| TIME | SCHOOL | SCHOOL | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Day-1 | ||||
| 08h30 | Strand | 36 | 3 | Punt |
| 09h30 | Brackenfell | 7 | 17 | Westville |
| 10h30 | Tygerberg | 22 | 18 | Menlopark |
| 11h30 | SACS | 10 | 6 | Framesby |
| 12h30 | Oakdale | 22 | 12 | Glenwood |
| 13h30 | Paul Roos | 12 | 12 | Monument |
| 14h30 | Boland Landbou | 19 | 0 | Kempton Park |
| 15h30 | Paarl Gim | 12 | 19 | Grey College |
| 16h30 | HJS Paarl | 20 | 25 | Waterkloof |
| Day-2 | ||||
| 09h00 | Tygerberg | 0 | 21 | Westville |
| 10h00 | Paarl Gim | 7 | 10 | Glenwood |
| 11h00 | HJS Paarl | 25 | 15 | Menlo Park |
| 12h00 | Grey College | 14 | 3 | Oakdale |
| 13h30 | Paul Roos | 17 | 5 | Waterkloof |
| 14h30 | Boland Landbou | 10 | 14 | Monument |
| 09h00 | Brackenfell | 7 | 6 | Kempton Park |
| 10h00 | SACS | 34 | 0 | Punt |
| 11h00 | Strand | 10 | 13 | Framesby |
| Day-3 | ||||
| 08h30 | Grey Kollege | 39 | 0 | Waterkloof |
| 09h30 | Framesby | 24 | 21 | Tygerberg |
| 10h30 | Glenwood | 12 | 19 | HJS Paarl |
| 11h30 | Paul Roos | 22 | 5 | Westville |
| 12h30 | Paarl Gim | 13 | 15 | Monument |
| 08h30 | Oakdale Landbou | 3 | 6 | SACS |
| 09h30 | Brackenfell | 14 | 10 | Punt |
| 10h30 | Strand | 0 | 41 | Kempton Park |
| 11h30 | Menlo Park | 10 | 15 | Boland Landbou |
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@kcman: On a different note, last year their was an u14 team from a little known E Cape school called Hudson Park that dished out some all-mighty thrashings to all and sundry, including Kingswood.
However, I’ve seen one or two of the HP u15 results this year and the decline in form is significant – e.g. they were easily beaten by Eldoraigne and beat Piketberg by a similar margin to St John’s.
Do you know why that is the case? Have the bigger E Cape schools poached some of their players, or have the opposition caught up in size to the ‘mature looking’ HP u14s of 2012?
@kcman: St Andrews had one of the smallest 1st teams at the Saints festival, but were the best team there…so I wouldn’t be too worried about the size of the Kingswood u15 team. The u15 team was similar to MH and Kearsney (and to a lesser extent Hilton) – i.e. medium sized forwards with good technique…but very large backs that were quick, skillful and strong.
My son played touch rugby against some of the Kingswood u15 rugby boys at the u15 IS Cricket Festival a few months ago and realised even then that they would have a very formidable rugby team.
@Vleis: The Kingswood u14’s had a reasonably successful year last year so we are expecting big things from them. Lots of skill but I do not know if the size is quite there as yet, we seem to feed our kids different food at KC, none of our boys are big.
Between you and I, Sid will definitely be sending his kid to Grey, I see him everyday and twist his arm properly, he is firmly entrenched in the Kingswood fold despite having many mates with ties to SAC and Grey.
@CapeMan: Good assesment, and unfortunately fairly highlighting a valid point that too often the games in the age groups are decided by hometown calls, either blatant or worse, subtle calls that change the momentum of a game. Wish these uncles/teachers/dadsOB’s would realize you are doing the boys no favors by handing them a win, as they are setting them up for a moerse reality check when they enter the real world. Hope you get a fair game this weekend
@Ploegskaar: hahaha…That’s one heck of a tough warm up game. Its never easy at the farm. 14-18 to boland in a cracker of a game. Here’s the match report http://sacsrugby.com/2012/05/14a-match-report-against-boland-landbou/. Should be another cracker
@kcman: Yes, I was at the u15 ISRF.
Kingswood look good – I’ll be interested to hear how they do this year. How did they do last year as u14s? That said, I was told that they’ve recruited a few new Dale backline players in 2013, so they will be stronger than last year.
Kingswood are incredibly strong given their small pupil numbers. I chatted to some parents of kids in smaller schools at the festival. They said that the smaller schools significantly ameliorate the problem by playing hockey on Friday night and rugby on Saturday. At St Albans; however, the pupils are shared between a number of different winter sports. So, despite having 104 kids in gr 9, there are only 39 rugby players. Some of the hockey players would walk into the A rugby team. Indeed, one lad played hockey in gr 8, 9 and 10 and only started rugby in gr 11…but has nevertheless already been given a two year Bulls rugby contract after only one year of rugby!
P.S. I also heard a rumour that Syd may not be sending his son to Kingswood. You will have to bend his ear the next time you are in the Wyvern.
@CapeMan: Yes, it is strange that all your teams got yellow cards while Jeppe didn’t, especially as the latter are know for their ‘robust’ play.
@CapeMan: Can’t quite recall the score from last year, but at least your boys will have a nice workout/warm-up this coming weekend, before you start playing the serious competition. Attie the 8th man should give your boys some good tackle practice, he quite likes giving and taking them. All the best for your season!
That’s good to hear then. I had a chat with their coach at Skonk and that’s the one thing that they are really working on this year. The fact that they can play some extremely great rugby in patches is a big worry for him.
There has been some changes in selection with regards to the front row, so hopefully that fixes that area of concern.
That match should be an absolute cracker.
@TJ:
Don’t think its been ignored mate. Think its just because they were inconsistent last year. Their biggest test locally will be their first game on the 20th vs DHS so if they win there everyone will take notice.
I do like them though! They had a good 1st half last year vs DHS but their scrums did go a bit backward? Area of concern? They led 10-0 at HT.
2nd half was a different story… Seemed they were playing a diferent DHS team…
Nice to see that everyone is disregarding the threat posed by the College u15 side this year. They had a good set of results up at the Francois Swart week beating John Vorster 82-0, Nelspruit 18-15 and EG Jansen 22-17. Ignore this side at you peril.
sorry “got” not “get”.. I shouldn’t type fast
@Vleis: I hear you but it was highly suspicious that all our teams from u14 to the 1st team get yellow cards while the Jeppe boys didn’t get a single card. That being said, I cant blame the Jeppe boys because they aren’t the refs. I’m not sure about the game vs jeppe this year as I don’t see it in our annual fixtures this year. @hopper my boys beat that Oakdale team and I hear that your boys are really good as well.
@Grasshopper:
Yeah the GWD team is playing well. As far as the Oakdale game goes, I hear the GWD boys felt they couldve easily won and they were their own worst enemies sometimes. They are good. Wouldvee been nice to see the DHS side there. They surely wouldve pulled off a couple of good surprise wins!
@Vleis: Were you at the u15 ISRF ?
I do know that Kingswood were missing quite a few from their pack, this side will be one to watch going forward. It seems as though recruiting talented boys from Grade 8 will start seeing Kingswood once more become the force we were.
Just remember that the u15 pool of players at Kingswood is about 40 boys and not all play rugby.
Some great results for Glenwood there, showing that our rugby is improving at age group level. The Under15’s made up for our heavy loss at 1st team level against Paarl Gim, well done boys!! Oakdale must have a very good side….
@CapeMan: To be fair, the refs for all A and 1st team games are Union refs, not teachers. As such, while there may have been slightly different interpretations to how the refs blow in the Cape, there should not have been any bias. These refs are assessed on a random basis, so can’t afford to blow poorly if they want to get promoted.
That said, I understand your frustration, as I have felt the same from time to time in the past.
Is the annual Jeppe/SACS fixture cancelled, or is it taking place later this year?
@Vleis: True but I do seem to recall 2 yellow cards in that game If I’m not mistaken. I may be wrong. Infact most of our teams got yellow cards. First team also had two yellow cards and still won. I remember many SACS teachers and coaches complaining about the refs up north.
@CapeMan: I seem to remember the Jeppe u14 team beating SACS fairly comfortably last year, but I may be wrong. When will the schools meet for the annual Jake White/Percy Montgomery derby day this year, or is that event stillborn?
@HORSEFLY NO.1: As I told you horsie, my lads are good
@Vleis:
Well, schools are ranked based on this years results alone so it’ll change as time goes, example no.1 could change as Affies beat Grey last year etc
@HORSEFLY NO.1: That’s interesting. There are a number of schools with rankings too high (incl. St Albans) because there are many strong schools missing from the list. Also, DHS is obviously ranked too low relative to the other Natal schools.
To be honest, I don’t think an u15 ranking is a good idea – I’d prefer it if they disregarded this experiment.
@Vleis:
Probably, did you see this attempt at ranking the top U15 sides?
http://m.facebook.com/141879789211257/timeline/story?ut=2&hash=-2201015418512497153&wstart=0&wend=1367391599&ustart&refid=17
St Albans at 37th there…
@HORSEFLY NO.1: The ISRF u15 festival is now finished and my opinion remains the same. The top team is a tie between MH and Kingswood and the next best is a tie between St Albans and Kearsney.
Horsey, I’m told that Kearsney were missing a few of their top backs at this festival through injury.
@CapeMan:
Yeah but I think that those games vs the Joburg schools were 20mins each with 3 played on same day and last two on the 2nd day. It wouldve been massive scores had the games been 50mins as normal.
As for their countrywide ranking, I don’t know hey, if you take a look at the Glenwood U15 side they are doing pretty well vs the best teams in SA, beating Gimmies, coming back from 12-0 down against HJS at HT to lose 19-12 and driving a very good Affies side close last year and the Glenwood team is only ranked 2nd in KZN. But no doubt that WC has much more depth than KZN, here we are stretched as it is! Now DHS is fighting for the top boys(and they are getting them).
Think that this U15 age-group is one of those age-groups in KZN with lots of talent
Very good team indeed, but our u14As also played st johns & st st stithians last year and beat them 29-0 & 53-0 respectively. They were one of the best u14 sides in the Cape but not the best I believe. I’m not doubting they will rule KZN but the country is a different prospect. If you are the best in the WC, you are more than likely guaranteed a top 2 finish in the country…
@Cape Man’
This is a pic of the squad last year http://durbanzone.co.za/mag/index.php/2012/04/20/dhs-u14-rugby/
The B team is also good . last year the A side beat Port Natal A 33-7 and this year the B side played the Port Natal A and won 26-0 showing the good depth at School in u15
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Is that in KZN or the country? Saying they will be third in the country is a massive ask if thats what you meant
@CapeMan:
Yeah i don’t know anything about this years squad. haven’t tested themselves much especially since they pulled out of the festival. But i think that we’ll have a good squad in 2014 where our u16 of 2012 will be in matric( in u16 they played 15 won 10 lost 5) After that we do expect the school to have good teams every year on especially in 2016 when the school turns 150. They willve lost their current u15 props as they are in grade 10 but with the quality in u14 this year they’ll be more than covered.
Its just that its still too far away but im looking at a top 3 finish in 2016 based on everyones u14 and u15 sides.
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Sorry to hear about the boy. In a nutshell, are you DHS old boys waiting for 2016? Will you guys be competitive before then?Perhaps 2015??!
@CapeMan:
Yeah our boys aren’t bad. Last year the played 17 won 16 lost 1. The loss was a controversial one against Glenwood, two absolutely fine DHS tries were denied by the ref! They have lost a player unffortunately this year whom passed away so everyone in KZN is waiting to see how they react.
Lol the Glenwood U15 boys see that game as what is probably going to be the biggest of their season. Think we’ll pull it off though.
I wish they’d also come to the HJS Paarl festival. They wouldve played quite well, pulled off some surprise wins I’m sure
@HORSEFLY NO.1: 22-12 is no fluke though. That oakdale team is good. Make no mistake about that. I hear your boys aren’t that shabby as well
@CapeMan:
I did hear that the Glenwood team just never got going against Oakdale. Too many mistakes etc.. They made themselves play catch up rugby
Excuse me for my grammar errors above. Not ”there” but “their”
Seems like my boys are are there as well. Undefeated at this festival beating an oakdale that beat a glenwood team which in turn beat paarl gim. Although I know you can never read into results like that, il take it :mrgreen:. I do know that this team is a very good team judging from there results of last year
Aahh thanks. Kearsney seem to be struggling as they are a good team. Only lost 17-10 a couple of weeks ago to Glenwood who just beat Paarl Gim 10-7!
RE Transvalia:
Heard they take part in the Beeld trophy so obviously from Gauteng. Saw a couple of pics from their game against DHS and Jeez are they BIG! Huge loose trio, massive props etc! Good to see the DHS boys can hold their own against bigger teams!( They won 17-5)
No, St Andrews (Bloem) lost by 48- 0 v DHS at Parktown last year, whereas I was referring to St Andrews (Grahamstown) above. That said, St Andrews (Bloem) are also at this festival and have improved a lot – they lost by only 12 to 5 v Kearsney today.
@Vleis:
Wow! MHS must have had some imports if they are performing better than Kearsney!
RE KZN players: as far as I know MHS only has one KZN U13A player. Maybe in the B squad? I know Kearsney U15 has 8 KZN U13A/B players. DHS,Kearsney and Glenwood have the most A player with 4.
Should be an intereting season then, the only time I saw the MHS team play was aginst DHS and DHS won 26-0 without moving from 2nd gear so maybe a few imports from MHS??
Is that the same St Andrews team that DHS beat 48-0 last year at Parktown?
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Bear in mind that the games are only 25 minutes.
The Natal sides, in the main, have done very well at the ISRF. Even the smaller schools like Clifton, Thomas More, etc have done well considering their small pupil numbers. Perhaps it is partly due to the fact that they play rugby in junior school. Penryn (from Nelspruit) is another school that have done very well despite small pupil numbers. St Charles are looking much stronger in 2013 than they did in 2012…due to some imports I’m told.
St Andrews (Grahamstown) lost to Hilton by 7 to 3…but were unluckily in my opinion. St Albans beat Hilton by 7 to 0…abut the margin should have been a wider.
Kearsney are a decent team, but are definitely not as good as MH based on their performances in this tournament. They struggled to beat Penryn (10 to 0) despite the fact that Penryn only have 50 boys per grade.
Kingswood were already a decent u14 team last year, but have further benefited from two new strong backline players from Dale this year.
RE MH: I’m told that they have five KZN u13 players.
@Vleis:
As far as KZN U15 rankings go, Kearsney is ahead of MHS and challenge the bigger teams more than MHS. Last year MHS U14 lost about 28-0 to Glenwood and Kearsney lost 8-7. Against DHS Kearsney lost 20-0 and MHS lost 26-0. Think Kearsney beat WBHS. So well done to MHS if they’ve improved so much. I hear Jaryd Kleynhans is playing quite well for House
There have also been a number of u15 fixtures at the ISRF at Hilton.
In my opinion, the best teams thus far are Kingswood and Michaelhouse, who drew 8 all today. The next best are probably between St Albans and Kearsney. St Albans lost by 15 to 10 v Michaelhouse earlier today (two tries each) , but many neutral parents thought that St Albans was the better side. Indeed, the wing for MH clearly stepped out before scoring their 7 pointer…but the St Albans linesman was chatting to a mate and missed same!!
Andre Joubert’s son (8th man) is the star player for MH in my opinion, but the backline is classy too. The forwards will need to beef up in the years to come, as the St Albans forwards bossed them.
Beet. Have you got the fixture list for the Skonk Nicholson festival ? I think that it is starting tomorrow.
KZN teams won 3/6. Not bad at all! Well done to Glenwood too for beating Paarl Gim. I also hear that vs HJS Paarl they were 12-0 down at HT and outscored Paarl 12-7 in the 2nd half but lost 19-12. What a season its going to be! DHS starting with College! Massive game!
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Sorry, I have not heard of Transvalia. They can’t be from Jhb or Pta, must be out of town – perhaps Vanderbijlpark?
I really am very surprised at the decline of Menlo u15. I can only assume that they were missing their speedsters that are at the SA national athletics championships this week. Still, very surprising.
I see that Jeppe u15 are still one of the teams to beat in the north. They comfortably beat EG Jansen u15 and also beat Pietersberg u15 by the same margin as Affies u15 and bear in mind that Pietersberg beat KES u15 by about 60 points. It looks like KES are in trouble, with their u15 side doing terribly, their u14 side losing to Saints a few weeks ago and their 1st team losing to Trinity!!! What…..the….hell…is going on there???
@star:
Yes that how it was but with westville ahead of college. I do think it’ll still hold. This age-group is more even that most but I do have faith in that School will once again emerge top. If you saw the DHS games last year you wouldve seen that it wasn’t really as close as you think barring the College game. The Glenwood game I won’t even talk about. As for DHS vs WBHS last year, the 12-5 scoreline to DHS flattered WBHS. A couple of wrong decisions by the referee and an injury at the wrong time made it that close. There was nothing close about the Kearsney game.
If the DHS team plays to its full potential then I firmly believe that they will be above the rest with everyone else fighting for second
@ Horsy- it looks like another competitive season for this group of players. Do you think your previous ranking from U14 will still hold? ( I think it was DHS,GW,Kearsney,MC and then WBHS.) I do not think that there has been as even an age group for a very long time which bodes well for the future at provincial level(still early days though)
HJS Paarl beat Menlopark 25-15
@Tandem:
WBHS beat Tygerberg 21-0. Glenwood beat Gim 10-7
@HORSEFLY NO.1: Keep sending the scores please Horsefly .
@HORSEFLY NO.1:
I see it was a typo. Helpmekaar won 12-8. DHS wouldve beaten them…
@Vleis:
Seeing. On another site that Helpmekaar U15 lost 12-87 to Transvalia. Is that even possible
@Rugger fan:
They are currently down 21-0 against WBHS
@vleis
Do you know anything about the Transvalia U15A side and how good they are? Seems DHS only beat them 17-7. They must be good if so
Tygerberg looking good across the age groups.
I’m surprised to see Waterkloof beat HJS away from home – a very good result for Klofies. I’m even more surprised to see that Menlo lost to Tygerberg. Last year, Menlo’s u14 were one of the top u14 teams in the country (they beat Waterkloof u14). Does anyone know how/why they have declined so much this year?