The formula driven ranking system
| Rank | Last Week | Team | Avg Pts / Game |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1 | Paarl Gim | 4.60 |
| 2 | 2 | AHS (Affies) | 4.15 |
| 3 | 3 | Outeniqua | 4.09 |
| 4 | 4 | Grey College | 3.62 |
| 5 | 5 | EG Jansen | 3.01 |
| 6 | 9 | Nelspruit | 2.91 |
| 7 | 8 | Glenwood | 2.88 |
| 8 | 13 | HJS Paarl | 2.73 |
| 9 | 7 | Kearsney | 2.71 |
| 10 | 12 | Westville BHS | 2.68 |
| 11 | 10 | Pretoria Boys High | 2.65 |
| 12 | 16 | Rondebosch | 2.56 |
| 13 | 15 | Noord-Kaap | 2.38 |
| 14 | 6 | HTS Middelburg | 2.36 |
| 15 | 11 | St Andrews | 2.34 |
| 16 | 23 | Waterkloof | 2.33 |
| 17 | 19 | Maritzburg College | 2.33 |
| 18 | 14 | Oakdale | 2.29 |
| 19 | 18 | HTS Drostdy | 2.26 |
| 20 | 17 | Garsfontein | 2.24 |
| 21 | 20 | Grey PE | 2.13 |
| 22 | 22 | Monument | 2.12 |
| 23 | 24 | Die Brandwag | 2.08 |
| 24 | 21 | Paul Roos | 2.07 |
| 25 | 25 | Marlow | 2.04 |
| 26 | 26 | Menlopark | 1.97 |
| 27 | 27 | Voortrekker (Bethlehem) | 1.96 |
| 28 | 35 | Boland Landbou | 1.93 |
| 29 | – | Queens College | 1.79 |
| 30 | 32 | Eldoraigne | 1.69 |
| 31 | 33 | Jim Fouche | 1.69 |
| 32 | 30 | Centurion | 1.69 |
| 33 | 37 | Wynberg BHS | 1.59 |
| 34 | 36 | Jeppe | 1.59 |
| 35 | 28 | Kempton Park | 1.56 |
| 36 | 29 | SACS | 1.55 |
| 37 | 38 | Stellenberg | 1.54 |
| 38 | 49 | Selborne | 1.50 |
| 39 | 34 | Bishops | 1.49 |
| 40 | 31 | Hugenote (Well) | 1.49 |
| 41 | 44 | Tygerberg | 1.48 |
| 42 | 41 | Nico Malan | 1.39 |
| 43 | 40 | Durbanville | 1.29 |
| 44 | 42 | Framesby | 1.28 |
| 45 | 45 | Bellville | 1.27 |
| 46 | 39 | Ben Vorster | 1.26 |
| 47 | 43 | Daniel Pienaar | 1.25 |
| 48 | 46 | Hentie Cilliers | 1.16 |
| 49 | 47 | Brackenfell | 1.13 |
| 50 | – | Parktown Boys | 1.05 |
@BOG: Ou Bog aan daai vrot bene laat ek nie eers my skoonma se tannie se windgat agterklein neef se honde eet nie. Dankie maar loop weg.
@Tjoppa: Ek het die kontrak om die beesmis en horings te verwyder van Loftus na hulle wedstryde teen die Cheetahs. Hier en daar is daar nog n been met n vleisie aan as julle belangstel.
@Ploegskaar: Sal maar ‘n paar sessies boek by sussie se tanbed en vir die ou tannies lieg. Sien uit na twee naweke se nat harde rugby.
@Tjoppa: Nee jong, hier mot dit tot in September en selfs Oktober, so jy sal jou maar moet beperk tot wynplase met kaggels en beesstert.
@Ploegskaar: Nee Ploeg bly darem in ‘n gerespekteerde sekerheids kompleks vir ou mense. Nie armlastige mense nie maar net hel suinig. Ek eet maar elke aand take aways. Gee die gevriesde tupperware bakkies, wat die dogter aandra, vir die tannie lanksaan se honde. Maar die goed wil ook nie vrek nie. Sussie se kos gee hulle net loopmaag en dit is al.
Het vandag bevestig is daar by julle vanaf 1 Augustus en keer terug die 13de. Hoop nie die weer is sleg nie. Sal graag ‘n tan of twee wil inpas.
@Tjoppa: Watse kombuis, eet julle dan nie Meals-on-wheels elke dag nie? Wat van die kospakkies van die plaaslike Rotariërs Klub, met lekker mietbeskuikies en opgeblaasde blikkieskos? Kan ook beter as sopbene doen, reël sommer gou ‘n paar lekker taai tjops van ‘n paar pisramme, dan kan die ooms en tannies dit so met die gums suig tot die smaak weg is. Wat wil die tannie met die weense worsies doen?
@Ploegskaar: Ploegie die antie by die kombuis vra of het julle nie ‘n bakkie het wat Tswane verbygaan nie. Soek veral lekker bene vir sop. Sy se die ou mensies wie se tande al geloop het hou van murg uitsuig. As jy ook kan laat weet van julle specials. Sy vra of julle viannas ook doen. Maar beslis nie perdevleis nie. Sy se dit kook vinnig blou en dan wil die mensies haar nie glo dit is BLOUBUL sop nie. As jy my jou nommer stuur kan ek dit vir haar gee.
@Queenian: Very good client for the past 15 years, but definitely bi-polar. Will look him up when in Bloem end July.
@Ploegskaar: Thats him
@Queenian: My tjommie Antonio? Sim
@Queenian: Nothing new- Grey has always subsidised Queens. And I did warn you against the inevitability of a falling Rand, and this is nothing-YET. Im giving my age away, but I recall my brother-in-law- having a contact near Nahoon Dam years ago (Not far from Kei Road). We could select a sheep and they then slaughtered it- for the amount of R 7-50. He retained the skin. This was not for half a chop or the middle of its arsehole- the WHOLE sheep for R7-50 !!! Coming back from the UK in 1987, I thought that I was making a killing with the exchange rate of 1 Pound = R3-20. The dollar, just prior to that was $1-40 =R1 (The Rand was stronger) If only I knew!!! If, If If —-
@Ploegskaar: Do you ever sell anything to that mad Porra at Econo Foods in Bloem
Ye sitting with steers weighing 500kg,s already but will have to start selling soon.
@Queenian: I source our beef all the way from the Northern Cape and Western TVL, where prices have been stable for the past few months. Think we will have the seasonal increase in FQ cuts and decline in HQ cuts as the demand for stewing beef increases. I actually increase my purchases on HQ’s though to bone and freeze the round cuts which we process for corned beef in December.
@Queenian: He gets everything at half-price, no-vat etc., worse than a Porra, I will have to call him Rudish Ventersh one of these days
Worse is that I run the company, and have a sales team doing sales, but he gets special treatment, direct from the top! Hopefully will get some pay-back in the form of beers sometime, who knows, maybe even at the QR next year if Warren goes. My family is keen anyway, so lets see.
@BOG: If you were in Bloem, I would have hand-delivered your chicken parcel at the end of July, but I recall that you are currently living further north. Bloem is unfortunately as far as I will venture, but you can have a Stadium Fast Foods Burger on me next time you are in Bloem again, I will arrange if you give me prior notice.
@Ploegskaar: Remember any chicken sold to a Old Grey College boy must have a 25% duty on it and anything sold to a Queenian a 25% discount.
Ploeg whats happening with the beef prices?
@Ploegskaar: @QC86: Hey you better load that chicken quickly with the rand plumetting QC86 might just have to pay more by Friday
@BOG: did you wash that thing this morning,if not eat your nando’s with your other hand.
@Ploegskaar: Can you deliver half a chicken with Nandos peri-peri saice and a 500 ml Coke in Bloem too, please. The Steak Ill get in the Kei cuttings
As Stellenberg elke jaar alles seuns van Eversdal, Gene Louw, paar van Kenridge en Durbanville laer kan he sal hulle binne 5 jaar elke jaar top 10 wees. As ek terug dink na my jare op skool sou ons elke jaar die kaapse skole gewen het en hier en daar vir die 4 boland skole kon wen as ons daai talent alles behou het. Kyk maar hoe Stellenberg se Netbal spanne doen. Ek dink my suster het haar hele hoerskool loopbaan gegaan sonder om ooit n wedstryd te verloor. Dit was wel die jare voor hulle teen spanne van ander provinsies gespeel het.
Hulle sal dalk eers n koshuis moet aanbou voor hulle manne van verder af sal kan intrek.
@QC86: Loading Friday, this is not a drive-thru, build a bigger fridge!
@CharlesZA: Ek twyfel of daar enige verband sal wees…Vir elke 1 rugbyspeler wat Stellenberg behou uit Eversdal of Gene Louw is daar 10 van ander skole op n waglys by PRG, PB, PG en BL…Die voederskole en opvang gebied vir die groot 4 is net baie wyer as die res.
@Ploegskaar: hey ploeg load that chicken i need it by Friday,
@CharlesZA: Ek verneem oor 2 jaar kan dit dalk bietjie swaarder gaan, maar soos jy sê, daarna behoort hulle sterk te staan. Dink as die skool ernstig is om die rugby te ontwikkel, kan dit oor ‘n paar jaar ‘n impak hê, maar dan sal daar volgehoue welslae oor ‘n verlengde tydperk moet wees om leerders te lok, sowel as ‘n daadwerklike en volgehoue poging deur die skool, gemeenskap en besighede uit die area om dit te onderhou. Daarby is die Durbanville area ook net een van vele areas waarvan leerders by genoemde skole kom en in my opinie sal Stellenberg ook hulle net wyer as net die onmiddelike area moet gooi as hulle werklik suksesvol wil wees.
Dit lyk of volgende jaar baie goed gaan wees, dan 1 af jaar en daarna behoort dinge nog beter te gaan. Lyk of the o15 en o14 talent baie hoog is. Is dit te ver gevat om te dink dat n verbetering in ons talent sal n direkte effek he op skole soos PRG,BH, PG en BL?
@CharlesZA: Jy moet nou die fakkel hier dra as ‘n volbloed Stellenberger, vra vir Beet vir ‘n trui. Volgende jaar gaan daai jongspan nog beter doen! Stellenberg kry darem ‘n jaarlikse kwota wedstryde wat ek gaan kyk, en solank my oudste daar is, sal dit so bly. Wat middel en kleinsus betref, kom ons kyk maar….
Ploeg, baie hartseer om te sien jou trui het verander.
While we on the subject of bursaries. Is there a law that prevents school boys being paid to play? Could a wealthy old boy(booster) pay some boys to attend his school?
Unrelated, when will there be a topic about the coming weeks games? Need to start punting Stellenberg to beat SACS and get into the top 25.
@DieBos: Van wat ek die afgelope 3 jaar van PRG gesien het, is daar beslis geen fout met die talent wat jaarliks daarheen gaan nie en julle ouderdomsgroepe doen oorwegend elke jaar baie goed. Om een of ander rede word hierdie sukses egter nie deurgevoer in die ope of spesifiek eerstes nie. ‘n Sprekende voorbeeld is Saterdag waar PRG iets soos 16 van die 19 wedstryde gewen het, twee gelykop gespeel het, maar steeds die belangrike hoofwedstryd verloor het. Ek dink julle het die talent, fasilitiete en regte afrigting in plek, maar moontlik is die druk en verwagting op die seuns wat daardie eerstes trui aantrek, net te groot. Voor Landbou se wedstryd teen Noord-Kaap het ek ‘n baie eenvoudige boodskap aan die seuns gestuur: Julle speel nie vir bekers of trofeë nie, so daar is geen druk nie. Speel eerstens om die game te geniet en die res is ‘n bysaak. Dis tog hoekom die laaties in die eerste plek begin rugby speel het, nie?
@Predator: Agreed, I think most schools offer bursaries in some form or other, although maybe more discreet then elsewhere.
@gimmie: Ek vermoed werwing en beurse word dalk net meer diskreet in die Weskaap gedoen as elders, maar hoe dit ook al sy, Gim se gesonde naam en beeld trek in elk geval elke jaar talentvolle leerders, hetsy vir sport of akademie. Sukses lok sukses, soos hulle sê. Wat die 27ste betref, dink ek die weer kan ‘n groot invloed hê op die dag, maar Gim behoort steeds maklik te wen, op huidige vorm. Guts het hierdie Landbou groep in oormaat, nou nog net ‘n vol span op die veld kry vir ‘n slag hierdie seisoen. Alles van die beste teen ‘Bosch die naweek.
@gimmie: I agree 100% with what you are saying – the subject of awarding bursaries to talented sportsmen including cricket, rugby, swimming, rowing, athletics, tennis etc. etc. has been around for many years at many schools – as is the practice of awarding bursaries for music and academic achievements. Also the practice of appointing talented sports, art, drama and/or music directors and paying for professional coaches to assist teachers in providing the boys with the best possible chance to excel in whatever they are doing must be the right way to go for schools who can afford it.
Some schools use corporate sponsorships, some use wealthy old boys and some form foundations run by parents and/or old boys to raise funds to pay for this – that is all good and must be encouraged. At the end of the day if a boy gets offered a bursary then that is great – for him, his family and his school. Instead of complaining about these schools maybe people should talk about finding ways to encourage the poorer schools to raise funds so they too can start doing the same thing?
Must say as much as i like Queens jump to 29 i think by beating Kingswood maybe about 37 would be justified. Another jump like that and we will be in the Top 10 Yipee
@gimmie: Huidiglik is dit beleid in Paul Roos om nie spelers te “koop” nie. Dit is ‘n fout. Paul Roos vaar swak, want daar is geen sterspelers in die span nie. Volgende jaar gaan hulle weer swak wees. Huidige o/16 groep lyk belowend
@Mike: I support numerous teams. Monument, Framesby, Paarl Gym and The Kwaggas.
As you can see I have a team everywhere and I generally support Top 10 teams except for Framesby. I am dutchie who also pretends to be English.
Good luck in Grahamstown this weekend, judging by the way the season has gone you guys are really going to need it. The battle of the Eastern Cape QUEERS!!!!!!
@Predator: Paarl Gim does not offer or award bursaries. I can only think that the person you spoke to applied for exemption to pay school fees in the same way (and to the same national rules) that many parents who cannot afford school fees, apply.
@Ploegskaar: @gimmie: I don’t think this is true, I spoke to a parent of Gimmies at the Kwagga week and he told me that his son was awarded a bursary at Gimmies. All the top performing schools have some or other bursary scheme in place,…this is one of the main contributing factors for the results that these schools produce year on year.
@sacssuporter, remember a school like Paul Roos is an excellent school but has unfortunately consistently underperformed in rugby over the past 30 years. I understand that they must be desperate to match the achievements of schools like Boishaai and Gym. Especially as they have more than double the number of boys than Gym. If they can afford to spend more on coaches and buy players I do not see anything wrong with it as they are excelling academically and in many other areas…they have the resources…
@ploegie, ek is nie bewus van een nie, ons het baie beperkte hulpbronne en ander prioriteite. Ek sou persoonlik graag wou he ons moet in n posisie wees om dit te kan doen deur n paar beurse beskikbaar te stel vir arm begaafde kinders. Wat BL betref dink ek julle presteer uitsonderlik, ons is alreeds bekommerd oor wat op 27 Julie op die plaas gaan gebeur. ons moet egter besef dat soos skole rugby meer professioneel word sal daar toenemend meer fondse benodig word om kompeterend te bly. BTW, ek sien gereeld advertensies in koerante waar Kaapse engelse skole beurse adverteer…dit is seker maar vir skaak en albasters, or I must be mistaken @sacssuporter.
@gimmie: Is jy seker julle bied nie selfs informele beurse by wyse van skoolgelde wat betaal word deur simpatieke besighede of ouers nie? Vra bloot, maar moet bevestig dat Gim selde in werwingsirkels ter sprake kom. BTW, hoe moeilik dink jy is dit nie vir die manne op die Plaas om te kompeteer nie!
Apologies, I meant I have NO complaints because the youngsters benefit by getting into a top school
@sacssuporter, I firmly believe you simply cannot buy success. a school like Paarl Gym will never be able to to Compete financially with the southern suburb schools,Boishaai and Paul Roos. Our success is based on hard work and good coaching. That said, if schools like Boishaai, sacs, rondebosch and bishops can afford to grant bursaries to talented players then i have complaints because the pupils benefit by attending top schools…
@The Beast: I’ve never actually seen you support any team. What are you doing on this blog anyway ?
Where is “Charlie and the Wing Nuts”………..trying to make up some more Grey PE gibberish?
@Tjoppa: Yeah…..hence the dots after was awaiting your answer…………..hahahaha
It seems KingCharles has disappeared, been waiting for his reply the whole day
@The Beast: Not personal only honest.@The Beast: Then we will leave you alone to chirp yourself. We misunderstood your intensions. Not looking to “talk” to anybody but yourself. I do apologise. I got it wrong again.
@Woltrui: You always speak the utmost sense, have you noticed I only chirp people who talk crap.
@Tjoppa: You getting quite personal hey tjop tjop………….
@The Beast: You are a hundred percent right but it does not take a child of 2 to recognize an asshole like you.
@Tjoppa: No man Tjoppie. We must make Beast a member of the NOBU (Northvaal Bloggers Union). Get some fire in the blogs.
@Tjoppa: You obviously don’t understand English.
@Stormberg Mountains: Guys like Beast is better ignored. Beet can we have a site with an age requirement. This is even below my poor standards.
@Ludz: i also want to hear what he has to say, lets wait and listen
@The Beast: that statement is wrong on so many levels
@QC86: he’s a rare sight on these pages
@Ludz: where is your buddy playa,very hush hush after the weekend
@GreenBlooded: I agree that they are evenly matched and are both playing good ball . It would be interesting to play a second game at Glenwood to see how that would pan out.
@Ludz: Seems as though King Charles “statements” could have racial tones to them?
@TheGoose: There is always the option of the last week of term after the Hilton Game. It could be played on any of the days from Teusday to give the boys a rest after Saturday.
@Kingcharles: what would you mean by totally black?
@BOG: JY hou duidelik daarvan om ,bog, te praat.As jy gelees het wat ek geskryf het sal jy sien ek het jou geantwoord.Of was jou vergrootglas dalk nie te vinde.Ek probeer glo dat grey saterdag n 50 present kans het om te wen en n 70 present kans het om te verloor.H ang baie van jou ref af.WIe tel elke keer jou speelgoed op.As julle saterdag verloor glo ek julle sal weer die g e s k i e d e n i s boekie moet gebruik as n troosmiddel.
@Maroon: Ou Thysie se grootbek het hom al baie geleenthede gegee en ek glo nie veel het afgekom nie. Ek persoonlik dink ‘n onderwyser moet altyd in beheer wees by skolespanne. Hulle verstaan gewoonlik hoe om met kinders te werk en verstaan die manier van dinge doen by so ‘n span. Die HPC daar by julle hoor die dinge wil ook nie so lekker vlot nie. Wat makeer?
@jakkie: Dit lyk vir my of jy van daardie spuitstof ingeasem het. As jy lees- kry hulp indien nodig, sal jy merk dat ek gereageer het op Kakker, jou maatjie se stronsoekery. Klim dus terug in jou hokkie totdat jou aandag verlang word som vir my in twee kort sinnetjies op wat jy probeer se het sodat ek dit kan lees wanneer my omstandighede dit toelaat, Op n afstand lyk dit vir my na stront.
@sacssupporter: The school and Thys parted ways at the end if the 2012 season. Frans van Niekerk ( teacher and deputy rector) is back in charge of Paul Roos rugby. The first team coach is Hein Kriek ( also a teacher at Paul Roos) and he is assisted by Dawie Snyman senior.
@sacssupporter: I know that he was up north as well and went down to PRG. His spel up north was for only 1 and a half season. Would be good to know where he is now!
Relax Beasty Boy,i don,t want to give you a heart attack,i only comment on what i see as factual,just for the record Grey High do not buy players indiscriminately at under 14 level they see what they have and weigh it up against what they need,and then they will approach a few parents,who believe me are only to willing to be bought,they in actual fact offer there boys to the school in return for free school fee,s.Also Grey only buy local ( EC ) only two boys in the current 1st xv were bought at u 16 level ,they are Martin Groenewald from Nico Malan and Junior Pokomela from Victoria Park.
Stormberg Mountains.I sympathise with you buddy,my old school has gone the same way as Queens is going,it is now a totally Black school and no longer play rugby,i am not a Grey old boy ,my son is,but really no need to get so uptight,things are as they are.Call me a liar for a few points,fact remains you are no longer competitive at all lower levels.Grey High has always been a good rugby school,but by no means a powerhouse,and they are much stronger these days than in days gone bye,i have been following them since the early eighty,s and each year i hear the same old saying “watch us next year”well i am still watching and they dont seem to get any better.
@sacssupporter: I know he is involved in supplying sports’ clothing e.g. rugby shorts, jerseys etc. I think the brand is “Brutal”.
I’m not sure if he is still coaching though.
@Grasshopper: No Grassy, I do not degrade schools starting with a G.
I have missed you at the matches in the Cape, you watching all the B-Division games in the Southern Suburbs?
@sacssupporter: It seems as though you have the same sickness as some of the Glenwood and Grey supporters as in S H 1 T spouts from your mouth.
Before you publish numbers like that get your facts straight.
@Mike: @Mike: Good advice from Greenblooded, I too have been drawn into childish debates with the Beast in the past, but have finally learnt not to take the bait. It seems he likes to degrade schools starting with G, so maybe Garsfontein are next….
@Maroon: What happened to Thys Stoltz – he was there last year and he was not a teacher and he was rumoured to be on a package of R700k – maybe you can correct the rumours if they are wrong?
@Stormberg Mountains: haha I think he’d be fairly upset. Lets agree to disagree.
@Mike:
Mate i can only send you back to the foundation phase for you to understand the difference between Gray and Grey.
“Gray and grey are different spellings of the same word, and both are used throughout the English-speaking world. But gray is more common in American English, while grey is more common in all the other main varieties of English.” If we put it into this context – haha – yo’ll just a colour, because we do not use American English,
I wonder what Sir George Grey would say about his legacy only being deemed a colour?!?
Birds of a Feather……………………Glenwood and Grey PE!!!!!!
Ek weet nie hoekom almal “bang” is vir Grey en hoekom ons eers tyd spandeer om so baie oor hulle te praat nie. Al hoe meer skole begin hulle wen, omdat hulle nie VREES vir hulle het nie.
@GreenBlooded: Yeah I’ve seen him have a go at you guys too. Thanks for the advice mate, will definitely take it.
Bog, jy laat my dink aan ‘n alleenkind wat voortdurend al die aandag en lofprysing wil ontvang en as jy nie doen nie, maak jy bohaai en gooi al jou speelgoed uit die pram. Elke week is dit dieselfde rympies en se-goedjies oor Grey se verlede, wat jy tot vervelens toe herhaal, so asof jy ‘n minderwaardigheidskompleks het. Ek sien nooit dat Paul Roos, Boishaai, Paarl Gim, Affies, Waterkloof, Kearsney, Glenwood, Kwaggas en ander topklas skole se old boys, wanneer hulle verloor, praat van jare en seisoene van die verlede nie. En dit dan elke dag herhaal en herhaal nie. Wat jammer is, is dat die mense na jou luister en sulke bemarkings-artikels vol vrees vir Grey post soos dié oor die opkomende wedstryd teen boishaai die naweek. Rerig, was dit nodig? Boishaai het ook al etlike seisoene beleef waar hulle vir soortgelyke tydperke onoorwonne was, maar nou ja. Kry jou feite reg as jy wil neerkyk op my alma mater waarop ek moer trots is en self die eerste span trui vir twee seisoene met trots gedra het: ek kan nie onthou dat Kwaggas al agtereenvolgende wedstryde verloor het nie. Jys n grap, ek dink nie eers jy het die eerste span trui van Grey gedra nie, as jy het sal ek graag wil hoor watter jaar. Jy praat van Grey se sukses, as jou sukses, jy moet oppas daarvoor. Dis hartseer om groter te probeer wees as so tradisieryke instansie. Respekteer die ander skole, besef Grey is nie almagtig nie, en los asb die geskiedenis-klasse. Dis boring.
@Mike: As you are new on this forum – please accept this friendly piece of advice: The Beast is nothing more than a common blog troll who likes nothing more that to cause k@k and get reactions from people. Foremost on his radar are the Glenwood bloggers, now it seems he has it in for Grey High as well. The best way to deal with Beast is to IGNORE HIM completely and definately not to react to his taunts. Remove the audience and the clown becomes redundant.
@The Beast: I love how you’ve probably picked this ‘buying’ thing up and decided for yourself that Grey definitely bough these kids, poached them in grade 11. Please do me a favour, go and find out from the horses mouth, if any incentive what so ever was given to these kids in question to come to grey. One last thing. All I’ve seen you do on this blog is criticize other schools. I do nothing but support my old school here , you should do the same instead of having a go at a proud 157 year old school. Go ahead and tell everyone who it is you support and what province you support so you can stop hiding behind complete anonymity of your beast avatar. @Stormberg Mountains: haha it was a great weekend. I will tell give you the same grammar lesson I’ve had to give many a time before. Gray is a colour, Grey is a legend , Queens can’t spell.
@Mike: Locks -new arrivals,
Mind the grammar, still getting used to this iPhone, not used to touch pads
And i do know that in 2012 Queens won 4 games including the 1st team game and the 2nd team drew 9-9. I repeat what i said, you guys do beat us, but its not the walk over you think it is
@Kingcharles:
If you think by Queens struggling in PORT ELIZABETH means that we don’t compete at all levels, then you should start reconsidering the Paul Roos and Grey Bleom games yourselves, as they whitewash grey always and there and there there is a surprise victory. Grey is stronger then Queens nowdays but it doesn’t warrant you to say such lies thay Queens suffer 50-60 point loses for all the games down the line.
Rugby vs Grey PE
14A lost 7-51
14B lost 10-27
14C lost 0-44
14D lost 0-41
15A lost 7-48
15B lost 5-37
15C lost 7-32
15D won 14-12
16A lost 5-35
16B lost 0-53
16C lost 3-58
8th lost 0-72
7th lost 0-34
6TH lost 0-46
5TH lost 0-27
4TH lost 5-29
3RD lost 12-53
2ND lost 7-38
1ST lost 13-20
Not to forget this was Greys reunion, the biggest weekend of the school, and its expected that they will come out hungry to show old boys of yesteryears that the traditions of the college are still instilled, and running well
Those are all the games vs Grey from the QC website, and there are 5 or 4 games where QC didn’t give account of themselves, stop think you’ll are that good, Grey PE is not the powerhouse it used to be, and its sad that only people that went there are seeing the failed attempts to become the greats you were in back in the eary 2000’s. Your 1st xv coach has captained and won a currie cup, and not so long ago bought the best fullback in the border region who is now playing second team at Grey.
@Mike: haha i like your debates mate, facts are off the essence. Haha i always remind my mates from Grey this, Grey is only a colour, and Queens is a legacy
. Well done on the games on the 10-11 of may, ways great being part of it.
@Mike: So I suppose recruiting boys from local schools in Grade 11 does not count for poaching?
You are fast becoming the “Glenwood” of the Eastern Cape but without the same success. You have 400 boys in your Open Division and yet you still need to recruit boys in their Grade 11 year?
Surely you can find 15 rugby players amongst those without having to “poach” Grade 11’s from neighbouring schools?
Good luck at Lower this weekend, you are gonna need it and we all know how you guys detest losing to the Snoozles, get ready to rack up another loss.
@Kingcharles: As I am sure, you have gathered, the crowd here is fairly representative of society as a whole. On those occasions where I simply indulge in talking sh1t, then invariably, its determined by the one who i am addressing. So, my apologies. The following is a perfect example;@wakker akker: Jy het nog nie aangedui hoe jy die trauma van agtereenvolgende en jarelange verlore verwerk nie. Wat nou gebeur is niks anders as wat in die verlede gebeur het nie. Grey beleef twee sg maer jare (Vir meeste, sal dit uiters suksesvolle jare wees) terwyl julle n “goeie” jaar beleef. Ek begryp dus jou misplaasde opgewondenheid, maar sal baie verbaas wees , gemeet aan die verlede, of dit vir enige tydperk volgehou sal word. Ek verstaan ook dat jy jouself op n iewat vreemde terrein van sukses vind, maar as iemand met jarelange ervaring daarvan, wil ek maar miskien voorstel dat jy nederig bly, hoe moeilik dit ookal vir jou mag wees. Intussen wag ek vir jou advies oor die hantering van jarelange verlore.
@The Beast: if you’re going to make a statement like that then be prepared to back it up with some facts. I don’t get how you can say Grey high doesn’t develop talent when it has quite a couple of players playing super rugby at the moment. And if you’re going to call grey high poachers, please name the kids that were poached. Of the 15 boys in the starting line up in the current 1st Xv at grey high, 13 have been there since grade 8. Ernst stapelberg left grey in grade 9, Daniel du plessis, left grey in grade 7 and Stephan rautenbach left grey in grade 9. All players who could have been playing in the 1st Xv today. It’s your comments that make no sense.
@MyKroon: Ek dink ook dit is meer gesond vir SA rugby nou dat daar minder Grey spelers in is .Mooi gestel.Jy weet wat jy van praat of hoe?
@wakker akker: Jy is besig om regtig nou **** te praat. Julle sal nooit ooit die sukses bereik wat Grey al bereik het nie. En ja, daar is meskien minder SA skole spelers van Grey maar ek dink dit is mos gesond vir SA rugby
@Kingcharles: Your comments are ridiculous, what is the point if all rugby talent is owned by a few schools.
How much did Grey High do for Wesley Dunlop? He played 3rd team at Grey cos nobody gave him a chance, look at the guys who played ahead of him, where they now?
I am sick and tired of schools like Grey High decimating the local talent in the EC, groom your own damn kids for a change and leave the rest.
@Mike: So it’s no problem plundering local talent from other schools? Then coming up with statements like Grey have nobody else to play because these schools have no depth. Don’t you think it is time for Grey to develop their own talent?
If you cannot find 50 decent rugby players out of each Grade of 200 then I do not know what the school is doing. Grey PE is one of the biggest poachers of local talent which erodes the capabilities of all local schools to compete against them.
Maybe Grey should set up their own province in the EC and play an internal league against themselves.
POACHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vrede, broers, vrede.
Zumaville, Guptagate, NUM se 60% salarisverhogingeis en geweld in die Kaap oor toilette……
Kom ons geniet skolerugby solank ons kan in goeie gees.
@Kingcharles: On the buying issue. I have no issue when boys from their own region move around within that region. To me it becomes a problem when schools from outside of the province approach boys who are already at good rugby playing schools and offer them spots outside of the province. It’s one things recruiting the likes of kolisi out of Motherwell and sergeal Peterson out of humansdorp, and Jj engelbrecht out of kirkwood. And Greys ‘buying’ policy is that old grey boys offer to pay for the boy in question. Not the school itself. All in all as someone who lives and supports EC rugby, I’d like to see the players who are already being developed at good schools here, stay in the province , not pack their bags for the private schools in Cape Town or wherever. It’s obviously a different story if the family relocates
@BOG: bog ons verloor was teen die nommer 1 skool, onoorwonne, vrek goeie span. Julle twee verlore was teen Affies (2) en, volgens jou, die spannetjie wat soos gereeld verloor en ongereeld wen. So wat jy eintlik se is julle is maar uiters baie kak die jaar. Verstaan dus dan jou pyn!
BOG i am new on this blog,but have been reading what you put up since the beginning of the season,agree mostly as to what you say and value your comments.Yes rugby has become proffesional from u 14 level upwards,all top 20 schools recruit boys who are finishing primary school,they look at what they have from there own juniors and then fill in the gaps from elswhere,but there are certain schools all over the country who want in on the big league,so they recruit whole teams at u14 level,and the schools who lose out are mostly the schools in the Eastern Cape,Boland,and South Western Districts,who just dont have the resources to keep these players,and off course there are certain quota,s to be met on the colour front,so big Afrikaans schools go for the coloured boys from the Boland,and the big English schools go for the black boys from the Eastern Cape.So what is to be done about it ? i say nothing,let it go ahead and find its own level,at least these kids can now make a living out of sport.not just rugby,about time soccer came to the party,most of these kids only play rugby because there are no school leagues in soccer.no fields to play on and no money available,so rugby must clime in and take over,which is what they are doing,and long may it continue.
@Tjoppa: Goeie roep.Wonder wat Bog voorspel?
@BOG: Jong bog jy praat darem baie kras hier in 2013 .Geskiedenis is waarvan jy lief is om oor te praat .Rugby het nou professioneel geword en meer kinders besef dit nou .Die jare wat Grey BLOEM so maklik kon wen is nou iets van die verlede en jy moet nou maar daarmee vrede maak.Meer skole neem die sport nou ernstig op soos julle al die jare gedoen het .Dit is my rede vir die verskil.Selfs laas jaar het dit gewys as jy kyk na die SA u18 span.Waar was grey. Hierdie jaar sien ek net n no.15 wat aanspraak maak.Ons Kwaggas het nog twee rillers Affies en Paarl Gym.Ons praat weer hieroor .Baie talent in SA skole rugby.Sterkte met julle nuwe era.
@Woltrui: Ja Wolboudjies, dit vat nie veel om jou te beindruk nie. Met daardie telling van die Cherries teen julle, het ek begrip vir jou bewondering.
@Maroon: Selfde hier, en sterkte met die res van die seisoen.
@Kingcharles: I dont think that the rugby has improved. On the contrary. Much has been said about the schools catching up to GCB, but I rather think that the quality of last year and this years sides, have declined. As I said elsewhere, as the standard of education declines, the demand for places in a handful of schools, not just for rugby, will increase even further. Must say, I appreciate the term, “buying in bulk” I think Dale can tell you something about that.
@wakker akker: Hou van jou top 10 Akker. Miskien tog plek maak vir die Cherries.
@Ploegskaar: ook maar met geluk. Dink hulle het die plaas meer geniet as ek! Lekker om julle te ontmoet!
@wakker akker: Wakker Kakker, mag ek voorstel dat jy jou naam verander na Slapende Kakker. Jy is heeltemal reg, en ek het jou al mooi gevra om hulp. GCB het nou al twee wedstryde verloor, en ek sukkel om dit te hanteer. Jy is mos in n ideale posisie met jarelange ervaring om seisoen na seisoen te verloor. Hoe hanteer julle die onophoudelike pyn? Die ongereelde wenne kan tog seker nie daarvoor opmaak nie? Hoeveel het julle nou al verloor? Net een! Maggies, n hele helfte minder. Asseblief, help my om hierdie pyn te verwerk. As n ervare verloorder, smeek ek jou hulp.
Rugbyfan,no not rich at all,i am well aware Grey PE buy players,but not in bulk as is the case in KZN,I am only aware of two 1st xv players at Grey that were bought at u16 level,there might be a few more that started at u14 level,but most of the 1st xv squad still did there schooling at Grey Junior.Most of Queens ???? not a chance,looking at there junior teams,there is nothing to buy.
@Maroon: Jy jou kinders gekry? Ek soek nog myne
@Tjoppa: i think he will enjoy it if I tell him what the rumours are regarding his salary package:)
@Maroon: A well paid teacher?
@wakker akker: Wonder how low can they go. boishaai to win by 4.
@Kingcharles: Meant Queens and not Quuens
@Kingcharles: Thats a bit rich coming from a school which has most of Quuen,s talent in there ranks these days.
No offence meant by that just talent as i know there quite a few Queens Old Boys kids at GCB even the Captain of the current 1st team.
@CharlesZA: I think ploegskaar will do the update during this week. I think Stellenberg’s U/14 team’s ranking is quite high – in the top 20 if not higher up
Glenwood and KC I reckon are on a par this year. Like I said, it would’ve been a decider to play them later in the season. In fairness their beating Boisaai pushed them up, rightly so. Need to play the best to benefit from a weighted system.
@sacssupporter: maybe you should just state which schools you refer to. The director of rugby at Paul Roos is a teacher at the school.
New to this site. Nice to see all the information and banter going on. Evern better to see my school Stellenberg having a good season so far which was highlighted by the win over Landbou. Sure ploegskaar will be sad about that one.
Any site do ranking of other age groups? Curious to see where Stellenberg would rank with their u14 and u15 teams.
GREY NEEM POSISIE NOM. 11 IN TOT EN MET NOU.
@Kingcharles: It is sad that the schools with the biggest rugby budgets are attracting the better players. There is a school in the Boland region who play for WP with a rugby budget that is said to be bigger than some Vodacom cup teams….and they too are getting beaten this year by some “smaller budget” schools – this puts huge pressure on their “directors of rugby” who earn somewhere in the region of R700k a year? However, at the end of the day there does seem to be many more schools vying for top 20 slots this year so overall schoolboy rugby is improving across SA…
1=PAARL GYM/AFFIES
3=OUTENIQUA
4=E.G EN NELSPRUIT
6=KEARSNEY/GLENWOOD
8=HJS PAARL\WATERKLOOF\GARSFONTEIN
TOP TIEN
@Buffel: Kearsney has suggested next Tuesday pm – when the school gets back from half-term. But Westers (I think) said that Westville are playing their Founders Weekend game this weekend, so Tuesday may be too soon.
Maybe the standard of schoolboy rugby at 1st xv level has improved,but i am not so sure about the depth at most of these schools,just look at the results of some of the lower teams from 3rd xv down to u 14 level,i just take the Queens vs Grey games a couple of weeks ago ,these two teams are considered to be top tier 1 schools but only at 1st team level,lower down the winning margins for Grey were 50 to 60 points per game,and the only reason some schools can now compete is because they buy stronger players from other regions,just take the top KZN schools such as Glenwood and Maritzberg,almost all there black players are from the Eastern Cape and most of there white players are Afrikaans boys brought in to strengthen the 1st xv only.
This is a strange old year – many upsets each week – consistency seems to be a problem for many schools this year – it could be injuries or it could be over confidence but this year seems to be the year of upsets – what is fair to say is that the standard of schoolboy rugby has improved at most schools. The gap is getting closer and there are many more schools across the country who are producing very good first teams.
Agree with you Dave,the quality of our local Eastern Cape schools has dropped this year,having watched Grey,Queens ,Daniel Pienaar and Framesby this year its very concerning that they are not up there.Grey are about the best i have seen,but even they can count themselves lucky to be at 21,they just don,t seem to be able to put it together,the talent is there,i just think maybe the coaches have got it wrong,for me there are also selection problems,or maybe there are injuries that i don,t know about.There are at least 4 players from Grey,that started that have just disapeared,no longer playing for any team,can only assume they are injured,but who knows ?
@Buffel: In fairness, Glenwood have issued a few good smacks as well in the last few weeks (House, Hilton, DHS) not to mention beating much fancied opposition at Wildeklawer (Landbou and Boishaai). I’m not going to fall into the trap of debating rankings – but I will say I think that Kearsney and Glenwood are much of a muchness in KZN as the 1 point scoreline between them suggests.
You give a school a good smack and move down the ladder. What would it take to move up, 100-0. Glenwood have lost a few games this season and find themselves above Kearsney in the rankings, Just a thought but then it would be unfashionable to have one of the privates up near the top ,specially one from KZN. Please can they give us a date for the Westville/Kearsney clash. Hopefully it goes ahead as there are some interesting match ups that need to be settled.
Eastern Cape schools: It is a bit alarming to our region to see how many of the eastern cape schools have dropped far or totally off the top 20 list. In 2012 Dale, Grey High, Framesby and Daniel Pienaar were in the top 20 and this year it seems that Grey is the only one just hanging on and the others have dropped out totally. Brandwag have also made a huge impression so far this year. With Craven week coming up this just seems a bit worrying considering how well they did last year
@ BHP Ek vertrou jou stelsel, maar hierdie week gaan ek van jou verskil tensy jy kan verduidelik hoe Tygerberg na Saterdag se wen oor Wynberg slegs 3 plekke klim en Wynberg ook 4 plekke klim.
Glenwood, Kearsney and Westville are fat too high up, they are late teens at best. Mehtinks the formula skews it a bit as all three have played more games than most. I think Glenwood have played 13 games this season already!
Don’t agree with Glenwood being at 7 – Garsies also seem like they should be higher.
Something has gone very pear shaped with BHP’s formulas – probably a virus!
Parktown are in the top 50, but lost to Bennies (not in Top 50) and by 16 points to St Albans (also not in top 50) and by about 20 points to KES (also not in Top 50)…and by over 100 points to Garisies!!
They beat St John’s and DHS, but neither of those sides are even Top 100 this year.
Agree with the top 4 ,the rest is a toss up at this stage.Glad to see Rndebosch slowly creeping there way up,my team Grey High are a bit lucky to be in the top 20,still waiting for them to click this year,hopefully it happens sooner rather than later