149	12	6	18	6.0%
34	Transvalia	NV	NSC	196	12	10	22	5.6%
35	Maritzburg College	KZN	NSC	232	14	11	25	5.4%
36	Glenwood	KZN	NSC	214	12	10	22	5.1%
37	Rustenburg	NV	NSC	270	15	12	27	5.0%
38	Brandwag	EC	NSC	180	11	6	17	4.7%
39	Noord-Kaap	WC	NSC	162	8	6	14	4.3%
40	Kempton Park	NV	NSC	260	10	10	20	3.8%
41	Framesby	EC	NSC	189	7	7	14	3.7%
42	Queen’s	EC	NSC	108	3	4	7	3.2%
43	Drostdy	WC	NSC	140	6	2	8	2.9%
44	Jeppe	NV	NSC	168	3	5	8	2.4%
45	Marlow	EC	NSC	44	1	1	2	2.3%
46	EG Jansen	NV	NSC	193	3	5	8	2.1%
47	Daniel Pienaar	EC	NSC	140	2	2	4	1.4%
48	Dale	EC	NSC	104	1	1	2	1.0%
49	Louis Botha	FS	NSC	176	1	1	2	0.6%

RUGBY SCHOOLS RANKED BY UNIVERSITY PASS (BACHELOR’S DEGREE)
(Registered is the number of students registered for matric exams, Wrote is the number that actually wrote and Max Pass% is the maximum pass rate a school can claim to have achieved based on number of students registered to write matric exams but it is not necessarily the actual pass % of the school)

	SCHOOL	REG	TYPE	REGISTERED	WROTE	MAX PASS%	VARSITY PASS
1	Bishops	WC	NSC	152	149	98,0%	99,33%
2	Kearsney	KZN	IEB	123*	123	100,0%	98,37%
3	Rondebosch	WC	NSC	153	151	98,7%	97,35%
4	Michaelhouse	KZN	IEB	115*	115	100,0%	94,78%
5	SACS	WC	NSC	151	150	99,3%	94,00%
6	Hilton	KZN	IEB	112*	112	100,0%	93,75%
7	HJS Paarl BH	WC	NSC	180	177	98,3%	90,96%
8	Wynberg	WC	NSC	147	145	98,6%	90,34%
9	Maritzburg College	KZN	NSC	235	232	98,7%	90,09%
10	Paul Roos	WC	NSC	229	224	97,8%	89,29%
11	Grey HS	EC	NSC	160	160	100,0%	88,75%
12	Affies	NV	NSC	233	231	99,1%	88,74%
13	Boland Landbou	WC	NSC	69	68	98,6%	88,24%
14	Paarl Gim	WC	NSC	213	210	98,6%	88,10%
15	Menlopark	NV	NSC	288	286	99,3%	87,76%
16	Westville	KZN	NSC	271	266	98,2%	87,22%
17	Waterkloof	NV	NSC	297	297	100,0%	86,87%
18	Outeniqua	WC	NSC	348	346	99,4%	86,42%
19	Pretoria BH	NV	NSC	293	286	97,6%	86,36%
20	KES	NV	NSC	205	204	99,5%	85,78%
21	Selborne	EC	NSC	142	141	99,3%	80,14%
22	Grey College	FS	NSC	223	218	97,8%	78,90%
23	Jim Fouche	FS	NSC	202	202	100,0%	77,72%
24	Northwood	KZN	NSC	196	183	93,4%	77,60%
25	Centurion	NV	NSC	218	216	99,1%	76,85%
26	Nelspruit	NV	NSC	231	230	99,6%	76,52%
27	Eldoraigne	NV	NSC	305	303	99,3%	76,24%
28	DHS	KZN	NSC	197	185	93,9%	75,68%
29	Sentraal	FS	NSC	188	183	97,3%	74,86%
30	Garsfontein	NV	NSC	368	367	99,7%	74,39%
31	Monument	NV	NSC	279	277	99,3%	72,20%
32	Transvalia	NV	NSC	200	196	98,0%	71,94%
33	Rustenburg	NV	NSC	274	270	98,5%	71,48%
34	Glenwood	KZN	NSC	237	214	90,3%	71,03%
35	Queen’s	EC	NSC	109	108	99,1%	70,37%
36	Nico Malan	EC	NSC	152	150	98,7%	70,00%
37	Oakdale	WC	NSC	71	71	100,0%	69,01%
38	Framesby	EC	NSC	192	189	98,4%	67,72%
39	Brandwag	EC	NSC	183	180	98,4%	66,67%
40	Louis Botha	FS	NSC	225	176	78,2%	65,91%
41	Voortrekker	FS	NSC	150	149	99,3%	64,43%
42	Jeppe	NV	NSC	170	168	98,8%	63,10%
43	Tygerberg	WC	NSC	171	167	97,7%	61,68%
44	EG Jansen	NV	NSC	199	193	97,0%	59,59%
45	Noord-Kaap	WC	NSC	169	162	95,9%	58,64%
46	HTS Middelburg	NV	NSC	231	226	97,8%	53,98%
47	Daniel Pienaar	EC	NSC	151	140	92,7%	53,57%
48	Kempton Park	NV	NSC	276	260	94,2%	52,69%
49	Drostdy	WC	NSC	143	140	97,9%	52,14%
50	Marlow	EC	NSC	45	44	97,8%	50,00%
51	Dale	EC	NSC	115	104	90,4%	46,15%

* number registered to write exams cannot be independently verified.

A few top rugby players have done exceptionally well. Examples are Lions Craven Week player Constant Bekkerling of Helpmekaar got 7 A’s while Grey PE and EP Craven Week captain Johann van Niekerk earned 6 A’s. Amazing stuff!

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#328 Cappie

Bishops is nie net ‘n akademiese skool nie. Hierdie video is een van die bestes wat ooit gemaak is van skolerugby.

http://www.schoolsportsnews.co.za/rugby/video-kings-of-running-rugby/

Baie geluk met uitstaande vervaardiging. Wie is die skool met die wit en blou streeptrui teen wie Bishops so baie drieë druk?

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22 January, 2015 at 12:12
#327 Gungets Tuft

@GreenBlooded: A day boy head boy is very rare, it is an indication of how much that boy has integrated himself into all affairs of the school. Bryce Tullis is one of those. I am not sure whether moving into Numzaans Khaya is mandatory but given the duties he will perform I would guess it would be wise, or his folks are going to be doing a lot of lifting.

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18 January, 2015 at 19:36
#326 beet

@kosie: Yeah it is interesting. Eldoraigne is massive school with 1600+ kids so 2 leaders is justifiable but great that they can move forward towards a point where one student gets appointed to the single top position based on leadership qualities.

When I go to schools to watch rugby games I usually find out who the headboy during the first visit. He is very much the external leader or face of the school like a public figure whereas the other prefects are internal.

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18 January, 2015 at 19:08
#325 GreenBlooded

@beet: No requirement for the HB to be a boarder. In my matric year the HB was a day boy from Toti.

The HB of College this year is also a day boy – apparently it doesn’t happen very often – but I think he has to move into Numzaan’s Khaya for the year (that is the Head Prefects House on the campus). GT will correct me if I’m wrong.

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18 January, 2015 at 18:59
#324 beet

@Gungets Tuft: When I was at Kearsney it was an 80% full boarding school with the head boy as head of the prefects but not a head of a boarding house. So just like in MCs case it seems like HB’s responsibilities do not include the daily BE leadership aspect.

I assume that at College the HB has to be a boarder?

@anyboy: What is the requirement at Gwd?

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18 January, 2015 at 18:55
#323 Gungets Tuft

@beet: I expected it’s influenced by whether the school has a BE. If it does then the HG and HB makes sense due to the boarding leadership needed. College has a HB and 4 “deputies”. In 2015 it is HB, head of Clark House, head of Hudson House, head of Nathan’s, head of Day Boys.

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18 January, 2015 at 18:41
#322 kosie

@beet: You are right and my view is exactly the same. Eldoraigne has moved forward slightly in this regard and chooses a chairperson of the leaders almost like a super head. In 2014 is was a girl just for the record

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18 January, 2015 at 18:34
#321 beet

@kosie: I’ve asked a few co-ed school officials this before and the looks I get back before words come out the mouth tell me the answer right away but here it goes again: haven’t we reached a time for co-ed schools to now look past the gender and appoint just one school leader either a headboy or headgirl and then structure the rest of their leadership around that choice?

PS the answers I’ve got suggest that I need to understand the dynamics of a co-ed school better to properly understand why it’s necessary to have both a HB and HG.

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18 January, 2015 at 18:03
#320 CyndiAtRugby

There have been 2 deputies since I have been involved in the school – 2011 – not sure what happened before that

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18 January, 2015 at 16:19
#319 GreenBlooded

@Grasshopper: Not so sure about that. In my 2nd form year there were 2 deputy HB’s (Fred Swanepoel and Peter Balfour if memory serves) but only 1 for the next 4 years. I think they appoint 2 when there are 2 deserving candidates and 1 when there isn’t. Unless things have changed between my era and yours.

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18 January, 2015 at 14:55
#318 kosie

@Grasshopper: Slightly off the point but Eldoraigne has 4 Deputy Head Boys and 4 Deputy Head Girls which together with the HB and HG make a total of 10 head prefects. It seems excessive if I compare to when I was at school.

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18 January, 2015 at 11:55
#317 beet

@Grasshopper: Cutting in Gr.10 would mean losing 2 years of school fees. More likely to be Gr.12 just before final exams if anything.

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18 January, 2015 at 11:50
#316 Grasshopper

@beet: haha, I agree 100% pass means nothing, most privates cut the ‘dead wood’ in grade 10 to protect that stat. Two deputies, always has been the case. About 20 to 24 prefects.

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18 January, 2015 at 10:38
#315 beet

@Grasshopper: How many deputy head prefects does Glenwood appoint every year? Both Jaco and Kevin were deputy HB according to the article but maybe a mistake.

The 100% pass rate stat just seems so overrated. It must surely only be of relevance to parents anywhere in SA who anticipate that their kid will struggle to pass matric at some point in the future and therefore feel a sense of relief that the odds are in their favour if he/she attends a 100% matric pass rate school. How the 100% pass rate has become the standard setter is beyond me. Some kids fail no matter how good the quality of education at their school is. I seriously don’t think any kind of meaningful deduction about the difference in quality of education can be made from 97% vs 98% vs 99% vs 100% pass rate. If I was in school marketing I would probably be on the lookout for a loophole to get my school to an exclusive 101% 8)

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18 January, 2015 at 10:34
#314 beet

@GreenBlooded: Fair comments. The coach is held to a higher standard and players are involved in the heat of the battle. Whether those factors even up the scales of 2 games vs 4 months pending an appeal hearing, I don’t know and I personally can’t see that article encouraging that readers to believe it does. Maybe the downfall is that players are not held to higher standards as well. If the player in the incident got a lengthy ban , the newspaper’s article would have been reduced from several columns to a couple of lines at best.

Conspiracy theory or not the disciplinary committee’s appearance of independence and objectivity has been brought into question. For the benefit of the sport hopefully it’s the “not” and they pass any test with flying colours.

Hopefully this episode also marks the rock bottom for the coach and he makes the adjustments for the better of himself and the sport.

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18 January, 2015 at 10:11
#313 GreenBlooded

@beet:

I don’t think it is as simple as comparing the actions and sanctions of ‘2 adults’. One of them was a coach – who to my mind has a much higher duty of care insofar as the game’s laws and ethos is concerned than does a player. Furthermore, a player is directly involved in the action – whereas a coach is not. “Protecting his player” by punching an opponent twice sounds more like retaliation to me – he could have restrained the aggressor.

For an idea of sanctions for coaches assaulting opposition players I have 2 rugby examples from recent years as precedent: In one incident a coach of an U18 team pushed a player from the opposition team and received a 1 year total ban. That was either in 2012 or 2013 – I can’t recall. Late in the 2014 season a 3rd Div club coach was banned for a year for running onto the field and punching an opposition player for calling him a p….

It sounds like this guy was offered a ‘plea bargain’ of a year suspension and an anger management course which he didn’t accept. This sounds fair in terms of the rugby precedent, his previous rap sheet notwithstanding, yet he has chosen to fight it by making all sorts of obscure allegations of victimisation and conspiracy. I guess the beak will get the final say on this – my gut feel says his behavior will be the dominant theme rather than the alleged conspiracy theory that the whole waterpolo community is out to get him.

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18 January, 2015 at 08:29
#312 Grasshopper

Glen wood matric info; http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/matric-results-2014

98% pass rate is fair but still not great.

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18 January, 2015 at 06:47
#311 beet

@Grasshopper: Definitely. No one can justify or condone this sort of behaviour from anyone of any age.

I’ve witnessed events where the reserve players take an active role in the problem unfolding in the playing arena but it is unusual for a coach to climb in as well.

Nevertheless at the end of the day the punishment must fit the crime as well and if it doesn’t, well then there are questions to be asked about the disciplinary process.

In this case the newspaper reports it as one adult pleading guilty and getting an immediate 2 match ban while the other adult gets suspended for 4 months while waiting for the outcome of his hearing. And the report does not make much distinction between the indiscretions committed by the two adults.

Compare that to pro rugby’s bad boys like Bakkies, Grewcock or now Hartley. None of them ever got a 4-month ban.

For fair public opinion on whether the sanction is justified or not the key is knowing the coach’s so-called “rap sheet”. The suspension dished out suggests he is a repeat physical abuse offender.

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17 January, 2015 at 19:28
#310 Grasshopper

@beet: Yep, read it the same way. But an adult should have more control, you can’t compare the offences. This is not a DHS vs Glenwood thing, it’s a club vs club thing. If boys can’t handle club games they shouldn’t be playing at that level. In fact, these days most of the boys are bigger than the men…..

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17 January, 2015 at 18:22
#309 beet

I must say I don’t know much about waterpolo or the physical nature of sport but that newspaper article seems to paint the DHS waterpolo coach as a victim of sorts. It kind of goes along these lines according to the coach’s version: His undefeated club team in the adult league consisting of several school players is winning the game by quite a margin (4 goals). The losing team can’t seem to come to terms with the DHSOB club game plan and one of 20-something year old players in the losing team then takes the law into his own hands – to which he later pleads guilty. The ref is unable to control the situation so the DHS coach dives into the pool to defend his young players by punching the aggressor on the other team. This other player gets a 2 week ban for his involvement but the DHS coach gets 4 months ban pending a hearing, which effectively rules him out of coaching DHS during the 1st term season. He also made out that the members of the committee that handed out the sanctions are from rival schools to DHS and DHS are expected to have a good water polo team this year, so they seemingly have incentive to get the coach out the way.

I think the newspaper should have published a list of the coach’s past offences that contributed to the hefty ban. That would have added perspective, otherwise from what one reads he looks like he’s getting the short end of the stick.

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17 January, 2015 at 17:42
#308 GreenBlooded

@star:

Being the GW spin doctor is a tough job. And do you think I get any thanks or recognition for it? Nada bru. It sucks.

@Anti Green:

I presume so – the coach normally sits in the corner on the bench (clothed) with the reserves shouting the odds and recycling the ball if it goes out.

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17 January, 2015 at 15:21
#307 star

My son has just played a cricket match at PRG( the hosts). In their team was a family that was at Westville Senior before emigrating to England. They have returned to Somerset West and the boys now attend PRG. My wife had a great and unexpected reunion. Sometimes we focus too much on our differences and not on our commonality and the fact that school sports provides a great bond at all levels.( Maybe I am being too sentimental the old codger that I am )
Talking of differences if their was an equivalent to the spokesman in the Presidency at GW then GB would be a shoe in

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17 January, 2015 at 14:03
#306 BuffelsCM

@Balikibaba: You’re welcome !!

@meadows: Have a look at the link in my previous post. All the names that you have mentioned are there except Howard’s

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17 January, 2015 at 13:01
#305 meadows

@Rugger fan: No MHS players on that list – I can think of a few off the top of my head – Rob Hankinson in ’74-’75, Pat Lambie in 2007-8, Dave Edgar in 2001 and Angus Martyn in 1998. Pat Howard definitely played for SA U18 against England in 2010 but I’m not sure if that side was picked separately from the SA Schools team.

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17 January, 2015 at 12:26
#304 Anti Green

@GreenBlooded:Eish, then he must face the music. Did he actually jump into the pool to give the chap a smack? What an idiot. They must ban him for life.

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17 January, 2015 at 11:14
#303 GreenBlooded

@Anti Green: Ja – it was on the front page of the Mercury yesterday. This Le Roux oke is out of control – he has quite a rap-sheet. I personally saw him, as a coach, get red-carded and ejected from the pool area in a Top10 schools match last year for abusing the officials. But for a coach to jump into the pool and punch an opposition player TWICE is taking it far too far. He has to get sanctioned. I’m sure you’ll agree Anti-Gee – that’s just not on. Polo is a tough game – if he doesn’t like his boys getting roughed up a bit he mustn’t coach.

And then to try and make it a Glenwood thing because the ref happens to teach at Glenwood (remember this was a club match between DHS Old Boys and Clifton Mackerals – not a school match) is just taking the pi$$. Tut tut tut……..

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17 January, 2015 at 06:47
#302 Anti Green

Hopper congrats and all the best for your future heir:What’s happening here:Waterpolo coaches at loggerheads
Published: Today, 12:57 PM
Source: Sport24
Le Roux said he saw a Clifton player choke a member of his team and, when a team-mate tried to assist, he was assaulted by the older player.

Le Roux said the referee, Steve la Marque (also Glenwood’s coach), lost control of proceedings, so he stepped in and twice punched the Clifton player. Amidst fierce fracas, the game had to be abandoned.

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16 January, 2015 at 19:49
#301 Balikibaba

@BuffelsCM: Thanks!

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15 January, 2015 at 15:35
#300 BuffelsCM

@Balikibaba: I have counted (very quickly) and according to the attached link, Bishops have in the region of 16 players.

Some of the more well known guys are Herschelle Gibbs, Nic Koster, Nizaam Carr, Andrew Lanning, Tim Swiel and Dave von Hoesslin (to name a few).

http://www.rugby15.co.za/2012/11/sa-schools-rugby-players-1974-2012/

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15 January, 2015 at 12:34
#299 Cappie

Afrikaanse skole kraai koning in matriekwiskunde – Helpende Hand
helpendehand.co.za/afrikaanse-skole-kraai-koning-mat… – Translate this page
Leerlinge aan Afrikaanse skole het byna ‘n derde van al die wiskundeonderskeidings ingeoes wat deur die matriekklas van 2014 behaal is.
http://helpendehand.co.za/afrikaanse-skole-kraai-koning-matriekwiskunde/

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15 January, 2015 at 10:00
#298 BOG

Distinctions dont always help. A young lady, the top student in the FS, applied online for admission to medical school at UFS. Somehow, this application went “missing” and after re-submitting it, it was “too late” for consideration. Her average was 97% and she got 99% for Maths.

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15 January, 2015 at 07:49
#297 Balikibaba

@Rugger fan: Don’t see Bishops on that list and off the top of my head I can think of 6 or 7

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15 January, 2015 at 07:13
#296 Balikibaba

LOL…Been a looooong time since Bali made a comment, but when he sees his old school at number ONE for a change (by SUCH a big margin), he just HAS to comment!

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15 January, 2015 at 07:10
#295 Roger

@Grasshopper: apologies – 6 – I was counting caps – got that wrong too – 9 caps

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14 January, 2015 at 19:14
#294 Grasshopper

Kearsney

1) Mark Rockey Rich – 1975
2) Clifford Hopkins – 1979
3) Etienne Fynn – 1990 (BUT St Charles could claim him)
4) Nico Breedt – 1998
5) Greg Goosen – 2001
6) Johan Strauss – 2004
7) Brad Barritt – 2004
8) Kene Ockafor – 2007
9) Sandile Khubeka – 2012
10) Daniel Du Preez – 2013
11) Jean-Luc Du Preez – 2013

Pretty impressive for a school of only 550 boys..

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14 January, 2015 at 16:05
#293 Grasshopper

KES
KES
1) Barnard, Lee – (King Edward VII) – GL – 1974-75
2) Carty, Shane – (King Edward VII) – GL – 1974-75
3) Van Niekerk, Joe – (King Edward VII) – GL – 1997-98
4) Mjekevu, Wandile – (King Edward VII) – GL – 2008
5) Ntubeni, Siyabonga – (King Edward VII) – GL – 2009
6) Marx, Malcolm – (King Edward VII) – GL – 2012

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14 January, 2015 at 15:56
#292 Grasshopper

@Roger: So who are the 8?

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14 January, 2015 at 15:53
#291 Grasshopper

@Rugger fan: That is an old list….

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14 January, 2015 at 15:52
#290 Rugger fan

Seems like DHS has 4 rugger caps.

SA Schools by Schools 1974-2012:

Grey College – 88 (2013)
Affies – 26 (2013)
Paarl Gimnasium – 29 (2013)
Maritzburg College – 20
Hoërskool Monument – 19
Hoërskool Waterkloof – 19
Paul Roos Gymnasium – 19 (2013)
Hoërskool Ermelo – 19 (2013)
Paarl Boys High – 18 (2013)
Selborne College – 12 (2013)
Dale College – 11
Hoër Landbouskool Oakdale – 10
Kearsney College – 10 (2013)
Hoërskool Outeniqua – 9 (2013)
Glenwood High School – 7
Westville Boys’ High – 7
Hoërskool Florida – 7 (2013)
Grey High School PE – 8
Hoërskool Nelspruit – 6 (2013)
DHS – 4
St Albans College – 5 (2013)
Hoërskool Sandveld – 3
Hilton College – 2
Hoërskool Wonderboom – 2
Northlands – 1
Hoërskool Oudtshoorn – 1
Oudtshoorn THS – 1
Middelande Secondary – 1
Hoërskool Hendrik Verwoerd – 1
Hoërskool Garsfontein – 1 (2013)
Hoërskool Transvalia – 1 (2013)
Hermanus High School – 1 (2013)

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14 January, 2015 at 15:51
#289 Roger

only KZN schools who match KES on combined total are College (46) and DHS (34 cricket – rugger not sure)

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14 January, 2015 at 15:47
#288 Roger

KES have 8 SA Schools rugger caps and 38 cricket caps – combined total 46.

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14 January, 2015 at 15:44
#287 Grasshopper

@Roger: Maritzburg College lead KZN with about 21 since 1974, Kearsney with 10, Glenwood 9, Westville 7 or 8…

Glenwood’s since 1974
1) Derek La Marque (No8 and Captain) – 1979
2) Dennis Baronet (Centre) – 1985
3) Petros Mthula (prop) – 2001
4) Jayden Hill (lock) – 2004
5) Shaun Malton (hooker) – 2008
6) Fred Schnetler (lock) – 2009
7) Morne Joubert (fullback) – 2014
8) Jaco Coetzee (No8 and Captain) – 2014
9) Kenny Van Niekerk (prop) – 2014

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14 January, 2015 at 15:28
#286 Grasshopper

@Roger: She is IT Director…

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14 January, 2015 at 15:20
#285 Rugger fan

@Roger: Sorry

Here is to 2012.

http://www.rugby15.co.za/2012/11/sa-schools-rugby-players-1974-2012/

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14 January, 2015 at 15:16
#284 Roger

@Grasshopper: does your sister teach at the Prep or High school?

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14 January, 2015 at 14:29
#283 Roger

@Grasshopper: @Rugger fan: no no guys – focus here – I mean a list of SA schools rugby players and the schools they went to – not springboks by schools

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14 January, 2015 at 14:28
#282 Grasshopper

@Rugger fan: hahahha, I reckon those Kriel brothers are on some serious ‘pap & vleis’ if you know what I mean…

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14 January, 2015 at 14:22
#281 Rugger fan

One of the Kriel brothers needs a cap before anothe rGW boy….to keep College above Scumbilo Secondary School for Wayward Boys

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14 January, 2015 at 14:18
#280 Cappie

@Rugbyman: Van watter fasiliteite maak Garsfontein nog gebruik om te oefen en rugby te speel as hulle net twee velde het? Ek weet Affies het net drie, maar hulle oefen en speel ook op die vier velde van Pretoria klub asook op Harlequins se veld, wat dit op agt bring.

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14 January, 2015 at 14:16
#279 Grasshopper

@Rugger fan: Sorry, KES have HM Forrest too, so it’s actually 4. Is Scarra a proper capped Bok?

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14 January, 2015 at 14:13
#278 Cappie

@beet: Are your figures in the second table correct, because Menlo Park as for Garsfontein claim a 100% pass rate, whilst you say 2 from Menlo and 1 from Garsfontein failed?

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14 January, 2015 at 14:12
#277 Grasshopper

@Rugger fan: Woohoo, Glenwood 18th on the list for most Boks, pretty good for a kak school in Scumbilo….KES is only 3, Joe Van Niekerk, Brian Habana and Scarra (Dalian)…

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14 January, 2015 at 14:11
#276 Grasshopper

I think Errol Stewart made SA Schools hockey too. I do know Glenwood has a few cricket & hockey dual SA Schools players, Andile Phelukwayo this year, Greg Nicol was close but I think had to choose one and of course all three Madsen brothers…..a kid at SACS this year is also a dual SA schools sportsman…

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14 January, 2015 at 14:08
#275 Rugger fan

This says KES only have 3 – a little old?

http://www.schoolsportsnews.co.za/rugby/most-springboks-by-school/

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14 January, 2015 at 14:06
#274 Grasshopper

@Roger: True, my sister marks maths papers there every year, she teachers at Kingsmead so maybe that is why she is not blown away. I thought it was a very nice place to send a kid ;-)

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14 January, 2015 at 14:05
#273 Rugger fan

@Roger:

Not tallyed – but here it is:

http://www.schoolsportsnews.co.za/rugby/springboks-by-school-rugby/list-of-springboks-and-their-schools/

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14 January, 2015 at 14:04
#272 Grasshopper

@Roger: Glad to see the old Green Machine at 12th on the cricket list, never knew we were that high.

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14 January, 2015 at 14:03
#271 Roger

@Grasshopper: I hear you on Hilton and Michaelhouse but they are 100% boarding – Saints is 90% day scholars hence my point that their campus is second to none given their urban location – buildings may not be as beautiful as St Johns or Michaelhouse but heh, who’s buildings are?

Quite impressed? C’mon – you can do better than that – I am certainly no Saints cheerleader but that campus is special

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14 January, 2015 at 14:01
#270 Roger

http://www.schoolsportsnews.co.za/cricket/schools-with-the-most-sa-schools-caps/

http://www.schoolsportsnews.co.za/rugby/rugby-events/craven-week/sa-schools/dual-sa-schools/

can’t find a list of sa schools rugby caps by school – KES have 7

Beet – any ideas

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14 January, 2015 at 13:54
#269 Grasshopper

@Roger: been there quite impressive, just not sure I would want to live in Bryanston to send my kids there. Nothing beats the Hilton’s and Michaelhouse’s of the world for sheer beauty, ambiance and history. Glenwood used to play Saints annually but hammered them too much it was called off…

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14 January, 2015 at 13:44
#268 BOG

@Djou: I know that, but could not let the opportunity go—. Where are they going to fit the vineyard- to make the recruits from the Cape feel at home? And offer “Wingerdbou”. Ek sal maar eerder my mond hou oor VS rugby. Speel hulle nog die game? Met hulle nuwe rekrute, is ek nie so seker nie- Joe Petersen miskien die uitsondering

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14 January, 2015 at 10:52
#267 Playa

@Grasshopper: Must be a well-hung boy

Congratulations, and all the best with the pregnancy! Stock up on energy, you’re gonna need it

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14 January, 2015 at 10:48
#266 Roger

and on top of that I reckon they provide housing on campus for at least 50% of their staff

parents may pay through their nose for the privilege of their kids been educated there but you cannot moan about the facilities

indoor sports centres, gyms, etc etc etc

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14 January, 2015 at 10:41
#265 Roger

you fellas need to visit the St Stithians campus if you want to be impressed +- 2500 pupils from Grade 00 to matric. Four swimming pools, two Astros, I reckon at least 15 tennis courts, acres and acres of fields, numerous basketball, netball, squash courts, nature reserve, top quality old boys club – very, very impressive – and the difference between Saints and Hilton and Michaelhouse is that Saints is in the heart of JHB – not in the countryside. When you compare the Saints campus to St Johns, Kearsney or Bishops you will see what I mean

They have spend a phenomenal amount of money there over the last twenty years

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14 January, 2015 at 10:38
#264 Gungets Tuft

@Grasshopper: College boarder now R83K a year, fees and BE included. Still less than dayboy fees at Crawford, Clifton etc, and you shed some home costs having ’em at boarding school.

“Hope College stays a quality institution” – phooey man. 8)

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14 January, 2015 at 09:52
#263 Gungets Tuft

@Grasshopper: Was at a wedding recently where the main joke was the grooms youngest brother (4 boys) that was supposed to be a girl. Recurring comments about the parents disappointment that he was not a girl when the scan didn’t show it. Apart from his (immaculately fresh) girlfriends “Well, I’m thrilled he was a boy” murmers, his killer comment was “on the scan they thought it was a leg!” . Adds a bit more emotion to why his girlfriend was so vehemently happy

Well, all the best there bru, pigeon pair so far, nothing wrong. Both mine born in May. Recurring late winter load shedding … it’s the damned candles …

@GreenBlooded: Bwahaha .. stop giving away the secrets 8)

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14 January, 2015 at 09:06
#262 Grasshopper

@Rugbyman: 2 rugby fields….eish, surely you need double that?

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14 January, 2015 at 09:03
#261 Grasshopper

@Rugger fan: Yep, been debating on that on Facebook with friends. No chance am I going to afford R6k a month from today, so let’s hope College stays a quality institution as I’ll try and send him there in 12/13 years from now. Westville & Northwood as 2nd choice. Kearsney et al only if he gets a scholarship or bursary.

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14 January, 2015 at 09:01
#260 Grasshopper

@Gungets Tuft: Thanks boet, the fetal specialist was able to tell us at 12 weeks amazing. Due in May :-)

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14 January, 2015 at 08:58
#259 Rugger fan

@Grasshopper: Grasshopper – some food for though for that new son of yours if you are still not happy with GW by the time you send your boy to high School!!!!

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.ezfinancial.co.za/2015/01/12/sa-private-schools-start-saving/&gws_rd=cr&ei=bxG2VLWZAciqygPI84G4Bw

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14 January, 2015 at 08:51
#258 Rugbyman

@Cappie: There will still be two rugby fields….

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14 January, 2015 at 08:30
#257 Cappie

@BOG: Apparently Garsies approved the construction of an astro, which will take away multi-purpose grass turffs. How many rugby fields will there be, if they built the astro?

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14 January, 2015 at 08:02
#256 GreenBlooded

@Gungets Tuft: Top left corner?

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14 January, 2015 at 07:53
#255 Djou

@BOG: Ha, ha, this is why I love your posts. Garsies don’t offer the communion. It is the advertisement of a near by church.

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14 January, 2015 at 07:43
#254 BOG

@BORIS: Ek het gehoop dat jy vir ons meer kan vertel van AT se “whereabouts” Was hy saam met jou “geinkarseneer” of was hy maar net nog n slagoffer van misdaad? Laat ons weet@Grasshopper: I often pass Garsies. How they manage to fit in that number on those premises, only they would know. Years back, I felt cramped on 60 hectares. Oh yes, they even offer “walk through communion” if what I see on a bill board, is correct. n Hap en n dop, en daar gaan jy. But it will be in Dutch, though

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14 January, 2015 at 07:29
#253 Gungets Tuft

@Grasshopper: Snuck in the “pregnant with a boy” there. Congratulations, all the best for the pregnancy and boy parenthood. It’s different ….

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14 January, 2015 at 06:53
#252 Grasshopper

@Rugbyman: Yes, I’m torn between a real passion for my school and the dodgy goings on behind the scenes. I always support the boys just not always the administrators…

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14 January, 2015 at 06:16
#251 Rugbyman

@Grasshopper: they are still boys and they need your support…

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14 January, 2015 at 06:10
#250 Grasshopper

@Rugbyman: Yeah, but it’s wrong on all levels. The boys running out in Glenwood colours are not the boys that used to run out 10 years ago. The team doesn’t represent the Old Boys I know, mostly English speaking guys from Durban and KZN….

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14 January, 2015 at 05:56
#249 Rugbyman

@Grasshopper: no worries… thats the game these days! Wont change again ever… adapt or die…

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14 January, 2015 at 05:53
#248 Grasshopper

@Rugbyman: Apologies for that, I don’t support that recruitment at all. But management changes over the years, let’s hope we get some management with morals and integrity in the near future. My wife is pregnant with a boy, he won’t be going to Glenwood at this rate….

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14 January, 2015 at 05:26
#247 Rugbyman

@Grasshopper: You are most welcome! By the way, glennwood took two of our u/15 players of 2014… sure they will be of value to the u/16s of this year…

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14 January, 2015 at 05:10
#246 Djou

@Cappie: Yes, it is a rather strange formula the DoE uses. I took it up with them on occasion and their reasoning was that it is much more difficult to manage large schools and large schools also deliver more students to the economic active population, in other words making a larger contribution to the economy. Now, if you know where the large schools are … well you can draw your own conclusions – because there are much better formulas to use. I have applied one or two different ones and there, surprisingly, Garsies still came out tops, but the Affies schools were higher on the list.

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13 January, 2015 at 22:12
#245 Djou

@Cappie: Some schools in formerly known “townships” have 2 500+ learners. So what we are talking about here is small compared to these schools.
The official number of grade 8’s will only be known on the 10th school day after opening. These numbers must be forwarded to DoE to determine the capacity of schools.
Wonderboom is the largest old Model C school in Pretoria (by number of learners) followed by Garsies and Waterkloof and Eldoraigne.
@Gungets: Complementary exams in Feb/March are only for illnesses and death in family – with proven doctor certificate/proof of death in family and letter from principal. Drop outs etc. don’t qualify. DoE became very strict on this.
@Beet – yes, it is massive work you did. You almost qualified as a researcher.

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13 January, 2015 at 21:55
#244 BORIS

@BOG:
hi Bog
Boris nie seker nie, maar een ding weet Boris–nooit weer n cellphone in Boris se sel nie!! Boris is ook klaar met Whiskey—Leef Andre T nog

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13 January, 2015 at 19:30
#243 Grasshopper

@Rugbyman: next time I’m in Pretoria I need to visit Garsies, it must be massive to house that many scholars….almost like a mini varsity…

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13 January, 2015 at 18:57
#242 Rugbyman

@Cappie: Garsfontein het so ongeveer 1800 leerlinge… sover ek weet het wonderboom 2000+ leerlinge… Ek dink garsies het rondom 370 graad 8s ingekry en die skool is vir die eerste keer in sy bestaan vol! Hulle gaan moontlik nog klaskamers moet bou…

Vreemde manier vd dept om dit uit te werk… sal bietjie bevestig met my skool kennisse…

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13 January, 2015 at 18:24
#241 kosie

@Cappie: Eldo het 456 onderskeidings behaal. Dus 303 en 456 is 759. Weet nie waar dit op die ranglys is nie

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13 January, 2015 at 18:22
#240 BOG

@Grasshopper: And if you add GCB to that list, the number would double@BORIS: O vlok, het jy n nuwe “call sign”? Uit permanent of net parool?

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13 January, 2015 at 18:13
#239 BORIS

Hello Hello–is Boris op die regte plek!!!

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13 January, 2015 at 16:55
#238 Cappie

Garsfontein moet seker nou die grootste skool in Suid Afrika wees. Ek wonder hoeveel leerlinge is daar nou in totaal? Dit moet by die 2000 wees. Ek sien Menlo Park het 360 graad 8’s ingekry hierdie jaar. Menlo en Garsfontein neem die formaat van skool wees na ‘n nuwe interessante dimensie in lyn met die regering se visie van bediening van massas.

Rugbyman, wat die formule aanbetref wat deur die Onderwysdepartement gebruik word om top skool te bepaal, is soos ek genoem het, hulle neem die aantal leerlinge wat deur gekom het en tel die aantal A’s wat die leerlinge gekry het bymekaar, en die skool met die hoogste punt wen. Garsfontein se totaal is sodoende 367+601=968. Menlo: 288+670=958. Waterkloof: 297+576=875. Affies meisies: 184+507=691. Affies seuns: 231+413=644. Eldoraigne met 303 wat deurgekom het behoort ook onder die top 4 te wees. Ek weet nie hoeveel A’s hulle gehad het nie.

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13 January, 2015 at 16:02
#237 Grasshopper

@Gungets Tuft: Agreed! I bet if you put the international sportsman from poorly KES, PBHS, Jeppe, College, DHS, Westville and Glenwood together they would have more than all the private schools in SA put together..

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13 January, 2015 at 14:45
#236 Playa

@BOG: 100% agreed

That option is available to all public scholars in SA at their own cost

@beet: Confirmed – Bishops do offer A levels in post matric. However, they will not be offering post matric as of this year.

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13 January, 2015 at 14:42
#235 Gungets Tuft

@Grasshopper: Boet – Ivan is one of many. I (despite my best efforts to shake them off, even moving house) have a good number of Glenwood mates and none of them are lower that Directors of their (not insubstancial companies) or own their own businesses and are styling properly. You know one of them, and rest of that crowd certainly don’t struggle. Drop into O’Connors in Durban North this evening and one of them will buy you a Guinness. They are there networking

I agree with Playa – if the Old Boys network is not a myth, then it’s certainly no more influencial than those from the government schools. In my 5 years span I have the names of doctors, lawyers {eeisch}, vets, accountants, company owners, airline pilots, CEOs of banks, international rugby referees, you name it. This is not a spot to start waving your todger around .. really. Chill …. 8)

In fact – you should see the attendance list for the GCC Saturday morning strolling club ….

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13 January, 2015 at 14:40
#234 Grasshopper

@oldschool: To add Glenwood was not used by Super 15 rugby teams for training for nothing, the fields are pristine. Also, they didn’t host the Academies Week and other tourno’s for nothing. Kearsney might one day get competition for their festival by Glenwood….who knows…

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13 January, 2015 at 14:32
#233 BOG

@oldschool: I would have thought that GT had the monopoly of all towing operations in the area?

My last “contribution” to the IEB vs NSC debate . While the standard of the final matric exams may differ, this does not mean that the level of tuition in many of the individual state schools, are not high. In fact, I think that its often higher than in some of the private schools. But the standards drop for the region, to accommodate those many schools where things are not to kosher.If I remember correctly, a few years ago, there were a few schools which offered the scholar the opportunity to write either NSC or IEB. (Was Waterkloof not one of them?)

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13 January, 2015 at 14:28
#232 Grasshopper

@oldschool: Agree on some points, but on facilities not really. SACS, Rondebosch and Wynberg don’t really have that much more space or facilities than say Westville, College, DHS or Glenwood. Glenwood’s campus is kept in pristine condition, they can’t buy space though. Part and parcel of having been built on the once outskirts of Durban and now in the middle of a suburb. In terms of building design, one can’t do much about the architecture of the early 1900’s. Also, your comment about business leaders mainly coming from private schools is wrong too, Ivan Clarke is an example of a poorly Glenwood Boy doing pretty well for himself. Also, look at the leaders coming out of College, Westville, DHS etc. What was interesting when Sean Pollock spoke at the Glenwood Old Boys dinner, since readmission to world sport, only 3 Proteas have come from private schools….David Tebrugge, Herschelle Gibbs and one other….forget who….probably Abbott who got nicely tonked by the West Indies. I know your post is said in jest but what it does show is the attitude that private schools have towards the Gov schools…..the real attitude and not the pretense displayed by some….

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13 January, 2015 at 14:27
#231 Playa

@oldschool: The network thing is a huge misconception/myth. It may have been true once upon a time (even that is debatable), but my bottom dollar says not anymore.

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13 January, 2015 at 14:26
#230 Gungets Tuft

@oldschool: “for towing ………. I call my Glenwood connections”

Oy!?!?! What am I – chopped liver. Have a heart bru, got bills to pay.

But seriously – you’re assuming the government schools don’t have a “network” … .. outside of blue collar stuff that is?

http://www.rchelicam.co.za/preview/Maritzburg_College/Maritzburg_College.html

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13 January, 2015 at 14:23
#229 Rugger fan

College ranks up there with their historical buildings (some of the newer wings are a little drab however) – but then are some of the newer KC school blocks too!

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13 January, 2015 at 14:19
#228 Greenwood

Old School

fair comment on the Durban Govt Schools but to me Northwood has a great campus far better than the DHS & Gwd – cant say much about Westville – their buildings are hidden behind trees from Bowdens

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13 January, 2015 at 14:13
#227 oldschool

my view is that the debate between the benefits of private vs state school and the justification of costs comes down to geography … in KZN we have to pay proper money to get similar facilities to the cape schools , GCB , Grey high etc ….as our state schools are but ugly and have small grounds with over loaded class rooms …where as the state schools mentioned have great grounds and facilities …… but when u compare what u pay at Glenwood and what u get compared to say SACS the Glen wood okes are getting short changed big time …hence the privates in KZN being so sort after as in KZN we have to pay to get what the cape have as state schools ….
Durban must have the ugliest schools in the country ….DHS , Glenwood ,Westville and Northwood are seriously poor examples of architecture !!!
in addition to what has been said on this subject , I believe the privates offer a better all round network for after school /varsity contacts as most fee paying private school lads come from wealthier families whom are more than likely heads of businesses or entrepeneurs whom if used correctly can open doors for those young guys that are hungry and talented ….don’t get me wrong , there is no guarentees as many of my private school mates are lazy bastards , but the ones whom use the network get things done pretty quickly ….however if im looking for a home service provider ..plumber , sparky etc ..I call my DHS connections …for towing or security I call my Glen wood connections ….but for law or accounting I call my Private school mates

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13 January, 2015 at 14:00
#226 Playa

@kosie: My experience has been that private scholars generally struggled with the transition from smaller classes at school to ‘overcrowded’ lecture theatres in varsity. Never mind the things they get up to with their excessive pocket money – I jest.

The individual attention edge falls away, and weekly 45 min tuts are just not enough to fill that void. The government scholar who has had to be more self-sufficient tends to do better. This is however, generally only a problem in the first 2 years of study, and then marks kind of level out towards the end of the bachelors degree. Interestingly, though, private scholars tend to do better in post-graduate study. I have attested to the fact that private schools tend to focus a lot on research skills, which is not the case in most public schools.

Again, this is based on my experience (one university and 3 different faculties), and not to be taken as a general view/trend.

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13 January, 2015 at 11:41
#225 Roger

@BOG: I haven’t been further north than Vilancoulos so can’t comment beyond that but have been to Bilene, Xai Xai, Inhambane, Vilancoulos and the Islands – all fantastic but as Greenblooded says, a schlep – unless you fly. I prefer having all my amenities close by

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13 January, 2015 at 11:33
#224 kosie

@beet: My last 5 cents worth on this subject. Firstly thank you for collating all the different data and putting it in some form of comparison for us rugby mad people to try and understand. It is no small feat to be able to do that.

What the rankings however do show is that we still have very good schools in SA; both private and govt. BOG may be right to ask if the expense of private education gives you an advantage if you do the varsity thing. I don’t necessarily think so. But, if a parent can afford to give his child the best money can buy, why not.

I also read the article Rugbyman refers to regarding schools achieving good results at varsity. What was interesting in that article was that the NSC schools did better than IEB schools. But then again it was only at one varsity

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13 January, 2015 at 11:03
#223 beet

@Rugbyman: Ja but with the exception of the IEB schools the other numbers all come from the same website, so I assume they use the same criteria but I could be wrong

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13 January, 2015 at 10:50
#222 beet

@Tang: With the time constraints and info readily available to the public, an exercise of separating girls from boys at co-eds or even those who did not take varsity pass subjects from those who did, is not feasible for me to attempt. It would be a different story if one could download one flat file with all the matric results data.

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13 January, 2015 at 10:46
#221 Rugbyman

@beet: I understand… but eveyone measures it differently… The one the department of education is using is not listed on here… That is again a different measurment… So as Kosie says, each school can interpret it as they see fit…

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13 January, 2015 at 10:45
#220 BOG

@Roger: Yes, Ive been to most of those too, but in my humble opinion, I dont think you can compare them with the beaches of Mozambique. And going by the ques ? at the border, many agree with me. Those beaches compare with those on the islands. But I agree that the logistics involved to get there, is offputting@GreenBlooded: That beach, Trafalgar(??) has been declared a nudist beach to attract people, because of the crime in the area. I suppose their reasoning is that if the thieves can see that they have nothing to steal, there wont be theft. Will be interesting to know where they will keep their vehicles keys
As far as the IEB and NSC is concerned, no, it does not benefit you when applying for admission to a varsity, but it certainly closes the gap between matric and first year, ie personal benefit. The question though, does that small benefit justify the expenses of private schooling over 12 yrs or even 5? I dont think so. Some form of “post matric” course would achieve the same benefit and a lot more affordable

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13 January, 2015 at 10:43
#219 Tang

@Grasshopper – In terms of numbers, I agree. However, numbers compared to acquisitions is as valuable as comparing IEB to NSC. Acquiring good players any time after grade 8 will have a much bigger impact on results than sheer numbers.

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13 January, 2015 at 10:41
#218 Gungets Tuft

@Roger: Crawford are much better than that, they expel kids that might not pass and refuse to leave.

Crawford were NSC till this now, 2015 will be IEB.

@Djou: Didn’t think of the kids that might have missed an exam, but there are some quite hectic “no shows” in that list, in some cases whole bus loads seem to have disappeared, which is disasterous. There seems no logic whatsoever to going through the whole year and then not writing the exams. I know of one kid that left 1/2 way through the year to join his family business (no hoper in the pass stakes though).

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13 January, 2015 at 10:41
#217 beet

@Roger: Sadly the IEB results are not set out in the same format as the NSC ones. Its a pity.

Djou mentioned legit reasons for kids missing exams but I think you are on the money. With some much emphasis on the 100% pass stat amongst all schools both IEB and NSC, the pressure to preserve the record by ensuring that borderline pass candidates either don’t write or don’t fail finals must be huge.

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13 January, 2015 at 10:40
#216 beet

@kosie: @Rugbyman:@Djou: I must say I’m learning as I go along here. I agree that they don’t tell the full story by a long way and no one should look to deeply into them. They do offer something different to the usual “100% passed” that we are all accustomed to hearing.

Even though I agree that just like most other ranking lists that appears on this website, there are non-quantitative factors missing that would give the data more meaning. But it’s worth noting that the tables are based on actual data available and in terms of what is used to rank the schools by, these tables are pretty much accurate.

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13 January, 2015 at 10:39
#215 Tang

@Beet – To get a truly meaningful comparison, the girls and boys results (for the co-ed schools) should be separated.

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13 January, 2015 at 10:34
#214 Roger

@GreenBlooded: I prefer KZN and EC beaches out of season though so not sure what sights I will see on your first “au natural” beach

Having said that, if it is anything like the beaches in France,Spain and Italy then you can look forward to plenty retirees doing aerobics classes and calisthenics – not a pleasant sight

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13 January, 2015 at 10:32
#213 GreenBlooded

@Roger:

Ja – I really don’t think the schlep to Moz, border posts, cops with their hands out, exchange rate hustlers blah blah blah are worth the effort. Plenty of good beaches in SA if you know where to look. Durban beach is not my favourite – but just North of the Umgeni are some good spots and the North and South coasts are full of decent places. We are even getting a nudist beach on the south coast soon which might be just up your street.

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13 January, 2015 at 10:22
#212 Playa

@Rugger fan: That letter gets a standing ovation from me

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13 January, 2015 at 10:19
#211 Roger

@GreenBlooded: @BOG: different strokes for different folks – nothing wrong with KZN or EC beaches or beaches in Mozam – been to most. Depends what you prefer – there is very little out there that beats Plett, Cape St Francis, Kenton, Marina Beach, Southbroom, Sheffield etc

The nice thing about KZN and Mozam is that the seas is always warm enough to swim in – not so in the EC!

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13 January, 2015 at 10:11
#210 Roger

@beet: I do believe – and if it is a dastardly rumour, feel free to shoot me down – that very many Independent schools deregister their students from the IEB exams who are not likely to pass, and request that they then reregister under their own names so the schools pass rate is not affected – clever neh!

Check total number of actual students versus students who are registered to write the IEB exams

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13 January, 2015 at 10:04
#209 GreenBlooded

@BOG:

Pemba bru. Far northern Moz coast. Paradise. Nacala too – quaint little port town. The best part is it’s far too far for the 4×4’s and ski-boat brigade. Bad part is you have to rely on LAM who reportedly have the oldest in-service 737’s in the world (said with Jeremy Clarkson voice). Was fortunate to spend some time working in both those places.

You comment on landmines is very true – the guys building the transmission lines to our substations had a large component of mine-clearing specialists who had to clear the route before building could start.

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13 January, 2015 at 09:59
#208 Djou

Interesting stats – and a lot o work to compile it (thanks beet) but not directly comparable.
Most co-ed schools provide for up to 23 subjects, whilst boys only schools mostly cover subjects for varsity purposes.
The 23 subjects do allow for tertiary studies, thus also for studies at institutions other than university.
Third, the maximum pass rate can still change and is therefore not a maximum – in some instances the registered students missed writing a subject due to illness or death in the family. They will write in February/March.
So direct comparable necessitate standardisation – compare the failure rates rather than the pass rates.
Standardise for size – it is much more difficult for large schools with many subjects and therefore necessitates standardisation.
Or, compare only the students with varsity subjects in the different schools.
Compare the average, mean and standard deviation to know where most (average % achieved) of the learners performed opposed to distinctions only. If the standard deviation is small and the average high, you know who had the best results.
Use the multiplicative method rather than percentages – multiplicative allows for the fact that every thing affects everything. E.g. multiply the number of students with average with number of distinctions etc.
And so on …
The above is just to show that results can be misinterpreted if it is not standardised in order to make it directly comparable.

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13 January, 2015 at 09:52
#207 Gungets Tuft

@kosie: Not so sure about that mate. For a Varsity pass you need :

Must obtain at least 40% for your Home Language
Must obtain at least 40% for 4 other High Credit Subjects
Must obtain at least 30% for two other subjects

Higher credit course are :

Languages
Accounting
Agricultural Science
Business Studies
Consumer Studies
Dramatic Arts
Economics
Engineering Graphics & Design
Geography
History
Information Technology
Life Sciences
Mathematics
Mathematical Literacy
Music
Physical Sciences
Religion Studies
Visual Arts

Lower credit :

Agricultural Management Practices
Agricultural Technology
Civil Technology
Computer Applications Technology
Dance Studies
Design Studies
Electrical Technology
Hospitality Studies
Mechanical Technology
Tourism

I’m not sure what courses schools offer, but Maths Lit, Business studies, Geog, History, EGD and another language, surely they are on the curriculum. If not, eeisch.

Degree pass – Afrikaans (40%), English (40%), Maths Lit (40% ?!?!), Business Studies (40%), Agric Sciences (40%), 30% for any two others. That’s a very low benchmark … (40 or 30% for history or geog should also be like taking sweets from a baby …

Just to clarify – I am not stuck on varsity passes, or tertiary study. My kids know that they have 5 years study guaranteed (3 year Under grad, 1 year to change their course, 1 honours year) then we negotiate. OR – if either of them comes up with aq business plan that makes good sense and looks like it could succeed, then I have R500K that I am willing to invest (well, I don’t have it – towing isn’t that lucrative unless I start carrying 5l drums of engine oil in the jammy with me), but I’m good for it. Differnet strokes for different kids …

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13 January, 2015 at 09:48
#206 Rugger fan

@kosie: Kosie – Like with all stats – you can make them say what you like. I agree with you – the Technical schools should not be judged against an “academic” statistic like this. But I am impressed with a school like HTS Mid’burg that still holds its own in the first list – and that their teaching and pass rates are so high.

So I don’t think any decent critic will use this list to disadvantage a school that has a strong technical or non “Varsity” orientated strategy.

The stats should not be discounted however – just read in the light of your concern.

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13 January, 2015 at 09:15
#205 Rugger fan

Just FYI – here is a link to a letter from the Head of PBHS on the IEB vs NSC. I know Westville Head has a similar letter (I only have it in hard copy) – http://www.boyshigh.com/i/assets/IEB%20vs%20NSC.pdf

Hope this adds value.

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13 January, 2015 at 09:10
#204 Rugbyman

@beet: @kosie: Beet, I agree with Kosie on this… He is 100% correct in his assement…

Anyhow, lets stick to rugby rather… I would hate this thread to beat the Affies withdrawal against Garsies!!!!

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13 January, 2015 at 09:03
#203 Playa

@kosie: Indeed. IEB exams a more challenging than NSC, that goes without saying. What I was bringing across is that universities use points systems for entrance o courses. An A in IEB does not count more than an A in NSC. So a kid coming out of a private school with 6 distinctions has exactly the same number of points as his government school counterpart that has 6 distinctions. There is no separate measurement for the different exam boards.

Individuals in the universities may not view them as the same, but all university policies view them as such and are obliged to.

We can certainly put an argument out for the differentiation between the two purely because of the different standards.

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13 January, 2015 at 08:22
#202 kosie

@beet: I feel the information is skewed that you show regarding the varsity pass rate as not all learners take subjects that enable them to get a varsity pass.

It distorts the info if your base does not enable you to get a 100% mark. At Eldoraigne we can never get a 100% varsity rate as a good % of the subjects don’t enable the learners to go to varsity. Therefore a school like HTS Middelburg will always struggle on that count.

It would be be better if the total varsity elligible students are compared with the results achieved.

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13 January, 2015 at 08:21
#201 Playa

@beet: I suspect that international universities take guidance from national universities. IEB is a South African exam after all, and why would Harvard hold it in higher esteem if UCT sees it in the same light as UCT? I presume that is the basis.

I am not sure if Bishops still have that. I’ll check and let you know.

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13 January, 2015 at 08:15
#200 kosie

@Playa: I do not know which is the better between IEB and NSC but can give the following info which makes for interesting reading.

My son has a couple of mates who all wrote the IEB exam and it seems they find it more difficult to be admitted to UP with the same marks. I had a discussion with one of the parents and it seems they are advised by the school (Midstream) that UP does not view the IEB exam at the same level.

Another kid form another school that wrote the IEB and did well was also not accepted by UP but was accepted at Kovsies for the same course.

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13 January, 2015 at 08:14
#199 beet

I’ve added a second table above which shows Varsity Passes that each of the listed schools obtained

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13 January, 2015 at 08:07
#198 beet

@Playa: @Gungets Tuft: I can understand why the NSC and IEB are held in the same regard in SA but surprised that internationally they are viewed the same. Surely that has to change.

Do Bishops still over an A-levels matric as a Gr13?

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13 January, 2015 at 08:05
#197 kosie

@Rugbyman: Jy is reg dat ‘n mense se gekose antwoord die vraag sal bepaal. So kan enige skool op die Affie lys seker sy eie lys maak en die gepaste antwoord kry om hom voor op die lys te sit. Eldo sal bv kan sê dat 8 van die 10 matriek 1 ste span spelers in 2014 almal ‘n onderskeiding gekry het. Dis 80% van die eerstespan. Die voorbeeld is net eintlik om met jou punt saam te stem. (nou gaan ek seker ‘n vlaag antwoorde kry).

Wel Eldo se nuwe hoof is Dr Anton Prinsloo voorheen hoof van Bastion in Johannesburg. Kom ons kyk wat gebeur voorentoe.

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13 January, 2015 at 08:00
#196 Playa

@Grasshopper: No logic there mate. Bishops and Herschel’s rationale was simple…and A in the NSC is equal to an A in IEB where varsity entrance is concerned. They have the resources to go the extra mile – the parents pay for that after all – so the only difference really between a Bishops old boy and a Hilton old boy is the one exam they write at the end of Grade 12. Which is neither here nor there in my view. We all know that the NSC is easier than IEB, but where it matters it holds no greater water.

P.S. I have a mate who matriculated at Hudson Park but wrote IEB exams in matric in 1999. He, of course came from money so his parents were willing to foot the bill. Not sure if that is still possible. So it’s not all lost Hopper

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13 January, 2015 at 07:55
#195 Gungets Tuft

@Grasshopper: Why the opposition to NSC. IEB has no more credibility overseas than NSC, even with an 8A IEB pass you will struggle to get into a US or UK university. Best you find an international school that does A Levels. And IEB is given no extra consideration for admission to SA varsities.

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13 January, 2015 at 07:23
#194 Rugbyman

@kosie: daar is in my opinie verskillende maniere om die beste resultate te bepaal… elkeen met n ander antwoord… daar is puik skole in pretoria soos jy tereg sê. Steek my net dwars in die krop as ons altyd deur dieselfde mense afgekraak word… gewoonlik mense wat op hoorsê te werk gaan… maar dis mos maar ons ou nasietjie se groot probleem… ons gun nie die son oor ‘n ander nie…

Jy is reg oor die vak keuses… tegniese skole het bv heel ander vak keuses… wat ek bedoel het met my 1ste post oor die vrystelling was eintlik vrystelling om by n tersiere inrigt8ng te gaan studeer na skool en ek het verkeerdelik universiteits vrystelling geskryf… almal kan seker nie universiteit toe gaan nie… daar is mense wat iets anders ook wil gaan doen

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13 January, 2015 at 07:14
#193 Grasshopper

@Anti Green: knowing Bishops writes NSC now, I wouldn’t want my kid going there. IEB exams is essential. My daughters name is down at Herschel might have to look elsewhere now…..

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13 January, 2015 at 07:08
#192 kosie

@Cappie: Die resultate wat daar gewys word bevestig eintlik net dat daar legio skool keuses in Pretoria is om jou kind na toe te stuur en miskien is die beste skool vir elkeen die naaste skool.

Ek praat onder korreksie, maar vermoed dat Affies seuns en meisies se leerling vakkeuses hulle in staat stel om Universiteitsvrystelling te kry. My bron is enkelle affies kinders en is dalk nie 100% reg nie.

Ek weet meeste skole op daardie lys het kinders wat se vakkeuses hulle nie instaat stel om vrystelling te kry nie en voel ek moet ‘n mens sulke leerlinge uithaal vir die doeleindes van die oefening anders vergelyk ‘n mens nie appels met appels nie maar affies met die res

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13 January, 2015 at 06:55
#191 Rugbyman

@Bosveldpa: net so terloops… tukkies het 2 jaar gelede ‘n studie gedoen oor 1ste jaars wat inskryf en dan suksesvol klaarmaak… die skool wat die beste resultate getoon het in die studie was Garsfontein… maar ek neem aan jy sal dit ook afmaak en afkraak…

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13 January, 2015 at 06:33
#190 Anti Green

@Grasshopper: Not really Hopper, Grey Bloem is about 15k a year and they are in the top 20. Maybe parents just want their kids at Bishops. Like all parents would love their kids to go to Grey Bloem.

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13 January, 2015 at 06:32
#189 Rugbyman

@Cappie: baie geluk aan ahm! Hulle akademie is voortreflik! Geen twyfel daaroor nie… ons het onsself egter nie die toekenning gegee nie, die departement van onderwys het… ek het ook darem nooit gese die ander skole soos affies meisies of seuns is sleg nie het ek? Nee wat, ouers in pretoria oos is bederf met top skole in n radius van 10km….affies, menlo, boys high, garsies en kloof… jou vriend van die bosveld reken egter dis 2km want sy denke strek nie verder as affies en menlo nie… werklik hartseer…

@Bosveldpa: darem ongelooflik hoe jy altyd garsies wil afkraak!? Jy n obsessie of is dit maar net jou minderwaardigheid? Voel jy dan beter as jy ander afkraak? Ai… ek kry jou eintlik jammer… terloops jy wat so issue het met sg. Koop… jy geweet hoeveel menlo “koop” en tog besing jy hulle lof? Ag nee wat… soos die engelse se: I pity you… Jy behoort jou eintlik te skaam om skole so af te kraak. Dis per slot van rekening kinders, ouers en onderwysers wat n skool maak so eintlik sê jy hulle sleg… sies man!

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13 January, 2015 at 06:30
#188 Grasshopper

Let’s be honest here, if you are paying the R95k day boy fee at Bishops you expecting high marks as a minimum, it’s 3x the amount of a gov school. This is not a surprise at all. All the top academics go there too…

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13 January, 2015 at 06:03
#187 Cappie

@Bosveldpa: Hier is daai uitslae:
http://www.affies.co.za/news/930#.VLQvLCoZf-s.mailto

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12 January, 2015 at 23:07
#186 Gungets Tuft

@beet: In my daughers matric year at her little private school their matric maths class got 18 distinctions from 23 girls and I think the rest got B’s. Superb teacher, was available on Whatsapp all year, the girls were stoked about maths. Obviously the kids do the work, but the teacher is hellovu important.

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12 January, 2015 at 17:42
#185 beet

@Playa: Geez if you did not get an A for maths at Bishops you are part of a minority

80 students with Maths A’s, 69 without.

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12 January, 2015 at 16:53
#184 Playa

@beet: Insane return indeed. Puts things into perspective, somewhat.

Bishops and sister school Herschel write the NSC.

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12 January, 2015 at 16:45
#183 Bosveldpa

Wiskunde blyk ‘n probleem te wees in baie skole!
Om Rugbyman reg te help het 367 kandidate matriek geskryf en slegs 273 met Universiteits vrystelling geslaag.
Cappie is dus korrek met die Dept se onverduidelikbare manier van “rankings”.
Soek gerus Eye Witness News (EWN) se ranking van vorige model C skole om die ware prentjie te kry. Garsfontein is 12/15 gerank. Ongelukkig sal julle moet begin akademiese kandidate ook koop .
Die drie topskole lê in ‘n radius van 2km van mekaar.
Een en drie word geskei deur ‘n teerpad met die naam Lynnwoodweg.
Vier is ook in Lynnwoodweg…. en so kan ons die groepering doen .
Ongelukkig slegte nuus vir die manne met seuns, as julle werklik die beste wil wees wat die akademie betref gaan julle ‘n paar rand opdok vir die geslagsverandering.

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12 January, 2015 at 16:40
#182 beet

Okay the Bishops results are up and are insane but maybe just goes to show what happens when a private school takes on the NSC.

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12 January, 2015 at 16:05
#181 beet

@Playa: Oh wow. Thanks. I just assumed Bishops would fall under IEB.

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12 January, 2015 at 15:56
#180 Playa

@beet: It would be interesting to see where Bishops lie as they write the NSC and not IEB. Would be a good (admittedly not sufficient) measure of the private vs ‘good’ public school debate – without the IEB exam.

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12 January, 2015 at 15:44
#179 beet

@BoishaaiPa: Okay I’ve added 2 of the KZN academic heavyweights for a bit of a game changer at the top of the list

I don’t have Bishops yet so maybe I should talk to quickly.

Hilton also outstanding for now and reading their report it seems like they did very well too.

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12 January, 2015 at 15:37
#178 BOG

@Grasshopper: No wonder. Ponta is Kosi Bay Ext. 1. Its not Mozambique proper. Mozambique proper, begins at Xai Xai, even Inhambane. But I did see Ponta, but BEFORE the influx of SAs and their 4X4s and believe it or not, in a Russian helicopter or a flying kitchen. And we had to be careful where we walked because landmines.@valke: Met 119 wette/artikels/reels wat hulle van die arbeidsmark uitluit, sal hulle besonderse sakemanne moet word om in SA te presteer.

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12 January, 2015 at 15:06
#177 Cappie

@valke: Sonder twyfel is van die beste mense in die sakewêreld die wat gemiddeld presteer het op skool en gebalanseerd was. Dit is seker ook nog so en sal so bly. Dit lyk egter of die gemiddeld van ‘n D so 20 jaar terug vergelyk moet word met ‘n B of selfs ‘n A. Probleem is, as jy nie die A’s kry nie, kry jy nie toelating in die Universiteite nie, en dis die dilemma. Daar is baie druk op die kinders om goeie punte te kry om in die onderdrukte omstandighede ‘n geleentheid oop te veg teen mededinging vir dieselfde geleenthede. Dis ‘n krisis, aangesien die een wat hard werk en miskien nie oor dieselfde natuurlike talent beskik as die Einstein wat deur cruise, die geleentheid kry, en dan val hulle uit op Universiteit. Ons kinders en so ook onsself was nog nooit in so onregverdige, onregmatige situasie betrokke nie. Dis ‘n mededinging teen mekaar vir ‘n 40% geleentheid wat beskikbaar is, teen die 60% wat gesukkel word om gevul te word…. Ja, julle weet waarvan ek praat!

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12 January, 2015 at 13:52
#176 Grasshopper

Where is GT, I was wanting his thoughts on a Suzuki Grand Vitara….?

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12 January, 2015 at 13:45
#175 Grasshopper

@BOG: I was in Ponta, not bad but what a mission to get there. For the Gautengalengers it’s probably closer, but good luck to them going there. Every vaalie and his cousin is there with a boat….complete mess….I’m talking off season here in Ballito, cannot be beaten…and I have been to many beaches globally, including Olu Deniz and beaches in Sardinia, Greece, Fiji etc….it’s subjective again..

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12 January, 2015 at 13:38
#174 BOG

@Cappie: Cappie, ek het verwys na n finansiele prystoekenning wat jaarliks deur Anglo gemaak word/was. Dit was aansienlik(R250 000 ??) en is toegeken aan die top 10 skole in SA tov Wiskunde en Wetenskap. GCB was n ontvanger en dit het meisieskole ingesluit. Om hulle nou op 15 te sien, verbaas my iewat. Ek is nie seker of AA steeds hierdie toekennings maak nie of watter formule deur hulle gebruik word of was nie.

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12 January, 2015 at 13:38
#173 valke

@Cappie: Hi Cappie. Geen rede om verbaas te wees nie.

Met Mnr De Beer daar as hoof, word daar hard gewerk aan hulle akademie.
Beste graad vrystelling % in jare. Jy het nie onderskeidings nodig om suksesvol te gaan studeer, of suksesvol te wees nie.

Daar is leerlinge daar wat nog hulle merk sal maak in die sakewereld.

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12 January, 2015 at 13:34
#172 BOG

@Grasshopper: I have seen those beaches and I dont know where in Mozambique, you were. But you either had too much of something or you were in Lesotho, thinking that you were in Mozambique. The development of the local tourist industry in KZN was boosted in 76/77 when Mozambique became inaccessible.It makes sense that the reverse would happen.

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12 January, 2015 at 13:31
#171 BOG

@kosie: I find it equally unbelievable that a school can have an average of 3.5 distinctions per student. To recall the example of Grasshopper, one of their OBs, years back, had 3 and he went on to become a Nobel prize winner in science. Three distinctions, was the exception- not the norm

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12 January, 2015 at 13:24
#170 Grasshopper

@BoishaaiPa: Now you want the Southern Suburbs schools with you, when in rugby you want a Winelands/WP Country & Districts team….ta ta ;-)

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12 January, 2015 at 13:23
#169 Grasshopper

@Anti Green: Comparing IEB to NSC is like comparing apples with oranges…

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12 January, 2015 at 13:22
#168 Grasshopper

@kosie: Yes, divide those by two to get the boys numbers…all of those schools are co-ed…we talking boys schools here are we not?

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12 January, 2015 at 13:20
#167 Grasshopper

@BOG: you going to the wrong beaches then china, go have a look at Shaka’s Rock, Salt Rock, Tinley Manor, Zinkwazi and Princes Grant….Mozam is pretty kak!

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12 January, 2015 at 13:18
#166 Cappie

@BoishaaiPa: Ek is verbaas om te sien dat EG Jansen so laag is, en ook Maritzburg, Glenwood en Jeppe. Speel hulle net rugby? En Dale en Louis Botha? Menlo Park het goeie resultate. Grey goed gebalanseerd.

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12 January, 2015 at 13:17
#165 BoishaaiPa

6 of the Top 10 from WP…We rule again!…

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12 January, 2015 at 12:46
#164 Anti Green

@beet: Hi Beet I have just emailed you the Matric Results for MHS 2014

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12 January, 2015 at 12:43
#163 Playa

@BOG: It’s the function of thee human brain…you hold on to rare & special moments…I bet you still remember the day you popped your cherry as if it was yesterday

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12 January, 2015 at 08:36
#162 beet

Sorry on the list above I left out Drostdy who had 140 students with 6 maths and 2 physics distinctions for 2.90% and 40th place.

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12 January, 2015 at 08:34
#161 Playa

@Anti Green: Really? Small wold hey. 1999 side was very good. Produced two SA Schools players. Only lost one game (13-14 to Pretoria Boys).

P.S. That little blonde boy in the picture of the ’99 team in the FNB Derby Day book is Nic Groom. He was the ‘tee boy’.

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12 January, 2015 at 08:28
#160 beet

@kosie: Maximising on potential. I totally agree with this because that is really the true measure of the teaching ability of the teachers as well as the school systems but unfortunately that is one stat we will never be able to get.

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12 January, 2015 at 08:22
#159 kosie

@Grasshopper: Looking at the figures above, the schools with the most matriculats in 2014 was Garsfontein, Outeniqua, Eldoraigne etc. All had more than 300 matriculats. The matric class of Garsfontein is bigger than some schools we regulary mention on the blog! Think of the organising of such a big group!

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12 January, 2015 at 07:20
#158 Grasshopper

PBHS with 286 matrics, wow that is quite a few boys. One would think they would smash most schools in all sports due to sheer numbers. 72 more boyrs than Glenwood to choose from…..

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12 January, 2015 at 07:13
#157 kosie

@BOG: Ek stem met jou saam. Misleiding van ‘n kind is uiters gevaarlik en onregverdig.

Nie almal is in staat om ‘n dokter of ingeneur te kan word nie. As ‘n kind ‘n 40% kandidaat is en hy behaal 40% dan sê ek wel gedaan. As ‘n kind ‘n 60% kandidaat is en hy behaal 50% sê ek die kind het onderpresteer. As die kind 65% behaal sê ek dat hulle hulself oortref het.

Almal het ‘n potentiaal en weet wat dit is. Hoe naby ons daaraan kom hoe beter vir die persoon.

Ek vind dit ook baie moeilik om te glo dat in die normale verspreiding van mense skole vir 28 jaar geen druipeling kan hê nie. Dis amper onmoontlik behalwe as daar ander reëlings met akademiese swak kinders getref word soos om by ander instellings in te skryf en daar die matriek te doen.

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12 January, 2015 at 06:54
#156 BOG

Die regte maatstaf is watter skool het die beste gepresteer in Wiskunde en Wetenskap. AA gee elke jaar pryse uit aan die top 10 skole in die land en as jy daarna kyk, verskil dit nogal van al die skole wat daarop aanspraak maak dat hulle “die beste gevaar het” Ons word met foefies mislei. Dit kan ek nog aanvaar, maar dat die kinders mislei word oor hulle werklike vermoens, hou groot gevare in. Selfvertroue is een ding, maar misleiding, totaal n ander gemors.

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12 January, 2015 at 06:20
#155 kosie

@Cappie: AHMP se uitslae is voorwaar uitsonderlik. Geluk AHMP.

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12 January, 2015 at 06:04
#154 Cappie

@Rugbyman: AHMP spog vir die 28ste agtereenvolgende jaar met ‘n 100%-matriekslaagsyfer!
196 kandidate slaag met 670 onderskeidings (3.41 per kandidaat)
95.9% behaal universiteitsvrystelling.
Moeilik om te glo Garsfontein word bo Affies Meisies geplaas as ek na die syfers kyk, maar ek het verneem die Departement se formule is eenvoudig:
Aantal leerlinge wat slaag + aantal A’s. Dus sal die skole met meeste leerlinge beste kans staan.

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11 January, 2015 at 22:43
#153 beet

@kosie: True. I was hoping for that but those stats are not available on the EWN website.

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11 January, 2015 at 21:24
#152 kosie

@beet: Very interesting reading. I wonder what the % is of the total learners per school that take maths and science. That might give a better indication of the distimction ranking per school in those subjects.

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11 January, 2015 at 21:15
#151 beet

I’ve posted a list of maths and physics distinctions.

Rondebosch are miles ahead of the chasing pack as far as those 2 subjects are concerned.

If anyone can help with the actual numbers of:

Bishops
St Andrew’s in Grahamstown
Hilton 112 matrics
Kearsney 123 matrics – 26 A’s for Physics
Michaelhouse 115 matrics

to complete the Top 50, I would be grateful.

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11 January, 2015 at 20:33
#150 BOG

@Grasshopper: -Many, if not most of the binnelanders, are returning to Mozambique. Lets be honest, no beach or coastal area in SA, compares with that. I did go to the south coast and that was like Orkney-by-the-sea. Destroyed. Most of the Free Staters from Bloem and south, seem to visit the Eastern Cape coastline,from Port Alfred to Kei Mouth- still the best part of the SA coastline. Many have permanent holiday homes there. But, I dont think that the Zulu Kingdom will see me soon, if ever again.Maybe for rugby, but not for R and R.

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11 January, 2015 at 13:32
#149 Grasshopper

@BOG: Boet, nobody from Durban goes to UShaka, we all live up on the hill in Hillcrest or in Ballito, Umhlanga area’s….go there next time. Surprised you weren’t in Ballito with the other half a million binnelanders……..they even set up an Afrikaans speaking church for December. My local shopping centre Tiffany’s in Salt Rock was like Bloem on the coast….Fortuners, Pajero Sports, Trailblazers, Rangers, Hilux’s etc al..

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11 January, 2015 at 06:38
#148 BOG

@Grasshopper: While we are off the subject of rugby, I must mention that I was in your town in December. I went to that shopping mall on the beach front- the one with the expensive shops and the large fish tank inside of it. Was Durban hit by a nuclear device? Heck, I have not been there for a few years and I was absolutely shocked by its state. Granted, its probably not worse than the other inner cities in SA, but eish- heartsore. It looked no better than Maputo, a few yrs back. And believe it or not, its on the NY Times list (at 7 nogal) of 52 places to visit in 2015. The reporter must have been bribed or they paid for his visit

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10 January, 2015 at 16:27
#147 Grasshopper

@BOG: Well it’s Glenwood’s only win over Grey Bloem so whoever posted it must want to remind everyone. I don’t see another win coming for another 50 years…

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10 January, 2015 at 14:34
#146 BOG

@Playa: Strange how well your memories hold up for those “Beat-Grey-Bloem”years. Im happy to say that I was in Africa then- before internet was as common as now. And I only got the results, years later- too late to feel sad about it. Even when I look for GCB/ Glenwood matches on Youtube, the only one which seems available is the 2006 match.

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10 January, 2015 at 14:06
#145 Anti Green

@Playa: Okay, my brother coached Dale I think around that time as well. Your 1999 side was awesome then, they featured in that FNB Derby Day Rugby Book

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9 January, 2015 at 18:27
#144 Playa

@Anti Green: That was 1993. Captained by current coach, Grant Griffiths

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9 January, 2015 at 17:16
#143 Anti Green

@Playa: Wasn’t that the same year your 1st XV were unbeaten. They beat Grey Bloem as well. 1997

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9 January, 2015 at 17:10
#142 Gungets Tuft

@Westers: Ja, figured that out after my edit time expired. Went through a few, got bored and stopped. But the Maths and Science is correct, remembering that Physics and Life sciences are separate.

I must say that my ecperience of having a daughter at varsity have mellowed me a lot when it comes to marks. She got (IEB) 4 distinctions (including Maths, Physics and Life Sciences) and these got her into Rhodes, but other students also made it into the BSC (Biological Sciences) with much lower marks, and the courses basically spend a lot of the 1st semester getting all the students to the same level. Seems a bit of a waste to stress yourself to death to get 90% when a 50%’er is going to be in the lecture with you. I am sure there are things I am not thinking about, but there you go.

The other mellowing I am doing is about subject choices. I think there is too much emphasis on Maths core, double science, accounting, EMS etc. If, as my girl did, you are doings a BSC, sure, do the Maths core and double science. If you are going to do a B.Comm, why stress about the sciences. Do Maths, Accounting and Drama. The presentation skills you pick up with drama will be much more useful in the corporate world than the life cycle of a dung beetle, or the reproductive organs of a lung fish. Those doing law are probably in that position to a greater degree.

When I got to corporate life the first thing they did to try and round off my square edges ( unsuccessfully I might add, hence me now towing, with my edges) was send me on negotiation skills and presentation skills courses, all things I might have learned in drama and debating at school. But those subjects were relegated to the dagga rookers and hippies ( .. SERIOUSLY ) <—- please, please see the smilies .. for the dramatic artists among us .. I genuinely wish I had done drama at school.

For those that are interested – watch this for a much, much better explanation of what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG9CE55wbtY

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9 January, 2015 at 13:40
#141 Playa

@GreenBlooded: I try!

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9 January, 2015 at 13:12
#140 Westers

@Gungets Tuft: You have to go through a couple of students until you find some with distinctions. It then tells you that he is one however many in the school to get the distinction.
For Westville it was quite easy as the first boy in the alphabet got 6 distinctions – so six subjects covered in one hit.

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9 January, 2015 at 12:29
#139 GreenBlooded

@Playa: Thanks for your very kind offer. However I had already ordered my copy online from the source posted by Pedantic. You are a gentlemen indeed!!

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9 January, 2015 at 12:18
#138 Gungets Tuft

@Westers: Just in case my 4-cylinder brain was able to do something, I went to the link, but I cannot see any actual results. All I see is what type of pass they attained and graphics of the school pass categories vs province and national. No subject or symbols. Thought I would give my son a project, he’s quite clever with ‘puters.

Tip on what I might be doing wrong?

Edit – belay that request. If you go to the historical results, then choose 2014, then drill down you get a different graphic which does show the distinctions. Still too much to go through for an unleaded engine, so there you go.

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9 January, 2015 at 09:56
#137 Playa

@GreenBlooded: My boss has some extra copies lying around in his office. Mail me your address (mt.ubumbo@gmail.com) and I’ll have a copy couriered to you.

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9 January, 2015 at 09:47
#136 GreenBlooded

@Pedantic: Thanks!! 8)

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9 January, 2015 at 09:45
#135 Pedantic

@GreenBlooded: Direct from the publisher … http://beta.liomarket.com.shopdirect.co.za/pDERBY%20DAY/Derby-Day—South-African-Schoolboy-Rugby.aspx

The 2007 World Cup Team poster in their school kit also available for R50

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9 January, 2015 at 09:29
#134 All Black

Happy New Year to all. Hope 2015 is a great year for everybody.
With regard to the comments about which system is more difficult perhaps a fairer comparison should be the results achieved at Varsity where all students write the same exams? We can all compare and argue until the cows come home but the proof must be in how students arrive at Varsity and their success thereafter. I can say that the Govt school kids are generally fairing extremely well in the years that I have a vested interest, having kids at Varsity. Personally I am more than happy with the current standard our boys are achieving. It all comes down to the level of EXPERTISE of staff at any particular school, whether Govt or private.

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9 January, 2015 at 09:25
#133 GreenBlooded

Does anyone know if the book “Derby Day – SA Schoolboy Rugby” is still available for purchase and if so – from where? I’ve checked the obvious places – Amazon, Kalahari etc. Would love to get a copy for the coffee table.

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9 January, 2015 at 09:20
#132 Pedantic

@Grasshopper: Where did you find that? It’s a word for word copy of what Beet posted a week ago here … http://blog.schoolboyrugby.co.za/?p=9985

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9 January, 2015 at 09:09
#131 Gungets Tuft

@Westers: Eeisch – it clearly means more to you than it does to me. Karrent be assed to go through all that, I will just go with your numbers. I wonder, if I had done the College LO Elite academy (instead of Maths and Science) whether it would have taught me persistence??

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9 January, 2015 at 09:06
#130 Playa

@rugbyfan: They must really be tired of losing to Queens

As for Dale’s results…I remember when the ’97 class got 100% pass rate…there was a big party because they were the first class to do so in 40 years. We did another6 or so years of 100% passes after that. I guess things have gone back to ‘normal’ now

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9 January, 2015 at 08:47
#129 rugbyfan

@Playa: Is 92% not a good result for Dale when you were there you folks were getting about a 85% pass rate.

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9 January, 2015 at 08:28
#128 rugbyfan

@Grasshopper: Wonder why Grey PE is buying players they made a big noise about not doing this last year maybe they trying to pull a double on GCB.

Or maybe more they want to stop losing to Queens

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9 January, 2015 at 08:25
#127 Westers

@Gungets Tuft: You have to do a bit of searching, first to find the school and then go into several of the individuals results (Exam no. only) where it shows what distinctions they got, how many there were in the school, province and national.
Pity names are not published. You can see some for previous years.
Here is the link:

http://matric.ewn.co.za/

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9 January, 2015 at 08:12
#126 Gungets Tuft

@star: Buy a donkey, and all the best to you too, may your successes be many and big, the failure few and just fender benders.

Indeed, high school year 5, makes me feel old. My daughter already into the final year of her degree, this year and then she decides to take me on with my promise of an honours year wherever she chooses. Going to need a few breakdowns to fund that. Off to work I go …

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8 January, 2015 at 17:49
#125 star

@ GT- The original post regarding the Maths and Science distinctions was by Westers. Hopefully he will be able to answer you. Can you believe that it is our boys’ last year at High school. Where has the time gone? I am not sure how to wish a tow truck driver a prosperous New Year without feeling a little conflicted. The overriding intention is sincere though.

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8 January, 2015 at 17:32
#124 Gungets Tuft

@star: Where did you find the number of College Maths and Science distinctions. I can’t find them anywhere?

As for the LO vs Maths and Science – I wasn’t aware they were mutually exclusive. Perhaps having 400 boys living in the BE makes them more “life aware”, who knows.

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8 January, 2015 at 16:47
#123 Playa

@star: He’s probably just waiting for the Kilkenny’s to kick in then he’ll attack

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8 January, 2015 at 16:25
#122 star

@ Playa- How does that song go when the oke is caught in the shower with the other woman – it wasn’t me. I agree that comment was a touch insensitive. I was going to warn Westers that old GT would blow in from the tundra breathing fire and brimstone.

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8 January, 2015 at 16:11
#121 Playa

@star: Not defensive at all. I am very well aware of Westville’s prowess on the academic front…maybe I just feel that last sentence re College focusing on the wrong area was a unnecessary/arrogant…I’m still looking for the smiley face…

@ Westers – Re Dale’s marks. Nowhere near acceptable. 92% pass rate, and I don’t have the breakdown et al. It is probably in line with our historical rate over the last half century
On a positive note, at least our cricket side is still unbeaten

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8 January, 2015 at 15:53
#120 Westers

@Playa: What were Dale Colleges marks like?

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8 January, 2015 at 15:26
#119 Grasshopper

Off topic; Grey High busy in Transfer market over the summer.

Little private school Southdowns, who play in the Beeld Trofee competition for small schools, has built up a bit of a reputation over the last few years for “acquiring” top school players from prominent Border high schools. Now it’s their turn to experience what it’s like to lose a promising youngster.

Kwezi Mafu, a highly rated loose-forward who represented the Blue Bulls under-16 team at Grant Khomo Week in 2013 and in 2014, has left Southdowns College in Centurion, Pretoria to join Grey High School in Port Elizabeth.

Apart from Mafu, Grey High’s other significant new faces are highly rated centre Josiah Twum-Boafo from Graeme College in Grahamstown. who represented the EP Country Districts under-18 team at Craven Week 2014 and hooker Siwe Masoziwe from Newton Technical who played for EP at Academy Week in 2014.

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8 January, 2015 at 14:30
#118 star

@ Playa- Why are you so defensive? You do know that last year Westville had a better year and with the same number of students had more A’s than College and Glenwood put together. They also had the top pupil in the country. Also although you are statistically well off course, we can get a feel for the” quality of extra numbers” that would be . The cream is always taken upfront which is contrary to what you are trying to imply. The original comparison was not made by me. I got involved when you broke rank with what has been up until now commendable commentary. There is nothing juvenile about the need for proper recognition and the ability to doff one’s cap and celebrate excellence. Now if only I could extrapolate that into SA at large .What a place we would have.

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8 January, 2015 at 14:20
#117 Playa

@star: extrapolation in this case would be as inaccurate as my assumption. Ok I lie, mine is more inaccurate. Simply because we don’t know what the quality of those extra numbers would be. The point I was driving is you have the numbers to yield a greater number of distinctions, in fact you would have to be ashamed if either College or Glenwood achieved better. Hang your head in shame re LO

I wont take anything away from Westville, always been a fine academic institution, and you have achieved a great feat. I just felt that the comparison you made was a bit…juvenile…for a lack of a better word.

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8 January, 2015 at 13:32
#116 kosie

@valke: No he will not be with the Lions this year. He is pursuing a varsity course which will afford him very little time for competitive sport. At most a social game of cricket.

You are right. The Lions U/19 group will match any other union in 2015. The Eldoraigne talent at the Lions will add value to the team. Some great kids there and I have known them from primary school.

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8 January, 2015 at 13:18
#115 star

@ Playa- I was looking for the smiley face and then thought you might actually be serious. You have to use the concept of extrapolation. In the case of GW you would get 12/237 x 34= 2 more maths distinctions ie 14. That means that Westville had almost 400 % more. Statics was never my strong point but I would consider that to be more than significant . I also consider it significant when one suburb of Durban has 40% of the provincial top10 (with the capital city having 0)
@ Crashball- I am sure I did some Cambridge A levels when I was at Hilton. Maybe I should dust off the certificate so that Grassy will employ me. You are both right. You need a good foundation based primarily on a solid work ethic but ultimately you will be benchmarked on your top qualification and what experience you bring to the table.

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8 January, 2015 at 13:12
#114 valke

@kosie: Your kid one of the Lions boys this year ?

Some good talent from Eldoraigne there this year.

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8 January, 2015 at 12:46
#113 rugbyfan

Just for interest sake chaps a school in Cape Town this last year got 30 of there pupils in Grade 12 after there Sept trial exams to write papers from the 1984 final exams of the old Cape Education Depart. Between these 30 boys got 36 A’s in there Sept trial exams and for the 1984 papers only managed 19 A’s

Food for thought have education standards gone backwards.

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8 January, 2015 at 12:21
#112 Anti Green

Here is something to fuel the fire about our education system and the educators. I agree with you Hopper about the Gov Teachers, its much the same about the Police and Nurses. Don’t shoot me its just something I came across and have edited it a little.

By Mike Smith (Mike Smith’s Political Commentary)

6th of January 2015

It is with comical amusement that I witness another farcical Matric result chapter.

You can read my previous reports of how Matric results are cooked, massaged and manipulated, over here

Scandal of the manipulation of the Matric results

Truth about the Matric results surfaces

Stuff education: Just give them a Matric certificate

I mean, who are they kidding? The matric results are not a true reflection of the state of education in this country. The certificate is not even worth the paper it is written on.

Every year there is controversy and scandal when the Matric results come out. This year is no exception and reports of large scale cheating and copying of exam papers are surfacing. Seven of the nine provinces reported large scale cheating with Kwazulu Natal and the Eastern Cape as the worst.

Matric cheating scandal spreads to more provinces

This is where we see a huge dilemma. You actually have to be intelligent enough to know how to cheat. These idiots are so stupid that they cannot even cheat properly even when the pass mark is set as low as 30%. Evidence proved that the invigilators helped the students by dictating answers to them (some false) and in one case 40 students had all the answers word for word the same.

Umalusi CEO Mafu Rakometsi said pupils provided exactly the same right answers and exactly the same wrong answers.

Giving an example, he said whoever gave the dictation to pupils said “go ahead” and the pupils wrote “go ahead” on their answer sheets.

I mean, how stupid can you get?

So my question is this: Are we now going to appoint supervisors to supervise the supervisors? These people should be sworn in under oath and if found guilty of dishonesty and breaking the oath they should be thrown in jail.

Does a Matric certificate matter? Not in a country where the president has a grade three qualification and is for all intents and purposes a functionally illiterate moron.

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8 January, 2015 at 12:17
#111 Grasshopper

@kosie: Agree, and then 60% in a decade.

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8 January, 2015 at 11:57
#110 Crash Ball

@Playa: Thank you. And i will keep all that in mind @kosie: It will be difficult and you are right… there should be a plan. @Grasshopper: That is hectic… but really well done on him for doing it and helping all the kids.

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8 January, 2015 at 11:52
#109 kosie

@Playa: You are 100% correct. I was fortunate to have written the Oxford O and A levels when at school. I passed A levels when I was 16 and my parents wisely sent me back to SA to do std 9 and 10 again. I am no Einstein, more the village idiot, but was promoted 2 years ahead of my age at the end of std 6 when I went overseas as that was where they tested me.

Our standard is not the problem. The problem is the acceptance of a lower pass rate. If you have 33.3% you actually don’t know 67% of the work. A change to 50% as a pass rate would be the first change I would make to our system if I could

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8 January, 2015 at 11:51
#108 Grasshopper

@Crash Ball: A mate of mine is a teacher here in Ballito at Ashton, the poor guy needs to know 3 different syllabi for kids writing different systems…..IEB, Cambridge and Queensland (Aus)…..only a handful of kids are doing these other ones. So he gets paid the same but needs to teach 3 different syllabi….just crazy!

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8 January, 2015 at 11:46
#107 kosie

@Crash Ball: You are right. The general quality of education in South Africa is not what it should be. The question is, how do we rectify it?

I don’t have all the answers but it would help if there is a 5,10 year plan with actions to rectify the problems.

Anyway, hope you enjoy this year what ever it is you are going to do.

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8 January, 2015 at 11:44
#106 Playa

@Crash Ball: Great stuff! I had no idea we had a school in SA that sits for the Cambridge exams.

Just be careful not to take the mindset that you are portraying with you to varsity. A lecture hall of 300 students is a different monster to a class of 57 split in 3 smaller classes. Also bear in mind that in as much as the government education system is in ICU, education is not just about that easy exam at the end of the year, good teachers in good schools are aware of this and take the time to go beyond the curriculum. Exams may be different, but your knowledge is not necessarily more superior than an IEB or NSC matriculant.

Well done on getting through the challenging Cambridge, I wish you well or the coming years. Stay humble.

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8 January, 2015 at 11:43
#105 Crash Ball

@kosie: I agree with you totally on that… I know there are amazing schools.in pretoria. I live here for about 2 years now. But im just saying that the system is flawed. Not the schools or teachers.

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8 January, 2015 at 11:37
#104 Playa

@Westers: Careful now…remember you have 34 and 36 more boys than Glenwood and College respectively, which, if you do the maths, is more or less the difference (percentage and number wise) between the number of distinctions Westville got in Maths.Interestingly, if we were to (incorrectly) assume that the boys who would take MC and GW to 271 were distinction material, both schools would clap Westville in Physical Science. But let me not assume about an unknown unknown.

P.S. Maybe College is NOT focussing on the wrong thing, but just know how to get the easy marks

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8 January, 2015 at 11:33
#103 kosie

@Crash Ball: Well let me add my 5 cents worth. You are the same age as my son who wrote matric in 2014. This is not about him, but for the record, he got more than 1 A in matric.

He attended a top Gov school in Gauteng which has been amongst the top 10 academic schools for the past 10 years. Their teachers, and Hopper is right here, are just as good if not better than any private school teachers. I am not trying to say the one is better than the other but just that there are great teachers in all spheres of schooling.

Dedicated teachers that not only walk the extra mile, but runs the extra marathon, are in both private and gov schools. The quality of the teaching staff from the Head Master to the teachers is what defines and makes a school great. We are fortunate to have such schools in Pretoria.

The point is, there are great schools and not so great schools in both the gov and private sector. Whether the IEB is of a higher standard to the gov matric is debatable and I am not convinced there is a big difference in standard of the papers. What is obvious is that private schools tend to have a higher pass rate due to better resources.

I attended a private school from your neck of the woods and to be honest, it only gave me an opportunity to study at a university. Once there I suffer just as much as the other souls. So, support your school but have an open mind about others as well!

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8 January, 2015 at 11:30
#102 Crash Ball

@Grasshopper: We shouldnt let these people that can make a true contribution to our country leave so that they can do it somewhere else… Sad sad sad.

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8 January, 2015 at 11:30
#101 Grasshopper

@Crash Ball: Yep, my sister left because after 20 years of teaching was still earning less than R20k a month, disgusting! She is now the bread-winner in her household in the UK earning around 50K GBP per annum..

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8 January, 2015 at 11:24
#100 Crash Ball

@Grasshopper: That is definitely true… It is just very sad to see how some of the kids in our country don’t get the opportunities they deserve. Very good education should be given to all.. AND FOR FREE!!! The government should make sure that the teachers are paid well to ensure that good people will take teaching up as a career.

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8 January, 2015 at 11:19
#99 Grasshopper

@Crash Ball: agree, solid base is good. What is to say the Gov school teachers are not teaching other systems/syllabi in addition to the Gov one? It’s only the exam that is not great. I wrote the IEB paper from 1995 as a trial for my finals in 1996. There are some excellent teachers in the Gov system who are not stupid. Just because you pay alot for something doesn’t mean it’s better….I think we need to give massive credit to the Gov school teachers. They have huge classes, are paid a pittance and don’t have the same resources, but they getting kids through the system….they deserve medals!

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8 January, 2015 at 11:12
#98 Pedantic

@GreenBlooded: Seems the UK are 5 to 10 years behind us … Boksmart has been going for 5 years and addresses exactly what their concerns are.

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8 January, 2015 at 11:02
#97 Crash Ball

@Grasshopper: And that i definitely understand. But compare the quality of the system when you were at school to what it is like today. A good foundation needs to be built somehow and it starts with the quality of your schooling…. There is only one formula i believe in at my young age of 18 and id say it is hard work… But i just feel that scholars with the quality of today’s system aren’t getting the best opportunities to succeed.

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8 January, 2015 at 10:49
#96 Grasshopper

@Crash Ball: Just to add, all that good marks in school do is help you get into University and all a degree does is tells an employer you are capable, that’s it. In the end ‘experience’ counts for quite a bit more.

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8 January, 2015 at 10:46
#95 Grasshopper

@Crash Ball: Mate, again University is a stepping stone and doesn’t guarantee success. I have an Honours degree in Economics and an MBA, I have never been asked to produce either of these certificates for job roles over my career. I did a normal National Senior Certificate. Well done to the St Charles boys though, they have chosen that exam. I can list a few others that schools could choose. My point is by writing a ‘harder’ exam it doesn’t mean success. In my day the private schools guys dropped out the most as they were just partying it up on daddy’s money, enjoying the clubs etc…..there is no exact formula for success….

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8 January, 2015 at 10:43
#94 GreenBlooded

@Grasshopper:

I had a Mr Englebrecht in Std8 – probably the best teacher I ever had for any subject ever. The a Mr York in Std 9 and Goldblatt in Matric – Eish. Let’s just say it started out great and got progressively worse. The Electronics class was at the top of the McDonald Rd block above the art rooms.

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8 January, 2015 at 10:37
#93 Crash Ball

@Grasshopper: Go look at the university drop out statistics across the country. The students who did Cambridge generally finish the degree they started. Of the Class of 2008 we have 7 Medical Doctors now who graduated in 2014. That is 8 % of the grade who became doctors….But take her opinion. Im just saying go crunch some numbers and you will see what the statistics say

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8 January, 2015 at 10:35
#92 Grasshopper

@GreenBlooded: You are right, thanks for the reminder. Yes, Mr Goldblatt……how can one forget that! He was in the birds nest classroom right at the top of the school….ish, ish!!

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8 January, 2015 at 10:31
#91 Grasshopper

@BOG: That was my favourite Biology lesson ever, it was very practical and I learnt quite a bit about the human body…

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8 January, 2015 at 10:30
#90 Grasshopper

@Crash Ball: OK, so you about 19, what do you really know about the real world out there? I hire people monthly and what I can say it that your matric results or exam you write mean nothing in the real world. Some of my best staff were average students at school, they just have common sense. Also, a teacher with 30 years experience in all the systems we talking about knows a thing a two, so I’ll take her opinion over a kid who has just passed matric a year ago.

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8 January, 2015 at 10:28
#89 BOG

@Grasshopper: Biology they do only on excursions, like the one you had in Grahamstown

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8 January, 2015 at 10:26
#88 GreenBlooded

Getting back to rugby matters – quite interesting:

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Risks-of-youth-rugby-need-probe-20150108

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8 January, 2015 at 10:23
#87 GreenBlooded

@Grasshopper: In Std 6 & 7 we took “General Science” which was a combination of Biology and Physical Science which were subjects in their own right from Std 8-10. Physical Science had 2 components to it – Physics and Chemistry. Not sure if that’s still the case.

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8 January, 2015 at 10:22
#86 Crash Ball

@Grasshopper: I wrote the exams in 2014 and I have have seen what the IEB and the government system looks like. And in honesty my mates and i have a good laugh sometimes when we see what the rest of the country sees as “Difficult”… We covered most sections of the IEB and Government matric syllabus in our grade 10 year when we did IGCSE and when we do the AS and A levels there is no comparison… Some boys leave the school because they struggle academically and will then go to schools like College. Where they were achieving 25% in subjects at St Charles with Cambridge, they now suddenly get high 70s. That just goes to show.
Cambridge is the best.

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8 January, 2015 at 10:22
#85 GreenBlooded

@Grasshopper: TD and Electronics are hardly ‘blue collar’ subjects. The electronics offered at Glenwood was called Technika Electronics in my day – I was in the first class who ever took this subject and it was highly theoretical with a practical components involving experiments and a simple design project. TD also has obvious application in the engineering and architectural professions.

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8 January, 2015 at 10:20
#84 Grasshopper

@beet: What happened to Biology and Chemistry? Do they fall under the ‘Sciences’ now…

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8 January, 2015 at 10:19
#83 beet

@star: @Westers:

I like the “hard” Maths and Physics angle.

It seems to provide something a lot more meaningful than 100% pass rate.

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8 January, 2015 at 10:16
#82 Grasshopper

@Crash Ball: Unfortunately I have some bad news for you, the Cambridge exam isn’t any better than IEB. My sister is Head of Maths at a private school in the UK having taught here for 20 years, she says the curriculum is not harder, just different. The UK places more emphasis on reality or real-time use of Maths and Science, whereas SA IEB is more ‘pure’ maths. That is for A, O levels and Cambridge….she has experience in them all….sorry

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8 January, 2015 at 10:15
#81 Grasshopper

@star: Eish, no wonder your Open group was so strong, an extra 50 boys to pick from. Agreed Maths Lit or Funky Maths as we used to call it is a waste of time, same with LO….those are not ‘academic’ subjects. In my day Maths & Science was compulsory for boys, which it should be now too including girls. One must also look at the Westville demographic, quite Asian (at the top) and they place huge importance on Maths and Science, especially when their preferred career ‘choices’ for their kids is a profession, usually doctor, lawyer, CA, Engineer etc. Glenwood has a more ‘blue collar’ type of family hence TD, Electronics etc is more popular. These are generalisations but they do have a degree of truth to them…….I find Asian families are also more willing to pay for extra lesson’s etc if their kids are struggling..

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8 January, 2015 at 10:10
#80 Crash Ball

I see everyone here talking and bickering about your respective schools’ results. In the end it doesn’t even compare to what we achieve at St Charles. We do the Cambridge International Examinations which is at a far higher level than any curriculum followed in SA.
In 2014 we had 3 Boys out of 94 with 7 Distinctions( which is the maximum amount of subjects Cambridge and the school allows) 5 with 6 Distinctions and then the list keeps going with the smaller numbers. With our Dux getting 100% in Maths and also came 1st in the world for that subject.

So the matric results may seem pretty for many schools, but when it comes down to the quality of the exams written compared to the pass and exemption rate, St Charles really is in a class of its own

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8 January, 2015 at 10:08
#79 Westers

@star: Some interesting stats I picked up:
Westville had 53 maths distinctions and 35 physical science distinctions out of what looks like 271 registered to write matric. Glenwood had 12 and 10 respectively out of 237 registrations and College had 14 and 11 out of 235. That tells a story in itself.
For LO Westville had 130 (48%) distinctions, Glenwood 105 (44%) and College 185 (79%). It appears College are maybe placing emphasis in the wrong area when it comes to academics.

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8 January, 2015 at 09:41
#78 star

@ Grassy- the 270 was an abnormal year. Back to the +/- 225.
@ Westers- the fact that all schools take LO makes it a moot point as it is a relative stat. You have however raised an interesting point re the quality of an A. There is a big difference between an A in Maths Lit and hard Maths. Maybe the participation in Physical Science and Maths should be included in the discussion. At Westville Boys it is 86% Maths and 80% Physical Science. I was amazed to see that Kearsney only had 60 % doing Physical Science( or did I read Old Schools blog incorrectly).

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8 January, 2015 at 08:41
#77 Westers

@Grasshopper: If you are going to use the A’s per student then LO should be excluded. How LO can be classified as a subject is beyond me. There isn’t even a final exam set for it. It is based on the result at trials and is marked by the school itself.

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8 January, 2015 at 08:15
#76 Grasshopper

Glenwood very vague on results, just mentioning top 3 without actual results; http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/congratulations-matrics-2014

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7 January, 2015 at 21:50
#74 Grasshopper

@beet: I agree, having a failure or two is the real world. Not all kids are academically strong. I’ve even heard of schools suggesting boys be kept back to keep their 100% pass rate. For me the avg no of A’s per student is a far better metric to be judged on. Look at Westville avg 2A’s per student vs KES at 1A per student.

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7 January, 2015 at 18:49
#73 kosie

@beet: A number of schools do exactly what you are refering to. Some schools are very proud of their matric record and openly boast their pass rate of 100% for the last 12 years. I find that almost impossible to believe.

Eldoraigne had a 100% pass rate between 2009 and 2012 but had 1 failure in 2013. We expected anotherfailure in 2014 but with the grace from above and the pressure from below, the candidare passed.

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7 January, 2015 at 18:44
#72 beet

I battled to understand the overall importance of the 100% pass rate stat but now seeing that so many school achieve this feat, I can well believe that there is huge pressure on to match the achievement every year.

I would like to see the matric pass rate measured as a % based on the number who passed final exams divided by the number of students that were enrolled for matric on the first day of the first term. I’ve heard of at least one school that registers their borderline students at other schools so that their 100% record stays intact. I get the feeling they are not the only ones doing this. And there might even be a few who discourage kids from writing altogether for the sake of preserving the 100% status.

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7 January, 2015 at 17:55
#71 Grasshopper

I remember it well it was actually 1996, a group of 10 boys traveled down to Grahamstown in a mini-bus listening to the ‘new’ Oasis ‘What’s the story morning Glory’ CD…hahah! An ex Graeme Head Boy, Nick Kingsley was a new boarder master and driving. He showed us the ‘ropes’ of Grahamstown. We stayed in a B&B so were free to roam at night freely, not staying in the resses like the other schools…..what a great week we had!

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7 January, 2015 at 17:42
#70 Grasshopper

@BOG: In 1995 I attended the Grahamstown arts festival, eish those girls from Collegiate in PE were smoking hot! Managed to get one in the bush on a drunken night….hahah

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7 January, 2015 at 17:23
#69 BOG

@Queenian: Our Maths exam was to count sheep, but at Queens, they used “large print”- they counted cows@Playa: Then things have really deteriorated in King. In my days- the olden days- King convent and QGH had THE girls. If those train tunnels between Stutt and QT could talk.And of course, with the poor QT girls only having QC to choose from, they really smiled when they saw the odd Grey boy . The blue blazer was a welcome respite from the the black and orange

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7 January, 2015 at 17:17
#68 Grasshopper

@Playa: hahah, or imbecile/cretan in 2014! ;-)

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7 January, 2015 at 17:03
#67 Rugbyman

Garsfontein – 100% Slaagsyfer

601 Onderskeidings…

1 met 10 A’s
2 met 8 A’s
15 met 7 A’s
14 met 6 A’s
ensovoorts…

367 Matrieks slaag met Universiteitsvrystelling!

Ongelooflike uitslae!!!

Well done seuns en dogters!

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7 January, 2015 at 16:07
#66 Playa

@Grasshopper: Those were genius marks in ’96

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7 January, 2015 at 15:31
#65 LAEVELDER

……and “man of the match” in Beeld final – Riaan le Roux (5 x A’s) .. Well done yster! what a year !!

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7 January, 2015 at 14:43
#64 Playa

@Queenian: sounds very Dalian…but we had to travel 50km to EL for the girls…not too many options at KHS

(Thank goodness my wife doesn’t read this blog)

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7 January, 2015 at 14:24
#63 Grasshopper

@Queenian: I got 6x B’s in 1996, shows I was a lazy bastard…

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7 January, 2015 at 14:23
#62 Babbelas

Eldoraigne

100 % slaagsyfer
456 onderskeidings
5 leerlinge met 8 onderskeidings
5 met 7
5 met 6
9 met 5

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7 January, 2015 at 13:31
#61 Queenian

@Grasshopper: Wow that’s good she nearly got more in 1 subject than I managed in all mine.

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7 January, 2015 at 13:14
#60 Grasshopper

@Queenian: I know the top Gauteng student was a girl from Affies Girls, 100% for maths and 9 distinctions…

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7 January, 2015 at 12:59
#59 Queenian

@beet: Any chance of getting a list of the Top 25 students for 2014 would be interesting to see what schools they from.

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7 January, 2015 at 12:50
#58 Pedantic

@oldschool: Impressive! Clearly where the smart boys go

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7 January, 2015 at 12:49
#57 Queenian

@Playa: The only time BOG got more than 40% was for his qualification marks to transfer from JJS to Grey.

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7 January, 2015 at 12:40
#56 Queenian

@Playa: Remember back in my day your important things were, food/sport/girls from next door at GHS/Smoking around the corner and then try scrap through with 40%

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7 January, 2015 at 12:38
#55 Queenian

Not sure if kid’s are just a lot smarter these days or the level is lower for example at Queens this year there were a total 36 A’s achieved in my year there were 19.

We must have been a dumb crowd back then.

I think the year BOG finished at Grey Bloem the highest mark was a B for Woodwork.

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7 January, 2015 at 12:36
#54 Grasshopper

Westville Boys results; http://www.wbhs.co.za/?p=4196

270 students, eish they upping their numbers big time. Most big boys schools have around 225…

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7 January, 2015 at 11:49
#53 Playa

@Grasshopper: Bloody Ogive curve…it either worked against you, or for you.It worked against me in most cases

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7 January, 2015 at 11:47
#52 Grasshopper

@Playa: You maybe right, what is also a factor is the Ogive curve, many kids who actually fail are lucky to be ogive’d up…

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7 January, 2015 at 11:35
#51 Playa

@Grasshopper: Imagine how much easier the exams would be if 50% was made the pass mark?

Correct me if I’m wrong, I think in our time (ok I am 4 years behind you – so maybe 50% was a pass in your year), the requirement was 40% for higher grade and 33.3% for standard grade. Papers were much more challenging back then. 50% became a requirement in varsity.

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7 January, 2015 at 11:08
#50 oldschool

KCs 2014 results …….

• 98.4% Bachelor Degree pass (Matric exemption);
• 100% pass rate;
• 45% of Mathematics candidates achieved distinctions (IEB schools’ ave: 26.2%). Two pupils placed in top 1% in SA;
• 35.6% of Physical Sciences candidates achieved distinctions (IEB schools’ ave: 12.9%). Seven in top 48 in SA. 60% of Kearsney boys wrote Physical Science;
• 86% of Music and 47% of Drama candidates achieved distinctions;
• Top 8 EGD candidates in SA;
• A third of boys achieved 3 or more distinctions (total distinctions 234 at an average of 1.9 each).

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7 January, 2015 at 10:40
#49 LAEVELDER

Sorry dis Frederik van Dyk

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7 January, 2015 at 10:29
#48 BOG

@Playa: I would normally not believe too much of what he says, but on this occasion, I do.

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7 January, 2015 at 10:17
#47 Grasshopper

@Playa: 50% should be the pass mark, imagine going to a doctor who only got 35%, he only knows 35% of what he should. In the 90’s 50% was the required pass mark.

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7 January, 2015 at 09:27
#46 LAEVELDER

Twee manne van Nelspruit se Beeld troffee kampioenrugbyspan van 2014 het elk 6 A’s gekry!! Frederick van Zyl en Georg Muller … Well done manne .. breinkrag en spierkrag = great combo!

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7 January, 2015 at 09:25
#45 LAEVELDER

@Rugbyman:

Garsies ook kookwater!! Besig om reputasie te kry van DIE SKOOL in Pretoors!! Well done … sien ook uit na die sport vanjaar!
Sien ons het n friendly teen Kloof net voor Tuks reeks!

Hoop jy en jou familie het n great jaar.. beste een ooit!

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7 January, 2015 at 08:37
#44 Rugbyman

@LAEVELDER: Baie geluk! Nellies is ‘n puik skool!

Sien uit daarna om hierdie jaar weer in die “kryt” te wees met die ovaal bal teen julle…. Ons skuld julle enetjie, onthou?

Ons sal sekerlik mekaar iewers raakloop…

Weereens geluk!

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7 January, 2015 at 08:28
#43 Rugbyman

@valke: Thanks! All schools have problems… I dont think the perfect school exists… But we are trying our best… And at the end of the day giving a child an education is what a school is about even though we on the blog eat, drink and sleep rugby…

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7 January, 2015 at 08:26
#42 LAEVELDER

Trots op Nelspruit ….weereens nr 1 in provinsie

1. Aantal kandidate: 230
2. Slaagsyfer: 100%
3. Gemiddelde % per leerling: 66,5%
4. Universiteitsvrystelling:
NHS = 77%
Mpumalanga = 24%
Nasionaal = 28%
5. Toekennings:
• NHS nommer 1 in die provinsie
• Hoogste Universiteits toelatingsyfer
• Skool met meeste onderskeidings
• Beste vakprestasie in Wiskunde
• Beste vakprestasie in Besigheidstudies
• Beste vakprestasie in English First additional Language
• Madri Wiid no 1 in provinsie
• 3 leerlinge op die top 10 van provinsie
• Frederik v Dyk beste prestasie in Geografie (99%)
• Jac Visser beste prestasie in Wiskunde (98%)

Watch ons atletiek en rugby ook die jaar!!

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7 January, 2015 at 08:17
#41 Playa

@BOG: Here’s a stat from Prof Jansen, vice chancellor at UFS:

“If 50% was the pass mark, 80% of learners would have failed. If 40% was the pass mark, 69% of the learners would have failed.”

How’s that for a reality check?

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7 January, 2015 at 07:55
#40 valke

@Rugbyman: Well done !

Me and the wife discussed it this morning. Garsies are definitely developing into a very strong, well-balanced school.

It has its problems, like every other school, and I know they are working at fixing these, but feedback from parents and students from your school are mostly positive.

Again, well done, and keep it up !

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7 January, 2015 at 07:53
#39 Rugbyman

Proud to report that Garsies received the reward for the best matric results in Gauteng for a second year running from the department of education…

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7 January, 2015 at 06:46
#38 BOG

@GreenBlooded: Every year, there are countless examples of students who excelled DESPITE their circumstances. The youngest medical doctor ever, coming from a very deprived background, graduated in his very early 20s. He was from Newcastle, if Im not mistaken. Supplementary reading mybroadband.co.za/news/government/116312-hidden-truths-about-south-africas-matric-results.html/

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7 January, 2015 at 05:51
#37 Anti Green

@GreenBlooded: It still is a very colourful place, that bloody awesome. Well done to them. Nelson Mandela famous words: Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world.

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6 January, 2015 at 20:15
#36 GreenBlooded

@BOG:

The top NSC student in KZN was from an insignificant school in an area called Newlands. For those not familiar – it is a very blue-collar formerly ‘colored’ area. I think the 2nd spot went to a girl from a very similar school. Just goes to show……..

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6 January, 2015 at 20:00
#35 BOG

@Playa: I just gave you something to read- no more. But there is no question that standards have declined. And by that I dont exclusively mean pre- and post 94. But as you, yourself, have seen, there as been a marked decline since your days. And obviously, the socio economic conditions in communities have an impact. That is true internationally. And it would seem that a private education would only benefit a student for the first year at varsity in terms of preparedness(if any). Twelve years of private education seems a very high price to pay for such an insignificant advantage. A gap year, doing post matric, would seem a more affordable option.

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6 January, 2015 at 17:37
#34 Anti Green

@beet: If someone has the info, the Sprinbok side in the 80’s. There were something like 5 or 6 Doctors playing rugby and a few business executives. So Rugby is not for the Big and Stupid.

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6 January, 2015 at 17:09
#33 beet

@valke:

Grey PE’s captain and turnover specialist Johann van Niekerk got 6 A’s.

That’s up there with Constant Bekkerling amazing achievement and he is also quite the rugby player for sure!

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6 January, 2015 at 16:54
#32 Gungets Tuft

@Grasshopper: RS Le Roux, DD Stamp all achieved 5 distinctions.

Goi Le Roux was 1st Fifteen, unfortunately 2 weeks too old for Craven week or he would have made the team.

Damon Stamp got 11th place in the Dusi, top paddler, part of the team that won the KZN Schools canoe title for the 8th time in a row.

Would be interesting to know who the failure was, and if he possibly already has a pro rugby contract.

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6 January, 2015 at 16:33
#31 Anti Green

@GreenBlooded: Whahahahahaha

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6 January, 2015 at 16:29
#30 Playa

@BOG: As a disclaimer, let me say I am not a defender of the SA public education system. The system is a massive let down, and has deteriorated badly, especially in the last 15 years.

That said, when I read this article this morning, I think, as smart as the writer tries to be, a pass rate is measured from the people that actually wrote. The fact that only half the 2003 grade 1 class wrote matric last year is neither here nor there. Fact is 75% of those who wrote in 2014 passed. The quality of those passes is not what I am debating here, that’s one for another day. And no BOG, it doesn’t excite me.

Secondly, the focus on this article on the reasons why kids drop out is also skewed. Besides the disastrous education system, he forgets the socio-economic circumstances that lead to a lot of learners dropping out of school. I am of the view that where we fail as stakeholders in education is that we focus a lot at how disastrous the system is and ignore the reality of socio-economic factors. Both these need to be tackled simultaneously, but unfortunately one-sided writers such as “Staff Writer” and the FF+ who released a similar statement will make us blind to certain factors.

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6 January, 2015 at 16:08
#29 BOG

@Grasshopper: You are right. Kids are either a LOT cleverer now than a few years back, or we are fooling ourselves. I think its the latter- no question. But good for them- they do what is presented to them. But we cannot deny the declining standards. A few yrs ago, 2 As, even Bs with a C average, would comfortably ensure acceptance at a medical faculty with a high rate of success. Now? You would be lucky if accepted to study art. Last yr you mentioned a GW Nobel prize winner who got 3 As in matric yrs back. I wonder how many he would have got today?

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6 January, 2015 at 16:05
#28 Grasshopper

KES results; http://www.kingedwardschool.co.za/Content/featured.aspx?id=71

Number of candidates: 204
Pass Rate: 100%
Matric Endorsement (Bachelor’s Pass): 85,09%
Eligibility to Tertiary Education: 99,5%
Total number of Distinctions: 220

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6 January, 2015 at 15:39
#27 GreenBlooded

@beet: Together with a pic of his lighties GW blazer.

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6 January, 2015 at 15:37
#26 Grasshopper

SACS results; 100% pass rate. 42 A Averages of 150 candidates. 94% Bachelors. 400 Subject distinctions. Grade average 73.2%.

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6 January, 2015 at 15:34
#25 Grasshopper

Wynberg Boys, ain’t so hot these; http://www.wbhs.org.za/news/matric-results-2014-congratulations/

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6 January, 2015 at 15:32
#24 Grasshopper

Glenwood once again lagging behind in announcing their results by snail mail. Nearly all the other major schools have created web pages with results, tweeted and facebook’ed them, Glenwood’s website’s last post was ‘Happy New Year’…..come on guys get with the digital programme here…..

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6 January, 2015 at 15:30
#23 Anti Green

@GreenBlooded: If I could rewind time I would have loved to be a nerd.

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6 January, 2015 at 15:30
#22 Grasshopper

@Anti Green: Very good, but I have seen higher in the past. I remember some kids getting close to 100% and that was back in the 90’s. IEB is a higher standard so well done to him. In a girls school, he might not even make the Top 10…

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6 January, 2015 at 15:28
#21 Grasshopper

@BOG: I’m certainly not excited about the results at all, it’s a farce really. I finished in 1996 and back then if a school got 10 A aggregates they were doing well. An ‘A’ was a rarity, now it seems have a class of 200 or so kids can get A’s. It’s scary really. I do think IEB is of a higher standard so those who can afford to write that exam should. I certainly want my girl to write the IEB exam in the future….

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6 January, 2015 at 15:26
#20 GreenBlooded

@Anti Green:

The nerds always have the last laugh though.

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6 January, 2015 at 15:24
#19 BOG

Before you folks get all excited and worked up about the Matric results of 2014, go and read: SAs “real”matric pass rate:42% businesstech.co.za/news/general/76561/sas-real-matric-pass-rate-.41/
And they have not yet had a closer look at the “critical” subjects of maths, science and accounting or seen what happens when the high achievers sit for the benchmark exams at the universities

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6 January, 2015 at 15:23
#18 Anti Green

@Grasshopper: Hopper how clever is this chap from MHS-Robert Perrot is the Dux with 9 distinctions and an aggregate of 92%, his results:

97% for Maths
97% for Physical Science
92% for Accounting
91% for Advanced Programme Maths
91% for Music
90% for Life Sciences
87% for English
86% for Afrikaans
85% for Life Orientation

Walking computer

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6 January, 2015 at 15:21
#17 Grasshopper

Interesting that College got double the number of distinctions KES got….

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6 January, 2015 at 15:14
#16 Grasshopper

Maritzburg College Matric Results; http://www.maritzburgcollege.org.za/home/news/181-matric-results-2014

Our top achievers for 2014 were:

Shalin Govender with 8 distinctions – Life Orientation 97%, Accounting 94 %, English 91%, Afrikaans 90%, Economics 90%, Mathematics 88 %, Physical Science 85% and Life Science 82%;

Lonwabo Lubanga with 7 distinctions – Life Orientation 94%, Mathematics 91%, Physical Science 90%, Afrikaans 85%, Accounting 85%, Life Science 81% and Information Technology 81%

JM Kidd, I Mahomed, DJ Pelser, SS Zakwe, M Ziqubu and K Zulu all achieved 6 distinctions

CR Brown, KM Khoza, RS Le Roux, SL Magubane, TP Moodley, DB Rogers, R Singh and DD Stamp all achieved 5 distinctions

SS Bengu, PH Boshoff, JB Labuschagne, JC Navarro Avila, AT Martin, MN Mkhize, T Sewnarain, TA Smith, RJ Wood all achieved 4 distinctions

Overall we had a 99% pass rate with 209 boys receiving a Bachelors Pass (90% of our boys), 20 a Diploma, and 3 a Certificate pass.
In total we had 419 subject distinctions, with 79% of candidates achieving an ‘A’ symbol for Life Orientation, 72 % of candidates for isiZulu achieving ‘A’ symbols, and 52% of candidates for History achieving an ‘A’ symbol.

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6 January, 2015 at 15:13
#15 valke

Mention should be made about Constant Beckerling from Helpmekaar College.

Lions Craven Week in 2014, and 7 A’s.

Part of triplets that had 21 A’s between them.

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6 January, 2015 at 15:00
#14 meadows

Interesting genetics on that list in Luke Schooling. His mother, Norma, was a Bok hockey player and his old man Doug a provincial water polo player. The young man seems to have inherited both of his parents sporting genes making for a less common Hockey/Water polo combo. The hockey players tend to be cricketers and rugby and water polo often combine

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6 January, 2015 at 14:59
#13 Anti Green

@star: Hi Star no, he goes to MHS this year. It’s awesome to see kids achieve academically. As they carry the brand of being nerds at school.

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6 January, 2015 at 14:31
#12 star

@Anti Green: Are you having a party? As a point of reference from Westville’s side is that 18 boys got 7 or more As(129) including the head boy who was not a bad rugby player making GK and the Westville Firsts. Well done Yuric. It just goes to show that not all rugby players are brawn and little else. The Westville Girls got 30 pupils with 7 As which is madness. In comparison in my year(1981) I don’t think the whole grade got more than 50 As. For my sanity you have to believe that things have got a whole lot easier. Was your boy one of the contributors to the excellent House results?

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6 January, 2015 at 13:30
#11 Anti Green

@beet: Thanks Beet, I only have a Weber thats a Larney Braai area.

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6 January, 2015 at 12:29
#10 beet

@Anti Green: Yeah Happy New Year. Not that easy to get in at MHS so well done. Enjoy the MHS experience as a parent. First rugby game up is Glenwood. Also how about a pic of your braai area so we can cross ref to that youtube vid you posted.

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6 January, 2015 at 11:48
#9 Anti Green

@GreenBlooded: Whahahahaha

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6 January, 2015 at 11:19
#8 GreenBlooded

@Anti Green: Good riddance.

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6 January, 2015 at 11:16
#7 Anti Green

@beet: Hi Beet all the best to you and your family for 2015-“Was” is the tense, I have moved him out of Glenwood to MHS

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6 January, 2015 at 10:35
#6 beet

@Anti Green: I thought you were a Glenwood parent?

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6 January, 2015 at 10:18
#5 Anti Green

@meadows: Thanks Meadows, they are Unbelievable results.

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6 January, 2015 at 08:10
#4 meadows

@Anti Green: Those would be IEB results – which I suspect sets a higher academic standard than the national matric.

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6 January, 2015 at 08:08
#3 Anti Green

@Grasshopper: MHS, Hopper don’t start 2015 like that.

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6 January, 2015 at 07:57
#2 Grasshopper

@Anti Green: What school is that for, all we know is you are anti Glenwood…

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6 January, 2015 at 07:09
#1 Anti Green

@Grasshopper: Hopper how are these academic results:Summary of National Senior Certificate Results November 2014:

Of the 115 boys who wrote the exam:
109 achieved degree entry certificates (95% university entrance passes)
5 boys achieved diploma entry certificates
1 boy did not qualify due to immigrant status
100% of the boys passed

Incredibly strong Maths and Science results:

For Mathematics 45% of all candidates obtained a distinction, 14 of those boys achieved a mark of 90% or more. The average mark for Mathematics was 77%. Top mark 97%.
For Advanced Programme Mathematics, 55% of the class obtained a distinction and the average mark was also 77%. Top mark 91%.

For Physical Science, 39% of all candidates obtained a distinction. The average mark for Physical Science was 72%. Top mark 97%.

27 boys achieved an aggregate of 80% or above.
43 achieved an aggregate of between 70% and 80%.

The average aggregate mark for the whole grade across all subjects was 72%.

If you have Glenwood’s please post them

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