The Blue Bulls named 41 schoolboy players.
# | Blou Bulle | Posi | School | Region | Highest Level |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Phillip Orfer | Centre | Affies | Bulls | |
2 | Jurie Linde | Centre | Affies | Bulls | SA Schools |
3 | Calvonn Allisson | Flank | Affies | Bulls | Craven Week |
4 | Francois Steyn | Hooker | Affies | Bulls | SA Schools |
5 | RG Snyman | Lock | Affies | Bulls | SA Schools |
6 | Ivan van Zyl | Scrumhalf | Affies | Bulls | Craven Week |
7 | Thys van Wyk | Wing | Affies | Bulls | |
8 | Matjikinyane Molapo | Centre | Ben Vorster | Limpopo | Craven Week |
9 | Adrian Toko Maebane | Centre | Ben Vorster | Limpopo | Craven Week |
10 | Theo Maree | Scrumhalf | Ben Vorster | Limpopo | Craven Week |
11 | Mattys Basson | Prop | Boland Landbou | WP | |
12 | Attie Louw | Centre | Boland Landbou | WP | |
13 | Kurt Webster | Flyhalf | DHS | KZN | Craven Week |
14 | Hanro Liebenberg | No.8 | Drostdy | Boland | Craven Week |
15 | Impi Visser | Flank | Ermelo | Pumas | |
16 | Hyron Andrews | Lock | Garsfontein | Bulls | Craven Week |
17 | Martin Groenewald | No.8 | Grey HS | EP | Craven Week |
18 | Stephan Ebersohn | Prop | Grey HS | EP | Craven Week |
19 | Matthew Alborough | Scrumhalf | Grey HS | EP | Craven Week |
20 | Burger van Niekerk | Lock | HJS Paarl BH | WP | Craven Week |
21 | Keenan van Wyk | Wing | HJS Paarl BH | WP | |
22 | Mario Wilson | Wing | HJS Paarl BH | WP | |
23 | Denzel Hill | No.8 | Jeppe | Lions | |
24 | Vuyo Khatide | Hooker | Maritzburg College | KZN | Craven Week |
25 | Njabulo Gumede | Prop | Maritzburg College | KZN | Craven Week |
26 | Peet Schoeman | Centre | Marlow | EPCD | Craven Week |
27 | Menzi Nhkabathi | No.8 | Nelspruit | Pumas | Craven Week |
28 | Dimitrio Tieties | Centre | Noord-Kaap | Griquas | Craven Week |
29 | Warrick Gelant | Centre | Outeniqua | SWD | SA Schools |
30 | Geor Malan | Flank | Outeniqua | SWD | Craven Week |
31 | Dewald Human | Flyhalf | Outeniqua | SWD | SA Schools |
32 | Stefaan Grundlingh | Prop | Outeniqua | SWD | Craven Week |
33 | Remu Malan | Scrumhalf | Outeniqua | SWD | SA Schools |
34 | Duhan van der Merwe | Wing | Outeniqua | SWD | SA Schools |
35 | Wyatt Murphy | Flyhalf | Paarl Gim | WP | |
36 | Simon Bolze | Flyhalf | Queens | Border | Craven Week |
37 | Abongile Nontkwatane | Lock | St Albans | Bulls | SA Schools |
38 | Jason Jenkins | Lock | St Albans | Bulls | |
39 | Xander van Wyk | Prop | Waterkloof | Bulls | Craven Week |
40 | Johan van Wyk | Prop | Waterkloof | Bulls | Craven Week |
41 | Desmond Stramis | Hooker | Windhoek Gim | Namibia | Craven Week |
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@Ploeg: Maybe I am too much into the poverty alleviation thing, hence my support for what Rugbyman is doing. Had these boys stayed where they were with unemployment rates of 85% and school feeding schemes their main support structure, where would they end up? Under such circumstances it is not, as you put it, uprooting. In fact, it is rooting, as they receive top education in a better environment and if they don’t make it in rugby, they have a chance of making it in another trade of life. So comparing this to cattle trade is to my mind way off the mark. Indeed, if more top schools do the same, the quicker our country will become a better place.
@Ploegskaar: Ploegie at least the cattle you trade in is not lied to you, are going to braai them. At least when you load them on the truck they know.
@Muzi: No really, going to be unfair. Werner could not even defend him against a school boy in a liquor store. Poor man. But at least he got up and luckily his ego is so big it did not affect him at all.
@Ploegskaar: Braaivleis Sonskyn en Eersterust?
@Rugbyman: No need to move to Landbou, as he was moved from Kasselsvlei to Bellville beginning gr.9, where he has since excelled and developed. WP u16 Elite squad, WP u16 GK and WP u18 Elite squad, and “earmarked for future progression in the WP junior system already”, if you know what I mean. So, honestly, what could you really have offered in addition?
@Ploegskaar: Oh sorry ploegie… PJ is still extremely happy! He’s looking great and practices very hard! As far as the wp fullback is concerned he was contacted because he was very highly rated… he wasnt interested in moving though, so nothing further happened… u can relax and try to move him “locally” to Landbou maybe? as u reckon thats acceptable…
@Ploegskaar: @Djou: I see I have been discussed in my absence in the off season… can I be of some assistance gentlemen? I thought we were all taking a break from the blog? That only lasted for as long as it took for the bulls to announce there u/19 squad! LOL
At garsies we are hard at work getting ready for the next season… our squad looks good and Im sure we will pose good opposition to whoever comes our way in 2014… hence my absence/holiday/break from here…
I can clearly see I have been missed though? StRugbyman? I am flattered… No thanks though, I am just a commoner from Pretoria…
@vatikaki:
**Obviously not for the first team. Maybe a ‘development’ project.
Mario Wilson went to Paarl Boys’ High. Not sure what position he played… though I assume winger because he runs the 100m in around 11 seconds, same as Dewald Naude.
@RBugger: I’m sure !!
IMO WP slipped up but he gave a verbal agreement to the Sharks when he was approached at some tournament earlier during the year ( before CW).
He has kept his word (which I admire) and many can take a leaf out of his book !
@Djou: Don’t hold your breath, still waiting for him to state their motivation for contacting the current WP GK fullback from Bellville a few months ago. Like PJ Toerien, this player has been in the WP structures for a while, achieved the highest recognition available to a player of his age group provincially and nationally and will be part of the 2014 WP Elite Group. Wonder what else they could offer? BTW @Rugbyman, PJ still happy?
I will stick with cattle trade as long as the interests of these youngsters take a backseat to those of the Union and then the school, in that order. That (if?) the boys “benefit” is in any event merely a consequence of self-interest, certainly not moral obligation or philanthropy.
@Tjoppa: Distasteful, because there is no reason to uproot a youngster from his family and familiar surroundings and re-locate him to another province, if your primary motivation is to secure his services after school. Pollard and Basson were already signed at u/16 level after all, but they were allowed to complete their schooling at Gym and Boland respectively because they are obviously not soft quota targets/boys from a poor socio-economic background.
Before I get branded a hypocrite, I don’t have a problem with boys moving schools locally (Boland & Peninsula) though. In fact, I will gladly prompt, encourage, assist and facilitate when talented players want to move to specific schools that I openly favour
@BuffelsCM: Are you sure – that is blady great news He is a fantastic player – also heard we are getting one of the Grey props, think his name is Kramer but not 2 sure – Wow, wonder why Du Toit is coming to Sharks and not staying with Province – hope you are right, highly rated player that boy
@RBugger: You’ll also have Thomas Du Toit, the prop from Paarl Boys’. That guy is huge, powerful and a very dedicated rugby player
@RBugger: I think he has been capped by Fidji before – maybe I’m wrong but I think I’ve read that somewhere
@Tjoppa: Yea, you are right – not some – let’s change it to quite a lot.
@Ploeg: Ok, let’s wait on the St. Rugbyman, but at least the group above shows he was not talking nonsense. About cattle trade, I’m not sure it is the same thing. Cattle end up dead and in this case kids get a chance in life.
There is always a cause and consequence.
At the Cheetahs we will gladly take young Ackers and all the others the Bulls will cause to be disillusioned over the next couple of years.
@Muzi: It’s the professional era is not a very good answer. In fact, it is an excuse when you don’t have an answer. It’s the same as saying “it is a slow growing economy” when in fact bad policies cause an unemployment rate of 35%, or 8 million unemployed people.
@Muzi: Jeez Muzi – hahahaha, Akona against the FREAK – to be fair, Akona and his boet must rank as 2 of the bravest pro rugga players out there, they are not that big but never fail to go in at full out pace – but still, ouch
Looking at those u19 teams sheets, the talent we have coming through is mad
@Tjoppa:
I think you and Mr Werner de Beer should get in the ring and sort out your “issues”….. :mrgreen:…perhaps Xander will join you if the latter can not survive twelve rounds.
@Ploegskaar:
It’s the new professional era..it’s how we roll….
@Woltrui:
It’s going to be hard for klein Ackers to get game time…Bulls have depth in the loose forward department…It’s up to Werner and Xander to make the call.
@RBugger:
Phew…glad Bulls aren’t playing against him….Basson or Akona would get eaten for supper!
@RBugger:
Ja…the “beckham” twins….those hairstlyes though?!?! ……hope Schraam got rid of his…
Sharkies”
4.Daniel-“Beckham”
5.Johan du Toit
6.Louw
7.Jean-Luc “Beckham”
8.Schraam…..frightening.
Bulls:
4.Burger van Niekerk
5.RG Snyman
6.Geor Malan
7.Abongile Nonkontwana
8.Hanro Liebenberg
WP.
4.HP Momsen
5.JD Schikerling
6.Charlton Jonas
7.Vermuelen
8.Bothma
It’s going to be wide open….
@Muzi: Flippin mad – i watched highlightes last night and felt a bit sick Did u see how he passes the ball one handed, he is a huge freak and will no doubt be waiting to become an All Black in the near future
@RBugger:
Cheslin Kolbe better start eating more pap and vleis…add more protein shakes…have you seen how massive that Crusaders fijian wing is? 130kgs and 1.95 metres dear me…. The s**t is about get real!
@Vleis: Is this kid the real deal? Sounds like a new Lomu
@Ploegskaar @Muzi: The Sharks u19 will also have a strong pack – Du Toit, the Doops, Louw and Schramm – going to be a great u19 season
@Djou: Only some??
@Ploegskaar: Distasteful because Werner joined the trip? Or that promises to boys is not kept?
@Muzi: You would appreciate the irony of that comment But to qualify, distasteful cattle trade vs tasteful cattle trade, the latter when the player changes feedlot, but remains on the same farm
@Muzi: @Djou: Thanks Muzi. Hopefully the young Ackerman can play for the BB U/19’s in 2014. If he’s got his old mans genes (lots and lots of guts mixed with talent and rugby agression) he is a potential star. Hope he stay in Pretoria after he finish matric.
@Ploegskaar:
“That may be commendable, but still does not erase the distasteful cattle trade that happened in the first place, does it?”…….that made me chuckle a bit …thanks you made my day!
@Djou: Would not rename him St. Rugbyman from Garsfontein quite yet. Garsies assist players with contracts at other unions, or to further their studies, when the Bulls decide not to contract them. That may be commendable, but still does not erase the distasteful cattle trade that happened in the first place, does it?
@Djou: Indeed little Ackers still at school in 2014.
@Woltrui @ Muzi: Read somewhere Ackers still in grade 11 this year. He however was born something like on 30 December and will turn 18 this year. Will therefore be u.19 next year and ineligible for Craven Week and NuPower. Can play in Beeld trophy though.
@Ploegskaar: Seems Rugbyman was correct all the time: Garsies doing their own recruiting and not the Bulls as most of the current players were contracted by Lions, Cheetahs and PUK Rugby Institute.
Sorry for the strong words Rugbyman, I withdraw my allegations unconditionally. However, I am still not in agreement with the way the Bulls ruin some players’ careers.
@Woltrui:
I asked Bart Schoeman from the lions about klein Ackers as far as I know he hasn’t signed a contract with anyone.
@Ploegskaar: Ploegskaar I tend to agree with you on Tiaan Nel. The tipe of 10 we love up north. Laaitie that can dominate a game with the boot.
@Muzi. Any news where Ackerman, the Garsies no 8, is going Mr Blou Bul Beet??
@Muzi: Indeed loads of potential and talent in that group, will enjoy weighing them against the likes of Vermeulen, Bothma, Koen, Jacobs and Schickerling over the coming years.
@Vleis:
It looks like Jason Jenkins has signed a one year contract.
@Vleis:
I wouldn’t want to play against Jason,RG and Hanro liebenberg and Abongile who can slot in blind side flank…Bulls 2014 will be even bigger pack than this years group!
@Tarpeys: Yes, he’s only played about 24 games of rugby in his entire life. He used to be a hockey player. As you say though, he is very skilful, quick and large. I don’t think that your stats are accurate though, as I believe that he is north of 2m tall and 123kg.
He is a very nice guy too – he is head-boy of St Albans. It will be interesting to see how he does. He was absolutely colossal for St Alban’s – the team’s performances dropped massively when he and Abongile were missing for the last few games of the season. That said, St Alban’s don’t play the likes of Affies, GCB, etc.
I hear that the Bulls want him to lose up to 10kg so that he can play in the loose trio.
@Ploegskaar:
Damn sneaky unions….now it looks like the Bulls are the guilty ones. :mrgreen:…..Aston Fortuin is an exception.
@Woltrui: Yes I think it might be between Bolze and Webster. Both with a good opportunity. Human has had a brilliant season and the Kwaggas coach has done very well to protect him on defence but at the next level, either he will have to be able to ball carrier in the channel or become a wing or fullback.
@BOG: signing gr.11’s no longer the “early worm” but a lot less convenient to make public if it’s a player from a different region due to SARU’s ruling.
Here’s a major bolter. Jason Jenkins, St Albans lock. I saw this kid at st Stithians fest. Apparently 197cm 127 kg and runs the 100m in way under 12 seconds. He is a monster and will rattle some of the more fancied and renowned players. Word in Pretoria is that he’s the first player to be signed by the Bulls without seeing him play a single minute of rugby. He is a colossus. Many think he’s probably a future bok No7.
@Muzi: Is Immelman not still in Gr 11 , or did they just catch the worm early?
Gaan baie interresant wees om te sien wie die no 10 trui dra. Human was vanjaar ‘n absolute ster. Hy was egter onefektief teen Paarl Gim. Bolze kan dalk die verrasing wees?
Baie beindruk met die gekose groep spelers. Met Kloof se Van Wyks en Basson van Boland Landbou in die voorry, Burger Van Niekerk en RG Snyman die slotte, Allison (wie werklik eers in die derde termyn sy talent uitgestal het as no 7), Liebenberg en Abongile kan die Bulletjies een van die beste pakke in die O/19 reeks in die veld stoot. In my opinie het Affies en die Kwaggas oor die beste agterlynne in 2013 beskik. Die Bulletjies beskik in 2014 oor n kombinasie van die 2 skole se agterspelers. Met Orfer en Jurie Linde, 2 van Affies se blitsige O’18 aflosspan, gaan die Bulle ook oor een van die vinnigste agterlyne in die land beskik(die vleuels sal moet laat spaander om by daai sentertjies te bly). WP gaan beslis nie met die O/19’s weghardloop nie.
@Muzi: Yes, they did sign a few, and so did the FS. Suddenly it has now become very clear: The Lions and FS are in fact recruiting players from the WC and EC and placing them in PTA schools for future contracting
@BOG:
I agree good news Andre Tredoux signed Grey College star wing/fullback Nicolaas Immelman great signing for the Cheetahs…Sharks were after his signature!
@Muzi: They will certainly not attract Grey players with Blackberrys- only i phones or HTCs
@BOG:
I think tjoppa was right Bulls can’t afford touch screens….time to go back to blackberry phones.
Sharkies signed all the VIP players Barney and Jake the snake have the cash!
@Muzi: And I wonder whose choice it was- the BBs or the Grey players? Perhaps, against the backdrop of this year, they were advised from the inside to stay clear. Or the BBs can no longer afford FSs ?
@CharlesZA:
My only issue is how the Bulls handled Pollard’s work load he didn’t get a break at all this year….poor guy was on duty for Tukkies,Baby Boks, Vodacom Cup and CC…..played too much rugby.
I was unhappy with his positional switch to inside centre after moving back to flyhalf he took time to find his feet again hence the dodgy goal kicking ratio and the odd mistake here and there…..he’s a better player than what we witnessed in the currie cup.
Louis Fouche is a more accurate goal kicker i know FL will play it safe…Pollard is still not ready give him another year.
@Muzi: Really think Fouche will be ahead of Pollard? I would be very suprised.
What’s this gemors about Stefan Ungerer moving to PTA……
@Ploegskaar:
If I’m not mistaken about five Garsfontein players signed Lions junior contracts.
For all the moaning about the Bulls “placing” players at Garsfontein, Menlopark and Southdowns, the conversion rate from 2013 for 2014 is just one player, from Garsfontein. Maybe the recruitment is after all a schools’ initiative as opposed to a Union initiative? Just asking.
Also, if the Bulls were looking for a fly with a sound tactical kicking game, Tian Nel would have been the logical and better option. Although Murphy is versatile (can play 9 as well), Nel was the best 10 off the tea and out of hand this season in the WC, banking a few 60m penalties, 50m drop kicks and last play match winners along the way.
Overall a good net, just looking at the boys from Outeniqua and Affies.
@Grasshopper: he’s finished with school Hopper
@CharlesZA:
If Pollard stayed at WP Goosen could have signed for the Bulls….Fouche will be first choice in 2014 with Handre as back up.
@Grasshopper:
I think it’s going to be beneficial for Webster to spend two years playing Under 19 rugby…out of the four flyhalves signed he’s the one that can go far.
@RBugger:
It’s going to be wide open…WP are favourites to win the title IMHO….Bulls,Sharks,Cheetahs and Lions all have good Under 19 groups.
@Playa:
I agree with you Joshua Stander and Simon Bolze…..
Looks like Queens has become a Flyhalf factory for the Bulls
@Tjoppa:
Thanks…good players might turn up for Tukkies young guns.
Nice looking squad this – the u19 season next year is going to be exciting!
@Grasshopper: Webster is in matric this year even though he’s U17.
So Kurt Webster must have left DHS, huge loss for them and KZN. I wonder what school he is at, Garsies? Seems the Bulls got every game breaker from the good Kwaggas 2013 team…
@Muzi: TUKS came to the rescue. I think engineering.
Guess 19 year olds dont mind sitting on the bench as long as they getting paid. Not picking on these guys as it happens everywhere but dont understand how Bulls land good young FHs when Pollard is cleary going to occupy the Bulls nr 10 jersey for years. I guess all 4 big unions are pretty set at 10 except WP where I still think they need a big time 10.
Which union has signed the Joyce bro’s??
Oom Bog this is a first….no Grey College players on the list.
IMHO Bulls Under 19’s had a better squad in 2013 but it’s not a bad group loads of talent.
Geez why on earth would the Bulls sign four Number 8’s…flyhalves and scrumhalves!?!?!…..another case of stockpiling. ….a few surprises in the group most notably Wyatt Murphy but then again he does have an educated boot.
It’s obvious the Bulls have big plans with Burger van Niekerk, RG Snyman, Jurie Linde, Peet Schoeman, Duhan van der Merwe and Warrick Gelant, Hanro Liebenberg and Matthys Basson all of them will spend time with the senior side in December during preseason.
Just a bit of good news….I just found out Martin Groenewald is already running after the broken leg he suffered against Grey College.