| TIME | DATE | SCHOOL | SCHOOL | EVENT | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sat.23Jul | Maritzburg College | 7 | 59 | Affies | ||
| Sat.23Jul | St Andrew’s | 14 | 14 | Marlow | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Pearson | 10 | 15 | Graeme | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Grey HS | 45 | 17 | Framesby | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Westering | – | – | Cambridge | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Hudson Park | 17 | 34 | Selborne | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Kingswood | – | – | Daniel Pienaar | Postponed | |
| Sat.23Jul | Woodridge | 8 | 7 | Muir | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Queen’s | 105 | 20 | Port Rex | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Brandwag | 32 | 14 | Despatch | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Diamantveld | 36 | 28 | Fichardtpark | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Louis Botha | – | – | Jim Fouche | ||
| Sat.23Jul | AHS Kroonstad | 80 | 0 | Kroonstad | ||
| Sat.23Jul | HTS Sasolburg | – | – | Hentie Cilliers | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Goudveld | 29 | 19 | HTS Welkom | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Voortrekker (Beth) | 10 | 22 | Welkom Gim | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Noord-Kaap | – | – | Upington | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Parktown | 24 | 17 | Jeppe | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Helpmekaar | 23 | 22 | Garsfontein | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Pretoria BH | 19 | 50 | KES | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Menlopark | 48 | 10 | Zwartkop | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Ben Vorster | 26 | 21 | Pietersburg | Limpopo Big Schools Final | |
| Sat.23Jul | Transvalia | 23 | 33 | Vereeniging Gim | Valke Big Schools Final | |
| Sat.23Jul | Ligbron | 27 | 17 | Secunda | Pumas Big Schools Final | |
| Sat.23Jul | Linden | 15 | 10 | Dinamika | Lions Big Schools Final | |
| Sat.23Jul | Oos-Moot | 24 | 5 | Pretoria-Noord | Bulls Big Schools Final | |
| Sat.23Jul | Potch Volkskool | 36 | 42 | Lichtenburg | Leopards Big Schools Final | |
| Sat.23Jul | Rustenburg | 55 | 7 | Die Anker | Beeld Macro Playoff | |
| Sat.23Jul | Kempton Park | 0 | 0 | Noordheuwel | Beeld Macro Playoff | |
| Sat.23Jul | Nelspruit | 20 | 26 | HTS Middelburg | Pumas Macro Final | |
| Sat.23Jul | Bellville | 7 | 47 | SACS | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Bishops | 19 | 47 | Boland Landbou | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Brackenfell | 25 | 22 | Hermanus | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Oakdale | 19 | 41 | Paarl Gim | ||
| Sat.23Jul | HJS Paarl BH | 25 | 6 | Rondebosch | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Paul Roos | 50 | 5 | Wynberg | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Durbanville | 24 | 19 | Worcester Gim | ||
| Sat.23Jul | Strand | 12 | 46 | Swartland | ||
| Sat.23Jul | De Kuilen | 5 | 36 | Stellenberg | ||
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@VanniLaeveld: In antwoord op #26:
Ek sal graag wil weet wie hierdie sogenaamde Monnas ‘Scouts’ was wat vir hierdie o16 Speler die “considerable” pakket aangebied het…
Ek was deel van die Monnas groep wat op dag 1 en 2 die o13 Cravenweek bygewoon het. Ons het geen van die Pumas se o16 wedstryde gesien of bygewoon nie. Monnas werf ook geen speler na gr 8 nie.
Gee asb ‘n naam van hierdie sogenaamde “scout” asook meer inligting van die pakket wat hy aangebied is. Ek is seker ons Rugby bestuur by die skool sal graag daarvan wil weet.
@Flanker: and somewhere in between lies the truth ………..
@Grasshopper: Hahaha…do you really want to open this tank of anacondas, Grassy?
@beet: Yes Glade went Kes last year only.
Those players were’nt documented because it was fine we understood they were offered a better deal. What ticked the headmaster off was the fact that Kes manipulated the boys to lie, it wasnt their fault maybe their father couldnt resist the deal he was given and it happened. Kes didnt let us know because they know that we wouldve had a better offer because they are such influential players. The worst thing is that Whilst at Parktown they were training with Kes. So they basically had preseason at two different schools. I dont think they should of sanctioned kes because we are stronger than the old days
@Roger: between Dale & KES for decades too ?
@beet: @Flanker: I had no idea Glade was ever at Parktown either – upon making enquiries I believe he left Parktown halfway through his grade eight year. A story not a lot of people are aware of is that Wayne Ferreira was at KES until halfway through his grade 10 year. He left and went to Parktown and spent all of two terms there before leaving school to concentrate on tennis. If you ask him where he went to school he will tell you Parktown …….
Kids moving between KES, Parktown, Jeppe, St John’s, St Stithians etc has been happening for decades – and not always because of rugby
@Flanker: Geez. The twins case is well documented but did those other players go from Parktown to KES as well
@GreenBlooded: That’s good news, thanks for the update.
Affies vs Glenwood 30 Julie 2016
O/14 A Verloor 19-31
O/14 B Wen 25-17
O/14 C Wen 48-0
O/14 D Wen 65-7
O/14 E Wen 86-3
O/15 A Wen 23-14
O/15 B Wen 35-7
O/15 C Wen 74-0
O/15 D Wen 80-0
O/16 A Verloor 12-30
O/16 B Geltykop 10-10
O/16 C Wen 74-0
O/16 D Wen 55-0
7 des Wen 89-0
6 des Wen 49-10
5 des Wen 49-0
4 des Wen 29-0
3 des Wen 33-17
2 des Wen 57-14
1 stes Wen 63-0
Gespeel: 20
Gewen: 17
Verloor; 2
Gelykop: 1
Punte vir: 975
Punte teen: 160
Gemiddelde Telling: 49-8
@Ringo: The Mpekus would have helped us win those silly lost games beause injury made us loose against Hilton at the fest. I mean 6 first team players out cost us that game. But its fine we could have beat kes with or without the Mpekus. The only reason we sanctioned Kes was to stop the poaching because whenever we do beat them or have tight games we loose alot of key players. 2014 we lost Michael Moyo kes former first team scrumhalf 2015 Keagan glade now playing SA schools B. 2016 We lost the twins who we looked after and supported. from 2015 Kennedy was good enough to play first team but we didnt want to put stress and pressure on him
@Roger: It was’nt an upset we knew we were going to beat them. I mean the whole team was aged 16 when we lost 18-12 to kes and 12-6 to jeppe in 2014. They all played first team before the Boksmart u16 rule. Both wings have played first team for 3 years and have lions colors. The flyhalf is phenomenal he is the one who single handedly beat kes by contributing 15 points last year when we beat kes. He is like a Green(from jeppe) but with extra vision. He cross kicked the ball so high from the halfway mark and the wing caught it in the tryline and all he had to do was fall. He breaks lines in every game. We almost beat Grey highschool when we had our full first team( no injuries). we were beating affies 7-0 13 minutes into the game, then some second team players went on and things weren’t smooth anymore.
@Ringo: I say jeppe could loose a 3rd straight game (Parktown, This game that was lost today and they’ll loose to Kes because Hajivah Wandi and Green will be missing ). Thats how kes won last year. We have been having close games with Jeppe it was now time. 2014 lost by 6 points, last year we had a 15-3 lead by half time but lost 20-27 we scored three tries you guys scored 2.
@Roger: That’s the thing with Kes vs Jeppe fixures they never truly are reflective because players are away or injured. The better team looses because they have more SA representatives. I say You are to stop Wandisie and Green from running and you have won the game, exactly what parktown did. we close his space with two tacklers so if he stepped one he’d be on another players shoulder and green is just too quick. But thats if they play.
@Bush:
Just did some social media stalking. He’s still alive and well and living in Durban apparently.
@Grasshopper: What you complaining about Hopper? GW have 2nd and 3rd team players in Craven Week. Love you Hopper
@GreenBlooded: In the late 80’s and early 90’s they had a tournament that was held at GW and College. I saw him score an amazing try against Dale College. Street fighter of note for sure, story of him knocking out about 4 okes using his motorbike helmet. Strange he just disappeared off the radar.
@Quagga: Today it is Grey Bloem vs Grey PE…next week the Paarl Derby and then Oakdale vs Boland on 13th Aug.
@Bush:
He was indeed. I remember what Toppy wrote about him in the year book – something about his ability to read the game combined with aggression and pace. He was in a class of his own. Bit of a ruffian though – street fighter of legendary status.
Oakdale vs Marlow Live on SS5 @ 12:50. Hope the ‘Wolramme’ show that characteristic ‘broers’ passion of theirs against a very powerful Oakdale side. Marlow one of those teams capable of punching well above their weight. Good luck to the teams.
@Gungets Tuft: 96, they even had posties in the 2nds and 3rds…
@GreenBlooded: What ever happened to Warren. Fok? He was a machine???
@Bush: Working my #rse off at the moment, literally pulling 16 hour days for about 4 or 5 months, not going to ease off any time soon. Times are tough economically, so I’m lucky to be busy I reckon, so it’s not a complaint.
Taking a rare evening off, but afraid you’re going to have to deal with your polony on your own.
@Gungets Tuft: WTF have you been? Come grab a wors polony with me. For fucks sakez
@Grasshopper: Which year was it that you played against the House post-matric okes? That was around the time of SM, yes?
@GreenBlooded: just checking, makes them 23 then.
@Bush: Both those okes matriculated with me in ’88. Both only plugged one year. No ways Senekal was 21. 19 at best. Same for Groupe. #justsaying
Hi guys. Major fixtures for tomorrow published somewhere?
@Grasshopper: No, just couldn’t afford Salami.?????. Love you Hopper
@Bush: you seem to love your polony, taking a lot of it seems more the case.
@Grasshopper: Hopper, before you throw you stick. Which you call a boomerang. I’m part of the real world, at ground level. With the okes that break rocks on the front, not behind my computer rolling polony. Love you Hopper.
@Grasshopper: Yes on your point about playing First Team, how the hell did that KD scrum half from College not make it????? Oh he only played 1st Team for College not 1st team for GW. A flank at GW playing Scrum Half, come on. Please roll my polony. Glad you back Hopper, it’s not the same without you.
@Bush: you private school okes are such a laugh, haven’t got a clue about the real world out there. Living in cloud cuckoo land where daddy gives you a monthly allowance. Gov. schools like Glenwood, Westville, College etc are doing some amazing things and the privates are just jealous of their achievements so like to pick holes and find fault.
@Grasshopper: Hopper, let’s not forget about Pieter Senekal (21) Warren Groupe, best flank KZN has even had(Family man) how many stones do you want me to throw? It’s not about what you are trying to prove. I’m stoked for your school. At what cost???? House could do the same thing in a blink of an eye. Hilton the same. Does it make the calibre of person better. No. House I think realized that when they brought in 5 Grey Bloem boys. Nobody wanted to play them, nobody has acted the same about GW. (Sorry except the Prison Boys) we love what you are doing. I will vote for you on Wednesday. Love you Hopper
@Bush: just an FYI, all the Glenwood players picked in the CW & AW teams have played 1st team this season, so there are no 3rd or 2nd team players in the squads. Once you get a 1st team cap always a 1st team player…
@Bush: secretly you hoping AFFIES pump Glenwood by 50 plus, that is what you really feel.
@Bush: Westville give out twice the number of bursaries but House okes have no problem with them, double standards come to mind. Hilton poach the Ville scrummie no issues…..
@Bush: I know all about it, having to shake 19 and 20 year old Post matric House hands after getting pumped. Funny how House okes forget that decade of bullocks!
@Grasshopper: The thing is. I have. The problem is they destroy kids dreams. It’s not about the score at the end of the day, but how you shake your opponents hand. Good luck. Love you Hopper
@Bush: you need to move on from your obssessive hatred for Scumbilo. I know it’s hard to be klapped by lower grade scum but you need to move on.
@Grasshopper: 400 boys 200 beds, 1200 boys 8000 promised bursaries. Ummmmm what do I do???????????????
@BOG: Bloem by 30!
Battle of the Greys: 14:55 on SS5 and 18:35 on SS1
@knowthegame: that’s a dumbass comment…
@Bush: an rain obvious did not help prep
@knowthegame: nope, Monnas just played very well on the day. I don’t think many sides could have beaten them that day. Everything just worked for them. Point is it didn’t help having to get up at 3am to catch an early flight up to JHB. I heard the Monnas side actually checked into a hotel for the Friday night, vastly different preparation. Monnas outplayed Glenwood on the day, well done to them.
@knowthegame: what excuse?
@Greenman: You were really unlucky against Monnas…if you travelled better you would have won
@Bush: Affies by 20! Imagine the carnage if it was House there tomorrow…80 plus!
@Grasshopper: another kak excuse
Good luck to GW tomorrow, hope the Last Outpost flag will rage in the wind. I don’t think it will be close. GW have had a long break with no rugby. But then your 2nd and 3rd team did play Craven Week.
Affies to win by 30 points
@Greenman: good, so they should be arriving in Pretoria soon ?
Old and still cheetah supporter. Can and have lost many a time but love that odd one when you least expect it.
@Grasshopper: Driving up. Left 4h30 this morning. The Monnas trip was a disaster.
@Greenman: do you know if the 1sts are going up by bus today or flying? If they flying lets hope they don’t make the same mistake with Monnas and arrive Sat morning before the game….
@BrotherBear: tongue and cheek! Sure it is going to be great. Both sides have lost this year so nothing to defend but honour. Klub 600 a good spot afterwards to reflect.
@Greenman: Bugger – to get security involved is serious business ;-)
Are you sure those “aunties and uncles” are not double agents, trying to unnerve the Affies spectators with some shameful behaviour? Affies is really very meek (and well behaved) in comparison to some of the other Pretoria schools. In the Moot they sommer bliksem the ref after the (school) game. No place for sissies or “Hampton manners”. But then @Grasshopper has mentioned that Glenwood has its fair share of “Bluff boys”. Just no blood please.
Good luck with, what should be, a tough encounter.
@knowthegame: Blinkers? You the one with the prediction. I am just going for a great game of schoolboyrugby. You right, don’t call me a clown. That will fit me in with you. No tissues needed, can take whatever comes our way. That’s the privilege of a underdog!@BrotherBear: Yip, hope security can identify them early enough.
I am always optimistic. Looking forward to a great game.
@knowthegame: we don’t cry Boet if we lose, we roll with the punches. Realistically it’s Affies by 20, so if we can do better than that I’ll be stoked. We lost at home last year in the last minute so the boys will want a good performance.
@Greenman:For you humpty dumpty..Mr clown ok. The fact that you are equipped with blinkers is not my problem,enjoy the Affies game.I think it will be very close…haha.Buy yourself some 2 ply tissues…you going to need it.I will not call you a clown because it will be a insult to all other clowns
@Hooit: Ja ou swaerie is baie lief vir die danspassies later in die aand. Gholftoer was mooi. Die naam, Suipkus gholftoer gee die prioriteite van die toer weg. Dankie, laat maar weet
@Die Ken: Monnas vs MV 41 – 7. Praat baie met Gerber. Sy darts nogal goed afhangend van hoe laat ons al ‘begin’ het. Goeie golf ‘ toer’ gewees? Ek weet glad nie hoe Monnas die nuwe 10 wil gebruik nie. Weet of hy kwalifiseer om Beeld te speel vir Monnas nie. Sal jou op hoogte hou sodra n span aangekondig word.
@Greenman: Unfortunately a lost cause to keep “those” aunties and uncles away from school games. Every school has their unique representatives. You better be prepared; I understand she is bringing her family from Brits along this year.
@Speartackle: Jy moet maar n gps kry
@Hooit: O, en het jy toe met Gerber gepraat?
@Hooit: Wat was die Monnas-MV score? EK moet my resultatelys opdateer asb
@BuiteBreek: Spies het nie clue van wat aangaan in Vrede nie…daai Vrede truitjie lyk vir my baie soos n Linden-truitjie
@Hooit: Dankie vir die verduideliking, of nie. Groot poot beteken bra min in vandag se ruggas
AFFIES to win at home at altitude and with a game together under their belt after CW. Glenwood will not lie down though so it will be tough. Age group games will be super close too. Good luck to all the boys involved, do Glenwood proud!
@Greenman: She will be there this year again…teaching some boys manners that swear on the field…they took her handbag away though and replaced it with a wip
We are looking forward hosting GW….wishing all that travel a save trip!!!
@Speartackle: Dalk het jy gesien, maar ek lees op Netwerk24 n storie van n Matriekdogter van Vrede, wat baie mense twee keer sal laat dink oor hul gerieflike lewens. Wys erge deursettingsvermoe vir iemand so jonk. Well done meisiekind. Jou pad is oop vir jou.
@Speartackle: Xander het alreeds 3 games laas kwartasl gespeel en is reg. Weet nie wat hulle planne op 10 is nie. Weet ook nie Beeld reels ivm nuwe spelers nie. Nuwe 10 het teen Langley gespeel saam met Coke span en die man kan skop.
@Kattes-Strofes: the rain is sifting down…..the fire is lit all day. Dont think it was rust or holidays. I think its August creeping in. No matter what is said they are dwelling on the future. They need to play and get into it but they all gearing down to get ready. Unfortunately its not a rest game this weekend. SACS will be in their faces from the start to the end. Like every week this year every team has bitten into us. The kitchen is hot. This isnt a stew its a potjie….last I checked that takes 10 times longer with a few glasses in hand. I will pack in the umbrella its going to be messy.
@Greenman: goodluck to you guys unfortunately its not televised.
All I know is that it is going to be entertaining and may the best team/s wins. Just hope they have locked up that antie from last year so we can play in peace. Remember last year was not lekker. Must say if the Grey-Affies game spectator attitude is there on Saturday, it will be bliss.
Now there is two clowns on the forum. Boer$%%## we know but now joined by another who know F**&^L about the game calling himself knowthegame. What age of trolls do we live in!
I see in the latest SA Rugby magazine that Sacs is really up for Saturday’s match against Boishaai. This is certainly a possibility, and here I am not modest, giving the quaility of especially their forwards, and the fact that Boishaai is not firing on all cilinders after the school hollidays. Truly a banana skin, if ever there was one.
@BOG: It cleansing when it rains, all the kuk gets washed out to sea.
Thankfully, I only talk crap some of the time. Surprised that you have survived the Toti flood. Those waves were bigger than the ones on the beach. Anyway, it should wash away the cholera and the drug needles.
@Speartackle: You can always give it to one of those Aunties at Lords and Legends. That will be a lekker pick up line. Blow or suck????????
@Die Ken: Daar is nou blykbaar n nuwe 10 wat Monnas by Ben Vorster of Merensky gaan ‘werf’ het. Wonder wat gaan hulle nou doen want ek dink Luke Rossouw het goed gevaar op 10 en ek het dan gehoor dat Xander weer reg is en nou die dag senter gespeel het. Waar is Nooit dat hy ons kan info gee?
@Die Ken: Monnas het nie so ver gewen soos wat verwag is maar kan nie score onthou. Nee, ek spaar nog om daai laundromat te koop, verkoop nou eiendom hier maar ken nog nie die plek. Het nou die dag n klient n flat gaan wys, die kaart het iets soos Kingsburgh gesê toe dog ek dit is dalk daar naby Scottburgh. Toe verdwaal ek in Scottburgh en kry nie weer die highway terug Toti toe nie. What a disaster.
@Hooit: Beteken dit dat Xander Kruger nie die res van Beeld gaan speel nie? Ek neem aan, hy is dan nogsteeds beseer?
@knowthegame: Dis nou n blast from the past! Sy was lekker hot op haar dag, en oor die hoogspringlat ook
@Speartackle: Wat was die score tussen Monnas en MV net voor die vakansie, ek sien Beet se resultate wys niks nie? Tweedens, jy toe besluit om agter te bly in Toti, daai Laundromat gekoop?
@4×4: beides the u 14s affies will easily win the rest
glenwood hugely overrated
@Bush: I hope I don’t win a blow dryer cause I just shaved all my hair off
@Andre T: Thanks for the warning, it’s scramble drive comp. So he’ll have to behave or the team will throw him in the cholera invested Toti River. I hope he’s a team player
@Speartackle: Ons moet jou op daai nuwe gesels program kry-Op die Stoep
@Andre T: And that magents……is unfortunately a very true story
@McCulleys Workshop: Conversion to what?
@Bush: Are there bushes on Toti Golf Club cause you okes are going to spend a lot time searching for his balls. He never gives up looking for a ball. He once jumped into that crocodile pit at Lost City’s 13th to retrieve a ball and sometimes you’ll be playing the 8th already and then he’s still walking around the dam’s edge on the 5th. He doesn’t care about slow play and never lets anybody through and doesn’t have a golf bag, he carries his clubs in his hands, he’ll fart on your back swing and will sway his shadow over your ball whilst putting. Long long ago I played with him in a pro am at Wild Coast and our 2 pro’s were John Bland and Tertuis Claassens and he had a side bet against Claassens. On the 16th he bet Claassens he couldn’t hit that green for 2, Claasens then dunked 2 balls in the water and made 8. On the final hole, that par 4 over the ditch, he dropped his bag on Claassens back swing, Claassens duffed the ball into the river. Claassens had a downhill 4 footer for bogey and to make the cut, Spear walked up to him as he was already over his putt and whispered in his ear…..” don’t leave it short”…….Claassens rushed it 3 feet past the hole and missed the return to make 7.
That night I carried both of them to the room where they then started to hit drivers off the deck from the hotel room with the curtains open only a metre wide.
Crazy oak you are mixing with
@Bush: @Speartackle : Hopper, you got a guy to do Spears conversion? I spoke to the Twini priest and he wouldn’t help.
@Andre T: You should have posted your team for SA Schools, you could have won the grand prize. Speak to Spear maybe be needs a spotter. Spear said he’s converting his Bantam into a four seater golf cart. So there’s space
@knowthegame: Nee fnok ek het lanklaas golf gespeel. Gaan een van die dae weer n comeback maak.
If it was a league fixture i would have sent points if i was GW and then use the travel expense for flood relief, that’s my HUO
@4×4: cant be a cracker.Affies way too strong for GW
“Umbogotwene” is nou n shopping centre…ontwikkelaars moes klomp van my Dunlop DDH’s… daar gekry het. Ape ook jou balle op fairviews op getel…those were the days.Ek dink Charmaine Gale toe nog op Dirkie Uys…..
@Andre T: andre speel jy nog van scratch af?
@Andre T:
You better bring a canoe.
@Bush: I am visiting Spear in Toti next week, can I also get a golf game with you blokes?
@4×4:
@GreenBlooded: Perhaps you should refrain from averring that a shit load of KZN’ers will be making their way Pretoria this weekend….a good case may be make out that they are just visiting home for the weekend
The Affies-GW game will be a cracker. I am of the opinion that GW may be dominant in the under age groups but Affies will be Champs in the open age groups.
@Speartackle: I’ve been recruiting Creole talent for the week. While I was gone you guys were overcome by pods and triads!
@GreenBlooded: is this on tv? As a Clash?
@GreenBlooded: They dance on the ceilings at Lords and Legends. Still operating??????
@Speartackle: @Bush:
Ja – The mighty Green Machine vs Affies and across the road College vs PBHS. That a shite-load of KZN’ers in Pretoria this weekend. Perhaps we are going to stage a coup?
Speaking of Vrede – I drove past it today but a truck was overtaking me so I missed it. Vrede, Standerton, Bethal, Witbank. A soutie like me venturing that far behind the boerewors curtain is not healthy.
How is Toti? Bliksem – I saw the photos. I guess Lords and Legends will be out of commission for a while.
@Speartackle:I forgot about the GW vs Affies game this weekend. Must be cabin fever too scared to venture out my house. Should be a great outing. Affies were on song against College.
I smashed a hole in my canoe on the way home yesterday, busy fixing it up tonight. Will drop your prize off on my way past Toti tomorrow.
@Bush: Thanks Bushie…I cant think of a more deserved winner.
Where has Beet disappeared to? Maybe he is a national selector now along with Big Al. Isn’t it Affies vs Glenwood this weekend? Maybe Hopper is doing secret sessions with GW or with Green Mamba.
Where is your mate McCulleys?
@Speartackle: Lekker Spear, your knowledge of school boy rugby is outstanding. You won the pot, (not pot that Hopper rolls in the daily newspaper). You get a free round of golf at Toti Country Club and your bantam serviced at Glenwood Service Station. Couldn’t have been won by a better person???????
@Prlgim: you correct he doesn’t miss…
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Remember we don’t take our penalties so you imply Fiela will miss a conversion No chance Try again
When will we see the rankings after the matches of 23rd ?
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: can I take that now? I will happily take it without playing….
@odie15: Jip
Brave man, i know
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: that your prediction?
@Speartackle: Net partykeer in George, ai Spies…lees my ‘threads’…
@odie15: 16-12 to Paarl Boys.
@Speartackle: yes straight from the base is correct time. Unfortunately these kids seeing Smith and top scrummies doing it. They believe it creates space. My hands were whipped when I played if it wasnt crisp enough never mind a step. My u15 coach liked a dive pass….my mom didnt hehehe our fields were pure mud in 80s.
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Jy is in George
@bloedwors: Ek is ook in die stad, koffie sal lekker wees
@odie15: I can’t handle a 9 that takes one or two paces before he passes. Those 2 seconds are vital and sadly I saw that a lot at CW. If a 9 doesn’t pass immediately he should break cause those 2/3 metres that he covered automatically prevents any straight running and makes defence very easy.
The other thing that scares me is how the chosen SA School wings, escpecially Muller du Plessis and Mavovane, carry the ball under the wrong arm even when one of them get coached by an ex Bok winger.
@Ploegskaar: @bloedwors: morning all my coffee is going down well alyhough alone. I am not a fan of pod rugby….I believe its what has caused the downfall of SA rugby. Somehow coaches have lost the idea that your biggest space off lineouts…..yes you can create a little with PD and Pods. But the biggest problem that comes with it is pods blocking the flyhalf. I want flyhalves running the game not scrummy and forwards. Scrummies like Joost were the links to backs but had instinct of space when they could exploit it. But primary focus was quick clean ball to backs.
@Ploegskaar: jou 80/19/1 analise verwys
Hoe nader die spanne aan mekaar is, hoe groter raak die 1, en die heel belangrikste is natuurlik interpretasie van man in middel. ( soos Bloedwors tereg hierbo sê)
Ploegskaar, I think we have just lost the whole blog, very interesting suggestions…come have coffee soon. The problem for Gym is that Boishaai will take their points every time and we will chance our arm, like last year when we did not take 3 points just before half time…it cost us the game…its in our Dna though we like to play at pace..totally agree,that we should play a bit less…I am curious to see what Sean comes up with for this game, I am sure he would have something up his sleeve…i think The one area where Gym is stronger is 9, 10 12…it’s going to be an awesome battle..
@bloedwors: @Kattes-Strofes: @Carl de Kock aka Calamari: @Ploegskaar: Something thats not been said is this is 2 unbeaten sides this year in WP league playing. That is if they manage to win this weekend.
@Ploegskaar: a slight shift in mindset on attack could blow things apart. Like Takkies’ try vs Grey. Also hope they get the long studs out. Those bright bladed boots no use in good old fashioned mud.
Anyone from Snor-Stad: hows the rain been up there? Any chance of the PBHS vs College matches going ahead this weekend? Just seen a video of the lads from the leafy burbs paddling around Bowdens in a canoe!! Seriaaaas. As for Toti – the place is s wreck and that’s not even taking into account Spear and Bush’s presence there.
@odie15: Agreed would interchange him more with 10 on A plays down the blind or 10m onwards, but that is not the way that this team plays. Boeta, if fully fit at 10, is off course also an option, would definitely add a new dimension, but suppose unlikely with the teams conservative approach
@bloedwors: Just a plebs’ analysis, but I do enjoy the technical side of the game, 80% of the game is won on good analysis and the practice field before the game, 19% execution & accuracy on the day and 1% shape of the ball. One of my favorite young coaches Helmut Lehman case in point.
Amongst other casual and possibly useless suggestions I have is to play a 1/3/3/1 formation and play the 3rd pod player as an additional cleaner or first distributor, depending on ruck outcome. In addition if you play the formation same side twice you have an opportunity to play behind the pod on the third play and exploit the 13/wing channel where I still have doubts about the 13’s top-end. To negate the 15’s counter, I would suggest kicking into the trams and boxing him against touch. Lastly they fold well on PD and first channel plays, so suggest your 9 plays the first receiver as far away as possible from previous phase. May help to stretch those fetchers a bit as well. Obviously, if one of the fetchers are first tackler, take the contact to remove from play for at least another phase.
@Prlgim: Verkoop the Cape’s no1 choice in meat ? Sou Lady Grey se specials vermy, bestuurder is ‘n Boishaai pa…dalk Mbekweni besoek, nog nuut hier maar dis mos deel van Noorder Paarl, nie? As ek verkeerd is oor die 9’s, sal dit nie eerste keer wees, net ‘n gewone ou kyker, nie ‘n kenner ???
@bloedwors: if this rain continues…….all gameplans are out the window! True Grit will be needed.
@Dipstik: inside information? No I had no inside info on preventing a cricket score it was a feeling. I sat next to a trio of old boys of Bosche. One of them said he was 2013 flyhalf. The words said to me by him was I just dont want the team to be “Embarrassed” today. My retort was dont knock yourself before you play.
@odie15: I thought that we had put this to bed but seeing as you have commented let me make one.
I think that we need a little perspective here. Realistically it would be a shock result if Bosch beat HJS, Gym or PRG – no argument.
Results of 43 – 26 (4 tries) vs PRG and 48 – 19 ( 3 tries ) vs Gym where we were down by a couple of points into the second half, when a shocking decision resulted in a 90 m try plus an intercept after the hooter, to my mind doesn’t constitute cricket scores.
Landbou is the only match this season that Bosch were not competitive, in that we were blown away early on by a good Landbou performance. ( still scored 3 tries )
Maybe to you as a supporter of HJS and to me as a Bosch supporter ( thats my colours ) we see competitive and cricket scores very differently so I do take offence by your comments that we went out there trying to “prevent” a cricket score.
Firstly I would like to know where you got that “inside” information on the game plan from and secondly imo there was no evidence of that attitude from the type of game that was played by Bosch. Yes you have since commended Bosch for the way they played however you are still trying to justify your original comments.
We don’t have 8 SA Schools players plus a number ( dont know how many ) Academy players in our team – all I want to see from Bosch ( against the “Big 3/4” – dirty word I heard ) is to give it a go, score some tries and not give up.
As far as I am concerned we did that against 3 of the 4 Boland schools this year ( our only losses so far along with a draw vs SACS ) and although we may not did not look like winning no-one can say that they didn’t see some fantastic rugby from our boys.
The above record would be seen as a disastrous year for HJS however for Bosch it has been a success. I am proud of the way they boys have played and I hope that they can finish off the season as well as they have played up till now.
Again no hard feelings I think that sometimes you just need to see things from a different perspective.
I must also just add that the manner in which the HJS boys conducted themselves on and off the field for a team that has won 35 in a row has to be commended.
@Ploegskaar: I would enjoy the team using Gianni to create space for outside backs….I believe there’s enough skill to do that. I have a few ideas on it but I am of no influence when it comes to the schools rugby.
@Dipstik: I am sorry for offending you so badly. Trust me when I say the play of Bosche on Saturday was commendable. I dont know your colours due to your choice not to display them. But what do you think their goal was on Saturday?
@bloedwors: a lead at interschools is always the best pressure. I haven’t seen many leads busted yet. For Dipstik scoreboard pressure even just 5 points is huge @ Interschools. My stomach is turning already….AWESOME.
Ploegskaar, welcome to join me for a coffee, my office is in Cape Town though, you can get my email from Beet. Your analysis is spot on, the referee’s interpretation of the break down is going to be key. It would be key for Gym to get a lead to try and get Boishaai out of there comfort zone. I must say I wish we had more rugby analysis on this site.
@Ploegskaar: Wat verkoop jy Bloedwors ? Enige Interskole specials ? Great tyd van die jaar die en die kinders kan nie wag maar Stellenberg en Sacs moet eers die nodige respek gewys word en ons hoop beide spanne kom beseringsvry daardeur. Ploegskaar ons sal oor 2 jaar sien wie toe die beste 9 was ne maar kom ons agree to disagree en gee die WP kontrak noueers voorkeur Beide bly goeie spelers
@odie15: at 26 for 5 I’d rather be playing rugby against Paarl Boys than batting against Rondebosch ?
@OG: KC had a flu outbreak last week and the week before last. 220 kids out with flu…
@bloedwors: As you probably know I have no vested interest, just a supporter of sorts, but I am sure we both have valid reasons for our preferred 9. If you are who I think you are, I should probably head just down the Main Road for a chat & a coffee at some stage. Not buying though, I am a Toyota man!
With regards to the Paarl derby, the outcome will depend on how the rucks are officiated and Gym’s approach to the rucks. If Gym secures a steady supply of fast ball they will be able to play their high tempo game, which is difficult to defend for 70 minutes. Even then Gym will have to be accurate, as the Boishaai game is based on defense, defensive pressure and playing off turnovers. Playing in the right areas is essential and playing a bit less rugby is advisable….
Your opponents do very little, but what they do, they do exceptionally well, they are patient with and importantly without the ball and they trust their structures for 70 minutes
@bloedwors: you quite right the 2 schools feed off each other and push continuously. They competing within the Dorp everyday. Your opinion on Bishops is shared. In fact I include all 4 Cape schools. In my Sot year we had an awesome team in my opinion. In those days 5 fwds and 1 back Pieter Loubser who to date in my opinion is the most unfortunate player ever. He has about 3 caps for WP. Considering he was the right wing for SA schools when James Small was fullback. There was 1 difference in those days player migration between unions didnt happen much. He slugged it out in WP league while Carel Dup, Danie Gerber and Burgers were Bok wings in WP. By the time they retired he was mid 20s and in wrong time. But thats off track. In that year we had a great team yet we lost 0-19 to Bishops and 3-12 to Rondebosche. We didnt play all 4 every year but playing against Southern suburb school wss tough and in depth. What happened I dont know the league in those times even Brackenfell were strong we drew in 87 lost in 88 to them. With years gone by it makes no sense there isnt enough space in 4 schools for all the talent to go to. You ask Richard Visagie who knows WP school rugby most probably better than most. We need a resurgence of Southern suburbs schools not just in A teams but through to C and D teams. Every weekend passion and opposition is AWESOME.
@bloedwors: Rom! Rom! Rom! Die Blou trein kom!! Hê- Hê!
@bloedwors: Yes, I believe that a coach make a team and not the players. You obviously need talent and that is something most of the top rugby schools have. In the end the coach is the difference between having a good team or a great team.
I have been to many provincial trails and I have seen to many shockingly bad choices to read to much into CW or SA schools teams. With the qouta system it makes it even more questionable . Most of us on this blog go to many school games and I think all of us will probably have a good idea of who the strongest or best players in our regions are. I have seen a player that plays of the bench for his school team but now he made SA schools? Everybody including his team mates must wonder about his selection. He didn’t select himself but how must he and his teammates deal with it? What about the boy that starts ahead of him at his school, do the coach now have to drop the boy for the SA player?
Personnaly I think they must stop this SA schools team rubbish and select two presidents teams that play these internationals.
@bloedwors: I am pulling the mickey here!..but I still think its a plot by Gim!
Why was the Kingswood vs DP match postponed ?
Boishaaipa, you must have misread my posts. I was agreeing with Stier that in the long run playing SA schools does not mean a player will make it in senior rugby…which doesn’t take anything away from a remarkable achievement by Boishaai to have 8 representatives. These players have proved themselves over the season by being the nr 1 side. Having said that I think Affies should have had more forwards included in the SA team. I have seen their pack on several occasions and they are very strong.
@bloedwors: I have it all figured out now…This whole CW and SA Schools thing was a elaborate plot by Gim and their supporters to put extra pressure on Boishaai for Interschools!..They bought off a few selectors to pick so many BH boys cause they know the extra pressure it brings with Interschools!…Ag nee man!..Dis darem onnodig!
@Beet: Westering 8-13 Cambridge
@LindenPa: Congratulations on your victories. I know from the Alberton side there was huge excitement on Saturday that Dinamika were in the final. Your teams prevailed and earned the right to contest in the playoffs. All the best, hope the boys have fun.
On another topic, I am worried about Bishops..what’s happening there…they seem to have lost their mojo and fight..WP needs a strong Bishops team. There cannot be any excuse for copping 40 points at home…
Stier, I agree that SA schools mean nothing, I feel for the Affies pack that dominated Boishaai at Wildeklawer…we have good succession plans in place and we are investing in Helmuth Lehman, who will eventually take over. We have been very fortunate to have superb coaches such as Christoff and Pieter mentor our boys. Having said that we will never want to deprive Pieter of an opportunity to coach at the highest level. It is truly unbelievable that our 2 Paarl schools keep on producing top schoolboy teams! I am very proud of both schools. I hope Boishaai keep Sean as he has done a magnificent job…
Ploegskaar, what is your thoughts on Gim vs Boishaai, I rate your opinion, even though I am not convinced that Carstens is better than Burger….I am too close to form an objective opinion…
@Ploegskaar: Think you are being modest. If there is any WC school capable of upsetting the Big 3 as you call them, its Landbou. Cape Town 4 good but, apart from SACS, currently not in the same class. Most other schools in the WC needs a complete mind shift in order to compete with the top 3 (4). They need to believe that they can actually beat them. If not, they will always be the teams that almost beat the big boys. If the belief don’t exist, the status quo will continue. (I do concede that a couple of big burley boerseuns in any team makes it easier)
@Ploegskaar: sorry I used that as a term used by others. But lets be honest this is not true here. Outeniqua, Boland and Bishops have almost beaten Boishaai in last 2 years. Outeniqua in 3 matches stood a chance. Boland has in both years come close.
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: I think we need a bit of perspective here…..my comment has nothing to do with number of WP CW players or SA schools players. To be honest I think 8 SA schools players is a bit exaggerated. Yes the team has done well this year but I dont think it justifies 8. I know the boys dont select themselves. But lets be honest they haven’t dominated that much to get 8 in side. Cravenweek has nothing to do with the school in fact in my opinion it gets in the way. Its more about the individuals than the school. 2013 proved that when half our Cravenweek players were in the 2nd team which was a poor team with all those “stars”. In SA schools team is players who cant make their own schools 1st team.
@odie15: This Big 4 nonsense is really ridiculous, it’s the Big 3, Cape Town 4 & Landbou. 3 Super Schools are in a league of their own, the rest just make up the numbers
@Queenian: is that a cricket score?
@Dipstik: I fail to see what you trying to say here. If you look at Gim, PRG and Boland Landbou scores its 45 plus scores against Bosche. All credit to Bosche on Saturday score was half of previous Big 4 scores. Isnt 40 plus a cricket score? If you look at Affies match, Sharks and Stormers those were no contests. But Bosche achieved something Saturday they lead the scoreboard for 25min. If you think its arrogant to say so and you lose respect for my opinion then so be.
@Dipstik: I reported on the match for a local newspaper. I did mention that Rondebosch gave a very good performance and that they certainly were not overawed by the big name Boishaai players. Also had the better of the lineouts. In fact, as you will see on another thread, I criticized the Boishaai performance, taking into account their number of “star” players.
I also personally congratulated one of your coaches after the match with your performance.
@Dipstik: @boerboel: I am not being arrogant here. Bosche been thumped by both GIM and PRG this year. I had 2013 Bosche players sitting next to me on the stand. We talked rugby all morning. There was much respect given to all. They were all of same opinion on the day. They told me they watched GIM & PRG matches but were just hoping not to be embarrassed on Saturday. I thought they played very well as a unit. Seems people get offended really quik by smallest comment. Note I believe SACS will be a big task please.
@Hooit: the record and everything to do with the streak is irrelevant. I believe without Interschools win the last year will mean nothing to these boys. For the rest of their lives will be asked what was your interschools score……plus If you put the year into context after Affies, Grey, PRG and all other victories now on the sheet its incomplete without Interschools. As we all know you dont need SA schools for a career. But for most of these boys next Saturday will be their World Cup Final. It will cap an epic season for the team. We experienced similar in 2012 ending no1 but losing to GIM. Thats not nice at all….
@Dipstik: I agree Dipstick. No hard feelings, some old Boys should maybe choose their words better. No disrespect towards Rondebosch. I need to compliment them on the way they played – 15 man rugby, and they really did try to make it a spectacle in bad weather conditions.
Surely Queens can play somebody better than Port Rex I mean 105-20 is surely not good for there rugby.
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: no hard feelings – I am sure it wasn’t intentional but I think some more thought should go into comments made about other schools.
Trust all the Affies people got home safely. Roads have been a nightmare! Flooding in Durban – what is it with the Affies / College fixture – last year is was terrible in Pretoria
BTW: Well played all Affies teams
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: no excuse – 13 of the Bosch boys hadn’t been on a rugby field since June 11. You could say we were rusty ???? But we won’t make excuses. We were VERY proud of the way our 1st and 2nd team played and if they play like that for the last 4 games they will be very competitive.
@BoishaaiPa: No worries, all corrected in good time
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: do you agree with the cricket score comment ?
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Miskien moet jy maar in Afrikaans blog want jy het dit sopas amper nog erger gemaak!..
@Dipstik: All i think the guys are trying to say is, we had loads of guys in the provincial teams…..they havnt had any break whatsoever and the guys merely tried to ‘get through the game’…..we as Paarl Boys would never not show respect to the opposition.
@Dipstik: @Dipstik: agreed-the wet field and rain did level matters but rondebosch deserved respect-they tried to play rugby and were not overawed at all-lovely supporters as well-a classy school
@odie15: that is very arrogant comment. Watch the game again. Bosch never looked like winning the game but to say they went on the field trying to prevent a cricket score is TOTALLY bullshit. I thought more of Booishaai before those comments. The field was wet for Bosch as well. Bosch outside backs also hindered by wet. Bosch card also incorrect. Give credit where it’s due
@BoishaaiPa: ….as jy tyd aan jou kant het is afstand nie n probleem nie, Pa het gaan saamjag……so ja, moes hom weer op Onrus gaan aflaai
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Jy het darem n moerse ompad gery as jy van Langkloof weer Riversdal toe is…
@GarsieOuer: Ek dink ons almal weet dit…wie is nie beleefd genoeg nie?
Ai mense, ons moet bietjie perspektief hou. Kom ons verbind daartoe om ten minste beleefd te bly? Ons seuns lees hier.
@odie15: I would assume that the bragging rights are more important to the players than the record or anything else. The way it should be.
@Hooit: I think this is what it is due to the 3kms between the schools. Yes many clashes are great clashes but as Grey knows they dont have a GIM. The 2 need each other to be what they are. All year they watch each others progress walk past each other in the street. Something the Grey vs PRG clash in a few weeks cannot do. They compete in everything full throttle….
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: I Agree with both of you. The rain had a big influence in the first half. My feeling is that we didn’t compete as well as we can at the breakdowns. But like you guys said on to the next one. It will be good prep of the 6th.
@odie15: The Lions final could be at Ellispark. I just hope both teams have no injuries and that the conditions will be better than this week. Yes but really looking forward to it. Just n pity that Monnas should be playing about the same time and there is always that 1 person who keeps on updating everybody on the score and spoiling watching the game a bit later. Will put the PVR to good use.
@Hooit: yes by that time it will be only live rugby on tv. So maybe SS1…think the Hurricanes vs Lions @ 0930 other match of importance to you that day!
@Hooit: It will be on TV correct. Expect between 25000 and 30000 people. Hence the game being played at the Faure Street Stadium in Paarl and not at Paarl Gim or Paarl Boys..Massive.
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: I usually do not comment on the schools in WP as I do not see enough of them to comment but 1 thing is fact. The game between Bois High and Gim will be the biggest school game of the year. I will be supporting rugby on the day. I assume it will/should/must be on TV.
@odie15: I totally agree with your comments above. Lets put this game behind us and shift the focus towards the game against SACS. Very good preparation for interschools.
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: some good touches but it was last 10 min of the match. But we discuss this now and dont see the big picture do we. The focus was never on Saturday its ahead…..we have SACS who have pushed GIM and PRG this year losing by only 4 points to each of them. Even though Rondebosche played well they never looked like scoring a try. It was a effort by a team wanting to get through a match not wanting a cricket score.
Alhoewel ek nie meer by die skool betrokke is nie, wil ek darem net vir Linden gelukwens. Die eerstes en O/16’s is (in die afwesigheid van Helpies) die Leeus kampioene. Die eerstes het in die liga teen Alberton en Dinamika verloor, maar wen Alberton in the halfeind en Dinamika in die finaal.
Baie geluk manne en afrigters en sterkte vir die Beeldtrofee!
Sterkte ook aan Helpies, julle O/15’s en eerstes gaan moeilik geklop word en lyk na die Beeldtrofee kampioene vir 2016.
@odie15: How did Boeta play…..?
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: boeta came on for seccies Saturday. Yes Dan can be injured. Thats why I am saying have better options when using other hooker. Yes will be wet next week. Thats why I am saying using passes more effective that sidesteps. Other thing why use these stupid boots with blades in that type of weather. How about a solid long stud pair “Patricks” hehehe….
@odie15: Keep in mind….Dan the Man can get injured during interschools and it may be wet too…….so there is no excuses for this top flight team. beware of the intercept pass too…..
I do however think this was a ‘post CW” game for these guys…
I will judge them on their performance come Saturday against a good SACS team.
Boeta Chamberlain will play C team…..will be on bench for seccies as well as get game time, will bench for 1st team then. He is purely in a league of his own…
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Boishaai saw no lineout ball this weekend. A huge problem being on backfoot the whole time. Too many short lineouts throwing too far. Best option is 2 ball. Rested Dan so understandable missed his throwing but to call options like they did with less acurate hooker! The firld was wet and Gianni was slipping every where due his love for stepping. Passes a bit more but its more and more that teams know what he does. Team needs to use his skills to create space for the rest of the backs. That would be effective for sure. I would say half of interschools backline was used Saturday.
@bloedwors: that makes it more impressive. My count was on squads anounced.
@Stier: Zac Burger is n ongelooflike speler……skud maar net my kop…..daardie man behoort ten minste in die WP CW span!
Terug uit die Langkloof na n suksesvolle naweek.
Kerels ek was by die Gim/Bulle wedstryd….
Fiela is n puik 10.
Ludick het n skitter wedstryd op slot gehad, so ook no 9 en kaptein van Gim Zac.
Gim vuur op alle silinders!!!
Boishaai sal moet reg wees kom interskole oor n week.
Ek kon beslis by Gim ook sien dat die Cravenweek en Akademie spelers wel ‘pap’ was….na n lang en uitmergelende seisoen sover as ook n taai CW.
N ongelooflike interskole wag op ons. Iets spesiaals, nie sy gelyke in wereldrugby nie.
@bloedwors: You can say that again, the PRG lock looks very small. I for one don’t think the CW and SA school teams are that important. Every year we see boys making their CW teams or even SA teams just to disappear from rugby. Fact is some boys get into these teams while better players sometimes mis out. In the end CW and SA schools will not make anybody successful only hard work and passion will.
Uys is a awesome player and I don’t think Gim got a fair deal at SA team selection. They are not the second best schools team in the country for nothing. Zak Burger is the best 9 in the country never mind WP.
How do you guys manage to stay under the radar so much? The less I hear of Gim the more I start to worry.
One question, how are you guys going to keep slapchips at Gim? Surely he wants to coach SR? It won’t surprise me if Sean doesn’t stay at Bois High much longer, these guys also have dreams of bigger things.
@bloedwors: Ludick is nog gr11 en gaan volgende jaar ook nog ‘n groot impak kan maak! Ek weet egter nie hoe die beleide werk t.o.v. ‘n Namibiër wat vir die WP CW speel nie (sou dit so uitdraai)? Mag hul dan SA Skole speel?
To all the Boishaai supporters,congrats on your 8 SA schools players, could have been 9 with Horne. As for Gym I was very surprised that the WP selectors overlooked our lock Ludick…in my view he should be Moerat’s lock partner in SA schools team, great scrummager and very effective in tight loose. The Paul Roos lock is too small to make an impact on international level
Odie, just a correction, Paarl Gym had 9 players at CW & AW and not 7. It would have been 10 if Wian did not break his arm. Moreover Muller Uys left the field at half time injured. He was probably the only WP forward that played all 3 games at CW without ever being subbed and given a rest, which was probably an oversight. So I can’t see how Gym benefitted from a rest…
@Wyvern: Strange things happen in EP rugby and not only at senior level. The EP schools administrators and selectors seem to have paid for their perceived childishness at the trials. The scoreline actually flatters Framesby who was comprehensively outplayed in most , if not all , facets of the game. The atrocious conditions and an over zealous referee did not help any of the teams. People will no doubt ask how Framesby had 11 players included in the top youth week teams but are struggling to win a game against decent opposition ( I am not saying any boy did not deserve his selection).
Strangely (or maybe not) 2 of their youth week players were named in their 2nd team. Grey , who was missing their regular captain (9) and flyhalf ( SA Schools player) , also had a Craven week player in the 2nd team and a SA Schools player on the bench for the 2nds. The best winger in the province imho also plays for the 2nd team.
There may be logical explanations for all the above but I certainly do not know them. What I am convinced of though is the sooner the gravy train of high school selectors , administrators and coaches get replaced with competent personnel the better for rugby in the province.
Attended the Bere/Helpies games on Saturday and found the rugby played entertaining. Was nice that all games were competitive but played in good spirit. Three out of five games could have gone either way and just shows how equally balanced the sides were- points for and against overall probably close to equal.
If you want to be the best (you can) then play and compete with and beat the best… Good preparation I thought for both schools for upcoming Beeld.
Hats off to Parktown with your win on Saturday. Silently they go about their business and always prepared to play the ” higher ranked” teams even if they took 40 the last time.
Other the teams should be queuing to try and squeeze a fixture against Boishaai when they are playing without their 8 SA Schools players ..-might be the only way they can be beaten this season
@Stier: I think the biggest factor is 2 weeks from Interschools. All of them are looking to preserve the body and prevent injuries. I think Sean was hoping for Bosche to allow us a chance to rest a few more players. I see GIM benefited from a good rest in holidays considering they had 7 in CW&AW. The whole of Oakdale made up CW&AW. I dont know why when you have a 3 week school holiday they chose to play in the last week. At no stage have any of the teams been able to rest. Since 1 April players have played 22 matches in 18 weeks. Not even Bok players do that.
@Rugbyman: Even though it may not be your primary profession, working with young minds and talent remains a privilege and a challenge for any person Please be assured that my latest statements are not loaded. See my previous comments containing elements of concern and irritation, with a heavy undertone of “tough love”. If you practice what you preach, I am sure the results will show on the field and more importantly, of the field.
@Quagga: Sterkte, hy het ‘n goeie rolmodel in jou. Ja, shiners was altyd ‘n hoogtepunt in skool!
@Valkie: Jammer om dit te hoor man. Gelukkig is als nog nie verby nie. Sterkte, hoop die beseerdes is gou terug.
Ja, ouergedrag verstom my steeds. Wonder wat die spelers sou dink as hulle langs hul pa’s moes sit.
@Stier: @Ploegskaar: Boland been really good vs Bishops over the years. Well done.
@Ploegskaar: Ja dit beindruk my altyd hoe die kinders ons groot bek ouers wys dat mens stil moet bly as iemand skop. Die laaitjies het goeie maniere en die manier hoe hulle altyd na die tyd hulle skool lied sing en vir mekaar se skoollied en kreed op aandag bly wys die respek vir mekaar se skool. Altyd ‘n highlight na ‘n game.
Not Bois Highs best performance but we will take it. Rondebosch didn’t stand back and gave them a good game and they have to be congtatulated for that. Bois High looked rusted which was strange considering most of them just played in the CW. To many handling errors and against Gim that will cost them. Moerats yellow was laughable, why is it if a smaller player make a high tackle it’s normally just a penalty but if a bigger guy looks to have made a high hit the cards come out. What made the card worse is the fact that it was around the shoulder and he didn’t even touch the nek or head.
Next week SACS and then the big one. Gim is starting to hit their straps and inter schools is going to be massive. Will anybody have the guts to put money on that game?
Two difficult weeks ahead but if Bois High can get through it, it will be something really special. Infact it will probably be one of the greatest achievements in SA schoolboy rugby history if one consider their fixture list.
@4*4 Go have a look at HJS fixture list the last two seasons and then you will see what these kids had to deal with. Like Sean said he is not worried about their heads but he is worried about their body’s.
One question how long does a player go to the “cooler” for in school rugby?
@Djou: Thanx I’ll tell him. Sporting a fat shiner today and loving it. Difficult in the shadow of the talented Vark this year I assure you, but he just never stops working on and off the field. Not too terrible for a 16 and a half year old.
About the player everyone is complaining about. Good player, with the right guidance hopefully he will rise above his challenges and mature. Hope he does not get lost in the system. This is the type of player a system like Garsies’ system (and by no means am I trying to open a can of controversy here) can really help to become who he needs to be.
@rugbyman: do you develop youth or not? Academics only part of it?
@BrotherBear: For the record… I am not a teacher… Rugby is my passion and my hobby… I have a different proffesion
@Rugbyman: Just for the record – I see your line of work as one of those that has a significant impact on society and future progress. Much higher than some professionals in the law or financial fields. Definitely much, much higher than politicians. You have a thankless job that should be rated as no 1 priority in this country ( and anywhere else). If my gripes are part of a project in progress – you have my full support. Forming young minds must be one of the most important priorities. The other professional areas I mentioned should not be offended, but realise you are but a “maintenance” function. People is what life and SBR is all about.
@Valkie:
@Djou: NHS sit met een of twee spelers wat beseer was. Een was die span se gewone kaptein, en ń briljante speler is. Die skuiwe wat gemaak was het nie gewerk nie. Tweedens het NHS net nie opgedaag nie, en in my beskeie en eenvoudige opinie die swakste wedstryd van die seisoen gehad. HTS het goed gespeel. Dis een wedstryd wat ons (NHS) gou wil vergeet en aanbeweeg.
Laastens, ouergedrag van die pawiljoen af was uiters onvanpas, ongevraagd en hierdie ouers behoort hulle koppe in skaamte te laat sak. Die dikgat oom met sy sonbril vrou het die rugbyreëlboek ingesluk en was bereid om ń regverdige skeidsregter gratis lesse te gee van die pawiljoen af…..oom en tannie ´sportsman warehouse´ het ‘n special op tekkies….gaan kry vir julle ń paar en word refs dan sal julle ook gesonder lewe.
On a positive note, I want to congratulate the Garsies /15’s with a good win yesterday. This team has battled at times this year but the boys never lost their intensity on the practice field and reaped the awards yesterday.
Secondly congratulations to the Affies /14c’s who, despite a red card, 37 penalties and 11 free kicks against them won yesterday.
Thirdly I also pledge to, from this moment on, ignore the numerous trolls on this blog that hide behind nicknames and snide veneers.
@Rugbyman: not judging at all – just asking the question as to whether he was sanctioned. Glad to hear he has support and working through his issues – good luck
The grey/framesby result says it all when it comes to the EP CW selections this year…
@MikeSt: Ha, ha Mike! Oppas net, die ander span sal dalk na al die seuns se 6-packs wil gryp!
EGJ gaan in die kwart finale met hulle 3de trui speel. Kaal bolyf. Hoop almal sal ok wees daarmee
@Hooit: Jy het jou sin gekry. En toe wen HTS Middelburg vir Nellies. Sjoe, wat het daar gebeur?
@Ploegskaar: Geluk met ‘n goeie wen. Ek hou van jul alternatiewe truie net soveel as wat ek van jul swart hou!
@4×4: Hi mater, waar was jy? Het nie die Affie-game gesien nie. Het julle met ‘n volspan gespeel of ook spelers laat rus? Geluk met die vertoning en hoe was die ander uitslae?
@Quagga: Your son certainly caught my eye. I was telling a friend of mine that the #2 of Helpies is one to watch for the future. Glad to know who his father is.
Just as an aside. Rugbyman said something about a certain player everyone is bashing here. Much bigger issues at play there and they are working on it. So, for all the uninformed, stop bashing the boy please!!! You have no idea what he is dealing with.
Garsies….julle is besig om ‘n kultuur van trots te skep en dit is aansteeklik veral onder julle ou Alma Maters. So nou en dan gly ‘n span maar die ratte is outomaties. Doen voort met julle spel ons ouers geniet dit ook om julle ontwikkeling dop te hou. Geluk met julle onder ouderdom spanne se uitslae!
En nog ‘n 50 punte plus wen vir die Affies Seuns. Die balhantering en verspreiding was nie na wense nie en sal ernstige aandag moet geniet voor vgl naweek se monster wedstryd teen Glenwood.
Nou word die vraag gevra of dit enigsins fisies moontlik is om week in en week uit teen net die topskole te kan meeding en kompeterend te wees. Geen 50 punte plus wen is altyd mooi nie, en ‘n close game wat uitgegrined word is baie mooier. Ek het my ernstig bedenkinge of die seuns net teen top skole sal kan meeding…my verwysing raamwerk is Garsies se vertoning laasjaar en Affies sin hierdie jaar toe beide skole in baie kort bestek teen ander topskole gespeel en verloor het.
Dit gesê baie geluk aan die Affies Seuns wat gister gespeel het…julle het ons trots gemaak.
@knowthegame: Lyk my ons moet ook eerder oor jou praat as met jou! Rugbyman is heeltemal reg. Dit het ‘n Garsie bashing blog geword. Hou liewer by wat jy sê en lewer min kommentaar want jy weet nie waarvan jy praat nie elke keer as jy Garsies kritiseer.
@Knowthegame….bly om te hoor dat jy ook n kenner van klas en styl en wannebies is….. Ek het nog altyd vas geglo dat net Tannie MC n kenner is….Was jy self by die wedstryd of glo jy alles wat die beertjie jou vertel…. Onthou n saak het meer as een kant joune, myne en die waarheid….klink meer of jy die een is wat kerm en kla…..
Elke skool het maar 2 stelle truie, vir waneer truie kan bots, behalwe as jy seker nie geld het vir ‘n 2de stel nie, of as jou trui kleur so verfoeilik lelik is dat dit met geen skool s’n soos in ooit sal bots nie….
Landbou het gister in wit truie met goue krae en nommers gejol teen Biskoppe, pragtig gelyk man, en 2 spanne het mekaar steeds gekou, want dit was Biskoppe en Landbou, en niemand het ‘n fok omgegee oor truie, wie beseer was, hoe swaar die veld was, die paar reënbuie en die kleur van die lynregter se onderbroek nie.
Big up aan beide skole se dirigente wat leerders stilgemaak het voor skoppe, skolerugby in die beskawing bly darem lekker
@knowthegame: Jy ken my nie… jy het geen idee wat my dryf en wat ek doen nie… jy maak gevolgtrekkings wat ver van die waarheid is… jynis egter geregtig op jou opinie!
Wat betref jou opmerkings en kommentaar, elke geleentheid wat jy kommentaar lewer is dit egter negatief teenoor die skool waar ek betrokke is… ek kla nooit nie! Ek verdedig slegs as iemand stront praat…
As jy klaar jou tande vir die dag gekners het, hoop ek jy het n beter dag… duidelik maar sleg afgeskop vanoggend
@Rugbyman: ek lees blog baie, en lewer bitter min kommentaar maar julle sal moet groot word,een van die dae is jou kinders uit skool. Hierdie is n game nie lewe en dood nie nie.Kry vir jou iets anders ook,ry fiets,draf, crossfit of bird watching.Die feit is, julle is die grootste klomp kerm en kla gatte op die blog
Dis vir my opvallend en eintlik scary hoe hierdie blog ‘n Garsie bashing blog geword het… Uit die aard van die saak is daar baie garsie haters daabuite wat hulle verlustig as ons verloor… Julle het seker jul redes…
Let nou mooi op…
ons verloor ook soos alle spanne met tye, ons maak ook foute… ons het nie net engeltjies in ons skool nie ( baie van julle spanne het mos net engeltjies, ouers wat nooit iets skree nie en coaches wat nooit van die kant af tekere gaan nie…) ons wen ook soms… ons seuns is gewone kinders net soos jou skool se kinders… ons probeer ons bes om ons seuns op te voed en as beter mense in die wereld in te stuur net soos ek glo julle doen… ons probeer ons seuns vaardighede leer wat hulle op die rugbyveld toepas om aantreklike rugby te speel… ons kom van nerens af nie en omdat ons suksesvol is haat sekere skole en ouers ons en word ons sleg gese…
hiermee dan die slegte nuus: Ons gaan nie weggaan nie, ons gaan nie lê nie… ons gaan aanhou fight! Julle haat spoor ons net aan en motiveer ons net meer en meer on suksesvol te wees…
Laaste punt… onthou julle spoel julle monde uit en het julle messe in vir kinders wat net rugby speel… n game waarvoor hulle en julle lief is… moenie dat jou passie in haat verander en jou iets maak wat jy nie is nie… ek praat nou met my mede garsies ook… probeer die moral high ground hou al is dit soms moeilik… vat dit van wie dit kom… julle sal ook vind as dit met ons goed gaan sê die manne niks! Hulle sit soos aasvoëls en wag tot ons val en val dan aan!
Lieflike Sondag vir julle almal!
@Vastrap: all wat by my opkom is n klomp “wannabies”
@knowthegame: Net soos jy dit daar sê… dus n verlore saak vir jou en die beertjie
@knowthegame: ai die truie storie… ons speel gereeld met daai truie, ons het twe stelle 1ste span truie!!! Die saak is mos al afgehandel en tot vervelens toe bespreek… Arrogansie is nie deel van ons mondering nie! Ek verafsku arrogansie!
Ons vat ons pak soos n man… Ek sê weer baie geluk aan helpmekaar met die wen! Hulle het die wen verdien! Watter deel verstaan jy nie?
@BrotherBear: n mens kan baie dinge koop,maar klas en styl is nie op die rakke nie
@Wonder: bla,bla bla daar gaan die garsies alweer oor klomp spleres wat nie kon speel nie.Hou op kak praat en vat julle verloor soos manne.Vorge game op Helpies was julle so arrogant dat dit julle met n ander stel truie gespeel het en toe ook na die game gese 6/7 gereelde spelers nie beskikbaar.Grow up kids
@Roger: Good morning… there was a sanction. He was suspended for a game by the cravenweek judicial commission. That match was last Saturday vs the Freestate.
I am not going to defend his actions but he is a work in progress. Please dont judge without knowing the boy’s background. It is so easy to judge…
@Roger: same fellow.
@Quagga:@Vastrap: hmmmm – cmon guys – where on earth did anyone pick Parktown beating Jeppe? Maybe Jeppe are ranked a touch high but they certainly should not be losing to Parktown with the team they have this year. The KES Parktown fixture should have been played this coming Saturday but will not for well publicized reasons, which is a pity as it may have given us a yardstick as to how good Parktown are? KES Jeppe the weekend after – I sniff another upset
@BrotherBear: is this the same fellow who punched a Lions player at Craven Week after the final whistle? No sanction obviously if he is still playing?
@Beet…Limpopo big schools finals Ben Vorster 26-21 PHS
Valke big school final Vereeniging Gim 33-23 Transvalia
well done Vossies, sorry Pieties
well done to my other Red team for beating Crusaders today
@BrotherBear…. Bestuur net jouself asb ….of bel die Polisie as jy hulp nodig het…
@Kattes-Strofes: very true as I said before the bois are licking their wounds. Everyone is wanting a piece and a trophy. Yes both Manny and Dan had a rest. Also Heinrich and Urgen didn’t play. The pack is tired there’s been no rest sinc e Wilde Klawer. I think Sean’s worst nightmare today they had to play full match. Somehow they need good rest but there will be none until season is done. There’s a price they pay for what they’ve earned you can see it. Dan was missed alot today lineouts were shocking to say the least.
@Bere007: Geen persoon is te jonk of te oud om hulself aan ‘n tipe “boewery” skuldig te maak en dan uitgewys te word nie. Obviously Garsfontein cannot manage the individual/s and/or situations. My comments merely reflect consistent repeats of said behaviour. Trying to deamonise me will bring you nowhere – it is what it is. Do something about it, for heaven’s sake. If the situation is addressed, then there is obviously nothing to talk about. We can really carry on forever if you want more facts and tips.
@bloedwors: I dont know what Gim did vs Garsies early on in the year……that result might be something they reflect on. The season is coming to a quick end as the curtain is drawn on 5 years of my son and his mates.
@odie15: Jeepers guys!! Things are really hotting up at Paarl in anticipation of 6 Aug.
Gimmies are firing the 1st. salvo with a brilliant win over Oakdale, and that in Riversdale. Earlier this season, Boishaai had to work very hard for their victory over the same opponents, at Brug street.
Add to this that Boishaai gave a stuttering performance today against a Rondebosch team that seemed unfazed by their more illustrious opponents.
Boishaai had 6 of their 8 SA Schools players in their line-up, with only centre Manny Rass and hooker Daniel Jooste missing due to flu.
It was one of Boishaai’s worst performances of the last 2 years, and very few players enhanced their glowing reputations.
However! One should also congratulate the Rondebosch boys for a real gutsy and commited display. One could see the determination in their body language.Well played lads!
Maybe this is a timely wake -up call to the boys, that they will still need to put in the hard yards. If they play like they did today, against a very solid Sacks , next weekend, I am afraid that the unbeaten run will come to an abrupt halt. Not to even the really big one of 6 Aug.
Goeie dag vir Menlo teen Zwartkop:
0/14 wen 53 – 0
0/15 wen 48 – 12
0/16 wen 60 – 0
1ste wen 35 – 29
@odie15: Agree. No easy games, especially having to play them on their home turf.
Very good performance by Gym today, clinical display…I am astounded that the WP selectors did not select lock Adriaan Ludick for the CW or AW,team he should be Moerat’s lock partner in SA schools team. Zack Burger also again showed that it was a disgrace to omit him from CW team…gym vs Boishaai will bE epic encounter, may the best team win…this was certainly Gym’s best performance of the year
@HE: SACS is a worthy opposition as Rondebosche were today. GIM always go into top gear come Aug.
@Quagga: agree with your assessment.
@Quagga.. Dankie vir jou objektiewe opmerkings
@BrotherBear ……geen rede om persoonlik met skoolseuns te raak nie …. Jy is n verleentheid vir die blog….
@Greenman: agree. Let’s hear about those other big battles this weekend as well. Seems Paarl Gim made a statement of note.
Schools WP rugby something to talk about, the rest! Eish!
@Djou: Agree with you about the margin. I was very concerned about the Helpies standard of play for most of the match and certainly a lot of work needs to be done before the Beeld. With a forced change in personnel its back to the drawing board. Garsies showed a lot of heart today and what excellent depth they have in their squad and can feel confident about the road ahead if they sort out one or two coachable areas which no doubt will happen. Some you win, some you lose. Great competition. If my gut feel that many u17 players were part of Garsies 1XV today, then next year will be an awesome year for them.
I thought Helpies u16 are showing signs of improvement and my ‘other son’ Engelbrecht at #2 was very good for them. I thought the u15 result was surprising. Confidence building for Garsies and a wake-up call for Helpies. I agree that Helpies team is very good but clearly not the best and they need to work hard at their game. Next year we can look forward to a some spectacular match-ups again. Both these proud up-and-comers will have a lot to prove. Certainly becoming one of the bruisers of the season.
Agge nee, hulle speel met ander truie.
Agge nee, hulle bewonder ons nie as ons sing nie.
Agge nee, ons spelers is engelle en hulle speel vuil.
Agge nee agge nee agge nee, boetiebeer se alewige geteem….
@Quagga: thanks for a balanced view.
@Djou: catch you later alligator ?
@BrotherBear: Ek verneem Helpmekaar se ouers self wil jou identifiseer.Jy is n verleentheid vir n puik instelling soos Helpmekaar.Jou opmerkings is laakbaar.Hou op om Helpmekaar met jou oningeligte menings te diskrediteer.
@Quagga: I was surprised Helpies did not win by a bigger margin. Congrats you are Garsies’ boss this year after a home and away win.
@Rugbyman: Please stop commenting on bear’s sh.t. Everyone with a brain knows he had a skin transplant. His arse is where his mouth used to be, hence all the sh.t on this blog. We all know what a liar he is so the truth is the opposite of his view.
Baie geluk aan elke Garsie wat vandag gespeel het. As ouer is ek baie trots om ‘n Garsie ouer te wees. 0/14, 0/15 en 0/16 het gewen. veral die 0/15 se wen is ‘n groot een. Helpies se 0/15’s is bitter goed. Wat die eerstes en tweedes betref, julle het jul bes gegee.
Om met die net een punt te verloor, met soveel eerste keuse spelers wat nie kon speel nie, baie goed gedoen. Julle kan trots voel. Moet julle nie aan suur pruime soos boetiebeer steur nie, sy soort is so volop soos das kak.
@boetiebeer, die koning van geelkaarte is Helpies se haker wat nie meer kan speel nie agv sy operasie. Gaan preek gerus vir hom en los al jou negatiewe praatjies oor die Garsies, hulle sal self voor hul eie stoep vee.
@odie15: Spare a thought for SACS and Stellenberg who will have to deal with these two teams in their final “warmup” games before the big derby. All four wineland schools appear to getting to their top form.
@Quagga: Offcourse we will address the discipline! The other nonsense that the bear talks leaves me astounded though… his hatred blinds him…
Our opinions of the tackle in the air will be different depending on which jersey you wear…
My issue with the non contested scrums surrounds helpies claiming to have no props on the bench even though the 2nd team had a full front row… sorry but it sound dubious… two sudden injurious and uncontested scrums…? Lets leave that as it is… I know garsies were not even close to full strength and even taking that into account the game couldve gone either way! Again I take nothing away from helpies – they won the game…
Agree with you on the lineouts… lots of work required…
@Vastrap: I agree about Jeppe Boys. Ranked too high. Couldn’t fit in a fixture with Helpies or Monnas this year. Very convenient for Jeppe Boys. KES will expose them further. As for Parktown they play Helpies again next week. They seem on the up and up. Time will tell how much they progressed this season if at all. Congrats to Parktown for a solid win today.
@Rugbyman: Thanx for an exhillarating match, agree it could have gone either way. The uncontested scrums in the second half were dissapointing as the hooker offered to play loosehead prop which he has done effectively in the past on occasion for brief periods so as for the Beeld there will be no worries about that. Also the same player a prov player in own right (2015 GK, 2016 AW and Helpies man of the match today). At that stage Helpies leading the scrumming contest with one heel against the head to zero. I did have some concerns though on the loosehead side but Helpies will correct that. I thought Garsies defence was really good and showed heart, but I also think you need to address some individual players’ discipline or it may end up costing you in the Beeld. In terms of officiating I agreed with the ref that Helpies winger’s tackle was fair. It was great timing, took the player out as the ball touched his hand and his feet touched the ground. Happened right in front of me. The try by player called CJ of Garsies awarded but it was a knock. Try by Helpies winger awarded but to me he did not seem in control of the ball though so six of the one half a dozen of the other. I thought the lineout work was below par for both teams and that breeze did not help matters. Much could be learnt from today by both teams and as a main objective it was a success. Thumbs up for an exciting contest as always. Good luck for the Beeld hope you meet your goals and looking forward to the next Garsies vs Helpies match.
@rugbyman: pity that you answer the way that you do. Once again bypassing the issues and focussing on trying to discredit the messenger. I have absolutely no issue with Garsies as a school and have lauded your good work many times. It just seems your rugby culture lacks a lot of discline. 14’s tackle on 11 was legal and extremely good timing. Happened right in front of a BB referee without sanction.
Thanks for shaking the coach’s hands. Not all your boys did – refer to 9 and 10 again. No bowing required – please don’t make such stupid comments. One can understand that the boys are disappointed, but bugger – some manners should be in order. Your comments also show your attitude towards good sportmanship and discipline.
@BrotherBear: gee… that is a bit harsh… every single garsie player and coach shook the hands of the helpies players, the coaches shaking the hands of your ciaching staff… your hatred of garsies are so deep that you turn to absolute lies and falicies! I personally shook the hands and thanked your coaching staff for the game… the garsie players walked of the field and shook the hands of the helpies boys… what more do you want? Must the boys bow down in mercy? Shame on you for again reflecting lies! again you neglect some facts…
1. Your team asked for non contested scrums as of just after halftime… if this was an official Beeld game you would have lost because you had no recognised scrummers on the bench and conveniently decided the scrums should.be non contested…
2. You refer to our 10… what about your 14 tackling our 11 without the ball in the air…? Was that acceptable?
3. The absolute sick remarks from your bench players from the side on our players… guess you missed that?
I am not going to comment any further… still waiting for the handshake you promised? Like I expected you didnt do that…
Have a lovely weekend and good luck for the rest of the year… I am sure you would excuse the fact that I dont intend ever reacting to any of your posts again. I despise liars and arrogance…
@rugbyman: Eish, was a tough game that could have gone any way. Congratulations to your team for coming out all guns blazing. Rustiness showed on both sides, but I think discipline pulled it through for Helpmekaar. Seemed as if some Garsie players were out to fight again, rather than play rugby. Heard one Garsie parent calling to Garsies to stop the “gutter rugby”. Your 9 and 10 were the biggest culprits (normal 15 played 10 today and yellow carded again for serious foul play). Now this boy has been in a lot of trouble lately and I actually agree with @Hooit that SA rugby must step in if the school or province cannot change his behaviour. Some may say that my comment here is a bit strong, but I think he does stuff that is actually life threatening or at least career threatening for opponents. You must please address before it goes to the next level. Don’t think think the EG or Monnas guys will be as accommodating as Helpies – they will M..R such arrogance extremely hard.
Another point that irks me a bit is the fact that your players stormed off the field, some bypassing our tonneltjie completely, and just disappeared. It is a good tradition for school teams to sing their school songs and war cries after the game and thanks the other team as well. Garsies just disappeared and did NOTHING. When Helpies thanked Garsies, there was nearly no one to be seen. Rather poor show. Seems the manners are trailing the performance a bit.
Please see my comments as a reflection on what happened on the day and and use the opportunity to correct issues, rather than attacking the messenger.
@Gimoldboy: its a great result. Sounds like GIM are getting into gear as usual….
@Vastrap: I blamed no one my friend… well done to helpies!!! I have never blamed anyone… fact is we were without 11 regulars in our 23 but that is no excuse! If you dont believe me ask the helpies coaches, Helpies had their full team on the field less their hooker and two props! I really dont have any issues with the loss, helpies has a great team…
I said clearly well done to helpies! I say it again! Well done helpies you beat us!
I hope the lions pull it through
@Rugbyman: we’ll disregard your attempt at excuses. Yesterday we read about both sides being without regulars. In that post the numbers were different though than your “11 regulars”. Your team on the day was the team. Your discipline needs serious attention. You cannot again blame the Lions referees, I believe the Bulls referees officiated today? Good luck for the Beeld playoffs.
Anyway, congrats to Helpies for beating Garsies today, Parktown beating Jeppe just shows that anything is possible…..well done to them….also HTS Middelburg beating Nelspruit to become Puma champs deserve a mention…..sounds like all 3 games were edge of the seat stuff!
@Roger: what is so surprising about this? At least we now know Jeppe’s true strength. They can’t hide forever. Hopefully we’ll now see them ranked closer to form.
@Tzavosky: jislaaik, that is seriously bad news of the Ben Vorster flyhalf suddenly at Monnas….now they’re gonna struggle in Beeld without him….I believe they had the potential to overturn their result against Helpies
Without him, as results have shown during his injury layoff…they are not the same
Maybe it is an evil Helpies/Monnas/Lions plot to ensure that both the big and macro Beeld trophy’s go to Lions schools….hehe….and me a staunch lion supporter my whole life……I will still support you, Lions…but leave our kids alone…..otherwise karma will bite you!
Let’s hope not against the Crusaders today!
@MikeSt: Not worried at all… our boys less 11 regulars did us proud! We lost after the hooter!
Take nothing away from helpmekaar though!
I can only imagine how good they would be with the Mpekus
I can only imagine how good they would be with the Mpeku’s
@Rugbyman: bad luck J
Parktown showed us today once and for all that great coaching trumps talent well done to them again
well done Parktown great win against ones traditional highly valued rival…..first win since 2006
Helpmekaar 23 – 22 Garsies
Baie geluk helpies! Baie sterkte met die res vd seisoen!
@Bere007: Telling?
@BoishaaiPa: regstelling 41-19 FT.6 Augustus gaan groot wees. Ons Gimmies gaan op ons beste moet wees! My gunsteling tyd van die jaar is amper hier!
@Gimoldboy: pokkit ..dis n goeie score in Riversdal…nou begin ek van voor af worry oor 6de Aug!..
@odie15: Paarl Gim 34-19 Oakdale.
Baie geluk Helpies ….Dit was n riller !!
Jeez – Parktown over Jeppe 24-17 – huge upset
@Quagga: None. It is a very watered down coke team. None of the 1ste team squad or u/16 A squad players are playing. So you can basically call it a 3rd Coke team.
@Hooit: Other than flyhalf, any surprises for the ‘coke team’ that caught your attention?
@Hooit: Monnas may need centres next year I can understand that but Helpies are sorted. Both centres in that age group have played provincial age group level rugby and will have Lions ambitions as well as the flyhalf Oosthuizen who had a great week at the PUK and was nominated backline player of the tournament and then there are guys like Muzi and Hlalu that come to mind for the bigger picture as well.
@Roger: Monakali apparently playing off the bench.
Re KES vs Jeppe should be full strenght teams.
There were Monnas “scouts” at the Grant Khomo week in the Paarl as well. An u16 player from Hoërskool Nelspruit was offered a considerable package to attend Monument next year.
@Playa: premiere interschools 2pm kickoff usually…
@Kattes-Strofes: can I tip Oakdale by 3…Wian missing link!
@Stier: I will buy you a beer…
@tzavosky: @Hooit: hmmmmm – more shenanigans – Union involvement again? Maybe he will play at center for Monnas
@Hooit: Ben Vorster and Limpopo too. We’ve got them, one played CW and the other AW, both u.17, but please tell Monnas/Lions to leave them alone.
You’ve already got our cricket coach as well (the guy who coached Marcel de Lange from pre-school days), but that did not prevent BV from beating Monnas during the July holidays!
@Hooit: I’m not sure as I wasn’t there, but the two FH’s for Limpopo CW were Pieter Kruger from PHS (tall, lanky guy) and Wernich Kachelhoffer from Heuwelkruin (more stockily built). Hope that helps.
@tzavosky: Monnas and the Lions need centers for next year.
@tzavosky: I heard the Lions are involved in the move. Apparently he was approached by the Lions to move to any Lions school. Monnas seems innocent on this one. Our current 1ste team flyhalf is still u17 so we did not have a need. Helpmekaar also have a very good u17 flyhalf. Going to be interesting next year with trials. If you say he was unhappy with AW team then 1 + 1 seems to be 2. Which flyhalf played at Loftus 1st half and who played 10 second half for Limpopo against Leopards.
Anyone know what time the College – Affies game kicks off tomorrow? I presume it will be on SS10 as usual.
@Hooit: Niemand weet nie, hy’t ook niemand vooraf ingelig nie. Ek weet hy was ongelukkig oor hy AW gekry het en nie CW nie.
Wat ek nie weet nie is hoeveel Monnas scouts wat die dag teen Jeppe op Ellispark was, was ook by Kearsney!
@BoishaaiPa: Nee.
@tzavosky: I owe you a beer. Should have kept the suspense going for longer. Do you know why?
@Roger: From what I heard the boys are required to be in Cape Town from the 7th.
Well done to the boys selected it is huge honour to get national honours. Well deserved by frightenly talented lads.
See you chaps on the 7th think its gonna be tough Kes only have one game Pts Boys High and we have two tough games in Parktown and Waterkloof before Kes but it should be interesting.
@tzavosky: Did his parents relocate to Krugersdorp?
@Quagga: Monakali also back I believe
Kes Jeppe on 6 August – I wonder if Glade, Simelane and Green will play?
Jo! Mense! Nou met die klomp Boishaaiers in die SA span, is die target nog soveel groter op die span. I hope and trust that the boys will be able to hold their composure, as this fact will definitely be used by others, as even more motivation, to lower the school’s colours.
However, Sean and Elmo are very adapt at keeping the boys modest and focused.
The match in Riversdale between Oakdale and Paarl Gim. is my pick of the day. Our neighbours is slight favourites, but Oakdale is very tough,even more so at home.
@Hooit: Easy answer, Jonno Viljoen, Ben Vorster’s FH who dictated the game against Jeppe so well with excellent kicks to touch and not missing one kick at goal that day. Played for Limpopo in the u.18 Academy Week.
Good acquisition, I just hope he’s over his concussion issues.
@Hooit: now you have my attention. If its a strategic move it may be a move towards CW 2017 aspirations…..hope they don’t move another loosie into the midfield. Wonder if Prinsloo is the man?
@Hooit: Lategan?
@BrotherBear: No he is actually training with the Beeld group again. Forgot to mention the correct guess get a beer next time they see me so no beer for you boetiebeer. It is going to be a big talking point once it is known.
@Hooit: Bakkies
Lets see who have the best ‘sources’ Who is the Monnas coke team flyhalf for tomorrows game against Langley
@Quagga: Wanted to cone watch the Gelpies game but Monnas ‘coke’ team playing against Langley from England and some of the english boys is sleeping over at my place. They playing st 11. Good luck and may the best team win. Must say I enjoyed the Garsfontein parents at CW more than the other Bulls parents.
Matches that I am looking forward to are PBHS taking on KES (with Gordon back in their team as well as Oakdale vs. Paarl Gym, BV vs Pieties, Beth Voortrekker vs Welkom Gym and Rooi Bulle vs Rhinos. Some lekker clashes there.
Can’t wait, tomorrow we can watch some good schoolboy rugby again. See you all at Brugstraat.