| 1ST | XV. | 2ND XV | U16A | U15A | U14A | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kingswood | 12 | 32 | Grey High | x | x | x | x |
| Daniel Pienaar | 7 | 29 | St Andrews | 8-13 | 24-7 | 0-31 | 0-31 |
| Punt | 0 | 29 | Nico Malan | ||||
| Oudtshoorn | 6 | 22 | Marlow | ||||
| Cambridge | 24 | 0 | Itembelihle | ||||
| Michaelhouse | 38 | 11 | Northwood | 28-0 | 22-22 | 54-3 | 17-10 |
| M. College | 39 | 10 | George Campbell | 47-9 | 73-0 | 64-0 | 63-0 |
| Kearsney | 26 | 25 | Glenwood | 9-13 | 5-17 | 10-17 | 0-15 |
| DHS | 28 | 25 | Port Natal | x | 12-18 | x | 66-0 |
| Westville | 20 | 10 | Hilton | 6-3 | 19-8 | 24-11 | 10-13 |
| St Davids | 17 | 6 | St Charles | 36-10 | 3-3 | 7-10 | 7-19 |
| Greytown | 10 | 43 | Sarel Cilliers | ||||
| Pretoria BH | 46 | 6 | John Vorster | ||||
| St Johns | 59 | 24 | Jeppe | 5-41 | 0-17 | 7-38 | 16-12 |
| St Stithians | 21 | 22 | KES | 22-30 | 0-39 | 11-25 | 17-8 |
| St Albans | 26 | 25 | St Benedicts | x | 12-12 | ||
| Helpmekaar | 21 | 25 | Menlopark | ||||
| Montana | 32 | 29 | Ben Vorster | ||||
| Duineveld | 13 | 52 | Grey College | 0-60 | 0-108 | ||
| AHS Kroonstad | 14 | 62 | Fichardtpark | x | |||
| Diamantveld | 7 | 32 | Affies | x | 9-34 | 6-26 | 0-31 |
| Louis Botha | 0 | 15 | Waterkloof | ||||
| Welkom Gim | 0 | 38 | Noord-Kaap | ||||
| Hentie Cilliers | 37 | 24 | Zastron | ||||
| Voortrekker (Beth) | 45 | 17 | Jim Fouche | 24-7 | |||
| Boland Landbou* | 0 | 5 | Drostdy (20minx2 halves) | ||||
| Hugenote | 14 | 13 | Tygerberg | 12-31 | 31-17 | 0-22 | 12-7 |
| Monnas | 50 | 22 | Pietersburg | 36-0 | 24-13 | 114-0 | |
| Centurion | 28 | 27 | Vereeniging Gim | 18-12 | 5-34 | 41-7 | |
| Marais Viljoen | 22 | 58 | Transvalia | 24-18 | 12-36 | 10-20 | |
| Nelspruit | 27 | 22 | Garsfontein | 20-12 | 15-12 | 13-0 | |
| Eldoraigne | 6 | 20 | Kempton Park | 19-24 | 19-3 | 8-7 | |
| Ermelo | 8 | 27 | Rustenburg | 0-19 | 0-73 | 10-42 | |
| Klerskdorp | 16 | 25 | HTS Middelburg | 32-13 | 25-5 | 15-5 | |
| Florida | post | poned | EG Jansen |
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@PaarlBok: ‘n Paar uitslae opgespoor:
Boland Landbou 80 Primrose RFC 0
PRG 24 Swartland 7
Paarl Gim 40 Stellenbosch RA 17
@PaarlBok: Heeldag braai is bo aan die lys met heeldag skolerugby kyk, so niks daarmee fout nie
Sal volgende week gaan loer.
Weet net Gim se seccies het Stellenbosch Rugby Akademie B ‘n moerse pak gegee.
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@Ploegskaar: Skool is op lang vakansie, dit behoort vroeg volgende week op Gim se site te wees. Ek kon nie rondloop nie, het gebraai heeldag.
@PaarlBok: Weet jy dalk waar mens die De Jagers sportdag uitslae kan kry?
Brackenfell Sports Day results:
Durbanville 13 Piketberg 14
JG Meiring 3 HTS Bellville 3
SACS 0 Bellville 15
Tygerberg 3 Outeniqua 68
Brackenfell 12 Strand 19
@Grasshopper: Sorry Hopper. I missed your post.
But “removed” is such a harsh word
I merely moved the relevant comments to the new thread about the Televised games. Go there and you will see they are still there.
Honestly, I think that when the score margin has exceeded 80 points you have gained everything that you possibly could have from the game. By then it is unnecessary to carry on with the game, players could get injured, and the bench usually consists of B team players who have already played a game if i’m not mistaken. So it seems pointless really, the game has long lost its competitiveness by then.
@RuggaZ:
But then don’t you need an agreement on both sides? If one side wants to and the. Other doesn’t, what happens there? One team may want to end because of the fact that their players aren’t learning anything from the loss while on the other hand the winning team is gaining experience and gets to put their bench on, see what they can do and even try new moves. Maybe then the power should be given to the referee?
Just wondering: Would it not make sense to call off an u14 game if the score margin is exceeding 80?
You sooooo tiring horsefly!
@Henkies:
yeah I didn’t see the other part on Monnas Glenwood here, thought it was originally from other thread.
The whole random,”put your school whatever results ” is from Grassy so thank him for that. I just followed suit
@Henkies: Don’t start getting all logical now, you will ruin everything.
Every now and again FlyUno forgets his medication but we let it slide, every family has one …
Ha ha Horsey you crack me up man…You say Grassy’s comment was random but on a rugby preview blog from a week or two ago you chipped in out of the blue with the results of a cricket match between DHS and Northwood ha ha..I like the enthusiasm
@Grasshopper:
OK sorry, on that note, a cracker it shall be!! Your U15 and U16a will surely be looking for revenge after losing 30-0 and 18-0 respectively
@Horsie, no it wasn’t. Beet removed the thread about the games on TV which Roger brought up which includes a Glenwood vs Monnas game. Beet obviously forgot to move my post too….
@Roger: They beat Westville 14-9
@Grasshopper:
That was quite random…
Glenwood vs Monnas is on Glenwood’s Old Boys Day, should be a cracker! Monnas will want revenge from 2012….
@meadows: Hi , I checked with a mate who is very involved with the MHS Old Boys Club, they only have two sports bursaries a year ( generally awarded to allrounders who are good at sport in general not only rugby ).
They dont offer any bursaries to boys who don’t start in E-Block ( grade 8 ), as they got a bad reputation in the 90’s with all the post matric imports from Grey in particular. Everyone concerned realised that it was grossly unfair on the kids and parents who had been paying their way all along , to suddenly be ousted by some bloke who arrived from Bloemfontein.
@Roger:
Your u16 lost 15-16 to DHS. Drew 25-25 to College and beat Westville
@Vleis: hence the reason for canning 3rd term rugby – just didn’t work for KES – they got beaten by Jeppe for G#ds sake
@Roger: It is much easier for Jeppe and Saints to step up as they have some 1,000 and 800 boys respectively. St Alban’s and St David’s have closer to 500, so it is very difficult. Also note that:
1. St Alban’s are very strong at competing sports that reduce the number of rugby players – e.g. basketball, rowing, hockey, etc. For example, in my son’s age group they do not have enough players to make up a C team…so they borrow a few from hockey and make a few of the B team players play two games in a row.
2. In my opinion, St Alban’s key focus is cricket (# 7 in the country last year and # 8 this year) and most of the A/1st team cricketers are also A/1st team rugby players (e.g. 8 in u15), so the preseason preparation is severely hampered.
That said, St Alban’s beat Jeppe 1sts last year, who beat KES 1sts (and in a dream team year for KES)….so, while St Alban’s rugby is not at KES’s standard, they can certainly not be taken too lightly.
@Vleis: schoolboy cricket in Gauteng is very strong – coupled with PBHS, Affies and lately Watefkloof – probably the strongest in the country. Personally, I like it that Saints and Jeppe are stepping up on the rugby front – makes for great viewing. It is boring when one school dominates – like Grey in the Free State – they have to travel far and wide just to get a competitive game. With rugby at schools like Potch Boys High, Highlands, Athlone etc literally non-existant and weak at Parktown, Linden, Randburg, Voorentoe and the co-ed schools it is great to see Jeppe and Saints stepping up. Now just need St Albans, Bennies and St Davids to do same
@Roger: Sure, KES has a great tradition and historic success re cricket, so coupled with the Jimmy Cook Academy, it will attract many stars. That said, all the Jhb schools (e.g. Jeppe, Saints, St Davids, St John’s, etc) offer many cricket bursaries, so there is stiff competition. But there again, KES stole the march on the others by offering bursaries early.
It is interesting to note that the Jhb schools (plus St Albans) in my son’s age group have mostly hammered the schools from other provinces (e.g. MHS, Hilton, Westville, Bishops, St Andrews, Kingswood, etc) in cricket…but more often than not get hammered by said schools in rugby at junior levels. Maybe the bursary policy has a little to do with same (i.e. many cricket bursaries, but no rugby ones), plus the fact that we play very little (or no) rugby at junior school in Jhb.
On a related note, I will be following Saint’s u14 results this year with great interest, as this is the first time that I am aware of, that one of the ‘Soutie’ schools have offered so many rugby bursaries. Let’s see what difference it makes. So far, it has proven successful given that the u14A team is the only Saints team that beat KES this weekend. I wonder how long it will last though – I’m sure that Monnas, Menlo, etc will be targeting these guys in future.
@Amalekite: I’m a little out of touch but if memory serves there are no more than two rugby bursaries per year awarded and you are correct in that they are awarded in grade 8. In my experience it was interesting how often the recipients of these bursaries were not even in the 1stXV mix by the time they got to their matric year. This was certainly the case with the successful 2007 side.
Ryno Combrinck is still director of rugby at MHS and his influence is huge on all aspects of rugby coaching and conditioning at MHS. At 1st XV level Mike Schwartz and his team are very good at playing to their strenghs.
there is no doubt that at boarding school there is ample time for improving skills and conditioning. The boys play rugby every spare moment that they have and that is why most MHS (and boarding school in general) boys learn to pass the ball well.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: what were the U16 results last year against College, Westville and DHS?
@Vleis: Saints won only one game out of 19 on the day – they got a long way to go. However, the facilities at that school are phenomenal. Its campus is superb and they are doing the right things – lets give them a few years
@Vleis: I think on the cricket front it is a combination of two things:
a) Jimmy Cooks’ academy is run at KES and it is regarded as one of the best in SA – if you are an aspiring youing cricketer in Gauteng it is where you want to be. To be coached by either Jimmy or his sons is a real boost. Boys from all over Guateng come to the academy – it is state of the art.
b) Cricket has and always will be a big focus for KES – the schools has produced more SA schools players than any other school in country and is second to DHS in terms of international players produced.
On the rugby front – no bursaries for rugby were handed out last year or this year. Lets see how the results pan out – the current thinking at the school is that with 1100 boys and 350 boarders the rugby should be relatively strong anyway and that the schools strong rugby heritage and traditions should attract the better players anyway – lets see how the season progresses?
@meadows: Out of all the schools in KZN, I think that House have most probably got the best recipe for success.
1. They only hand out scholarships at Grade 8 level. They believe in their players all the way. This creates an atmosphere of mutual respect and confidence in the boys, knowing that they are working towards something that will not be taken from them by a player that suddenly arrives on a scholarship in Grade 10.
2. They make sure that their coaches are top notch. I remember St. Charles becoming very threatening in the early 2000’s mainly due to coach Combrink. It did not last as House made him an offer that he could not refuse. I stand to be corrected, but I think that he is still the director of rugby. You can buy excellent players, but if the coaching is not right up there, you will not get the results.
3. All the boys being borders and playing a lot of touch and conditioning themselves certainly helps.
4. Not playing too many unnecessary games reduces the chances of fatigue and injuries.
5. Over the past 2 or 3 years they have started their pre-season earlier to ensure that the lower teams do not have to play catch up. This also reduces injuries and produces better results, enhancing self-confidence.
@beet: Note that Landbou also played Strand earlier in the day at the Mutual and Federal day on the 16th (20min x 2 halves, no penalties and conversions) and won 15-5.
@Roger: By the way, it is only now that Saints have started offering significant rugby bursaries, which is why the KES u14 team lost to them. Even as recently as last year Saints were not doing this, as is evidenced by the terrible results of their u14 team of 2012. Having said that, Saints have certainly offered many cricket bursaries in the past.
@Roger: Interesting what you say re rugby bursaries at KES, as they do the opposite in cricket. From my experience, in 2011 they invited the whole Gauteng 2010 u12 team plus many others to their nets for bursary assessments in Feb 2011. In the end, they offered many bursaries – some 100% even. As such, the current u15A cricket team is packed (if not overflowing) with provincial players. That said, I agree 100% that they don’t do this for rugby, as the current u15A rugby team is weak – I am confident that there are no provincial players in said team.
@beet: I think those backline ‘moves” are a direct result of playing touch rugby day in day out as one does at boarding school ;-) They are conditioned to spin the ball, offload, and look for and run at space. It’s a pity that the moment they enter the pro ranks they have that instinct drilled out of them.
I think that you are right – I’m sure both of those packs topped 800kg easily.
The 2008 MHS front row had two big props in Louis Albertse (Tight head – played Craven Week) and loosehead Gary Mann who was around 115kg but these guys are bigger IMO. Also a lot bigger than Pat Cilliers 2005 front row that had the Craven week hooker in Chris Stander alongside Cilliers and a big lad in1stXV captain Badenhorst.
dagse amal! nog interesante uitslae wat ek raak gesien het!
Landboudal vs Affies 2nd XV, 24-22
Affies 6th XV vs Douglas, 19-12
Affies 8th XV vs Kimberley Boys’ High, 39-5
Hopetown vs Affies 9th XV, 47-15
HTS Kimberley vs Affies 10th XV, 38-5
@Roger:
KES also have a very handy gr.11 group which the KZN teams found hard to beat and didn’t most of the time…
@Vleis: St Johns on 8 June – no St Albans this year – looks like it has been replaced with Menlo Park. Only 13 games this year and no 3rd term rugby – that experiment has been abandoned. Kes rugby programme is in good shape but they are not handing out bursaries like Jeppe and Saints. The 1st XV is handy this year. Saints game was typical early season – wet and muddy and poor handling but they will get much better. They are well coached. I dont think thi syear will live up to the 2009, 2011 and 2012 standards but they will still be very competitive.
@beet: I hope that EG Jansen can go ll the way in the Beeld competition this year. They were so close yet so unlucky a few times.I believe they have the team this year, they must just manage their players well because the depth and injuries and physique becomes a problem at the end of the season for them.
@Roger: Howzit Rog. Long time to speak.
You are much closer to the goings on at KES than me, so is fair to say that KES seems to be on the decline, while Jeppe is on an upward curve at the mo? These things happen in cycles, but it seems that Jeppe’s “recruiting”/etc has been better during the past three or four years.
One further question; is KES playing St John’s and St Alban’s this year? I think that the latter has been cut from the fixture list.
@Woltrui: Jip- Dit gaan beslis nie maklik wees vir EG op Middelburg nie. Dit behoort ‘n riller te wees, ‘n tipe van ‘n kwarteindstryd, moet wen vir albei spanne. (maar EG jansen moet nog Florida speel en wen voor als kan gebeur)
@star:
I didn’t think MHS would be in the running much this year but it seems they are playing quite well now. Sjoe, are we going to have a repeat of 2012?just hope the no1 spot isn’t between GWD and WBHS or we’ll never hear the end of it
Wow it looks like another open season. I thought that MHS would have lost too much structure from last year and while they would dominate upfront they would not have the spine to pull it all together. The above comments regarding the 10 and 12 has made me have a rethink.They will however have to play MC, Westville and Kearsney away and so it will be tougher than last year but signs are there that this is going to be an extremely competitive season. The GW /House match on Meadows will be another cracker.
@meadows: Yes. The MHS backs are still making use of the designs from the time Lambie and the other members of the dream backline were together in about 2007-2008 from what I understand.
In the preview, I mentioned that the LH prop was a machine of note. Saturday was significant because the NW frontrow represented 2 of his main competitors for Craven Week honours this season.
I think you picked a good weekend to go and watch. Definitely the boys are huge these days. Both packs on the day were probably comfortably over the 800kg mark.
I also believe that most of the top KZN schools are now almost on an even par with regards to coaching and conditioning these days and its making for some exciting close contests.
@Tjoppa: Oh big mistake my Tjoppa.
@beet: I was in the midlands on the weekend and popped over to watch the MHS 1st XV play Northwood – it was the first SBR game I’ve watched in about 5-6 years and perhaps I’m a bit out of touch with size standards – but I was very impressed with the size and physicality of the MHS pack. The Northwood side were certainly not small either. The MHS loosehead prop in particular stood out as a ball carrier – he looks very mobile for such a big youngster.
The backs also have the makings of a good unit given that this was, I believe, their first game of the season – good distribution by 10 and 12 and the outside backs ran straight and hard and defended well.
I always expect MHS to produce a competitive backline but think that this pack will give them plenty of good ball which should make them very competitive this year – its going to take a very special schoolboy pack to outmuscle them.
All in all a very well drilled and conditioned unit.
@Woltrui: I’ve heard that EG is Top 10 material this year.
@jakes: Geen idee wanneer hulle speel. Jy is reg Jakes. As Klerksdorp se uitslag teen EG en HTS vergelyk word behoort EG die gunsteling te wees. Ek vermoed die wedstryd word egter in Middelburg gespeel. HTS word nie maklik in Middelburg geklop nie. ‘n Paar groot skole het al daar geval.
@PaarlBok: Soory man seun van daai ander klomp Paarlbois
@Woltrui: As ek so na die scores kyk wat EG Jansen teen Klerksdorp opgestapel het (59-3) en close score wat HTS Middelburg teen klerksdorp gehad het, behoort EG jansen by verre die favourites te wees. Wanner speel EG jansen en Florida??
i see Garsfontein lost all their main games against Nelspruit,can that be????
@beet: KES results:
1st XV – 22-21
2ND XV 30-22
U16A 39-0
U15A 25-11
U14A 8-17
played 19 lost 1
@Tjoppa: Jy vra my wragtag vas. Ek was nie daar nie, het die fotos van Gim se site getrek vir julle.
@Klofie Pa: Ja, die koeie word lank nie meer gemelk in Maitlandstraat nie, (Het seker nou n ander naam, waarskynlik Mandela Drive) en daar is nogal straatligte ook. En terloops ek woon nie in Bloem of selfs die VS nie.
@PaarlBok: Speel Ruan Brits al weer??
@PaarlBok: Mooi fotos Bok. Is Ploegskaar die lang norsie of die kort vettetjie? 8)
@GCollege86: thanx Davy
Paarl Gim het met hul vergrote sqaud gespeel by Boland Landbou rugbydag teen Augsburg (5x driee @ nul) en Oakdale (6X driee @1)
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@Klofie Pa: Hie hie hie. Ook gedag daar is net een skool in Bloem.
ja dis sleg van die kwart. maar die jaar nog lank vir garsies om te roer!!
bog het gehoor daar is 8/9 skole in die rosestad. nie besef nie.
@beet: The point I am trying to make is that several schools in Bloem, would be more than just competitive in most larger centres in SA. In fact, their record confirms it. Schools like Sentraal, Jim Fouche, Fichardtpark, Bloemfontein ect, have proved their abilities elsewhere. Often the margins between GCB and these schools are smaller than between GCB and the supposedly rugby schools in the cities. Of course, there are exceptions.
@Mike: I also hope so re: SAC, but it seems they have a quality outfit, great result for them at DP.
I reckon Grey need to look at Keanu and Jeremy as their centre combination and play the ex-Dale lad at fullback. I do not foresee them having too much trouble with Westville on Thursday, some cracking matches at Graeme on Thursday, pity SAC have probably drawn the easiest game with them playing Pearson but it’s probably cos they playing Bishops on Saturday.
Regtig jammer daar is nie meer ‘n kwart eindstryd in Nu Power reeks. Geen geleentheid vir foute. Top 4 dan Nellies, Monnas, Kempies en HTS Middelburg of E G Jansen?
As oud Laevelder sal dit goed wees om 2 Mpumalanga spanne in die semi’s te sien.
@QC86: Rudi, geluk met jou verjaarsdag. Sal jou later bel.
@BOG: No disrespect to Louis Botha because they can stand their ground against a number of top schools but they are well into their season now against Klofies who has just started. So I don’t know that this score is a true reflection of the strength of Bloem rugby.
The gap between the top school in Bloem (FS region) and the next 3 or 4 is a lot bigger than in any other region in SA.
If there was a regional compo where the results of the top 5 schools of each region counted, chances are good that FS would end last of all the major school rugby regions.
@Klofie Pa: @Woltrui: Jammer! HTS Middelburg 25 Klerksdorp 16., This would have been a major surprise had Klerksdorp won the game.
@Woltrui: Nee wat woltrui… ‘n goeie verloorder is ‘n gereelde verloorder! Joke net! Glad nie slegte verloorders nie… Net nie gehou waarvan ek gesien het nie dis maar al… Jy onthou Bryce Lawrence…? Soos ek se, ons vat hom op die ken en beweeg aan! Ons 1stes speel Donderdag teen Glenwood, so dit sal ‘n goeie aanduiding wees van waar hulle staan… Neutrale veld, neutrale ref so ek belowe ek sal nie hierdie keer kla nie!
Ons is uit die Nu Power, daars nie hierdie jaar ‘n kwarteind rondte nie…. net die no.1 van elke poel gaan deur na ‘n semifinaal… Ons sal maar moet regmaak in die Beeld!
Lekker dag vir al julle rugby lovers!
@Klofie Pa: Ek verstaan HTS Middelburg het gewen. Verstout my om te se die top 4 in die Nu Power reeks kan as volg lyk: HTS Middelburg, Monnas, Nellies en EG Jansen of Garsies. Die HTS Middelburg en EG Jansen wedstryd op 20 April gaan ‘n grote wees.
Affies sal ‘n skopper moet kry as hul saam die grotes wil gesels.
@Klofie Pa: HTS Louis Botha kla oor dieselfde ding- hulle se dat hulle ook gestotter het. Maar ek glo, julle weet nou van ander skole in Bloemfontein wat OOK rugby speel en dat die argument van GCB wat geen kompitisie het nie, n fabel is.
dammit bly die eerste game is verby. stotter is n understatement!! lol. het op n stadium gedink die manne is aangese om net tussen die 2 tien tree te speel!!
maar die ys gebreek en nou moet ons begin roer!!
n paar verrassing die naweek. hts middelburg en dan garsies. moet se het ook al n les of wat geleer daar in die mooie nellies. maar nie die ergste. partykeer n goeie dink!!!
lyk my die affie manne wil iets vir kloof se met die mooi wen!! of hoe???
@kcman: Completely agree with you. If given space, that outside centre of yours is dangerous. I think Grey just needs to get the combinations right in that backline. On friday there were so many changes I think it was tough to get continuity and structure for the Grey backs. Westville are going to be tough on thursday but If Grey get that massive pack going Westville have their work cut out for them. Kingswood will definitely surprise a few good teams this year, hopefully St Andrews will be one of them.
@Umtata: Yep.Heard him on Saturday.Rusty start, but he’ll improve.Great to see, and good on Kaunda for opening up the opportunity for others.
As for Dale’s MC 150 Festival’s participation….I think you might want to take that back.Our boys will have their work cut out as they will be facing DHS, Affies and Monnas at the MC Festival.Not an easy line-out by any stretch.
@Rugbyman: Laasjaar toe Klofies julle geklop het was dit ook die skeidsregter se skuld. Vat die loesing sonder om verskonings te soek. Julle gaan ‘n reputasie kry as slegte verloorders.
Glad nie ‘n skande om teen Nellies te verloor nie. Gelukkig laat die Nu Power reeks julle toe om reg te maak en kan julle die kompetisie nog wen.
(Net so vir interesantheid. Nellies het al rugbyspanne gehad wat die Nu Power reeks gewen het, en dit in die tyd toe Affies en Klofies nog aan die kompetisie deelgeneem het. Hulle meisies hokkie was ook al die algehele wenners van die hokkie)
@Umtata: I think the EP schools will be pretty good this year. This Grey side is a good side and will improve over the season, you will struggle to find a pack who will out muscle them, if they get their combinations right in the backline I foresee a good year. They have a seriously good loose trio.
@Woltrui: nee wat woltrui, geen suur druiwe nie… Ons vat hom op die ken, soos ek se dit is vir ons n leerskool.
Net jou punt rondom die refs…. Kom ek noem net twee vd calls wat gemaak is wat absoluut skokkend was:
1: 5 minute voor die einde uik ons slot op die bal na hy feurgeskop is vir n drie langs die pale… Die beslissing? Jy mag nie met jou bors op die bal duik en n drie druk nie, slegs jou hande…. Dis eintlik lagwekkend, maar dit kom net so vd ref af
2: n kwartlyn inskop, ons is voor die bal… Die call? Strafskop…. In my lewe het ek dit nog nooit gesien nie… Verinderstel om n skrum te wees want dis n inskop/afskop….
So swak was hulle beslis met gebrekkige reel kennis…. Ek het darem self 10 jaar geblaas, so ek ken my reels baie goed
Niks teen Nelspruit hoeskool gemik nie, wel teen die refs….
@Umtata: If you look at Border Selborne/Queens/Dale/Hudson and EP Grey/Brandwag/St Andrews/Kingswood/Nico Malan/Marlow?Framesby i think EP will have the upper hand.
But Graeme day will give us a indicator of what to expect.
Bad luck to Kingswood and well done St Andrews.
@kcman:
@kcman: who do you think has the upper hand this year EP or Border? This will be answered at Graeme day but just want to hear what you think before thursday.
@Mike: @Umtata: In all honesty Kingswood did miss 4 players who would normally start and unfortunately they are key players. Grey were at full strength and the score does somewhat flatter Grey.
Grey have a massive pack with an outstanding loose trio but the backline lacks direction and the only shining light was Dylan Vermaak on the right wing. Grey will definitely have to look at their centres because Davron Cameron played the fool with them.
I however think that Grey will have a really good season despite the tough fixture list they have. By the way we only have 220 boys in the College and when we miss the no.1 choices at tighthead prop, 8th man, inside centre and flank it does make a huge difference but I still maintain our boys aquitted themselves very well.
This team will beat fancied sides this year.
@star:
Sorry meant who are they playing at skonk. Confusion my fault really
@ Horsy : I think they’re playing Hudson Park and St Charles.
@Rugbyman: @Rugbyman: Rugbyman, Nelspruit Hoerskool is n gerespekteerde stigterslid van die Nu power reeks. Een van die top skole in Noordvaal met baie hoe standaard en onkreukelbare reputasie. NHS het al baie wedstryde in Nelspruit verloor. Eerste keer dat ek hoor iemand beskuldig n Puma skeidsregter dat hul “skelm” is.
Klink eerder soos suur drywe omdat julle verloor het.
@Horsy- Hilton who are a very competent unit. It must be remembered that Westville played with almost half a B backline. This shows the depth that Westville has and will add value to the U16 set up from last year. Bring on 2014 and 2015
Not that I have no faith in our 2013 team and its potential which could end up numero uno in KZN.
@Griffon:
Who they playing
@Woltrui: haai woltrui… Jip ons het swaar gekry. Al die games was egter op n mespunt en kon tot aan die einde enige kant toe gegaan het! Nupower is maar vir ons ook n leerskool, maar ons sal leer…
Een ding is egter baie seker… Mens wen nie maklik in Nelspruit nie… In my hele lewe het ek nog nooit sulke blatante skelm refs gesien nie! Dis rerig teleurstellend is ouens so blaas! Selfs n Nelspruit ouer het ba die tyd vir my gese: “dit werk maar so hier ou vriend…” Sad but true!
@ Star : Good win the 16A’s yesterday.Think they were a bit off pitch in the first 20 minutes, but started playing well at the end of the first half resulting in a try, and second half getting a further 2. There were a bit of touch and go moment where Hilton threatened, but the cover defense was good. Have to wait and see how they do at Skonk
@beet:
Yeah a good victory.I do hear that quite a few of the DHS boys are injured. Doesn’t matter though, this group has been struggling since 2012
Seems like the game at botha’s hill was tight. Games between Kearsney and Dale have always been close, would have liked to play them this year. Dale will only be playin at the MC feast this year, I’m glad as our team doesn’t look strong this year.
@Playa: former 1st XV player Lonwabo “Black” Mtimka will be joining the Xhosa commentry on supersport
@ Horsy- Schwartz unfortunately disallocated his elbow during the match and another kid had to be carried off the field which might have had an impact on proceedings. Next year Westville’s Grade 12s will be represented by the best U16 grouping in Westville’s history( all unbeaten in KZN) so it would be a bit premature(actualy a little silly) to place them behind College and GW.The current Westville U16s have shown the most improvement since U14 and as Amalekite says a lot can happen over the years and time will tell. I personally look for progression and the fact that GW U16B only beat Kearsney by 2 is telling.They would have beaten that team by over 30 the year before.
Port Natal u16A beat DHS u16A 18-12. A very good result for the Porties.
@Mike: I thought it would be a much closer game.Grey was always going to win it, but I would have thought by a 10 or less margin.Could have been a case of underestimating Grey and overestimating KC.
@Playa: Surprised in what way ?
Nicely done St Andrews!The scoreline suggests a convincing victory.
I’m hugely surprised by the Kingswood-Grey scoreline.Though it shouldnt be surprising given KC were missing some key players.You cant play a quality side when you have players missing.
@JeppeRugbyFan:
Yeah it wouldve been awesome. Probably wouldve been a low-scoring game. The DHS team kept clean sheets in 10/17 games last year. Conceded only 49 points the whole season.
As for 2010 U14, yeah think DHS lost 17-8 on the day. To be fair, had they not played KES two days earlier they wouldve won that. 8 of them are in the 1st side with Webster being captain
@Vleis: You are 100% correct. The Affies U14 side from last year beat us 35-9 after Jeppe lead 6-3 at half time. The very same fullback mentioned above as well as one of the front row players got involed in a fight early in the second half and were both sent off, and rightfully so. Everything then went pear shaped and the well drilled Affies team ran riot.
@Vleis: I’m not sure about the U14’s this year because I missed their game yesterday. They do have a very good coach though who I’m sure has a plan.
As for the 2012 U14 side (current U15s) I’m not aware of any players from the Free State and I don’t think there are as many as 7 who played CW in 2011. As far as I know there are a few boys from Pretoria and 2 (I think) from the Pumas. The balance are from local primary schools who play very little rugby and who definitely would not have played CW for the Lions.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: As far as I know he (the fullback) wasn’t very happy at the school and his decision to leave wasn’t due to being poached. I’m not sure which school he has gone to but I was also quite disappointed to hear he had left because he was really good.
It’s a pity the annual DHS / Northwood weekend against ourselves and KES has been abandoned but I see we are playing Northwood again this year, so who knows, maybe it will be re-instated in the not too distant future. From what I understand that U15 match would be a cracker. Do you know how many of last years U16’s have made your 1st side this year. I remember them being a very useful U14 side when we played them in Durban in 2010. If I recall correctly Jeppe only managed to beat them by a couple of points.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Yep, I heard that they had a player (or two) sent off….but again, JeppeFan can confirm.
@Vleis:
Think that Affies team even beat Grey College but Affies do get about 35 Craven Week players every year. Not a surprise for me. Shows again how far behind we all are to the super schools.
But, Glenwood U14A only lost 8-20 away to that Affies team so maybe something was wrong on the day with the Jeppe team.
@Griffon:
His influence on a game goes beyond him playing well. Its all about him just being there really, not how he plays. I watched their U16A game vs DHS, there too he was closed down and DHS was much better on the day but College still won. I can honestly say that had he not been there, College wouldve easily lost with their multiple kzn players.
@amalekite
Some very good backline players there in Schwartz,Phiipson and Schoeman. They will surely grow to be a very good team
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Bear in mind two points:
1. It was only a rumour that they had seven CW players, which is why I would like to find out more from JeppeFan; and
2. Jeppe has a Boarding facility, which enables them to source CW players from outside the Gauteng province.
Believe it or not, the Jeppe u14 team of 2012 got hammered by the Affies u14 team.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: @HORSEFLY NO.1: To be honest, I only watched the first 5 minutes or so and it looked like we were going to win. The boys had just scored a try. I then made my way back to Bowden’s to watch the rest of the 3rd team game.
I was told that it was 10 all and that a last minute penalty was reversed and kicked over by Hilton. Well done to them.
I must say that all 3 private schools have upped their game over the past 2 or 3 years in as far as their pre-season training goes. I am all for it as it makes them a lot more competitive and it is only fair to their boys.
I know very little about our U14 side, but they seemed pretty decent during the 5 minutes I watched. Time will tell….
@Amalekite:
True it is part and parcel of rugby. Doesn’t matter really, last years news is last years news. Rather focus on this year and explain what happened to your U14A side vs Hilton. Thought they were going to be formidable
@ Horsy : Even with their Captain, I think they would’ve been able to close him down .What was unlike College at that game, was the fact that they kicked the ball out when they were in the attack in the Westville 40.That Westville side should’ve beat the College team IMHO.
@JeppeRugbyFan:
What happened to the fullback? If he was poached then this is exactly what I hate. Schools trying their best to claw back and others keep stealing from them. I really wish there was a DHS vs Jeppe clash this year, couldve been a very,very interesting U15A game.
@Vleis:
Interesting that schools up there can get so many U13 Craven Week players up there, here Glenwood usually have the most with about 5. Talent more evenly spread in kzn.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: I notice that you often mention how things could have been if certain a player(s) had played or not. This is part and parcel of rugby and the opposing team might also have had certain players missing. Unfortunately, there are no comment columns in the record books.
I watched that U16 game last year. Goodsen did not play because he had been red carded in a previous game. College were the ones who did well to draw with a try in the last minute that was actually a knock on seen by the whole crowd.
As far as who is going to be hot next year, I’d rather not offer my opinion as a lot can happen between now and then.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Yes, last year Jeppe u14 beat College by about 24 to 10 at Skonk if I remember correctly.
I’m very surprised by the Jeppe loss to St John’s in the u14 age group this year. Perhaps JeppeFan can help. Are SJC very good at u14 level this year, or is Jeppe weak, or a bit of both? I was told that the u14 team of 2012 had seven players who had played u13 Craven Week in 2011…with a number of them from the FreeState region. Is that correct?
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Thanks HORSEFLY, yes our U15 side is looking good again ths year even though they have lost their influential fullback and place kicker from last year. This has resulted in a few positional changes but it doesn’t seem to have disrupted them too much.
Was also very impressed by the 1st XV yesterday. This side is going to cause a few upsets this year for sure. Their defensive structures need a bit of work, which I am sure they will do, leading up to the Maritzburg festival but the score yesterday definitely flatters St Johns with 2 late tries courtesy of some interesting ref decisions after leading 59-12 with 5 mins to go.
Looking forward to Maritzburg in 2 weeks and hope to meet some of the KZN bloggers while we there.
@JeppeRugbyFan:
Jeppe U15A look the real deal. Played some great rugby last year and I think even beat College. Well done on your resurgence
@beet:
Results Jeppe vs St Johns
1st XV; Jeppe 59 – St Johns 24
2nd XV; Jeppe 41 – St Johns 5
3rd XV; Jeppe 17 – St Johns 0
U16A; Jeppe 17 – St Johns 10
U15A; Jeppe 38 – St Johns 7
U14A; Jeppe 12 – St Johns 16
@Griffon:
Westville should be good but I don’t agree with that they are on par. I know they drew but College was missing inspirational captain and current 1st team 8th man Daryn Goodson from their team. They are a completely diifferent side with him there.Westville did do well to draw though.
I do think Glenwood will once again have the best 1st and 2nd team combo next year because of their current u16A who are streets ahead of all
@ Hosry : I don’t think you should quickly write off Westville for success next year. With their current grade 11’s being on par with the College counterparts as seen from last years 16 A’s.
Gives me great pleasure to see how good the DHS U14B and U15B sides are. Great for depth.
If anyone has video footage of that try – I’d love to see it again!!
@beet: Yeah – Ok. Was trying to make it sound more prop-like. It had me and the other Glenwood supporters in the main stand in a tizz for the next 5 minutes. The Kearsney centre that he stepped is going to get ripped by his mates for the next few weeks methinks!!
Speaking of the main stands: You need to convince the Kearsney board to get it extended. It seems to fill up way too quickly. Either that or send the Kearsney boys across the field onto the bleachers – let them get wet if it rains……
@Green Hopper: For someone who is far away you do seem to have insight into 2 areas that GM will look to improve ahead of Pukke: Lineouts and tackling. I’d said before that I thought much of the confidence seen in GM’s 1st 2 games stemmed directly from a lineout that worked and yesterday it struggled. Away from the scrum tackling and even defensive co-ordination not quite in sync. However handling I can’t fault the team. The ball got a little slippery towards the end with some rain and mist, otherwise it was all good. GM will be a threat to the best teams around simple because they are developing confidence to attack from anywhere, anytime. In one move Dumas saw oppotunity to run the ball basically from his deadball line and it nearly resulted in a try.
Hi Beet. Verstaan HTS Middelburg was wenner teen Klerksdorp?
Jy was toe reg. Die Nelspruit “besoek” nie maklik vir Garsies. Lyk my hulle spanne het deur die bank swaar gekry. Groot verassing. Kan Nellies nou in top 4 van Nu power sien.
Plattelandse rugby lyk gesond in Noordvaal.
@kcob:
If its about the 2014 thing its true
@BOG: I’ll update those Bog.
@GreenBlooded: “bash his way through”
I don’t think anyone even laid a finger on him. And where’s the credit for his excellent dummy not to mention the turn of speed from the big guy.
@Green Hopper:
College will have their year next year, same as Glenwood will in 2015 and DHS in 2016. This will be a nice learning curve for College gr.11s in the side though.
Horsey, always a stone throw in every comment hey?!
@greenhopper, the big one for Kearsney is usually the highway derby, they need to win at Westville…
Overall great results vs Kearsney; http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/sites/default/files/vs%20Kearsney%2016%20March.pdf
1st team hockey winning 3-2, rugby winning 15 of 19 (points for 521 points against 141).
@HORSEFLY NO.1: i think you have a crouching dragon , hidden tiger in the College side , many of the u16 a from last year are in or about that side , and that side had plenty of talent and a reputation of countless wins and no losses,
1. Westville, College , Mhs ( will fight it out for top spot
2. GW , Kearsney , will be looking at best 3 , Kearsney make a habit of loosing that all important game to pull them over the top , but they certainly have the fire power
People will struggle to beat Glenwood this year, this may well be their only local loss and since they play tougher games than Kearsney they may well end up above Kearsney in the rankings even though Kearsney will probably be the best team in kzn for 2013.(2014 won’t be as kind for them though)
College u15A’s beat George Campbell 64-0
Moment of the day for an ex prop like me: Seeing the Glenwood No 3 step inside the Kearsney centre, avoid another backline defender and bash his way through and score a great try!!!
@GreenBlooded: hey , i respect your ability to be tolerant , maybe the wrong word, on the one point loss, I just don’t think GW should be losing that’s all , as brash and opinionated as that sound its true . god help me now with the oncoming tsunami of comments , but hey by the time it reaches me it will be a ripple??
@GreenBlooded: i hope he recovers , i like him and the way he playes , carefully nutured he will be outstanding , just hope he can settle his injuries ,
@Green Hopper: Curtis played 2nds. From what I saw he is the choice flyhalf but has picked up his second injury of the season. Not nice seeing a player like that being supported off by 2 team-mates unable to walk.
@Green Hopper: Again – I’m not too fussed about this one point loss. It could have gone either way – Kearsney and Glenwood were 2 very well matched teams. There was far more positive than negative about yesterday and looks good for Glenwood going into the Festivals. You would have thought so too had you not been half a world away – I was there so trust me on this. Seeing that backline in action was something to see. No doubt Sean has made a list of key points to work on this week and it will be sorted out come festival time.
@beet: Dont you trust the scores that I gave you on GCB?
@GreenBlooded: i didn’t see Curtis in the original line up , ? i think this boy has real talent , but that’s twice he has been hurt in the last three weeks , they will need to look at him and maybe play him carefully over the next few weeks, Bring in Mcuma to flyhalf and rotate them till he steps up and makes the transition , he was only under 16 last year , it will take him a game or tow and selected game to get him to possible adjust
@Grasshopper: lovely age for a daughter, isnt it , you sit with them at that time of teh morning and they are so awake , special moments
@Grasshopper:i stated there , what i felt , i get critical yes, why , because we could be so much better , it’s simple, when you go to the school and see these boys, and you’re an old boy so you must feel it even more , it’s the best school in Natal , but get tarnished with the petty politics of school and the SBR politics ,
Look at Grey , look at this polished side , whilst I am sure there are politics its not on the scale we see here, but when you see this school, the boys the attitude , the professionalism , this is why so many of them are in our super 15 sides and national team and why they are the best school side year in year out ,
However GW has been plagued with interschool purchasing , or at least accused of it, and now we potentially had two schools not play us this year , thankfully its only one, and its the one school we need to play this year to claim top honours , I don’t state the negative , I point out the factors or areas that need , and admittedly these are my opinions and might not bear weight with others , but I can assure you , 80% of what I predicted had to do with the loss we suffered on Saturday , and don’t kid yourself , Glenwood don’t take loosing as an option, Sean don’t put boys out there to have fun, He goes so far as to buy players from schools North to ensure he maintains ascendency , and the top position ,
Let’s be open about it , this isn’t going down well in KZN , is it , we have school revolts and schools not playing us, this is all negatively , not be making a few choice words about selections and game play , forget the notion that we support regardless, because if we took that course of action GW would soon find themselves in a lowly position and battling to fill the school with pupils , and we all know where that leads too.
Kids come to GW for the sport the parents bring the kids for this reason , so winning is a must , it’s a question of how much you wish to sacrifice your soul to be there , bet true to yourself, look at what beet wrote , this year’s 1st team is 100% of boys that started in grade 8 , can we honestly say the same, of GW ? it’s hard and harsh yes , but its open and honest , I will forever advocate this position , , I would like to see someone with time to see what percentage of 1st teams this year are 100% of boys from grade 8 and where they lie at the end of the season , I think it might surprise a few of us ,
What I can honestly say , is that since 2008 , and mid you it’s a off the cuff remark, but for me the 2008 team was brilliant , but I bet you more of that team started at GW in grade and it’s been a falling percentage over the years since and so has the assertiveness, you are full of stats , I dare you to prove me wrong
2012 was just more poignant as it was highlighted by Marne , but this year is just as bad and could after these festivals get worse
@greenhopper, nope 5 and its because of my 6 month old baby girl :-)
@GreenBlooded: hi there , mate Glenwood first team has for teh years i have watched that two common problems
1. Throwing the ball in straight at line out time
2. Handling errors in the backline
This has been a common thread in their play since god created the earth , another thinking about it now has been the tackling , I have said for years and I it’s written in previous threads of mine, Glenwood boys don’t tackle that well, and this is where College are the best , I have constantly said , before giving these boys the ball , send the WHOLE school down to the field and teach them to tackle for a week ,
So they must have played the perfect Glenwood type of game?? Lol how was the mountain biking this morning
@ grasshopper , you must have been up since 3.00 am thsi morning , I know greenblooded, likes to ride his bike so is up early
@greenhopper, mate lets try look for the positives in the Glenwood performance, support the guys and not always state the negative. A 1 point loss in the final minutes to a potential top 10 side in the 1st local game of the season is not bad. Michaelhouse lost to Glenwood by a point early season 2012 but ended top of the pile by the end of it. I feel more positive about 2013 than 2012. Good luck boys for next week, glad the Framesby fixture was played early as now its just 2 games before KERF. Go Green! Go Glenwood!
Meant to be not tone, fat fingers!
@Beet, I would vote for you tone that independent selector, although the whole side might come from Kearsney then ;-)
@Green Hopper: UnGlenwood – Beet is probably refering to the handling errors and small mistakes early on. Early season blues – that’s all.
If I could point at one shortcoming that Glenwood had on the day it would be not making the first time tackles. Far too often a Kearsney player brushed through one or two tackles before being brought down or carried the tackler for 10-15 m without going to ground.
Someone said the Glenwood forwards were dominated and that scoreline flattered Glenwood – I don’t agree. This was school rugby at it’s best and as close as it gets. Both teams ran the ball from anywhere – ball spinning out to the wings all the time. Glenwood know where the mistakes were – it is just a case of brushing up on a few things but there is much to be excited about with this team. The one pity is that Curtis Jonas was carried off the field after an injury to his left leg. What a pity – this guy has so much flair. Let’s hope he is not one of those injury-prone players.
@Westers: I’m so happy to hear that Reece played well. Last year he should have walked into the KZN Academy Week team yet somehow did not even get invited to final trials. It was a huge oversight.
Our problem in KZN remains. We need at least one independent school selector who is free to go around and watch the players in action on Saturdays so that the best players within the Craven Week and Academy Week selection criteria end up at final trials.
@Tandem: That one was the wrong way around. Jeppe is the team that is looking strong.
@Rhino @PlayFlair, The Westville Hilton game was a tight affair with both teams capable of winning it until the last few minutes. Both teams played well in patches but also made a lot of mistakes. Werstville were disrupted by an injury to their hooker in the first few minutes of the game whilst Hilton lost two players (6 & 13) just before halftime. Westville were first on the scoreboard with a penalty. Hilton then scored a try under the poles following a mistake by the Westville backline, pounced on by the Hilton no. 13 who raced from the Westville 10m line to score. Westville then scored a try from a charge down in the in-goal area right under the poles. A further penalty by Westville gave them a 13 – 7 lead at half time. Hilton kicked a penalty early in the second half to reduce Westvilles lead. Hilton then had two further opportunites to kick penalties and opted for lineouts and on both occassions the Westville defense kept them out. With about five minutes to go Westville made the game safe. A well judged kick over the top by McHardy wasn’t dealt with by the Hilton full back and wing who left it to bounce and it did so kindly for the Westville fly half who siezed his opportunity from 5m out to go over under the poles.
Although both teams still have a lot of room to improve it was an enthralling game of SBR. The real losers were the people who left at half-time to go to Kings Park to watch the Sharks.
On the question of Wright – McHardy, both had strong games. Wright reads the game very well and gets his backline moving with his slick passing. As captain he also carries an extra burden and on top of that he is first choice place kicker. His choice not to kick for poles on two occasions cost his side the opportunity to get on top in the second half. McHardy had a very good all round game and his well judged kick over the top proved at the end proved decisive. Individual honours pretty much even.
Is St John’s so strong this year or is Jeppe heading for a tough year ?
@Green Hopper:
Yeah their U16. I do feel sorry for them with all their problems though. I think they need someone really passionate about rugby, the school and sport in general. DHS have that in Marc Adam whom took over as head of sport in 2010. He has really made a difference at School.
Yeah true about pride there. On another note, seems DHS cappie is really making people talk soooo early about KZN U18 no.10 jumper.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: which is the dream team?? you mean the u16 , there is a common thread there between the 1st team and the u16 , look deeper and you will see the connection and then you will see the link to elsewhere and then know what all the hype, the rot goes a lot further than the average person can see
but once again you are right so much hype early season , in the Nite Series, and it will all unfold as the season rolls out ,
I think your 1st team and a few others will roll out well, having see some of the boys and having worked with them, there is a great vibe there, it just needs decent channelling and coaching and they will bring out results
For me , and I mean this in a sincere manner , it also start with personal pride , “how you strut your stuff” neatness and small issues like having clean gear and the right socks and small things like all having black boots ,
People might laugh at me on this issue , but pride like this brings out better results
@Green Hopper:
That is a lot of posts… But yeah N’Wood have definitely disappointed here. Early season talk was all about them winning games and attracting boys there but instead its been a disaster. Even their dream team isn’t having a great season so far
well results pretty much show what i had predicted , barring the close match with DHS , but a win is a win , I am sure they will improve and like the strategy of entering the season the way they have done,
a well-planned ramp up is just as important as game preparation IMHO , to build confidence and team spirit , just look at the Game of the Force and the Reds , the team spirit brought out commitment and a win, look at the Brumbies, how they have built up over the last year ,
I personally think that GW approach in big games as a start of the season has ripple effects right through the season, also boys and bodies aren’t 100% game fit and injuries that occur and niggle throughout the season as well as the mental lose effects teams and you will see this in the GW results over the next two weeks,
And you won’t see a win rate of more than 20 % by this team over this period, and it’s going to have an effect ,
And no I am not bashing the side as people might think , I am just reading it as honestly as I can
@beet: what do you mean looked so “unGlenwood” and then changed , that must mean , that they tried the backline in the first half and then reverted to the bash and smash of the forwards , as thsi is typical GW
Reading here it looks like the KC forwards dominated and the use of the KC backline finished off for them? and that the GW backline made many handling errors, thsi would have resulted in GW going back to what they know best and is habitual and that is keep in in the forwards, but if they had apity here it woudl have been difficult ? for GW to have made inroads
@sharkie: i thought as much , how did the half backs play
@beet: for a 1st team game, this is below par, especially when so much has been made of the Northwood pack and especially the Front row, with this kid from here with thisback ground and all the blaaa blaa blaaa , etc etc
and this before they even meet College, Glenwood and Westville etc , seriously, having seen some of the team in action before , and read all teh hype after the Port Natal Series, i think NW took too much out of this and are going to have a very hard season
Said it thsi week and last year and again now, you reep what you sow , and the underhanded removal of Barry Wilson is bringing these results, and its not the boys /players fault it goes much deeper hand higher than this
@GreenBlooded: THEY GOT BEATEN????? prity much worse than they thought hey? lol,
the Coach for MH in my opinion is astute as you get them, flies below the radar and has teh right temperment , no flash , i think thats why since he has been the coach he has achieved amazing results, time for him to step up to Craven week Coach , IMHO
Kearsney forwards dominated glen wood kearsney back line especially the fullback were brilliant but at times just couldnt finish. Glen wood left wing was dangerous and every time they attacked down the left side they were very impressive. The score margin was somewhat flattering but good on gw to come back as they did they will be a tough sidemto beat
@kcob: where do you think the game was won or lost , what areas ?
@Grasshopper: This was supposed to have been the match of the day @greenblooded and @ pedantic would have had a lot of interest in this game, good result
So, who won between Wright and Mchardy, Gw and KC no 15’s?
Need to watch this Kearsney side play, seems to be worth it. Hopefully they play well at KERF and carry the KZN schools.
This year IMO will probably see one of the most talented KZN U18A Craven Week sides
All talk of the Kearsney backs, how did the Glenwood backs go?
@Sir Pius: Hey Pius. Always great to meet up with you mate. Your cricketers did very well and yes the Kearsney fullback Lines was sensational I want to say today but he had outstanding matches at the KZN Top Schools and against Northwood last week as well.
I must say I had a lovely afternoon up at Kearsney with Beet. Today’s game will probably go down as the best game in KZN this year. What was more impressive was the number of tries scored and it was a clean game. Well done to both sides for a good game of rugby. Rupert Kay led his troops well and they never gave up, but the revelation for Kearsney was Chris Lines who ran good lines and threatened every time he got the ball. It was nice seeing my two boys (Tristan Tedder and Tyler Smith) putting in big tackles. This Kearsney side is a great side.
@Greenblooded: Very tough day. 1st team played some really good rugby, but were outgunned by one of the best back lines I’ve seen so far. Forward contest was very even until midway through 2nd half. U14 lost 17-10 and U16 drew 22-22. From the teams we’ve played or seen so far, house are the ones to beat.
Well done to Kearsney! A pity the game was so early season but hey you have to start somewhere. Hopefully Glenwood learn from this and put in good performances at Pukke next week and KERF the week after. Well done to all the A sides winning away. Look forward to seeing all the results.
@beet:
DHS 2nd XV beat Pinetown 1st XV 18-5
Well done Westville – Deccent result ! anyone see the game and how it panned out?
@GreenBlooded: I heard they had a tough afternoon up on the Meadows. Home team won battle of the frontrows.Uncontested scrums in the end.
I had an awesome afternoon up at Kearsney. Super match preceded by 2 good games on the main field.
I must say, in my opinion the better 1st team on the day won but tremendous character shown by both teams. Glenwood looked so unGlenwood in the first half, yet changed at just 13-10 down. Kearsney with time running out produced a near perfect end play to score altho to be fair it started from a GM error.
Hey guys. Thank you very much for all the scores. Have updated all the info provided and will add the St Albans vs Bennies shortly
The silence from north of the Umgeni River is deafening this evening. What happened up in Balgowan today?
@GreenBlooded:
Yeah I’ve been told about them. They also have their danger men and as you’ve said a very good backline with an excellent halfback combination but I do think they are just behind in the pecking order.
Was surprised to see WBHS U14A losing to Hilton
@HORSEFLY NO.1: College U14A also looking good – very good backline and some nice physical forwards. Beat Campbell 63-duck today.
@GreenBlooded:
DHS U14A will only really be tested at Bizsport. They did play without captain and 8th man Sean Barnes whom is a big influence on them .
I think their biggest test will be against Glenwood
@Grasshopper: The U16A result was probably a bit flattering to Glenwood. A suspect try (depending who’s supporters you speak to) not given by an un-sighted ref could have seen Kearsney a bit closer than that but Glenwood definately deserved the win. At the end I think the constant pounding took a toll on the Kearsney boys who had to tackle their hearts out in a match where they had no possession – lost all but 1 of their own lineouts. For Glenwood – a lot of handling errors and wrong options taken. Put it down to early season blues for now but from what I saw today they need a lot of work to get to the level of their reputation.
@kcob: You are spot on. What a spectacle – I almost feel sorry for those who went and sat in the rain at Kings Park!!
I thought that both teams would take a conservative approach and play percentage rugby given the significance of the encounter but it was not to be. Both teams were willing to run the ball from anywhere and play some really creative rugby and the forwards from both sides was as physical as it gets. A lot of handling errors from both teams (more from Glenwood actually) and the Glenwood coach will no doubt get the tackle-bags out on Monday – multiple missed tackles saved by some great cover defence.
Must also say a great example of how to referee a high-profile match by Blake Beatie – really becoming the consumate professional. We will see him reffing Super 15 in the next 2 seasons I’m sure.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: I did not see the U14A game but from what I hear there were another 2 or 3 tries that went begging due to fumbles within 5m of the line so scoreline of 20-25 would have been more realistic.
Very impressed by the skill levels in the lower Glenwood teams. I think the myth that Glenwood only concentrates on the A teams has been de-bunked. Some very good rugger on display on Stott as well as the outer fields today.
@Grasshopper:
Yeah U16 should, College could cause an upset though and if Northwood stop playing their bash rugby they could also do it.
Lol yip I’m confident. The Glenwood U15s are already talking about their match vs DHS as a season defining match. They’ll be pretty chuffed beating a pretty good Kearsney side though( only won 8-7 last year)
Boys, best school boy rugby seen in many many years! Well done Glenwood and well done Kearsney really good day out! Kearsney had the ascendency I think but GW definitely capitalize. Kearsney well done and what a team effort!
More importantly the Under16a’s should go unbeaten in KZN. Not sure what is going to happen vs DHS at under14 and 15, you seem very confident…
@Grasshopper:
Yeah Porties do have about 6 or so games behind them though and a not too bad side this year.
Yeah Glenwood had a great day today bar the most important game.
I have a feeling that your U14A and U15A sides will go unbeaten in KZN all the way till they face DHS…
Horsie, tight one there against Porties but a win is a win. Glenwood’s day spoilt by a one point loss, anyway shows plenty to look forward to this year and in the future. Kearsney could be a top 10 side at full strength…
@GreenBlooded:
Well done GW. Also well done to the u14 team for keeping Kearsney scoreless
U14A – GW 15 KC 0
U15A – GW 17 KC 10
U16A – GW 17 KC 5
2nd – GW 13 KC 9
1st GW 25 KC 26
U14A MC 63 GC 0
1st MC 39 GC 10
@Vleis:
Yeah Glenwood U14 of last year whom are on a par with DHS lost 30-0 to Monnas so there is quite a gap there.
Think the talent in kzn is too evenly spread
Wow, heard Glenwood lost in the last minute again! Well it happened the other way around the few years before so you win some you lose some. It must have been a cracker though and as I predicted Kearsney is the team to beat in KZN.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: It is possible as DHS won all their games, whereas Helpmekaar and Jeppe drew with each other….so “dropped points”, as it were.
No doubt about it that DHS u15 is a very classy team, but they would really struggle against the powerhouse schools up North like Monnas, Affies, Waterkloof, Menlo, etc. That said, Rome wasn’t built in a day…so far so good for the Horseflies.
Kearsney 26 Glenwood 25. Close one but a 2nd victory in a row for KC vs Glenwood nonetheless
@Henkies:
Nah had to bite my nails at home waiting for update after update
@Vleis:
I recently heard that DHS U14A of 2012 was voted as team of Parktown Fest last year which surprised me because Jeppe seemed to have blown all away by about 10-15 points more than DHS would
Final score Westville 20 Hilton 10
Jeepers Horsie that’s was close shave for us. Were you at the game ?
DHS Win 28-25 vs Porties. Good stuff especially after being in a bit of a pickle.
Onwards and upwards for School!!
half time DHS 6 PN15
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Looks like Helpmekaar have improved, or Menlo have declined, as Menlo u15A only beat Helpies by 21 to 7 today, whereas Menlo won by about 40 last year. It may have something to do with the National Athletics championships taking place next week, as Menlo have a large very quick centre who will very likely be taking part in said event.
@Anonymous:
Yeah it makes sense I guess. U15B also seem to be quite strong which is great, more depth!
Looking forward to seeing them compete at Bizsport, will be tough especially Helpmekaar.
…and I forgot to add that Saints u14 A beat KES u14A by 18 to 7. The only thing surprising about this result is the scoreline, as I was expecting a larger win for Saints given that they’ve ‘bought’ a large amount of the Lions u13 team from 2012 – most from a school in Alberton.
horsie our 15a were too strong. turned out to be a nice game for 15b though.
KES 1sts beat Saints 1sts by 22 to 21 and the u15A beat Saints by 22 to 11.
Jeppe 1sts beat St John’s 1sts by 59 to 24 and the u15A won by 38 to 7.
St Alban’s 1st team beat St Benedict’s 1st team by 26 to 25. They really should have won by much more. The u16 age group did not play as St Alban’s grade 8s are on “The Journey”. The u15A drew 12 all and the u14A lost to Bennies – not sure of the score, but it was not close.
GCB vs Duineveld 1st 52-13 and GCB Cherries/ Peaches vs Upington 1sts 62- 14
2nds Westville 6 Hilton 3
Results
U16A Glenwood 17 Kearsney 5
15A WBHS 24 Hilton 11
U14A WBHS 10 Hilton 13
@Westers:
What is U14A and U15A result?
DHS U16A lose 18-12
U 14 A Grey, 108 decl. 0
U16A Westville 19 Hilton 8
@Grasshopper:
Well done Glenwood. That was always going to be a tough game
Glenwood Under15A 17- Kearsney 10, Go Green!
@Anonymous:
Why is u15A not playing today? Good results so far i see..
Grey vs Duineveld U15 A 60-0
DHS u14a 66 portnatal 14a 0
DHS u15b 26 port natal 15a 0
result
Glenwood u14A beat Kearsney 15-0
Its not GCBs 2nd team, the Cherries playing Upington, but the Peaches, the 3rd team. That is according to their FB.
@Umtata: No doubt it will be interesting against Queens and Selborne. Also just want to say that the score yesterday doesn’t really reflect the score. Kingswood definitely played better than the score suggested.
@Mike: GreyHigh will be tested properly by the time April ends. I want to see how GreyHigh does against their EC bogey teams( Queens and Selborne). Maybe Dale can pull of a miracle in KWT and win
I was at the game this afternoon. Really don’t want to take anything away from Kingswood because I think they have one of their better sides this year, but to be honest it seemed that Grey played at 50 percent of their potential. They had the full team their but I think Grey played at about 50 percent of their potential today. If this game had been played maybe 5 or 6 games in to the season I’d add another 20 points to the score in Grey’s favour. Got some quality loosies and a very quick right wing that scored two today on debut.
@Grasshopper: that’s a huge margin, especially considering that it was in Gtown. I still think Kingswood will have a good season. Remember this is a co-ed school with about 260 boys and they don’t all play rugby
A bit of a one sided affair between Kingswood and Grey PE, especially after all the talk of Kingswood being a dark horse. Grey PE must have a really good side…