No smoke, no fire regarding canned Glenwood – Maritzburg College return game in 2015

Glenwood and Maritzburg College will only have one proper inter-schools rugby day in 2015. The return match which has been a fixture on the KZN school rugby calendar for ages has been scrapped. In the same 2015 season, Maritzburg College will break ground by playing Westville in proper home and away inter-schools fixtures for the very first time.

Maritzburg College has indicated that their decision regarding Glenwood was nothing more than a matter of logistics:

1. Affies and Pretoria Boys High only play three weeks of rugby in the third term which meant that Maritzburg College could not play either school in week four.

2. The Grey College fixture had already been set.

3. As Maritzburg College will have already played Glenwood earlier in the year, College were less tense about the return fixture having to be cancelled in 2015.

4. This decision was discussed with Glenwood long before the KZN fixtures AGM and both schools saw no way around it. Both schools mutually agreed to plan better in 2015 for 2016 and aim for the traditional double header.

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  1. No Smoke no fire – Not too sure about that

    If College weren’t playing Westville twice then there would be no reason for any Gwd supporters to raise the eyebrows – maybe College are tired of being pipped at the post by Gwd especially on Goldstones

    For whatever logistical reasons put forward there’s a feeling Gwd have been kicked in the butt – Greenblooded’s comment in a posting last week in a similar vein takes on some relevance..

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  2. @Greenwood: Time-tabling all fixtures for schools must be a logistical nightmare. Even if College dropped the return match against Westville, it would not necessarily meant they could pick the fixture up against Glenwood. I’m very happy about this. If College were protesting – they would say so. Once thing is for sure: after a few years of watching the College 1st XV, I can honestly say that Glenwood seem to bring the best out of them. They seem to lift themselves to a different level for Glenwood and this has seen some of the best SBR in living memory over the last few years. It would be a very very very very very sad day if these fixtures were compromised.

    Shame – Star and others are going to be devastated that it wasn’t a protest.

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  3. @Greenwood: “maybe College are tired of being pipped at the post by Gwd especially on Goldstones ”

    Seriously??

    Even in the middle of Marnegate Maritzburg College honoured the fixtures, when there were clear gounds for refusing to play. Bit of a cheap shot, don’t you think ….

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  4. Too much being read into this, Glenwood vs College has been a fixture since 1921, with many times only one game being played per year, the early 90’s as an example. The schools have played over 160 games against each other with College far ahead on wins. Logistics was the issue here, nothing else. Northwood on the other hand being dropped is more of a concern for me…

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  5. @Grasshopper: Logistics again with Northwood game. It is a midweek match on the NW schedule but I’m sure it will be changed because it means Glenwood has them just a couple of days before Wildeklawer

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  6. First I am ” bitter and twisted ” and now ” devastated” . I think I will need to up my meds. :mrgreen: I think that Westville are not an issue as we currently do not play 3rd term. The next question is whether this is a once off logistic problem which would seem to be indicated by the statement to plan better in 2015 for 2016. It seems to me however that the problems will still persist in that Affies and PBHS only play 3 weeks of rugby in the 3rd term. I presume Grey could be brought forward to the 2nd term which would open up a slot for GW later on. Either way if College did have an issue with GW I believe they would not indulge in a public spat but rather gradually find the acceptable path forward.

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  7. Yep – seems legit – I’d agree that if there was smoke – there would be far more rumours flying among people in the know.

    Sad to see the double header off this year – but there is probably far more out of province rugby for both schools than occurred in the past?

    Glad that a GW blogger posted the note about the 90’s too.

    Either way – we are going to be spoiled for choice w.r.t. SBR in KZN this season.

    Agree with Greenblooded about MC vs GW matches bringin out the best. As a fervant MC supporter – I still rate the GW win on the 150th as one of the best games I ever watched – and I did not feel robbed – as it was AWESOME!

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  8. @Rugger fan: The question is will the one fixture be played on Goldstones or Dixons? When College’s next win on Dixon’s comes it’s going to be epic!

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  9. @Grasshopper: Sources say it will be a Durban game, but all matches played at Kings Park – 1st Fifteen in the Tank … perhaps a curtain raiser for the Sharks game against the Bulls?

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  10. With all the recent games of these two schools being so close every year.2015 shall be no exception. The difference is College are the favourites and if the game is to be played at Goldstone without a doubt College will end if I may call it the drought against their Durban Rivals.

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  11. @burra: I suspect you misunderstood me. College will run out in 2015, just like every year, believing we can beat Glenwood. I don’t think there’s a College team that sets out to just be competitive.

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  12. @Grasshopper: My understanding is that 2015 – will be a Home game for College (Goldstones) and 2016 if it follows the pattern will be at Dixons. Similar to how College alternate with House and Hilton

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  13. @GreenBlooded: True – but has there been any statement regarding 2016 yet?

    also regarding Reunion Day – I see Ville are the selected opponents for 205 – this has also changed over the years but has always been a local KZN school. Ranging from HC; DHS; GW; MHS – but this is a first for Ville I believe? But stand to be corrected.

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  14. To be honest I’m not surprised by this, especially given the uproar that was caused by Hilton refusing to play Purchasewood.

    This is great for Westville and hopefully we can establish a long standing tradition with a great school like Maritzburg College.

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  15. @Anti Green: Thanks for that, many boys do stupid things they regret on the last day of school, it’s happened for years. Boys throwing dye into the pool, moving the headmasters car, vandalising parts of the school etc. It’s part of a teenagers rebellious nature. They will only realise in 10 to 20 years time what the school did for them, once they have matured a bit. Many boys hate the discipline but will thank their lucky stars they got it….

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  16. @Anti Green: Seems like you are rather bitter. Perhaps you should change your name to Hate Green. :mrgreen:

    My experience is that there are not many bad schools but the best school is the one that your own kid can achieve in and is happy with. I hope your son will be happy at MHS as that will make the money you are spending worthwhile. It is a great school.

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  17. @Westers: I hope the results went well for your boy. I also hope that you stay on the blog as your contributions have been well received especially the ones that ruffled a few green feathers. :lol: Here is to a great 2015 for all concerned.

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  18. @star: Yes, I hope you and Westers stay on the blog, we love our debates with our leafy suburb friends…..

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  19. @Westers: No bitterness that just makes you an ugly person. Total satisfaction that’s all. Hate is a terrible word could never do that-Anti is more passive. :-D

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  20. @Westers: “My experience is that there are not many bad schools but the best school is the one that your own kid can achieve in and is happy with.”

    Well said – I think in KZN especially – we are blessed with many many really fine schools. But what is best for your kid may not be so for mine. I too like anti-Green am moving my son this year from a smaller (and really great school in the making) to a bigger school to meet his needs. Looking forward to some higher level rugby this year – but he has had great opportunities at his previous school too (so we as a family are sad for what he leaves behind – but excited about the challenges ahead). All the best for your son at MHS anti-Green – I know many who loved it and a good few who feel like you do about GW! 8-O

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  21. @Grasshopper: No jab intended. From personal experience we have moved our boy to another school. We were just fortunate that we have left the previous school on really good terms – and my intent is that our perception of a school may not match our reality.

    But that said – it may still be excellent for someone else.

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