With the coastal schools returning to school this week, the school cricket fixture list for this weekend looks to be jam-packed. Any updates or the compiling of news on which teams are doing what, be it scoring runs or taking wickets or both would be appreciated. Hopefully mother nature gives the boys a break and we have some dry Saturdays and other match days.
@star:
Just Bryan. All other players in Gr.11 or Matric. Good player though… Was surprised he didn’t make KZN last year
heh Bog – I see KES and Grey Bloem are locking horns today in cricket at KES. Grey Bloem batting, currently 56/2 after 17 overs.
@ Horsy- Good luck for the match today. I see Bryan took 3 wickets for you guys. Great guy. How many other U16s are in the first team? It seems Westville is the only school not to send their U16s up.
@GreenBlooded: Typo above – should read: photo finnish for 2nd/3rd between Kearsney and Glenwood
@GreenBlooded:
Really don’t know about the fixtures hey..Westville obviously regards swimming as their no.1 sport which is why they aren’t willing to cancel.also, if the stopped swimming against Glenwood it would mean that they wouldn’t have ANY Gala to swim in.
DHS Polo results vs Clifton:
1st Clifton 21 DHS 3
U15A Clfton 14 DHS 7
U14A Clifton 15 DHS 3
Clifton klapping DHS!! But its to be expected when they have holiday polo training while we started last week…
@ Greenblooded- In the last 2 days Westville has competed against GW twice. It seems it is head to fixtures that are still subject to an embargo. However swimming galas and cricket tournaments involve other schools and so I suppose it makes sense not to let the” tiff” effect the credibility of these events.
http://www.hssm.co.za/news/swimming/kwazulu-natal/2013/westville-reign-supreme-glenwood-gala
Yup – Westville way i front overall – photo finnish for 2nd/3rd between Kearsney and Westville with Northwood 4th by quite a way.
With Westville present – does this mean the embargo is off or does it just not apply to swimming?
@GreenBlooded:
Well done to Glenwood. Westville making the same mistake DHS made when they were the best Swimming school in SA.
They are now relying too much on their reputation. They are basically saying that if you want to succeed in swimming then go to WBHS without actually offering scholarships.
I think this year will be tough for Westville. Glenwood U14 are cleaning up and DHS U15 are sniffing blood…
Don’t think Westville will lead for long
@HORSEFLY NO.1: That is just the U14’s. I’m not sure but my guess is the WBHS won overall. The point is that Glenwood is building aquatics from the bottom up and this is the first year of that effort. Hopefully the lessons learned will cause the ‘bottom-up’ philosophy to filter into all codes. Very nice to see – looks like some confort zones may need to be re-assessed in the next few years. GO GREEN!!
Still not sure about the twins – have they been sighted at HC or GWD? Anyone know where Gareth Kemp ended up?
@rugbyfan: Ye they always seem to choke in the 50 over format
@Horsie, it must be Westville Under14’S 3rd….no way can they go from winning every race to coming third. They must have won the gala outright. Grey Bloem may sniff blood this year….
@GreenBlooded:
By WBHS 3rd do you mean WBHS U14 3rd or WBHS 3rd overall?
Rumour has it that there was a gala today at Glenwood and that at said gala the Glenwood U14’s kicked butt – namely those of Westville (3rd) and Kearsney (2nd). Nicely done lads!! Let this be the beginning of a great era of Glenwood aquatics. Not sure how the other age groups went but it is heartening to see the young-un’s carrying the flag. GO GREEN IN THE POOL!!!
@Gungets Tuft: Ye you might be right there
@rugbyfan: They just seem to cave in under the slightest pressure. 5 run-outs?!?!?! (OK, Miller was unfortunate .. but still). Never subscribed to the choker label, but perhaps it fits ..
Were the Protea,s not shocking last night seems to be some problem with SA and the 50 over game they have never quite aced it
@Ludz: How is Queens cricket this year
@Gungets Tuft: Chilli maybe, he’s done well, but Strauss has did very well last year, for me absolutely the best hooker in the world after Bissie’s injury
Tiaan is average at best, good hooker for SR and CC, likewise I think that might be Skarra’s ceilings as well
@Ludz: Tiaan, Skarra and Chilli might have something to say about that …
Well done to Glenwood Old Boy Cody Chetty for being selected for the SA Invitational IX: http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/old-boy-news-0
Hahahaha!Beastie stirring up sh!t as usual I see.
As Gawie has already put it, I think The Beast has a bit of a problem with the lack of objectivity
You can not seriously tell me Adriaan Strauss is not a better hooker than Kyle Cooper, the oke can’t throw to save his life where as Strauss was the best hooker in the Southern Hemisphere last year if not the world after Bismarck’s injury, as much as I love the way Burden and Cooper play, you can’t justify even suggesting that they are better hookers than Strauss
@The Beast: he’s probably ignoring you – jeez you are juvenile. Can you nopt debate real issues?
@The Beast: I don’t care. It was 21 years ago – the thing that doesn’t make sense is why it is important, jeez, I can’t even remember where I was 21 years ago.
Who are we talking about here: Hopper or Grasshopper? I am confused (as usual).
Hopper is very quiet, he must still be batting!!!!!
On a totally different tack….. sorry for the hi-jacking. If anyone is involved directly with any coaching staff at schools and is looking for U14 fixtures (for lower level teams) – there is a new high school in the Hillcrest (CURRO Hillcrest) area looking for a few U14 fixtures for the year – I can pass on the school sport’s masters name.
@Gungets Tuft: Does the story make sense to you?
@The Beast: Bwahahhaa .. this was an U13 match in 1992 – 21 years ago?!?!?
You oke will fight about absolutely anything. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
@Grasshopper: OK, so what time did the Glenwood innings begin, seeing you got in at 2pm and your side was already 80/8 after the opposition scored 222/8?
Lets remember scoring rates in the mid 90’s were hardly the pace of what they are today.
@Gawie, never said we had the better end of the draw on my personal cricket experience mentioned above. In the under15 game against Grey Bloem this year we did. in my game in 92 we were behind the 8 ball big time at 80/8 within an hr or so. Westville’s Ryan De Beer had ripped through us and I was told boy you stay in there and don’t lose your wicket. I batted so defensively I only scored about 5 runs per hour. Myself and Gary just blocked and blocked. It got so dark at one point Westville had to use spinners only and we had about 6 around the bat. I was definitely no great batsman but knew how to defend, which I did for my life. I had some far better personal achievements in my bowling over the years but that was my best batting performance ever. Really proud of it, so for Beast to come in and say it’s impossible when he was not there is below the belt….
I have no reason to doubt you @Grasshopper, however could you please explain how Glenwood had the better end of the draw with you have just described?
Re: Beast, his issue with you appears to relate to your lack of objectivity (vide: comments about Kyle Cooper and everything else Glenwood related). Nobody takes issue with the success of Glenwood. If you reined that in a bit I am sure he will back off. Just a thought ….
@Beast, no point in debating with you, you are blind to anything but your opinion……..which is anything anti-Glenwood or anti me.
Far fetched story unless it was a 2 day game, I might be full of nonsense but not dumb!!!!!
@TheBeast, your attacks are becoming personal now. If you want to meet to discuss in an adult manner then let’s do so. Yes, it was a 3hr stand boet, from 2pm in the afternoon until 5pm. Not sure if you know but school’s A teams used to play declaration games in the 90’s no limited overs with games starting at 9am, but you are probably too young to remember that. The game was Under13A in 1992, Glenwood vs Westville. Westville scored 222/8 with me taking 3 wickets. We then batted and were in trouble at 80/8 and myself and a guy called Gary Sadler batted for 3 hrs to get to 130/8 and bad light stopped play. It was a 9th wicket partnership so I was wrong there….
@Grasshopper: You are the funniest little man alive.
Swing the ball so much, 3 hr last wicket stand…..good heavens, anything you couldn’t do?? Love to know how you have a 3 hr last wicket stand in school cricket???? Tell me more…… you are the (edited), why dont you take your fat cheque book out ad buy all this land you talking about?
Move on hopper……
@beet:
Is the Astro going to be built in 2014 or finished then?
@Grasshopper: Seems like Glenwood has tried and continue to try buy the tennis club grounds but to no avail.
Just checked and there is a whole football pitch opposite Glenwood in Rhodes Avenue, they should buy that. Also there is quite a bit of land behind the tennis courts on Bulwer rd. What is stopping expansion of the High school is Open Air school and Glenwood Junior primary. If the High had that ground there would be plenty space. Of course they could never oust those schools unless they had other premises to go to……
@star: Apparently DHS passed up an option to buy Berea Park in the 1970s. Eina! They are negotiating now. Personally I can’t see it working out but all they really need is a section of that park, big enough to build a new cricket field which could convert to 2 rugby fields at a squeeze.
@ interested bloggers The DHS hockey astro plans look set for 2014. Will be sad to see those little top field posts go – real landmark. Always brings back memories.
I see the SA u18 sevens team, took gold in the youth olympics after playing Australia in the Final. Welldone to the boys
http://www.kingswoodcollege.com/index.php?pid=364
There is an indoor centre for you.
@star:
yes its an option, in fact talks are being held right now between the municipality and School. the fields will be used as rugby fields. DHS lucky in terms of tennis, a club is right across the street so no need to buy our own courts. Just hockey, riverside costs are too much now!
@ Horsy- When my oldman was at ” School” there was talk of buying Berea Park. Is that still an option? You need land. GW is only marginally better off. There is only so much mix and matching you can do.
@ Gungets- I see that Shepstone is the captain of the College U16A and had unbelievable figures of 4 wickets for 2 runs. Tyson had 3 for 15 runs and so it seems that the next tier is grabbing iropportunity with open arms.
@Gungets Tuft:
I don’t know officially, but I’ve seen him around the school a couple of times looking quite busy.
Stephen Saad had a lot to do with the money.
New astro to be built to it seems. Riverside transportation costs must be too much now!
What Medical Aid conditions?
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Medical Aid payout, but conditional from what I heard. When is your new man officially in the seat … gone very quiet??
@Grasshopper: Not sure how much it cost, sorry. Could find out.
Was checking Google Earth for College – I see that they have been doing some flying, the new pavillion is visible already. Apparently the atmosphere inside there is unbelievable, didn’t stay for the matches yesterday as duty called in Durbs. Will make some time next week to catch a match.
I see College have space for the 50m pool but reckon that should be last on the list. We have 2 olympic pools within 10 minutes so rather just use those – build onto the new pavillion for some indoor cricket lanes and an indoor hockey court – much better return on that. I remember early morning sessions at the Alexandra park pool, 1st October in PMB, not heated, had the brass monkeys weeping ….
Your campus too crowded – 50m pool there is going to take out 1/2 of the tennis court (it is a tennis court – yes) and ther is no space at all for a pavillion at all. What is the vacant land across the road – buy that.
Schools must make use of their rich old boys and get as much money as possible if they are to carry out their plans. I think we raised about 60million last year with one guy contributing ALOT of thaat. I’m sure you know who he is
@Grasshopper:
The pool is 50m mate look here: http://www.durbanhighschool.co.za/content/Facilities.asp
The school will do something to improve it though, just can’t find the book that has all the info!
DHS looking to get back to former glories with regard to swimming. It fits 6, maybe 7 lanes but at least its 50m which is great and has a polo adaptation.
I think DHS are also looking to take basketball indoors!
@Gungets, yep maybe 25 million was grapevine costs, probably a few million. 25 million could include indoor costs for a roof etc. How much was your basketball/sports centre?
We could take out the basketball courts and run the pool the other way……should have space then….
@Grasshopper: The Ships Captain recently spent R65 million on his house, he can afford it, but R25million sound like a hellova lot for that. Just make digging a rugby warm up – 1m per team per training session, you will have the hole in no time. Then you could try a “wax on, wax off” trick for the plastering – or get the shooting team for the gunnite guns ..
DHS best placed to go olympic, got some space to widen pool (google earth confirms it is 50m long!!), the basics there for the pavillion. From the edge of the soutern pavillion on the main field to the edge of the warmup pool is 132m, so you are pretty screwed for a full size rugby field including scoring zones.
And in the Google Earth photo it is clear that your point fielder is standing too square, he needs to take 10 steps to his left ..
@Horsie, the DHS pool is certainly not 50m, maybe 35 or 40 and it’s tiny lane wise….maybe 5 lanes?
@Gungets, true we need to milk him and other rich old boys big time. I heard 25 million! R25 million odd is a drop in the ocean for those types……but’s ensures their legacy.
Westville have been tapping their Old Boys for a while now, money might run out there unless they get the guys in the Mosque to start donations, then they will be sorted!
DHS does have a 50m pool already but there are plans for a proper aquatic centre. Money already there just have to staart construction now!
@Grasshopper: How much would it cost – just tap the old Ships Captain … chump change for him I reckon. Where to put it … another thing altogether. To be honest, not sure that an olympic is necessary – just use the Durban pool, save some money and space. All said though – having 50m space for training is nice – when I was at College the A team practice was a mission, had 3 people sharing lanes for the cardio stuff, but we got by. Having one for swimming and one for polo .. now that could work…
Bog – College didn’t start the cardio stuff for swimming .. just saying … bwahhahhaa .. (slid off the bottom of the bed today) ..
@Gungets, are you aware of Glenwood’s plan to build a similar aquatics centre but with full olympic size (50m) pool? Not sure where they going to put it! They introduced a sponsorship scheme to raise the funds. I think I’ll contribute as much as I can….
The Westville one looks great, but did have to take over quite a bit of space there and I think a few outside courts they used to have…
@Bog, apologies, misread your blog. I read it differently but then re-read it now, probably woke up on the wrong side of the bed
@Grasshopper: I did not accuse or suggest anything. I merely mentioned a tradition which is similar. If you are tensed up, take “time-out” or a calmette.
@Bog, I never said ringing the bell by grade or matrics was started by Glenwood, I was just chatting to another Glenwood blogger about when it was started there. I’m sure many schools started it before us as did many UK schools start traditions before Grey, College, Bishops etc. In fact, the war cry Jimolayo Ji was taking from College singing it and changed to a Glenwood version. Westville have done that too. Maybe College picked that up from an older school. Anyway, schools do copy traditions that is why it’s so great when they have war cry sing offs etc…..I by no means was saying that Glenwood started bell ringing, however we do have other traditions that Grey might not have and vice versa…
@star: Just seen pictures of your new acquatics centre … bloody hell, looks smart. All they need is a roof and I doubt it is matched in South Africa. Probably isn’t matched anyway. Just looking at it makes you want to swim a few lengths.
http://www.wbhs.co.za/?page_id=59
@star: Didn’t know they were playing – actually have no results at all, got the U16 result from your mate MW who was driving past. How did your other teams go – who were they playing?
I see we had quite a few against you guys yesterday, now that I look (since my lightie stopped cricket I have been a bit slack looking at all the fixtures). U14 G – I teams, U15 D, F, G. Were there results in any of them others. Might have been in the U15F, U15G, U14I because they were all morning games at College – the rain only really came down at about 1pm.
@Grasshopper:
At least Glenwood has a decent u15 team that will carry them through though…
Well yeah sometimes boys catch on earlier than expected even. one of the DHS U14 boys who’d never played polo before 2012 caught on quickly and made KZN U14 last year.
I’ve also found that teams with average keepers do struggle, its fine to have an OK player out-field but you are caught out if your goalie is inexperienced.
@NW_Knight:
Sorry, must have been some other school. there were 6 schools though… Also, how are the new Knights looking?
@star:
I know Hilton recruited well for polo . Westville needs to stop thinking that having good swimmers means having a good polo team! Lastly, well done for your Gala win at DHS , Westville pnly came second in 3 races and won the rest, still trying to find out which three they lost and who to.
@Grasshopper: Interesting that you should mention the tradition of ringing the bell on the last school day, which is/has developed at Glenwood. Grey has such a tradition. On the last day before you leave to cram, the matrics walk over the stage and greet the headmaster for the last time while a teacher plays Ol laing Syme (??) on the piano. With many a tear they then proceed under the original school bell outside the reunion hall (not to be missed on your next visit- this is where the original Springbok/Protea/SA jerseys are kept) Once they have passed under the bell, they are then officially Old Greys.( Thankfully, not too many return the following year as OGs and matrics)
@ Gungets- You forgot Westville U15E beating College U15D by 3 runs.
@ Greenies- Are you guys happy with the fact that the ” embargo” seems to going no where fast. Have you also not considered how the rugby fallout with Westville will effect other sports?Hockey for example is usually played on the same day as rugby. How is this now going to work from a logistics perspective. And where do you draw the line with what sports are played and which are not. If you are going to stick to your principles it should be all or nothing. It is a mess and the sooner management get together to reach consensus the better.
@ Horsy- I was thinking about the Van Zyl issue. Surely next year he will be U19 and therefore in terms of the new agreement he would have to sit out a year. If that is the case surely there has been a lot of short term thinking by a lot of selfish parties.
@ Westville,GW and MC- The privates handed us our butts in the water polo pools. Well done to those schools.
@Horsie: Northwood wasn’t at the gala.
@Greenblooded, actually I think it only started in about 95. I never did it coming in 2nd form in 92. It’s a great tradition and should be kept. In our matric year we bounced Maher’s car from it’s original spot to another…hahah
@Grasshopper: Any idea when the bell ringing ceremony began? I suspect it was the year after I left – I remember Maher speaking passionately in the final assembly about introducing some ceremony to the arrival and departure of boys from Glenwood. This was prompted by some boys who thought that dropping waterbombs from the top floor onto people below was an appropriate way to celebrate the fial day of school. They were promptly caned in full view – imagine leaving school on the last day of matric with a sore arse!! I would guess that the bell ringing started in 1989 or maybe a year later.
Glenwood 2nd formers (grade 8) camp, this is how to get ‘gees’ and comradrie going early on; http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/form-ii-boys-return-their-camp
@Henkies, agree totally on Horse. I played against him in 96 when we beat DHS at DHS when all odds were against us. We were far the inferior side but derby days bring something special from a team of average us. We just wanted it more. I also played against Horse in Under21, never forget the DHS Old Boys having to have two in horses shoe, so two cans from his match boot…..hahah. Him and Dion also were great for DHS in the water, not the fastest but very powerful. Overall a good allround bloke and I hope he does well wherever he goes. My old mate Rudi Urbach (Horses Glenwood rival on the field and in the pool) I here is reffing polo around Durban, are you aware of that?
@Horsie, yes my nephew in law played in the Under14A goal, never played polo in his life so to lose by 8 against boys who have played for a couple of years bodes well. By grade 10 with decent coaching they will be on a par. He is a big lad so just needs to get swimming fit and learn the skills….
@Henkies:
Lol. Horse will do well, excellent coach and will add to Westvilles arsenal.
Burt and Leroux will ensure that he isn’t missed too much though. Great coaches in their own right too!
@Grasshopper, Horsey
Ah Horse off to Westville then !! I have to take my hat off to Horse – the man who would still look scruffy even in a Hugo Boss suit. He’s served DHS so well as a pupil and a master. Horse played 1st team from 95 to 97. That DHS 95 team was awesome- lost to an unbeaten College side in the very last minutes of both games darn*it. Horse was a great Number 2 jumper despite being pretty short for a lock. Well done on your move Horse. I hope things go well for you at Westville but not too well.
I think the Kearsney 1st XI had 4 x u16 guys. KC seemed to be going ok at 110 or so for 2. James Tedder on 43 and Ryan Wallace on 44.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Prep boys making good at Kearsney, saw Josh Morse in the 2nds for Polo as well. Sam Swanepoel swam out for College 1sts today and looked completely at home.
The 2nd Formers look like a happy bunch, hellovu enthusiastic, getting really stuck into College life – making a big noise at the polo and basketball. Looks like College took most of the basketball in a reduced programme – they put what they could into the new indoor centre. Chatted to some of them, happy boys, at the end oif their first week.
@Grasshopper:
Hilton did win 3/4 polo A team polo fixtures though! Good stuff. Glenwood 15A developing well!
Yes that’s where he is mate, doensnt matter though because of the more than suitable replacements we have gotten
Glenwood vs Hilton results, seems no cricket :-( http://www.hssm.co.za/fixtures/kwazulu-natal/2013/01/19/hilton-vs-glenwood
Honours even in the pool and squash, but tennis was an easy win.
@Horsie, so that is where ‘Horse’ aka Andrew Stewart is now at WBH, wow! A passionate DHS Old Boy leaving, westville must be paying him well to lure him away…
@Gungets Tuft:
I believe Kearsney U16A also have a couple of players playing 1sts including Koekemoer and Dixon.
@Gungets Tuft:
Good stuff for College! Kearsney U15s were great last year as U14 so if College were on top then its great!
I trust that Pio and Hope are settling in well into the College programme??
U16A – Kearsney bowled out for about 60, College got the runs quickly before the rain came. U14’s well on top also bowling, same with U15s. Means little in the scheme of things because it will all be no result but it is a confidence booster for the College boys, especially the U16’s as three of their players are in the 1st team.
@gungets
Yah. DHS also lost swimming and polo coach Andrew Stewart to WBHS but the effect wasn’t felt as Burt was brought back from Clifton while he was there for the swimming and Leroux was also brought from St Johns for polo when he was still there. This, I think helped a lot in continuity and the boys don’t have to be trying to get used to a new coach now since they’ve been there since 2012.
What were the cricket results?
@HORSEFLY NO.1: LaMarque leaving left a huge hole in the structures at College which are very hard to fill in PMB for reasons already discussed ad nauseum here (and I don’t want them to be seen as excuses – good people succeed dispite obstacles, not due to their absence). Good recruiting and some providence have resolved that and we will see that come through very quickly. College left 5 first team goals in the pool today due to lack of experience, no patience. The 2nds just let it slip in the final chukka, were leading till then … so I see small tactical gaps to be closed, and a 300kg gorilla to be recruited to counter the Doops who are monstrous. Monstrous but not insurmountable – I reckon they can be countered tactically.
Cricket, other than the U16A, will show no result which will flatter Kearsney
@GreenBlooded:
DHS, MC,WBHS,Northwood,Hilton and Kearsney.
There were WaterPolo results for Glenwood U14 today vs Hilton…
@Gungets Tuft:
Yes good coaches do improve teams massively. The DHS U14 swim team isn’t that great but with Burt and Leroux I hear that they are improving loads as a team!
Don’t know about the cricket
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Correct, but watch this space. New coach appointed this week. The boys will improve rapidly, especially the youngsters – several Gr10’s in the firsts side that will transform with good coaching. Another KZN player joining the coaching staff in 4th term.
Any cricket results. Pretty sure the U16A got a result, some others were under way, looking very positive for College when the rain came down?
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Horsey – which schools were in the gala? DHS, WBHS, MC and who else? I guess no GWD due to the embargo………
No U14A results for Glenwood today – due to the entire 2nd form being on induction camp. I think this will affect cricket as well. Not sure if they will reschedule the matches for another time – maybe midweek?
Seems WBHS won all but 3 races yesterday at DHS. They probably lost 1 or 2 to the Glenwood U14 team…
@kcob:
@GreenBlooded:
College not in the greatest space in their polo right now whilst Kearsney is improving alongside DHS.
@kcob: Heard U14A 13-3 to KC. Not sure how big the other margins were.
Kearsney u14 u15 u16 2nds also won all their games vs College in the pool
@GreenBlooded:
Glenwood seem to have a strong U15 side… Impressive
WATERPOLO RESULTS
1st: Hilton_College 10 – 3 Glenwood.
2nd’s Glenwood 6 – 3 Hilton
U16A Hilton 2 – 0 Glenwood
U15A Glenwood 19 – 0 Hilton
Michaelhouse U14A bt Westville_BHS 7 – 5
U15A MHS 6 – 3 WBHS
U14B: WBHS 9 – 3 MHS
U15B MHS 6 – 2 WBHS
Kearsney beat Maritzburg College 10 – 3. Ryan van der Waal, Daniel du Preez, Matt Reece-Edwards, & Ben Not all scoring.
Anyone have the other results from College? U14/U15/U16/2nds?
@Grasshopper:
Hey I saw it on Twitter. Would state others if I knew them…
Hilton have recruited well at U14, I think 3 or 4 KZN players in their team so they’re good.
Don’t know about the Gala boys though…
@star: Thanks. Ill accept after I have arranged a lie detector test
You will see how they improve between now and U18. Soon, with more power failures expected, we will have to take a packet of candles to the D/N games. Just as well the ODI in Paarl is a day game
@Horsie, trust you to state Glenwood losses, well done Hilton. Obviously recruited well for the pool. Glenwood boys will get better as for many it’s the 1st time they playing polo. Also, I wonder if the boys from the gala the night before played?
@star:
How did the Gala go yesterday?
@greens
Hilton U14A water polo beat Glenwood 15-7
Hilton 1st water polo beat Glenwood 10-3
@ Bog- In a 45 over match Westville scored 180/8. Grey College were 161 all out and Westville therefore won by 18 runs. They were unbeaten by winning all their games and therefore won the team award. I was surprized they also won the award for their off the field behaviour. I have always been impressed by the GW boys manners and I am sure the Grey boys are very much Yes Sir No Sir 3 Bags Full Sir.
@Griffon: The Etzebeths is not known for their lack of height or bulk!..his uncles and dad where all big men who played either lock , prop or hooker…There was no way he would not grow into the legacy of is his surname!…
He was on the supplement, PVM- PAP, VLEIS en MELK!
@ Grasshopper : Read about Ezebth during his school days a few days ago. Came to Tygerburg in Grade 8 weighing 56kgs and 1.5m. End of Grade 11, he’s about 112kgs and 2.02m. Really shocked at how much he grew and gained 3 years. That’s a very big growth spurt
Thanks Roger
@Rugger fan: the school might – give them a shout
@star: You still have not told me what the outcome was of the second match, and since you jumped to the Knights so quickly, I am assuming that it was a draw. The problem at Grey with cricket, is competition. Im not sure if things have changed, but until recently, GCB 1st, 2nds, 3rds and 4ths, all played in one league. The same applied to the U15s. As far as the Knights are concerned, too much outside influence. So, they are going through a dip, something the Dolphins are very familiar with.
@Star, heard the Westville okes won some sort of behaviour award, what’s that all about. Really looking forward to the Westville vs Glenwood cricket clash, unfortunate about the rugga.
@Bog, yep a surf off at the Bluff would be interesting. Methinks Grey would come 2nd best in 10 foot monsters! With regards to cricket, I was first change swinging quick, so much swing that I bowled far too many wides for my liking…
@ Bog- I am confused by the fact that GW U15s won 3 and drew with GC( in a game they should have won) and yet Westville won the team award. Does that mean that Westville won all of their games including the 3rd match against you know who
It has been a few years now where the Chevrolet Knights have had an ignition problem or two.
@Grasshopper: You mean that you batted ten and bowled as relief bowler at 6?
Looking forward to the day that Grey can take on GW at surfing. I somehow suspect that Grey might just marginally do better at North Beach than GW would at Maselspoort.
@Roger: Hey Roger (and other Redbloodeds) – my dad just cleared out some old photos and he passed on a few KES photos from the mid1940’s (class photo in 1945 – rugby team in 1946 -2nd XV i think – and athletics team and BE ) – any school historians or OB sites who may be interested ?
@Greenblooded, did you know Dom Sunjka and Leyton Pardey? Two of the biggest schoolboy players I have ever seen. Dom was probably 3rd form and Leyton 2nd form when you were there…Leyton played KZN schools and probably formed the biggest KZN front row in history with Paul De Bruyn of DHS….
@Roger: Steven Jack was a year ahead of me but in the same age-group. Played a few rugger matches with him.
@Roger, spot on with rugga. Too much behind the scenes shenanigans and bias. If you don’t play for the Bulls now you have not got much hope…Give Marx 3 to 5 years to make a name for himself, if he hasn’t made the Lions senior side by then I would say no Bok future. But look at Eben Etzebeth, didn’t make SA schools (stand to be corrected) and two years later a certainty for the Boks…..wow! That is what you call fast tracking….
@Bog, no issues with saying bismarck is the best in the world and a Grey Old Boy, but Adriaan Strauss is average at best. Schalk Brits, Chilliboy, Cooper and Burden are better…..just my opinion…..I’m allowed to have one. With regards to cricket, yes I batted 10 at school and was in many a long last wicket stand, one almost 3 hours when we saved the game due to light. However, those partnerships can last but rarely score many runs. Anyway, it was a draw with Glenwood probably having the better end of the draw. History will say a draw…….give us something we normally get hammered by Grey in other sports….
@Grasshopper: play golf with Steve Jack often – he is my insurance broker as well. Love to remind him of Amir Sohail smashing 29 runs off him in one over at Newlands. Charger was never shy of a few words on the field but he got his comeuppance that day!
@Grasshopper: @GreenBlooded: KES latest international cricketer is Quinton De Kock and rugger player Rhys Williams (Wales). For SA Rugby – perhaps Skarra Ntubeni will crack it? Big competition at hooker though – especially if Malcolm Marx fulfils his promise. Wandile Mjekevu is slowly resurrecting himself at the Sharks but with rugger anything can happen – hit and miss really. Promising cricketers are more likely to hit the big time. Pro rugby as a career choice is fraught with dangers!
@Grasshopper: I do not shoot a messenger- just state the facts. Cricket is a strange game- thats why its never over until the fat lady sings. I have seen some great 10th wicket partnerships. And regarding Adriaan Strauss- a few MOM awards not good enough? Has Cooper practiced his throw -ins? The last time that I saw him, he defied the laws of science- thats how crooked he was throwing in at the line out.
@Grasshopper: Yeah – why not??
@Greenblooded, yep for quite a while too. Can we claim Kitch Christie too because he coached GOB?
@Grasshopper: Plank played for Glenwood Old Boys – that’s where the confusion comes from.
@Roger, yep Steven Jack for cricket and John Allan for rugby. Steve Atherton went to Pinetown. It’s been too long since we had a bok in both sports. Greg Nicol probably in hockey. Plenty of SA Sevens players though, Brian Shabangu and Warren Whiteley the lastest. KES are lucky to have Brian Habana and Graeme Smith to claim, great ambassadors for the school. Joe Van Niekerk too. Funnily enough John Allan’s son is going to Glenwood this year, maybe our next Bok, who knows. I am hoping Kyle Cooper gets a proper run for the Sharks this year as he is a class hooker, far better than Adriaan Strauss in my opinion…
@Roger: Steven Jack for cricket. John Allan for rugger. Both far too long ago. The rugby is certainly set to change in the next few years with som epromising Glenwood U20 representatives.
Plank Atherton is the pride of Pinetown Boys High!!
@Roger: Thanks Roger
Just looking at their stats – some omissions for cricket internationals. MC only has KP on their list – but the school history gives:
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GG Campbell (Scotland) 1921 (not sure good Scotland were back then either
@Grasshopper: who was Glenwood’s last test cricketer – Steve Jack? And springbok rugger player – Steve Atherton?
@Rugger fan: the same website ran various articles on that:
http://www.schoolsportsnews.co.za/category/cricket/test-cricketers-by-school/
DHS, Bishops, KES and Grey High tied third
If you expand that list to include all cricket internationals – i.e ODI, T20 and other countries, KES have produced 27 I believe.
@Roger, surprised to see Glenwood at 13th, we have never been considered a cricketing powerhouse but it seems we are not too bad…..nice :-). Obviously last year we lost heavily to KES but KES did have two superb players in their side. Our best players were in the years prior, Subrayen and co. It seems KES seems to miss schools best sides somehow….hahah. Well done though. Our 1st side this side is forming nicely….
@Bog, I did not write the story…..don’t shoot the messenger….
@BoishaaiPa: @Grasshopper: if—, if—, if— If my uncle had breasts, he would have been my aunt( apart from the WC) BHP, reading between the lines, it would appear, is the only place where you do read. And the ranking? (The list for real cricket)
@Roger: Interesting. Thanks for that. Do you know of a similar list for SA Test Team stats vs schools?
see attached article re: SA Schools cricket players produced:
http://www.schoolsportsnews.co.za/cricket/grey-go-top-of-prestigious-list/
Grey High 38, Bishops 37, KES 36
The u15A Glenwood team played four matches winning three and drawing one. The highlight of the tour was defeating Grey PE by 8 wickets and pushing Grey Bloem to a narrow draw which could have been a victory for Glenwood as Grey were 106/6 chasing 207 to win.
http://www.hssm.co.za/news/cricket/kwazulu-natal/2013/glenwood-cricket-starts-front-foot
@BOG: I can read between the lines…you seem to diminish the fact that another school might have done well in the T20 format. That’s OK and your opinion, but that same school plays in the WP league in time cricket and 50 overs format and have done very well. In 2011 they were at Michaelmas as well and did not lose a game…So your little chirp about real cricket just sounds like sour grapes to me. Grey played in the same T20 competition and format and has yet to win the Knights title…Noord-Kaap keeps klapping them it seems!
@BoishaaiPa: Giving results is not exactly “shouting”. They play the opposition which they are given and if you read further you will notice that I mentioned Michaelmas. There they played stronger teams and won all their matches. And this was real cricket- not tap and giggle or French cricket. That explains why they are rated in the top 5 in SA
@BoishaaiPa: Stem saam ons soutie skole is baie goed met krieket en hokkie.
@BOG: A draw against Rondebosch is not a bad result, they have a good cricket pedigree and team. Wins against Woodridge and Framesby however is not much to shout about as they are not on the same par…at best they will play against our 2nd teams here in WP.
@Greenwood: With 9 Duzi’s then we have probably bumped into each other. My lightie has withdrawn this year so I am looking for a partner. Not interested in singles, looking for someone to steer a double. Not paddled since 2003, only done 3.
I can offer a spot in the College batch (8am start) for any silly bugger that volunteers ..!?!?
Gungets – funny you should say that – with the Duzi coming up next month Beet should create a Duzi post – this “Rugby ” blog has drifted into a general Schoolboy blog covering many aspects of High School which is cool & with College having its own batch in the Duzi this year which in itself is a really it would be a relavent post
for starters I myself have taken part in 9 Duzi’s ……
@Greenwood: PMB same thing – home to Kearsney. I don’t think we had a single fixture completed in the 4th term. Time for you guys to take up paddling ..
dammmm The weather again – rain predicated from Friday to Sunday in Dbn
the lightie was looking forward to playing Hilton after a looong break – looks like this is not going to happen
I see now why my questions have been ignored elsewhere. GCB, at the Grey High festival, drew with Rondebosch and beat both Woodridge College and Framesby. This of course, after winning all their matches at Michaelmas week last year !!!! Regarding age, I recall that Kepler Wessels played firsts when he was in std 6/gr8. (+- 14). In gr 9, he played FS schools and from gr 10, SA schools. He also captained SA schools in matric and I think, also in Gr11
@star: I just think it is a pity that the U16’s would be much weaker without all those boys – Mahmoud is the 4th. The U16’s have surprisingly not had a brilliant time through their past 2 years, so perhaps these boys (superb sportsmen all) will gain by going up. Dunno – I don’t see the 1sts as being the pinnacle, I like strength all the way through. Anyway, it does give some other kids a shot at the A side, pulls all the kids through. I can see them being joined by at least one kid next year.
@Griffon: Not going to happen again in rugby with Boksmart and the new age-banding regulations.
In terms of rugby, I heard Brynard Stander, was playing 1st team at Westville when he was u16, and got a cap when he was still 15. If the kids talented let him play above his age group. Doop Brothers are another example of early bloomers. Craven Week at 16.
In terms of rugby, I heard Brynard Stander, was playing 1st team when he was u16, and got a cap when he was still 15. If the kids talented let him play above his age group. Doop Brothers are another example of early bloomers. Craven Week at 16.
@ Gungets- My information( fairly reliable source) is that it is Tullis/Small and Getkate.
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Luke Schlemmer was in from the end of Grade 9 I think. Westville had most probably one of their best years in 2012 and I believe that had something to do with backing talented individuals from early on.
@ Beet- refer above the Westville experience. However the key must be strong/sound management as confidence is such a key element in cricket and if the structures are not right then kids can be prematurely put to sword. There is also the question of playing with your mates and the enjoyment factor and how the more senior players deal with the young guns.
Westville U16s beat GW last year by 10 wickets partly because GW had promoted some of their young fast bowlers. By sacrificing an age group, these players are now going to add tremendous value upsteam. Will the U16 grouping be better off in terms of their confidence levels and guys that were therefore now exposed to higher level cricket. It is a fine balancing act. I feel that the U16s should be allowed to play in the 4th quarter which will be a win win situation allround.( That is if they get to play with the weather gods against us
My son played 1st cricket at College from U15. Had to eventually call it a day because of his back (opening bowler) but that would have happened anyway. If the kids mind is strong enough, go for it.
@star: Where did you get that information, and who are they. I think Tullis might be one. Pretty sure Mahmoud was U15 last year but played 1sts. How old was Luke Schlemmer when he played 1sts?
Saying U15 makes it sound like they are young but they are actually U16 this year, so just marginally early. Anyway, to my mind cricket, and to an extent hockey (we had an U15 player in the 1sts last year), there should not be any restrictions. I can think of a few of last years U15’s cricket that will do just fine if they are picked.
@Grasshopper: I would say keep kids in there right age groups
For cricket, if they are good enough they must play 1st. Look at Sachin Tendulkar and Darryl Cullinan etc, playing mens cricket at like 14.
@star: What is your opinion on this. Good or bad thing generally. Obviously there will always be exceptions to the rule.
I see that 3 College U15s( from last year) are going to the Ists. This raises an interesting debate about the risks and rewards of blooding young talent early as opposed to letting them progress more slowly through the age groups. Cricket does not have the same age restrictions as rugby.
@Grasshopper: Thinking now – you may be correct about them being day dogs. A guy I was at school with has them at his house all the time and he mentioned to me he may let them stay full time (mahala!!) during term time with his boy who is also starting this year. I still think it’s skumbs at the top on the left though so maybe Skinny has been taken in by this family.
@GreenBlooded: They mix it up, pair 1 boys and one girls school and swim in teams. Might be the one gala where even the non-swimmers are queueing up to swim :-)
@Grasshopper: I think GHS will be Maritzburg Girls High – their sister school across the road. Epworth and St Annes are also there so 3 boys schools and 3 girls schools. At least the lads will have something to look at.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Skumbuzo is at the top on the left. I can’t see Skinny. Hope he hasn’t had a ‘change of heart’ like the KZN captain did.
@Grasshopper:
Doubt it very much. Dont live that close. Maybe they are just cut from the picture hey?
Horsie . Gibson house mob – – you must have sharp eyes my man !
Grant Kretzmann apparently no longer coming to DHS as head of rugby
@GreenBlooded:
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Humbleness?? Eeeeish. Humility boet.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: I think the quality of the comments should also count…………..
@Horsie, hahah, yep my mini-hibernation was my move back from the UK and not having internet access for a while. Now sorted with 10mbps uncapped so will be up to speed now…
@Grasshopper:
I remember a time where you were only about four comments behind Beet and you went into a sort of a mini-hibernation and when you cameback he was 100 ahead.
Very exciting that we are about to enter our busiest period of this site in blogging terms. News,results etc will start flowing here in a week or so!
@Horsie, yes Beet is obviously ahead he is the site owner
@Gungets, is GHS Glenwood?
By the time the DHS A and B gala starts teams will still be sorting themselves out so I guess this is a pre-season thing.
Am sure WBHS is keen to show that their new batch is every bit as good as years past
College – lucky it is a slow start .. not…
Fri 18th – A gala at DHS
Sat 19th – All sports vs Kearsney at Gollege
Tues 22nd – Sunfoil Day/Night cricket vs Hilton
Wed 23rd – 150th Gala vs House, Hilton, GHS, St Annes, Epworth
Sat 26th – Cricket vs Hilton at College
Sun 27th – CSA Franchise T20 v s St Charles (1st team only)
@GreenBlooded:
Lol yeah I do and if I won I assure you I would accept with grace and humbleness…
@Grasshopper:
I believe Beet is 101 posts ahead of YOU and so still a long way to go for I.
Grade 8’s all over KZN starting school today, give ’em a week or two and we will see which school uses their hand properly…
@Greenblooded, that is dedication from Horsie and he is catching me as the top blogger….just 76 posts less….
Glenwood fixtures here; http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/sites/default/files/Cricket%20Fixtures%20Term1%202013.pdf
Glenwood results pre-season tours here; http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/sites/default/files/Eastern%20Cape%20Tour-1.pdf
Our Under15A’s look pretty strong. For Horsie and Gungets here is the pic of our boarder grade 8’s; http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/gibson-house-welcomes-new-boys
@HORSEFLY NO.1: 01:54? Do you ever sleep? I nominate you for most dedicated blogger award.
Well for DHS its the A and B Gala on Friday.
1st,2nd and U16 cricket vs Krugersdorp on Saturday and CocaCola schools T/20 vs Kearsney the following Monday.