MAJOR UNIONS – OVERALL
TEAM | P | W | D | L | CW | AW | GK | U13CW | ||
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TOTAL MATCHES | 13 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | |||||
W | W | W | W | |||||||
1 | WESTERN PROVINCE | 13 | 12 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 4 | |
2 | BLUE BULLS | 13 | 10 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | |
3 | SWD | 13 | 9 | 0 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | |
4 | GOLDEN LIONS | 13 | 8 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 1.5 | |
5 | PUMAS | 13 | 8 | 0 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 2 | |
6 | SHARKS | 13 | 8 | 0 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 3 | |
7 | FREE STATE | 13 | 7 | 0 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | |
8 | GRIQUAS | 13 | 7 | 0 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | |
9 | BOLAND | 13 | 6 | 1 | 6 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 1.5 | |
10 | LIMPOPO BLUE BULLS | 13 | 6 | 0 | 7 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | |
11 | EASTERN PROVINCE | 13 | 5 | 0 | 8 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | |
12 | BORDER | 13 | 5 | 0 | 8 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | |
13 | LEOPARDS | 13 | 5 | 0 | 8 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | |
14 | GRIFFONS | 13 | 5 | 0 | 8 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | |
15 | VALKE | 13 | 4 | 1 | 8 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | |
Rooi Valke | 0.5 |
RESULTS
JULY | TIME | TEAM | TEAM | YOUTH WEEK | ||
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16 | Western Province U18 | 27 | 20 | Golden Lions U18 | U18 Craven Week | |
16 | Pumas U18 | 26 | 23 | Sharks U18 | U18 Craven Week | |
16 | Blue Bulls U18 | 74 | 8 | Free State U18 | U18 Craven Week | |
16 | SWD U18 | 64 | 12 | Eastern Province U18 | U18 Craven Week | |
16 | Border U18 | 64 | 26 | Boland U18 | U18 Craven Week | |
16 | Griquas U18 | 43 | 12 | Valke U18 | U18 Craven Week | |
16 | Leopards U18 | 36 | 24 | Griffons U18 | U18 Craven Week | |
16 | Limpopo Blue Bulls U18 | 35 | 5 | Eastern Province CD U18 | U18 Craven Week | |
16 | Griquas CD U18 | 29 | 8 | Border CD U18 | U18 Craven Week | |
16 | Namibia U18 | 34 | 3 | Zimbabwe U18 | U18 Craven Week | |
U18 Craven Week | ||||||
14 | 15:15 | Golden Lions U18 | 41 | 14 | Blue Bulls U18 | U18 Craven Week |
14 | 13:50 | Free State U18 | 86 | 14 | Leopards U18 | U18 Craven Week |
14 | 12:25 | SWD U18 | 21 | 19 | Border U18 | U18 Craven Week |
14 | 11:00 | Valke U18 | 43 | 24 | Limpopo Blue Bulls U18 | U18 Craven Week |
14 | 9:35 | Eastern Province CD U18 | 62 | 5 | Border CD U18 | U18 Craven Week |
13 | 15:15 | Western Province U18 | 60 | 5 | Sharks U18 | U18 Craven Week |
13 | 13:50 | Pumas U18 | 51 | 15 | Namibia U18 | U18 Craven Week |
13 | 12:25 | Eastern Province U18 | 37 | 33 | Boland U18 | U18 Craven Week |
13 | 11:00 | Griquas U18 | 78 | 5 | Zimbabwe U18 | U18 Craven Week |
13 | 9:35 | Griffons U18 | 34 | 32 | Griquas CD U18 | U18 Craven Week |
12 | 15:15 | Blue Bulls U18 | 48 | 15 | Border U18 | U18 Craven Week |
12 | 13:50 | Golden Lions U18 | 59 | 26 | SWD U18 | U18 Craven Week |
12 | 12:25 | Free State U18 | 68 | 26 | Valke U18 | U18 Craven Week |
12 | 11:00 | Leopards U18 | 26 | 24 | Eastern Province CD U18 | U18 Craven Week |
12 | 9:35 | Limpopo Blue Bulls U18 | 38 | 3 | Border CD U18 | U18 Craven Week |
11 | 15:15 | Sharks U18 | 36 | 24 | Eastern Province U18 | U18 Craven Week |
11 | 13:20 | Western Province U18 | 41 | 20 | Boland U18 | U18 Craven Week |
11 | 11:55 | Pumas U18 | 31 | 29 | Griffons U18 | U18 Craven Week |
11 | 10:30 | Namibia U18 | 54 | 36 | Griquas U18 | U18 Craven Week |
11 | 9:05 | Zimbabwe U18 | 16 | 9 | Griquas CD U18 | U18 Craven Week |
16 | Western Province U18 | 23 | 12 | Blue Bulls U18 | U18 Academy Week | |
16 | Eastern Province U18 | 17 | 15 | Namibia U18 | U18 Academy Week | |
16 | Golden Lions U18 | 29 | 22 | Sharks U18 | U18 Academy Week | |
16 | Griquas U18 | 34 | 12 | Rooi Valke U18 | U18 Academy Week | |
16 | Eastern Province CD U18 | 18 | 13 | Blou Valke U18 | U18 Academy Week | |
16 | Boland U18 | 39 | 3 | Pumas U18 | U18 Academy Week | |
16 | Griffons U18 | 36 | 26 | Leopards U18 | U18 Academy Week | |
16 | Limpopo Blue Bulls U18 | 60 | 14 | Griffons CD | U18 Academy Week | |
16 | Free State U18 | 44 | 10 | Sharks CD U18 | U18 Academy Week | |
16 | SWD U18 | 24 | 10 | Border U18 | U18 Academy Week | |
16 | Griquas CD U18 | 24 | 7 | Border CD U18 | U18 Academy Week | |
16 | Pumas CD U18 | 17 | 15 | SA LSEN U18 | U18 Academy Week | |
14 | 15:15 | Boland U18 | 37 | 28 | Namibia U18 | U18 Academy Week |
14 | 13:55 | Rooi Valke U18 | 21 | 21 | Eastern Province U18 | U18 Academy Week |
14 | 12:35 | Blue Bulls U18 | 77 | 7 | Leopards U18 | U18 Academy Week |
14 | 11:15 | Sharks CD U18 | 32 | 27 | Pumas CD U18 | U18 Academy Week |
14 | 9:55 | Griquas U18 | 43 | 8 | Border CD U18 | U18 Academy Week |
14 | 8:35 | Free State U18 | 62 | 21 | Limpopo Blue Bulls U18 | U18 Academy Week |
13 | 15:15 | SA LSEN U18 | 38 | 26 | Griffons CD | U18 Academy Week |
13 | 13:55 | Sharks U18 | 40 | 25 | Border U18 | U18 Academy Week |
13 | 12:35 | Western Province U18 | 31 | 29 | Golden Lions U18 | U18 Academy Week |
13 | 11:15 | Pumas U18 | 41 | 17 | Griffons U18 | U18 Academy Week |
13 | 9:55 | Blou Valke U18 | 36 | 24 | Griquas CD U18 | U18 Academy Week |
13 | 8:35 | SWD U18 | 30 | 15 | Eastern Province CD U18 | U18 Academy Week |
12 | 15:15 | Boland U18 | 20 | 14 | Free State U18 | U18 Academy Week |
12 | 13:55 | Blue Bulls U18 | 57 | 15 | Eastern Province U18 | U18 Academy Week |
12 | 12:35 | Leopards U18 | 53 | 31 | Limpopo Blue Bulls U18 | U18 Academy Week |
12 | 11:15 | Pumas CD U18 | 46 | 7 | Border CD U18 | U18 Academy Week |
12 | 9:55 | Sharks CD U18 | 63 | 35 | Griquas U18 | U18 Academy Week |
12 | 8:35 | Namibia U18 | 34 | 15 | Rooi Valke U18 | U18 Academy Week |
11 | 15:15 | Western Province U18 | 47 | 0 | SWD U18 | U18 Academy Week |
11 | 13:20 | Sharks U18 | 47 | 44 | Griffons U18 | U18 Academy Week |
11 | 12:00 | Golden Lions U18 | 30 | 11 | Pumas U18 | U18 Academy Week |
11 | 12:00 | Golden Lions U18 | 30 | 11 | Pumas U18 | U18 Academy Week |
11 | 10:40 | Border U18 | 28 | 13 | Griquas CD U18 | U18 Academy Week |
11 | 9:20 | Griffons CD | 19 | 15 | Eastern Province CD U18 | U18 Academy Week |
11 | 8:00 | SA LSEN U18 | 15 | 8 | Blou Valke U18 | U18 Academy Week |
8 | 14:00 | Blue Bulls U16 | 23 | 20 | Sharks U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
8 | 13:00 | Western Province XV U16 | 25 | 19 | Griquas U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
8 | 11:45 | Golden Lions U16 | 34 | 25 | SWD U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
8 | 11:45 | Boland U16 | 31 | 10 | Border U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
8 | 11:45 | Pumas U16 | 33 | 14 | Leopards U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
8 | 11:45 | Free State U16 | 26 | 16 | Boland XV U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
8 | 9:30 | Western Province U16 | 45 | 8 | Eastern Province U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
8 | 9:30 | Limpopo Blue Bulls U16 | 33 | 17 | Valke U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
8 | 9:30 | Griffons U16 | 57 | 5 | Border CD U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
8 | 8:30 | Zimbabwe U16 | 15 | 5 | Namibia U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
6 | 15:45 | Sharks U16 | 10 | 5 | Boland U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
6 | 14:30 | Blue Bulls U16 | 35 | 31 | Golden Lions U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
6 | 13:15 | SWD U16 | 39 | 7 | Leopards U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
6 | 13:15 | Border U16 | 42 | 0 | Boland XV U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
6 | 12:00 | Valke U16 | 20 | 12 | Zimbabwe U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
6 | 12:00 | Western Province U16 | 29 | 7 | Griquas U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
6 | 10:45 | Western Province XV U16 | 34 | 14 | Free State U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
6 | 10:45 | Pumas U16 | 32 | 7 | Namibia U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
6 | 9:30 | Eastern Province U16 | 16 | 6 | Griffons U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
6 | 9:30 | Limpopo Blue Bulls U16 | 46 | 0 | Border CD U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
4 | 16:00 | Boland U16 | 20 | 12 | Western Province U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
4 | 13:00 | Sharks U16 | 51 | 7 | Pumas U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
4 | 12:45 | Blue Bulls U16 | 62 | 15 | Limpopo Blue Bulls U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
4 | 12:45 | Golden Lions U16 | 50 | 15 | Free State U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
4 | 12:45 | Griquas U16 | 13 | 10 | Eastern Province U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
4 | 11:45 | SWD U16 | 20 | 0 | Namibia U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
4 | 10:30 | Leopards U16 | 38 | 11 | Border U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
4 | 10:30 | Boland XV U16 | 34 | 24 | Valke U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
4 | 10:30 | Western Province XV U16 | 13 | 12 | Griffons U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
4 | 10:30 | Zimbabwe U16 | 41 | 0 | Border CD U16 | U16 Grant Khomo Week |
8 | 13:00 | Western Province U13 | 12 | 5 | Sharks U13 | U13 Craven Week |
8 | 10:45 | Blue Bulls U13 | 38 | 20 | Valke U13 | U13 Craven Week |
8 | 10:45 | SWD U13 | 23 | 14 | Golden Lions U13 | U13 Craven Week |
8 | 10:45 | Pumas U13 | 14 | 7 | Leopards U13 | U13 Craven Week |
8 | 10:45 | Boland U13 | 7 | 7 | Limpopo Blue Bulls U13 | U13 Craven Week |
8 | 9:45 | Free State U13 | 31 | 26 | Griffons U13 | U13 Craven Week |
8 | 8:30 | Namibia U13 | 18 | 14 | Zimbabwe U13 | U13 Craven Week |
8 | 8:30 | Griquas U13 | 14 | 3 | Border U13 | U13 Craven Week |
8 | 8:30 | Eastern Province U13 | 48 | 0 | Border CD U13 | U13 Craven Week |
7 | 16:00 | Western Province U13 | 11 | 10 | Blue Bulls U13 | U13 Craven Week |
7 | 15:00 | Sharks U13 | 15 | 14 | Valke U13 | U13 Craven Week |
7 | 14:00 | Golden Lions U13 | 15 | 10 | Boland U13 | U13 Craven Week |
7 | 13:00 | SWD U13 | 17 | 13 | Limpopo Blue Bulls U13 | U13 Craven Week |
7 | 12:00 | Free State U13 | 25 | 15 | Leopards U13 | U13 Craven Week |
7 | 11:00 | Griffons U13 | 49 | 17 | Eastern Province U13 | U13 Craven Week |
7 | 11:00 | Border U13 | 30 | 7 | Zimbabwe U13 | U13 Craven Week |
7 | 10:00 | Pumas U13 | 36 | 35 | Griquas U13 | U13 Craven Week |
7 | 10:00 | Border CD U13 | 5 | 3 | Namibia U13 | U13 Craven Week |
5 | 16:00 | Valke U13 | 16 | 12 | Free State U13 | U13 Craven Week |
5 | 15:00 | Western Province U13 | 5 | 3 | Golden Lions U13 | U13 Craven Week |
5 | 14:00 | Blue Bulls U13 | 5 | 0 | Limpopo Blue Bulls U13 | U13 Craven Week |
5 | 13:00 | Sharks U13 | 10 | 5 | Griquas U13 | U13 Craven Week |
5 | 12:00 | SWD U13 | 21 | 14 | Leopards U13 | U13 Craven Week |
5 | 11:00 | Boland U13 | 29 | 22 | Griffons U13 | U13 Craven Week |
5 | 11:00 | Eastern Province U13 | 27 | 12 | Pumas U13 | U13 Craven Week |
5 | 10:00 | Border U13 | 12 | 10 | Namibia U13 | U13 Craven Week |
5 | 10:00 | Zimbabwe U13 | 12 | 6 | Border CD U13 | U13 Craven Week |
4 | 14:00 | Leopards U13 | 14 | 5 | Boland U13 | U13 Craven Week |
4 | 14:00 | Western Province U13 | 28 | 19 | Pumas U13 | U13 Craven Week |
4 | 11:45 | Blue Bulls U13 | 14 | 12 | SWD U13 | U13 Craven Week |
4 | 11:45 | Griffons U13 | 45 | 0 | Border CD U13 | U13 Craven Week |
4 | 11:45 | Golden Lions U13 | 22 | 22 | Free State U13 | U13 Craven Week |
4 | 9:30 | Griquas U13 | 25 | 3 | Zimbabwe U13 | U13 Craven Week |
4 | 9:30 | Sharks U13 | 22 | 19 | Namibia U13 | U13 Craven Week |
4 | 9:30 | Limpopo Blue Bulls U13 | 34 | 0 | Border U13 | U13 Craven Week |
4 | 9:30 | Valke U13 | 19 | 7 | Eastern Province U13 | U13 Craven Week |
@Bush: 20th also Boishaai at home vs Drostdy unless thats changed?
@McCulleys Workshop: It’s usually a halfway stop between anywhere and nowhere…depends on where you planning to go or not go!..The Rawsonville boys never miss it as a pitstop on their way to Newlands..sometimes they make the rugby, most of the times they don’t!..
@McCulleys Workshop: Whahaha sounds like fun.
@BoishaaiPa: I’ve been drinking at the Klapmuts hotel after a Nederberg Auction. It was very entertaining! Bush that would be a good spot.
You could scrum against the local butcher like you did last time and bring that rodeo bull of yours!
Thank you for all the congrats on JJ. We very proud of him here at Glenwood. Next year SA team. You go boy! Good luck to Maritzburg on Saturday. Make us proud.
@Bush: Then you will have to stay outside of Paarl..lol..we dont have half star places!…Maybe the Klapmuts Hotel..about 15 k’s from Paarl down the N1…or T’s old haunt of Pniel..between Stellenbosch and Franschoek…
@BoishaaiPa: I googled Grand Roche Hotel, that’s to posh for me. Need a place with half a star, then I will feel at home.
@BoishaaiPa: Thanks hope you not pulling a Tempe Tiger on me???? thank goodness for Google
@Bush: Plenty of decent accommodation in Paarl….Try the Grand Roche hotel..grand old luxury hotel close to Brugstreet with one of the best restaurants in SA, Bosmans.
@Hooit: Many Thanks???????
@Bush: In the same order 12 August, 16 August and 20 August. Fri, Tues, Sat
@Hooit: Lekker thanks. Any dates??? Then are there any Paarl bloggers than can hook me and a mate up with some decent accommodation (forget the Tempe Tigers fenced off area) keen to get down to Paarl for that game.
@Bush: City Park stadium. Bishops and Paarl Bois
Where are the SA Schools games been held?
@Grasshopper: Come on be nice???????????????
@Greenman: Geluk met JJ
@Speartackle: Gaan kyk na my keuses wat ek vroeer die week gepost,,,ekself het hom ook op vleuel gesit. Ek dink hy kan altwee met welslae verrig
@Bush: well from all your ant-glenwood posts one finds it hard to work out if you being sarcastic or serious!
@BoishaaiPa: good points, well this is were lessons are learnt. Maybe going forward he should concentrate on the position he prefers.
@Grasshopper: On the hooker issue..I too rate Larkham as a very good player, but I think he was done a disservice by his school playing him at flank the whole year. Hooker’s primary role is at scrum time and line-outs. Against Sharks the game was more loose and he could play his type of game and the Sharks line-outs was not that good. He came on in the 2nd half against the Lions in the final and missed 3 or 4 line out throws. The first line outs WP lost in the game. the WP scrum was also under more pressure in the 2nd half as the game got tight. I think that 2nd half might have cost him his chances at higher honors and he might not have been a sharp as he could be.
@Grasshopper: Hopper, I’m trying to be sympathic. Stop your insecurities. Do you enjoy abuse or can you at least say something nice to your opposition.
@Bush: love the sarcasm but Van Rooyen is unlucky. He does have a Sharks Academy bursary from KERF though. Good tight heads are hard to find and he will become a very good one.
@Bush: I thought Holtshauzen was robbed.
@Grasshopper: Pity Voster and your Tight Head prop didn’t get the nod. Would have been lovely to see those two in either side.
Lots of spies(eyes) going to be at College on Saturday.
@Greenman: The rest are on their way to France????????
@Greenman: Congrats on JJ Greenman.
@Greenman: selectors saw hopper come out the closet with name and pic threatening all those who dared criticize JJ so they knew he was a must for at least A side hehehe!
quite a few missing in action. They got the quotas right and then slotted in the rest. Eish! Nothin agt tht the boys who did not choose themselves but I feel for the rest!
Very glad JJ made it. Richardson I would have included as utility forward and not as hooker. But then again, what do we know. leave that to the gentlemen that are informed.
Congrats to all the boys, and their parents, in the two SA sides. As always, there is some surprises , for sure, and some players very unlucky not to have been chosen.
However! These youngsters did not select themselves, and therefore needs our support. Obviously very proud of the 8 Boishaai youngsters and captain Salmaan Moerat. He is a quality young man , who is modest, well mannered and down to earth.
These youngsters must now grab the opportunity, and enjoy the moment!.
For those deserving of election, but did not make it! Just remember that the success rate from SA Schools members making it it big after school, is not at all very high. So! If you really have the talent, and is prepared to work your butt off, there is certainly still opportunities available after school.
Well done to all the players that made the sides! Give the Europeans hell – especially the poms!
Without wanting to detract from any selections, I’m very surprised at Cabous Eloff and Tyrone Green missing out on the top team. They must be bitterly disappointed – especially the former, who made the top team last year already.
@Hound Insider: well done Dylan, awesome achievement and well deserved, although in the wrong position!
@Quagga: The more I read your posts, the more I respect you. You and akw are real school rugby lovers who put the boys’ interests first.
I also thought that remark was bad taste!
Baie geluk aan die jongmanne wat verkies was. Sien uit na volgende jaar , sodat jongmanne wat nie die spanne gemaak het hul ware potensiaal kan wys in n sterk span.
@BrotherBear: Die B.steroid grappie is al holrug gery boetie beer , wil die hoof krediet gee vir sy bemarking en die manier hoe hy die ouers en sy kind op n pedestal sit en daarna sy skool verkoop . Bemark in die Leeu area .
Congrats to all the boys who made the national squads. Super proud of Keagan Glade and Mark Snyman and the 5 other Lions players. Happy for JJ vd Mescht as well. Sorry for PJ Jacobs (Lions #8), Chuiner van Rooyen (Lions #15), Larkham (WP hooker) and for those brave players that know they could have been there had it not been for serious injury such as Tiaan van der Merwe (hooker Helpies) and Ruan Vermaak (Monnas lock).
Really bad taste to spoil a moment like this.
@Bush: Thats his wife..too much vodka and footlongs tends to damage the voicebox
Great to see Dylan Richardson in the SA A team.
@Speartackle: I think the selectors decided to move Janco as an option at wing….just saw the names on SS…..
@Bush: lol….its my bodyguard…..phone now
@Speartackle: I just tried to call, some Russian dude answered asking for my credit card details????
@Bush: my number is 082 442 7110……I promise it’s not Wonder Lounge number
I thought v Heyningen a 13….why on the wing?
@Muzi: Due to poor discipline issues there is 1 player I would have excluded from the SA A side. By reputation everybody will know.
@MikeSt: Groot voordeel van Helpies is die grootte of klein klasse wat hul het. Glo nie met die naam wat EG nou het dat Oosranders elders wil rugby speel nie. Met die huidige o17 groep is daar ekstra spesiale verwing gedoen deur Helpies. Meer o13 Leeus is na Helpies toe as wat Monnas toe gekom het.
It’s a pretty decent SA “A” side….
1. Cabous Eloff
2. Schalk Erasmus
3. Keagan Glade
4. JJ van der Mescht
5. Jaco van Tonder
6. Mark Snyman
7. Ryno Pieterse
8. Dian Schoonees
9. Zinedine Booysen
10. Tyrone Green
11. Janco van Heyningen
12. Louritz Van der Schyff (captain)
13. Sicelo Tole
14. Cameron Hufke
15. Abner van Reenen
@MikeSt: soos ek dit het verstaan julle net Akademie in die rugby konteks: ‘akademie span” – hoe nou weer? Of is dit graad in spierbou met B.steroid as hoof vak. Hehehe
Jammer oor Beytel – sy kans sal kom.
Well done to all the players that made the two sides. Well done to the parents for the support you gave your kids and the belief you had in them. Well done Hopper for JJ getting in the side. I’m sure Greenman is stoked.
Vir die oos rand ouer wat nie sy kind finansieel smous nie en as n rugbyspeler ja dan sal EGJ die logiese keuse wees en saam.met.die is daar n massiewe fokus op die akademie aan die gang.
I feel for Liam Larken, best hooker at the tourno. Well done to JJ van der Mescht making SA A team, well done boy! SA Schools next year.
@Hooit: deel heeltemal jou sentiment op die akademie. Soos verstaan is daar toelatings kriteria by Helpies op akademie.
Wonderbaarlik word dit gewaive net wille van rugby. So is akademie nog die prioriteit.
@Speartackle: Lekker, Toti Rugby has a golf day and I have a space in my four ball. I thought of you instantly as you are a new kid on the block. If you would like to play, that would be great. I will get Beet to send you my details.
@MikeSt: Ek neem aan daai opmerking gaan Monnas se kant toe ook kom. Meeste skole se dik beursies bied kinders dieselfde. Die bedrag kan verskil want die skool en koshuis gelde verskil. Die kind en sy ouers moet dan besluit waarheen hul, hul kinders wil stuur. 4 jaar terug of 5 jaar terug toe die huidige o17 groep moes besluit was Kempton rugby goed maar nie so goed soos Monnas nie. Op akademiese gebied kan nie Monnas of EG met Helpies kompeteer nie. Ons bly in Randfontein maar agv my seun se rugby sou die plaaslike skole sy moontlike loopbaan in in rugby gekelder het en ons moes kies tussen Monnas, Helpies en Paul Roos. Monnas was nog altyd sy 1ste keuse en dis naby die huis so dit was n maklike besluit. Ek glo met die naam wat EG opgebou het die afgelope 3/4 jaar is dit nou makliker vir plaaslike kinders om EG hul 1ste keuse te maak.
@Bush: yes Bushy
8 from hjs. I thought maybe 5
@Speartackle: Spear do you play golf?
Well done to those who made it! For the rest, never give up.
SA team and SA A team. Wow!
@Speartackle: @Andre T: gatvol vir die manne met die dik beursies wat te kak sleg is om hulle eie ontwikkeling te doen en dan die easy way out vat.
@MikeSt: Vol beurse met cash…..dat ouers hul kinders so verkoop walg my
http://www.sarugby.net/news/moerat-van-der-schyff-lead-sa-schools-teams/
Baie geluk aan al die seuns met hulle verkiesing. Die wat dit nie gemaak het nie is nie die einde van die wereld nie baie manne wat laasjaar wel daar was speel nie u19 currie cup nie. So hou aan werk
Baie geluk Garsie Bere …. 2 Spelers in die SA skole span en 3 Spelers in die SA Akademiese Skolespan … Welgedaan al die spelers en afrigters !!! Trots op julle !!
@MikeSt: Daarsy Mike, kak hulle uit
Geluk aan almal en spesiaal vir die Monna seuns. Het al met St Johns gesê PJ en Nathan gaan dit maak. Christopher jou doring en tough luck Ruan Vermaak, jou dae sal kom
@BrotherBear: sonder om enige klem van Sa Skole keuses en die prestasie van die seuns af te haal.
Kan jy dalk bietjie lig werp op julle werwing vanuit Oos Rand laerskole.
WELL DONE Mark Snyman – Helpmekaar/Lions, for being included in the SA schools academy side. Baby steps for Helpies. Next year 2 to 4 more. Sad for our other deserving players – never give up boys. You are monsters in your own right. Hard work will pay off.
@Green Mamba: Prop Nathan Mcbeth and Hooker PJ Botha SA schools. Lock Cristopher Havenga SA A team
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: WP/Bulls Under 19’s/Under 21’s have been dominating the junior CC tournaments for the past decade….both unions IMHO have better structures…..lions are slowly catching up….
@knowthegame: I HATE the lions & I live in Jozi….no everybody has fallen in love with them bud….Derick Hougaard/Handre Pollard & Morne Steyn all became Springbok 10’s when they signed for the Bulls…..when last did WP produce/develop a Springbok 10?!?!…..50 years ago?!?!?…Damian Willemse will stay with WP…..it will be interesting to see if he can leapfrog Du Preez/Chait/Van Der Bank/Jean-Luc & Thomson as the first choice Stormers 10 in 2017/2018….
@Hooit: just joking, between 7 and 8 tonight
@Green Mamba: Have u seen the teams?
@AndreT: my kommentaar oor tale bietjie tong in die kies, maar manne moenie die waarde van skool opvoeding en prestasie onderskat nie. Ouens wat net op rugby fokus beperk hulself. Daar moet ‘n plan B wees en ‘n goeie akademiese basis kan baie deure oopmaak. Ekonomiese agtergrond is nie rerig relevant, maar kan help in seker situasies.
@Hooit: I’m afraid your beloved team has only 1 in Academy side
I am not saying that Monnas will have 6. They should have 3 with a slight chance of 4.
Monnas 3 players in SA sides and another 3 with a very slim change. Helpmekaar maybe 1. Jeppe possible 2. Kes 1. ????
@BrotherBear: Ag nee man….jy klink alweer ontoerekenend vatbaar
i am amaze at your guys information, the “lions pay more” you gents memories are short.A few years ago,the Lions had nothing,was nothing now suddenly everybody has a been a Lions supporter or it was it’s second choice team and their structures..bla..bla bla. But by far the best headline or story is,that the Bulls believe they are best equipped to develop the WP, CW no 10.That is absolute the the statement of the month
@Andre T: Baie snaaks…jou observasie spot on.
@Buffel:
May well be who you think it is. It’s a loose forward with not much time on his side. I also have someone in mind – the suspense is killing me. Sad, sad sad!
I agree on the punishment for dopers. A life ban would be the best deterrent. Maybe temporary bans can just be applicable at school level with boys getting counselling. At professional level – ‘licence’ should be taken for good. As you would an accountant bust for cooking books.
Heard that the SA Schools teams will play on Friday 12 Aug at City Park, Athlone, Wednesday 17 Aug. at Bishops and the finals at Boishaai on Saturday 20 Aug.
According to a very strong rumour SA schools teams to be announced on TMO tonight. Do not know which half.
@Andre T: ten minste kan die “afrikaanse super skool” seuntjies ‘n tweede en meestal ‘n derde taal besig. Dink van die ander manne wat jy so ondersteun sal maar sukkel om buite Krugersdorp en Danville aan te pas. Girls daar gaan ook vir meer as spiere en kakpraat. Hulle wil darrem so bietjie getreat en pamperlang word, met gewone salaries gaan dit maar neuk.
As jou manne nie eers ‘n engelse lynstaan call kan ontsyfer nie, wat de hel gaan hulle oorsee doen? Hehehehe
Speartackle, do you play golf???
Bedorwe afrikaanse superskool seuntjies sal baie moeilik aanpas in Frankryk. Ek sou eerder sê hulle moet so 2 of 3 jaar wag en seker maak hulle is onder mammie se rok uit voor hulle gaan.
Die kinders ‘who wants it the most badly’ en nie opgepiep is in ouerhuise of luukse skoolkoshuise, moet nou gaan. Hulle sal dit maak. Onthou ook net een ding, Europa is nie 3de wereld soos RSA, daar is ander geleenthede ook vir die wat honger genoeg is. Gebruik daai 4 jaar om burgerskap te kry of om ryk te trou en jou deure is baie meer oop as daai outjies wat in die oggende op Loftus so bietjie ronddraf dan by Tribeca in Lynnwood Bridge gaan meisies kyk en die res van die dag golfballe wegslaan op Woodhill en na so 2 jaar op die Boland se bench sit
@Buffel: agreed! I mean Chiliboy getting a 2nd chance is wrong, same with Fat Stevens. Unfortunately cycling and athletics are riddled with cheaters. I fear rugby is too, especially at school level!
@Playa:If it is who I think it is, its sad. But by outing others it is the right thing to do but it doesn’t detract from the fact that he is also an offender. Unfortunately you need to take the pain too. The only way we will rid the sport of doping is by giving life bans, period. So if you are caught, you are gone. No second chances. In this case, age could be against the individual hence trying to cut a deal. Let’s hope it comes out soon but on news 24 there are a host of new claims .
@robbie: ja moet saamstem dat die Franse aanbiedinge baie meer rooskleurig in die media geskets word as die harde werklikheid. Die “salarisse” ter sprake is gelykstaande aan minimum loon in Frankryk. Ons kinders se ogies glinster oor die swak rand en dit na baie geld klink, maar ouens vergeet jy eet en bly in Euros nie in rande. Hoop ouers neem goed ingeligte besluite en vergewis hulle van die realiteite in die verband. Is natuurlik bly waar dit werklik vir ‘n jongman ‘n geleentheid inhou, want ons weet dit is minder die jaar in SA
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: I did not say the WP structures are better..you said the Lions structures are better..again I ask, based on what evidence do you proclaim this?
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: You still not answering the question on what makes the Lions structures so much better. You said their structures are better than WP…on what do you base that statement?
@McCulleys Workshop: (dis)honour among thieves!
It’s standard procedure. You get given an opportunity to rat out a few people – preferably big names – and your ban could be halved.
‘n Mens moet nie te veel lees in die “steel” van talent uit die WP nie. WP beskik oor ‘n magdom talent en talle spelers van elders sluit hier aan. Ek sou dink die WP se begroting is ook beperk en hulle kan ook nie onbeperk kontrakte uit deel nie. Natuurlik sou ek die drie Boishaaiers gekontrakteer het, maar die WP moet ook kyk na wat hulle reeds het in die onder 20s en verder. Hoeveel senters en heelagters het hulle reeds onder kontrak ? Moerat is ‘n kans wat hulle moet vat. Not as easy as everybody thinks.
Die kwessie van Frankryk is ook lagwekkend. Wat dink julle wag op die jong manne in Frankryk ? ‘n Vriendelike omie wat omsien na die spelers en hulle in watte toedraai ? EXPLOITATION !!!!! Hulle het geen lojaliteit nie. Wanneer jy nie meer waarde het nie, kom jy terug.
@BoishaaiPa: With all the talent in the WP, i dont expect anything less than winning most games, doesnt mean the structures are better…
Ok guys, off to the Langkloof for some hunting….speak again on Monday
@Playa: Cut a deal for a lessor sentence by outing other users? That’s honorable. EPLeaks
@GreenBlooded: It’s amazing what a dash of House can do to a double shot of Eton.
@Playa: That’s sad, to be honest they should lift the ban on doping in sport. Much the same they do in body building.
@GreenBlooded: Hi, you will be surprised many House guys carry flick knives.
@Bush:
How does the House gentry enjoy having a Toti ruffian in their midst? I mean standard issue in the pub in Toti is Carling quart, not a Pimms and Dry lemon with a dash of bitters…..
@Grasshopper: Such a great pity.A Kings player also soon to be announced…and unlike Hadebe he doesn’t come from money.He’s apparently trying to cut a deal by outing others involved hence nothing’s been said yet.This could open up a can of worms.
@McCulleys Workshop: He played for Toti last year. Lekker oke, just a pity it’s ended his career.
You must see the lock the Tempe Tigers used for Hopper.
@Grasshopper: Oh ok, do you think he ever went to the Tempe Tigers?
@McCulleys Workshop: Yep Ville OB, but I didn’t want to jump onto that like some on this site do. To be honest it has got no reflection on the school, he has been out a few years now.
@Grasshopper: Hop, you reckon he’s a Ville lad?
@McCulleys Workshop:
The school in the leafy burbs. I doubt he was roiding at school though. Ville internal investigation department would have picked it up for sure.
@McCulleys westville if I’m not mistaken
@Grasshopper: Where did Hadebe go to school Hop?
@BoishaaiPa: Amen. It’s swings and round abouts. A bit like Spear and Andre T playing musical chairs with the Tigers.
@GreenBlooded: Eish, this is why we need to stop doping at school level; http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/hadebe-has-quit-rugby-sharks-confirm-20160720
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Carl..please explain how the Lions structures is so much better?…They havnt won u/19 or u/20 CC comp for a while and only the last season or two are becoming a force again in SA rugby at senior level. I fail to see how their structures are so much better than WP or any other union for that matter. If their structures where so good how come they got their asses whipped in Arg?
@Oakdale supporter: he was impressive a huge loss on the day…definitely a set back when he left the field.
@odie15: That’s Khanya not Shauna hehehe don’t you love autocorrect
@Kattes-Strofes: I personally think you take a big gamble on playing/choosing rugby and try and make a career out of it. Obviously you want to give yourself a chance, but i personally think…your odds are so so small. Is it worth it?
@MikeSt: I agree Mike! It will always be very difficult for parents, especially those who have a close bond with their kids. In my opinion, one must first see whether the youngster truly have a secure future locally, before considering options abroad. Later on in his career, he can consider moving. But that is just my personal view, and others may differ!
@Kattes-Strofes: Gepraat van die Crusaders – een van die beste franchises van alle tye….Sien hieronder n lokfilm van die beste rugbyspeler van alle tye…ONGELOOFLIK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ0MmhGQ4d8
@Andre T: Ek hoor jou T’tjie! Hoop net nie die Crusaders sing Saterdag daai bekende ou advertensie nie ! Icy cold! Rich and gold ! Down a Lion! Feel satisfied!
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Thats the preferred option but how do you let your kid a 18 or 19 or even 20 year old get on a plane and just leave 10000kms away.
Difficult decisions those
@odie15: In fact i would go straight over seas to go and master my trade…
@odie15: Yes, he already played in CW last week. As far as I know it is only the scrummie that is injured, but the CW scrumhalf who played wing againts Boishaai will be at 9 with new 11.
@Kattes-Strofes: @Carl de Kock aka Calamari: I know duimpie is interested in going to lions due to his brother already being there. Gianni wasn’t on anyone’s radar until after Affies match. Khanya and Manny well WP knew their abilities for a long time now but poor amateur apathy from union and loyalty expectations unbelievable. The only player WP wasn’t ever going to allow leave was Salmaan. His pricetag is high. Seems they were willing to lock him in and gamble with others staying. The 5 of them should have been kept regardless but appears the Union too amateur and weak in decision making.
@Andre T: Winning teams make recruitment so much easier. Not just the money I think
@Kattes-Strofes: Join the Lions where #heroesaremade
@Kattes-Strofes: Nothing one can do about it. Money talks, i would also go to the Lions if i had a choice between WP and Lions to be honest. Much better structures too.
Big drama in WP regarding young players signing at other unions. Although the focus is currently on the 3 Boishaai youngsters and the Paul Roos no.10, I heard from reliable contacts, that their is a few more looking for greener pastures. Interesting times indeed!
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: pity not televised would be good game to watch. Has the wing recovered from hitting upright in scoring his try vs Boishaai @Oakdale supporter: ?
@Oakdale supporter: Posthumus moet sy ding doen voor….sien uit na n baie goeie wedstryd, ek sal toevallig in Riversdal wees daardie tyd, ek sal beslis kom kyk.
@odie15: Recovery na CW is een ding. Ek hoop darem die voordeel vir Oakdale is dat die hele eerste span wedstryd fiks gebly het. Dit gaan close wees op Riversdal en ek dink ons skuld Gim ‘n pak. Daar word reen vir more en Saterdag voorspel, so die veld gaan swaar wees.
Paarl Boys/ ‘Bosch live streaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEcit5Q8t2A
@McCulleys Workshop: So it seems on. Weekend Die Beeld comp, Affies warmup for GW, and WP league back on track this weekend. Having CW final week of holidays not the best for recovery. GIM V OAK The biggest game this weekend. Quite a trek to Riversdal already. Bishops v Landbou also big 1. Boishaai v Bosche and Paul Roos v Wynberg.
@BrotherBear: …i am too scared to ask…’why not’…
@Calamari: on 2nd thought – don’t ask him about the Tempe Tigers ;-)
@BrotherBear: Some of you might know him……he is about 55 years old now…..Dawid Willemse
@Calamari: ask your father in law what his involvement was with the Tempe Tigers.
Ek wed julle R10.00 as die SA Skolespan aangekondig word gaan Pumas 9 Jaco Joubert se naam daar wees?
He already told me
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Then ask him about the ‘FooTlong’ myth
My father in law was at Tempe too…parabat
I can vouch for that. I was with AT and BHP was nowhere to be found. There was one very ugly looking feller lying in the one corner of the beer tent , ” sleeping”,with an overwhelming smell of rum but I dont know who he was.
@Speartackle: sure it was not for cocktail sausage with dipping sauce.
@Quagga:
Stokers is my local pub. Within stumbling distance from my house. Next time you are there I’ll come meet you for a dop.
@BoishaaiPa: He only pitches in Bloem
@Grasshopper: Mmmm…I see my cousin’s son there as a lock. Watch out for that T.
@McCulleys Workshop: Do not believe BHP. I went looking for them and they were nowhere.
@Greenman: Yeah, I have the following back for 2017;
Jordan Clarke – prop (GK)
Brendon Schwulst – Hooker (Academy)
Jacques Thyssen – hooker (GK)
JJ Van der Mescht – lock (Craven)
Eduard Laubscher – lock (1st team – GK 2015)
Etienne Terblanche – lock (1st team – GK 2015)
Lunga Ncube – lock (GK)
Jonathan O’Neil – loose forward (Academy)
Jaden Jooste – scrumhalf (1st team – GK 2015)
Graham Hunt – scumhalf (Academy)
Jaden Hendrickse – scrumhalf (GK)
Dylan Pretorius – flyhalf (GK)
Morne Van Rensburg – flyhalf (1st team – GK 2015)
Siyanda Cele – wing (GK)
Rynhard Jonke – centre (GK)
JC Conradie – wing/centre (Academy)
Conan le Fleur – centre (Academy)
Aaron Larue – wing (GK)
Dylan Kruger – fullback (Academy)
Probably a few in the 2nds and 3rds too….
@BoishaaiPa: That wasn’t me….it was Andre T….and as far as I know he was there
@McCulleys Workshop: lol…..Andre T thinks he is long…
@McCulleys Workshop: and he kept me and PaulRoospa waiting in the beertent at Paarl Gim and did not pitch..
@Speartackle: Andre Foo Tlong?
@McCulleys Workshop: Bog and I have some connection….way back when I was in the army at Tempe and Bog at Grey…his girlfriend dumped him for me cause he was too small…..a roadhouse in Bloem even named a fooTlong after me
@McCulleys Workshop: yes would have been nice. Had to settle for enjoying the festive atmosphere at Stokers on most nights Maybe next year. If its in JHB next year we braai on our ranch just out of town and make an occasion of it. I’d love to meet some of the guys (like BrotherBear 8) )
@Quagga: Great story, maybe Bgog, Boishaaipa and Spear can come up with some connection…
Sorry we didn’t get to Braai.
@Speartackle:
You must be careful of video taping under age boys in the gym. You can get a bad reputation……..
So guys its a small world. Watching the Lions AW side battle the Sharks AW at Loftus and I was very impressed by the Sharks hooker playing in direct opposition to my son. Afterwards my boy raves about his opponent and their individual little game there on the dark side in the front row. As it turns out the two teams meet again at the AW and they square up again. By then I have been keenly interested in their contest. My wife is a photographer and walks across to me and tells me there is the boy’s dad. Being the rugbymal guy I am, I take a walk over to the corner to shake his hand. Turns out the dad is Mr. Prinsloo and we were at school together in the 80’s battling it out in KZN against schools (when the waves weren’t good) like Westville and Kearsney for Gelofte (those days Gelofte was actually quite good). Now we meet on this blog again. Small world.
@h2o: dankie ek stem. My seun geniet dit baie om teen jou Hendrik te speel. Lekker fisies. Hy skryf hom baie hoog aan. Bly om nou te sien jy is op die blog ook.
@Quagga: hel dit was nice om jou na 27 jaar weer te gesien het en dan speel ons jongmanne nogal teenmekaar….. great comments mnr
@Greenman: Very exciting indeed. The under16a front row seems quite good too..
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: ja en goed gedoen in daai tyd!
@Grasshopper: I did notwatch the game but you know my gripe about playing players out of position. He is the 6 flank for GW 1 team. We have a compliment of 13 players currently playing 1 st squad and bench available for next year 2017 par two props. Exciting!
and we have had a great year 2016 so far!
@MikeSt: Yep, that is OK. I genuinely think some of our boys are too gym built and not athletic enough. Smith machine power press, jump squats, clean/jerk/press, deadlifts etc…rowing, rowing, rowing…
@AffieOuer: Serdyn het net soos 15 -20 min gespeel?
@Greenman: Yes, but I saw him playing No8 on the 1st day.
@Grasshopper: Explosive and resistance training and then at around 14 YO loose weights can come in. Squats and the more lower back and large joint driven exercises should be slowly and gradually incorporated from 15 upwards only as per my thinking.
@MikeSt: Yes, I am aware of this. That is the current thinking but I don’t agree with it. My GP cousin doesn’t either. It’s a bit like Adkins and Banting diet, some swear by it others think it’s a pile of dogs do. 13 year old’s should be working on explosive exercises and not weights..
@AffieOuer: Kyk ek praat nie die gameplan deesdae goed nie. Dink dit is vervelige bashing rugby by meeste van die tyd en gaan lank vat om dit uit die jongmanne te kry.
Ek sien elke week hoe seuns die gaping wat voor hulle oopmaak nie speel nie want hulle moet binne patroon bly.
Kyk hoeveel off loads deesdae geprobeer maak word deur ons ouens maar dan gaan die bal verlore agv van n aanslaan op die pop pass wat te hard gegee word want die skills level is net nie daar om die beweging verder te vat nie.
@MikeSt: Interessant hoe daai gameplan ons juis in die steek gelaat het in die onlangse 0/20 toernooi. Ons het maar min sukses daarmee. Waar spanne die tradisionele gameplan speel soos WP Saterdag is dit steeds problematies vir spanne met die verligte nuwe rugby gameplan. Sien Serdyn het maar net 3 turnovers teen Leeus bewerkstellig…
@Grasshopper: Jonathan o Neil is a flank and played AW Gr11. We are going to cook next year if all remains.
@Grasshopper: No offence intended but go and do some research (and I have done that a few years ago and have been in consultation with sports medicine Dr’s locally) on that and you’ll find medically there is nothing wrong with a aged 13 kid to start doing weights with obvious limitations to certain exercises such as squats, dead lifts etc as its not just about the weights its about technique.
@Quagga: Dylan gr 11 played Sharks 15 and JC played centre gr 11.Both GW boys
@BoishaaiPa: Moet jouself tog nie natmaak nie. Ek het gereageer op Spear se stelling/vraag. Praat van tienerdogtertjie !
I think the KZN team is going to be a lot better next year than this year. Many boys are grade 11, added to that a relatively strong under16 group coming up. Glenwood will be better than this year too.
@MikeSt: true, my fighting weight. But I took bodybuilding seriously, even doing some comps. I was pushing big! Not the best now though with stuffed joints & muscles. These kids are starting pushing weights at 13 which isn’t good. My best ever 1 rep was 170kg and I almost died, proper rep to chest with no spotting. A healthy 18 year old forward should be doing 10 reps between 100kg & 120kg without roids.
@Quagga: he started this year at hooker before injury – maybe AW a more realistic bet
@Groentrui: Rugby is net eenvoudig nie meer soos wat hy gespeel is 10 jaat + terug nie.
Vededigings lyne is van so n aard dat jy moet spelers op die carry he om verdedigers te probeer intrek.
Die wat loosies deesade op die punte rondstaan is omdat rugby n channel gedrewe game geraak het en die loosies nie meer by elke los bal moet kompeteer nie. Turnover ball is nou die verantwoordelikheid van nie net meer loosies nie maar enige speler wat in n posisie is.
Die bogenoemde is veral op die SA spanne van toepassing. Aus en NZ gebruik nog die tipiese fetcher op turnovers te bewerkstellig.
Interresant is dat die Top Sa speler met turnovers is Andre Esterhuizen die jaar met Super rugby en hy is algeheel in die 4de posisie. Hier is ons top turnover ouens die jaar
Andre Esterhuizen 19
Chris Cloete 16
Arno Botha 14
Jaco Kriel 13
Paul Schoeman 13
Adriaan Strauss 13
Jannes Kirsten 12
Ettienne Oosthuizen 12
@Grasshopper: You did not specify 10 reps earlier agree with you on that. But doing a 1 rep max weight test a lot of them will push 130kg to 150kg if not more.
And remember you only weighed 95kg (more like a nr 9 or 10 weight nowadays)
@Roger: The other four guys will be there in the CW, AW or PUK for sure. Probably all of them have a realistic chance to make the CW 23.
@Roger: Are you sure Bandile has a realistic chance next year to make the KES 1XV or the Golden Lions teams and if so in which position?
@Speartackle: One was in the Craven Week team – played on the wing in the final – the other is injured
@Hooit: injured
@Roger: Where was Bandile this year?
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Kry die man baie jammer. Dit was ‘n hartseer gesig toe hy met ‘n swaar verbinde linkerknie, op krukke met ‘n regter knie wat hang om die veld aan sukkel. My hart gaan uit na die seun – laaste twee jaar min tot geen rugby gespeel. 10 min op die veld by CW en toe is alles verby. Wonder of hy na dese ‘n terugkeer na die rugbyveld sal maak?
@Roger: What happened to those Parktown brothers?
@Quagga: yes – he is quite special – a back three of Prinsloo, Carey and Mpeku would be quite entertaining!
@Hooit: at least 5 from KES next year – Gordon, Glade, Mpeku, Hlalu, Bandile – maybe Pheku.
@Grasshopper: I have seen Hendrik Prinsloo doing a 220kg bench press and I video taped it
@Quagga: ja toemaar wonder soms wat rook coaches voor ‘n game…Serdyn het julle opgeneuk op die grond tweede helfte. Lekker baljaar want daar was niemand om te counter nie. Hierdie gameplan waar flanke in the trenches staan laat ‘n ou wonder, wie nou eintlik die bal moet jag???? Sien heelparty gameplans deesdae is die flanke, die slotte en sommer nog van tyd tot tyd die stutte almal in die agterlyn…..ja swaer…
@Quagga: I had same concerns. Was told locks and flanks had to stay in their channels on the side as part of game plan. I also felt it kept boys from playing their natural game and took them out of the game.
@Groentrui: Nice thread op 236. Jy deel Snyman se pa se sentimente rondom wie moet wat doen. Die wedstrydplan het daai twee wildehonde van die Leeus geen guns bewys nie. Daai man het seker twee pakkies sigarette per wedtryd opgerook van die frustrasie….. Ek het die kompetisie vir die los bal tussen die Leeus en Bulle baie geniet. Skitterende spel.
@Roger: I have known Kennedy since u11 and to me he is best at wing or fulla where he has space but it will depend how Mr. Spillhaus chooses his combinations. I saw him at KES this year in a few matches and he was brilliant. I like him at fullback. Monnas have a very good fullback in Prinsloo (played AW this year) and Helpmekaar have the exhilarating David Cary who also loves the #15 jumper (CW left wing this year).
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: If I remember correctly from CW it was his non strapped knee that got injured. So it seems to the ‘healthy’ knee.
@Quagga: agreed on Prinsloo & Richardson. Richardson is wasted at hooker. Great player. Schwulst for CW 2017
@Hooit: I heard about Blignaut and he is doing very well with the athletics. Pity about Zobber, he had a lot of talent as a youngster.
@Quagga: AW team
Thian du Randt getting operated today (again)….eish, this guys’ knee is just not getting right.
@Grasshopper: I saw Schwulst on a number of occasions and remember him well from the previous season. Very promising player. Hard worker. The selectors select and we support. Not that it matters, but I think Prinsloo should have been at CW as hooker over the talented Dylan Richardson who in my own view is an exceptional player as a loosie (#8) but not as a hooker.
@Quagga: Prinsloo should be on 15. Van den berg(12) has sort of given up on rugby. Front row Asenathi, Damian and Keegan. No special props at Monnas. Blignaut stopped playing rugby. He now only focus on his shotput. Locks is also a concern. Vusi at centre is good. The others mentioned myst still proof that they can play at that level. Randall on wing currently losing experience. Hlalu but if a one man show. Think next year bulk from Monnas and Helpies again.
@Quagga: The Lions should be very strong next year. KES will have a very good team, as will Monnas and Helpies. Jeppe will be up there and even better in 2017. Throw in some very talented players from Bennies, Saints, St Johns, Parktown, Florida, Noordheuwel, Marais Viljoen etc and Lions rugby is looking very healthy
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Ek dink du Plessis van Bulle is beter op no6 as Snyman. Jammer hulle het nie die laaste dag se game uitgesaai nie…daai man was ongelooflik op die grond en het nie minder as 7 turnovers in 35min gemaak nie. Hy het ook ‘n goeie game teen die Leeus gehad. Snyman soos Pretorius speel nie genoeg bal toe nie, soos tereg opgemerk deur ‘n ander blogger staan die manne uit wyd, reg om met die bal te hardloop. Moet my nie verkeerd verstaan nie, ek dink beide Snyman en Pretorius is goeie spelers – verkies maar net ‘n ware fetcher en jy sal ver gaan om beter te kry as du Plessis in daai rol.
Hou van Khanya op 8 maar Mafu was net te stil na my sin. Probleem met keuse van loosies is dat daar te veel ouens is wat wyd staan om met die bal te hardloop. Wie doen die werk op die grond om die balle te secure vir al daai manne wat so graag sprint met bal onder die arm?
@Quagga: where do you factor Mpheku – at fullback or centre?
@Grasshopper: Will check the photos and program tonight to refresh my memory of the individual players you asked about. All AW team or CW?
@Hooit:
Soos ek verstaan sal die spelers wat SA spanne haal die Beeld kwarteind defnitief mis,die halfeind sal ook beinvloed word, maar spanne met SA spelers kan onderling ooreenkom met hul betrokke oppenent om die game van die Saterdag na die Dinsdag toe te skuif om die spelers te akkommodeer soos die afgelope jaar of twee die geval was… Moenie HTS Middelburg vergeet nie.. hul kan enige tyd n ander Noordvaal reus laat val
@Hooit: I think they may adopt the same strategy as in the GK with those big mobile #7’s at lock. Last year Ignis Meyer, PJ Jacobs and Chris Pietersen were all selected at lock. Hlalu was at #7 and has moved to the backline since then. I see Gordon as the most likely #8 – and I realise my views may be controversial so it will be a nice debate next year. Don’t see the front row as sorted for next year. Will see what comes up but strong contenders will be Asenathi, Glade, Ignis Meyer and Nkosi Masuku already. I don’t know the Monnas props well enough so let me know who to look out for. As far as the ones mentioned Meyer from Helpies was superb in the trials but injured, Glade (KES) and Asenathi (Saints) were in the CW already as well as SARU U16 green squad and Masuku (Parktown) played GK and AW already. In terms of the hookers there are a few like Darnell Osuagwu (Parktown) AW and Morne Brandon (Monnas) GK, Ruan Vosloo (Noordheuwel) GK (SARU green sq), Bandile (KES), AJ Meyer (Marais Viljoen) or Nicolas Brimecombe (Saints) all looking to upset Dameon Venter’s (Helpies) (GK and AW) aspirations next year. In the centres I think there is talent in abundance. Muzi Manyike (Jeppe) should be there (GK this year), Hlalu (KES) will be in the mix, Randall (Helpies), Van Tonder (Helpies), Zandre vd Berg and Dandre Prinsloo (Monnas) all jump to mind immediately.
@Quagga: If the Sharks No8 was Jonothan O’Neill then he is grade 11. What did you think of the Sharks big fullback and tall centre with curly hair, both grade 11? Prinsloo must have played ahead of Schwulst in the game you watched. Schwulst is in grade 11 too.
@Quagga: Front row for next year should be sorted. Looseforwards is going to a good headache for Lions. 6-Snyman. 7-Van Niekerk/Van den Berg. 8-Jacobs/Gordon. This excludes current u/16. Problem for Lions next year could be on 12 and 13.
@Quagga: Great write up, breath of fresh air! :-)
So n verstelling of twee gemaak
1McBeth/Eloff(if not injured)/Bezuidenhout
2PJ Botha/Erasmus
3Posthumus/Neethling
4Steenkamp/Havenga/van Tonder(if not injured)
5Moerat/Vermaak
6Snyman/Pretorius
7Uys/Krause
8Ncusane/Mafu
9Combrink/Kruger
10Willemse/Green
11Adonis/Huffke
12van der Schuyff/Simelane
13Ras/van Heyningin
14Mvovana/du Plessis
15Lombaard/van Reenen
This comment more relevant on the Noordvaal schools. SA teams playing 3 games in August. Beeld quarter, semi and finals also all in August. EG, Garsies, Nelspruit and Monnas could all have players in SA teams. Could be a real deciding factor not considered yet. Team like Nelspruit and EG could benefit.
My only observations for the amazingly entertaining CW and AW I care to share here:
I was surprised that the ref in the CW final did not check with the TMO when Jacobs held up Moerat at the start of the game, even after the player (captain) asked him a few times to please check.
There were quite a few players at the AW that should have been at the CW, but that is no surprise. The AW players that impressed me were WP #6 and #8 and my son (Lions #2) enjoyed a great contest with Sharks #2 Prinsloo (he rates him as one of the better hookers he has played against these past 2 years). The Sharks #8 was also very good. WP #15 was also very talented, as were the Lions #12 and #13.
The Lions game plan did not do their loosies like #6 Snyman and #7 Scholtz any favors by posting them out wide and not at the coal face, but the WP flankers were superb in that final match.
Lions #8 PJ Jacobs (Pot) is only in grade 11 and hard as nails. He really made an impression on me both at the GK and now at the CW. He will be one for the future. Exceptionally effective in defense.
Van Niekerk (CW) and Van den Berg (AW) of the Lions are excellent players and will be pillars of strength next year if they make CW selection
The Lions have two great props for next year in Glade (KES) and Asenathi Nhalbakanye (Saints) that will be in matric next year. Glade actually manned up against Cabous Eloff and that was noteworthy.
The Lions had 19 players in the CW and AW that are only in grade 11 this year, many of those who attended the GK and AW last year so the future for them should be 8)
I got the impression the Sharks team selections as to who is at CW and who is at AW and who plays where were perhaps in some cases interesting.
The Lions only had a lineout success rate of 33% in the final. Credit to WP for stealing quite a few balls, but you cannot win a final with stats like that.
I think all the talk of the ‘Frenchies’ was blown out of proportion.
It was stunning to see the crowd walk across in droves when the AW WP vs GL started heating up. People were rubber-necking from far to catch a glimpse of the action. The Lions almost won it in the end.
To me the two Jeppe boys #10 and #13 were spectacular in the CW, as were the back three and fly of WP, the Lions #15 Van Rooyen, the Pumas #6 and Valke #10 and the Cheetahs #15. The WP #7 had a great week. Simelane was the most exciting player of the tournament for me.
Do not underestimate the Sharks next year. Players like Van der Mescht and Richardson will come into their own again at their own age group level although I think the latter is a great loosie not a #2. JJ gave the Lions major headaches with ball in hand in the GK final last year.
It’s time for someone to break the WP stranglehold on the youth weeks. All respect to them they were classy as can be
Kearsney College was great, the event was awesome and the good people of Durban were very supportive.
@BOG: Jy klink nou soos n tienerjarige dogtertjie…geen blaam is toegedeel nie, maar vir elke aksie is daar n reaksie…en moenie verwag dat ek gaan terugsit en niks doen as jy links en regs beledigings uitdeel nie. Ek het oor en oor bewys van hoe subtiel jy mense beledig en dan baie graag onskuldig wil voorkom…Die storie is al afgesaag en ek is seker niemand wil meer daarvan lees nie. So beweeg nou maar aan…
@Quagga: Met him once in London, he is massive! Makes our rugby players look anorexic! Even Paul Willemse looks small next to him…
@Grasshopper: Wow that Hafthor (Half-Thor) is impressive. Giant of a man.
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: yep and the brothers….
@Grasshopper: Former Maritzburg pupil. I know this for a fact.
@MikeSt: Hafthor ‘the mountain’ Bjornsson benching 235kg for 2 reps and he weighs 180kg! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8_vc0uA6mbc
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: well that is maybe why kids should be contracted and tested by SARU and then in Jan after matric we do a USA draft type system to ensure talent is spread across the unions and not just too the Bulls!
@MikeSt: boet, I did bodybuilding for 5 years from 18 to 23 and trust me benching 150kg for 10 reps is pretty hard. I weighed 95kg back then & 8% body fat. A comfortable bench of 10 reps was about 130kg. Friends on roids could do around 160kg. These kids must be superhuman then. I think David Pocock can do 170kg for 3 reps, but that is more like powerlifting. I reckon the strongest Bok prop might be able to do 180kg for 1 rep. Squats maybe 200kg and leg press 500kg, done properly not this kak Crossfit rubbish. Supplements for sure, Creatine & Glutamine is a must! It’s the taking of cough medication before a game and Deca are issues. I can see a few Boks who have taken dodgy stuff, one fullback/centre from the Bulls for sure….
@star:
…and vehmently deny the dodgy issues at your own school (or schools in your case).
@Grasshopper: I fully agree with you…unless you dont intend staying in the union where you have schooled, what do you do then?
@Grasshopper: @Carl de Kock aka Calamari: The biggest problem is the guys Drug free sport in itself. They are not prepared to assist any youngster on which supplements they can use and which not. The simple answer they give to people is that you dont need tl take any supplements.
This is a bullshit story as any sportsmen needs to get supplemented in a manner even if its only vitamins A, B C or whatever.
The majority of the unions after school do actually test their guys and then a hell of a lot of testing is done at CW. The system is however flawed as is happens continuously at CW that the same guy gets tested 2 and in sometimes 3 times due to the nr system that they use.
Apparently the reason is that they cant do selective testing by indicating an individual.
Then on the strength of the guys I dint think we realize on how strong the youngsters are nowadays as they start building strength from a lot earlier age than what we used to
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: yeah, but boys earmarked for provincial contracts maybe should be tested by the union and the test paid for by the union. Maybe a sponsorship from Cipla, GSK or another large pharmaceutical company could help them get ‘doing good’ PR exposure. But it needs to be checked. Boys bench pressing 150kg plus is not natural…
@Grasshopper: Cost issue with the testing…
@star: Agreed as long as other schools have their own house in order too. To build trust among schools there needs to be more openess and transparency regarding bursaries and new arrivals. The age issue we know all about and drugs is usually a non sport related issue, boys trying to look good for chicks BUT random off season testing by a neutral doctor at each school would be good.
@Grasshopper: That is what happens if you have the wrong coach. No vision and i really mean this with the utmost respect for Dawie Theron.
@Greenman: Agreed, many of those the stars won’t get picked. I mean how they can leave Jordan Chait, Morne Joubert, Keyter, James Venter and Jaco Coetzee out of the Junior Boks side only god knows. Those 5 alone would have made a huge difference. James Venter is on fire for the Lions Under19’s.
I too and looking forward to the next 3 games. I doubt we can beat Affies away but College away and Grey at home will be tight affairs. Wish I could watch them but heading back to the UK on the 3rd of August.
Not wasting my time in even trying to put a team together. Under SA 19 cricket and rugby has shown us that there is may factors that come into play. Feel sorry for those that should make and not there.
Looking forward the Affies game vs GW. Looking forward to their match up with Maritzburg who is on the up. Will be watching Affies, going down to Maritzburg for that game and then my alma mater Grey playing Glenwood. Most exciting three weeks on our rugby calendar.
Sjoe die manne is weer katterig met mekaar vanoggend….
@Speartackle: What is this” roots” business?And there I have been mistakenly thinking I am the original Durbs boykie.
@ Grassy/GB- The school just needs a strong Board and the new one has some quality about it. No need to be too pessimistic. Probably the best thing is to ” sweep clean” as the Dodge says.
The other schools do not dislike it when ” rugby is taken seriously and run professionally”. You yourself have mentioned poaching , over age issues and numerous other” gates.” That is what we dislike and believe it or not even when it happens at other schools.
@Speartackle: Ja, moenie drank blameer nie. Ons het darem te doen met n model seun, en as dit nie vir my slegtigheid was nie, dan was sy gedrag onberispelik. Ons lewe in n “no fault society”. Blameer jou ouers, jou sibbe, die regering, die kerk, jou vrou, ou meisies, MAAR net nie vir self nie. Mense wie Ierse Whiskey drink, sal ou tannies se kierries onder hulle uitskop, en dink dit is snaaks ook.
What happened to Cabous Eloff?
@Roger: Well hopefully and a time to heal old wounds with old rivalries like Hilton. Maybe even a KES fixture, who knows. But I fear whilst Glenwood’s rugby is taken seriously and run professionally the other schools will always dislike us…
@Speartackle: Nee…moenie drank blameer nie…Die lelik in ander bring die lelik in my uit!..
@GreenBlooded: a fish rots from the head ….yada yada yada – new broom sweeps clean ….. yada yada yada….
maybe this genuinely is a fresh start for the Green Machine
@Speartackle: Dis ook OK..Ek verkies deesdae Whiskey…soos in Ierse Whiskey.
@BoishaaiPa: Halwe span gaan jy net kwalifiseer vir n half jack Red Heart
@Speartackle: Spiesie…Ek het nie kans gehad om al die wedstryde te kyk nie, so daar mag dalk n paar gaps in my opvoeding wees tov sekere spelers.
But here goes…I am not going to select a whole team, but name some players who I think ought to be in the SA Schools squad.
Lombaard
Huffke
Ras
Simelane
Van Heyningen
Du Plessis
Willemse
Green
Pretorius
Uys
Moerat
Neethling
Eloff
@Speartackle: Enough to buy a bottle of Glenmorangie, that you can’t mix with your coffee.
@Bush: Lekker Bushy……sitting on my balcony staring out onto the big blue with black coffee with a dash of Pushkin…..best a man can get.
How much in the pot?
@h2o: Ek het daai dreigemente gemis…ek dog jy en Hops is hand om die blaas tjomme
@BOG: Red Heart will have you chasing spooks as well.
@BOG: Ja drank bring die lelik uit mens uit…….wat het BHP jou daai aand genoem nou weer?
@Bush: Just dont drink Red Heart and mention it here. There is a fellow in the Cape who will fly to Durban for that. Ask Spear. And as you might know by now, RH makes your ears grow and his, are hanging on the ground already. After a bottle down his throat, he also develops an urge to race rhinos, so if he does come to Durban for the occasion, make sure you have a rhino available.
@h2o: @Speartackle: @McCulleys Workshop: There’s players already contracted to SARU so they get in automatically. Doesn’t matter if there’s a better player. That player might get SA A….So if you had a poor year but contracted you play otherwise money wasted. Pitfalls of counting chickens. As with u20s in JWC.
@Speartackle: Lekker Spear, I’m back home in Umkomaas. Got a few skaap sterkjies which we must braai and a bottle of Captain to klaap.
@Speartackle: Dis in die verlede op n ander thread….
1 Cabous Ellof 17Mcbeth
2 Larkham 16 Botha
3Neethling 18Ntlabakanye
4 Havenga 19 Steenkamp
5 Moerat
6 JC Pretorius
7 Muller Uys
8Ncusane 20 Jacobs
9 Combrink 21 Kruger
10Green 22Willemse
11Muller Du Plessies
12Simelane
13 Ras
14 Cary
15 Lombard 23 Van Rooyen
@Bush: @Speartackle:
Too many pretender tow truck drivers on this blog. Gnome Sane?
@h2o: Waaroor het hy jou gedreig?
@h2o: Agree, stopping Athletics in KZN hurt us quite a bit. On that point, congrats to Akani Simbine on breaking the SA 100m record, 9.89!!
@Speartackle: spies nee ek is te bang om te blog na Hopper se drygement teenoor my… ek blog nou in afrikaans en hoop hy verstaan my nie btw my naam is Hennie Prinsloo en ek het niks teenoor Glenwood spelers nie het selfs een die naweek gehuisves…. ek se nogsteeds die feit day KZN nie atletiek doen nie is n groot nadeel ….. ek glo SA sal meerderheid WP BB en GL wees en niemand kan daaroor kla nie….ongelukkig nie een Shark verdien om in span te wees nie… dalk 1 of 2 in SA A
SA and SA A playing in August against England, Italy and Wales.
He has roots there
@Speartackle: He’s never been an onsetter.
@McCulleys Workshop: i could see the Carletonville in him
@Speartackle: that was a Massey Fergusson at Maxeys
@McCulleys Workshop: One Saturday I wanted to join the Westville okes at Maxies but I had bronchitis….but I saw pics of them with Star having a orange coloured drink in his hand
@Speartackle: I’m in. I’ll rope in Star, provided his trouble and strife doesn’t handbrake turn him.
Westers?
Come okes….when are we having a KZN party? Few years ago those fat and unfit Capies had one drinking Iron Brew.
Where are those Westville boys….H2O…Star….Rhino???
Gungets?
Come on now lets have a decent piss up
Didn’t watch much of the CW
1.
2.
3. Lions guy
4.JJ
5. Moetra
6. Lions
7. Richardson
8. Mafu
9. ??
10. Willemse
11. WP wing
12. ???
13. Simelane
14. ???
15. Lombard
Not good with the names as well. Lions number 10 also a great player. Maybe used as a replacement 10/15. From a KZN supporter POV I was hugely disappointed but we’ll see how it goes in 2017.
@Speartackle: Whahahahahaha
@Speartackle: Lol – I hope it’s an American Eagle, Gob likes those!
@Bush: Let me know if you need help….my Bantam can easily be converted into a tow truck….I already have a eagle on my bonnet
@Speartackle: Next time Spear. Taking my son back to his larney school. Massive accident here on the N3, lucky I’m in my tow truck. Making some cash on the way to school. Term is sorted. Wish I had a helicopter.
@GreenBlooded: Affies too overrated
@Grasshopper: YNLB…..You’ll never look back
@Speartackle: I like that plan, we appoint you Director of Recruitment…
@McCulleys Workshop: Send your sister then….you can stay
@GreenBlooded: Yep, it’s going to be tough times ahead, but the school has gone through them before. We building up to the 110 year celebration so I’m sure the powers that be will ensure they good a good person in charge. The vultures are certainly circling to feed on the carcass…..
@Speartackle: Not me, I didn’t do any Privates, but my sister was head mistress there so I carry their badger.
@Speartackle:
If you are looking for a good game this weekend, come to Maritzburg College for the Affies encounter.
@GreenBlooded: they should make me headmaster of GW……stuff recruiting in Boksburg…..will go to Georgia for forwards and the Islanders as backs.
Glenwood would demolish everything thrown at them
@McCulleys Workshop: you are also invited….I have never had a beer with private school okes although I see that Kuswag is also private now….maybe I should get involved there and take them to Wildeklawer in a few years
@Grasshopper:
I think that’s pretty much definite. Huge leadership vacuum at Glenwood with those 2 gone in short succession. If rumors are to be believed – a bunch of key staff are following so this whole thing could spell a death knoll for Glenwood as we know it.
Then all the haters on this blog can convene and have a multiple-session of ‘soggy biscuit’ in celebration of the demise of the evil empire and wax lyrical how KZN will win the next Craven Week now that Glenwood is out of the picture.
The only way to save this scenario is to pick a VERY STRONG headmaster and a good leadership team around him. Tough times ahead for the Green Machine I think.
@GreenBlooded: Yes Bloods
…I remember you were so hot for Nonnie……moved here 3 months ago….we must have that beer…I might just bring Nonnie along for you
@GreenBlooded: it’s Vrede’oti with its own Coyote Ugly bar…
@Babbelas: I agree with you, I would also play Semilane at 10. I know his kicking out of hand is not the best but non of the main contenders really excelled in that department. I like a 10 with a good kick but sometimes you have to look at what you got. Let’s be honest Henry Hannibal also didn’t have the greatest kicking game. Simelane looks like a good reader of the game and his option taking impressed me. I think he is wasted at 13.
@Speartackle:
Lords and Legends. That’s it. Maybe when I get back from the enormous smoke (Witbank) I’ll come and have a dop with you okes. I don’t know what you look like but I definitely know Spear from the Michaelhouse / Kearsney match a few years back. You’ve given me years of entertainment here on the blog so only fair I buy you a dop.
When did you move to Toti?
Bring a prize and win a prize
@Bush: Come Bushy….come have a cold chip and burnt burger here at the Spur
@Babbelas: Put your team together, lekker prizes to be won.
@Babbelas: Juis…..hy val om as hy skop…..sal daai tegniek moet aanleer……Lions moes dat 15 eerder kantlynskoppe neem
@Roger: I can’t see how Simelane can tackle the big Island centres from the front….he has good skills for nr 10 where the loose forwards can help with tackling
@Speartackle: Mag verkeerd wees maar het hy nie al die kantlyn skoppe gevat nie??
@Ploegskaar: bloody difficult trying to accommodate all the talent. Boys end up playing at of position, get overlooked – sometimes I think it must be easier in Aus, Scotland, Wales etc where the talent is spread so much thinner and across more sports – you identify early and keep them in the system.
@Babbelas: Simelane at 10 – can’t agree with that…
@odie15: Simelane not quick enough for the wing – why would you move a great centre to the wing anyway? It’s not as if we are drowning in brilliant number 13’s in SA right now?
@Babbelas: jou kennis van n 10 skok my…..Simelane kan gladnie uit die hand skop
@Ploegskaar: Ploegie how about 10. Green, 12. Willemse,13. Ras, 11.Du Plessis, 14. Simelane and 15. Lombard?
Ek post nie baie maar lees alles. Na ‘n paar posts weet mens wie praat strooi en wie maak sense. Van die laaste paar weke se posts kan mens sien wie is behep met hulle eie provinsies en skool. Objektiwiteit is so skaars soos hoendertande. So af en toe kom ‘n stem van rede uit die verlede soos MikeST, wat ‘n vars briesie is….
Hoe dit ook al sy, na CW het daar baie reputasies gesneuwel maar ek sal my weer hou van negatiewe kommentaar!
Feite/Voorstelle:
1. WP het nie kwota spelers nie
2. Die ander provinises het….
3. WP nr 13 is ‘n Bok in wording
4.. Simelane moet 10 speel, al die skills en brains
5. Onbeholpe refs wat tot 4 geelkaarte gee in ‘n game dobbel met die seuns se toekoms
6. Lions Loskop moet oor skuif na vas skop, te lank vir Loskop
7. JC Pretorius nr 6 Pumas moet net sewes speel in senior rugby
@Roger: Would pick Greene at 10, Willemse 15 and Lombard on the wing
@Roger: Green covers fullback too, so probably picked on the bench as a utility back. You can’t pick him ahead of Willemse…no ways…
@Roger: They both should make the squad.
@Roger: I have no idea…not heard a thing. All I know is the acting Headmaster Tony Pinheiro is probably heading to Dubai.
I see no-one is going for Green at flyhalf – is that because the incumbent is still there or because he is genuinely better? I though Green had a better week than Willemse. I guess it comes down to what kind of flyhalf the selectors want – Green takes the ball flatter and is more direct and Willemse play a bit further back. Stransky versus Hennie Le Roux / Henry Honiball
@Grasshopper: what’s the latest with Kershaw – any update?
@Bush: A Hopper team photo – of one!
1McBeth/Eloff(if not injured)/Bezuidenhout
2PJ Botha/Erasmus
3Posthumus/Neethling
4Steenkamp/Havenga/van Tonder(if not injured)
5Moerat/Vermaak
6Snyman/Serdyn
7Uys/Krause
8Ncusane/Mafu
9Combrink/Kruger
10Willemse/Green
11Adonis/Cary
12van der Schuyff/Simelane
13Ras/van Heyningin
14Mvovana/du Plessis
15Lombaard/van Reenen
@Stier: You get to win a GW Service Station Cap, with matching overall, steel toe safety boots and stand with Hopper for a selfie. But then that would only be of Hopper
@Bush: Ok here goes:
1) Eloff (BB)
2) PJ Botha (Lions)
3) Neethling (WP)
4) Pretorius (BB)
5) Moerat (WP)
6) Pretorius (Pumas)
7) Uys (WP)
8) Schoones (VS)
9) Carstens
10) Willemse (WP)
11) Mavovane (WP)
12) Simelane (Lions)
13) Ras (WP)
14) Adonis (BB)
15) Lombaard (WP)
@The Beast: Good mate, 38 isn’t too bad. You too scared to say who you are because you must know me to know my nicknames…
@Bush: “Compare our teams to the SA side to see who is the knowledgeable oke”. Then we first have to decide if the selectors of the SA team is knowledgeable and how they are going to move the boys to make up the qouta. No thanks that is a new 1000 post fight just to get consensus on that. Let’s settle on seeing who thinks like the selectors.
@The Beast: Yep that’s me china….
@Grasshopper: How the Banting Diet working on that huge gut of yours by the way?
@The Beast: Nope, Glenwood are their worst enemies. Trevor Kershaw was the problem from the beginning. He initially helped Glenwood improve their sport but then got involved with dodgy things. He is now gone and so will Pinheiro be shortly. Hopefully Glenwood can start again with a new Head and a clean slate. As for your trolling and anti-Glenwood posts, they frikkin boring as hell…
@Speartackle: Let’s meet up but maybe we can invite Big Al as well for that pot……you do know Big Al, don’t you?
@odie15: You are allowed to suck the marrow out of this completely.
Glenwood may not.
@The Beast: wait a minute GW beat Boishaai in 2013 at Wildeklawer…let’s not say they aren’t able to compete. Plus Boishaai didn’t win SANIX. Passion is what keeps it all going. Thing is we don’t get runs like this often. Wait we haven’t had this ever it’s new territory. Every Saturday is a place we never experienced before. Our team will lose it’s inevitable. I can surely suck the marrow out this bone until it’s over please?
@knowthegame: 0824427110
@Speartackle: ek sien jy bly nou in KZN?
Wil graag chat maar jou selno verloor met vorige gesteelde foon..goed gaan
@The Beast: I thought we were like brothers…….but you haven’t even come over for a quart since I moved here
@Speartackle: As for you…….wont even bother.
I thought we were best friends……
@The Beast: The Beast is also now past his sell by date so maybe you should get a new hero……change your name to …..The April…….he is the next best thing in Sharks history
@The Beast: No man ou Tendai….Hops turned me into a Green Machine supporter. They are setting the standards here in KXN…..can only be good for rugby here overall.
@Grasshopper: Glenwood would battle in the WP and get off your little horse now because we are actually sick and f@rking tired of Glenwood.
You have caused more people to dislike Glenwood and are easily the worst Public Relations exercise EVER.
College vs Glenwood 6 August at College….!! Should be a cracker!!
@GreenBlooded: Lords & Legends? I go every Thursday night. Chicken special……. Oke singing there and lots of old ballies in shorts go there. Ladies not too bad there. I think it is more a Bush type of place. Us sophisticated guys go to Ollies and Thirsty \Whale. But Wonder Lounge still the best
@Grasshopper: well it’s all over man! It’s banter….I live with the we are black we are white tune. It’s so Dynamite you know but it’s provincialsm! We live with your GW
@Grasshopper: Why do things like that get to you? Water off a ducks back. Every team goes through dips. Its like life. Didn’t Boishaai come second there a few years ago?????
@odie15: Prominent ex WP players poking fun at the Glenwood SANIX win, saying are we not ‘World Champions’? We all know SANIX is no World Champs, but still an achievement to win considering the team has to play about 5 games in 10 days, maybe less.
@GreenBlooded: For the SA Schools Side. CW was on TV.
@odie15: Eish I love the passion in the supporters, don’t get me wrong. It’s the arrogant drivel from many WP supporters on Twitter and Facebook in the past few days that have irritated me. Okes like Tony Stoops loves to poke fun at KZN and other provinces. Also WP supporters go on about how much harder their ‘league’ is. Take Glenwood as an example, only because I know a little about them. Playing Monnas, Affies & Grey Bloem every year is the equivalent of playing Boishaai, Paul Roos and Paarl Gim. Then they usually play Kearsney and Wildeklawer, in both likely to face another 2 or 3 Top 20 sides. So Glenwood’s fixture list is no easier than say SACS, Wynberg, Rondebosch and Bishops, bit those are the supporters that are bleating on about how KZN is rubbish. I would bet quite a bit that in most years Glenwood would beat ALL the Southern Suburb schools and most Northern Suburb schools. They would normally battle vs the big 3 and Boland Landbou. Although their last game vs BL they won quite easily. Oakdale and Outeniqua would be close games.
@Bush:
You okes must try the pub next door to Toti Club at the cricket field. Spear will get on well with the Tannies there. Good chow and very festive atmosphere.
Just don’t gooi donuts on the pitch.
@Bush:
Team for what? I told you – I haven’t seen a single SBR match this year.
@Grasshopper: I don’t know about unbeatable. I know we love our rugby. I know my beloved Province is being torn to pieces in last 20 years. I know our players are scattered amongst all the unions. I know our culture breeds good players. What the unions do with them after they come of age is the issue. I measure every year against Grey College. Their record is untouchable as a school. They are the only school in the Freestate mind you so imagine all the boys in the winelands in 1 school with 1 team representing. Well even a cherries well no it be a “druiwe” team. Unfortunately they don’t dominate as a OFS side for obvious reasons. But to call us arrogant bit closed minded. We enjoy enthusiasm and live for the next week’s challenge knowing it’s a big 1 every week!
@Greenman: So are you going to put a proper team together. Or are you wanting to carry on with the pissing competition?
@odie15: Not saying it doesn’t matter, you WP okes just love to go on about how strong your league is and how you unbeatable etc like rugby doesn’t exist anywhere else in SA, it gets boring. Yes WP have been strong in the past 3 years, well done. However, good players exist in all the provinces. Gary Gold, don’t get me started on him….complete waste of space. Hopefully that will be Gary Teichman’s first task, to get rid of him. Sharks senior rugby is in serious kak…..I mean the Valke manhandled the Sharks ix on Friday.
@Bush: Maybe should have commented to the Workshop first or are you selective. Vlieg jy man!
Afternoon Beet, tomorrow morning don’t you want to put our various selection onto a spreadsheet. Then when the side is selected we can see the real knowledgeable oke.
@Greenman: Now you are been stupid. Just trying to have a little competition. If you don’t want to play, what do the afrikaans okes say gaan vleig _______!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Grasshopper: So now you saying school rugby doesn’t matter! Yes the Stormers are poor. I agree totally….That will continue until management and senior coaches are replaced with professionals who have an idea. I don’t support any franchise financially anymore. No tickets bought in 4 years. I refuse to support The Allastair Coetsees and Thelo Wakefields of this world won’t allow change. And I am not talking politics here. These men who claim to have ruby’s best interest at heart really Don’t! They self enriching individuals who’s default settings are boring kick, chase and tackle rugby. There’s no vision at all. Gary Gold of the SHARKS well of everywhere moves around collecting money until he’s found wanting as he’s all talk. But you like dishing out….don’t see much taking though!
@Bush:
My team:
1) M King (Maritz C)
2) H Prinsloo (West)
3) S Dube (itz MarC)
4) R Dafel (DHS)
5)J Meyer (Kearsney)
6) L Crowshaw (Kearsney)
7) D Atemba (Maritz C)
8) C Glower (Maritz C)
9) N Nohamba(DHS)
10) D Gutu (Maritz C)
11) A Duma(Maritz C)
12) N Mjara (Maritz C)
13) L Menze (DHS)
14) T Nduza (DHS)
15) C Zondeki (DHS)
Somebody lend me R10. I am sure this is it. Maybe to many Maritz boys but they favourites currently. No other competition this year!
Can I get a high five fom Bush and The Workshop!
@Grasshopper: It actually fascinates me how the Stormers can mess up all these talented youngsters. Year in and year out they produce such great players and then at the end of the day a Welshman must score 4 tries to save them.
@McCulleys Workshop: Here is my Academy side;
1 Rocky Knox
2 Mike MacLeod
3 Aidan Schwartz
4 Nicholas Llewellen Palmer
5 Grant Haines
6 Christopher Dowsley
7 Sean Joubert
8 Ross Egberink
9 David Pachonick
10 Dante Gutu
11 Benjamin Strachan
12 Nicholas Herbert(C)
13 Luke Versfeld
14 Kyle Thompson
15 James Rowles
@odie15: blah blah blah fishpaste. Doesn’t matter what happens at this level the Stormers always end up kak. The Sharks aren’t any better. Might have to start supporting Saracens in the UK…
@Grasshopper: hmmmm yeah! Arrogance it’s a big word on a Monday. I am hoping I will be blessed with another year to bear witness to the revelations you are scribing. Next year on paper is a better age group according to my knowledge in the Cape. Added to that flavour is top 3 u16 teams in the country. As you said your Sharkies made final in Grant Khomo…..But there was some folly in WP the Monday according to ploegie who warned of pitfalls. I doubt that will rear it’s head next year. But you must buckle up cos Francke is coming!
Weet iemand wanneer die 2 Sa Skole spanne gaan speel. Sal nogal taai wees as daai klomp Paarl manne interskole moet mis vir SA games.
Cant get hold of Beet to pay back the money but here is my team
1) Nathan Macbeth
2) Hendrik Prinsloo
3) Carel Koch
4) JJ vd Mescht
5) Weideman
6) JC Pretoruis
7) Kyle Richardson
8 ) Luke Fortuin
9) Dubazane
10) Beytell
11 ) Hufke
12) vd Schyff
13) v Heyningen
14) S Tom
15) Chuiner v Rooyen
@Bush: If Eloff is injured, Macbeth comes in.
@Bush:
1) Eloff (Bulls)
2) PJ Botha (Lions)
3) Van Rooyen (Sharks)
4) Havenga (Lions)
5) Moerat (WP)
6) Snyman (Lions)
7) Uys (WP)
8) Jacobs (Lions)
9) Burger (WP)
10) Willemse (WP)
11) Mavovana (WP)
12) Ras (WP)
13) Simelane (Lions)
14) Adonis (Bulls)
15) Lombaard (WP)
@Speartackle: Ja and I have a few MOM Spur vouchers, so its going to be a lekker bachelor evening. Murray Cup draw this evening.
Spear dit gaan lekker wees. Gooi a few donuts on the field at Toti in your bantam. We will see if you can climb out your bantam while its still gooing the donut. I will record it for You Tube, as Hopper won’t believe us.
Beet, The CW is gone and WP won as was expected. Now start a new tread so that we can start talking about the rugby that’s coming up.
@BOG: “Hulle was sekerlik teleurstellend in Saterdag se wedstryd. Hulle versoek om n slot van die akademiespan op te rek, was geweier, terwyl n soortgelyke versoek van die WP toegestaan is” Verstaan toeskouer sommer van die pawiljoen af gevat om nr 8 van Lions AW te vervang na concussion. Wat is die reels?
Is Hlaudi (maak soos ek wil) hier ook in charge!
@Greenman: Where is your team, stop talking kuk, pay your money put your team together.
GREENBLOODED-Team ffs.
GREEN MAMBA-Team ffs.
Hopper, only one side. As I can see the bs excuses coming when you have one oke in the SA A and its the coach.
@BOG: Dankie BOG vir die terugvoering. Daardie blonde kop slot van OVS moet ek erken het self n baie goeie CW gehad!
@Bush: How much is in your pot already? It’s burger night at that Spur with the cold chips on beachfront. I’ll get a few quarts from the club and meet you there.
Afterwards we can throw some darts at Ollies
@McCulleys Workshop: Thats a very good side. You will win the pot.
@AbsolutMenlo: “making the best of the situation”, sounds pretty much like compromise to me, oka accepting the status quo.@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Hulle was sekerlik teleurstellend in Saterdag se wedstryd. Hulle versoek om n slot van die akademiespan op te rek, was geweier, terwyl n soortgelyke versoek van die WP toegestaan is.Om teen die BB te speel sonder jou beste slot en make-shift een is selfmoord. Maar ek glo dat GCB vanjaar nog steeds sal wys dat hulle n krag is en dat hulle net n bubble gehap het op Brugstraat. Kom ons kyk.
@BoishaaiPa: Kom kom ou dikkes……betaal jou R 10 en kies jou span
@Grasshopper: And it looks like Boland ran out of gas in the 22nd minute of the 1st half because that is when Province drew level with them again and never looked back. That Boland team was moerse unfit if you ask me!
@BoishaaiPa: I’ll put my glasses on next time…
@Greenman: Looking forward to playing House in the midlands in 2017, hopefully we can break this years record 56-5 win… The under16’s can’t expect to beat the 80-0 win though, that would really piss off old Bush and the Workshop dude..
@Valkie, @McCulleys Workshop: Hehehehe
Ja – sommige rooinekke kan ook Kalviniste wees, ne – hehehe
@McCulleys Workshop: Great team but we don’t appreciate players out of position. Although you included some second team players, I can help with more in position if you get stuck.
@BoishaaiPa: That’s too funny!
@Grasshopper: You must watch closer next time cause it seems you miss quite a lot when you are watching rugby…
@BrotherBear: There was a Calvin (I think Smith and not Ism) at Glenwood once, but Hilton borrowed him.
@BrotherBear: Lol – I did 15 Hail Marys and had a tequila!
@Grasshopper: Hopper, the game is 70 min long. We pace ourselves
@Bush:
1. Shuwltz (GW)
2. Voster (GW)
3. Van Rooyen (GW)
4. JJ (GW)
5. Bauer (GW)
6. Brummer (GW)
7. Weirderman (GW)
8. Mafu (GH)
9. Hunt (GW)
10. Holtshauzen (GW)
11. Lubbe (GW)
12. Le Fleur (GW)
13. Conradie (GW)
14. Maduna (GW)
15. Kruger (GW)
Can I wager R20 and maybe we should consider Trev keeping the war chest safe?
@odie15: The Sharks are certainly not the best, but they better than they did vs WP. It’s the arrogance of the WP supporters that piss us off. I watched the Boland vs WP game closely and too be honest was thinking what is so hot about this WP side. Boland just ran out of gas but they showed the WP side are not invincible. The Boland No8 was causing havoc. Experience was on the WP side which they may lack next year….time will tell…
@BrotherBear: Your 2nd paragraph is very ‘parental orientated’.
Not one of you are giving the Pumas any time of day and they won all three their CW games. I will not be surprised to see some names from the Pumas in the SA Squad.
@The Beast: @McCulleys Workshop: wo wo wo the SHARKS are the best!!!!! But not will be better prepared next yr when they grade 12……..Hehehe!
See a few bloggers just can’t help themselves from commenting in a rather PARENTAL tone that “THIS NONSENSE MUST STOP”. Calvinism still rules in some Pta suburbs (Garsies on the eastern side is it not). Maybe they should concentrate on applying a bit of discipline to their rugby players, then the BB’s will not lose at such great margins to the Lions. Hehehehehe
Should @Beet regulate or not? Well, I think the site’s self-regulation has been quite effective to date. Must say it does add a bit of spice to have a few strong opinions and K..k-praters. To those that disapprove – just keep an open mind guys – don’t be so overly sensitive. In show business they say that any media is good media. Generally speaking the boys that have received negative comments have had quite a lot of backing from many more supporters (not saying I condone the negative comments).
@BOG: Two choices…keep on moaning or make the best of the situation!
The nature of moaning is negative and that will be your reality …
@Bush: My team is those mentioned 1st, the 2nd players are the Academy team.
@BoishaaiPa: OVS geweldig teleurstellend op die CW vanjaar, weet nie wat daar aangegaan het nie…
Grey wat die ruggraat vorm van die span is tog baie sterk vanjaar?
BOG?
@BOG: Please enlighten me on all the key players that was not available to play for OVS. The team on the official site had 11 Grey players in the starting line-up. It looked pretty much the same team that run riot against Leopards bar a player or two.
@McCulleys Workshop: They genuinely think they are a private school…
@Grasshopper: When did Westville become a private school?
Stop this quota moaning.
In my opinion if the Border and EP sides were chosen on “real” merit this year there would have been far more black players.
Framesby are now the EP Quota team.
Hopper stop always trying to cover Glenwood’s arse because it becomes the topic of each thread, Glenwood this and Glenwood that……….get it in your head, nobody in KZN likes Glenwood so no matter what you say they are always gonna have a go…..you guys started it with playing Oupas in the First XV.
@McCulleys Workshop: Morning MCW, how you keeping? I sent Beet my banking details. There is no way I’m trusting a KC oke with cash. Spear and I having a jol tonight in my tow truck, just been serviced at GW Service station at Nicholson Road.
Put your team forward guys. Only one set of players(15 only no reserves). Die Ken and Hopper refine your team. Then Beet can put a thread up of all the bloggers team vs actual selection. Winner gets to wear the GW Service Station Cap for the remainder of the year.
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Im not questioning that, but soon, you will have to go and recruit in the Eastern Cape. That has been my point. WP, SWD, Boland, EP, Border are able to select on merit because rugby is the first choice of the quota component. Elsewhere, in most years, this is not the case. You even have 5th team school players in these teams. Why did you think FS had a blow-out on Saturday? Key players were unavailable. And while I am saddened that this had to happen to the team which I support, it did illustrate the farcical nature of team selections.
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Let them keep throwing the mud…we need more quotas on this blog, and then we can add the other 7 official languages to the list that annoys ou Grassy…and viola…we will now have “The Rainbow School Boy Rugby Blog”
Lets just keep the threads short and simple, no essays needed, had enough of that at school
Lets speak positively, lets stop blaming and throwing mud at each other etc etc.
@Grasshopper: Maybe we must take back this blog and chase all the outsiders away again and make this the good old KZN blog it used to be before those Capies and Krugersdorpers invaded us.
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: OK, let me remind you Beet is a Kearsney Old Boy, he started and runs this site. It was originally for KZN bloggers but over time included many more from around the country. We now have to wade through tons of Afrikaans, Zulu and Xhosa posts. I try get through some of them but there is so much colloquial Afrikaans and kakpraat that I give up. I think it’s only fair you need to wade through the KZN kak too. It’s pure sourgrapes from the private schools in KZN, if they were beating Glenwood nothing would be said. But now it buying, poaching, anything they can get their hands on to degrade and defile Glenwood. Glenwood certainly isn’t the best school let alone rugby school in SA, but OB’s are very proud of where we have come from. Only 20 years ago we were probably 6th best in KZN if we were lucky with the occasional great year, so for us to be even mentioned in the Top20 is amazing. The other KZN schools seem to be jealous of the achievements so pick holes in it. Envy is a horrible trait. Yes, Glenwood have made mistakes in the past buying in players, overaged players, drug problems etc….but many schools have done the same. But to be continually judged by wrongs of the past is wrong.
@McCulleys Workshop: I also dont think any of the Capies have been paid yet so we’ll struggle with their R10.
@Bush: Based on the above, don’t give Beet the float not the KC head, they may need it! I think someone responsible like Spear should manage the war chest.
@Bush:
My side with some obvious KZN bias…
1) MacBeth (Lions) & Eloff (Bulls – where is he though?)
2) Larkan (WP) & PJ Botha (Lions)
3) Van Rooyen (Sharks) & Neethling (WP)
4) Havenga (Lions) & Van der Mescht (Sharks)
5) Moerat (WP) & Vermaak (Lions)
6) Richardson (KZN) & Snyman (Lions)
7) Venter (Free State) & Uys (WP)
8) Sirgel (Border) & Jacobs (Lions)
9) Burger (WP) & ?
10) Willemse (WP) & Green (Lions)
11) Mavovana (WP) & ?
12) Marais (WP) & Holtzhausen (Sharks)
13) Simelane (Lions) & Ras (WP)
14) Adonis (Bulls) & Du Plessis (WP)
15) Lombaard (WP) & Van Reenan (Bulls)
I really think we should consider having a thread/topic just for the Durban Boys…you guys can agree to agree or agree to disagree on there, settle the differences etc etc….
What are the thoughts of the other bloggers on here?
@Bush: I put my team down on a previous thread about 4 days ago…
@Bush: Ivan Clarke would have a few words about that I’m sure…
@Bush: Lol
@Grasshopper: Only that few for such effort. Put your team forward, pay the R10.
Hopper you very good at going back to yester year. GW were doing then what they have perfected today. I could not give a MF how many times your school pumps MHS. Go Glenwood the greatest school ever. Put your team down pay your R10 and discuss rugby.
Green Mamba we own the Tow Trucks the okes from GW service them for us.
@Green Mamba: Well with Gary Teichmann set to become the new Sharks CEO the privates might get what they want, no Glenwood involvement in selection and coaching….
Bad taste all this Glenwood bashing coming mostly from the private school supporters. They sound more like a bunch of beer drinking tow truck drivers
@Bush: FYI, Glenwood’s last 4x SA Schools reps were all at Glenwood from grade 8, explain that for me please?
Marco Palvie
Kenny Van Niekerk
Morne Joubert
Jaco Coetzee
Glenwood bought in players like Marne Coetzee, Warren Potgieter and a few others about 4 years ago now. That has stopped so let it go. Some players arrive in grade 10/11 because they have approached Glenwood because they want to go there.
@Bush: Ya and House only give out 10 bursaries, those are the public ones. The rugby and sports stars are all funded by wealthy old boys. Hilton and House have the the wealthiest OB’s but battle to stay afloat according to the House bloggers, gosh I feel for them. House, Hilton and Kearsney have the first pick when it comes to provincial reps. What kid or his family would say no to any of those schools bursaries. You okes are just gatvol of catching a snotklap every year from the poor trash from Scumbilo. It’s nice hey when the shoe is on the other foot. We used to catch those klaps for a decade when House bought entire teams in post matric….
@BOG: WP craven week were purely picked on merit.
@Bush: When are we having that quart?
I’ll also donate a prize for your pot……A night at Wonder Lounge with Spear
@Stier: Yes, that’s correct. Even a team made up of just whites and Indians for that matter
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Obviously, many of the deserving white players were overlooked.And although so called “coloured” players are included in the quotas, the vertically challenged minister of sport, has already made noises about “authentic Africans” in teams. Border/Eastern Cape, will soon have the highest paid players, not because they are necessarily the best, but because they meet the ethnic prescriptions. How and who will do the classification, is still unclear, and I wonder if this function will be privatised and contracted out (to connections of course)
@Die Ken: Baie goeie span.
@GreenBlooded: Ja almost as good as the one that GW don’t poach and buy in players. They coach what they have from Grade 8.
My ou spannetjie/groep na die week se games:
1. Eloff/Mcbeth
2. Botha/Larkan
3. Maritz/Posthumus
4. Moerat
5. Vermaak
6. Du Plessis/Pretorius
7. Uys
8. Horne/Schonees
9. Carstens/Gorra
10. Willemse
11. Du Plessis/Adonis
12. Holzhausen
13. Ras/Simelane
14. Van Heynigen/Mavovane
15. Lombard/VAN Rensburg
R10 rand wager. Put the names forward that you think should make the SA School side(Only the starting 15). The blogger with the most players wins. You get the R10 pot and a free ride in Spears bantam.
1-BB(Cabous Eloff)
2-BB(Schalk Erasmus)
3-WP(Johan Neethling)
4-WP(Ben-Jason Dixon)
5-WP-Captain(Salmaan Moerat)
6-Pumas(Johannes Christoffel Pretorius)
7-WP(Muller Uys)
8-SWD(Lance Lamprecht)
9-Pumas(Jaco Joubert)
10-WP9(Damian Willemse)
11-FS(Gomolemo Matho)
12-WP(Manuel Ras)
13-Lions(Wandile Simelane)
14-WP9(Mike Mavovana)
15-WP(Gianni Lombard)
Here’s my team. I will send Beet my banking details. All money to be paid in first before submission.
Spear check you at the Toti Club for a quart.
Just to make things clear. I don’t say Allister must do it but if he feels he needs to?
Thanks playa that makes a big difference. So you say Allister can select a bok team with only white and coloured players and it will be acceptable for governemnt quotas?
@Stier: Lombaard en ‘Moon’ sal ook tel. So ook Manny ‘the Pacman’ Ras.
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Weet jy of kwotas Lombard en Moerat insluit of is dit net vir manne soos monster Kanya?
Ek het op ‘n ander website gesien dat hulle dink Francke gaan die SA span maak. Ek voel vir die o/16 hulle was teen die grond na daai Boland verloor.
@Stier: Yes you are wrong, it does.
@Stier: Ja, manne het goed gedoen. Altyd baie druk op die seuns om te presteer as jy so baie van een skool in die span het, maar die manne het hulle uitstekend van hulle taak gekwyt!
Francke Horn in die B-span se naam moet genoem word – hou die man beslis dop, skryf ook maar sy naam in potlood solank neer……….
Jammer kom ons praat maar Afrikaans hahaha… Ek het gesien die Bois High ouers het mooi flag geswaai daar in Durban.
@Stier: If it is difficult to call, surely we have come a long way…….
Yes it will be difficult to call. But if you have to pick a “black” team what do you think will happen? Remember our quotas does not include “coloured” people only “black” people. Or am I wrong?
@Stier: Ek verneem ook so. Ongelooflik
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Ek weet ook van baie. Laerskool Lochnerhof het ‘n yster o/13 rugby span die jaar. Hulle het Marlow gewen sonder twee van hulle WP sterre, hulle het Klein Bois 19-7 gevat en glo my dit kom meer gewees het. Baie van hulle het by die laaste proewe uit geval en een het sy enkel gebreek by die eerste WP oefening. Ses van hulle eerste span gaan Bois High toe. Twee het man of the match by twee van die o/13 CW games gekry en een het by die o/13 b in Sasol gespeel. Die scrummie het sy enkel by die WP oefening gebreek en ek dink hy gaan ook Bois High toe. Dan was baie van die WP span van Klein Bois en so ver ek weet gaan hulle almal Bois toe. Klein Bois en Lochnerhof het seker van die sterkste Laerskool eerste spanne in ons land hierdie jaar. Hulle gaan saam volgende jaar ‘n yster span maak.
@Stier: Very interesting observation, but i have to admit if we were to put a all white team against a non-white team from this years’ Craven Week……my money will be on the non-white team…
@4×4: Talking about the French, 7 of the French teams starting lineup at the European Soccer final was non white.
Qoutas is the best way to protect lazy incompetence. I wonder how many players of colour these French rugby scouts have singned ? I would love to know. Looking at senior players, not to many black SA players seem to get contracted by the French, I wonder why, are the French rasict or maybe they just want the best players?
@Stier: Ek verneem baie van die manne kom Boishaai toe
Beet jy het nie die o/13 Sasol week op nie. Die WP o/13 b het daar ook al drie hulle games gewen.
Van al die spanne het die o/13 WP span vir my die meeste hart gewys. Dag een verloor hulle hulle 12 (gebreekte neuse) , dag twee verloor hulle hulle 13 ( gebreekte toon) en 10 (hand) en dag drie hulle 15. In die finaal speel hulle sonder hulle eerste keuse 10, 12, 13 en 15. Hulle reserwe scrummie het gaan 10 speel.
@Grasshopper:
Interesting conspiracy theory!!
Almost as good as the one that Glenwood have complete dominance in the CW selection, and selectors and management from other schools are just puppets with their strings pulled from Nicholson Road.
@McCulleys Workshop:
I didn’t see. Been stuck up at Kusile Power Station all week and weekend. In fact, haven’t been involved in reffing this entire season due to overseas work committments. Haven’t watched a single schoolboy match actually.
So no – comment, other than my standard one, the main points of which are:
1. Referees are not intentionally biased against any team – that is a perception of spectators with an interest in particular team and a need to explain their team’s non-performance.
2. Spectators don’t know the laws although they think they are the rugby law equivalent of Gerrie Nel and Barry Roux rolled into one.
3. Referees are subject to judgement and criticism that players are not. Look at the Craig Joubert incident in the World Cup – weeks and weeks of vitriol in the newspaper but not a word about the Scottish players who should have just thrown to No2, retained the ball and kicked into touch.
@GreenBlooded: jeez boet, the number of trolls on here has been obscene! Boerboel, Slam, Bonthuis….etc etc. I reckon it’s Beet just stirring the pot to make things interesting….
@GreenBlooded: GB there’s been a fair amount said about the CW reffing. Any thoughts from what you saw?
@GreenBlooded: Don’t forget Naartjie
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari:
Not sure you can change your login name so maybe ou Hopper created a new login.
It’s possible to have more than one login. Ou Speartackle / Andre T / Festus / Nonnie / Strafskop / Skepskop / KakSkop / LateTackle / HighTakle / KakTackle been doing it since the Rugby365 Blog days……..
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Is jy familie van Sakkie de Kock?
@Grasshopper: Why did you change your name back to your old one again?
@Carl de Kock aka Calamari: Ja, die getalle is in plek- 15 spelers per wedstryd.@boerboel: While you are as usual, incoherent, at least you are not trying to type Mongolian, as you did yesterday.
@boerboel: Duidelik, het jy nog nie by die SPCA aangemeld vir ontvlooiing nie.
@Grasshopper: made the final by default. Probably the 5th 6th best team there. Will be early sat morning games for kzn at cravenweek the next couple of years
@BOG: verskonings verskonings. Afgesaag
@Speartackle: Jy het nie die transformasie doel witte in ag geneem nie….o nou sien ek dit is die Franse Scout Span. Ek het die volgende gelees in ‘n artikel wat maar net beaam dat kwotas politieke gedrewe doel witte is en nie Suid-Afrikaanse burgers gedrewe nie:
More than 70% of black South Africans do not believe that sport teams should be picked based on transformation goals, but rather purely on merit.
This is according to a 2016 national survey by the SA Institute of Race Relations, which asked South Africans for their opinion regarding merit-based selections of sports teams.
A total of 77% of all South Africans were in favour of teams picked based on merit, without any use of racial quotas. Of the black people who took part in the survey, 74.2% agreed.
For the rest of the population, 87% of coloureds, 94.9% of Asians, and 84.3% of whites were in favour of merit-based selection.
The survey involved 2 245 people from all nine provinces, of whom 1 757 were black.
@Speartackle:
@BOG: Ek stem absoluut 100% saam met jou
Bog, is die Peaches se ‘getalle’ in plek?
Hier is mense wie weer te veel lees uit VS se wedstryd gister. Dit is tog welbekend dat spanne/streke soos oa die VS, uiters kwesbaar is wanneer n paar sleutelspelers beseer word.Ek raai dat die Peaches beter teenstand sou gewees het as gister se VS span, en ek bedoel dit letterlik.
Wonderlik om te hoor hoe almal op tv sê dat ons rugby in goeie hande is, oorvloed van talent ens ens blah blah blah……hulle vergeet dat die helfte weggaan om oorsee te gaan speel!!?
Hoe klink hierdie 2021 Franse span?
15) Lombard
11) du Plessis
12) Ras
13) v Heyningen
14) Mavovane
10) Green
9) Carstens
8 ) PJ Jacobs
7) Uys
6) Serdyn
5) Moerat
4) Vermaak
3) vd Merwe
2) PJ Botha
1) Macbeth
@Woltrui: For me the under16 GK results are what counts now for the future. KZN made the final so hopefully they can keep up the good work and perform next year and 2018.
Ras 12 en van Heiningen op 13 sal chaos in die middeveld veroorsaak…
Thian du Randt alweer beseer?
Ag die ou seuntjies het lekker gespeel en hul gate uit geniet…..dit bly tog maar elke skoolseun se droom om CW te speel…….vir die meerderheid was dit die toppunt van hul sportloopbaan ….ander sal goeie CC spelers word…..min sal Super Rugby speel en dalk 1 sal die Bok of n Franse trui oor sy kop trek.
Time will tell
Geluk aan WP. Ongelooflike prestasie. Te veel skietgoed in die finaal gehad. Leeus by die breekpunte ore aangesit, en dit is hier waar die wedstryd gewen is.
Simelane se potensiaal is in konteks geplaas deur n puik Manny Pacman Ras.
Vrystaat uiters teleurstellend.
Some telling stats!
South western districts, Pumas and Limpopo BB impressive.
Surprised by Free state and the Sharks poor performance. If the Sharks u/13’s did not perform their stats would even been worse.