| Home | Away | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pretoria BH | 25 | 23 | M. College | |
| Framesby | 42 | 8 | Despatch | |
| Nico Malan | 24 | 29 | Grey HS | |
| Jeppe | 33 | 24 | Northwood | |
| Grens | 27 | 19 | Dale | |
| Duineveld | – | – | Noord-Kaap | NK withdrew |
| Empangeni | 0 | 49 | Westville | |
| Pinetown | 0 | 82 | Glenwood | |
| George Campbell | 48 | 7 | Hillcrest | |
| Paarl BH | 36 | 45 | Outeniqua | |
| Wynberg | 10 | 10 | Rondebosch | |
| Paul Roos | 22 | 22 | Bishops | |
| SACS | 26 | 22 | Boland Landbou | |
| Stellenberg | 12 | 29 | Drostdy | |
| Tygerberg | 66 | 0 | Primrose | |
| KES | 45 | 22 | Parktown | |
| Affies | 88 | 9 | John Vorster | |
| Waterkloof | 25 | 20 | Sentraal | |
| Marlow | 20 | 34 | Brandwag (EP) | |
| Jeppe | 33 | 24 | Northwood | |
| Sarel Cilliers | 27 | 10 | Ladysmith | |
| Windhoek | 3 | 15 | Kearsney | |
| Daniel Pienaar | 34 | 3 | Itembelihle | |
| Grey College | 62 | 10 | Jim Fouche | |
| Hentie Cilliers | 31 | 22 | Welkom Gim | |
| Louis Botha | 56 | 6 | Sand du Plessis | |
| HTS Middelburg | 59 | 3 | Zwartkop | |
| Ben Vorster | 44 | 20 | Frikkie Meyer | |
| EG Jansen | 62 | 3 | Florida |
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@BuiteBreek: Om die waarheid te se, ek het hulle nog net op Porterville vlugtig gesien speel. Ek het nog nie regtig kans gehad om enige o/14 wedstryd te sien nie, maar sal beslis moeite doen om hulle te kyk na dese.
@wakker akker: Ag shame…lyk my jy is nog nie lekker wakker nie..Gaan kyk eerder wat daar gese is na die game deur myself voor jy sulke belaglike stellings maak.
@BoishaaiPa: KLINK VIR MY DIE KWAGGAS HET REGTIG N GAL PIL IN JOU KEEL GELOS NA HULLE GOEIE OORWINNING VAN 45- 36.EK SE WEER KWAGGAS 45 BOISHAAI 36 IN 2013.
@BHP: Julle moet ‘n oulike 14 groep hê. Outeniqua het ‘n swetterjoel goeie spelers in hul o/14 groep. Maar daardie tellings is scary.
@Tjoppa: Well, you aimed the question at me, so who else?
@Greenwood: I guess it is one of those “you have to be there” scenarios or ideally you should actually communicate with the boys who are playing in order to see whether they learnt any lessons as one should rather ask rather than assume how people feel or what they learnt. For interest sake – it was awesome to see the Pinetown team ‘dancing’ off the field singing.
@HORSEFLY NO.1:
@BoishaaiPa: Never said it was you.
@Ploegskaar: Yip..Dis al wat Kwaggas in die veld kon stoot met 900 seuns!…
@Tjoppa…No, I think your maths are a bit weak…This u/14 team will matriculate in 2017..our 150th is in 2018…Next year’s intake and the year after that is the crucial one for a good 2018!
@BoishaaiPa: thank you,i thought kwaggas u15 a’s would take the game ,was close,i saw your u14a at the kwagga week and they were the best side there
@BoishaaiPa: Kwaggas have a strong Under16 & 15 groups coming through there, maybe another 3 good seasons?
@BoishaaiPa: If I may make any conslusions. A school purchasing a dream team for a special event?????
@BoishaaiPa: Only 14 games?
@QC86: Here is all the results for Paalr Boys vs Outeniqua…Paarl scores first.
0.14 A 31 3
0.14 B 29 0
0.14 C 57 0
0.15 A 20 17
0.15 B 15 0
0.15 C 57 0
0.16 A 8 15
0.16 B 6 7
0.16 C 50 0
0.19 A 36 45
0.19 B 62 19
0.19 C 47 10
0.19 D 47 0
0.19 E 78 0
@Woltrui: Nee my replies het verwys na netelige kwessies van Anglo Boere oorlog ens. Toe word ek summier verwerp. Moet seker besef die baas is ‘n bleddy rooinek.
anybody know what the u14,u15,u16 scores were at Paarl boys?
@Tjoppa: Hi Tjoppie. Wat se “testing testing” is dit met jou? Alles nog reg daar? Die bewegende dele nog werksaam? Raak die tannies op die stoep jou nou baas?
Testing Testing one two three
Baie geluk Kwaggas. Goeie oorwinnings oor groot spanne sover, met al die wedstryde tot dusver weg van die huis. Die groot toets gaan egter wees teen gim in George. Baie respek vir mekaar tussen die twee skole.
@Tjoppa: Just a question, cosYcos I could give a rats backside about the rankings (won’t repeat my reasons, Beet will toss his cookies if I do it yet again), but if College can draw with Noordkaap, beat Grey High and lose by a last minute penalty to PBHS, how can they not be in your top 30?
It’s a rhetorical question really, given my lack of regard for the rankings, except in KZN where we at least play each other, twice in the case of Glenwood, so can rank via a points system which has some validity. But to be right up there with Number 10 and not crack the Top30 seems bizzare. Add to that beating Diamantvelt last year, loss by 1 to each of Paul Roos and Grey PE, beat PBHS in PMB and lost by 1 or 2 in Pretoria …..
@Tjoppa: Clearly, you are confused and it shows
@Grasshopper: Very insightful read. Maybe your current administration should read this again, instead of veering from a successful recipe? While they are at it, maybe the imports should learn this by hearts before being accepted!
@Tjoppa: Ai Tjoppa, ek verberg my bittere teleurstelling moeilik, maar ‘n man mag hoop. In werklikheid, soos my jongste sou se (Woltril seker ook), almost unpossible, Pappa!
@Grasshopper: Agree with all you said, twice in one day, and maybe that explains the ominous clouds over the Mother City. Unfortunately many schools now use the various T20’s as a media tool to attract learners and it is a fact that success attracts the best. If you regularly finish outside the T20, irrespective of the opposition strength, you will eventually lose and leak the top players to others, so in your case I would advise to box more clever. Recruit only gr. 8-10, plan your fixtures, amount and opponents, better and gun for those fixtures that accommodate all your boys. This obviously does not apply to the traditional powerhouses, they attract the best and stay at the top due to decades of success.
@Ploegskaar: Go Boland Landbou
@BOG: You mean no force, brutal opression, intimidation nor help from Grey Old Boys. Nah you must be referring to your balet school.
@Ploegskaar: Check out the article I wrote back in Nov 2011 about Glenwood rugby; http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2011/11/18/the-green-machine%E2%80%99s-rapid-rise-to-rugby-power-since-2000/
@Ploegskaar: hahaha, love it! Glenwood were always a top50 side at best through most of last century, but in 1999/2000 they then decided to make sport semi-professional, put proper structures in place with an outside coach, proper trainers, physio’s etc and suddenly results got better. When results got better we started to attract better players at grade 8 level and suddenly we had a snow ball effect. A few crucial wins against the big guns in Affies home and away, Boland Landbou, KES, Monnas, Grey Bloem, Bishops, PBHS and Waterkloof and suddenly the Glenwood name became known across the country. We even ranked 2nd in the Rugby365 rankings in one year. From there our A teams became competitive at the highest level and the depth improved. Annual fixtures with Affies and Grey Bloem were put in place and we have not looked back. Playing the best certainly improves your own game and we are a prime example of this. However, what has been a concern for me is the number of fixtures and trying to hard to get recognition Glenwood have over committed, playing 23 games a season with more than half of those being against top30 schools. We have not given our teams a chance to show what they can do. Also, trying to keep this level the coaches and management have started to look outside of our own circle to improve depth. I think this is the wrong strategy and this has shown in two very mediocre seasons in 2011/2012 followed by this year. The teams at age group level have done very well but suddenly new faces are introduced and they harmony is effected. Schools like Boland Landbou do well because the boys are real good friends and know each other well, they also know that if they work and play hard they will play 1st team. At Glenwood now there is always a threat of an import coming in to take away a hard earned place. Therefore, for me Glenwood need to trust the current group of players, reduce the fixture load and results will fall into place. Our Under14,15 and 16A’s sides are all in the top20 currently so we just need to stick with them and we will have good seasons for the near future. Rankings are just an indicator and schools should not work towards a ranking but more towards a style of play. We all know who the perennial top 10 will be, a few names can be thrown into the hat every year, Grey Bloem, Paarl Boys, Paarl Gim, Affies, Waterkloof, Monnas, Bishops, Paul Roos and Grey PE. We are just happy that Glenwood is being recognised as a rugby school and can actually compete with these great rugby schools. Garsies is a very similar case to Glenwood just started a few years ago…….
@Grasshopper: Agreed, if you don’t aspire to be top5, but want to be somewhere between 6-15, you prepare well and play a couple of T20-40 teams in full warm-ups pre-Easter (plan them on BHP’s point weight categories), attend one of the Saint’s Festivals, hopefully do a 1 from 2 at WK and make share that you hammer a few in your local league (especially target the 1 or 2 in higher categories). You would have played a reasonable 15-17 games at the end of the season, maybe have lost 2-3, not exerted yourself too much and secured a commendable ranking. Blueprint for mediocrity!
@BoishaaiPa: @Woltrui: Soos BHP sê, die ranglysgewig van die Kaapse spanne sal weldra die Kaapse spanne wat ‘n goeie seisoen beleef laat opskuif en die spanne van elders laat afskuif. Gegrond op uitslae tot hede, dink ek egter die T15 sal deurlopend min of meer dieselfde spanne hê hierdie jaar, in verskillende posisies, met die meeste aksie van 16 – 20 en net buite die T20. Slegs ‘n wonderbaarlike poging sal ‘n span tans buite die T20 in die T10 of selfs T15 inkry. So ‘n span sal amper al sy oorblywende wedstryde in die “Kaapse Liga” moet wen, asook sy 2 by WK en 3 by die Kaapse Skole Week. Sou dit nou nie merkwaardig wees nie…. LW, hierdie is net my opinie.
@BoishaaiPa: HTS Middelburg sal teen Monnas, Kloof, EG Jansen en Garsies te staan kom in of die Beeld of die Nu Power reeks. Dieselfde geld vir die ander genoemde Noordvaal skole. Ek sien egter jou punt BoishaaiPa. Hulle sal nie gemeet word teen die werklike groot kanonne (Grey Bloem, 2 Paarl skole en Affies) nie. My persoonlike opinie is dat bogenoemde skole egter hierdie jaar die top 10 gaan wees.
@BoishaaiPa: Agree with you here, Noord Kaap is another who beats one or two top sides and that it. They need to play top opposition regularly to be in the top 10, same with KES and other ‘pretenders’. Glenwood is playing the best but losing so they are rightfully out of the top 20. However, I’m sure they could beat a few of them ahead in the rankings if they played. So really some of the ‘pretenders’ just play easy opposition, win the games and then claim unbeaten seasons hence must be top 20, not by my books. Woltrui’s top 10 will be close to the final one, unless Glenwood can shock either Booishaai, Monnas, Affies or Grey Bloem later in the year, but sadly our team is a little too inexperienced this year methinks…If we played EG Jansen that would be a close one….
@Woltrui: Enigste probleem daar is dat jy nie Top 10 kan wees as jy slegs 1 ander Top 10 span speel nie…Garsies het bv klaar teen Nelspruit verloor…Teen wie speel hulle nog?…Wie speel EG Jansen en HTS Middelburg nog verder vanjaar?..HJS speel bv 6 van daai spanne..Grey speel 3 spanne…Outeniqua speel 4 of 5….Gim speel 4…Jy moet darem jouself teen die beste meet om bo uit te kom.
Rol nou mosbolle hier. Na al die spanne 5 + wedstryde agterblad het vermoed ek die 2013 finale top 10 gaan as volg daar uitsien:
1. Outenikwa
2. Grey Bloem
3. Paarl Gim
4. Kloof
5. Affies
6. EG Jansen
7. Garsies
8. Monnas
9. HTS Middelburg
10. Paarl Bois High
Bois High het baie talent en sal terugkom na 2 loesings teen top oposisie.
Affies se weg wedstryde teen Grey Bloem en Outenikwa gaan ‘n brug te ver wees.
EG en Garsies gaan sake vermoedelik uitspook om die Beeld trofee.
As Outenikwa Gim wen sal hul die jaar onoorwonne afsluit.
@Tjoppa: As I “understand” it, Mugabe has retained power by force- deceit, brutal oppression, corruption, theft, murder, intimidation and material help from the regime in SA. GCB again, achieved it with skill. Do you see the difference? If not, ask Wolboude to explain that to you.
Ploegskaar moet se vir my maak die “Ploeg special Top 20” op die stadium van die geveg die meeste sin.
@Tjoppa: Ploeg special.
@Ploegskaar: Myne Rugby15 wie is joune
@BOG: In other word if I understand you correctly Robert Mugabe is the best president because he held the position the longest.
@Tjoppa: Of:
1 Hoerskool Outeniqua (Kwaggas)
2 Paarl Gimnasium
3 Afrikaans Hoer Seunskool Pta (Affies)
4 Hoerskool Waterkloof (Klofies)
5 Hoerskool Monument (Monnas)
6 Grey College
7 Hoerskool Dr EG Jansen (Jansies)
8 Hoerskool Garsfontein (Garsies)
9 Hoerskool Nelspruit (Nelies)
10 HTS Drostdy
11 Hoer Landbouskool Oakdale
12 Wynberg Boys’ High
13 Kearsney College
14 Rondebosch Boys’ High School
15 HTS Middelburg (RooiBulle)
16 Paarl Boys High School (Boishaai)
17 Pretoria Boys’ High School
18 Hoerskool Centurion
19 Hoerskool Noord-Kaap
20 St Andrews College (SAC)
@Tjoppa: Why did you not answer your own question in the beginning? Did your memory fail you? Perhaps the fact that they were ranked or otherwise regarded to be the the best in SA for eight out of ten years?? Is that not convincing enough?
First one for the week. Why does every wannabe ranking official/statician have a love affair with Grey Bloem?
1 Afrikaans Hoer Seunskool Pta (Affies)
2 Hoërskool Outeniqua (Kwaggas)
3 Paarl Gimnasium
4 Grey College
5 Hoërskool Monument (Monnas)
6 Hoërskool Waterkloof (Klofies)
7 Hoërskool Garsfontein (Garsies)
8 Hoërskool Nelspruit (Nelies)
9 Hoërskool Dr EG Jansen (Jansies)
10 Hoerskool Noord-Kaap
11 Paarl Boys High School (Boishaai)
12 St Andrews College (SAC)
13 Kearsney College
14 HTS Middelburg (RooiBulle)
15 Hoër Landbouskool Oakdale
16 Paul Roos Gymnasium
17 Wynberg Boys’ High
18 Rondebosch Boys’ High School
19 Pretoria Boys’ High School
20 Hoërskool Centurion
21 Grey High School (PE)
22 King Edward VII School (KES)
23 HTS Drostdy
24 SACS
25 Hoërskool Transvalia
26 St Albans College
27 Hoërskool Diamantveld
28 Hoërskool Die Brandwag (Uitenhage)
29 Nico Malan High School
30 Queens College
@rugbyfan: Apparently because of too many injuries. Does not seem to be the real story. Hope to get more info.
@Amalekite: Fantastic. Wouldn’t it be great if it was like this every weekend?
Westville vs Pretoria Boys this weekend:
25 rugby fixtures and 13 hockey fixtures.
I see Noordkaap withdrew from there game against Duineveld wonder what happened as they had previously withdrawn from there fixture with Queens on this weekend claiming they were forced to play Duineveld.
Very strange wonder if anybody has info on this.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: I reckon DHS put out max 18 teams, still 7 short of a decent fixture day…
@Grasshopper:
Ya boet, been too long
@GreenBlooded:
Look, what I’m saying is that some people should stop demanding fixture changes that are obvoiously stretching things quite far. I firmly believe that these fixtures are here for depth purposes and also recharging. Glenwood has a pretty demanding Easter programme so it wouldn’t make sense to play all these hard teams righht after.
@Westers:
I’m sorry but I have no clue. Will see when the fixture list vs College is posted on the site later this week
@BoishaaiPa: Daai skooltjie is kookwater, vra vir Gim waneer laas het hulle ‘n inter-skole netbal game gewen
Ek sien Stellenberg se Premier meisies hokkiespan het nogal tydens die Paastyd Gim se Premier hokkiespan geklop op Stellenberg se nuwe Astro in die finaal van hulle Paastoernooi. As ek so na hulle netbal en hokkie kyk, bly daar darem so ‘n paar girls in die area agter, maar die rugbyspelers gaan duidelik almal Paarl en Stellenbosch toe 
Saterdag gaan ek Plaas toe jong, Landbou speel teen Wynberg, mag dalk net my hele naweek bederf, maar wie weet, dalk sit hulle ‘n glimlag terug op my gesig. Neem aan jy gaan na die netbal Bishops toe?
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Sorry, froup = group.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: How many teams are DHS fielding in each age froup this year?
@Ploegskaar: Net so ter inligitng vir jou want ek weet jy sal belangstel..HMS 1ste span klop Outeniqua 56-13 in Netbal!…HMS se o/17A’s wen 25-8. Dis nie sleg vir n skooltjie met 300 meisies teenoor 900 meisies nie!..Komende Saterdag speel hulle Stellenberg…Sal jou dalk daar langs die bane raakloop…myne speel o/17A op die oomblik…
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Horsey – there is no sense in playing a fixture year in and year out when the result looks like a good first wicket partnership. It might be fun for the team that wins, but they certainly don’t learn anything. Neither does the team that lose except maybe perfecting their restart kick and charging down conversions. It does them the world of damage. Please tell me WHAT POSITIVE ASPECT will come out of a Glenwood 1st vs Pinetown 1st match next season??? I’d love to know. Continue to play your traditional opponents by all means but be sensible about it and stagger the games appropriately.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: The Horse is alive with a timely dig at Glenwood to boot
@Gungets Tuft:
I’m glad to hear that about the College boys and what they think of School. Still trying to worm my way out of what I have to do on Saturday so I can enjoy the games at College!
Haven’t been there in a while!
To those of you wanting to drop fixtures, I see you’ve completely ignored Cindy’s very relevant comments. It costs load of money for these to happen. Money from the parents. Although these fixtures sound very nice they just aren’t really currently possible.
I’m also bemused at how some people who haven’t been in KZN for a while can claim that ‘this is why boys stop playing’k or ‘the boys aren’t into these games’ etc.
Boys have muchh respect for theirr opposition as they are taught. If they don’t then they clearly aren’t taught well by their schools. By some of your logic then ‘super’ schools should even drop DHS?!?! How does that impact the two schools involved? Bad things! Stop calling for a change of fixtures and leave it to those in charge.
Eish, these boys choose to go to the school that plays 22 games in a season and plays the odd easy game and 10 top 20 games. Its their choice! They don’t want easier games if they did they would be elsewhere!
@Ploegskaar: Last time our 1st XV beat you was Paul Delport’s side in 2002. Boland Landbou, to me, is probably one of the best boys school’s in the country for future farmers – every time I go there I just stand and admire the whole campus. Whenever they play the “big 3” Paarl/Stellenbosch sides I try to make the trip because they always give 150%! Good luck to them for the rest of the year.
@BOG: Kokstad to Port Shepstone – but I know what you mean. Worse the closer you get to Sheppie as you now have to deal with all the drunken organ-donors as well.
Agree with comments on Glenwood playing at Voortrekker – to me this shows the demise of Pietemaritburg in general – all the games were very staggered except for the 1sts when GWD played 1st Pinetown in their new kit – PTN put up more of a fight than the scoreline 82 – 0 shows – the game ended under lights – close to 7PM
The lightie plays semi social rugby , 5ths – 8ths at GWD and has never scored a try for GWD but he scored 2 tries against his school on Sat when he played for another team that were short of players on the day – such was the spirit on the day
an enjoyable day at Voories – enjoyed the humbleness and the vibe – reminds of the nite series at Porties – not so good seeing the cricket scores though
@Gungets Tuft: Well, you have just confirmed what I have tried to say. It would make no sense in cancelling the encounter in Bloem because of bad road conditions and then engaging other in other encounters which will take them through the Transkei. I certainly agree with you. In fact I think that it is generally even worse than the picture you painted. The most dangerous section of road in SA is the N 2- Kokstad to KWT and the second most dangerous, also the N2- Kokstad to Scotburgh.
@BOG: Not me but I haven’t driven the road in years. I had a son and a few sons of good friends on the buses on Friday and Saturday, and even on the N3 I did not have a quiet head until I knew they had arrived in Pretoria and then back in the Burru. It’s not just the state of the roads, its the manners of the locals. The Transkei, via either route, is inhabited by morons with no regard for their own lives or the lives of others. You never relax due to mad overtaking, okes on the wrong side of the road and all the 4-legged potential biltong strolling around. I would have to trust the buses on the way down but would fly my son home from the EC.
@TJ: Someone, perhaps Gungets, mentioned that the reason for suspending the interschools between GCB and MC, is the condition of the FS roads. As everywhere, the condition of the roads are not good, but fantastic when compared with the general condition of the roads in the Transkei. Occasionally, there might be an improvement, but generally— I assure you that the road Mt Fletcher/Maclear will be unrecognizable in 6 months time without maintenance.
@TJ: I drove both the Mthatha and the Quesnstown-Mt Fletcher road in February.
Mthata road is broken. Roads Agency dropped it on it’s head and it is permanently broken. 13 hours to Grahamstown – I will need a whole posse of devout nuns to swear on the collective popes graves that it is fixed before I ever venture back.
McLear is a decent road but it is also 11 hours to Grahamstown BY CAR. Add at least 2 hours by bus because of the twist and turn road. Add another hour to PE – 14 hours at least by bus. East London probably 2 hours less than that, other okes can add detail to that, haven’t driven that stretch for a while.
Navigating towns like Lady Frere on a Friday .. not for me thanks. If some of those towns were horses they would have turned them into Checkers Champion Boerewors long ago (the only issue would be finding enough water buffalo to make up the bulk – plensch goat and galubi daarso …).
My opinion – the EC/Border only becomes viable for a tournament and then just a few teams. Never a 600 boy convoy.
@GreenBlooded: With you 100% on the toxic thing. If talking about schools like Northwood, I reckon College should give them the chance to play. It has been pointed out that 25 years ago there was a chance that all KZN schools might be regarded as “toxic” due to College giving them a cross-the-board klap. Times change, Northwood and DHS will be back and much, much quicker than most commentators believe.
Speak to the boys, there is no lack of respect from them for Northwood or DHS. In fact, the DHS fixture is one of the most valued by the boys – hell, they play for a trophy that is nearly 100 years old – The Skonk Trophy – donated by DHS shortly after Skonkwaan’s death. Plenty emotion there …
@Amalekite: I’m surprised that the games are allowed to get to those scores and not blown short. No learning experience for anyone there. But we will have this conversation again next season…………
@CyndiAtRugby: In a nutshell, when one team beats another by over 50 points, neither really benefits. The Westville game was blown early because of this. The boys do not enjoy playing a shortened game.
I find it hard to believe that the Pinetown boys in the team that got hammered by 80 points found it enjoyable, especially in front of their school. It is not all about winning, but I think that it is necessary for any team to head into a match by having some kind of hope that they could win. In both these cases there was no hope from the start.
If they are desperate to play against the Tier 1 schools, than let them play against the stronger school’s 2nd or 3rd team, not the 1sts.
The fact that College has stopped playing Grey Bloem, proves my point. It was a wise decision.
Glenwood vs Westville needs to be reinstated asap.
@TJ: You should then identify the rivals you regard as Toxic and drop your fixtures with them. I certainly would not want my boy running onto a field to play against boys who regarded his school as ‘toxic’. So you either play them as friends and afford them the respect they deserve or you do not play them.
ps we almost dropped one those schools last year because of their toxicity
Evidently you guys haven’t sampled the delights of the Mount Fletcher Maclear road lately. Hardly any traffic and smooth newly laid tarmac.
@Star A close relationship is having the same ethos and set of values, something College shares with schools such as Affies, PBHS, KES which is why we have exchanges with these schools. Exchanges with schools from the Border would be feasible as they are of a similar ilk to us, offer a large number of fixtures and are of the same quality as us. Toxic in the sense there is always animosity, and a large dollop of skulduggery taking place off the field.
@star: I think ‘toxic’ means diluted, maybe I am wrong. So playing all the smaller schools are staggers where one needs to be a rocket scientist to work out who is who in the zoo. The toxic bit is when you have a 2nd’s playing an Under16B or something like that. College playing Linpark, Alex etc is just not working…..same for Glenwood and Westville on these mish mash fixture days….
By latter I meant latter 2 – DHS & Northwood.
@GreenBlooded: If you refer one of Gungets Tufts earlier posts, it costs a KZN school R350,000 to send teams to Gauteng. IMHO one home and one away each year would suffice. Especially if College, Glenwood and Westville had home and away fixtures each season. That would be 8 top fixtures. Add fixtures against Kearsney, Michaelhouse, Hilton, DHS and Northwood (hopefully the latter improve their strength AND depth) and you have 13 decent fixtures a season – before you even take festivals into account.
As an aside, I think adding College to the Kearsney festival would be a great idea. Having four KZN schools would generate even more support at the festival.
@star: A joke as in ‘not a clever comment’ – not as in TJ was pulling your leg.
@ Greenblooded- Please refer to the comment by TJ regarding dropping some of College’s ” more toxic fixtures in Natal.” Did I not read it correctly and if so can I not ask the question.I am not sure how that constitutes a joke.
@star: You got my point exactly.
@star: That is a joke – I’m very much doubt that College regards any of their KZN rivals as “toxic”.
I think 2 outbound and 2 inbound tours a season are quite enough in terms of logistics and cost. The reality is that the Gauteng schools are the most practical from a cost and logistics point of view. Tours to EC and WC schools while most desirable are simply not practical at this stage.
@ TJ- I think what Westers was talking about was the practicalties/costs/safety of travelling like a band of gypsies around the country. We had first hand experience of the roads in the EC and surely it would be better to have a full set of competitive fixtures 45 minutes down the road. The suggestion is to drop one of the return fixtures and not the school itself. You refer to ” such a close relationship”. I would be interested to know what qualifies as well as being” like minded” and ” toxic”.
@Grasshopper: Glenwood plays a combination of George Campbell and Port Natal later on in the season. In all honesty the score board wasn’t always representative of the game. I was impressed with Pinetown’s tenacity and attitude – there are some good skills and are a very different team from last year.
@Amalekite: @GreenBlooded: I think you should ask the boys whether it was a waste of a weekend. From what I heard, most enjoyed the day as a learning experience and a means to solidify the teachings from the coaches. The opposition schools were thrilled to play against Glenwood and one of the coaches said it was the game his team was most looking forward to. Well done to Voortrekker on possibly the best Boksmart laid out fields I have ever seen including constant monitoring on the main field. There is still work to be done but it was commendable. Hopefully they will also start monitoring the B & C fields in future too.
In terms of Glenwood playing teams from other regions – while the idea is great, please tell me, where are the funds going to come from? Remember that these out of province tours cost in academic time and in money from the parents.
@GreenBlooded: I have done the trip too, no chance! It’s a frikken nightmare and I was in a 4×4. Unfortunately until there is a proper 2 to 3 lane highway down south it’s far too dangerous…..oh well!
@QC86: 3 hours by car = 5 hours by bus. Which way would that be – through the Kei? I’d have a major concern about the roads/security situation. Gungets – you have made the trip recently – what are your thoughts on a 14 bus convoy of College boys heading through the Transkei?
@Grasshopper: extra 3 hours drive to PE is a killer,and Selborne could put together 18 teams
Maritizburg College vs Grey PE and Glenwood vs Grey PE would be better fixtures as they have similar number of teams. No disrespect the EC College’s but they just do not have the depth due to smaller numbers…
Well the time it takes for us to get to PTA is roughly the same as driving to East London so i don’t see a problem. We need to be playing more sides from the Border that’s all.
@TJ: Maritzburg College v Selborne would be a fantastic fixture
@Westers Stop living in a dream world. We would never drop a fixture with a school with which we have such a close relationship with. The thought of Glenwood having that much pull at College is laughable. A more rounded set of fixtures for College is for us to play more like minded schools such as Grey PE, Queens and Selborne and drop some of our more toxic fixtures in Natal.
@QC86: They had 2 draws and a win at the Outeniqua week, so maybe not as strong this year. Playing away from home or against a perceived top side in the WC is also quite tough (home ground and status always worth 5-10 points against you even before running on). SACS always have talented youngsters though, so must have had a good intake.
@Ploegskaar:thanx ploeg, Bolands u14a loss margin i find surprising,whats going on?
@QC86: As you always keep an eye on the age group results, here are a few from the weekend:
BL vs SACS
U/14A lost 14-32
U15A won 24-12
U/16A won 20-0
Stellenberg vs Drostdy:
U14A won 17-15
U15A lost (don’t know score, scrappy match so I went to watch the seccies, who drew 7-7)
U16A won 10-5
Bellville U16A vs Brackenfell U/16A (the latter a Paarl Gim U16 week invitee):
Bellville won 26-3
@BoishaaiPa: score is correct,Davy and i were at he game,Dales new coach has left and you could see it,no structure to their game,Dale closed the score line near the end as Grens stoped playing,Dales u16’s won 21 7
@Grasshopper: He is a hard as nails boertjie from Villiersdorp…His teamates at u/15 level use to joke that he use to injur 3 of his teamates just during the warmups swinging his arms around!..
@Playa..Is that Grens vs Dale score correct?..That must have been an upset.
@jakes: Another good result from EG Jansen. They are having a great season so far.
@BoishaaiPa: wow, so he is only in grade 11! If he can stay injury free and get some experience playing 1st and 2nds this year he will be immense in 2014. Wish I was going to Wildeklawer now to watch the Boishaai vs Glenwood match now….
Beet, I think that Klofie Pa can once again confirm, even after a few matches on this occasion, that there is more than one school in Bloemfontein which can play rugby.
@Grasshopper: No 18 was Le Roux Roets who started his 1st game for the 1st team. Dont know why he had the No18 jersey on though. I think they shuffled the pack a bit to give it more weight aganst the enormous kwaggas pack, The usual 1st team lock Matthew le Roux played 7 yesterday with the 7 flank CJ du Toit moving to 8th man. Du toit is in Gr11. The hooker is Daniel du Plessis (No relation to the famous Du Plessis’s). KofiePa mentioned him in the game against Waterkloof.
@Amalekite: yep, heard the midlands mist clouds the ref’s up there brains a bit. They tend to blow in favour of the local side. Glenwood are going to need to be on their A game in Balgowan on sat. Go Green!
@Ploegskaar: Ons was gelukkig om nie te hoef krieket speel om fiks te bly nie ek was in co-ed skool. Tweeslagtig as ek dit reg het.
@Grasshopper: Problem with House and Hilton, is those Midlands refs that are on another planet. Their decisions are mysterious most of the time, and don’t bother asking for an explanation coz you might get a yellow
@Tjoppa: Laat ons net se my on-PC opinie van hokkie, basketbal, skaak en onder tydverwyle is welbekend en Holwol is bekend daarmee. Die enigste ander erkende sport naas rugby is krieket en selfs dit was net iets wat jou fiks en besig moes hou voor die rugby seisoen. So was dit in my dae, in vervloee dae.
@Woltrui: jeez a blonde mfazi means Beet got serious!
@Woltrui: sorry boet my Afrikaans is baie kak so I understand. Just remember you can never win a team only beat them but you can win a game. I know what you meant.
@Grasshopper: Mr Beet wasn’t very middle of the road at the Kearsney beer tent? Some bloggers even mentioned a blond mfazi?
@Grasshopper: Beat or win? Flippit. Is it not the same? A former SA Prime minister of dutch origin
once said the following. Since I don’t know the differance between “is” and “are” I will only use “is”. I’m going to be right 50% of the time. I’m doing my best with a difficult language Mr Hopper.
@Ploegskaar:
@Woltrui: I don’t think Beet laughed he is very middle road. We all said Glenwood would battle against a very strong and experienced Garsies side. Glad the Glenwood 2nds turned the tables on Garsies and beat their 2nds…
@Woltrui: do you mean beat Glenwood? We all knew Garsies would be good this year they have been building up to it. I reckon Garsies would beat both KES and PBHS with ease….
@Grasshopper: Mr Beet also laughed when I predicted that Garsies would win Glenwood by 15. 8)
@Woltrui: haha!
@Tandem: Sent your E F G H teams to KZN thier top teams are hungry for opposition.
@Grasshopper: Kearsney can be lucky they are not playing Pretoria Boys High.
@Ploegskaar: Ek hou meer en meer van jou maar pasop ou Wolhol gaan jou net nou as verkramp uitkryt. Ek se dit is die mannetjies wat blinkertjies op hul onderbroeke vaswerk. Maar kom ons sit hulle nie in ‘n hokkie nie.
@Ploegskaar:
Leka af ie plaas.
@Woltrui: arg, think boet. Remove your top 2 English schools in KES and PBHS then you wouldn’t win a game. The gopher cup excludes two of KZN’s strongest in Glenwood and Kearsney, especially Kearsney….
@Grasshopper: I beg to differ Mr Hopper. The Gopher cup scoreboard says 4 zilch for the Valies.
@CapeMan: of course we have hokkie, in fact there are quite a few, there are hokkies for the pigs, hokkies for the chickens…….
@Grasshopper: Although it appears that there will be no fixture this season between Glenwood and Westville, I hope the powers that be organise filler fixtures for the lower teams against each other, rather than have byes when playing weaker opposition. It would also help with getting the current situation back to normal between the two schools.
@GreenBlooded: Thanks. Looking at the results that Gungets posted above PBHS only won the 1st team game and lost all age groups A & B teams. Hopefully home ground advantage gives the WBHS 1sts an edge.
You guys have Michaelhouse this week. This should give us some decent insight into their strength this season. Good Luck.
@Westers: Agreed mate! Glenwood used to play an annual fixture against St Stithians but it got a bit one sided down the line so it was stopped. I think Westville had the same with Parktown. So all this bravado from the Gauteng schools is rubbish. KES and PBHS are consistently good annually but the others up there are hit and miss. Kearsney, Westville, College, Glenwood and Michaelhouse as a group are in my opinion stronger than KES, PBHS, Jeppe, St Stithians and Parktown as a group, the rankings would indicate that…
@Grasshopper: The problem is KES already play College and Westville each year and I don’t think they want a third distance fixture. Pretoria BHS play College home and away each year. Glenwood need to get College to make this a once a year fixture. College could replace this with a return fixture against Westville each year so no loss of games for thw whole school. A home and away fixture between Glenwood and Westville would then make the fixtures more rounded IMO.
@GreenBlooded: agreed, but one can always dream! I would be happy to start up another JHB fixture, maybe Jeppe as it seems KES are not interested…..
@Grasshopper: I think a full tour to/from the Cape would be logistically and financially impossible unfortunately……
@GreenBlooded: yes, good luck to Westville against PBHS. I think they are the biggest all boys school in SA with 1600 boys, they should have a very good side and plenty of depth…
@Westers: BTW – Good luck against PBHS. Top drawer institution – was there for the day yesterday and was knocked out of my socks. The 1st team are very well drilled and the backline is dangerous when they decide to run. Had College on the ropes for most of the game but they fought back well to almost win.
Meant dumb not doubt…doh!
@GreenBlooded: yep, as I have said thousands of times and forgive me saying it again, we need to be playing Grey PE, PBHS, KES, Wynberg, Rondebosch, Paarl Boys or any school that can put out 20 plus teams. We added Monnas this year which only helps the A,B and C teams, doubt move again! Oh well we just going to have to wait for a change in management to get a change in attitude…
@Westers: Is that just plain STOOOOOOPID!!!???? Half the teams don’t play and the ones that do are a waste of time. Helloooooooo…… can we find a person each from Westville and Glenwood with a big brain and a small ego???
@Grasshopper: I think we both said the same thing last year. What a waste of a weekend playing those games. When will they listen…….
@Grasshopper: Boishaai have lots of teams but not enough opponents . 0/14A- E , o/15 A-E , o/16 A- E ,0/19 A- H .
@Ploegskaar: your description about sacs and boland is spot on as I also mentioned above but Boland dont play hockey so their little numbers do all go to rugby predominantly and everyone is a boarder which helps tremendously.
Wow, thanks Tjoppa for the update. Another massive score by EG Jansen against a good rugby school. Their team brilliant this year
@jakes: As ek reg onthou het EG Florida geslag.62 -3. Lyk my julle manne is ernstig.
What ever happened to the EG Jansen and Florida game in the nu power series that was postponed due to rain? Does anyone know?
@Grasshopper: Westville play Pretoria BHS on Bowdens next week. At last all teams get to play.
Yesterday was a complete farce against Empangeni/Richards Bay and supports the call for these fixtures to be scrapped. Glenwood yesterday would have been better for both schools.
Westville 1st played a 25 minute first half and a 20 minute second half. They must have scored three tries in the last 10 minutes and were just building a head of steam when the game was blown for full time.
On top of that, only half of Westvilles teams got a game yesterday.
@Tjoppa: Agreed, and that explains my passionate support and severe disappointment when they lose, like they did yesterday….. Now for a blaaskansie for a few days, and will be up for it again later in the week
@Ploegskaar: I just hope that handy cap does not involve alcohol. Or did you perhaps mean handicap. I on the other hand see BL situation as an advantage. Can you imagine the brotherhood and friendship that exists in that school and team. Few other schools have that. A important brick in building character. Don’t you think.
@sacssupporter: SACS has never been a pushover and likewise Landbou has never been considered a powerhouse, just ask their 2 Paarl neighbors. Your record against them is rather a reflection on a lack of guts and heart in the past, as you have never been short on talent. With 350 boys BL is always the underdog in any game, but that’s why I support them, they start every Saturday with a handy cap and I hope their boys take note how much a win against them means, at any cost….. Also hope those relevant parties involved in future take note…….
@Woltrui: Was dit nie vreemd nie. Maar die gebrek aan basiese spelpatroon tot met 4des dieselfde. Nie een voorspelers het eers sy basics gedoen nie. Soos jy se almal speel vir die tv rugby en die SBW passes hoog mode. Nee ek dink hier kom moeiliheid as die groot spanne gespeel word. As ek ‘n coach was sou ek hulle hard voor aanvat en sodoende die gevaarlike agterlyn doodwurg.
@sacssupporter: I heard so from twitter updates. Apparantly Boland had a 5m scrum in the last minute. Very proud of the young boys as Boland have been a boogey side for us. Let me say this, against Boland it is usually even in terms of the wins and losses because they dont have much depth due to their numbers but their A&B teams are always high quality.
@Rhino: Hmmm, Michaelhouse and Hilton are always an enigma, they seem to float under the radar as their seasons are so short. They seem to prepare quietly and then pounce on the bigger schools when they are whacked out from a hectic schedule. We just beat them last year and the Midlands is a hard place to win. The Michaelhouse front row is strong so who knows. Michaelhouse has been the thorn in our sides for many years so the boys must prepare well. Hopefully there were no injuries this weekend vs Pinetown. Who do Westville have next?
@CapeMan: What a great defensive effort from the SACS guys – they defended on their line for the last six minutes against a highly motivated, much bigger Landbou team. It was a very exciting finish to a great game, played in a great spirit – what pleased me is that the SACS boys produced good results through all teams – no longer the “push-over” school for the Paarl/Stellenbosch power-houses.
@Tjoppa: Ongelooflike talent in span. Leemte in die basiese beginsels. Ontvang van afskoppe. Almal wil balle met hande uitgestrek en weg van lyf vang. Agterspelers wat balle in duikslae verloor.
Francois Steyn sal moet wikkel. Paar goeie hakers wat druk vir CW plek.
@ Grasshopper
You will beat Michaelhouse i think………….
I would like see the big games u talk of in the Cape. Such cool vibe is my best. Watching Westville on Bowdens v GW or College etc is just awesome. Waxys for a pint or 2 then the match… seeing old friends from school etc… just cool. U will beat MH by 12. IMO.
@Ploegskaar: Just checked the last time we played BL was in 2005 and we won 29-10.
@ILUSTRA: Which kid? The giant Boishaai lock/slot?
Not sure if Free State results are permitted here, but here are two, anyway:
GCB vs Jim Fouche 62 – 10 Cherries vs Fichardt Park (1st) 52 – 0
@Grasshopper: Dit is die seun wat van Garsfontein kom met hoë verwagtinge
@Amalekite: Although Affies disappointed in 88 – 9 Victory do not think a no 1 team. Also do not forget Waterkloof. It is still a long season.
@Ploegskaar: I’ll try if the wife allows me! Not sure if it will be that easy for Glenwood vs BL. You guys held Grey in the 2nd half at Kearsney. It all depends on the day. I think we have only played BL a couple of times in the past winning once….
@CapeMan: yep, looked everywhere for games, nothing. The lower fields were empty. Anyway, it was not a derby so can be expected. A few ex Boks wondering around though. Glenwood, Maritzburg College and Westville have put out 28 teams before. In sure at an absolute stretch they could even do 30! I have even heard of an Under 14 H team, but with Grey Bloem, Boishaai etc is quality not always quantity. It’s just awesome to have 500 or more boys playing on one day from each school. Real festivities and the 1st team watching and cheering on all the sides from the bottom up. In my day the 1st had to be there from 7am supporting the teams. As a little under13 in my day seeing the 1st team prop cheering you onto the pitch and from the sides was amazing!
Gesprek rakende toeskouer getalle by Skole Rugby wedstryde, het betrekking. Ongelukkig geen statistiek maar 2 wedstryde wat die rekord moet hou: 1. Nu power finaal in 2004? tussen Affies en Kloof. Francois Brummer Klofie 10 en Gerrit Van Velze Affies kaptein. LC de Villiers (Tuks) stadium. Al die Nu power spanne en hul ouers, vanoor Noordvaal, teenwoordig. Twee Pta spanne in finaal. Stadium sitplekke tjok n blok. Groot walle aan beide kante van die pale, vol. Weet ongelukkig nie hoeveel stadium huisves maar vermoed daar moes 20 000 plus mense wees (was ook n puik wedstryd).
Die jaar voor dit, in dieselfde kompetisie, het 2 Jhb spanne, te wete EG Jansen (Ludeke op 15) en Marais Viljoen, die finaal beslis. Vermoed die hele Oos Rand het die Tuks gronde die dag beset. Een van beste skoolwedstryde wat ek bevoorreg was om te sien.
@Grasshopper: @Ploegskaar: hahaha. We do like to enjoy our saturday afternoons in the Cape :mrgreen:.If I’m not mistaken, Paarl boys match Grey bloem for rugby teams so I should think Outenique didn’t have that much teams and because we have an early kick off in the Cape most of the teams play at the same time. The 1st game can be as early as 7:30am. Did you go down to the lower fields at Paarl? I’m sure you would have found the other games being played there. More often then not, all the WP premier schools can field e teams except Boland because of their numbers.
@Grasshopper: Head down the N1 towards Paarl, take the Wellington R44 turn-off. Take the turn-off just after Windmeul, there is a BL road sign, turn into the Farm a couple of K’ down. Should be a cracker, ‘Berg have a good side. Follow me on @Ploegskaar1 on twitter and will send you my cell no. Hope you can make it. GW will have too much at the back for BL, btw.
@CapeMan: What was also a little disappointing was that I did not see any of the lesser sides playing during the Under16 game. In KZN all the fields are alive with games all morning. Maybe the other games were played on the Friday, not sure OR maybe it’s because I am used to schools have 25 plus teams so there is plenty choice when you arrive. How many teams can boishaai put out?
@Ploegskaar: Glenwood play Boland Landbou at Wildeklawer on the 5th of May in Maritzburg, we could have quite a bit of support there. It will be a close one for sure. Glenwood lost to Drostdy but from feedback they gave the game away after being way ahead. Yes, the Drostdy backs were their achilles heal but the forwards were good. Glenwood will be kicking themselves for that defeat. First we have a very tough Michaelhouse game this weekend up in the Midlands and then Wildeklawer. Boishaai is our second game at Wildeklawer. That game if our forwards can get some sort of parity against a big Boishaai pack then our backs should have the upper hand against them. Mazibuko is the man in the pack to watch out for, our version of Schalk just everywhere. He is not big but jeez he can bring down any player. Hopefully our starting front row are available too as we will need their size. The Boishaai No8 vs our young No8 will also be intriguing…….lots of great games ahead. Where is the farm?
@CapeMan: We live in CT FFS! Still need to catch a surf, wine taste in Franschoek and catch dinner at Pigalle. Aah, the choices
@Grasshopper:
Yeah I think the Glenwood games weren’t meant for the A-sides but rather the lower sides whom won’t get many games. As you can see most lower sides had a good,challenging game which is good. Pity it wasn’t Westville but hey that’s the cards you were dealt. The A teams obviously shouldn’t have played, they shouldve let the B teams play those games like DHS did for their U15 side vs Portn Natal. We had our A side sit out and the B team play Porties in what turned out to be a good workout as DHS U15B won 26-0. Imagine what wouldve happened had it been the A side…
Looking forward to the College game this weekend, hoping I’ll make it there. There’ll be a couple of good games with the U14,U15 and U16A sides of almost equal strength
@Grasshopper: Yes, they play on the Farm later this year. I watched all the Drostdy Stellenberg games yesterday and and Stellenberg’s u/14a and u/16 beat them while the 2nds drew. Scores were level at HT and they only won it with 2 tries in the last 10 when S’Berg received a dubious yellow (one try was an intercept as well). Drostdy has a good pack, but nothing at the back. They will also be tough at home, but will struggle away and against a skilled back line. If you want to meet up coming Saturday, I will tweet you my cell.
@Tandem: Going to be a cracker. Home side advantage might just be the leveller for the Qwaggas. This game should most probably decide the fate of who is no. 1 in the country IMHO.
I haven’t seen Gim play this year but from all the match reports that I’ve read, it seems this is a typical top notch Gim side. Big, hard, fast, clean and very well coached. Come 2weeks time, I think Outenique will have their first loss. Grassy, I agree, a 3-3:30pm kick off is more intense then a 11am kick. Unfortunately in the Cape it was decided that an earlier kick off would accomodate the Senior rugby. In essence all the club rugby and WP rugby is played later. I’ve been to the EC derbies. The Queens derbies against Grey for me have been the best for me. The build up to that 3pm kick off was just amazing.
@Grasshopper: Agreed, Landbou has a huge pack, but like a American Muscle Car, they don’t seem able to translate that potential to perform on the day. I think they will have an average year, though at home but will struggle away. Please make an effort to come watch them on the Farm against Wynberg this Saturday, it’s almost more of a family outing than just rugby, I always take the wife and girls, and at least you can back me up here about the setting and atmosphere afterwards.
That was meant for Boishaaipa….sorry not myself haha!
@Grasshopper: do you know if Drostdy play Boland Landbou? That should be a cracker!
@Amalekite: agreed, what a travesty!
@Tandem: didn’t Kearsney beat Landbou quite easily? Not sure if Landbou is that strong this year….but well done to SACS, they did have home advantage though. Looking at the Outeniqua vs Boushaai scores it seems the kwaggas are an A team and 1st team school, their 2nds got pumped! Maybe because its co-ed but 800 boys is still quite a bit. Surprised to see the Boishaai under 16a’s lose though…
@Grasshopper: I agree that Gym will win against Kwaggas for exactly the same reasons you mentioned . They play in George in 2 weeks time .In the mean time well done to SACS winning against very strong Landbou side and Bishops for nearly beating Paul Roos . Wynberg also cooking again since last year so rugby in WC very
strong at the moment .
@Grasshopper: I agree with you. It does not benefit the school that is getting the hiding, nor the school that is handing it out. Westville were in a similar situation yesterday.
The sad reality is that it could and should have been Glenwood vs Westville and Empangeni vs Pinetown
@BoishaaiPa: The issue of derby and crowds is something you find all over the country not only in Cape Town or KZN go to a Brandwag vs Danail Pienaar game and you will find 10 000 people there you should know that. I remember years ago in Bloem when GCB vs Queens games there were at least 10 000 there as well even Union High vs Volkskool i think the whole of Graaf Renett pitches up.
@beet and boishaaipa, got a few pics from the day, nothing too exciting but are you thinking about hosting some pics on the site?
@BoishaaiPa: ah ok, so who is your no18 giant, your hooker and No8? The Boushaai teacher gave me the no18 name but said the poor kid is just back after missing all of last year with a serious knee injury. He really hit the rucks hard and cleared things out, your enforcer. Not a great jumper due to his size though…
Beet do you have the other results yet
@Grasshopper: There was a matchday program, It gets handed out early at the gates. I only arrived at 11:00 and it was all gone by then…
http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/sites/default/files/vs%20Voortrekker%2013%20April_0.pdf
Crazy games these! What is the point of the 1st and A teams playing? 80 odd points does no good to anyone, surely Glenwood would get more resistance from a Port Natal fixture or looking further afield…dumb!
@Tandem: agreed, I feel Paarl Gim could beat them. I watched Glenwood vs Paarl Gim at Kearsney, Gim were clinical against a pretty good Glenwood side. Their pack was superb and blonde centre made in roads on every carry. Schickerling the lock and their loose trio were the best at the tourno if not the best I have ever seen, big, powerful and skillful. I think if Gim can move the Kwaggas monster tight 5 around the park and run at their 2 over-sized props they will find holes. Also Human the fly half is amazing on attack but weak on defense due to his size, only 63kg! Gim no8 running at him will mean plenty of holes. The Gim blonde centre is a match for Gelant. Will be a great game, when are they playing? Gim by 10!
@Rhino: yeah, but and it’s a big but, inter schools or Paarl Gim vs Paarl Boys does get crowds of up to 25,000 in the Paarl stadium. It’s very much like an American football derby where the whole town shows its allegiance. DHS vs Glenwood could easily be the same if they decided to play it in a bigger ground but that would take away from the home advantage and playing on hallowed turf. There is something special about playing on a school ground knowing many others played on the same turf. Also the close proximity to the game allows you to feel every hit and tackle. The derbies here in the Southern suburbs of Cape Town are similar to Durban ones, maybe not as many people due to space and parking, it’s pretty tight in Wynberg and Rondebosch. With regards to UK schools I lived there too for 10 years up until Nov and could not find one game anywhere close to the atmosphere of an SA derby. Wellington College had some pretty good games…
@Grassopper/ general talk
Its true a big game in Durbs is massive….a GW/Westville game for instance is “sold out” in essence meaning if u try come watch after 3pm good luck you will probably park a couple miles away as its that packed( prob 10000 people ish) and the buzz is just awesome. Same for being at GW. So Grassy really hey not busy there in CT, im surpised……….. well good on us for showing and loving our schools…
I find this whole boom of schoolboy rugby fascinating as we are all so passionate for/with our schools and rightly so……. Im in the UK so wondering if there is something of the same here? anyone know?
Cheers
@Grasshopper: I really think Paarl Gym will be able to beat the
Kwaggas because of Gym’s brilliant loose trio .The
Gym coach Lotter probably tactically the best school team coach in SA. Gym’s nr 8 a real star .
For me Eduard Zandberg, Geor Malan, Lian van Schalkwyk, Dian Koen, Duhan Van de Merwe and Warwick Gelant will all be in the SA Schools reckoning. All game changes. For some reason there was no match day programme so I have no idea of the Boishaai players names. Their whole front row, lock and No 8 will hopefully make WP schools. A big clash will be the Boishaai no 8 vs Paarl Gim’s Rickus Bothma! Now he is a machine!
@Woltrui: Ek het deur die 1ste vier spanne se wedstryde gewurg en moet weereens se ek is teleur gesteld. No ses briljant met die sewe wat goeie voorgevoel gewys het. Verder niks. Rg en die senter sal seker Saterdag terug wees. Ek weet nie, maar die kwaliteit ontbreek. Waar soek ‘n mens die fout afrigting of talent? Maar ja uiters teleurgesteld.
@Woltrui: Ten minste een blerry Boys High wat hul ding gedoen het.
@Klofie Pa: Ja en weet jy wat , en ek is regtig jammer om dit te se, maar Affies het my nie beindruk nie. Maar miskien moet ‘n ou maar verwag dat wedstryde soos die geen konstruktiewe rugby gaan lewer nie. Nogtans ou Dok Craven het altyd gese dat ‘n goed afgerigte span behou struktuur te alle tye.
Maar my hart seerder oor wat by JV gebeur. Kan nie glo dat ‘n skool wat so lank onder een van die grotes in Gauteng getel het nie so drasties agteruit gaan nie. Om te verduidelik, die belangstelling is so swak dat ‘n seun wat laasjaar 0/16B reserwe was tans vir die 1stes bench. Toe ek vra of hy soveel verbeter het se die seuns “nee oom maar niemand wil meer jol nie”.
@BoishaaiPa: I would have tried to meet if I knew who you were or if you were going to be there. When you say clubhouse do u mean the pavilion on the one end of the ground?
@CapeMan: I have actually been to a few. Tossed the coin this morning between Wynberg vs Bosch or Boishaai vs Outeniqua, went with what I thought would be the higher quality and threw in a trip to Nederburg afterward. I’ll go to the inter schools this year. In KZN if we knew the no 1 or no 2 school in the country was in town there would be thousands watching, no parking etc. I drove in and got parking straight away, tons of it. Found it a little strange too that the schools is so far from the grounds. Was a good relaxing day out though, loved not having to fight crowds and being able to be so close to the action…
The WC derbies are epic. Outenique isn’t a derby game so you really can’t use that as a basis grassy. If you had gone to the Wynberg-bosch game or the bishops-paul roos game or the sacs-boland game, you would have seen some great gees. Don’t forget that we do have the biggest schoolboy derby in the world in paarl come august. In the cape, the stands are for the kids and old people as bhpa said. We had our turn and now its theirs. Until you’ve been to a real WC derby please don’t jump to conclusions.
@Rhino: Glenwood have had a teeny little upgrade thanks to the Ships Captain.
College has plans, need the wonga which is unfortunately not available, I guess we are not Old School enough
@ BoishaaiPa
I dont know the exact extent of ure conversation but what i am confused about is ure comment about ” we dont hav the old school money of kzn schools to have big stands and seating”………. sorry bro but what u on about ? Westville has the same blue wooden stands that they had back in my year of 1993 – i seen that the same ones are still there… im sure they get patched up and all and how they still are surviving is amazing. On the opposite is the usual concrete pavillion/stand which was there probably before i was born???? I would think its the same for Glenwood… as i have sat on their wooden stands until the main match which then we are asked to move across the field…so im confused ??
Congrats to the Kwaggas..they outplayed us in the backs and deserved the win. Galant was excellent in creating space and his offloading was superb. It was close until Kwaggas scored twice, then it was always an uphill battle for Boishaai. The Boishaai forwards was superb with 8th Man CF (Klaas) du Toit playing a huge game. The Kwaggas backs with Human, Galant and VD Merwe prominent was just too good on the day.
To Grassy…This is not a tradional derby…Kwaggas having to travel in excess of 400Km ..Brugstreet has been like that for many a year..except that we cant be called the “posseel” anymore…I myself was suprised by the few spectators, but come watch a Paul Roos or any other WC derby….We dont have the old school money of the KZN schools to have big stands and seating..this is Paarl country…its tough and hard…you stand on your own two legs…Old people and schoolboys in the stands…the hardcore followers in the sun!…or the rain comes May and June!…I was in the clubhouse until 14:30..you should have come and said hello!..At least the Stormers won today!
@Gungets Tuft: Sorry Gungets. Can’t help.
Grey PE 29 Nico Malan 24
@Woltrui: Do you have any other scores. I have only :
1st – 23-25
2nd – 12-3
3rd – 15-8
4th – 22-10
U16A – 13-3
U16B – 22-0
U15A – 35-0
U15B – 17-0
U14A – 17-12
U14B – 14-11
Hockey
1st – 0-3
2nd – 2-0
3rd – 2-2
U16A – 0-2
U16B – 2-0
U16C – 2-2
U14A – 4-0
U14B – 2-1
PBHS/MC. Eerste helfte het PBHS na sowat 15 minute die skrums en vaste los begin domineer. College het baie strafskoppe afgestaan. PBHS geleenthede benut en loop welverdient 22-10 voor. MC verander ooglopend taktiek in die 2de helfte. Bal word vinniger na punte versprei. Taktiek werp vrugte as met MC wat met spel , so te se verby, die voortou neem. MC slaan egter in hul eie halfgebied aan. Die PBHS skrum plaas MC onder groot druk waarna strafskop afgestaan word. “The rest is history”.
PBHS spelers wat uitstaan. Die 9 baie intelligente rugby spelertjie. Die 8, 5, 4 en 3 almal baie goed gespeel. No2 egter my speler van wedstryd. Bb Craven week keurders baie moeilike keuse op 2. Hope talent. PBHS se haker seker die grootste. Lynstaan werk ook uitstekend.
MC se 8 woelig. 9, 12 en 13 almal goed gespeel. Die span het baie guts getoon om terug te kom in wedstryd.
Fisiese aanslag en voories wat domineer wen die Goffer trofee egter vir die Noordvalies.
@Grasshopper: His son plays for the u14A’s and he helps with some 1st team coaching on a advisory basis from time to time.
@Klofie Pa: @Tjoppa: Kloof pa ek het geleentheid gehad om die Affie wedstryd voor die PBHS/MC in te pas. Moet se ek was effe teleurgesteld met Affies se spel. Natuurlik moelik om enige iets uit so tipe wedstryd te leer. Die voories was vir my, om dit ligtelik te stel, slordig. Na 5 wedstryd behoort ons lynstane meer klinies te wees. Volgens my gaan Kloof Affies rol as hulle(Affies) nie meer klinies is. Die individualisme, waardeur driee telkemale weggegooi is
was ook swak .
Positiewe punte. Affies se No 6 was briljant. Balle na willekeur afgeneem in losgemale. Speler van wedstryd met n myl.
Interesting to see Anton Leonard at the game, is he helping coach the kwaggas?
@Tandem: I was impressed by the Boishaai never say die attitude and the gees on the stands from a small number of boys watching. The kwaggas could have run away with it but Boishaai always hit back every time the kwaggas scored. With 15 to go it was still a 2 point game! Boishaai should have a great season still!
@Grasshopper: Thank you Grasshopper I appreciate your analyses which is in line with what I received from other friends who attended the game. Kwaggas clearly a very good team so well done with the win . Tomorrow the sun will come up again again and we will still be Boishaaiers !
Bishops 22- Paul Roos 22.
Great game by all accounts. Played in great spirit.
@ Amakelite
Think Westville needs drop this game off their fixture list going forwards as it silly – every year is a walkover and as much as a nice win sounds good they need better opponents to improve. Nice though all the same :-)
@Grassy: Thanks for keeping us up to date
@Tandem: no worries, had a good chat with a Boishaai teacher. They were not expecting to win this one and in the end they did well to be that close. The kwaggas have some serious game breakers. Their props are big but actually too big, they lumber around the park. I was impressed by the Boishaai front row especially the hooker. Your locks are not great in the lineouts but great in the loose especially the massive no18, jeez he is huge!!! Must be 130kg plus and close to 2m…
@GimOB: well, even games that are not derbies attract bigger crowds. I was just disappointed in the attendance considering it was two of the top sides in SA playing. There is also not much covered seating for spectators. The schools took up most if it with the best seats in the house. Paarl should put up wooden stands and put the kids on there or use the lower fields which have far more seating on the concrete stands. The game was good but again could have been better if played later in the afternoon. A 12 kickoff is far too hot. Reached 36 degrees by 1pm. Paarl have some very good forwards but the backs were just outplayed by the kwaggas backs, too big, too quick and too skillful. Looking forward to the Paarl vs Glenwood game at Wildeklawer, should be good. Outeniqua have 4 or 5 SA schools players in their midst. The lock, two flanks, centre and wing..
Grens 27 Dale 19
PBHS 25 – Maritzburg College 23. Final score.
@Tjoppa: nee f&$@k Tjoppa!!!
Hierdie tipe games rol net nie vir n ou man soos ek nie!!
Maar dankie aan die manne van Sentraal. Lekker harde game gewees en hoop julle reis veilig terug na Bloem!!
Sien rugby15 het ons op as verloor. hoop hulle stel reg.
En nou wats die storie met 88-3 Affies?? Jis dit kan mos nie goed wees vir die JV kinders nie. Mind you ek moet shuttap, soos wat ons gespeel het lyk daai score nie onmoontlik teen ons nie!!
Maar baie geluk Affies!!!
PBHS 22 – 12 College. Halftime. .MC discipline letting them down.
@CapeMan: As I said, you guys must be proud.
Westville 52 Empangeni 0
@Klofie Pa: Wat het daar by julle gebeur? Nee magtig man.
Affies 88 – HTS John Vorster 9. What a terrible sad sad day for Pretoria School rugby. The once mighty Johns Vorster is down and out. Could not even bring enough players and had to combine with HS Ben Viljoen to play.
Wynberg 10 – Rondebosch 10
Bishops 22 – Paul Roos 22.
Its all happening in the Cape
@Ploegskaar: Boland at home are incredibly tough to beat so I think having home ground helped immensely. Our u14As won 32-14, our highly rated side lost to a great u15A(also highly) Boland side 12-24, u16A lost to Boland 0-20 and it seems all the other sides were evenly lost and won. I hear your pack is huge
Geluk Kwaggas!! As ek so kyk na die verloop van die game was dit n taai en close game.
@Tandem: Its been a long time since weve beaten them. Theyve been a ‘bogey’ side for the chaps. Really wanted your boys to win today but I guess this Outenique side are just incredible. If they beat Gimmies then they are the best side in the country.
@CapeMan: You guys must be proud of yourselves today, from the twitter updates it seems you won all the games… What an absolutely amazing turn-around in a few weeks, never-mind a year….
Wat ‘n teleurstelling. SACS 26 Landbou 22, Stellenberg 12 Drostdy 29. Ek sien ‘n herhaling van 2011 op die kaarte…
@CapeMan: Wow well done to SACS . It is a real shock because Landbou very good team.
SACS 26 – Boland 22. Great win by the boys.
Hi Grasshopper: thank you very much for your updates. Please come and watch interschools on first
Saturday of August . There will be plenty of atmosphere I promise you ! Regarding the game the result is obviously disappointing from a Boishaai point of view but congrats to Kwaggas. If they beat Paarl Gym in 2 weeks time then they should probably be nr 1 this year after beating Grey Bloem as well. I believe Boishaai will still continue to improve through the year . I never like to loose but as long as we beat Paul Roos and Paarl Gym I can still live with it.
@Grassy: How many ‘derbies’ do you have in KZN where the visiting teams’ supporters have to travel 400km? You can’t really class this a derby. Not to take anything away from the classic Kwagga/Western cape Schools rivalry.
Will have to move my support to another school to do the job in the WC. BUT!!! Sentraal vs Waterkloof- 25-20. Yet more confirmation that more than one school in Bloemfontein can play rugby. Magnifique Sentaal!!! A “geen katogarie” skool wen n “5” BHP se grafieke en stelsel is deurmekaar gekrap, en dan gaan hy nog boonop knorrig wees oor die resultaat in die Paarl. En as die Stormers nog boonop moet gaan verloor, gaan daardie braaivleisvuur darem lank neem.
How many ‘derbies’ do you have in KZN where the visiting teams’ supporters have to travel 400km? You can’t really class this a derby. Not to take anything away from the classic Kwagga/Western cape Schools rivalry.
45-36 to Outeniqua! Outeniqua were far stronger but home ground motivated Booishaai. Good game but lacks the atmosphere and crowds of a KZN derby!
Boishaai caught sleeping, scrumhalf taps and over! 45-29
Flyhalf Human slices the defense and over! 38-29
Great try by Boishaai hooker, weak defense. Score 31-29
Great try by Outeniqua wing no 14. Score 31-22!
24-22 to Outeniqua, tight game!
24-15 to Outeniqua. Boishaai have a huge lock, no18 keeping them in the forward battle…
Halftime 17-8 to Outeniqua, kwaggas will win this easily if they stick to the basics….
17-5 to Outeniqua!
10-5 to Outeniqua! Boishaai on the attack!
Boishaai score in the corner, forward try. 5-3!
Boishaai 2nds win easily 62-19, under 16a’s lose 15-8. First to start soon, not a huge crowd. Maybe 3000 max…
Haha gungets, I use an iPad these days! No poaching just watching, should be good!
@Tandem: On the contrary, he is short, has long ears and drinks Red Heart
Early rugby results from PBHS
College U14B win 14-11 – score to sin in the last 5 minutes
College U14A win 17-12 – score to win in the last 5 minutes after being 5-7 at half time.
Hockey not as pretty
U14C lost 2-3
3rds drew 2-2
U16A lost 0-2
@Grasshopper: Enjoy
I wish i could have been there to join you for a cold one after the game in the club house. Let
us know how you experienced the day and
the game. Please say hi to Boishaai Pa. You will immediately recognise him . He is a 2.1 m tall blond giant and will be with various bodyguards and pretty female fans !
@Grasshopper: When Grassy arrives in a mini-bus carrying a clipboard, be afraid, be very afraid!!
@Tandem: Heading out to Paarl now, should be a cracker! Go Boishaai! Will also be doing some spying for Glenwood, only joking!
@GreenBlooded: @GimOB: Thanks
Gim OB .
Sorry for typo i meant know not no
Best wishes to Boishaai today against Kwaggas. It will be fantastic day in Paarl today . I wish i could have been there to support the boys in blue. Not sure if the other bloggers no but it is also the clash of the two brothers . Elmo Wolfaardt ( Boishaai matric 1988)coaches Boishaai first team and his brother
Jacques ( Boishaai matric 1986) coaches the first team forwards of the Kwaggas. Both brothers played first team for Boishaai and were coached by
Richard Visagie who still coach Boishaai ‘s first teams forwards.!
Dale should take Grens,u16 game will be the hardest,grens could take that one,on the selborne front the u16’s are playing their B’s could go either way
the A’s are no where at the moment,enjoy
Paarl boys u14’s to win,kwaggas u15 to win,u16’s i have not seen
lookout the kwaggas are in town
Go Boishaai!
@Gungets Tuft: I shall be reporting live from PBHS. Stay tjooned.
@Grasshopper: both the Paarl boys/Outeniqua and the Paul Roos/Bishops games start at 12:00 tomorrow. Both the second and first team game will be available to follow on http://www.webrugby.co.za
@BoishaaiPa: what time is the game in Paarl tomorrow? Thinking of coming to watch and have a feeling Cape schools play early. In KZN we play 1st team at 3 or 3.30….
@Gungets Tuft: Go Boyshaai, Boishaai, Boland Landbou, Affies, Waterkloof and Eunice.
@Gungets Tuft: Goodness!! well all i can say is give them hell!!!
@Woltrui: Your confidence in the “SAR and Harbours” is misplaced. Several years ago, for a trip, arranged well in advance, GCB were dropped and had it not been for the intervention of a parent(who was a minister at the time) they would have had to cancel. Its therefore more than just a security issue-also a dependability/reliability issue@Gungets Tuft: No, that sounds like AT. He is known locally as the “masked highway” robber. And its not Standerton, its St Anderton, for petes sake!
@Woltrui: Always. PBHS are very similar in ethos to College. My son has made firm mates there, always stays with the same kid and we reciprocate when he comes to Durban.
Chat tomorrow during the day tomorrow as things develop. I am a real fan of waiting till the game is over before claiming a victory or a completely biased loss
@Gungets Tuft: Glad you guys are safe. Enjoy the day tomorrow.
@Woltrui: Looks like the lighties cell-GPS might have been wrong, unless Bog stole Vrede and moved it to Standerton, the buses have arrived at PBHS. Still been a moer of a trip, left at 8:00am, there at 5pm .. 9 hours .. eeisch. Boys are stuffed. Confident that the PBHS parents will help them settle quickly – good stock from PBHS. Not going to share the full detail of the last Chunniesbeg tour with the host (not PBHS!!!) potting in the car on the way home and kipping on the couch with the family dog …
Any Paul Roos vs Bishops predictions?
Sterkte aan al die spanne wat jol. Ek dink almal sit en wag vir die PBois /Kwagga game. Gaan n cracker wees!! Enige iemand se hoe laat hulle begin sodat ons dit op Twitter kan volg. Affies gedra julle. Pasop vir daai verlore steel wat rondvlieg so nou en dan!! LOL!! enjoy!
@Gungets Tuft: Can’t be easy on the boys. Wonder if it won’t be better – financially as well, to go back to trains. Contract a good security company to take responsibility for security issues?
I see Glenwood 1st Playing Pinetown 1st at Vootrekker tomorrow
Plenty of staggered games at Voortrekker too for example Gwd 5th playing Linpark 2nds
@Gungets Tuft: You say Vrede? Goodness me- do you realise who lives there? What or more correctly WHO is holding up proceedings? Andre T has gone missing here, but is believed to be active in that area.
Not a great start to the College tour to PBHS. All buses stuck in a traffic snarl up near Vrede, moving now after being held up for just over an hour.
Still at least 2 1/2 hours to go, already 3:15. Arrive in Chunnisbeg just in time to see it turn into a car-park in Friday rush hour. Probably only get to PBHS at 7pm
@Klofie Pa: Sien albei manne op flank. Ek dink ek sien julle more
@Klofie Pa: Nee dan moet jy sien wat volgende kom. Ruan Brits oorspronklik van Brits is die real deal. Tans graag 11. Dan praat ons weer. Sterkte vir Saterdag.
@Tjoppa: Weet nie wat sy naam is maar hyt n hele paar Klofies gestamp en ons kon om die dood nie die donner om kry nie.
Goeie skrumwerk ook gedoen.
IMO WP gehalte vir CW!!’
@Klofie Pa: Praat jy van Ruan
@BOG: Maar moes die mis in die kraal soveel invloed he? Soveel talent so min prestasie.
@BoishaaiPa: O ja, nog n ding. Toe ek in die Kaap was, was dit nog skoon en veilig. Die roete wat ons geneem het destyds van Stellenboch na Kenilworth en uithangplekke soos Clifton, sal ons vandag middeldeur plakkerskampe neem. Jou voormalige kennise van Zwelitsha in KWT, is een vd dae almal in die Kaap.
@BoishaaiPa: Ek woon terloops nie in Bloem of selfs eers in die VS nie. Wat die “wereld daar buite” betref, dink ek, kan ek met groter gesag- en dit se ek in alle nederigheid- as meeste, daaroor praat. Oor n tydperk van 30 jaar + het ek vir uitgebreide tydperke vertoef, in verskillende werelddele. Selfs my kinders en vrou, is burgers van ander lande. So, polities, ekonomies en maatskaplik, het ek n baie uitgebreide wereldbeskouing en is my internasionaal konserwatiewe beskouings reeds die gevolg van my blootstelling aan die werklikhede “on the coal face”- op grondvlak. Ek was nie, soos meeste, afhanklik vir die media vir my vorming nie.
Sterkte Boishaai, is daar al ‘n program beskikbaar?
@BOG: As jy langer in die WK gebly het was jy dalk nie nou so verkramp en eenoogig nie…Dan sou jy dalk weet daar is n wyer wereld as Grey, Bloem en die Cheetahs!…
@BoishaaiPa: Di maar net die OGs wie die fout gemaak het en later in hulle lewens eers WK toe getrek het. Ek het op n vroee leeftyd reeds daardie gebied uit my lewe gekry en soos jy sekerlik teen die tyd weet, ervaar ek nog steeds trauma wat met daardie verblyf verbind word.
Sorry vergeet om die foto te pos. http://www.mycomlink.co.za/sports_individual/event_pics/846/hjs_rug.jpg
Boishaai se u14s wat onoorwonne was by Outeniqua toernooi. Watch out vir daai vleuelkie, 4de van regs agter. Blits vinnig.
Paul Roos vs Bishops program.
http://www.mycomlink.co.za/posting.php?i=805
@BoishaaiPa: Ek dink daai haker is van die bestes in die land. So sterk soos n bees die seun.
Kearsney beat Windhoek 15-3
@BoishaaiPa: Glo nie seker hy gaan jaar klaar maak as beste.
@Tjoppa: Hy sal volgende jaar sy plek kry..vanjaar se haker baie goed en in matriek…Ruan sal sekerlik n game of twee opkom van die bench. maar vir eers sal hy sy plekkie moet afwag.
@BOG: Jy moet bietjie meer uitkom..Daar is sommer n hele spul OG’s wat Boishaai ook ondersteun en wat selfs hulle eie seuns in Boishaai gesit het…So jy is nie alleen nie!
Go Boishaai !!! Nog nooit het Boishaai soveel steun gehad vanuit Bloem se westekant nie. Alle voorspoed aan Sentraal en ek weet nie of dit n eerste is dat n OG hulle steun nie- ons trou met hulle meisies, maar steun?
@BoishaaiPa: Met die goeie spel van die huidige haker dink jy Ruan gaan opskuif. Ek hoop so. Mooi seum mooi gesin.
@Tjoppa: Brits het goue medalje by SA’s gewen. Hy sal sekerlik darem die naweek speel vir die seccies of chiefs…
@Klofie Pa: Ek sien Saterdag is festival. Speel julle teen ‘n old boys span my maat. Is daar ouderdomsbeperking gesit op die spelers van Sentraal.
@BoishaaiPa: Speel jou maat mnr. Brits se seun alweer. Hoe het dit met die atletiek gegaan?
@Klofie Pa: Het Emsie Schoeman se nommer gekry as julle daai onopgevoede kinders wil stuur. Hoe laat speel julle Saterdag. Ek en my vriend van Slaapstad wil graag ‘n draai gooi as moontlik.
@BoishaaiPa: Nee by Affies die naweek.
Boishaai met 8!!
@Tjoppa: Sal ek jou daar op Brugstraat sien Saterdag?…
@Woltrui: Jammer ek dink Outeniqua gaan vir die eerste keer die jaar getoets word. Sien almal skryf Boishaai af MAAR ek dink die manne gaan wen met 9.
Hoop net BOG bid onder skuilnaam anders is Boishaai gedoem.
Wat van Voortrekker met 10 oor Glenwood.
@Tjoppa: Pretoria BH met 5, Outenikwa met 10 (My konneksies noem dat BOG al die heel week vir Paarl Bois High bid), Rondebosch sink Wynberg met 15, Boland Lanbou oor SACS, Kloof met 20 oor Sentraal en Jeppe wat Northwood vou in die Goffer Trofee. 8)
Pretoria Boys High, Paarl Boishaai, Affies, Waterkloof, Sharks en Vrystaat. Vatso Wolhol