DAY | DATE | SCHOOL | SCHOOL | EVENT | ||
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Sat | 14/06/2014 | Glenwood | 64 | 27 | Northwood | |
Sat | 14/06/2014 | DHS | 15 | 52 | Maritzburg College | |
Sat | 14/06/2014 | Hilton | 14 | 59 | Westville | |
Sat | 14/06/2014 | Kearsney | 7 | 45 | Michaelhouse | |
Sat | 14/06/2014 | Clifton | 13 | 5 | St Charles | |
Fri | 13/06/2014 | Dale | 41 | 13 | Cambridge | |
Fri | 13/06/2014 | Hudson Park | 48 | 5 | Port Rex | |
Sat | 14/06/2014 | Kingswood | 28 | 42 | St Andrew’s | K-DAY! |
Sat | 14/06/2014 | Queen’s | 55 | 0 | Stirling | |
Thu | 12/06/2014 | Selborne | 63 | 22 | Grens | |
Sat | 14/06/2014 | St David’s | 37 | 7 | St Alban’s | |
Sat | 14/06/2014 | St John’s | 32 | 26 | Pretoria BH | |
Sat | 14/06/2014 | KES | 45 | 13 | St Stithians | |
Sat | 14/06/2014 | Eldoraigne | 22 | 54 | Waterkloof | |
Fri | 13/06/2014 | Helpmekaar | 15 | 38 | Menlopark | |
Fri | 13/06/2014 | Kempton Park | 66 | 3 | Vereeniging Gim | |
Sat | 14/06/2014 | Alberton | 39 | 10 | Dinamika | |
Sat | 14/06/2014 | Randberg | 17 | 19 | Linden | |
Sat | 14/06/2014 | Ermelo | 31 | 22 | Secuda |
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@Jimbo: Thanks for the carrot awarded by you to Hilton. Maybe want to reconsider after yesterday and last weekend?
@Vleis – The Boys High u16 A team are a good team but there are major problems inside the team. Too many parents interfering, too many opinions on how they should play, etc. They started the season well but after a few losses, the meddling brigade have come out and this has resulted in some below par performances.
It doesn’t seem like bursaries are on the cards just yet. However, I wouldn’t rue them out as I think they are now a necessary part of rugby. It would be nice if the Blue Bulls could send a few of the school boy recruits to Boys High. Players are being sent to Southdowns where they hardly play any competitive fixtures.
I think Ryno is connected to the BB so he may get a few of the u16 recruits who come through the ranks.
I would certainly like to see Boys High get a player like the lock you guys had last year (Abongile).
@kosie: Ek dink julle het n baie goeie kans vir n wen Saterdag!! Sterkte
@Bosveldpa: Eldo speel Menlo die naweek maar dit word seker nie as ‘n groot game gesien nie. Die wedstryd is by Menlo
@Bosveldpa: Ons wonder nie wat die uitslag sou gewees het nie !Ons weet!! En as jy twee breinselle het sal jy dit ook weet!! Niks keer die Garsie beer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@BOG: jy se ook maar net iets om iets te se
plaas het jy aangehou ry randfontein se kant toe en daar by robinson dam gaan uitkamp. ek hoor daar is nog net 7 moorde die laaste 8 maande gepleeg. gaan rek of trek jou kierie daar en flip flop in die dam in
Die Menlopark vs Helpmekaar wedstryd was teleurstellend. Ek wens eerder my coin het geval op die Waterkloof vs Eldo game Saterdag. Maar ‘n man kan maar net een so wedstryd oor ‘n naweek inpas tussen al die dorp aankope. Was nogal verbaas dat daar so min toeskouers was Vrydagaand.
Was eintlik oppad Randfontein toe, maar onthou toe dat Randfontein en Affies nie gespeel het Saterdag nie. Sorry, nie Randfontein, ek bedoel Garsfontein… Gaan julle julle naam verander Bere? Julle bynaam kan dan Randrekkers word
Die Garsfonteiners gaan seker nou vir altyd wonder wat die uitslag kon gewees het en dat Saterdag moontlik hul tweede verloor van die seisoen kon wees.
Wanneer is die volgende groot games in Pretoria?
As mens ‘n coin moes flip tussen Middelburg en Worcester, waar moet mens hoop dit val? Waar gaan die beter rugby wees?
@Festus February: Na n lang afwesigheid, is jy weer terug? Jy het nie moontlik vir Nonnie en haar vriendinne in jou afwesigheid raakgeloop nie? Is dit waar dat jou ma jou “Festus” genoem het omdat jy met n pitsweer in jou poeppol gebore is?
@Tang: Last year Boys High u15A beat SJC u15A by 30 points, but this year Boys High u16A lost to SJC u16A by 40 points. That’s a 70 point swing, which is staggering.
Will Boys High also be offering scholarships/bursaries in future? If so, will they do so only at gr8 intake, or at later age groups too?
Anyway, congrats on the first step, as I’m sure that most would like to see Boys High return to their strength of old.
@Vleis – I am very happy with the announcement of Ryno van der Merwe as the new Boys High Director of Rugby. You are 100% right it could not come a moment too soon.
Ryno will have a huge task on his hands but I think he will be a huge success.
No excuses for losing to St Johns. It looks like St Johns have made a huge effort in their A teams.
One has to put this Boys High season in perspective. The first side is young and they have a new coach. The bulk of this first side will be back next year and I expect a huge change in attitude and belief.
At age group level, PBHS have large numbers but I think they may have lost a little rugby quality to schools who are offering rugby bursaries. It is amazing how the first side results have affected the age group teams. I think the new director of rugby will be able to sort out a few things and insure some of the basics are done properly.
Again – no excuses. Boys High collectively need to stand together as one entity and take responsibility for this season. I believe each team is probably playing 25% below potential.
@Deon Pitzer: ag nee gross deon pitzer. jy moet daai bottie los my kroon dit maak jou mal
@Festus February, Aaah, jy het my dus met my skoonma bespreek…..of my suster.
@Deon Pitzer: as jou ma n snor en n baard het dan mag dit so wees
@Festus February: Klink of jy met my ma gepraat het oor my?
@Deon Pitzer: ek se maar eerder niks . my ma het my geleer as met niks goeds van iemand kan se dan swyg jy eerder maar
@Deon Pitzer: Ja edel van inbors! Duidelik dalk ‘n gesigs probleem maar edel van inbors; sout van die aarde!
Ek neem aan die persoon wat my ken het jou vertel hoe sinvolle en kalm jong man ek is?
@Deon Pitzer: ja en die mense saam jou in vergaderings glo nie n woord wat jy se as hulle lees hoeveel twak jy hier skryf. hoeka die naweek met iemand gepraat wat jou ken
@Festus February: En swaksiende.
@Deon Pitzer: los net die bottie uit my kroon. daai goed maak jou erg aggro
@kosie: ek het ook gedog dis eerder Quantums, daai manne sal mos nie hi aces ry. Dis eerder tygerberg en daai ander Parow skole wat met Ventures sal ry. nie die hogeres van stellenbosch en paarl. miskien die gimmies.
Ok dan, ‘n CL registrasie Quantum met ‘n man agter die stuur. Ek sal my bes probeer. Gaan juis môre weer in die rigting van Gordonsbaai. Ek sal kuslangs ry, en daar by Balbreker Baai sit en wag. Ek sal probeer om jou op hoogte te hou.
@Festus February: Wat se Hi ace arm gatte is dit. Dis net Quantums! Ek dink ook Pitzy se spookvrou mag ‘n man wees en daarom sien hy dit nie raak nie. Soek net vir die regte ding! ‘n Quantum
@Festus February: Met die spookvrou van Uniondale agter die stuur? Of is die spookvrou in Rio?
@Deon Pitzer: ek sien die hi ace is nou net hier verby Temperance Town
@kosie: Dit was tong in die kies bedoel. Garsfontein is inelkgeval ‘n Kaapse skool, met sy basis in die Swartland.
@Tang: I see that Boys High has just hired a new director of rugby – Ryno van der Merwe. His appointment is not a moment too soon, as all your A teams lost to St John’s on Sat. I can understand that happening once in a blue moon v Jeppe…but St John’s?! What’s going on at Boys High this year?
@Deon Pitzer: It’s not due to a lack of wanting to play Affies. Affies decided not to play Garsfontein.
Nobody in Pretoria will beat Garsfontein this year. If they have their full team, I doubt if any school team will beat them this year. I know very few outside Pretoria will agree with me. They can match anybody up front and have the skill at the back to use the ball to good effect.
Its just a pity we will not see them against some of the Cape schools
@Tang: But Garsfontein have not faced Affies yet. How can anyone claim that Garsfontein are the championd of Pretoria if they have not faced Affies?
I just watched highlights of Garsfontein VS Menlo Park on You Tube.
Embrose Papier is a special talent. Garsfontein are well drilled and play fantastic attacking rugby. Take nothing away from Menlo, but Grasfontein are in a league of their own in Pretoria.
@NW_Knight: Now that I’ve engaged my brain – Jonks was AR4 at the stadium on Saturday so I guess time did not allow him to do the 1st team.
@GreenBlooded: Agreed. He was fine in the U16 game, but it was one way traffic. It was a pleasure to watch the 2nd team game – never heard one complaint from the crowd (and I know there were many who had no idea who was reffing). Shows the impact (or maybe lack of impact) a good ref has on a game.
@NW_Knight: Can’t blame the guy – he arrives mentally prepared for the U16A game and get’s lumped with the 1st as well. Tough thing to do when you have already reffed a game and were not mentally prepared for it. I know the guy – he’s a good ref but not Tier 1 First team IMO. I wonder why Marius Jonker didn’t do the 1st? When he is available they should give him the best game of the day.
@GreenBlooded: I agree with @umbiloburger. I didn’t realise it was the same person that did the U16A game. What made it more apparent that he was struggling was that Marius Jonker reff’d the 2nd team game immediately before – chalk and cheese. Agree about U15A as well – could easily have resulted in a punch up.
@Grasshopper: Wrong assumption. Glenwood were simply superb in the first half, while Northwood looked decidedly average. The GW loose trio worked extremely well together and I thought that Jaco Coetzee was the man of the match.
Second half saw a different Northwood side (in attitude). They were making the tackles and stopped kicking the ball to the opposition. With ball in hand, they outscored Glenwood in the 2nd half. The change in the game disrupted Glenwood and frustration crept in. Van Niekerk was red carded for repeatedly punching the Northwood 4 – some sort of rage going on there? Glenwood played very good rugby and deserved their win.
The St Charles vs Clifton was a shocking display of rugby. I played in that game myself and I must say it was the worst game of rugby that have ever played with the team.
We couldn’t do basic things like catch the ball or get clean ball to the back line.
One of our locks also went down early in the game and line outs didn’t function well from there on.
We have a tough game against House this weekend. Hard work will be needed to perform against a very strong MHS side.
@umbiloburger: I’m speechless!! They must simply not appoint him if that is the level of his commitment. This is not a 5th division club match – the high profile school matches are highly sought after – if this guy couldn’t be bothered there are plenty of guys that would kill for such a quality game.
@McCulleys Workshop: sorry, did somewhere in my post give you the indication we would have beaten house with those injured? Then you were wrong!
@Hanswors: Dankie vir die game. Kloof was beter op aanval. Eldo se verdediging agter het hul span in die steek gelaat.
@Beet the final score was Waterkloof 47-22 Eldoraigne. Not that it changes much. 2 tries in the last 2 minutes let the score look a lot worse
@umbiloburger: Eish I had good intentions of getting to this u15A game to see what the MHS had to deliver but sadly other commitments arose on Saturday morning I just missed it. Pity!
@GreenBlooded: Thanks for the input. There was a tendency for the Kearsney scrum to go up instead of backwards. A lot of folks pinned the blame on the MHS prop for scrumming up. I don’t recall the scrum popping last week when MHS played College with MHS then using the tighthead who played in the 2nd XV game vs KC at LH or earlier in the season when MHS played against Glenwood and I can’t help but wonder how things turned out when MHS played Westville, another strong scrum?
I guess it was bound to happen sometime during the season. Without any depth to speak of, KC fell apart when Tristian Tedder was injured. With Dixon turning his ankle during the warm-up and having lost our hooker mid-week and a lock the week before, KC was no match for a rampant MHS side bristling with intent and individual brilliance. However, even at full-strength, KC would have been run-over by MHS in such good form. A glimmer of hope for next season is the way in which the KC U16A team outplayed a good MHS side for a fairly comfortable win. Congrats to my MHS buddies who joined me for the game and to my son who never gave up playing hard. He should be a handful next season.
@GreenBlooded: I cannot understand what is going on with the DBN refs. Yesterday the appointed ref for the 1st team e didn’t arrive…apparently the second time he has done so this year. Totally unacceptable. This meant that the U16A referee had to do the game. He was adequate but clearly battled. I believe most referees were unavailable due to the test!!! Not good enough. The poor lad who did the U15A game was way out of his depth and he lost control in the 2nd minute. The biggest frustration of the day was watching referees being pedantic at marginally screw throw ins at uncontested line outs and yet ignoring screw scrum feeds and blatant foot up at scrum time. I believe the formation of a schoolboy society is coming about soon so that should help the schools. @beet: Did you get to watch the U15A match Beet. That is a surprise result.
@beet: In the 2nd XV game I think House got away with absolute murder at scrum time. The House tighthead and hooker popped the scrum almost every time without sanction. I think right at the end he finally clicked on and pinged House for illegally popping the scrum – too little too late. Not sure what effect that would have had on the result. It’s a seemingly innocuous thing – but disrupting a scrum like that can have a massive effect on front-foot ball from first phase and hence a huge effect ont he game. Also not sure why he blew the 1st half with 6 mins on the clock (I thought at the time to make up time so the 1st could start on time) but then took the 2nd half to the full 30 minutes. Odd.
I thought the 1st XV ref got it right early on – maybe he got it pointed out to him during the 2nd XV game – but he nailed the House team for illegal scrumming and it seemed to nip it in the bud.
@GreenBlooded: I wanted to ask you for your opinion on the first half scrums. They were a focal point with many scrums and Kearsney generally enjoying the benefit of the ref’s whistle in spite of looking like the team under pressure.
@Far Meadows: @kcob: Only saw the first half before running the gauntlet down to Kings Park – but the Kearsney forwards were just not in the game at all. It wasn’t only a case of being outplayed – they simply did not get out of bed this morning. There was nobody at the breakdown, there was even a case where a penalty kick rebounded off the goalpost and the forwards were still on the 10m line. That alone explains the scoreline for me.
Not lekker to see Roberts go off concussed. Was not there to see Dixon and Tedder go off – but there are 3 CW players gone (hopefully not) in one match. Add Tredoux to the mix – and 2 hectic matches next weekend – and we might have a new-look CW team come the holidays.
After last weekend’s high and the emotional toll it took on some House players I thought they would struggle to play at their best today but I was very wrong. They played to their full potential and were clinical at turning oppotunities into 7-pointers. Yes their forwards were outstanding but having seen Kearsney contain the scoring of a few team’s with dominant packs this season already, the House result would not have been achieved without their quality attacks as well as the empowering of a number of players with licences to thrill – to see the so-called low profile players coming up with big plays is possibly more meaningful to the work of the coaching staff then when the x-factor usual suspects do it. I thought Kearsney could have played better but on the day the final score was a fair reflection of the MHS ascendency. Another difference maker to the overall result is depth. MHS clearly has it this season, while KC doesn’t.
Westville 1st Rugby beat Hilton College 59-14
Westville U16A bt Hilton 61-12,
Got all my score predictions right aka perfect with the wins just not the scorelines :-)
@kcob: I think KC would have been given points with or without the players mentioned.
@McCulleys Workshop: huh?
@kcob: my response is “with or without you” U2
@kcob: Sounds like the school holidays are just in time. Doesn’t help KC and House, your season has 1 week left?
College have a massive run in, Westville next weekend, the July break, then Glenwood, PBHS, Affies and GCB.
@Gungets Tuft: Tedder MCL strain but may be ok. Dixon rolled ankle at warmup before game; looks nasty. Roberts from mhs concussed!
@kcob: Eeisch, 2 CW players there, another hurt at Glenwood. How do Dixon and TT’s injuries look?
Mayday, Mayday!!! The MHS pack decimated the Kearsney pack. I think Kearsney had 5% possession in the first half. The MHS structure just too good. Dixon rolled his ankle in warm up; Tedder off with MCL right knee 20minutes into game. A prop at lock, a prop at hooker, a scrummy at 10…eeeish! They smashed us!
@Far Meadows: Star, how cold is your case from Buffel
Big surprise at Kearsney , 45-7 to House .
I thought that House were slight favourites going into this match , the scoreline is quite a shock.
Glenwood 67 – Northwood 27, heard Glenwood had 50 at half time. Must have taken the foot off the gas….Joubert and Tredoux did not play…
Carnage at Kearsney. House 45, KC 7.
College 1st 52, DHS 15
2nds vs Port Natal 34 – 21 I think
Waterkloof 54 Eldo 22. Eldo het baie goed gespeel, sagte driee op kritiese tye afgestaan. Wedstryd in goeie gees gespeel, toeskouers baie beleeft, geen moeilikhied. Waterkloof te sterk op die einde met goeie hardloop rugby. Dankie Eldos vir goeie rugby en lekker gees!!!!
@Gungets Tuft: The U14A score was 15-12 to College. My Bad.
@Gungets Tuft: U15A DHS 26 College 12
not even one school game in the western cape today we have the whole family here and nowere to watch man where is this bondedag looks like the only rugby for the long weekend even nothing on youf day
College vs DHS Rugby
U14A 17-10
U16B 33-0
U16A 32-0
Hockey
U14A 8-0
U16A 3-0
3rds vs 2nds 2-1
@GCollege86: Yeah Grant said you guys were on the grand stand, it was quite packed, so I couldn’t come up.
The new opposition stand looks great and the flood lights as well, gonna be enjoyable watching the boys there.
MikeSt-wonder wat het met Jeugland gebeur die laaste paar jare? In die 90’s en vroee 2000’s was hulle een van die sterkste atletiek skole in die land en hul rugby was tops en EG Jansen se rugby games teen Jeugland was altyd kliphard. Ek neem aan Kempton Park het weer begin die leisels oorneem in daai geweste.
@Playa: Not sure but they rival Glenwood, Westville and College in numbers. Probably 1100 – 1200.
Most surprising is the hockey. Large Asian contingent at DHS, given that India and Pakistan are both right up there in the world, would have expected more. 5 years ago DHS was top in hockey, it’s just slipped away.
@Ludz: Thanks I will. Rudi and I saw you walking past the grand stand last night.
@GCollege86: Tian was brilliant last night along with the no.7. A couple of good runs and his try was pure brilliance. Tell the young man I said great game
Sorry Final Score EG Jansen 2des 52 – Jeugland 1stes 12
@Gungets Tuft: With the top-ups coming from the Afrikaans medium that makes 17 rugger and 13 hockey games – at least 11 rugger and 6 hockey teams having a lekka long weekend
Baie geluk Jeugland met julle onner 16 A spannetjie darem een wen vir die dag
EG Jansen 2des 21 Jeugland 1stes 0 na 15 minute……….
EG Jansen 0/14A 58 Jeugland O/14A 0 game gestop na 15 min in 2de helfte.
EG Jansen 3des 29 Jeugland 2des 22
Jeugland O/16A ontrek teen A span gee punte
Jeugland O/15A ontrek teen A span gee punte
EG Jansen O/15A 70 teen Jeugland O/16B 3
EG Jansen O/15B 25 teen Jeugland O/15A 15
EG Jansen O16C 12 Jeugland O16A 22
@Gungets Tuft: How many boys are there at DHS?
12 rugby matches (offsets below 1sts/ 2nds and the A&B games), 6 hockey vs DHS (offsets in all except 1sts and A teams). Eeisch
Why 7 Grens players though? Yes they good but not wow or not so good that they should have 7 players. Selborne and Dale should dominate.
@Skoorsteen: Het jy miskien die uitslae van die hokkiewedstryde van gister asb.
@Knight_CHS07: I have always rated him. He deserves his place in the CW side. Even through things were not going Grens’s way, he kept on attacking and trying to make something out of nothing. He kept the defender busy around the fringes and his try was well deserved, seeing that he ran, kicked, follow-up and scored the try.
@GCollege86: That Grens no.9 is something special i tell you. He didn’t play as well as he did against Queens’ though but he did enough to cause Selborne problems at times. I think he scored a try in the corner
@beet Hi there, just wanted to apologise for some false information that I gave you at the beginning of the week. Primrose are actually hosting Wynberg’s 2nd XV. The first side are taking a break along with the rest of the Southern Suburbs teams before their big derby games next weekend.
@kosie – het so gedink…….ek trek maar net jou been.
@Hanswors: Hansie, jy sukkel nou. Ek hoor die KGB (kampus en grond beheer) is opdrag gegee dat geen vloeistof van ‘n medisinale aard die gronde mag betree nie. Dus moet dit maar buite gebruik word.
@Knight_CHS07: What I have heard is that 7 Grens (no. 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 13brink), 6 Selborne (2tango, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12) and 6 Dale (1, 7, 14khuze, winnaar, ?, ?) boys made the side.The other 3 boys I assume comes from QC. Jerry is in the team, but not to sure about the other 2. The other 2 boys might be from other schools.
@kosie @babbelas – as my planne uitwerk is ek more daar by Eldo’s vir die rugby.
Ek het verneem dat dit lekker gaan daar langs die veld onder die gezibo’s dink julle ons sal ietsie kan gebruik daar?
@GCollege86: The Grens u16 no12 was my brilliant…CHS08 i told you mate .
7 Grens boytjies??? and not even one CHS boy? If that is the case then, it must be a record for Grens, in fact for any Border co-ed school to have more players in the CW side than the big three (Dale, Selborne and Queen’s).
@kosie: Well he swapped one green jersey for another, maybe another green one in the future….who knows…
@Knight_CHS07: Agree with you. The Grens u16 flyhalf, no.12 and no.13 impressed me a lot.
The CW side has been announced but not yet signed off by Border. I think the side is made up of 7 Grens, 6 Selborne, 6 Dale and 3 QC boys.
AC side still needs to be reduced from 25 to 22. Looks like it will only be announced after the 22nd of June. If I hear anything, I will let you know.
@Grasshopper: Yes ito rugby we get some tough opposition in PTA. Athletics, as with all sport barring surfing, is also high on the agenda for the school and we regularly produce some really good athletes.
I am a keen follower of KZN school rugby as I was schooled in KZN. I still remember fondly the rivalries as a kid. The rivalries are slightly different up North. I still see one of the ex Eldo Glenwood kids when he visits his parents up north. He pops in at the school to say hi and support his old mates.
@GCollege86: Your son was brilliant last night, a lot of of pace! These kids are unbelievable my word! Dale has good a very good team but I think the Baboona will be too much for them!
@kosie: Thanks Kosie. I have not had the privilege to visit Eldoraigne yet, but heard only good things too. I hear they are a great athletics school. Athletics was my real expertise at school, especially discus so particularly keen on that. You have some tough opposition up that end of the country…..Garsies, Affies etc.
@Grasshopper: Nice story. Maybe you should be a bit more circumspect. Even the art kids are imports! Nogal DRC! Seems distance is no problem.
Grassy, on a serious note. Glenwood has always produced good members of society in all spheres of life. I think some people are just plain jealous! I was impressed when we visited Glenwood in 2012 in the inaugural Bizsport fixture. Just a pity we could not play your A team on the day as they were at Wildeklawer.
Off topic, another indication that Glenwood is not just a rugga school and they do good in all spheres of school life; http://www.glenwoodhighschool.co.za/glenwood-boys-art-display-kznsa
@GCollege86: It was physical indeed. Watching the forwards dominate yesterday reminded me of the Selborne 2007 1st XV…now those guys were PHYSICAL .
Your son played very well, he scored one/two tries i think…right? The Grens team of the day yesterday for me was their u16A…wow i was impressed on they gave Selborne a good run.
Any idea when the Border CW and AC teams will be announced?
@Knight_CHS07: Sorry I got it wrong. The score was 63-22 I typed the scores from the messages i sent a friend of mine. Forgot to put Grens’s last two tries in.
Must agree with you that the Selborne forwards made the backlines job much easier by giving them front foot ball to work with. It was a very physical but clean game. My son woke up this morning with a lot of bumps and broozes all over his body.Always nice to see that rugby is the winner after a tough derby between old rivals. Next week the score is forgotten and they teammates in the CW and AC teams.
@beet: The Selborne vs Grens score is wrong…the game ended 63-22 to Selborne
@GCollege86: What a game! It’s always good to see a team doing the basics RIGHT! I take my hat off to Grens, but i think last night…they could’nt get the basics right.
I do agree with you sir, these boys (Selborne 1st XV) is special. Its amazing how well they gel together…as if they’ve been playing together for years.
@CHS08: I know Selborne has an explosive backline(Steyn, Dunjana, Brits etc…), but from last night’s game…i think the forwards did extremely well. The front row was just superb and on point.
Well done to both teams
@CHS08: It is a special bunch of boys. Not only on the field but off the field as well. As long as they stay humble, keep their feet on the ground and enjoy the rugby, they will keep on playing good rugby . 8 grade 11’s in the starting line-up last night and few warming the bench, so still a young team. I think whats keeping the 1st’s playing good quality rugby is that Selborne has a good 2nd team as well, so the 1st team boys has to perform week after week to keep their places in the team. I do think next weeks derby against Dale will be one of the toughest this season.
Good Lord this Selborne 1st team is absolutely sublime!!! I watched them again tonight. The Selborne flyhalf Morgan Steyn wow if that boy doesn’t make SA Schools then I’ll know players aren’t chosen on merit. He was majestic. The Selborne team has put more than 50 points past all the teams they’ve played against in the Border Region. They 1st humiliated Stirling 85-0. Embarrased Queens at the Rec 58-11. Then humbled my old school at our own turf 74-10. They then ran riot against Port Rex 92 0. And now they just humiliated the Grens “dream team” 63-22 yho!
Sien Garsies het die onderspit gedelf in die hokkie. Is daar goeie hokkie spelers in die Kaap?
Selborne vs Grens
1st: 63 – 10
u16: 43 – 21
u15: 48 – 10
u14: 69 – 0
Rugbyman. Is julle nuwe imports se visums al geclear vir die Beeld trofee se uitspeel wedstryde?
WAT DINK JULLE MANNE VAN SO N TOERNOOI SOOS WAT ONS DALK WIL BEGIN BEPLAN VIR VOLGENDE JAAR.
Die Tuks reeks is besig om volgens my af gewater te raak en dis dalk tyd om iets anders aan die gang te sit.
My gedagte is n top 8 kompetise met die volgende Gauteng Skole VIR ALLE OUDERDOMME.
1. EG Jansen
2. Affies
3. Waterkloof
4. Garsfontein
5. Monument
6. Middelburg
7. Menlopark
8. HTS Middelburg
Speel in 2 pools dus 3 games en dan semi en finaal.
Ons moet dit die moeite werd maak vir almal en dalk kyk na n prys geld van so R 100k vir die skool wat wen.
@Van Mann: Stem heeltemal saam met jou en ek haal my hoed af vir Marais Viljoen.
Net jammer in die Valke streek kan skole maak soos hulle.
2de Valke Skole liga span wat die trick trek.
Anker wat die 2de grootste skool in die Valke streek is en nou Jeugland.
@MikeSt: Mike dit is nie reg as skole so onttrek nie. Hulle kan nie weg hardloop van hulle responsibilities af nie. As jy ‘n skool is moet jy doen waarvoor jy inskryf en nie maak soos jy wil nie. Jy het nogsteeds ‘n responsibility teenoor die hele skole gemeenskap. Kyk maar na Marais Viljoen, ons het ‘n paar groot pakslae gevat maar ons hardloop nie weg nie. Volgende keer sal dit weer beter gaan. In vroee 2000 die maris Beeld trofee gewen het het hulle ook groot pakslae uitgedeel. Jy moet kan uitdeel en ontvang
@Van Mann: Dis Mike se skuld. Hy het my opgesweep vandag
@Speartackle: Spear moenie worrie nie ou, life goes on, ek het vrede met dit gemaak paar maande terug, het al self paar grappies gemaak oor haar. Ons almal gaan daardie roete gaan
Beet jy kan die EGJ game maar ook kanselleer aangesien ons eerste span nie gaan speel teen Jeugland nie.
@Van Mann: My spirit is nou geblus ou Mann. Skies ek voel nou bitter shit.
Sjoeeeeeeeee.
Lekker gedoeks nou wow
Ek tuur nou uit my hotelvenster en wat n paradys hier reg voor my.
Dit voel soos n sprokie
Wag laat ek klaarmaak. Lang dag voor. Moet nog gou Sao Paulo toe ook.
@Speartackle: No problem, jy het mos nie geweet nie, ek is darem nie so over sensitief nie, vat dit in die gees van ons manne op die blog, ons almal go maar almal. Al stem almal nie saam mete mekaar nie bly dit nog ‘n moer lekker blog om met pelle te deel
@Johan Beyers: Onderwerp verander se jy
Wie jy ookal is sterkte in jou wandelinge………………..
en so van skoor soek gepraat………
Krugersdorp Blonde in a pub with two guys.
Barman looks at them, expecting their orders.
First man: “Johnnie Walker, single.”
Second man: “Jack Daniels, single.” So the barman gestures the blond.
She replies: “Katryn van der Merwe, divorced.”
@MikeSt: Nee Mike moenie nou die onderwerp wil verander en skoor soek. Ek het gese JY moet met daai 2 skollies praat want geen ordentlike mens kan nie. Kom nou. Skryf vir hul nog gedigte.
@Van Mann: Eks jammer ek het daai onsensitiewe ding gese.
@Speartackle: Ongelukkig is my vrou 4 maande terug oorlede aan kanker so dit sal nie werk nie. Dit lyk my julle manne aan die Wes Rand dink as julle ‘n ereksie kry tel dit as personal growth
@Johan Beyers: Ek glo en vertrou jou stelling van
Johan Beyers
on 12 June, 2014 at 12:56 said:
@MikeSt: Praat jy maar met hulle want geen ordentlike mens kan met hulle praat.
was nie gemik op my familie nie.
@MikeSt: Het jy nog n gedig vir ons asb?
@MikeSt: Ek hou jou dop. Gedra jou die keer asb.
En in stilte wag EG Jansen op Monnas en Garsfontein……………..
@Van Mann: Eks bly jy erken nou die Wesrand het koopkrag. Die finansiele reus van Gauteng. Pasop of ons koop sommer jou vrou ook.
@Speartackle: Garsies en Glenwood koop slegs spelers, lyk my Monnas koop spelers en games – easy ones – om hoog op log te bly
@Proppie: Hulle werk seker vir ‘n slag – moet geld insamel om hulle skuld te betaal
@Van Mann: Ons speel teen wie teen ons opdraf Ou Mannetjie. Ons praat op gras nie op n rekenaarskerm. Wen of verloor ou maat dit maak nie saak maar jy sal weet jy was in n game….jaar na jaar………wanneer laas het julle Monnas gewen?
@Van Mann: Waar is daai Waterkloof pelle van jou. Tornado en Duppie. Hulle bekke is lekker stil noudat hulle nie hul bets kan betaal nie. Vir wie skree jy nou Waterkloof of Gapsie. Maak op jou mind en stick dan.
Waar wat hulle se skultbult.
@Speartackle: Sien jy is baie uitgesproke, maar duidelik is Monnas uit gerus. Het maar 15% moeilike opposisie gespeel die jaar, Ander was almal makliker skole. Rus maar nog so bietjie want julle gaan die nodig he in Beeld trofee. En met die maklike skole het julle 5de gekom in Tuks reeks en het ook verloor teen Kempton (no 29 op log). Gebruik dan maar eerder Saterdag om te oefen.
@Van Mann: Hoe laat speel julle?
KOm ons ruil dan om
Speel Garsies 11 uur en julle 2 uur
Is jy game? Van Mannetjie?
@star: underestimate them at your peril. Hilton are a proud school and if they have Blewitt back, they will be competitive . Hansa in a bottle it is. I think shared over a braai will be world class. Good luck on Saturday but then again you can’t lose.
@Speartackle: Kloof speel teen Eldoraign maar hopelik kry ons julle in beeld trofee. Garsies sal ook oor Monnas loop so moenie groot bek wees nie
@Van Mann: Het julle n game?
Wat van Monnas speel julle gou11 uur en Garsies 2 uur?
Nou dat Garsies en Monnas nie speel die naweek, hoekom speel hulle nie teen mekaar. Monnas speel mos net swakker skole sodat hulle in top 10 kan bly. Garsies sal mos wys of Monnas verdien om in top tien te wees
@Speartackle: Sorry Spiese maar Barrel Inn hier in die weste is ‘n lekker plek. Ou mike se gedig sal staande toegejuig word en die freebies sal sy keel lekker nathou die heel aand. Sal ons die lounge boek. ‘n Aand van poesie en sang.
@MikeSt: Nee man.
Cowboys don’t cry………….specially not in front of their horses
@Buffel- Jules’s missus has converted me to Hansa but they must be in the bottle. (so practice your deadlift) . I am actually quite surprised how Hilton has fallen off the bus so to speak. First I had to watch them get well beaten by College( on national TV nogal) and then they lose to GW by 60 on the hallowed turf that is Gillies. All the talk now is how Westville just have to pitch at Hilton to post a commanding win. There is a lot of pride and tradition in that white jersey and any school would be foolish to take them for granted.
Gaan nou eers my wonde lek en dalk van my tafel af srping in n poging tot selfmoord.
Tot later dan
@Speartackle: My poetiese denke is heeltemal weg noudat ek as banaal onordentlik beskryf word. Voel nou soos Stevie Wonder sonder hande
@MikeSt: Skoonma se sy hou van jou humor. Sy vra of jy nie nog so gediggie of 2 het nie?
@MikeSt: Kry daai Oosranders bymekaar dan hou ons n lekker Blogger party daar by die Pomona Spur.
Dink net as die Oosrand, Wesrand, Pta Wes en Pta Oos saam kuier in n holistiese milieu.
@Johan Beyers: Poepol.
@MikeSt: Praat jy nou so uit my kop uit. Wou vra wat die banaal meen.
@Johan Beyers: Mooi so Sakkie Eiers, se vir Mike.
@Johan Beyers: Dan is ek seker nie ordentlik nie………………….
@MikeSt: Praat jy maar met hulle want geen ordentlike mens kan met hulle praat.
@Johan Beyers: Banaal se jy Johan Solank jy daai woord gebruik as jy hulle vertel is dit fine Hulle sal dink dis n slim woord vir cool.
@MikeSt: Nee Mike. Onthou hierdie is 2 palookas wat nerens in die samelewing inpas. Wat sal jou familie dink as hulle weet jy raak so banaal hier?
@MikeSt: Moer my om met ‘n veertjie. Eugene Merais se gat. Eugene Terreblance se gat ook. Jy is ‘n poet.
@Johan Beyers: Ontlokking Johan Ontlokking Moet so bietjie nonsens praat tussen al die ernstige dinge
@Speartackle: Nee wat spiesie was nog nooit so onder die prop dat ek op my stoel wou drop nie. Kan ook nie kinky in daai storie kry nie.
@MikeSt: Ag nee Mike man, ek het gedink jy is n rugbyman, nou daal jy hier tot in die varkhok saam met hierdie 2 nikswerds
@Speartackle:
A Wesrand Love Poem
Of Course I Love You Bokkie
I Only Smaak You Dik
You Cook And Clean And Iron My Shirts
And Look After Me Wen I’m Sick
So Your Bum Is Only Big Hey
But I Don’t Mind A Bit Of Flab
It Means That When I’m Lekker Jags
There’s Somethin There To Grab
So Your Belly Isn’t Flat No More
I Tell You, I Don’t Care
So Long As When I Druk You
I Can Get My Arms Round There
No Stukkie Who Is Your Age
Has Nice Round Perky Breasts
They Just Gave In To Gravity
But I Know You Did Yor Best
I’m Not Tuning Kak Now
I Never Tell You Lies
But I Think It’s Lank Sexy
That You’ve Got Dimples On Your Thighs
I Swear On My Ouma’s Grave Now
The Moment That We Met
I Said To All My Chinas
“Now That’s A Lekker Slet”
So No Matter Wot You Look Like
I’ll Always Love You Dear
Now Shut Up While The Rugby’s On
And Fetch Me Another Beer!
@Proppie: Jy sal verbaas wees….daai Oosranders is kinky goed hoor.
@Speartackle: Dink At se berading gaan nie meer so toepaslik wees na sy Extravaganza nie. Hy mag dalk oorskakel na seksuele berading toe.
@MikeSt: Gedog met jou spelling kan jy nie veel eerbare jobs doen nie. Wil jy skoonma kontrakteer. Maar jy pull nie ‘n vinnige een soos SARFU met Fransiena gedoen het nie. Sy is ‘n genuine dame.
@MikeSt: Jy moenie betrokke raak by die strontpraters nie. Hulle gaan jou afvat….veral hierdie Proppie.
Ek stel voor jy maak ook n afspraak met AT sodat hy jou ook kan beraad.
@Speartackle: Jacuzzis net as jy in die bad poep. Kon nog nooit julle grand mense verstaan nie. Jy skuit nie op ‘n stoel nie, jy gebruik die troon. Nou hoekom wil julle vry in ‘n bad. Boonop die seep maak vastrap net soveel moeiliker.
@Speartackle: Ek weet nie jy sal maar dei Springs en Brakpan manne met vra. Ek pimp nie daar nie
@Proppie: Is daar jacuzzis?
@Proppie: Solank daar RESPEK is soos Dunlop julle ouens tereg gewys het.
Hierdie alewige disrespek maak my hoogs Bekommerd
@Speartackle: Swaaier klub = parkie in Tuine?
Mike ST. Ek het EGJ se tweedes by Tuks finAal gesien. Hulle het ‘n baie goeie tweede span. Hulle kan Jeugland se eerstes aanvat. Ander ding is Jeugland sal nog steeds punte afstaan in die liga dan..
@Speartackle: Ek maak nie uit van die groot skole se games nie. Maar moet se ons laaities jol hul harte uit en slaan dan garage paarties daai aand. Simpel lewe = gelukkige laaities.
@MikeSt: Is daai swaaier klub nog oop daar in Brakpan Noord?
@Proppie: Ja maar ek dink ook dat Jeugland en Affies dalk meer van n match kan wees.
@Speartackle: maar dit is mos ……….
@MikeSt: OK OK nou kop ek so Jeugland in Pretoria is Garsfontein. Hulle wou ook mos he dat van Affies se spanne moes teen laer spanne speel. Die slang se kop moet afgetrap word voordat al die games gecancel word.
@Proppie: Daai engelse poging van hom het ook meer na een of ander saketransaksie geklink
@Proppie: pROP THX
Geen betaal nie man hulle wil voorskryf dat hulle 1stes (Jeugland) slegs teen EGJ sal speel as ons ons 2des speel teen hulle 1stes
@MikeSt: Mikie jou Engels so kak soos my maniere. Skryf tog die Taal lat ons ook kan uitmaak wat jy wil se. Wie moet vir wie waarvoor betaal voordat hulle mag speel? Klink soos ‘n Teasers storie vir my.
Wynberg 2nds are playing Primrose 1sts this coming weekend.
@jakes: Yes jakes the sorry about this they want to demand that they will only play if we pay our 2nd side against their 1st side.
@Buffel and @Grasshopper my sincerest sympathy with the passing of your loved ones. In these trying times we can get a lot of encouragement from our memories of the loved ones. May the memories be good one’s.
@Buffel, this weekend I will be joining you is supporting the alma mater! Had it not been for a National Serviceman, I would be shouting for the opposition.
@Gungets Tuft: hahaha! Well Glenwood has had a banana skin for the past 3 years, George Campbell, Westville ( ) and Northwood….but trends are there to be broken….
@Grasshopper: They are taking bets on the results on Saturday, my father in law will be holding the cash …
@star: In the end it is an age old game being played between mates. Going to be interesting the outcome but afterwards they will shake hands and have a coke together. As far as my preference-any amber liquid will do – and yours?
MikeST..2nd school that cancels against EG Jansen. So sad, that is why they have to re consider the Falcons macro schools set up in the Beeld trophy. Jeugland now also cancelled their games but in reality they had no chance. I had a good suspicion this would happen. Good idea that EG Jansen and Garsfontein, the two leading teams in the Noordvaal, can actually now play in a friendly seeing both are not playing Saturday?
From my side, my condolences to Buffel and Grasshopper with the passing of your dads. Remember the good times is all I can say!
I trust that your children knew their granddads. My children never had the privilege of having and knowing a granddad.
Thanks all, mine and Buffels dad are probably enjoying a pint now and chatting about schoolboy rugga…hahah
@ Buffel@Grassy- Condolences to you and your families. Our hearts and prayers are with you at this time. It was very evident from this blog that your respective relationships were very strong and it is that strength that will carry you at this time.
@ Buffel- name your brand and honestly if K beat House then you thoroughly deserve it. I will be at Hilton but I think they have moved the times forward so might be back in town to catch the winning try by Roberts Honestly the clash of the half backs will be epic and whoever wins that battle will win the war.
To Grassy and Buffel, my sincere condolences on your respective losses.
Although it is very tough for those left behind, take comfort in knowing that they are in a good place.
To all my fellow bloggers , thanks for all messages of condolence and your support. Hopper, 63 is so young . My heart go’s out to you and your loved one’s. Your Dad was my brother’s generation with Mike finishing in ’71 at Kearsney. Keep strong and hope to meet one day.
Dad was a staunch College Old Boy and tried his utmost to get Mike into College but the laws of the time prohibited him from being accepted. The natural progression would have had me following in Mike’s footsteps but that is history and I am very loyal to Kearsney as one should be but there is a close bond with College. Lala gahle Baba.
To Buffel & Hopper, my most heartfelt condolences to you both and your respective families. If your blogging characters are anything to go by, I am sure you will pull through this difficult time just fine. Alihlanga lingehlanga!
Thanks all again! I missed the last week of blogging but back again in full force. I’m sure some were relieved I was away for a bit…..Roger
Grasshopper, Buffel my sincere condolences on your loss. May you have the strength from Above to carry on. You are ion our prayers.
My thoughts and prayers are with those who lost loved ones!
@Grasshopper: Sincere condolences to you and the family, you will find solace in all the good memories and remember, your dad will continue to live on as long as you and the family think and speak about him.
@Buffel: Sincere condolences to you and the family.
@Grasshopper: @Buffel: My sincere condolenses to yourself and your families. May the Lord carry them softly in his arms to heaven. A place where no pain is felt. Will knak a cold one on you and the families tonight.
Thanks all, what was worse was he was only 63! Use Kearsney’s motto ‘Carpe Diem’ and enjoy every minute you have with your family, life is too short…
@Buffel: @Grasshopper:
Hi Buffel and Grasshopper
Condolences you and your families.
I know both of you spoke proudly your fathers as they played big roles in your lives.
@CHS08: The Cravenweek and Grant Khomo side is known but is not official yet as the team has not been signed off by Border exec. The boys that did not make the CW side had a practice with the academy side past Sunday. After the practice they reduced the academy side to 25 I think. The next practice will only take place on the 22nd of June where after the academy side will be announced. Dont know if by then the CW and GK side will be signed off or will Border wait for all the teams to be finalised. Last year boys only heard a week before they left for academy week who made the team and who not. One of the Border official came to the parents on Sunday requesting that we urgently need to look for sponsors. A parent explained to him that it is just logic that parents wont look for sponsors if they don’t know if their kids made the side or not. He did not understand what the issue was. We have good and passionate coaches that are really trying their best but to deal with Border Rugby is just another thing. . Who knows, we might all be supprised to see the Border team soon, but as QC86 said we might only see it in October.
@Grasshooper: I’m so sorry to hear about your pops sir!
Condolences to you and your family. College is proud to have had your father as a son.
@Grasshopper: Eeisch, sorry boet. Sterkte. And College play DHS this weekend, kharmic connection on the touchline daarso … Might hear quiet calls from the touchline come Saturday.
In 1945, Buffel’s dad’s year, College lost to DHS on Goldstones and drew the away game at DHS.
@Buffel: Buffel, same to you my dear friend.
@Grasshopper: My condolences to you and your family
@Buffel: sorry to hear that. Weirdly my dad passed away on Tuesday too after a long battle with heart disease and stroke. It’s a tough time but hang in there. He was a proud DHS old boy. RIP dad, a legend!
@Buffel: Sorry to hear about your dad. There is a real sense of loss in the College community about the passing of that era. I don’t know if you got to go to the veterans dinner or any of the vets functions this year, but it is, naturally but sadly, a decline team of fiercely proud College boys. My father-in-law (died 20 years ago) and his brother were that era. Your dad gets a mention in Jimeloyo, captain and centre, playing outside a certain RN McGlew, older brother of Jackie who played in 1947.
Hamba Kahle to your dad, your proud mails about your dad clearly show the love and respect between you, I wish you well over this time.
@MikeSt: Rugbyman is bloot stil omdat hy in die jagveld is en my selfoon opvangs is baie swak hier… Ek hoop rerig ons en EG se paadjies kruis in die Beeld uitspele… sal n goeie game wees… ek gaan nou n kudu soek…
@Gungets Tuft: One thing- not good for your nuts. Cancer is a the concern so you are playing with fire when taking performance enhancing drugs. A good career lasts 12 to 14 years- your life 5 times that, so weigh up your options when looking for a kwik fix.
On a more sombre note-my Dad left us on Tuesday morning after a long battle with the dreaded disease. He lived a full life and was very proud of his College connection and what the school means to so many. RIP Dad.
@Jimbo: Question. I thought steroids “just” shortened recovery time, therefore allowing you to work harder, get stronger quicker?
A pre-pubescent boy would surely only benefit from a growth hormone that could give him growth spurt.
Experts – is my thinking wrong here?
On paper MHS should be far too strong for KC but its the KC Founders’ Day and the team does punch above it’s weight. Should be a cracker. On the steroids issue a clued-up rugby man told me that if a pre-pubescent boy takes roids he is likely to end up to 20 kg heavier and substantially taller than he would otherwise have been. If true, the lasting benefit on the rugby field (not health-wise) would be immense and last a career. I’m afraid that you only have to look at the monsters playing in the current Junior Champs to realise the truth in this. Go to the beach and you will see that the average kid is no bigger than we were in our day whereas many rugby players one year out of school look like they come from another planet. Cheats should be banned for life.
When the hell is Border Schools releasing the Border Craven Week, Academy and Grant Khomo week?
@Tjoppa: Yes i know about the testing at national weeks. My eldest were tested twice at Cravenweek and my youngest last year at Grant Khomo.
Just think that if only testing there the pool of guys being exposed to testing is very very small.
@MikeSt: I do agree but also do not. Most of the schoolboy testing are done at Craven Week where SARU “officials” will identify possible culprits. Thereby disqualifying the “performers that cheat”. But due to cost and school’s participation 99% get away with this.
Then secondly when high profile school players like Johan Goosen get caught the penalties is so light it does not stop anybody. Rugby at all levels is so performance orientated that only the unlucky few do get caught.
@Redblack White: I know for a fact that this system is in use at primary schools level at the Bulls. High School I have no idea. But unfortunately 99% of the “cheats” happen at an early age. And here some of our black guys can help. When investigating the reasons why “rural” people do not always register their children immediately at birth was/is 1) The parents wanted to make sure their child survives their first year or two, where the highest mortality rate is experienced in rural areas, before registering or (2) the fact that registration of children is difficult due to infrastructure problems. But fortunately with hospital births increasing at a rapid rate both these issues should become less of a problem. Just my two cents.
@Playa: I wish I had said that …. the end quote is brilliant .. “And it’s not that rugby is better off without them, but rather they are better off without rugby and the pressures that come with being a rugby player.”
@LineBreak: Thats one of the things i don’t understand as every year prior to the big tournaments Kearsney and Wildeklawer parents sign consent forms for drug testing.
This has been the case since my eldest played in Wildeklawer / Kearsney since 2008.
Not one drug test has as far as my knowledge is concerned been carried out at both of these tournaments.
I do realize its an expensive exercise but surely SARU with its Boksmart initiative can allocate some funds to have testing done at the festivals even if its limited.
Otherwise seeing that rugby is a huge revenue earner for schools and a massive marketing tool why not force schools to do a nr of tests every year by an independent medical Doctor as a pre-qualify to play in tournaments.
@Rugbyman: wonder hoekom is Rugbyman so stil vandag…..
dalk omdat ek hom gevra vroeer het vir n friendly…..
Wil seker nie 2 keer die jaar teen EGJ verloor nie
@Playa: Excellent perspective, thanks for that.
Maybe with that in mind, we need the schools / unions to exercise similar education with regards to the effects / consequences of using PEDs .. much the same as our entire nation is educated wrt practising safe sex.
@beet: Maybe it’s time we allocate budgets to across the board drug tests at the expense of 1 or 2 scholarships per school, it would certainly benefit the whole fraternity that way. All we ever hear is that it’s too expensive to test everyone – but there is always a little extra in the coffers to recruit a special player.
All I am saying to any Glenwood 1st team players reading this….Northwood = banana skin! Remember the result a few years ago. Don’t go into this game lightly….
Star ,star come out wherever you are . This is it. I am sure you will be at the Hilton fixture but please keep an eye on the MHS/KC game. A whole case is riding on it and the trifecta. Very close to call and not making any predictions. We are very weary of the MHS boys as they play as a team. A very good one.
@Playa: Good post.
I think the House / KC game has the potential to be the game of the weekend and might be a lot closer than many might think. Yes, House are a class team, and if they play at full ball they will probably get the win. I just would not take the KC guys lightly – they are a tough cookie…. make no mistake….
@beet: Perhaps we need to apply some football logic in schools rugby. Each player must be registered with the provincial RU and cannot play for his school (or adopted school) without his registration card. Pre-requisite for a registration card is proper age verification. That way the system will put pressure on the potential cheats and the unsuspecting school / coach will be off the hook and also not tempted to “knyp die kat in die donker” so to speak……
@umbiloburger: I 100% agree and I’m glad you brought the card thing up as well because that does need consistency.
@beet: the unfortunate reality is that as long as schools impose their own sanction, there are going to be huge anomalies for similar offenses. It is exactly the same problem you see with cards. School A will impose an automatic 2 match suspension for a stomping offense irrespective of whether a red card is issued or not, whilst school B may not even hold a hearing. There needs to be a standard norm for these offenses and the KZNRU should be driving this.
A player found guilty of using performance enhancing drugs surely MUST be suspended from all sport for a minimum period of 6 months. Again these incidents should be recorded and monitored by the KZNRU.
Age testing seems a lot more definite. If you catch someone once, he’s basically caught for life and in most cases the ban takes care of itself because he can no longer compete at school level and opportunity to get a financial reward out of rugby is eliminated immediately.
For drug testing, player A, B and C might get tested at the same time during preseason. Player A might had tried steroids for the first time that week, doesn’t plan to use it ever again but gets caught by testing, Player B might have been a regular user but happened to be clean at the time of testing and Player C starts using steroids for the rest of his rugby playing days the day after testing. So its possible that the results in no way reflect the truth of a situation. Two cheats could continue to prosper while one is found out.
I must say while watching the 2012 Olympics I was disappointed to see the number of athletes who had been welcomed back with open arms after serving drug bans of 2 years. They were allowed to compete for gold medals. I would have liked those bans to extend to exclusion from the Olympics for life as well. At least soon drug bans will be for 4 years long and not 2. So as opposed to maybe taking away 20% of a top athlete’s career, it will now be 40% and will hopeful make more of them think twice.
@Playa: Obviously……
@LineBreak: 2 weeks for cheating by knowingly taking banned substances that create an unfair physical advantage?
Shame on those boys, their schools and the authorities for allowing this to continue! Disgusting!
@GreenBlooded: Agreed!
@umbiloburger: I am sure it will come out in the next week or so. But if the rumours are true then I think what everybody wants is some consistency in how the boys are dealt with by their different schools. There is no place for cheating in schoolboy rugby albeit by lying about your age or taking banned drugs that enhance your performance.
@LineBreak: If the sanction is severe enough – the parental, peer and school pressure will disappear. Risk/Reward ratio.
Who decides the sanctions for drug cheats? If it’s the schools then we are in deep trouble. There needs to be an independant body who (1) decides which kids get tested and when and (2) decides on the sanction if they are bust. If we are leaving it to the schools then we have the fox guarding the hen house.
@LineBreak: 1 or 2 seasons is a long time nowadays, given the elasticity of rugby players. May as well be life.
I hear that an adolescent is young, naïve and driven by all sorts of pressure. My reasoning for a life ban is that, a lot of rugby players dope either in the off season, or while they’re injured (as they have no chance of being tested). All a kid will do is savour the moment, knowing they can still return and maximise while they’re out of the game in order to come back bigger and stronger…and with clean blood. Dopers don’t quit doping, they just learn to be more careful.
If an adolescent does not practice safe sex – due to whatever pressures, he will get HIV or get someone pregnant, and either way he will pay for that mistake for the rest of his life. Steroids have lifelong effects, and these kids are not ignorant of that. If they are willing to take such a risk on their lives, they should be able to face lifelong consequences of being caught. And it’s not that rugby is better off without them, but rather they are better off without rugby and the pressures that come with being a rugby player.
@Speartackle: Definitely – 2nd offence.
@Speartackle: Yep! In fact 2 life bans with no chance of parole since it’s his second offence.
I bet you asked that since he’s black, hey?
@LineBreak: I fully agree with you that consistency is what we all want. If it be one, three or life ban. Consistency.
It seems to happen everywhere from time to time. If we are to get rid of the practise we will have to do more tests at unannounced venues and games. Here I mean all levels. The schools will have to buy into this as well as the parents. We have some way to go.
@GreenBlooded: If College are at full strength….College by 30+
Westville vs Hilton (2nds)…. Forced stagger due to injuries!!!! Ville by 40
House Kearsney……. Kearsney by 5
GW vs NW……GW by 20.
@CRC: Purely rumors………. I hope.
@GreenBlooded: Mr T is playing Varsity Cup for NMMU.
We need to understand that SBR drug cheats are still boys affected by peer pressure and sometimes even parental pressure, hardly fair to give them a life ban for a poor adolescent decision. 1 or 2 seasons sure, but life is a bit OTT.
The big problem for me is the inconsistency of dealing with these issues when they arise. Recent Westville and Glenwood cases resulted in 2 week slap on the wrist, while the Kearsney boy was given a full year ban. IMHO these cases need to be dealt with at a provincial level in order to get some consistency in the sanction.
@Speartackle: nou net uit my staff meetings gekom gaan hom nou bel
@Playa: Life ban for Chillyboy as well?
@GreenBlooded: Life ban for both age and drug cheats. I include drug cheats simply because they are not only a danger to other boys, but to themselves as well.
@MikeSt: Het jy toe met Andre T gepraat?
@beet: I’m not sure on the accepted / standard age verification process at school or provincial representation level, but possibly the closer scrutiny at provincial trials due to the likely consequences / repercussions (and conversely the lack thereof at school level that allows this to continue).
@Jimbo: @Ballie: 100% gentlemen!! Age cheats and drug cheats – the only way to put a stop to it is to make the sanction so punitive that it is just not worth the risk. Siyabonga Tom (or whatever his name is) is still playing club rugby somewhere in the E Cape. He should have been banned for life. The various drug-cheats – the same thing. Some guys get 2 weeks, others get a year. It’s ridiculous. Long ban’s – at least 5 years – for drug cheats.
@burra:
Don’t see College vs DHS being close. College by 20-30 maybe more.
Hilton vs Ville – eesshhhh – Ville by 50 at least.
House vs Kearsney – House by 15 based on how they played this weekend.
GW vs NW – eesshhh – I’d like to say GW by 40+ but look what happened a few years back. Plus GW are not at ‘home’ as such.
@Rugbyman: Dalk kan jy vir ons n friendly reel vir saterdag teen julle aangesien ons alweer nie n span het om teen te speel nie.
@Jimbo: There are some rumours doing the rounds about some very prominent KZN U16 players being caught doping. Is there any truth in the rumours?
@Playa: Lol, there is no ways we are going to beat Dale.
CHS is in self-destruct mode…i don’t know what the hell is going k. At the rate those boys are playing we could find ourselves losing to Hudson in August
@Ballie: If the over-age player being caught is true it’s good news in a sense. It means that officials are still verifying ages. It would be interesting to find out why trials testing can identify an over-age player while the school’s test couldn’t
@Skoorsteen: Is daar koshuiskinders in die hokkiespan?
@Rugbyman: @BOG: Die wedstryde tussen Affies en Garsfontein is nie gekanseleer nie. Die Hokkiewedstryde vind Donderdag plaas. Bly om te sien dat alle kontak nie verbreek is nie!
@beet: Good morning, I thought I would let you know that Primrose are hosting Wynberg on 14/06/2014 so that you could add it to the fixtures list.
The annual and great fun KZN school rugby lunch is due to be held at the Salt Rock Hotel at the end of August with John Smit as guest speaker. Many of the 1st team coaches traditionally attend. I’m sure that the questions of over-age imports and steroid testing will be hot topics. It looks like Hilton is going to receive the ‘carrot’ trophy for their scoreline against Glenwood.
@Knight_CHS07: I wish I could find myself in EL for that one. It should be a cracker. Border number 1 decider (if Dale get past Cambridge that is hehehehe).
@Ballie: Hi Ballie. I couldn’t agree more. It is surely up to each school to investigate and confirm the ages of their imports. I can think of at least two KZN 1st teams fielding suspiciously over-age props. We all know that birth certificates can easily be forged or erroneously issued. Thoroughly checking their previous school records would be a good start. When one of these cheats seriously injures another player the school concerned is likely to be sued. I raised this issue with my son’s school in writing after watching a game featuring at least one such player. Overage and steroids? It’s high time this double scourge came to an abrupt halt.
@beet: Friday evening WP vs EP and SWD vs Boland. Saturday WP vs SWD and Boland vs EP. As far as I know it will be both u18 teams and the Grant Khomo teams.
What is really being done to prevent over-age players?
I hear an over-age St Charles boy (playing u16a) was uncovered at the recent Kzn U16 trials. It seems schools are willing to benefit from the points, wins and influence contributed by these cheats and then simply claim ignorance (and impunity) if found out. The authorities need to deal with this scourge and schools need to take the necessary responsibility for age varification with severe penalties for any contravention. The cheats also banned for life…. Damn sickening.
@BOG: Ek het gehoor Garsfontein het ontrek!! Hulle is blykbaar bang!!!!!
@Speartackle: Party mense sal alles vir soetkoek opeet. Hondedrolle in koolblare is blykbaar ook smaaklik!
@kosie: Ek dink jy sal dalk n paar Affies kry wat die koerante eet
@bhkgpa: Moenie alles glo wat in koerante staan nie. Volgens die koerante kan mens die maan eet!
@valke: DP de Villiers ?
@Speartackle: Sover ek weet is dit 28 Junie.
Oorspronklik was dit by Izak Steyl in van der Bijl park, maar klink my dit is dalk in Sasolburg.
@Playa: Ndipha ngomso nakanjani. CHS08 and I will be there, I haven’t seen Selborne play since the Wilderklawer.
I’ll also be at the Selborne vs Dale game …that one is to die for
@beet: Hello Beet. The St Alban’s v Menlo fixture, which was originally only for the senior teams, has now been cancelled. Also, per Jeppe’s website, the Jeppe v Monnas fixture has been postponed to 2 August due to exams…which is interesting, as their website says that they are playing Marais Viljoen on 2 Aug.
@CyndiAtRugby: parking will be a potential nightmare
@ben: Good stuff. What about Menlo vs St Albans. Is that game still on?
Hi Menlopark vs Helpmekaar 13/06/2014
From the Glenwood website:
Important Notice: Rugby vs Northwood: Saturday 14 June 2014.
Please note that due to the fact that we are preparing the fields at Glenwood for the 2014 U13 Craven Week Tournament and the U16 Girls Craven Week Tournament to be from the 29 June 2014, we will be hosting all Rugby against Northwood at Varsity Rugby Fields in Manning Rd this Saturday.
Further information re. times, parking etc will follow.
@BOG: Bog, ek is seker daar was iets in die nuus oor na-skoolse kinders of so iets, ek dink onder 21’s wat huiglik vir garsies speel Ek mag verkeerd wees, maar daar lui so klokkie
Selborne finally get a ‘competitive’ game in the Border. They should beat Grens, but it won’t be a walk in the park.
Come on Grens, do the Dalians a favour and soften up these Baboona.
@PRondersteuner: Thanks. Please send me the fixture list if you have it.
Thank you.
Some big games in KZN
Glenwood vs Northwood. GW by 30
DHS vs College. Could be close, DHS might surprise me
Hilton vs Westville. Ville by 25
KC vs MHS. Very close my bucks are on MHS to win it
Clifton vs St Charles. SCC by 20
Wanneer is die Transvaal Bondedag asse f blief ?
Kearsney founders day. The next 2 weeks will define this KC and MHS teams. We host MHS this Saturday and then finish off the 2014 season against Glenwood away. 2 huge games.
@BOG:
Oh no…..Glenwood’s banana skin?
@BOG: langnaweek en touch rugby…
O, ek merk dat die Affies vs Garsies wedstryd gekanselleer is. Waarom sou dit wees?
Bondedag in Oudtshoorn. WP, Boland, SWD en OP. Vrydag en Saterdag.