Premier Interschools will show 16 of SA’s top schools in 12 live matches over the 2014 season. We take a look of some of these schools that will be featured.
| # | DATE | HOME | AWAY | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 12/04/2014 | Paul Roos | 26 | 27 | Grey HS |
| 2 | 10/05/2014 | Paarl Gim | Paul Roos | ||
| 3 | 17/05/2014 | KES | Affies | ||
| 4 | 24/05/2014 | HJS Paarl BH | Grey College | ||
| 5 | 31/05/2014 | Monument | Glenwood | ||
| 6 | 07/06/2014 | Paul Roos | HJS Paarl BH | ||
| 7 | 26/07/2014 | Jeppe | KES | ||
| 8 | 02/08/2014 | Paarl Gim | HJS Paarl BH | ||
| 9 | 09/08/2014 | Affies | Pretoria BH | ||
| 10 | 16/08/2014 | Grey College | Maritzburg College | ||
| 11 | 23/08/2014 | Boland Landbou | Oakdale | ||
| 12 | 30/08/2014 | Bishops | Rondebosch |
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@jakes – I think they do broadcast the EG vs Kempton game…its on the boxing channel…LOL
@ Beet- finally some value
@Cappie: Ja I think you must thank old Grasshopper for that and yes we will definitely have a pool for it.
@Beet Ek sien superbru het hierdie kompetisie gelys. Gaan jy vir ons ‘n pool skep waarby ons kan aansluit?
@BoishaaiPa: If Tierklou wants other matches shown, then he should get off his backside and organize another show. I think what you guys have done is great. The business model makes sense too. The reality is you can never please everyone and some wise men have said that the surest way to fail is to try and please everyone. With or without tierklous support! there will be plenty of viewers.
@BoishaaiPa: there will always be members of the flat earth society hollering from the roof tops. Ignore them – great concept and happy to see some more rugger on TV
@Pinotage: Nee, sy kommentaar het niks te make met n gekrappery nie.Dit het maar meer te doen met nat bedrading. En dan wil hy nog boonop voorgee dat hy tot meer in staat is as milkshake en vroeg bed toe gaan. Die feit dat hy nog wakker was om 22:45, dui daarop dat dit seker die nagsuster se af aand was.
@Pinotage: Ja toe maar het na die Garsfontein-Florida game ‘n milkshake gaan afwurg by die Lollipop Road House. Wou vir die oumensies gaan wys waar ons in ons jong dae rond gehang het vir girls. Nie baie suksesvol nie. Dus ons oues van dae moes maar verlief neem met ‘n nare broodjie by Garsfontein, waterige milk shake en vroeg bed toe.
@Tierklou: So noem die skole wat jy sal wil sien. Tiere bo Michaelhouse? Sentraal Bloem bo Westville? Of dalk Augsburg bo Hugenote?
Wees maar realisties en geniet die Tiere se seisoen. Julle kan net beter doen met Beresford as breier.
Hoop julle het n goeie seisoen saam met die ander 2 ysters in die Noordelike Voorstede. Nagse.
@Tjoppa: Jy krap mos nou waar dit nie jeuk nie.
Wil jou darem se n bottel van Beyers Truter se voggies saam met sagte rump, bloukaas, olywe en Groenvye, het vanaand my shares by mammie dramaties laat styg! Nagse. Ek gaan moeilik deurslaap.
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@BoishaaiPa: Die skedule verklaar ook die skielike verandering van jou statistiese model laasjaar en die onverklaarbare rede vir Grey se hoe posisie. Dus die statistieke is aangepas om julle getroue kliente te beloon en weerspieel nie noodwendig die ware stand van sake nie. Nou verstaan ek ook baie meer.
@BoishaaiPa: Dis net lekker dat ons “klein” landbouskole ook daar is. Dankie vir daai een, ek het waardering vir dit.
@BoishaaiPa: …….en dit is my siening so jy hoef niks verder aan my te verduidelik nie.
@BoishaaiPa: Kalmeer. Teken ‘n sketsie vir die manne en onthou bowenal om by die Blou te hou (om julle skoollied aan te haal-baie mooi woorde-Hou by die blou is vir my persoonlik baie inspirerend. Hoe meer rugga ondersteurners die inspirerende woorde aan hulle harte knoop hoe beter)
@BoishaaiPa: Jy kan probeer verduidelik tot jy groen is en ek stel ook nie belang in watter template julle gebruik het om die besigheidmodel mee op te stel nie.
Die skedule kan nie goedgepraat word nie.
En moenie die geld en besigheidsredes voorhou nie, hierdie is nie die enigste skole wat kyker getalle lok nie.
Pok, is julle hardhorende doof? Ek sal dit nie sommer erken nie, maar BHP tree te sag op. Miskien moet hy sy vinger op “Shift” hou en skree. Hierdie is n uitsluitlike besigheidsmodel, vir besigheidsredes , nie n ontwikkelings- of n liefdadigheidsprojek nie. In die praktyk beteken dit dus: WAT WIL DIE MARK, IN DIE GEVAL TV KYKERS, HE? En die antwoord daarop, word deur die program gereflekteer, behalwe waar spanne hulle elders, kontraktueel verbind het.
@BoishaaiPa: Good job. Well you can now open a nice bottle of Pinotage, relax and enjoy the Cape scenery. That’s how I think of you guys down there
@Tierklou: Miskien moet ek ook vir jou laasjaar se kykergetalle laat kry…Na Super rugby het die PI wedstryde die meeste kykergetalle vir enige ander rugby op DSTV se sportkanale getrek… Dit kan redelik akuraat deur DSTV bepaal word. Die live streaming het ook groot byval in die buiteland gevind en duisende old boys se bedankinge en ondersteuning vertel n ander verhaal as wat jy dink!
@Amalekite: Yes I am affiliated with PI. I do some work for them in certain areas and have been involved in the concept since inception. I know what the motivation and drivers behind it is!..It was born from a passion of one old boy sitting in the USA and missing SBR!…That is why I will try and enlighten the unbelievers!
@Tierklou: Gelukkig tel jou opinie nie regtig nie en daar is duisende aanhangers by wie dit wel aanklank vind!….Brugstraat het net mooi niks hiermee uit te waai nie en die feit dat ek betrokke is by PI is bloot toevallig. Ek het niks met die finale skedule keuring uit te waai nie! Miskien moet jy gaan oplees waaroor Premier Interschools gaan…Die naam behoort al klaar vir jou iets te se!Miskien moet jy ook gaan oplees wat n besigheidsmodel is….Die fokus is op Interskole rugby..die besigheidsmodel is gebasseer op inkomste generasie dmv advertensie spasie!.
@BoishaaiPa: Well I’ve learnt quite a few new things about TV rights etc. – Interesting, I had no idea, thanks.
Do you work for PI or are you somehow affiliated, because you seem very passionate/heated about this subject?
@BoishaaiPa: Jy is reg, ek weet nie wat in Brug straat agter toe deure gekonkel was nie, maar buiten vir die mense van die Paarl (en nog hier en daar), vind hierdie TV skedule nie aanklank by veel toeskouers nie.
Enige wedstryd waarin bv Outeniqua hierdie jaar speel teen goeie teenstand, is moeite werd om uitgesaai te word. So ook Noord-Kaap, Garsfontein en die lys gaan aan. Nou hoekom 3 vir 1 skool gee en die ander kry niks?
Nee wat, geen besigheidsmodel wat SLEGS op rugby gefokus was, kan hierdie skedule regverdig nie.
I give up!…This is NOT A CLASSIC CLASH..that brand belongs to FNB….This is PI, with a whole different model and….ag fok…Just be glad there is more SBR on the little screen in your homes!..
Even in the Western Cape it is a little uneven. Wynberg and SACS have a long tradition of classic clashed but if my memory serves me right last year (maybe the year before that as well) was Bishops vs Rondebosch and it is going to be the same this year. Why not rotate this and give all the teams the opportunity to play in a televised game.
@Tierklou: As mens niks van die besigheidsmodel weet nie moet mens maar eerder stilbly!…Dit gaan nie oor kwalifikasie nie…dit gaan oor uitsaairegte en advertensie regte. Dit is nie n welsynsorganisasie wat almal wil tevrede stel nie! Dit gaan ook oor advertensie inkomste en n wedstryd tussen Gatomkeer en Verloorvlakte se 1ste spanne gaan nie werklik kykrag genereer nie.
Ek sê ook versprei die blootstelling tussen meer skole.
Om te sê dat ‘n skool ‘n verbintenis met FNB het net omdat hulle een maal per jaar ‘n paar rand vir die CC dag kry en daarom nie kwalifiseer vir PI nie, is twak.
Wat van die ander 15 wedstryde wat die skool speel? Dit het niks met FNB te doen nie.
Daar is geen sin om 3 wedstryde van 1 skool te wys nie.
@beet: I think I answered point 2 already. The WC schools do not have exclusive deals!…They just happen to be more accessible at the moment. No one is saying that any school should scupper their sponshorship deal in the hope that PI will come calling!…!The fact is that PI did come calling to many a school in 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013 and some schools preferred to stay with their current deal, which is their good right to do and in other cases a deal could not be reached… but then their supporters must be informed that is the case! If PI comes calling this year for the 2015 season, there will again be schools unwilling to put pen to paper and again their fans will wonder why they are left out!
@BoishaaiPa: Look just so you don’t think we are on opposite sides here, I am very grateful to PI for what they are doing. I’m excited by the prospect of watching all 12 games on the list.
This is what I’m getting at tho:
If all the other schools around SA back out of their existing deals whatever they may be, how many of them could PI then contract?
This number would depend on a couple of criteria:
1) The number of games PI are prepared to show in a season (are they willing to show more than 12 or more than 1 per weekend)
2) If PI are restricting themselves to just 12 games pa , are they willing to sacrifice the Western Cape schools games (currently occupying 12 of 24 slots) in order to show the likes of say Michaelhouse, Hilton, Kingswood, St Andrews etc), knowing that they would have access to more Grey College games based on the conditions specified.
And my conclusion is that a lot of schools may be better off staying exactly where they are in the deals they are in because the pie is way too big for just one entity provide all with benefits of revenue.
We should be grateful to PI but also be hopeful that another broadcaster comes on board and that FNB stay committed to SBR, with the hopes that they show games now and then as well.
@beet: They would not be able to show more than one game due to broadcasting constraints like availability of outside units etc. It is quite a big setup to manuever!…There is not a definative set limit of 12 games. We work within certain constraints as mentioned before in terms of budget and availability. If it comes down to choice and we can broadcast more derby games we would even limit appearance by WP schools to one game if needed! But is is also about quality and not quantity!
@beet: For instance, PI would love to show an old derby like Hilton vs MH…Previous years there was one obstacle that kept them from screening it, so they moved on…Same obstacle is now in the way of K-Day!..You figure it out!. The more diversity we can get the better. Unfortunatly it is not always possible and as simple as it seems and outside broadcasting units are not a dime a dozen!..You have to make do with what you can get!
@BoishaaiPa: That’s why I’m careful to point you that they are just assumptions.
If you had to answer would you say PI would show more than one game per Saturday if they had access to more classic derbies or that if PI are limiting themselves to just 12 games they would be prepared to sacrifice derby involving a Western Cape team to show one from another part of SA if there was a timetable clash?
@beet: As a journo you should know that making assumptions and especially wrong assumptions, could end up leaving you with egg on the face!…Premier Interschools is much more than just showing a SBR game on TV. If you can name me one tradional old schoolboy derby that is not already owned or sold it rights or where the Headmaster doesn’t sit with his head up his ass I would appreciate it!
@Roger: If PI are only prepared to do 1 game per weekend they only really have space for 2 more games in June.
Since there are many other top SBR games in the country that are not FNB CC games, which PI is also not showing, one might assume that PI only want to do the 12 games per annum. Based on that one could go a step further and say that schools who are with FNB should cherish that long term relationship because chances are that if they dump FNB they would lose revenue and would stand little chance of gaining a bigger slice via PI.
Also if say Grey Bloem leaves FNB, then that would probably add another 2 game onto the permanent schedule:
Grey Bloem vs Affies
Grey Bloem vs Paul Roos
to go with
HJS vs Grey Bloem
HJS vs Gimmies
HJS vs Paul Roos
Paul Roos vs Gimmies
So 6 spots booked leaving only 6 others up for grabs.
Reminder: all this above is based on assumption
@beet: They are mistaken!..It doesnt belong to them anymore.
@Roger: The home team ground owns the rights to their matches, but not all matches on the home ground always belongs to FNB. The Paarl Boys High vs Grey Bloem game in Bloem for instance doesnt belong to CC.
@BoishaaiPa: thanks – funny that PBHS – Affies is PI and PBHS – KES is CC – which school wont budge? Given that it is the return fixture at PBHS I’m assuming Boys High is sticking to CC?
Jeppe-Kes in July – if it rains in July on the highveld it will surely be a first!
@BoishaaiPa: Interesting that KES vs Jeppe also appears on the FNB Classic Clash schedule so maybe we can book that down as one FNB CC that will definitely be shown then
@BoishaaiPa: oh ok thanks for explaining it to me
@BOG: looking forward to watching them play
@phat55: Yes it makes a difference, because the home team “owns” the game. Some Bloem games are still under contract with CC, but they dont have rights to all Grey games per se. The Markotter game against Grey are not under contract with CC, so PI can televise it and aquired the rights to do so.
Pity we are seeing only 2 matches of GCB. I am told that they have the POTENTIAL to be the best GCB side ever. And before I am accused of counting chickens, I said POTENTIAL ! That needs to be converted into PRACTICE – on the pitch.
@maroon8: what the hell is your problem boet? who mentioned the u16s? am i not allowed to ask a Q?
@phat55: Asseblief tog…jy moet ‘n seun he wat laasjaar onder 16 was…..klim nou maar van daardie perd af…hierdie is ‘n nuwe jaar…..met Grey Bloem einde van die jaar…in die eerste plek……..vergeet laasjaar se onder 16 “wagon” dit was gewees en die vordering na die ouer ouderdomsgroep lewer verskillende resultate op……
@BoishaaiPa: honest Q…..so what are the implications? and also next years PRG vs Grey College game is here in Stellies,so does that make a difference as well?
@Roger: Yes, As I understand it is still a CC. PI dont have rights to televise it. At least the KES vs Jeppe one is shown and hopefully it wont rain out again like last year!
@BoishaaiPa: interesting – what happened to KES-PBHS? Is that still a classic clash?
@beet: You are wrong yes, KES vs Jeppe is on the PI schedule…
@phat55: Grey College games in Bloem is still owned by FNB.
@beet: Assumptions is the mother of all F……..! PI would love to televise more games and schools, but if schools keep their contracts with FNB Classic Clashes, there is nothing PI can do to televise such matches. This is a business model based on advertising and brand awareness and PI cannot televise games which they dont own any advertising rights on!..You sell your Interschools to Classic Clashes, you ask them to televise it! Schools who signed long ago and was prepared to take the risk to sign new contracts is reaping the benefits now!…
@Amalekite: BTW..HJS Paarl only have 3 games, same as last year, same as Paul Roos, Grey College as 2 as do Gim…The original 4 schools that signed with PI. Rather than pointing fingers to an initiative from Megapro and PI, why dont you ask the Headmasters of certain schools why they dont want their games televised and why they would prefer not to have a big day like K-Day televised!
maybe because of the big PRG vs Grey College game next year….surely that’ll be televised
Anyway the PI schedule is very W/Cape based but as I agreed with someone else this suits me fine as these are teams we in KZN generally do not get to see at all.
@Amalekite: Grey College apparently still have a deal with FNB Classic Clashes so even big season ender against Paul Roos which I assume will be televised is a classic clash as well as the other biggie Grey Bloem vs Affies.
But I think you are right about HJS having sway. I recall their game vs Paul Roos was meant to take place some time after the July holidays and then suddenly got moved to June. I’m now almost certain this was to take advantage of TV coverage and avoid a clash with another big match but I could be wrong.
@Roger: People should be grateful to FNB for their contribution as well. They give quite a few schools money for the Classic Clashes. Not many of them make it onto TV tho. However some do and if FNB really put their efforts behind it they could come up with an awesome list of TVed games incl KES vs Jeppe.
My only wish is that FNB would publish a similar list of games they plan to televise this year.
I wonder if these organizers ever heard of a school called EG Jansen.They will find them in the top 5 currently.
Their interschools against Kempton park, another top rugby school, is also a big game..While some schools gets 3 -4 appearances, others gets none..i guess if your school is not from the big unions they are not important. Just saying..
It would appear that HJS Paarl BH”s new sponsors, Vodacom, may have quite a bit of pull when it comes to their side being televised….(4 games). Or maybe it is just a Cape conspiracy? Paul Roos – 3 games, Paarl Gim – 2 games.
Arguably, the best rugby school for the past few decades, Grey College only get 1 game – Something wrong with this picture (excuse the pun) !
whats happended to televised Classic Clashes – has FNB pulled the plug?
@Playa: Agree with you fully, E-tv pulling a page out SABC Mabaleng year’s back when they used to show schoolboy rugby. Dstv how about we get premier school match ups from other regions, the teams listed here we probably going to see them again on the first day of Wildeklawer. WDstv and E-tv should introduce a highlights show though during the course of the school rugby calendar
As with most bloggers – I can’t wait – The wife gets miffed off when this time of the year arrives – she feels “neglected” – I told her you marry a Glenwood boy , SBR is like part of the extended family – she complains SBR Rugby is too noisy . When these games are on TV she catches up on episodes of “Isipingo” ha ha !! (Isipingo is a suburb of Dbn)
@Rugbyman: Lovely news!Some free to air schoolboy rugby.Maybe they can place focus on the ‘lesser focussed on’ schools’ games.
@Rugbyman: Yeah Rugbyman, I’m hearing lots of murmurings from different parts of the country about ETV coming into the school rugby picture. Great news
According to my information the Garsfontein vs Menlopark game will also be televised live this year, but by E-TV. They are now also getting involved in the broadcasting of schools rugby which is great!