BHP Top 50 – week ending 03 August 2013

So very tight at the top. All the interest has been on the top 2 who are only separated by 5 100ths of a point. Further down, the Northvaal battle via the BeeldTrofee is winding down with Jansies and Nellies looking set to contest for 5th spot in SA this year. In form Klofies not done yet in either and they could still claim a top 10 finish in 2013.

Rank Last Week Team Avg Pts / Game
1 1 AHS (Affies) 4.42
2 2 Paarl Gim 4.37
3 3 Outeniqua 4.02
4 4 Grey College 3.74
5 8 EG Jansen 3.25
6 5 Kearsney 3.14
7 9 Nelspruit 3.09
8 6 HJS Paarl 2.91
9 10 Westville BHS 2.87
10 7 Garsfontein 2.82
11 11 Monument 2.72
12 15 Waterkloof 2.70
13 12 Noord-Kaap 2.70
14 18 Oakdale 2.60
15 17 Wynberg BHS 2.53
16 16 Grey PE 2.53
17 19 HTS Drostdy 2.46
18 14 Pretoria Boys High 2.45
19 22 Glenwood 2.43
20 13 HTS Middelburg 2.40
21 23 Marlow 2.34
22 24 Voortrekker (Bethlehem) 2.26
23 21 Paul Roos 2.26
24 20 Queens College 2.26
25 27 Selborne 2.23
26 26 St Andrews 2.13
27 25 Rondebosch 2.10
28 33 Menlopark 2.09
29 34 SACS 2.06
30 29 Jeppe 2.01
31 30 Hugenote (Well) 1.99
32 32 Centurion 1.96
33 37 Boland Landbou 1.89
34 28 Die Brandwag 1.89
35 41 Nico Malan 1.87
36 39 Durbanville 1.86
37 31 Bellville 1.85
38 35 Maritzburg College 1.81
39 42 Jim Fouche 1.80
40 43 Kempton Park 1.78
41 38 Tygerberg 1.77
42 40 Bishops 1.73
43 49 Transvalia 1.72
44 44 Stellenberg 1.70
45 36 AHS Kroonstad (Rooiskool) 1.69
46 Strand 1.66
47 45 Brackenfell 1.66
48 47 Hilton 1.61
49 HTS Louis Botha 1.59
50 50 Eldoraigne 1.55

76 Comments

  1. avatar
    #76 TJ

    Now I’ve seen it all. A Glenwood blogger having a go at another school for dishing out bursaries, what is this world coming to!!

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    13 August, 2013 at 08:32
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    #75 Grasshopper

    @HORSEFLY NO.1: surely Westville can’t keep on giving out 70 bursaries a year to grade 8’s, even with that many they are not the best in the age group. Their artificial swimming strength with be diluted within 4 years too. The swimmers are sure to get spread amongst the schools. Monopolies always fall eventually….

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    12 August, 2013 at 22:20
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    #74 HORSEFLY NO.1

    @WBHS Griffon:
    Go play In the traffic somewhere.

    Interesting how you didn’t answer both Grassy and I’s questions.
    Maybe a hole in the knight and shining armour of WBHS?

    DHS didn’t have any good teams in those 5 years that you speak of ….
    The last two U14 sides have beaten WBHS and so will next years boys I am sure,that’ll show come opens in a few years unless WBHS pull an unlikely Houdini act every year…

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    12 August, 2013 at 22:14
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    #73 Grasshopper

    @WBHS Griffon: over 160 international sportsman is only 50 less than College and KES, the top 2. Not too bad, so again you talking without knowing the facts. DHS under 14a and under15a are top sides, who I believe beat their Westville counterparts. DHS Old Boys are gathering, throwing money into a pot and with 2 great new leaders they will be back. The DHS old boys with clout will not let the school slip any further. They are currently the best in KZN in athletics, best basketball school in the country and improving every year in each sport. They at least have history and tradition, something Westville don’t have yet…..Westville as an area is declining too, most younger couples looking to the north coast instead….

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    12 August, 2013 at 22:09
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    #72 WBHS Griffon

    @Grasshopper: People have been saying that for the last 5 years, including yourself, that DHS will be back, DHS will be back but nothing ever materializes.

    It’s a real pity, a great school with great traditions whom i think have produced the most SA Schools and Springboks outside of College. It’s funny how roles have been reversed as Glenwood were always DHS’s “red headed step child” wannabees.

    For a school like Glewnood with such a long history, the number of SA Schools, Provincial and Springbok sportsmen is indeed very disappointing.

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    12 August, 2013 at 21:49
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    #71 Grasshopper

    @HORSEFLY NO.1: agreed, will take another 2 years before you see the good junior groups in the opens. I am confident DHS will be very competitive at A and first team level from 2015 onwards, very much like the private schools but the depth will take longer and if you get any serious injuries it will affect the teams greatly. DHS will be back which will make the derbies even more exciting, great stuff!

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    12 August, 2013 at 21:22
  7. avatar
    #70 HORSEFLY NO.1

    @McCulleys Workshop:
    To be honest its still early days. Thiss season was always going to be a very tough one with a kak matric group which only had about 25 boys playing. Most of the 1st side was grade 11 and they did show some moments that give one hope for next year. I think the effects of the new ccoach and head will only start showing now during pre-season.

    The previous head was a bit slack when it came to conditioning players during pre-season etc.

    On the upside, it can’t get any worse than this season so we can only look to better things from a dhs team that will have a decent matric group.

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    12 August, 2013 at 21:14
  8. avatar
    #69 McCulleys Workshop

    @Jordaan: what’s wrong with the last 120 years?

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    12 August, 2013 at 21:08
  9. avatar
    #68 Grasshopper

    @Gungets Tuft: FYI, the Glenwood 1st team hockey won 5-1.

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    12 August, 2013 at 21:01
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    #67 Grasshopper

    @McCulleys Workshop: hahaha! Nice to see John-Roy Jenkinson playing for the Cheetahs, yet another good Glenwood OB playing provincial rugby….Tom has been erased from Glenwood’s history as Westville did miraculously with a few players in their own auditors ‘audit’ and sudden ankle injuries etc….

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    12 August, 2013 at 20:54
  11. avatar
    #66 Jordaan

    @star: Ja, al julle Westville ouen’s is ‘n klomp moffies. En hierdie McCulley’s Workshop, julle praat kak.

    In 5 jare sal Glenwood die beste skool in KZN wees. Gaan Groen!

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    12 August, 2013 at 20:52
  12. avatar
    #65 McCulleys Workshop

    @HORSEFLY NO.1: what’s the consensus on the new coach and head?

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    12 August, 2013 at 20:47
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    #64 HORSEFLY NO.1

    @Ploegskaar:
    Yes they had a very good record, albeit only playing 12 games due to a very unfortunate death. They had one loss vs Glenwood losing 22-23 and missing about 6 kicks at goal in the process.
    I do believe our 2014 rugby intake will also be good as Playa mentioned that 8 Dale Junior boys are making their way to DHS.

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    12 August, 2013 at 20:40
  14. avatar
    #63 McCulleys Workshop

    @Westers: Wa Ha Ha Siybonga Tom

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    12 August, 2013 at 20:32
  15. avatar
    #62 star

    @ Gungets- I only have the top 3 team places-Westville ,Kearsney and then Hilton. All ten of KZN’s top schools were represented over 36 holes in teams of 8 players. The top player was James Kennedy. His Dad was OC in 1981.( farming stock from Zululand-very good man)

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    12 August, 2013 at 20:31
  16. avatar
    #61 Ploegskaar

    @HORSEFLY NO.1: BTW, saw some tweets on the results of one of your junior teams last week, think u14’s. Good record, only one loss if I remember correctly. With your 2014 intake that may just bode well for the future, I will be keeping an eye on their progress over the coming years.

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    12 August, 2013 at 20:25
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    #60 HORSEFLY NO.1

    @Ploegskaar:
    Well Grassy is the one that called us all out. We were very comfortable with sitting back and watching you boys comment away….but Grassy mentioned it getting a bit boring so I hope he’s got his entertainment now :mrgreen:

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    12 August, 2013 at 20:01
  18. avatar
    #59 Ploegskaar

    And so, on this 12th day of August in the year of The Lord 2013, all the members of the Village People emerge to unite, of all places, on a SBR blog. To discuss dubious sports and overaged boys, no matter. KXXXN rugby and their bloggers, in a nuts-shell.

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    12 August, 2013 at 18:35
  19. avatar
    #58 Grasshopper

    @McCulleys Workshop: I don’t know either, all these abbreviated names causes guess work, just say his name…

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    12 August, 2013 at 18:02
  20. avatar
    #57 Westers

    @McCulleys Workshop: The guy who played rugby for Glenwood (and KZN CW and SA Schools) that they used to go on and on about. I think he is about the same age as Arthur. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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    12 August, 2013 at 17:55
  21. avatar
    #56 McCulleys Workshop

    @Westers: who is ST

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    12 August, 2013 at 17:42
  22. avatar
    #55 Westers

    @Grasshopper: Westville okes might not be bleating about Arthur any longer – but neither are you Glenwood okes bleating about ST any longer.

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    12 August, 2013 at 17:40
  23. avatar
    #54 Gungets Tuft

    @star: You would have to help me out with the results. I went to the Westville HS site and they are true to form, mentioned only the name of the Westville oke that came 3rd overall. Do you have the list of all the individual and team places. All I know is that a College Boy (Malcolm Mitchell) is the KZN “A captain (perhaps the Inland team??), and that Hilton B won the KZN School league and got to represent KZN in the Retief Goosen National Schools Golf Challenge at Humewood. The internet and schools golf is a complete pox.

    Good to see Greg McKay (Kearsney) doing nicely. He is a great kid, ex-DPHS and will go far. His attitude is just brilliant.

    I believe there are 18 College Old Boys with their boys at Kearsney. Good luck to them, can’t criticise their choice.

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    12 August, 2013 at 17:35
  24. avatar
    #53 Grasshopper

    @McCulleys Workshop: Moffshouse was the MHS one…

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    12 August, 2013 at 17:34
  25. avatar
    #52 McCulleys Workshop

    @McCulleys Workshop: I meant block and tackle

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    12 August, 2013 at 17:32
  26. avatar
    #51 McCulleys Workshop

    @Grasshopper: I’m sure this is the reason you are slipping, and have lost your winners crown, you have become too focussed on cross dressing and gender bender stuff, stick to the ruck and maul china.

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    12 August, 2013 at 17:30
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    #50 Grasshopper

    @McCulleys Workshop: I was meaning from a Priscilla Queens of the Desert and YMCA angle, you know all the schools have a nickname for the others, DHS (Durban Homosexuals Society), Gaywood, Wetsville or Queersville, Queersney etc…

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    12 August, 2013 at 17:23
  28. avatar
    #49 McCulleys Workshop

    @Grasshopper: Hopper, you certainly don’t want to end at the bottom either, you guys have such a proud history and desire to be on top I would stick to that option.

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    12 August, 2013 at 17:06
  29. avatar
    #48 Grasshopper

    @star: I certainly don’t want to end ‘on top’ I’ll leave that to you WOB’s ;-). No need to waste my time with Griffon, he does not get what this site is all about, jesting, banter and stirring kak…..fun stuff in a good old way…

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    12 August, 2013 at 16:45
  30. avatar
    #47 McCulleys Workshop

    Imagine being selected for DJFW – DJ FRESH WEEK, might have got colours if we were progressive enough.

    ReplyReply
    12 August, 2013 at 16:26
  31. avatar
    #46 star

    @ Grassy- I think you and WBHS Griffon should get a room and see who ends up on top :mrgreen: I look forward to Jordy winning the world tour but if money is your bench mark then we might as well turn our attention to golf which makes all the other sports look silly.( By the way Westville won the KZN golf title by a whopping 21 shots) The guy that actually won the tournament is the son of a mate of mine who is at Kearsney. I think he broke T. Clarks amateur record at DCC. And he is the son of a College OB. Gungets are you taking note :lol:
    @ McCulleys- you had to be pale, male and from the Old families. Convenience was also an issue( No Umchlanga Ridge and some serious deals would have been made in “walking distance”). Now pale and male is a swear word, new money has made the old ones a nostalgic memory and when was the last time you were in the center of town. The script was written for the Club. Other scenarios are not so clear cut but no less emotive. Gungets talks about the decline of PMB and the traditional supporting farming communities for College. Sometimes a temporary decline can steady the resolve and allow the school to draw on new opportunities.

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    12 August, 2013 at 16:23
  32. avatar
    #45 McCulleys Workshop

    @Grasshopper: @HORSEFLY NO.1: Gentlemen, this is a rugby blog, lets stick to rugby, politics, IEB pass rates, past coaches, top rugger fields, religion and statistics, but not all the sports imaginable, I was quite a good DJ at school.

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    12 August, 2013 at 16:22
  33. avatar
    #44 Grasshopper

    @HORSEFLY NO.1: good repost Horsie, add athletics to that. When last did Westville beat DHS or Glenwood for that matter in athletics, probably never. College too would beat Westville, easily.

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    12 August, 2013 at 16:14
  34. avatar
    #43 HORSEFLY NO.1

    According to WBHS supporters logic, DHS should also claim to have everything to do with the successes of Mike Bechet and Skonk Nicholson whom are both old boys of School. Should we also claim Craig Joubert for the years he lived in the DHS BE whilst his father taught at dhs?

    If no then I’m confused

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    12 August, 2013 at 16:10
  35. avatar
    #42 Gungets Tuft

    @star: Just one point – I never compared Chad Le Clos and Jordy. I took issue only that WBHS seems to think that all achievers from Westville are because of Westville, all others are because of natural talent, and would have done well anyway.

    I believe that schools are important because of the kind of mentoring you get. Skonk set a lot of rugby players on the way, Mike Bechet has arguably been as (even more??) successful – he had 3 Olympians last year, I think 4 the 2008 Olympics, with 1 in 2004. I think every one of them will credit Bechet with their success.

    More important though, is that many boys will identify past teachers as mentors, not necessarily for their sports success, but for general life lessons. I have seen Toppy Hartoff (sp) credited like that, Skonk was definitely like that. I wonder if current school life lends itself to that any more?

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    12 August, 2013 at 15:55
  36. avatar
    #41 HORSEFLY NO.1

    @WBHS Griffon
    Yuss but you’re full of kak. What do you mean Chad was never going to go to DHS? When he was at Penzance DHS was the #1 swimming school in the country and had been so for the best past of the previous 25 years before that.
    The man himself said that he initially was going to be a DHS boy, changing his mind after he saw the gees from WBHS…something totally missing from those snobs right now.

    Plus, your reference to Cricket,Soccer and Basketball I take with a pinch of salt.
    Tell me, whens the last time the WBHS 1st polo side beat DHS?

    Go down the same road as DHS? Bwahaha at leats we can admit to our shortcomings and try improve.
    The almighty WBHS is never wrong…please man

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    12 August, 2013 at 15:51
  37. avatar
    #40 McCulleys Workshop

    @star: That’s my point, how many other members do you know? Not every decline is reversible. I’ve been hearing about the fantastic grade 8 intake for the last 6/7 years that are going to reverse the fortune of certain schools, when this crop gets to first team it’ll be our 100th or 150th anniversary – yawn.

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    12 August, 2013 at 15:29
  38. avatar
    #39 Grasshopper

    @WBHS Griffon: I think the pot is calling the kettle black there. Every post of yours is about how crap Glenwood is and how wonderful Westville is. I was actually at Westville last week, so I am close to coal face so to speak. Kids, hmmm you only seem to blog when mommy and daddy allow you to use the iPad, late at night or at very random times. I bet you finish school recently or in the last 10 years….lighty really…

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    12 August, 2013 at 14:52
  39. avatar
    #38 Gungets Tuft

    @WBHS Griffon: Boyo – if you want to fight, then state the facts. I am not going to research your claims, I suggest you do it, or perhaps you will carry on riding on Star and Westers backs. They will tire of that as well.

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    12 August, 2013 at 14:45
  40. avatar
    #37 WBHS Griffon

    @Grasshopper: Love winding you kids up, you take the bait every time, just cannot resist :mrgreen:

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    12 August, 2013 at 14:17
  41. avatar
    #36 WBHS Griffon

    @Grasshopper: Mud Island? You were the one on Mud Island blogging for years on the KZN schools system whilst relying on what you read on the web and what your Dad told you. Where you now, Cape Town? So lets set the record straight, you have no clue what is really going on.

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    12 August, 2013 at 14:14
  42. avatar
    #35 WBHS Griffon

    @Gungets Tuft: You like that? I think if you do a little more research you’ll find it a massively successful school swimming program. Dream on whilst you start to slip behind too!

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    12 August, 2013 at 14:11
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    #34 Grasshopper 12 August, 2013 at 14:06
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    #33 Grasshopper

    @star: Let’s just say when Jordy win the World Tour he will earn quite a bit more than any swimmer from SA. Look at poor Roeland Schoeman needing to get sponsorship to get to the next Olympics. You disregard surfing, you obviously don’t really know much about it. I can tell you now the Chalupsky’s would have done well anywhere, but probably even better being closer to the beach at DHS, Northlands, Beachwood or Glenwood. I always used to feel sorry for the Westville surfers waiting on Old main road waiting for an hourly bus to Warwick triangle/Workshop and then walking to the beach….next thing Westville okes are going to say Kevin Curran was lucky to make the Wimbledon semi’s…..Mickey Arthur got shown up recently, won’t see the Westville okes bleating about him anymore…

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    12 August, 2013 at 14:01
  45. avatar
    #32 star

    @ McCulley’s- in another lifetime :lol:
    @Gungets- your leading question was ” other than Le Clos and Ho, which other graduates of ” your elite swimming program…” are there? I have given you 4 more recent international quality swimmers. I am again not necessarily saying that the Chalupski’s and Paul van A would not amount to anything if they had not gone to Westville. I am saying we are product of many things and the school environment is part of that and must be respected. If that was not the case then there would be no need for blogs like this. BOG I am sure would agree :lol: I will digress a bit on Oscar though. He not only can sell ice to the Eskimos but would have brought it from them in the first place and repackaged at an enormous profit. :lol:
    You also state that ” Jordy Smith’s exploits compare quite well to ….. Le Clos”. Well let us see an Olympian and World Champion against a surfer who is ranked at the top of his game. Maybe ou Bog can tell us who the top ranked surfer in the world is. Taking nothing away from Jordy but not even on the same page. The queues waiting for Chad’s and Bert’s autograph at Barcelona recently are the tip of the iceberg.
    Also how can a D & D gala with thousands of people and relays( teamwork) compare to an interschools surfing contest with a few local hoodies on the beach.( With the greatest of respect again not on the same page. )
    With regard to the important rugby side of matters , we all look forward to service as normal( hopefully not to the same extent as that of the 80’s :wink: Been there and got the badge.)

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    12 August, 2013 at 13:44
  46. avatar
    #31 Gungets Tuft

    @star: Bru, I am not denying that the school has an effect, my sole point was that Jordy Smith for Glenwood is not different to your lifesavers (not ignoring the swimmers, but they were not the subject of discussion). I quote WBHS Griffon ..

    ” You’re losing sight of the blog here by trying to bring Jordy Smith, who pretty much could have gone to any high school in Durban and would still have been a world class surfer.”

    Why would that have been different for the Chalupski’s and Paul van A. Are you saying that they would have amounted to nothing if they had not gone to Westville?

    ” but inner belief is irresistible(ask Oscar)” .. bwahahhaa .. you don’t have to ask him, he will tell you, on about any day after (another) victory, as he holds court at Billy’s. Make no mistake, I admire the oke, he is a legend, but he is definitely not shy 8)

    I think College have that belief any time they play. To play at College, I think, used to put the terror into the opposition. That much might have been watered down a little over the past few years but a distilling process is under way. A Goldstones victory is still highly prized, perhaps a little more available for the last 3 or 4 years, but normal service will be restored shortly.

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    12 August, 2013 at 12:52
  47. avatar
    #30 McCulleys Workshop

    @star: Star, are you a member of the Durban Club?

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    12 August, 2013 at 11:41
  48. avatar
    #29 star

    @ Gungets- Maybe I should call you pedantic. :mrgreen: You asked a question and I answered it. You conveniently forget about the 3 swimmers mentioned then try to deflect Pauls achievements to whether life saving is a school sport. What has that to do with the fact that he was a key swimmer for Westville and a graduate of Westville’s swimming program and winning culture. The fact that he might choose a different option after school really does not detract from that . With regard to the Chalupski’s even though Oscar was a year ahead of me and Herman the year below and so I would have had personal interaction, I will not speculate and therefore will not take any bets.
    With regard to Goldstones let me give my personal experience. I was a Westville boy that did a postmatric at Hilton. I had only played College once at U13 level and we had won comfortably. I therefore did not understand what all the fuss was about. In 1982 we went into the game after the CW trials with arguably as good if not better team( or so the papers thought). I remember looking at my teammates eyes before the game and thinking we are not going to win this thing. We got done proper. At the Westville/MC game I ran into my opposite center( old Slappy F). With all due respect he is not an intimidating person but on that day he scored 3 tries and was like 10 feet tall. He reminded me of that fact and we had a laugh( maybe him more than me :lol: ). I am not saying that Goldstones victories had nothing to do with Skonk or the boys themselves but inner belief is irresistible(ask Oscar). Yes the Westville swimmers have very significant other influences( did not Chad mouth his love for his mother) but never deny the whole package especially where parochial interests are concerned. MC has lost 3 of the last 5 reunion days on Goldstones. Maybe some of that belief has been lost or maybe the other schools have found theirs. That is part of the challenge facing College which I am sure they will sort out with aplomb .

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    12 August, 2013 at 11:30
  49. avatar
    #28 Gungets Tuft

    @star: Westville do lifesaving as a school sport??

    Are we going to see Paul van A in a swimming pool for South Africa …. or is he going to do just lifesaving, just as Oscar and Hermann do?

    I get the winning culture, but to say that Jordy Smith did not benefit, but the Westville lifesavers do is disengenious. I am even willing to bet that the Chalupski’s (definitely Oscar) bunked as much as they attended classes. Oscar is a Type-A on steroids, he needs nothing other than his own drive.

    And the wins on Goldstones, shoo, I reckon the boys had to do a little more than pitch up, Skonk might have had to coach them just a little …

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    12 August, 2013 at 10:34
  50. avatar
    #27 star

    @ Gungets- There was recently a international swim competition in Aus where 3 Westville swimmers other than the Chad’s took part. ( Justus,Crouse and Shankland). We have already had a conversation where another Westville swimmer Paul van A became only the 3rd man in history to win the Senior Ironman competition while being the junior champion. That means Westville 2 ,rest of the World 1. In fact I reckon Westville could put a medley team together that could win a Commonwealth medal. Winning 59 galas on the trot and holding 90 % of the all time records breeds something called winning culture. Surely as a College boy you should understand that as most of your wins on Goldstones were a direct result of that. I know about that personally. :roll: It gives you that decisive edge.( Just ask Phelps). I almost forgot our all time great Olympic coach( and swimmer) who GW are using to build their swimming program. If that does not say it all !! :mrgreen:

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    12 August, 2013 at 10:17
  51. avatar
    #26 Gungets Tuft

    @WBHS Griffon: Other than Le Clos and Ho, which other graduates of your “elite Westville swimming program, school facilities and location of the school” are there?

    Personally, I think that Jordy Smith’s exploits compare quite well to Chalupski, Ho, Le Clos. All highly individual sports where the training is mostly away from the school. It’s not to say that the guys don’t get their dedication to their craft, determination, “out of pool/ocean mentorship” from the school, but for the rest, they could practice that anywhere. Chalupski and Ho got theirs from surf-lifesaving, training on the weekends with Durban Surf, and both of them highly individualistic. I reckon both Chalupski’s might even say that school got in the way of their ambitions, rather than the other way around :roll:

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    12 August, 2013 at 09:26
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    #25 Grasshopper

    @WBHS Griffon: wow, once again you show your true ‘elitist’ colours. 10 years ahead of Glenwood, mate you have obviously been on mud island too long. Have you actually been to the schools, Glenwood is constantly praised for its great facilities and quality of grounds, hence Super 15 teams training there. Westville have a better pool, that would be obvious yours has just been completed. Glenwood have big plans here too. Anyway, the one thing you can’t buy is respect, tradition and history. Something Westville are 45 years behind Glenwood and even more behind from the other great KZN schools. Westville are desperate to come across as a private school and have the history. Nothing beats walking down old corridors with pictures of boys gone by…

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    12 August, 2013 at 05:39
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    #24 WBHS Griffon

    @Grasshopper:It’s ridiculous to compare Jordy Smith and his surfing career / time at the beach and the absolutely zero influence that Glenwood High School had on his surfing career to that of Chad Le Clos’s swimming career. We all know that with previous achievements by the likes of Chad Ho and other world class swimmers in recent years and the influence of ex-old boy and Olympic swimming coach Graham Hill, there was no ways Le Clos was ever going to go to DHS unless of course his prime sporting interest was soccer, basketball or cricket and his religious interest was in Islam.

    You’re losing sight of the blog here by trying to bring Jordy Smith, who pretty much could have gone to any high school in Durban and would still have been a world class surfer. This is not about trying to compare world class athletes the schools have produced. Bottom line is the elite Westville swimming program, school facilities and location of the school are 10 years ahead of Glenwood.

    Also, it’s a well known fact that you guys rely too heavily on 1st XV rugby results to uphold your school name, the reality is that the divide will increase over the next 5 – 10 years as your school location continues to deteriorate around you and your jealousy grows stronger.

    I know you guys so desperately want to be seen as the top public school in KZN and the most improved school over the last 10 – 15 years, but, unfortunately Westville has eclipsed you – indeed it must be a hard pill to swallow, hence the current state of animosity between the two schools.

    I wish you the best of luck as you’ll have uphill battle on your hands over the next 5 – 10 years to continue to attract top athletes. Given your close geographical proximity, I can only hope you don’t follow the same fate as DHS. :(

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    12 August, 2013 at 02:37
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    #23 Grasshopper

    @Westers: just saying you don’t see Glenwood bleating on about Jordy or if little victory in sport. KES are the kings of self PR….Westville a very close 2nd…

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    11 August, 2013 at 22:50
  55. avatar
    #22 Grasshopper

    @Westers: we got Westers out of his slumber, gosh these Westville guys take the bait. Doesn’t worry me at all, be proud of your old boys…Le Clos, Chalupsky, Arthur, Hill etc, great stuff. Just don’t idolize them, that is all I’m saying. Le Clos is a good person and great ambassador. I met him and his dad in the Slug in Wimbledon after the Olympics with my WOB London mates. By my age what school you went to does not affect the friends u choose, I have mates who went to DHS, George Campbell, Westville, Grosvenor, Toti etc. This is all just banter and a wind up in the end, a bit of fun taking the piss. If we really took this seriously, it would be very sad. Westville, great school! All schools are different, it’s up to you to decide where your kids go….

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    11 August, 2013 at 22:48
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    #21 Westers

    @Grasshopper: You say no worries but you keep bringing Le Clos up. It obviously does worry you – a lot.

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    11 August, 2013 at 21:21
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    #20 Grasshopper

    @Djou: yes that is fine, no worries about that. Westville will milk it for the next 50 years, great investment by them…

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    11 August, 2013 at 20:00
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    #19 Djou

    @Grasshopper: It doesn’t matter whether Westville had something to do with Le Clos’ success or not. Point is he was in Westville and that is what will be known forever and what will be written on his resume and what will be mentioned whenever he swims all over the world.

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    11 August, 2013 at 19:23
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    #18 BOG

    @McCulleys Workshop: And the domestic science dept?

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    11 August, 2013 at 18:58
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    #17 McCulleys Workshop

    @WBHS Griffon: Which u16’s are you guys buying in the transfer window?

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    11 August, 2013 at 18:29
  61. avatar
    #16 McCulleys Workshop

    @WBHS Griffon: Well done, you also have a good drama department.

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    11 August, 2013 at 18:13
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    #15 Grasshopper

    Le Clos is a great athlete and sportsman, but his success had nothing to do with Westville it was his own self belief and hard training that did it. Working with Graham Hill was also a great decision. Glad Graham Hill will be taking over Glenwood swimming….

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    11 August, 2013 at 16:58
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    #14 Grasshopper

    @WBHS Griffon: love that quote by Trevor or one of the old headmasters, blowing wind up their own arses is what Westville is about. Those with real class don’t need to do that. Le Clos this Le Clos that. Come on the guy was heading to DHS before the SA coach convinced him to go to Westville. You don’t see Glenwood banging on about Jordy Smith. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is not a Le Clos statue at the school yet and they call the swimming pool the Le Clos pool….

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    11 August, 2013 at 16:56
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    #13 WBHS Griffon

    We can debate these rankings for the next 10 years, so I think fair comment is to take the Westville bashers accusations with a pinch of salt – indeed jealousy is at terrible thing. Definitely one of the most successful years in recent times for Westville with a top 10 national ranking and putting 50 points on College at Goldstones being the crowning achievement. It’s such a pity that the weather was the downfall of the Westville vs Kearsney game, on Bowdens, which would have put to rest any questions around the top rugby school in KZN this year.

    These rankings are indeed a great tribute to a “Damn fine institution” who are now setting the standards across most sports in KZN schools.

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    11 August, 2013 at 15:31
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    #12 Queenian

    @rugbyfan: Looks fair

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    9 August, 2013 at 11:28
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    #11 rugbyfan

    Well I think at present the Eastern Cape looks something like this.

    1. Grey PE
    2. Marlow
    3. Queens
    4. Selborne
    5. St Andrews
    6. Brandwag
    7. Nico Malan
    8. Framesby
    9. Graeme
    10. Dale

    I am sure Grey PE will finish top for this year unless they come unstuck against Selborne but I doubt it. Second place should go to Marlow pity they pulled out of there game against Queens I doubt they would have beaten the Kudu at the Rec.

    Queens should land up top on the Border unless Dale beat them.

    Other teams I have been impressed with are Union High really done well this year also Muir have done well in the second half of there season and with 12 Grade 11 boys should be a force in the Eastern Cape next year.

    Eastern Cape Juinor Teams

    Under 14

    1. Grey PE
    2. Queens
    3. Selborne

    Under 15

    1. Selborne
    2. Grey PE
    3. Kingswood

    Under 16

    1. Danial Pienaar
    2. Grey PE
    3. Selborne

    Under 13

    1. Dale
    2. Handhaaf
    3. Grey PE

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    9 August, 2013 at 09:41
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    #10 Queenian

    Do teams get points for losing?

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    9 August, 2013 at 05:32
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    #9 Queenian

    How on earth does Noord Kaap get to number 13 surely there is something wrong there.

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    9 August, 2013 at 05:08
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    #8 Grasshopper

    Looks a good top 5, Westville look too high, doubt they would beat Monnas, Garsies or Waterkloof, but if they jump a place up not even playing then fair enough. Now it’s not a dislike of Westville it’s just an observation. To me Westville around 15th is more accurate and Kearsney at 10 as they are also too high. Glenwood at 19 is fair….

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    8 August, 2013 at 22:39
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    #7 Klofie Pa

    @EG Ouer: Lyk my Nellies is weer oppad na n “uncontested scrum” soos hulle met ons gedoen het op St.Johns!!!
    Let op EG!!

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    8 August, 2013 at 20:07
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    #6 EG Ouer

    @Klofie Pa: Stem saam. Hulle moes nie die wedstryd skuif nie. Maar soos ek verstaan was dit n versoek van Nelspruit on dit te skuif. As gevolg van die 1 seun wat hulle in die SA Skole span het

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    8 August, 2013 at 19:48
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    #5 Klofie Pa

    @jakes: Weer geluk met daai seun van julle wat ingesluit is!!
    Groot prestasie vir EG wat dan natuurlik bedryf word deur Mr. de Beer, ex Waterkloof onderwyser en waanemende Hoof van ons. Het nog altyd die grootste respek gehad vir die man!!
    IMO dink ek dit sal verkeerd wees om jul game te skuif na Ma. Die Bio-ritmes van die seuns gaan omgekrap raak!! Ek verstaan n speler maak n groot veskik maar om die hele span te ontwrig weet ek nie!!
    Maar soos ek se… my opinie!!
    ns. Gaan vir Justin mis volgende week!! Maar ons gun die donner!!

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    8 August, 2013 at 18:17
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    #4 jakes

    @ Valke- baie dankie, sal die game met ‘n Valkoog dophou:):)- sterkte Jansen

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    8 August, 2013 at 14:32
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    #3 valke

    @jakes: Jakes, sover ek weet is die wedstryd geskuif na Maandag, 19 de.

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    8 August, 2013 at 13:45
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    #2 jakes

    @EG Ouer- stem saam, well done EG Jansen, die spelers , die afrigters en onderwysers wat julle laaste paar jaar reg kry met rugby in die skool. “n Skool wat heelwat kleiner is as die tradisionele grotes. Vernaam 2013 is daar 3 spanne in Beeld trofee halfeindrondtes. Geskiedenis vir die skool van Boksburg. EG ouer, hoe gaan die eerste span wedsryd teen Nelspruit ge- affekteer word op die 17de siende dat beide skole spelers moet afstaan vir die SA skole??

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    8 August, 2013 at 13:33
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    #1 EG Ouer

    Well done EG Jansen. Julee doen skitterend hierdie jaar. Die wen oor Garsfontein was n grote

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    8 August, 2013 at 13:22

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