Varsity Young Guns kicks off for under-20s

The under-20 version of the Varsity Cup gets underway on Monday, 10 February with UJ taking in NMMU and the Marties hosting traditional rivals the Ikeys. Both games act as certain-raisers to the Varsity Cup main games for the seniors.Fixtures and results of the Varsity Cup and the u20 Varsity Young Guns

DATE TIME HOME AWAY HOME AWAY
03/02/2014 16:45 UP – TUKS 18 18 UJ
03/02/2014 19:00 UFS SHIMLAS 31 15 WITS
03/02/2014 19:00 UCT 24 47 NWU-PUKKE
03/02/2014 19:00 NMMU 45 29 MATIES
10/02/2014 16:45 MATIES 16 33 UCT Maties u20 42 0 Ikeys u20
10/02/2014 19:00 NWU-PUKKE 40 29 UFS SHIMLAS
10/02/2014 19:00 UJ 15 21 NMMU UJ u20 40 16 NMMU u20
10/02/2014 19:00 WITS 8 53 UP – TUKS Wits u20 2 137 Tuks u20
17/02/2014 16:45 UJ WITS
17/02/2014 19:00 UP – TUKS UFS SHIMLAS Tuks u20 Shimlas u20
17/02/2014 19:00 NWU-PUKKE MATIES
17/02/2014 19:00 NMMU UCT NMMU u20 Ikeys u20
24/02/2014 16:45 UCT UP – TUKS Ikeys u20 UJ u20
24/02/2014 19:00 NMMU NWU-PUKKE
24/02/2014 19:00 MATIES WITS
24/02/2014 19:00 UFS SHIMLAS UJ Shimlas u20 Wits u20
03/03/2014 16:45 WITS NMMU Wits u20 NWU Pukke u20
03/03/2014 19:00 UJ UCT
03/03/2014 19:00 UP – TUKS NWU-PUKKE
03/03/2014 19:00 MATIES UFS SHIMLAS Maties u20 NMMU u20
10/03/2014 00:00 UJ MATIES UJ u20 Maties u20
10/03/2014 16:45 NWU-PUKKE WITS
10/03/2014 17:00 UCT UFS SHIMLAS
10/03/2014 19:00 UP – TUKS NMMU Tuks u20 NWU Pukke u20
17/03/2014 16:45 UFS SHIMLAS NMMU
17/03/2014 19:00 MATIES UP – TUKS
17/03/2014 19:00 NWU-PUKKE UJ NWU Pukke u20 Shimlas u20
17/03/2014 19:00 WITS UCT
24/03/2014 16:45 A2 A3 A1 A4
24/03/2014 19:00 A1 A4 A2 A3
07/04/2014 19:00 Winner SF1 Winner SF2 Winner SF1 Winner SF2

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86 Comments

  1. avatar
    #86 Andre T

    Where are the 1948 stats?

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    13 February, 2014 at 11:52
  2. avatar
    #85 Andre T

    @BOG: Bog, hoekom wil jy die amateur ding doen? Gaan na Bettingworld.co.za en speel vir geld. Ek en Klein T doen dit en hy wen omtrent elke naweek n duisend rand se sakgeld.

    ReplyReply
    13 February, 2014 at 11:49
  3. avatar
    #84 BOG

    @Andre T: Dit is maar n tipiese babbelaas- hy het nie n dokter nodig om dit vir hom te vertel nie. Hy het seker darem al genoeg ervaring om dit te weet. Gaan jy nou vir my se- stap vir stap- hoe om toegang te kry tot die Superbru, of nie?

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    13 February, 2014 at 11:20
  4. avatar
    #83 Andre T

    Boys, dink asb aan Spear, na die Midmar het hy baie sleg begin voel met naarheid en maagkrampe en dit was vorentoe en agtertoe en uiteindelik hospitaal toe met hom. Die dokters het pille en inspuitings gegee en drips opgesit en die man was bleek. Maandagoggend vroeg het hy skielik orent gekom en n padda uitgekots en vandaar het sy herstel versnel. Hy is tans nog in die Harrismith Mediclinic. Word gou beter SpearTjie

    ReplyReply
    13 February, 2014 at 11:14
  5. avatar
    #82 Andre T

    @Woltrui: Apart from Anfield……….Affies had a not so bad weekend

    ReplyReply
    13 February, 2014 at 11:03
  6. avatar
    #81 Andre T

    @BOG: I think we should team up and win this Superboet thing. Lets call us Bog T ?

    ReplyReply
    13 February, 2014 at 11:00
  7. avatar
    #80 Woltrui

    @Andre T: PUCK OFF!

    ReplyReply
    13 February, 2014 at 09:10
  8. avatar
    #79 BOG

    Otherwise, what do you folks think of the latest standings in the Jukskei league? Or is this exclusively a soccer blog?

    ReplyReply
    13 February, 2014 at 08:25
  9. avatar
    #78 BOG

    @Andre T: Bwana Andre, I suppose you served as the buoy, which they had to swim around at the Midmar? Perhaps you can help me get onto this Superbru thing?Beet is either deaf or he does not want my contribution

    ReplyReply
    13 February, 2014 at 08:22
  10. avatar
    #77 Grasshopper

    @Bwana: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! I’m a Liverpool fan too, great season so far…

    ReplyReply
    13 February, 2014 at 08:17
  11. avatar
    #76 star

    @ Gungets- When Westville played House last week , it was remarked that they have 9 matrics in the side as opposed to Westville’s 6. When going through the College team list I could not believe the number of non matrics. There is always debate on the merits of promoting youngsters. I suppose the proof will be in the years to come. Personally I feel that kids should be able to play in their own age groups for at least 2 years to be able to express themselves properly and build the life long friendships that schools are all about.

    ReplyReply
    13 February, 2014 at 08:01
  12. avatar
    #75 Bwana

    What happened at Anfield on Saturday can only be described as a massacre

    ReplyReply
    13 February, 2014 at 07:36
  13. avatar
    #74 Andre T

    @Bwana: Yes thanks Bwana, I watched it last night and almost flipped as Toure almost cost us another game but I would really like to hear from Woltrui what happened at Anfield on Saturday

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    13 February, 2014 at 07:32
  14. avatar
    #73 Bwana

    Hey Mr T, the resurgent Liverpool FC won 3-2 in the dying minutes at Craven Cottage. Thanks for the break from Hoppers incessant harping on about Westville being the top swimming school in the Republic.

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    13 February, 2014 at 07:28
  15. avatar
    #72 Andre T

    @Woltrui: Hey Wol, sorry brother but I did the Midmar Mile over the weekend and couldn’t follow any football results. PLease inform me what the score was at Anfield?

    ReplyReply
    13 February, 2014 at 07:03
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    #71 Gungets Tuft

    @Gungets Tuft: Big games for a very young team. Do we even have a matric boy in the side. 2 or 3 Grade 9’s, couple of Grade 10’s and 11’s. 20Twenty is a hard stage when you haven’t got the big match experience yet.

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    12 February, 2014 at 21:30
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    #70 Gungets Tuft

    @star: Bru – it wasn’t a criticism – all I was pointing out was the importance of club swimming, nothing else. Westville would be weaker without club training. Probably still win, still attract the best, but weaker (not as strong … whatever way you want to say it).

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    12 February, 2014 at 20:34
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    #69 Grasshopper

    @Westers: not bitter at all, I’ve said many times well done for choosing a sport where you only need a few excellent athletes to do well, very clever. I never lost to Westville in my day so not bitter at all, things change…that is life…my view will be the same Glenwood are buying swimming success…

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    12 February, 2014 at 19:30
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    #68 Westers

    @Grasshopper: You are really bitter when it comes to the issue of swimming and the fact that Westville is the top school in the country. Get over it and stop bleating.
    IF Glenwood ever become the top swimming school in SA is will be very interesting to hear your views then.

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    12 February, 2014 at 18:24
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    #67 Grasshopper

    @star: he probably chose Westville because it was closer to home in Pinetown. I don’t know their minds, no one does even you. Westville was the obvious choice for a swimmer then, there are now other options too including Glenwood…

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    12 February, 2014 at 13:25
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    #66 Grasshopper

    @star: he said rugby is not a focus area, I was saying yes it is becoming more of a focus and my mate is ‘strength & conditioning’ coach…

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    12 February, 2014 at 13:22
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    #65 star

    @ Grassy- sorry but you responded to Roger who stated that St Davids had done very well at swimming with 450 boys. Why then would you refer to the rugga coach and how would we be able to gather that fact? DOH. Le Clos could have chosen GW or DHS and kept his coach. Why would he(or the other boys) have to lie about his choice of Westville? He was not coerced in going there. But I suppose you know their minds better than they do. A little arrogant some might say.
    You go on about swimming being individualistic but then pump Jordy Smith who is involved in possibly the ultimate individualistic sport.(surfing)
    Lastly GW have employed ex WOB and national swimming coach Graham Hill. Why would they do that if it is only about the clubs?

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    12 February, 2014 at 13:01
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    #64 Grasshopper

    @star: Two different sports, my mate is the rugga coach…doh! Swimming is individualistic. What else would Le Clos and them say, ‘Ah no it was because of my coach and my ability I got here’, no of course they are going to give credit to their school. The ‘spirit’, well I think all the big schools have that in abundance, just see who is the loudest at these events…

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    12 February, 2014 at 12:37
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    #63 star

    @ Gungets- well lets see why some of the boys chose Westville.
    Chad le Clos because of the spirit
    The 2013 open group on a TV program talked about the support and motivation from the seniors and structures. The also talked about watching their former school mates competing at the World events and how inspirational it was.
    Ronaldson ( who as a schoolboy has just been in Aus with the national team) referred to being lured by the winning culture at Westville.
    Obviously the clubs play a significant part in the development of a swimmer but it would be a bit foolish to bet against those other factors that define a true champion. Surely you as a College man you should understand that you won as many games because of mindset than pure technical ability.
    Grassy- you stated that Westville’s swimming success is a result of the clubs. For St Davids it is the result of the school coach. I had to have a giggle especially since it was a former Westville coach.
    The article you posted on the Westville Invitational gala just showed the teamwork and planning that is required to win galas. Enough said. :mrgreen:

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    12 February, 2014 at 12:30
  25. avatar
    #62 Grasshopper

    @Roger: Yep, my mate is the strength and conditioning coach for St David’s, they are starting to improve under his guidance. He is an ex Westville coach and very dedicated!

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    12 February, 2014 at 11:00
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    #61 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: Agree, Westville swimming club has actually produced most of Westville’s swimmers, not the school…..it’s a very individualistic sport that really requires the sportsman dedication and strength of mind. The school swimming is just the fun team side of it.

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    12 February, 2014 at 10:59
  27. avatar
    #60 Gungets Tuft

    @Grasshopper: Darien still competes. Not going to have the time.

    A good coach is fine, but I guarantee, no matter what the Westville boys say, that the success of the better swimmers on their teams does not stem from school coaching. They all go to club and private coaching. It’s a fact of life in swimming. To be the best you need to swim for 3 hours a day. No school coach offers that. They can offer guided sessions for the whole squad, build a bit of stamina, but the expert stuff on stroke correction etc – club. Prove me wrong.

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    12 February, 2014 at 09:53
  28. avatar
    #59 Roger

    @Grasshopper: they are very competitive in hockey, cricket, soccer and waterpolo too – in JHB anyway. Rugby – not a focus area. Very good school who have read their market very well and focus on that.

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    12 February, 2014 at 09:52
  29. avatar
    #58 Roger

    @Gungets Tuft: narcisistic springs to mind – definitely downgraded to “ex”

    Wasn’t he head boy?

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    12 February, 2014 at 09:48
  30. avatar
    #57 Gungets Tuft

    @Roger: Tjaaa boet, we might need to make one exception to that “ex-College” thing. Naaasty piece of work. Every family has one, I have no inclination to go peering over fences … gnome sane?

    ReplyReply
    12 February, 2014 at 09:45
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    #56 All Black

    Eish College lost cricket to Hilton and MHS. Spoke too soon. Oh well. Well done private schools.

    ReplyReply
    12 February, 2014 at 09:42
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    #55 Grasshopper

    @Roger: Yep, very much like Clifton, small private school getting the cream. With swimming you just need 10 to 15 good swimmers and you can compete, same can be said for waterpolo…

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    12 February, 2014 at 09:40
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    #54 Roger

    @Grasshopper: fantastic to see St Davids up there – 450 boys in the high school and going toe to toe with Westville and Grey and beating much bigger schools. Well done

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    12 February, 2014 at 09:33
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    #53 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: Yeah, College aquatics is not where it should be but the same can be said for DHS, once the KZN powerhouse. Too much to do so little time. You just need a decent coach in there, why not ask Darian Townsend?

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    12 February, 2014 at 09:27
  35. avatar
    #52 Roger

    @Gungets Tuft: how about the Gary Porritt Pavilion :twisted:

    Kidding GT kidding – don’t get you knickers in a knot :wink:

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    12 February, 2014 at 09:18
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    #51 Gungets Tuft

    @Grasshopper: Indeed, nicely balanced. Written by the sports coach and not the marketing department :mrgreen: :roll:

    College has a lot to do to get back to the heady days of the 70’s when Dudley Forde was in charge of swimming (went on to be Headmaster and now has the pool named after him – another mentor). There’s work to do – the issue is the difficulty of clubs in PMB. There is no school that succeeds at swimming without a strong club structure. PMB has Seals, but the club is strangely reluctant to lend a hand to College. Busses and lift clubs are difficult at 5:30am and then the 2 – 5pm shift. Could be that Seals is controlled by an Alex Old Boy that was ritually beaten at school by a very strong College swimming team. There are moves afoot, it will take a little time. :(

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    11 February, 2014 at 19:56
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    #50 Rhino

    @Gungets

    The list of headmasters are there on wikipedia , see below link

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westville_Boys'_High_School

    C. D. Harcourt (1971–1973), P. C. Doyle (1975–1983), R. W. Couzens (1983–1989) and K. Elliott (1990), each served subsequently as Headmaster

    I remember him and then Ted Maddams took over from him.. not sure why he only did a year as headmaster though…

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    11 February, 2014 at 19:10
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    #49 Gungets Tuft

    @Rhino: Commins yes, he was a College old Boy, then left to go to Westville and then back to College.

    Ken Elliot – when?

    I know he had taken time away from College to go to Wartburg, but came back in the early 80’s and was vice Head in 1981 or thereabouts.

    Tried to find a list of headmasters on your website and on Wikipedia, nothing there.

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    11 February, 2014 at 18:24
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    #48 Gungets Tuft

    @Grasshopper: And then I got so absorbed in my memory lane, I forgot to say .. er .. no, no KP oval any time soon. However, perhaps a David Miller lane in our new indoor centre – when he is finished losing cricket balls around the world.

    Perhaps a KP desk in the technology centre, where the kids can sit and send tweets … {koff}

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    11 February, 2014 at 18:09
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    #47 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: FYI, finally a well written and balanced article from Westville, well done! http://www.wbhs.co.za/?p=3057

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    11 February, 2014 at 18:01
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    #46 Rhino

    @Gungets

    H Commins and Ken Elliot were also headmasters at Westville way back then but i remember Mr Elliot.

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    11 February, 2014 at 17:55
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    #45 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: Yeah, very sad. For me it was a Dan Henry now at Crawford La Lucia I believe, best junior primary teacher ever. Toppy for obvious reasons and Rob Hutchison ‘Hutch’ the unconventional Glenwood Afrikaans teacher and ex Dalian…..legends they are!

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    11 February, 2014 at 17:47
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    #44 Gungets Tuft

    @Grasshopper: You are referring to his wife passing away. Indeed, very sad. I cannot claim to have been highly influenced by too many people, but 3 immediately spring to mind, Skonk (obviously – since he was instrumental in getting me into College and then saved my skin one cold winters day when College almost decided they didn’t want me to stick around – long story). Then Hector Commins, the headmaster during my years – brilliant man, few words, huge impact. Then Ken Elliot, maths teacher of note, quiet, immensely principled, as steadfast a man as I have ever met. There were others .. testament I guess to the quality of men in education then .. and now .. still some tremendous gents (and ladies – just in my day they were few at a boys school) that decide that education is a worthy career. Long may that continue – we are all lucky that the best of our schools carry on attracting educators as they do.

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    11 February, 2014 at 17:34
  44. avatar
    #43 Woltrui

    @Ploegskaar: Dankie Ploeg. Baie sterk span. Hoop nie Pierre Schoeman word nou weer in n vasskop stut verander nie.

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    11 February, 2014 at 15:24
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    #42 Ploegskaar

    @Woltrui: FNB UP-Tuks Young Guns: 15 Wyatt Murphy, 14 Dimitrio Tieties, 13 Marquit September, 12 Attie Louw, 11 Keanan van Wyk, 10 Kobus Marais, 9 Kobus Wolmarans, 8 Carel Swart, 7 Corne Cooper, 6 Chris Massyn, 5 Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg, 4 Jean Droste, 3 Pierre Schoeman (captain), 2 Arno van Wyk, 1 Njabulo Gumede.
    Replacements: 16 Vuyo Khathide, 17 Johan van Wyk, 18 Jason Jenkins, 19 Heinrich Viljoen, 20 Theo Maree, 21 Jixie Molapo, 22 Philip Orffer, 23 Matthys Basson.

    Adriaan (Attie) Louw (2013), Arno van Wyk (2012) en Matthys Basson (2013) natuurlik Bolanders. Sien die 2 Bloedworse (Cooper en Murphy) het ook so bietjie hand bygesit.

    Tries: September 3, van Wyk 2, Louw 2, Schoeman 2, Cooper 2, Wolmarans, try, Droste, Basson, Molapo, Tieties, Orffer, Swart
    Cons: Marais 7, Murphy 7

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    11 February, 2014 at 15:01
  46. avatar
    #41 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: yeah, I know Mr Elliott my wife was at DGC when he was there and he mom worked for him there too. Heard he had some sad news, condolences to him. A huge honour that! I can’t imagine a cricket field at College being called the KP Oval ;-)

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    11 February, 2014 at 14:53
  47. avatar
    #40 Woltrui

    Jeewiz Mr Beet that score between Wits U/20 and Tuks correct?? 137-2 Can’t be healthy for Wits ‘s rugby. You don’t maybe have the team sheet of Tuks U/20 available??

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    11 February, 2014 at 14:36
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    #39 Gungets Tuft

    @Grasshopper: Believe it or not, Skonk’s name has not been overused. There is a sports field named after him – below College Road, and Nicholson’s Arch, through which the First 15 run when going out onto Goldstones.

    College only recently renamed the Grade 12 boarding establishment (known as College House till now) to Elliot House, named after Ken Elliott only last year once Ken had retired (he left College after 10 years as Headmaster in 2002 having taught there since about 1975/6, spent a number of years at DGC).

    College regards naming as a very high honour, so much so that I doubt you will ever see a facility named after a sportsman, the service to the school needs to be more than that.

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    11 February, 2014 at 11:11
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    #38 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: Yep, like Skonk his name can be attributed to many things at College, same with Toppy at Glenwood etc. They have proven their greatness already over time. No flash in the pans, not saying le Clos is.

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    11 February, 2014 at 10:43
  50. avatar
    #37 Gungets Tuft

    I dunno hey, I reckon naming a facility after someone who is still competing is a little risky. Now, I am not saying the Chad or Jordy (I admire both of them stukkend) are going to tilt, ala Lance Armstrong, and disgrace themselves, I just think it is better to wait until they have drifted into the part of their career where a slip up is no longer possible. JMO.

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    11 February, 2014 at 09:50
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    #36 Grasshopper

    @Rhino: fair enough, maybe we should name our new pool in the pipeline, the Jordy Smith Aquatics centre then ;-)

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    11 February, 2014 at 05:28
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    #35 Rhino

    @Grassy

    Fkuk you are annoying lol – I would far rather have my swimming stand named after a World class swimmer and Olympic champion that some teacher or businessman. Im sure the kids who come to the school would too. You keep naming them such then….;-)
    Yeah Le Clos is amazing and he still has lots to do still and hopefully win but i dont see any wrong in naming the pool such.. hes a legend to most saffas even at such a young age.. and he is defo a westville legend even if he never swam again.
    If you said ” Chad Le Clos” ot “Totty Hortop” to a bunch of new STD6’s i bet i know who they would know and marvel at… it wont be Hortop i can bet you.. i have no idea who he is too…….
    I do kinda know what you mean cause he still so young and all but still its the new age huh…
    I dont know much about monies and to how and where we have received funds so i cant much comment but im sure its both ways..

    TBH in my year we always had a rivalry with GW but was out of school due to one incident at Kinds Park that caused a massive fight which i was involved in outside Sand Pebbles…. funny though !

    Yeah i know its a pity and if i can somehow stay the extra week i will and watch the game…from what i hearing you guys are gonna be super strong and perhaps we may lose….:-(
    its gonna be a war no matter. :-)

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    10 February, 2014 at 22:31
  53. avatar
    #34 Grasshopper

    @Rhino: no, we only name our fields and buildings after legends, people having sacrificed their lives in war, teachers and businessmen. Toppy Hortop is sure to have something named after him. I mean Le Clos is amazing, but a little early to be naming things after him. It’s like him writing an autobiography now. Yes, from about 1999 both Westville and Glenwood decided to improve sports, Westville focused on swimming and Glenwood on rugby. Westville then realized rugby was very important too so got an injection of cash from somewhere to attract rugby stars from DPHS, that is when things changed around. It was also coincidental that DHS was on the decline so Westville became the main choice. TK and TH kind of went into an arms race and that is when things got competitive and heated. I never really remember any malice in Westville games, nothing like the stuff we had with DHS and College. Times have a changed….yeah a beer would have been good, then you could have seen why I have so many WOB mates, at the end of the day we all just blokes having a laugh…school was 18 years ago, it’s not really that important….

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    10 February, 2014 at 22:18
  54. avatar
    #33 Rhino

    @Grassy

    If you want to name perhaps your old boy rugby stand then how about calling it the “Siyabonga Tom Stand” lol – would be fitting ;-)

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    10 February, 2014 at 22:08
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    #32 Rhino

    @Grassy

    Bru, i never said we were power houses in the 90’s or even before for that matter( these are your words ) – i said and quote “the whole structure and development has been in place for many many years ” – so stat man dont put words in my mouth.. Many many years to me and im sure most is anything more than double digits which is the truth and to be honest was just a figure of speech……the schools vast improvement in most facets of sport and the school in general started in the mid to later 90’s..fact.. so more than 15 years to me is many many..eish u can be pedantic and so i will too. TH is and was instrumental in most of this and yep i concur kudos to him but its not just him its a whole school and system that has been carefully thought out and planned so kudos to all actually and especially to the students.
    I was in 93 and i know we werent amazing but we were a decent year that gave most schools a run for their money in most sports…

    You love to pull stats and try to degrade other schools most of all WBHS then of course KES.
    I have zero interest in digging up GW as its not consequence or bother to me… anyhow i guess each to their own.
    Its a pity i gonna miss the WBHS v GW at Westville by a week but such if life and responisbilities.. would have defo come to have a beer wth you and see who stands behind these irritating comments lol…;-)

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    10 February, 2014 at 22:06
  56. avatar
    #31 Grasshopper

    @Rhino: Here are the D&D gala results when I was at school;

    1991 – Northwood 1st, Glenwood 4th and Westville 6th
    1992 – Glenwood 1st, Westville 5th
    1993 – DHS 1st, Glenwood 2nd and Westville 5th
    1994 – DHS 1st, Glenwood 3rd and Westville 5th
    1995 – DHS 1st, Glenwood 3rd and Westville 5th
    1996 – DHS 1st, Glenwood 4th and Westville 6th

    So Westville, certainly were not the swimming powerhouse in the early to mid 90’s. They must have improving late nineties to early noughties….

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    10 February, 2014 at 21:53
  57. avatar
    #30 Grasshopper

    @Rhino: Mate, Westville were nowhere in swimming in the 90’s, Peter Chilcott being the best of the bunch. Not sure what many many years means, a decade maybe. DHS have been the standard for swimming in KZN for 100 years. Anyway, well done in the swimming. You now have the facilities to keep on attracting the best. It’s going to be very hard to maintain that as other schools have finally noticed that a sport like swimming can bring success, more so than rugby. Kudos to TH for this..

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    10 February, 2014 at 21:44
  58. avatar
    #29 Westers

    @Grasshopper: You bring the Olympics up far more often than I do. When it comes to Westville swimming success you harp on way more than me. Keep it up. You are doing a great PRO job for us.

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    10 February, 2014 at 20:56
  59. avatar
    #28 Rhino

    @ Grasshopper

    Yeah but surely all they saying is the truth in that… it is impressive.. BUT BUT to say that we got instant success is UTTER bollocks.. the whole structure and development has been in place for many many years and you know it and the fact that we do/have attract the best swimmers surely is kudos to Westville in the first place. Its like top rugger players choose GC etc.
    Nothing Wrong with naming the new and refurbished pools after 2 TOP swimmers in SA aka Chad Le Clos and Chad Ho.. what is wrong with it?

    It just seemingly grates you only.. others don’t seem to have an issue. Its all part of being proud and showing respect back to them for their achievements.

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    10 February, 2014 at 19:24
  60. avatar
    #27 Grasshopper

    @Rhino: yep, Westers and a number of my Westville mates keep harping on about 4 swimmers at the Olympics, smashed all records and now naming the pool after Le Clos. Good on Westville for thinking out the box, bringing in the national coach and the whole national youth team…very clever, instant success without much effort, just about 10 bursaries. Clifton have done the same in waterpolo, very clever.

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    10 February, 2014 at 18:35
  61. avatar
    #26 Rhino

    @ Grasshopper

    Do we ? Or are you doing your usual of generalising and making unfound statements about Westville?

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    10 February, 2014 at 18:05
  62. avatar
    #25 Grasshopper

    @BOG: Absolutely no chance in surfing or bodyboarding, unless they build a valley of waves in Bloem, even then it’s not the same as the real thing. Grey are not exactly new to swimming, Ryk Neethling comes to mind. Westville seem to think they are the best of all time, but swimming did also exist prior to 2000 when DHS and Northwood were the perrenial KZN champs.

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    10 February, 2014 at 17:59
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    #24 BOG

    @Grasshopper: If I remember correctly, GCB came second last year as well. It was either last weekend or the one before that, that GCB won the gala at Affies. So their performance was no fluke. I think that they should take things to the next level and offer surfing at school. I think they would be capable of klapping a few Durban schools. Only problem is with the girls running after them, it could cause some friction

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    10 February, 2014 at 17:16
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    #23 EG Ouer

    @Beet: Sorry, I was talking about the Young Guns

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    10 February, 2014 at 15:24
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    #22 Gungets Tuft

    @star: Best College could do at Midmar was 8th (Townshend) and 16th (Binedell).

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    10 February, 2014 at 15:11
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    #21 Gungets Tuft

    @All Black: Kyle Nipper also represented the Dolphin’s this season, didn’t crack the nod for the final.

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    10 February, 2014 at 15:02
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    #20 Grasshopper

    @BOG: What do you mean? We know KES is kak at swimming. Yes, Grey are better than Glenwood at swimming this year, but Glenwood are 2nd in KZN and quickly catching Westville, it depends on the format of the gala and if the top swimmers are available. At the Alan Burt Top 10 gala we came 3rd;
    WBHS – 291
    Pretoria Boys’ – 234
    Glenwood – 205
    Clifton – 193
    Kearsney – 182
    St Stithian’s – 153
    St David’s – 149
    KES – 105
    DHS – 89
    Parktown – 43

    On rugby, yes Grey will pump us again this year, probably by 40 as it’s in Durban…

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    10 February, 2014 at 14:56
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    #19 Roger

    @BOG: KES are very much B league when it comes to swimming – why, I’m not sure – the waterpolo is top class though. Gauteng swimming is dominated by St Davids, St Stithians and PBHS.

    We cant be the best at everything :twisted:

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    10 February, 2014 at 14:48
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    #18 BOG

    @star: I notice that Grasshopper is a bit evasive, or is it my imagination? Surely, he must have seen the results? Dont they swim at KES? I mean in a pool- not the Jukskei? And I certanly hope that they take up your offer at Kearsney

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    10 February, 2014 at 13:56
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    #17 Grasshopper

    @star: Daryn Smit & Keshav Marahaj is Northwood. Also, Glenwood have had 3 starters most of the season with Chetty, Subrayen and Shezi. Savage is another College boy but not sure if he played, Imraan Khan & Jonathan Vandiar are DHS Old boys, again not sure if they played this season. Certainly agree the home grown approach in the way forward, we just need to get Hashim back…

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    10 February, 2014 at 13:44
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    #16 Grasshopper

    @star: Give Westville another 3 years at the top, then the picture will change….mark my words…

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    10 February, 2014 at 13:39
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    #15 star

    @ Bog- Points and races won
    1) Westville 295 15
    2) Grey C 270 5
    3)St Davids 250 3
    4) Clifton 215 1
    5) Glenwood 209 4
    6) Kearsney 149 0
    7) Hilton 135 0
    8)St Benedicts 132 0
    9)M College 114 0
    10)Westville B 108 0
    11)DHS 93 0
    12)Northwood 59 0
    A bit of depth there with the Westville B team beating both DHS and Northwood. Grey definitely came to play and pushed the champs all the way. They were definitely the best mannered though. :lol:
    You can get your revenge at the Kearsney festival. :mrgreen:

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    10 February, 2014 at 12:12
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    #14 Roger

    @Woltrui: the greatest ever SA cricket captain is about to lead the Proteas out for the 102nd time against the Shackledraggers on Wednesday with his two very able Affies troopers in the ranks :twisted:

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    10 February, 2014 at 11:52
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    #13 Roger

    @star: not forgetting Vaughan Van Jaarsveld – the schoolboy prodigy who made a triple century vs Jeppe off 160 balls and was tipped by all and sundry to be the next Graeme Pollock – man, he lost his way and I don’t think he will add to his 3 ODI and 3 T20 caps.

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    10 February, 2014 at 11:43
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    #12 BOG

    @star: Im rather sensitive about deviating from the topic, but what were the full swimming results? I did not expect them to beat Wesville, but coming second and surely being the best mannered group, is not bad for boytjies from the desert, where water is a scarce commodity. At least I can rub Grasshoppers nose in it and I do hope that the revenge on the rugby pitch will be very sweet.To have two players in a foreign team of the last outpost, is also not too shabby.

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    10 February, 2014 at 11:41
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    #11 star

    @ Woltrui- You are right about the strong KZN foundation. In the starting line up there are 3 WOBs, 2 GOBs, 1 College( Miller) 1 Kearsney( Abbott) and I think Maharaj is DHS. Therefore 8 out of the eleven. The coach is DHS and the batting coach House. What is the old saying about playing for a brother rather than a stranger. It definitely seems to show on the field. All that was needed was an old silverback to bring it all together. Morne was the ” Grey” back that gave composure. :mrgreen: You see Bog you guys can be useful at times. :lol:
    @Grassy- was Schoeman the top GW rep. I think the top schoolboy must have been J, Dannhauser who came 8th overall.

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    10 February, 2014 at 11:21
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    #10 Grasshopper

    @Woltrui: Delport, Frylinck and Zondo are WOB’s

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    10 February, 2014 at 10:40
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    #9 All Black

    David Miller – College. Enough said.

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    10 February, 2014 at 10:38
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    #8 Woltrui

    @star: Hi Star. Who were the Westville boytjies in the Ram slam final? That Dolphins team seams to have a very strong KZN foundation. Well done. It was a nice game to watch-even though the Titans weren’t playing :(

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    10 February, 2014 at 10:28
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    #7 Grasshopper

    Whoops, also Mthokozisi Shezi for the Dolphins :-)

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    10 February, 2014 at 10:20
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    #6 Grasshopper

    @star: Luke Erwee won the Under13 midmar, Reuben Schoeman the Under15 and Cody Chetty and Pren Subrayen were in the Dolphins squad :wink:

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    10 February, 2014 at 10:16
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    #5 star

    Sorry we also won the Westville Invitational gala beating Grey College.(there is always next year ou Bog) That must be about 65 galas on the trot now.

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    10 February, 2014 at 10:12
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    #4 star

    @ Woltrui- You have every right to be a bit windgat. Westville also did not have a bad weekend. Chad Ho won the Midmar mile for a 5th consecutive time and in that Ram Slam final there were 3 Westville boys on the WINNING team :mrgreen: I will be surprized if there was another school that was better represented. :lol:

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    10 February, 2014 at 10:08
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    #3 Woltrui

    If I might be a little “windgat” after the weekend about the Affies old boys:
    -George Coetzee winning his first European tournament with 3 shots in Jburg.
    -Neil Wagner taking 8/126 for NZ against India.
    -SA Engelbrecht scoring a 56 for the Cobras in the Ram Slam final. 8-O

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    10 February, 2014 at 09:41
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    #2 beet

    @EG Ouer: You must be referring to the Young Guns coz the Tuks vs UJ game was on TV last week and it definitely ended 18-18

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    10 February, 2014 at 07:35
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    #1 EG Ouer

    @ The score between UJ and Tuks was 18-4 to UJ

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    10 February, 2014 at 06:54