Results – week ending 20 July 2013

SCHOOL SCHOOL NOTES
HJS Paarl BH 21 20 Paul Roos  u16A: PRG 10 HJS 9
SACS 3 55 Paarl Gim In spite of being without the likes of Bothma, Vermeulen, Schickerling & Oosthuizen, Gim showed their depth with this result
Bishops 31 10 Tygerberg The Tiere were without their 2 best players Goddard & Esterhuyzen. Read the match report here: http://www.stoopstats.co.za/
Drostdy 15 25 Wynberg
Rondebosch 20 30 Boland Landbou  After a good start to 2013, the Rondebosch are now struggling to get results.
Affies 51 20 M. College
Despatch 3 27 Die Brandwag
Grey HS 39 8 Daniel Pienaar Grey continue to prove why they are the EC no.1
Kingswood 27 37 Framesby
Marlow 22 3 St Andrews A fine result for Marlow. SAC appears to be slipping in the EC rankings
Port Rex 0 71 Queens
Selborne 13 13 Hudson Park A major surprise in this East London derby.
Nico Malan 65 6 Bablake (UK)
Jeppe 36 19 Diamantveld
Parktown 27 19 Marais Viljoen
Pretoria BH 3 13 Grey College
Monnas 43 15 Florida Beeld
HTS Middelburg 18 19 Nelspruit Beeld
Kempton Park 17 26 EG Jansen Beeld
Transvalia 34 14 Hugenote Beeld – Big Schools

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207 Comments

  1. avatar
    #207 Tjoppa

    @McCulleys Workshop: In order to meet your last sentence’s criteria I believe they must get top coaching staff and then recruiting at u/14 level. This I believe is the only sustainable solution.

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    24 July, 2013 at 19:55
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    #206 Playa

    @McCulleys Workshop: Point taken.

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    24 July, 2013 at 19:38
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    #205 McCulleys Workshop

    @McCulleys Workshop: @Playa: And I believe the St Johns Old Boys are pissed at the rugby performance, so the head and coach will be under pressure, guess what, some OB or grouping will pull their cheque book out to rent hire lease a few players, while at it, at least do so with a social conscience and no one can then criticize us because this is upliftment nogal.

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    24 July, 2013 at 19:19
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    #204 McCulleys Workshop

    @Playa: The sinister in me thinks that not just schools. But the Unions are behind some of these moves in the provinces that don’t have sufficient development program’s or a limited gene pool of PDI players. They need to feed the academy machine with sufficient players to spit out into senior level. Is is impossible for a Dale (or most others) to compete with a Bulls dangling of a carrot about potential CW inclusion or an academy entry/contract. Same could apply to the Sarks (as per P Diddy). I’m not arguing about the merits of the skill of players based on race, just the engineering thereof. I am not a believer in the Quota system in any form of life nor in any country. It is like government sponsored enterprise (the meat board etc) competing with the private sector. There are numerous studies that do not support quote systems and instead create a framework of fair play of development for all. Will talented players from all backgrounds move, yes if the carrot is sufficient – but I do believe that our rugby would be healthier if the talent pool wasn’t concentrated in so few a number of schools. It seems the gap between 1st tier sides, of which there seem to be a handful, and 2nd tier schools like ‘Westville, Wynberg, Waterkloof’ and the rest of us has widened. To what end? Glenwood get 40 points against Garsfontein, give Michaelhoise 40 points who in turn give St Johns 50 points.

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    24 July, 2013 at 19:12
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    #203 Vleis

    @Playa: Cool.

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    24 July, 2013 at 17:31
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    #202 Playa

    @Vleis: LOVE THE INPUT!!! :)
    Thanks for the ideas. I will definitely put it to good use.

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    24 July, 2013 at 14:22
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    #201 BuffelsCM

    @Tierklou: Hallo Tierklou. Is dit net die O/19A-span ? Is TJ weer reg ?

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    24 July, 2013 at 12:21
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    #200 Vleis

    @Playa: Not easy, but it is good that the process has started. The school needs an independently run/managed Dale College Foundation. The main focus of the foundation could be Dale campus resources and community development – i.e. assisting those that cannot afford to attend a great school like Dale. The rugby could be a part of both focus points – i.e. boarding facility, bursaries, etc, etc.

    Apart from asking Old Boys to donate whatever they can to the Foundation, the next step is to approach companies. The fact that Dale produces high quality individuals who are mostly POC, but is situated in an impoverished area, would be a big benefit in sourcing said company donations.

    Also, donations via deceased estates are often very fruitful. I think St John’s was bequeathed about R100m a few years ago. Just the annual income on such a large amount would fund your entire rugby scholarship programme, plus coaches, equipment, etc….without even touching sides.

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    24 July, 2013 at 12:00
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    #199 Playa

    @Vleis: A plan is now in motion to set that up from next year.Trouble is our Old Boys Union has been aslep for the last 10 years.It was easier to manage the loss of 1,2 or 3 players, but now we’re finding a situation where our A teams are filled with boys who have been playing B-D team rugby their whole school career.Scholarships have always been there for local boys with talent, but now those are being snatched in later Grades.At this point we need 4 scholarships per age group to counter ‘poachers’…even one or 2 for matrics as we’re losin players already in the 1st XV as well.A tough ask for any deep pocket.

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    24 July, 2013 at 11:34
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    #198 Vleis

    @Playa: Are there not any wealthy ex-Dalians who can set up a scholarship fund to keep the players that other schools are ‘stealing’ – especially re the gr7 to 8 transition?

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    24 July, 2013 at 11:02
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    #197 Tierklou

    Tygerberg speel vanmiddag (24/7) om 4nm teen Northcote College van New Zeeland.

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    24 July, 2013 at 10:57
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    #196 Playa

    @McCulleys Workshop: I dont disagree that the reason for such a high rate of importing is due to a need for the bolstering of teams with black players in order to meet quota requirements.That certainly is the status quo.But on the same breath, there is quite a lot of movement of white players (not as much as black of course) between schools/provinces.The abolishment of quotas would certainly eliminate the need to import players based on skin colour, but would not eliminate the need for schools to bolster their teams with better players.

    Also consider that, it has now become evident that there are players of colour that are competitive at the highest levels of schoolboy rugby, and have shown to be better than their white counterparts.Look at what happened with basketball and American football.It all began as an affirmative action exercise in the 60’s.

    Do you think trafficking would not have taken place in the 70s-80s had rugby been a professional sport in SA?As all-white as it was?
    One has to look at what happened with post-matrics in the 90s (seriously not taking a jab at MH here – it was happening throughout the country).When post matrics became frowned upon, the next best thing was to buy them young.This would have happened whether or not quotas were introduced.

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    24 July, 2013 at 10:39
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    #195 jakes

    Garsfontein vs Waterkloof one of the most exciting matches in years. Pretoria boys high vs Grey College was one of the toughest matches this year. Then off course EG Jansen vs Garsfontein was also a thriller with their draw.There might be a repeat next weekend.

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    24 July, 2013 at 10:00
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    #194 McCulleys Workshop

    @BOG: You mean a bit like the eToll system. Tjoppe Ventilator Toll.

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    24 July, 2013 at 07:38
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    #193 BOG

    @McCulleys Workshop: Rumour has it that he allows his fellow “inmates” at the O.A.H to take a few gulps of his oxygen for a small fee- his drinking money. Therefore, effectively subsidised by his medical aid. Skelm, but clever actually. You try and ask Discovery for drinking money and see what happens !

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    24 July, 2013 at 06:25
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    #192 Woltrui

    @Tjoppa: Tjop the Affies/ Kloof game was in my opinion not as good as the Grey Bloem/Affies game. The game had an exciting end but a lot of mistakes during the game.
    I heard the Kloof/Garsies game was also very good?

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    24 July, 2013 at 06:23
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    #191 Tjoppa

    @McCulleys Workshop: No can do. Still have half a tank left. And this old engine needs a boost more often these days. But go and help more often at the church is the only option. Never liked nagmaal wyn. But beggars cant be chooser ne.

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    23 July, 2013 at 21:10
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    #190 McCulleys Workshop

    @Tjoppa: pawn the ventilator

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    23 July, 2013 at 21:06
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    #189 Tjoppa

    @Grasshopper: Maybe in the affluent areas. Here in the old age home I have to settle for pirate “Marie Biscuits” and Vyf Rose.

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    23 July, 2013 at 21:01
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    #188 Grasshopper

    @Tjoppa: end of the month salty cracks :-). @beet, thought the Kwaggas vs Boishaai was great even though small crowd, high scoring affair. Paul Roos vs Boishaai was a cracker last weekend too…

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    23 July, 2013 at 20:56
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    #187 McCulleys Workshop

    @Tjoppa: ha ha ha, I’d start by pawning my band saw, jack hammer and all the DIY kit in the garage, the wife won’t notice, buy it back at month end from a street vendor at the robot!

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    23 July, 2013 at 20:55
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    #186 Tjoppa

    @McCulleys Workshop: Mine too? You must remember being a pensioner I am at the end of the month with tea and “pirate” Marie Biscuits.

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    23 July, 2013 at 20:50
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    #185 McCulleys Workshop

    @Tjoppa: Perfect, I can buy my own round!

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    23 July, 2013 at 20:47
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    #184 beet

    @Woltrui: It would make a good blog. I think for many of us here in KZN 2 local games really stood out. The Kearsney vs Glenwood thriller perhaps only outdone by the College vs Glenwood Reunion Day classic.

    Outeniqua vs Grey College
    Affies vs Grey College
    EG vs Outeniqua

    All great games to watch as well

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    23 July, 2013 at 20:44
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    #183 Tjoppa

    @McCulleys Workshop: A soutie that speaks the truth. Hope you can afford your own Bells.

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    23 July, 2013 at 20:28
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    #182 McCulleys Workshop

    @Playa: @Redblack White: I can’t agree with you. The major form of human trafficking across provinces seems to be the acquisition of PDI players into Model C schools to bolster the provinces that aren’t developing their own PD players. If there was no quota system, Queens and company would keep many more of their players at prep school leaving age, and at GK age. Garsfontein would possibly not have experienced the increase in its rugby fortunes and so on. It would seem player movement would be more contained within provinces.

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    23 July, 2013 at 20:17
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    #181 Grasshopper

    @Woltrui: Glenwood vs College on their 150th Reunion is definitely the best game in KZN for years, maybe decades. I was not there but many friends were and they said it was just amazing……Kearsney vs Glenwood was a cracker too.

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    23 July, 2013 at 17:55
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    #179 Tjoppa

    @Woltrui: The game everybody are forgetting is Affies/Waterkloof?

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    23 July, 2013 at 17:21
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    #178 Tjoppa

    @beet: Beet the only reason for quotas is window dressing and we all know it. Nobody is interested in establishing and promoting rugby as a sport of choice in our black communities. I exclude the coloured community for obvious reasons. The goverment is happy when the see black faces and the unions see it cheaper to buy these players than developing and promoting rugby in black dominated areas. So a win win situation for goverment and the unions.
    And according to me the law exist to prevent child trafficking in our country. We must just get the authorities to act.

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    23 July, 2013 at 17:20
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    #177 Redblack White

    @Woltrui – Yes sure – there were thousands present. Being reunion day and the 150th on top of that.

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    23 July, 2013 at 17:11
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    #176 Woltrui

    @Redblack White: If I look at the score the Glenwood / MC game must rate as one of the games of the season. Pity it wasn’t shown on TV. I did look at the photos of the game on Cindyatrugby’s facebook page. Was impressed with the amount of spectators at the game!

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    23 July, 2013 at 14:23
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    #175 Playa

    @Redblack White: Well said

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    23 July, 2013 at 14:04
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    #174 Redblack White

    @Playa : I think you are right – the problem won’t go away by abolishing quotas nor by legislating against it.

    Unfortunately we will have to suck it up and watch it unfold. Sadly, in my opinion, we have created a form of parental hype and allowed school teams to become “franchised” Look at most schoolboy games and in most cases the boys are quite happy to shake hands at the end of a match, acknowledge a good opponent and move on to the next game. Not so the parents and some old boys – they will moan and groan and end up venting at one another on blogs such as these. This intense expectation creates the expectation that the franchise must be and should be the best and we spend hours arguing the merits as to why our franchise should be the best. Meanwhile the boys are hoofing a ball in the backyard and getting ready for the next game and thinking about girls.

    Sounds grim but sad reality I think….

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    23 July, 2013 at 12:33
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    #173 Playa

    @McCulleys Workshop: I disagree. The abolishment of the quota system would just lead to an escalation of the migration of white boys across schools.That said, it’s not that black boys would all of a sudden become immune to poaching either. I seem to lean more towards your assertion that there is NO solution.This WILL only get worse, regardless of what ‘legislation’ is introduced.

    In fact, look at basketball and American football in the USA…that should serve as a lesson for us and our schoolboy rugby.

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    23 July, 2013 at 11:59
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    #172 Redblack White

    @Woltrui – I know this will be a biased opinion, but I did not personally witness the games you mentioned. I think a mention must be made of the MC / GW game on reunion day at MC this year – that one ended 44-40 to GW but was a superb display of running schoolboy rugby. From a purist point of view there may be the opinion that there were too many missed tackles etc, but the fact remains that the pace and intensity was relentless, not once did either team back down. MC were a man down when Elder was red-carded just before halftime for a dodgy tackle – no excuses though – the ref was the honorable Craig Joubert – and College still outscored GW from that point on. I would have loved to have seen that one on the telly afterwards, but unfortunately was not televised. I believe some of the “legendary” bloggers on this site have the footage, so maybe one day.

    In elk geval Mnr Woltrui (jy is ook n legend) – dit is my opinie maar ek is seker dat die wedtryde wat jy genoem het ook baie spesiall moes gewees het.

    Groetnis en baie geluk met Affies se puik vertonings Saterdag ( 26 uit 26 rugby wins) – awasome stats but we love playing you guys and mag die tradisie nog baie lank lewe!!

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    23 July, 2013 at 11:08
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    #171 jakes

    @Woltrui- And to think that EG Jansen- Garsfontein might tackle each other again in the Beeld 1/4 finals> It will be a thriller if both teams are on top of their game but first Garsfontein and Florida are in a playoff this weekend. Just like last year, being the winner of The Valke region, it seems that EG Jansen will have a more difficult route to follow than the runner up, Kempton park, to progress to the finals.

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    23 July, 2013 at 10:25
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    #170 Woltrui

    @beet: Hi Beet. Your remark concerning the best game at the 2012 KERF brought the following thought up. What was the best SBR game thus far in 2013? Games that must be up there for me is the following:
    -Waterkloof / BoisHigh: To see the Kloof boys sticking and playing to a pre planned pattern was amazing.
    -Paarl Gim / Kwaggas game
    -Affies / Grey Bloem
    -The best must be the Garsies / Jansies game in the Nu Power which ended 36 all. The sheer pace and excitement of the game made it a “match of the season” 8)

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    23 July, 2013 at 10:04
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    #169 valke

    @McCulleys Workshop: Agree with you 100% with regards to player poaching. It will continue.

    With regards to quotas ? The current quota system serves no purpose. I believe money should be spend and structures put in place ( like it seems Eastern Cape is doing ) to develop players, but when representative teams are selected, the best players should play.

    Maybe then players would stay in provinces like ours.

    We see new quota players every year. They play Grant Khomo, then next year most are gone, with new players in Academy week teams. The next year most of them are gone as well.

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    23 July, 2013 at 08:58
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    #168 Tierklou

    Verkeerde stelling hierbo “Tiere were without their 2 best players”. Moet eerder lees ” Tiere were without 2 of their best players”.
    Die 8ste man en scrummie wat ingestaan het, het albei puik gespeel.

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    23 July, 2013 at 08:31
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    #167 Woltrui

    @jakes: The PBHS/AFFIES game is going to be massive. It is like Tjoppa said. The 2 schools are the best of friend. You now what happen when 2 friends tackle each other on the rugby field! The PBHS game aside. Affies still got a tough game this Saturday. Glenwood at Durban. If Glenwood wins this match they will have had a very good season. As a Affies supporter I am VERY worried about this Glenwood match. The U/14 match will also be an interesting fixture.

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    23 July, 2013 at 06:43
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    #166 McCulleys Workshop

    @beet: it’s all a bit like musical chairs. But at the end of the day we have the same talent pool within the country, regardless of hiring and rentals of players: the questions that beg answering are 1. Does a player benefit from moving province or school, and as a generalisation it is a very difficult topic to arrive at anything conclusive on because of there being so many factors at play, suffice to say that a talented player at a border school, making CW will get recognised regardless (the same player playing for the BB at CW may get greater attention), and 2. Can we really expect that players who move schools/provinces within 24 months of CW should be excluded? While no parent, for academic reasons would generally want to move their child in the last 2 years of school, parents do get transferred etc. It seems that more rules are not the solution, in fact I don’t believe there is a solution, this is the age of big bucks professional sport and far be it from a school to decline a pupil or a union to legislate. Sadly Beet I don’t see an end to the migration of players nor the increased professional structures within schools, to the contrary I think it will escalate. The only slight possibility in the reduction of player poaching/migration would be the abolishment of the quota system.

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    22 July, 2013 at 22:53
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    #165 beet

    @jakes: I must say that my favourite game of the Kearsney Easter Fest 2012 was Affies vs EG. Very physical and entertaining. EG matched Affies all the way. It ended 19-15. Affies had lost to Klofies a few weeks before that but seemed to get stronger while EG gradually faded, showing lack of consistency despite having the potential. I’m glad to see this 2013 team not taking their foot off the gear. The season could still end very handsomely for them.

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    22 July, 2013 at 22:45
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    #164 beet

    @deecee: This policy is not new to KZN schools and I doubt it started with Fennell but an interesting point because Fennell was indeed head at KES when several top players from the Border region moved to KES.

    This is perhaps a time for SARU to step forward and define what they want to achieve via quota. Do they it to be the tool that drives local development or a window dressing exercise involving recruiting the best from other regions???

    I still believe that there should be a rule to prevent a top player that moves from 1 region to another from playing at GK or CW unless he has been schooling in that region for >24months.

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    22 July, 2013 at 22:26
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    #163 jakes

    @Woltrui-thanks for the info. Yes Affies had some good competition and did very well. Just aa pity they will not play Outeniqua or Paarl gim. But the match against Pretoria boys high will be massive and defintely worth watching

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    22 July, 2013 at 22:18
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    #162 Djou

    @Vleis: By now you should now that PBHS always raise their game against Affies. No matter whether they managed to beat Maritzburg in the dying seconds, they always are a different team against Affies. Just hope the Affie boys also raise their game – Affies can’t afford to lose this one.

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    22 July, 2013 at 19:52
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    #161 Woltrui

    @jakes: Jakes Affies het die jaar ondermeer teen die volgende spanne gespeel:
    Queens College
    Grey PE
    Dale College
    Paul Roos
    Framesby
    KES
    JEPPE
    Waterkloof
    Grey Bloem
    Maritzburg College
    Glenwood(op n goeie dag n bedonderde span) en PBHS wat nog wag.
    Normaalweg speel ons ook teen HJP en Paarl Gim. Ons het hierdie jaar egter ons vriende by Maritzburg College ondersteun by hulle 150ste en het dus nie aan die KERF deelgeneem en nie teen die groot Paarl skole gespeel nie.
    Nie slegte opposisie nie. Van die top rugby skole in die land op die lys. Ek moet toegee julle het n top span wat enige skool in die land op n goeie dag kan klop. Ingesluit Affies, Paarl Gim en Outenikwa.

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    22 July, 2013 at 18:58
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    #160 jakes

    @ Roger- I am teasing you – relax.. I know KES are also a very good rugby school. Thing is EG Jansen is around 50 years old, and they have been able to compete against top schools from around 1999.They were the 01st team that to get it right to knock Affies(1st team) out in the previous super 16 when they beat them 11-10 in 2004 quarter final.That is when they started being noticed. They also played in the Beeld final against Affies that same year and also played against Outeniqua in the news 24 final. Their under 15 team won the Beeld trophy once as well.In 2008 they also had a massive team which finished in the top 5 and won the super 16 competition( Monnas and Waterkloof included)They only lost one game that year against Waterkloof ( Beeld semis but have managed to beat Waterkloof earlier that same year) Unfortunately the school do not have the depth as the powerhouses, but are doing very well the last few years with their A teams

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    22 July, 2013 at 17:13
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    #159 Vleis

    @jakes: Nope, EG beat Monnas by 14 points earlier this year, but that was a Monnas side missing many regulars. I would be interested to see the result now. I think it would be close – certainly not the 50 points. :lol:

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    22 July, 2013 at 17:02
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    #158 Roger

    @jakes: I recall them been in the top twenty (bar 2013) every year since 2007 – but really, if that’s your yardstick – knock yourself out 8-O

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    22 July, 2013 at 16:46
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    #157 Roger

    @jakes: what past – you mean 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008 etc etc etc? My question re: age relates directly to tradition which schools like KES, PBHS, Affies etc value rather more highly than rankings and 1st team (only ) performance. KES, PBHS, Jeppe, Affies, Monnas have been competing at all levels and at all age groups for more than a century

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    22 July, 2013 at 16:43
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    #156 jakes

    @ roger- I also cant recall KES in the top 20 since 1995 except maybe last year.

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    22 July, 2013 at 16:38
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    #155 jakes

    @ Roger- How old are you? what does it matter? Why do you live in the past?? :mrgreen:

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    22 July, 2013 at 16:35
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    #154 jakes

    @ Vleis- I was just teasing with the 80 point remark seeing that you wearing a ST Albans jersey :wink: Thing is if you compare scores EG Jansen and Affies 1st might have a very close one this year. Even their 2ND, under 15’As and 16’As will be good competition, but that is it, there is no further depth to compete. Also EG JANSEN 1st has beaten Monnas with around 20 -30 points as far as I can recall ,earlier this year, hence my calculation regarding KES, but I doubt if the Beeld trophy fixtures will bring this two on the same path again except the final. And lastly, I am saying is that Affies better not under-estimate Pretoria boys high, it will not be the same team that played PMB college. Grey college had one of the toughest games of their lives on Saturday.

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    22 July, 2013 at 16:32
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    #153 Vleis

    @valke: Thanks for the info.

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    22 July, 2013 at 16:24
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    #152 Roger

    @Vleis: he, he, he – keep going Vleis :wink: @jakes: stats are a bitch heh – remind me, how old is EG Jansen and how long have they been competing at the top level of school boy rugby at all age group levels?

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    22 July, 2013 at 16:19
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    #151 Vleis

    @jakes: Jeppe 1sts lost by about 32 to 18 I think…and it was away from home, so not too bad.

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    22 July, 2013 at 16:06
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    #150 Vleis

    @jakes:

    1. The Rugby365 site said that EG Jansen had 1,500 pupils (i.e. 750 boys) in 2006. So, are you telling me that the school has decreased in size by over 50 pupils per year thereafter?

    2. Schools set up their fixture lists over a year in advance, so how are they supposed to predict who will be good in future…and are you suggesting that they chop and change their entire fixture lists every year depending on who they think might be good? Also, are you saying that you would prefer a school to set up fixtures that only suit the 1st/A teams and ignore the other 25 teams? What kind of an school ethos are you in favour of, as it doesn’t sound very good to me? Luckily you are not the one making decisions at EG, as I’m sure that they do not think like you.

    3. You say that “EG will put 50 points against KES and MC this year”, but then you say that Affies are in for rude surprise against a PBHS team who only beat MC via a last minute penalty and who drew with KES (both at home even). Sounds like you are saying that EG is much better than Affies? Also, I now expect EG to beat Monnas (if they meet in the Beeld) by 50 points given that KES drew with Monnas. Don’t disappoint me, like the Falke did in CW! :lol:

    4. What has St Albans got to do with this discussion? I have no idea how the St Albans 1st team would do against EG has we do not play similar teams. One thing I can tell you is that your u15 would not beat St Albans u15 by 80 seeing as though you lost to Jeppe u15 by more than St Albans u15!! Sounds like your u15 would be lucky to escape with a draw! :lol: :lol:

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    22 July, 2013 at 16:04
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    #149 jakes

    @ Valke- Thanks for the info- Is there a specific reason why the numbers for boys at EG Jansen are dwindling so fast?? On top of that I can recall that Jeppe has a very strong under 15 team this year than what they usually field. It could have been that the coach underestimated this team when taken Jeppe as a rugby school in whole. I believe Jeppe’s 1st team also got a hiding from Affies this year, again stating my previous point regarding Affies and the teams the played this year.

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    22 July, 2013 at 15:55
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    #148 valke

    @Vleis: At last count, I believe EG had less than 500 boys. It could have changed this year, but I doubt it.
    They have 13 teams.

    With regards to the u/15 coach. Unfortunately he is a bit “full of himself” and I can assure you the majority of EG coaches /players/parents would not be that arogant.

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    22 July, 2013 at 15:33
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    #147 jakes

    At Vleis- EG Jansen does not have close to 750 boys- they qualify to play in the big schools league which is less than 600 Boys in the school then. Also I never said Affies SHOULD play EG Jansen, all I said is that Affies, taking their criteria in mind, will then NEVER play the top schools in Gauteng simply because they can not field so many teams or rugby playing boys. Yes and EG Jansen will put 30-50 points against KES and PMB college this year and 80 maybe against St Albans, and even beat Affies this year,so what does the top 20 in the past have anything to do with this years current performances?? Fact is that the competition that Affies are playing this year are not always on par with their 1st team, does not matter how many teams the schools can produce on the day.

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    22 July, 2013 at 14:50
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    #146 QC86

    @Vleis: one guy looked 25, :mrgreen: but they played the better rugby,i think the win against Grey Bloem is costing those u15’s,

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    22 July, 2013 at 14:31
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    #145 Vleis

    @jakes:A few comments from me:

    1. I believe that EG Jansen has 750 boys but only 11 teams, whereas St John’s and Saints (who have a similar number of boys) manage to field 19 teams. If EG increased their teams to 18/19, I’m sure that they would have a much better chance of being included on Affies fixture list. Why does EG have so few teams for such a large school?

    2. You say that the quality of KES and Maritzburg “is not up to par” and then suggest that EG should be included on Affies fixture list. You are making the same mistake as the EG u15 coach, who had a tantrum at the 2013 Affies u15 festival because his ‘strong’ side was scheduled to play ‘weak/soutie’ schools like Jeppe and MC. Guess what, EG got hammered by Jeppe and lost to MC too. Sometimes it is best to be humble – e.g. while EG is having a very good year in 2013, you may be interested to know that KES was ranked comfortably above EG in 2011 and 2012, while MC was ranked above EG in 2011 and narrowly below in 2012.

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    22 July, 2013 at 14:28
  64. avatar
    #144 Playa

    @Ludz: Oh yes!That goes without saying.Should be a cracker of a game

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    22 July, 2013 at 14:05
  65. avatar
    #143 Vleis

    @QC86: Thanks. Does the HP team still have some very mature looking players?

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    22 July, 2013 at 13:41
  66. avatar
    #142 Ludz

    @Playa: yeah, but they mustn’t be too over confident, Selborne will be disappointed with Saturday’s result and that might fire them up for Queen’s, Jedwyn Harty and Lungelo Gosa are gonna be a handful

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    22 July, 2013 at 13:37
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    #141 Tjoppa

    @jakes: Affies pride itself that it is a school for all their children. So I do not see their attitude changing soon. Also taking into account that their fixtures is set more than a year in advance it is difficult to foresee a school’s good and bad years. Take Eldoraign for example. So do they organise games where schools realise there eyes were bigger than their mouth or do they play the schools that honour their commitments year after year. So Jakes start performing year after year in top 10 territory and organise a game. There is space on the calendar. Regarding Boys High. Let the game begin. The result will be part of History but the “friendship” will be forever between these two schools.

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    22 July, 2013 at 12:49
  68. avatar
    #140 Playa

    @QC86: Eish!
    QC will be beaming with confidence following their shadow practice against Port Rex.
    Game is at The Rec, I presume?

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    22 July, 2013 at 12:43
  69. avatar
    #139 Tjoppa

    @Greenwood: Hoping will get you nowhere sista, Praying? …………………. also not.

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    22 July, 2013 at 12:40
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    #138 Ludz

    @QC86: came through for the last 25 minutes of the game, really nice crowd and I must be honest enjoyed those 25 minutes more than the 70 minutes of 1 way traffic at Port Rex. Unlucky there for Selborne, what did Jedwyn do to get that yellow at the end there?

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    22 July, 2013 at 12:37
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    #137 jakes

    If Affies going to stick to their plan of only playing schools around the country who can field around 25- 30 teams, then that is their plan and if they think it works for them let it be.,, BUT unfortunately this means not playing a lot of the top schools in Gauteng ( Monnas< EG Jansen< HTS Middelburg< Nelspruit, Garsfontein , Centurion, Menlopark, Kempton park) These schools can provide competition in the 1st teams, 2nd teams and JNR A and B teams, but reality is they will NEVER be able to field 25-30 teams on the day.,purely because they do have the numbers as Affies has. So the quality of competition that Affies have been playing this year, due to their reason for only playing schools that can provide 20 plus teams have not always been up to par( KES , PMB College, HTS John Vorster for instance). I do however think that Affies are going to be in for a rude awakening against Pretoria boys high in 2 weeks time. If one have seen the onslaught those massive forwards brought to the table against Grey college, I think PBH are peaking at the right time. Might be the match of the year..

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    22 July, 2013 at 12:08
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    #136 Greenwood

    Gungets – Affies : GWD & MC must continue these fixtures…..
    take off 15-to 20 because of altitude which is big factor – I’ve run X-country and track in Pretoria
    and for days afterwards my lungs were hurting . GWD have beaten Affies away & home over the last 4 years but reality sucks and the Green Machine will have their work cut out to compete against Affies – I foresee a game similar to Monnas a few weeks ago at Glenwood when GWD were simply out-muscled – and only lost by 6 points -but being a home game who knows – the Machine may have Campbell in the back of the their heads :-x – chuck in a huge crowd , travelling etc etc..

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    22 July, 2013 at 11:04
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    #135 QC86

    @Playa: Don’t start with me :evil: can’t play rugby without a F…..G COACH,seconds lost again,i hope QC kill Selborne on SAT,our kids run around the field clueless :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

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    22 July, 2013 at 10:47
  74. avatar
    #134 Playa

    @HORSEFLY NO.1: No worries.We need the wake up call.I can accept boys being taken in primary school, it is when it happens in the late high school years where I have a problem.

    Word is that DHS are trying to build up for their 150th.But if my maths and facts are right, these boys will only be 16 in 2016…so maybe the picture is beyond just your 150th.

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    22 July, 2013 at 09:30
  75. avatar
    #133 Playa

    @QC86: Geeez what happened there?A draw???That would make it 2 draws in a row if I’m not mistaken.HP really becoming your guys’ voodoo team.

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    22 July, 2013 at 09:24
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    #132 phat55

    @Koos Roos: I know a kid in the u15 team who confirmed the same u just said.the schedule given out at the gate though said u15A was playing on the A-field :-? I was standing on the PRG try line on the A-field and those kids are damn small if they were supposedly u19 8-O

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    21 July, 2013 at 20:10
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    #131 Koos Roos

    @phat55: How sure are you about the u 15 and 14 games on the A field? I spoke to my friend who has a son in thw u 15 side. They played on the E field I’m told. The u 14’s on the D field. Just checking??????????

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    21 July, 2013 at 19:45
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    #130 phat55

    @Ploegskaar: that is what i meant yes because Bosch should be favourites as they played home but i was more surprised by the margin.thanks for that…..

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    21 July, 2013 at 17:27
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    #129 Ploegskaar

    @phat55: Surprised by the margin, but not really the result. This Bosch team is a good unit with standouts like captain Jamie King and Zain Davids. I for one am very happy with the u15 and u16 Boland teams this year, the Boland boys are traditionally late bloomers and good Boland age group teams only get that much better as open team players. As your mates will tell you they also tend to get a bit bigger and stronger in gr11/12 than their peers, so lots to look forward to. All in all this result has gone to form with Bosch winning u14, Boland u15 and Bosch u16, the home side the victor on each occasion.

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    21 July, 2013 at 17:09
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    #128 phat55

    @Oom Kaspaas: to be honest i did not.just by the way he could tell me that with a smile on his face & also the u14/15 playing on the A-field but not the u16s,was enough for me.

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    21 July, 2013 at 16:38
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    #127 Oom Kaspaas

    @phat55: Het jy daai selfde ouer gevra hoeveel wedstryde die onder 16a’s deur die seisoen op die A veld gespeel het?

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    21 July, 2013 at 16:08
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    #126 deecee

    Interesting that DHS have gone and raped and plundered Dale. Did their CEO, Fennel not do that when he was at KES ? Not the way to go and make friends is it? Wheat a pity they feel it necessary to shop in the EC. I think it is important for boys who grow up in the Border to stay there. There are many great schools they can attend and have their rugby talent developed. The next question is what role does Steven Saad, old boy and benefactor have in all of this? Is he not also very involved in sharks, could be interesting times ahead in kzn sbr. Perhaps those in KZN can shed some light!

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    21 July, 2013 at 15:59
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    #125 phat55

    @Koos Roos: agreed!

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    21 July, 2013 at 15:54
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    #124 Koos Roos

    @phat55: The R/bosch u 16 outcome only shows what a good side they are. Towards matric they are going to be tough. It’s good for WP rugby!

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    21 July, 2013 at 15:49
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    #123 phat55

    @Koos Roos: exactly what i mean! both teams obviously played on the same field however we all know how conditions like that are a great leveller and in my opinion gave PBH their best chance of pulling off an unlikely victory.one of the PBH parents admitted during the game why that game was put on the B instead of A-field if u catch my drift :wink:

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    21 July, 2013 at 15:39
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    #122 Koos Roos

    @phat55: Op ‘n droe veld meen ek die telling sou anders daar uitgesien het. Velde was groot gelykmaker.

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    21 July, 2013 at 15:31
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    #121 phat55

    PRG vs PBH U16A was a real tough game especially with the conditions on the B-field and a real gem of a referee.lets not start on the 7 or 8 mins of injury time he played as well :-P
    gutted for our 1st team to lose by 1 point :cry:
    Bit surprised by the result of the Rondebosch vs Boland Landbou u16a game………

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    21 July, 2013 at 15:12
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    #120 Gungets Tuft

    @Woltrui: PBHS against College this Saturday on Goldstones. College lost to a last minute penalty in Pretoria earlier this year, it will be interesting to see how PBHS have improved. Everyone says they have really stepped it up this year. Always a really good match, might give a little pointer to the Pretoria derby result ….

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    21 July, 2013 at 13:07
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    #119 Woltrui

    Grootste verrasing van die dag moet PBHS se vertoning teen Grey Bloem wees. Ek was onder die indruk Grey Bloem sou weghardloop met die wedstryd. Alles dui nou op n interesante derby tussen die boertjies en die souties in Pretoria oor twee weke 8-O

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    21 July, 2013 at 12:06
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    #118 Gungets Tuft

    @Tjoppa: If you were a PMB or Durbs boy and played in Pretoria you would know better. Not saying that College could have won, but there is no doubt of the effect. I used to run marathons, the JSE from Chunnisbeg to Pretoria was the hardest race of my life, sucking for oxygen the whole way.

    Affies were good for it, well done, they were clinical and efficient. Everyone I spoke to said that the scoreline did not tell the whole story though, the boys will take heart from that. They pitched up, it’s all you can ask for.

    And I know jukskei. In another previous life, as an employee of PW ……

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    21 July, 2013 at 10:52
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    #117 Tjoppa

    @Gungets Tuft: No altitude. This is the way Affies play first they overpower you with size and strenght and then run you to pieces.

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    21 July, 2013 at 08:25
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    #116 Tjoppa

    @Gungets Tuft: Do not be fooled by Jukskei. It is not a sport at all. It is a direct interpretation by the Boors of Bowls. You must remember those days they were supposedly prim and proper on their oxwagons and tents. So they invented Jukskei toe notch the other trekker’s wife standing in a rather inappropriate manner. :evil: :evil: :evil:

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    21 July, 2013 at 08:24
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    #115 Tjoppa

    @Ploegskaar: Ons gaan nou mos nie baklei nie. Julle is ‘n kolonie, selfs die ANC stem saam, en ons beste in land.

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    21 July, 2013 at 08:08
  94. avatar
    #114 Gungets Tuft

    @Woltrui: And you played everything like you play rugby …..

    At 1st team 2-0 is not a bad result. Probably puts you in the Top 20 in hockey in SA. Is there a Jukskei ranking I can check out … :mrgreen:

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    20 July, 2013 at 21:27
  95. avatar
    #113 Woltrui

    @Gungets Tuft: If you guys play jukskei like you play hockey you will kick ass! :wink:

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    20 July, 2013 at 21:10
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    #112 Ploegskaar

    @Klofie Pa: Kwalifiseer voortaan, tans die topskool noord van Colesberg, so 3de nasionaal.

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    20 July, 2013 at 20:21
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    #111 Klofie Pa

    geluk Affies. klink of dit n lekker dag was!!Groot score maar dis nog steeds n voorreg dink ek vir MC om teen die top skool te speel!!
    Enige telling tussen EG en Kempton iemand??

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    20 July, 2013 at 16:25
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    #110 Gungets Tuft

    @Woltrui: Here’s an offer ou Wollie. Next year your guys are at College. You come down, bring your Jukskei team, us souties are bok for anything. Get here on Friday night, we open Goldstones Club, we will get 2 Long Jump pits ready for your stokkies. But we might have to introduce a few extra rules, so bring a designated driver. Or we can ask the Bowling club for the use of their greens and we can play marbles.

    As for continued match days against Affies – can’t see them stopping. Only PBHS, Affies, Glenwood and Westville give us teams from top to bottom

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    20 July, 2013 at 16:20
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    #109 HORSEFLY NO.1

    @Gungets Tuft:
    Yeah I guess that’s quite true. But as you said, 4 players for a school like Glenwood who successfully introduced a lot of grade 11s into the 1st team is too much. 8-O

    Also, I was speaking to a close family member of one of the KZN U18A players and although this topic has been exhausted I did hear that the coaches didn’t agree on tactics at all. The backline coach had his own ideas and so did Barend.

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    20 July, 2013 at 16:08
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    #108 Woltrui

    Affies/MC. Wonderlike skole sport dag tussen twee top seuns skole. Stem nie saam Grasshopper dat die wedstryde nie behoort plaasvind nie. Wedstryde oor die algemeen hard en taai. Die eerste span eindtelling gee nie ware refleksie van gebeure nie. Wedstryd was baie taaier as wat telling aandui. Albei skole baat baie by die wedstryde. Vyftien jaar terug het MC Affies met 13 -0 op die hokkie veld verneder. Gereelde wedstryde teen top oposisie maak dat Affies hokkie nou saam die groot honde kan blaf. Glo MC vind ook baat om teen Affies deel te neem. Jammer die souties speel nie jukskei nie 8-O

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    20 July, 2013 at 15:38
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    #107 Ploegskaar

    HTS Drostdy 15 Wynberg BHS 25

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    20 July, 2013 at 15:08
  102. avatar
    #106 Gungets Tuft

    51-20 full time. Whitewashed in the 2nd half.

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    20 July, 2013 at 14:59
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    #105 Gungets Tuft

    @HORSEFLY NO.1: I think there will be quite a few new faces around in the open ranks at the start of next season. If I look back at the quality of the 2010 KZN Grade 7 ranks it was not the strongest year. At DPHS it was the end of the Dream Team era. I understand topping up on talent, or specific positions perhaps needing something special, like a tall lock or a quick wing, but 8 is always a lot, so is 4 imports at open level. That’s 1/4 of a team that has to be dealt with morale wise.

    Perhaps I am projecting. I would be p#ssed off as a player. My #*%#head response would be to prove them them wrong, show them what they have wasted their money on, but I know some people just move on.

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    20 July, 2013 at 14:56
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    #104 Ploegskaar

    Boishaai 21 Paul Roos 20
    SACS 3 Paarl Gym 55
    Bishops 31 Tygerberg HS 10

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    20 July, 2013 at 14:45
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    #103 HORSEFLY NO.1

    So I heard that Glenwood has gotten itself four new players who are either in grade10 or 11.
    Apparently they mostly hail from up in Pretoria. Anyone else hear anything of the sort?

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    20 July, 2013 at 14:42
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    #102 HORSEFLY NO.1

    @Gungets Tuft:
    Yeah but you have to understand that KZN doesn’t have the greatest pool of talent .

    Im pretty sure they’ve tried to get as many as possible from KZN schools and then went down to EC afterwards.
    But as already said, i’d much prefer them recruiting here instead.

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    20 July, 2013 at 14:40
  107. avatar
    #101 Gungets Tuft

    37-20 after 50 minutes. Altitude and travel starting to take its toll.

    Rather be there than watching the Proteas getting murdered against Sri Lanka.

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    20 July, 2013 at 14:35
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    #100 Ploegskaar

    Rondebosch vs Boland Landbou:
    U14a ‘Bosch 10 Boland 10
    U15a ‘Bosch 19 Boland 27
    U16a ‘Bosch 30 Boland 10
    U18a ‘Bosch 20 Boland 30

    Bellville HS vs Stellenberg HS:
    U14a B’ville 13 S’Berg 21
    U15a B’ville 7 S’Berg 24
    U16a B’ville 28 S’Berg 13
    U18a B’ville 13 S’Berg 8

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    20 July, 2013 at 14:35
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    #99 Gungets Tuft

    @HORSEFLY NO.1: Not going to improve things that the imports with full bursaries don’t make the A sides, the locals are going to still be the moer in. It’s really a no win situation.

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    20 July, 2013 at 14:33
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    #98 HORSEFLY NO.1

    @Playa:
    WOW!! Eight?? That’s massive. Sorry about that, not sure why the school is so interested with those players suddenly now. I would honestly prefer DHS sticking with the KZN lads. But maybe they see that that’s where they can get the best talent like Glenwood do at Pretoria.

    And Gungets, the spots in the team aren’t necessarily taken as yet. A couple of the boys from the Eastern Cape in this years squad couldn’t make the A side due to some talented boys without bursaries.

    One of those boys is a former DPHS boy whom actually played 3rd side at DPHS only to vastly improve when he got to DHS.

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    20 July, 2013 at 14:19
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    #97 Gungets Tuft

    Sorry, not half time. Score now 22-17 to Affies

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    20 July, 2013 at 14:15
  112. avatar
    #96 Gungets Tuft

    Halftime for the firsts at Affies, 17-17

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    20 July, 2013 at 14:13
  113. avatar
    #95 Woltrui

    Hockey. 1st team. MC 2 – 0 AFFIES. Proud of the Affies hockey boys.

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    20 July, 2013 at 12:44
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    #94 QC86

    VLEIS, SELBORNE u15 won 13 10 , u16 won 17 0 and u14 won 33 5, u15 game very tight, hudson should have won

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    20 July, 2013 at 12:36
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    #93 Gungets Tuft

    After 30 minutes Twitter tells me PBH trail Paul Roos 16-17, after being 16-7 up.

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    20 July, 2013 at 12:32
  116. avatar
    #92 Gungets Tuft

    Rugby that I have

    U16A lost 38-7
    U16D lost 26-0
    U15A lost 30-10
    U14A lost 43-3

    Hockey

    3rds lost 2-1
    U16A lost 1-0
    U16B drew 2-2
    U16C won 2-0
    U16D won 12-0
    U14A won 7-0

    Tough day in the rugby office :(
    U14B won 1-0

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    20 July, 2013 at 12:28
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    #91 Grasshopper

    Again Affies showing why it’s a mismatch against KZN opposition, actually most English schools. They humped KES too and will win most of the games at Glenwood. I would prefer to drop the Affies and Grey Bloem fixtures down the line and play against a school of similar strength eg PBHS, Jeppe or KES…..the 1st teams can still play them at festivals….the College A teams are not bad and they getting a klap…

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    20 July, 2013 at 12:18
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    #90 Woltrui

    O/16. AFFIES 38 – 7 MC. Eind telling.
    O/16 Hokkie. Affies 1 – 0. Eind telling.

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    20 July, 2013 at 11:32
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    #89 Woltrui

    O/16. Affies 31 – 0 MC. HT. MC speler af met geel kaart.

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    20 July, 2013 at 11:00
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    #88 Woltrui

    U/15 AFFIES 30 – 10 MC. FT. Goeie harde wedstryd. Beide spanne op stadium met 14 spelers gespeel.
    Tellings tussen Paul Roos en HJP?

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    20 July, 2013 at 10:35
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    #87 Woltrui

    U/15. Affies 8 – 0 MC. HT. Affies playing with 14 men. Hooker yellow carded.

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    20 July, 2013 at 10:01
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    #86 Woltrui

    Affies u/14 win MC 43-3.

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    20 July, 2013 at 09:28
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    #85 Woltrui

    Beatifull day in Pretoria. Affies U/14 14-3 up at halftime against Marritzburrow.

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    20 July, 2013 at 08:59
  124. avatar
    #84 Koos Roos

    @Ploegskaar: Eendrag maak Mag, het ek eens op ‘n tyd iewers geleer.

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    19 July, 2013 at 20:14
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    #83 Klofie Pa

    Die REGTE Wit Bulle begin more hul aanslag op die Beeld!!
    Sterkte vir julle en natuulik EG en HTS!!
    Wollie ???!

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    19 July, 2013 at 19:38
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    #82 Tjoppa

    @Koos Roos: Met ‘n ordentlike geelperske mampoer asempie? Sorry sorry julle ken mos nie vir Meneer Mampoer nie.

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    19 July, 2013 at 16:27
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    #81 Ploegskaar

    @Koos Roos: Julle lyk ook almal dieselfde….

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    19 July, 2013 at 15:48
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    #80 bhkgpa

    @Koos Roos: sal doen ek staan daar tussen a en b veld het vol reenklere aan as die weer so bly

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    19 July, 2013 at 15:06
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    #79 Playa

    @Gungets Tuft: Ah I hear you.I didn’t see it from that angle.This could just open up a whole new chapter in SBR…can of worms that everyone wants to avoid.

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    19 July, 2013 at 14:57
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    #78 Gungets Tuft

    @Playa: No, I don’t think that the boys will suffer at all, not really in the Durban culture. However, if you witness the bad feeling at Northwood this year due to the late 1st Team imports, you realise that the importing of players needs to be very sensitively managed. Northwood and DHS have struggled to get Durban boys to attend their schools – where the (Northwood in particular) are ideally situated with a relatively well-off local population and have great facilities. To stick it to your traditional feeders with so many imports is a big gamble. If the really talented boys from DPHS and other local schools suddenly end up at Glenwood, Westville and even further afield, look no further for an explanation.

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    19 July, 2013 at 14:41
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    #77 Playa

    @Gungets Tuft: I dont have the specifics, but the assumption of 100% bursaries is reasonable.I suspect Dru Nass played a part in the talent scouting seeing as he comes from Border.

    As far as the other 7 are concerned, I believe 1 is going to Grey Bloem, and another 2 to Grey PE.So Dale will only retain 4 boys :cry:

    Your other points are valid. One has to worry about the sort of treatment these boys will get from the Durban community.I hope the adults at least will be mature enough to realise that the situation is not of the boys’ doings.

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    19 July, 2013 at 14:33
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    #76 Koos Roos

    @bhkgpa: Soek ‘n ronde ou met bril, PRG pet en baadjie!

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    19 July, 2013 at 14:26
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    #75 bhkgpa

    @Koos Roos: sal lekker wees sal egter eers so half 10 se kant daar kan wees.

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    19 July, 2013 at 14:18
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    #74 Gungets Tuft

    @Ludz: Have to guess that those 8 did not come to KZN for anything less than a 100% bursary. From one point of view, well done DHS on getting the talent.

    The other view of course is what the Durban kids feel, knowing that there are 8 spots in the U14A spoken for, one assumes that the purchases are aimed at A-team players.

    It also opens them up to queries from the remaining 7 players, unless they also got bursaries. 15 (Lets assume that those 7 are day-boys at just R24K a year), or even 8, just for rugby in a year, takes some financing. Says a lot for the Future Life of DHS, gnome sane?

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    19 July, 2013 at 14:07
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    #73 Koos Roos

    By the way, speel die Eerste spanne nie ook nie???????

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    19 July, 2013 at 12:56
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    #72 Koos Roos

    Hoewel PRG tot by die o 16 C span diepte het, was Boishaai nog altyd sterk opponente. Dit sal net ‘n fool wees wat nou grootpraterig raak!

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    19 July, 2013 at 12:53
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    #71 Koos Roos

    @bhkgpa: Wat van soetes van 8 uur af? Gaan vrek koud wees. Ek sou ietsie vir julle gereel het.

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    19 July, 2013 at 12:50
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    #70 Ludz

    @Playa: @QC86: yeah I think I will come over for u16A game, just keen to see Elano’s boys and the 15As, thereafter I can come watch at Selborne for a little while, will head back for 1sts and 2nds possibly.

    @Playa: Really sad to hear about the 8 u13As hey, that’s half the team

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    19 July, 2013 at 11:59
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    #69 Playa

    @QC86: Eish!Last info I had was that Kuse and Folokwe (the hooker) were approached by Grey PE, but no communication made to Dale yet, so that still lingers as a rumour.No clarity on Winnar either,though an offer was made to him by a KZN school.Will let you know once all is confirmed

    I can,however tell you that DHS has snapped up 8 of our Under 13As. :(

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    19 July, 2013 at 08:59
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    #68 jakes

    Woltrui- thanks for the info. Does anyone know the kick off time for Grey College- Pretoria Boys?

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    19 July, 2013 at 08:56
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    #67 QC86

    @Ludz: thanx boet,will miss our sideline chats,scrappy looking very round after the long break,Tian hurt his AC joint at GK so might not play,better to save him for Dale.Come over u16’s game only at 11.10@Playa: Does Dale still have a u16 team??? Kuse and co back at school?? do some scratching and let us know.

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    19 July, 2013 at 08:52
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    #66 Redblack White

    @Lammonds – No, not suggesting a win at all – was actually said in jest – hence the “stir” – took my eldest son back to Tuks yesterday and I know a lot of PMB boys also returning over the weekend – hence the Pretoria stir. As far as the rugby goes – the only guarantee is a lot of guts by our boys against the manne from Affies – they look an awesome team so should be a cracker.

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    19 July, 2013 at 08:39
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    #65 Playa

    @Ludz: You may just be better off at Selborne. Queens are going to pummel the spanner boys, it is sure to be a one sided affair.Hudson on the other hand usually give Selborne a run for their money…well…in the first half…then the wheels come off their wagon while Selborne switch gears.

    Or maybe just catch the first half of the HP-SC game,then run to Vincent for the second half of the QC feast at Port Rex :mrgreen:

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    19 July, 2013 at 08:34
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    #64 bhkgpa

    @Vleis: sorry I do not understand your comment

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    19 July, 2013 at 08:05
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    #63 Maroon

    @PaulRoosPa: hahaha! Ek is self maar skrikkerrig vir haar!

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    19 July, 2013 at 06:24
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    #62 PaulRoosPa

    @Maroon: Oppas net vir daai volksvreemde tannie met ‘n Britse aksent in die klubhuis, ek bang haar!

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    18 July, 2013 at 23:49
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    #61 Tjoppa

    @Woltrui: He should be fine walking. Time will be determined if he is chased by muggers. But Vleis this is Gungsta country so the Okapi will not do. Pop in at Perskers on Friday night. On entry if they ask you if you have a fire arm, say no and they will give you one. Please insist testing it on the barman before accepting the piece. But hell enjoy our friendly city.

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    18 July, 2013 at 20:55
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    #60 Ludz

    @GCollege86: @QC86: it’s a pity they are playing at Selborne, would’ve been good to pop over and come watch Scrappy’s game and Grant and Tiaan’s game. All the best to the boys, I’ll be at Port Rex

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    18 July, 2013 at 20:14
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    #59 Gungets Tuft

    @Woltrui: There would be no better time to get one over the U16A. It is not the strongest College team, simply be because there are 4 or 5 U16 boys playing 1st Team. One of them, Tullis, has been picked for the SA U16 team, follows his mother who was a Springbok in her day.

    Wish I could make the trip but it is the Girl Child’s last weekend at home before she goes back to Grahamstown, need to make the most of the time.

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    18 July, 2013 at 20:08
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    #58 Woltrui

    @Vleis: Vleis I wouldn’t recomend a walk from PBHS to Affies or Vica versa. Parking in PBHS. If no parking at Affies stop in front of Affies girls hockey astro. Can walk through Affies girls school to Affies.
    @Gungets Tuft: Affies Marritzburrow always good games and LOT of “gees”. I know from experience the Affies hockeyes boitjies see the Marritzburrow game as the match of the season. I got hope for our u/16a hockey team

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    18 July, 2013 at 19:03
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    #57 PaarlBok

    @sacssupporter: You wont find a line between the provinces. Paarl have a lot of schools, so do Stellenbosch, its only Gim, PBH, PR and Landbou playing for WP. Prymary schools dunno, also a certain lot. I do know when they had the fighting a few years back, the schools dont mind that much which province, they just want to play rugby.

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    18 July, 2013 at 16:34
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    #56 Gungets Tuft

    @Tjoppa: {sigh… tjekking wedding tackle … all in proportion…} .. good.

    It is going to be a good test of the U15’s and U16’s. Affies are a solid rugby school, 16 times out of 18 tells the story, but since I am not playing on Saturday, I will stay out of a contest over it. :roll:

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    18 July, 2013 at 16:15
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    #55 Lammonds

    @Gungets: agree with you on that, difficult to predict at the best of times,time to stand up indeed!looking forward to the u15 result,should be a close one i think.
    Thanks @Tjoppa…we shall see!

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    18 July, 2013 at 15:32
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    #54 Vleis

    I will probably take my son to watch PBH v GCB and MC v Affies. Should be good games, but Affies and GCB will start as favourites.

    I’ll also be interested to see how MC u15 cope with Affies u15. Despite the fact that the former have improved this year, I still expect a fairly large win for the latter. I hope that I am wrong, but I’m afraid that the PBH u15 will get massacred by GCB u15 – after all, St Alban’s u15 beat PBH u15 a month ago.

    Does anyone know how long it takes to walk from one school to the other?

    @QC86: Yes, a team comprising the best of Bishops, Wynberg, Bosch, SACS and Tygerberg, plus some from the other schools (incl. Strand, Belville, etc) would be very strong and, no doubt, play very attractive rugby. Also, I wonder whether the trek from Belville, etc to the Wynlands would be slowed if the players knew that they could play for the “WP City” CW team?

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    18 July, 2013 at 15:22
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    #53 Tjoppa

    @Lammonds: @Gungets Tuft: The only way you Souties are going down in a bad bad way.

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    18 July, 2013 at 15:20
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    #52 Gungets Tuft

    @Lammonds: Not going up. No predictions either, I have seen our team at their best (vs Glenwood) and their very worst (vs Westville) this year, so I guess it depends which team shows up. I know they will give 100%, I just hope the biorhythms are in line, then I think they can beat anyone. It’s a monster trip, 8 or more hours in a bus, game at altitude, against one of the best teams in SA at the moment, time to stand up … 8)

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    18 July, 2013 at 15:15
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    #51 Lammonds

    @Gungets:Oh yes thats right Gungets,2000 on Goldstones…seem to remember a good display from the College centre Paul Kendall on the day,hope im not mixing things up with the `02 side. Any predictions for the weekend, are you going up?

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    18 July, 2013 at 15:06
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    #50 tandemfitarborsurculus

    @PaarlBok: ek gaan baie verder terug, bok van die paarl.

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    18 July, 2013 at 14:18
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    #49 GCollege86

    @beet: Selborne’s fixture list for 3rd term:
    Sat,20 July – Selb vs Hudson @ Selborne
    Sat 27 July – Selb vs Queens @ Queens
    Sat 3 Aug – Selb vs Dale @ Selborne
    Fri 9 Aug – Selb vs Grey PE @ Grey

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    18 July, 2013 at 12:39
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    #48 Gungets Tuft

    @Lammonds: Under correction, College have played Affies 18 times, lost 16, won 2 (2000 by 16-10 and 2006 19-15).

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    18 July, 2013 at 11:24
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    #47 sacssupporter

    @PaarlBok: Does anyone know where the “official” borderline is between WP/Boland/SW Districts?
    The four teams could be called:
    SWD – stays the same
    Boland – stays the same
    WP Central – CT schools – wears the existing Stormers jersey but take away the stormers logo
    WP Winelands – Paarl/Stellenbosch – wears the existing WP jersey

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    18 July, 2013 at 11:19
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    #46 QC86

    @Vleis: A mate and i spoke about that exact thing at GK a couple of weeks ago,at present a whole lot of talent is sitting at home that could easily have made most other teams,i agree with your split too.

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    18 July, 2013 at 10:53
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    #45 Lammonds

    @Redblack White; Not sure what youi mean by causing a stir but if you mean a win for College then that would be a major upset going on past results. If memory serves, i think we have only beaten Affies on 2 occasions,both on Goldstones,`02 with Peter Grant and co and if im not mistaken `06…i could be wrong. Affies is always a great school to play against so enjoy it boys and good luck!

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    18 July, 2013 at 10:30
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    #44 PaarlBok

    @Vleis: You will hurt the biggest rugby area in SA if you call Stellenbosch & Paarl Boland. Your Boland CD should be Boland and the Paarl Stellenbosch schools should be called Maties and should play in maroon jerseys. They will dominate CW like the current WP team but this will never happen. Doc Craven and Jannie Engelbrecht tried it since their days and could not succeed.

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    18 July, 2013 at 09:38
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    #43 QC86

    @beet: thought it could be something personal :mrgreen:

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    18 July, 2013 at 09:27
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    #42 Vleis

    @sacssupporter: Agreed – it is ridiculous that so many strong schools, across such a huge area, are mixed into just one team. I would split the region into:
    – WP – S & N Suburbs plus Somerset West,
    – Boland – Paarl and Stellies schools;
    – Boland CD – the current Boland team.

    I think that the new Boland team would hardly be impacted given that those schools make up 90% of the current WP team. Having said that I still think that the new WP team would do very well at CW.

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    18 July, 2013 at 09:19
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    #41 PaarlBok

    @bhkgpa:
    The DHL Western Province Under-16 team:

    15. R Muller (H/S BELL)
    13. E du Preez (GIM)
    12. T Schoor (GIM)
    11. K Abrahams (GIM)
    10. G Lourens (GIM)
    9. J Williams (BLS)
    7. J Paarwater (BISH)
    6. J Visser (GIM)
    3. O Theart (GIM)
    2. C Tyler (SACS)
    1. A Adams (ROND)
    16. S Farmer (TYG)
    17. B Smith (BLS)
    18. MZ Davids (ROND)

    11 van die begin XV. Net vier van HJS en PR in die begin span.

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    18 July, 2013 at 09:12
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    #40 PaarlBok

    @tandemfitarborsurculus: Ek kan net van een jaar (2 jaar terug) wat die gunsteling nie die interskole gewen het sedert 2000 nie. Boishaai is mos die gunsteling oor twee weke?

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    18 July, 2013 at 09:02
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    #39 sacssupporter

    @Vleis: Just shows how strong WP schools rugby is – WP U16 won the Grant Khomo week even with what you are saying. I have no doubt that the Paul Roos guys deserved to be there – I’m just saying that our schools rugby is very good at all age groups – great for WP going forward…
    I just wish that we had independent WP age group selectors who had no links to specific schools AND that we were able to split WP into two areas so more youngsters can get the opportunity of playing at these weeks – we have enough depth to field two very strong sides one from CT schools and the other from Stellenbosch/Paarl.

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    18 July, 2013 at 08:53
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    #38 valke

    @Djou: Djou, nie noodwendig nie.
    Na die naweek is daar nog 10 spanne oor in beeld trofee. 6 spanne gaan deur na die kwart finaal. Die Valke wenner is deel hiervan. ( ek hoop my syfers is korrek )
    Die ander 4 spanne speel volgende naweek in uitspeel wedstryde teen mekaar om te bepaal wie tot die kwart finaal deurdring. Die Valke naas wenners is deel hiervan. Dit mag dalk ‘n “makliker” wedstryd wees, maar eers daarna speel hulle in die kwartfinaal.
    Kempton het verlede jaar hierdie roete gevolg en die Beeld trofee gewen.
    Kwart finaal behoort eers op 3 Augustus te wees.

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    18 July, 2013 at 08:10
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    #37 beet

    @Klofie Pa: please help

    So then
    Monnas/Florida vs …
    and
    Winner Nellies/HTS vs …

    If
    Garsies vs losers Nellies/HTS
    and
    Klofies vs winners EG/Kempies

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    17 July, 2013 at 20:52
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    #36 beet

    @QC86: Thanks. I don’t know what happened to my Selborne fixture list. It appears to have been deleted. I think I’ve missed listed a number of their games but only just realised it now. :oops:

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    17 July, 2013 at 20:43
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    #35 Klofie Pa

    kloof vs verloor tussen hts/nellies
    garsies vs wen tussen eg/kemp.

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    17 July, 2013 at 20:37
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    #34 spot

    Little bit off the point now: Can anyone please explain to me the new tendency of throwing the ball away (into the crowd) as a means of celebrating scoring a try? Even schools boys are catching on to this. Saw one boy even throwing the ball at the opposition players who were too late to stop him scoring the try.

    Queens vs Port Rex. Mismatch. Go Queens!

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    17 July, 2013 at 18:47
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    #33 Woltrui

    @jakes: Jakes die Affies /Marritzburrow wedstryd is in Pretoria. Begin 13h30.

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    17 July, 2013 at 18:47
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    #32 tandemfitarborsurculus

    “op papier” en “op die veld” is en was nog nooit direk eweredig aan mekaar nie …

    die anale van die paarl interskole sal dit bevestig inteendeel …

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    17 July, 2013 at 18:14
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    #31 Djou

    @jakes: Niks Blou Bulspanne die naweek nie. Maar hierna speel die Valke se wenner (EG Jansen/Kempton) teen wenner tussen Garsies (No 2 in Blou Bulstreek) en waarskynlik Florida (nommer 2 in Leeustreek); terwyl die Valke se verloorder teen wenner speel van nommer 4 in Blou Bulstreek/nommer 2 in Luiperdstreek/Limpopostreek. Smaak my die Valke se verloorder het die maklike pad vorentoe.

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    17 July, 2013 at 17:41
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    #30 jakes

    Pretoria boys high vs Grey College- is this match played in Pretoria? Also Affies and PMB College, also Pretoria if I read this above correct. Seeing that PBH and Affies are next to each other, this area is going to be busy.. Might be good to go and watch both games if in Pretoria. Can someone please elaborate on the time and if both played n Pretoria?

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    17 July, 2013 at 17:34
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    #29 Greenwood

    Glenwood play Kzn Development teams at the school Saturday, but not the 1st team .
    Always enjoy these games . there are always some rising stars to be seen among these development teams and there is always a relaxed enjoyable atmosphere. with Affies and College coming up in the next weeks we need to chill a bit

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    17 July, 2013 at 16:35
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    #28 Vleis

    @bhkgpa: Your reply indicates that you have not been impacted by such a situation before. Without wanting to be rude, naive is a word that springs to mind.

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    17 July, 2013 at 16:32
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    #27 Gungets Tuft

    @Scrum Doctor: Glenwood also play 3rd Term, College play them on 3rd August, 2 weeks time, after College have played Affies (Away) and PBHS (Home).

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    17 July, 2013 at 16:12
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    #26 Scrum Doctor

    Only one KZN school on this list ! A very sad state of affairs ! If you want to run with the big dogs you have to play in the third term !

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    17 July, 2013 at 15:44
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    #25 PaarlBok

    @bhkgpa: Ons in die Paarl weet dit maar alte goed. Paul Roos se u16s het gemors met Gim.

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    17 July, 2013 at 15:34
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    #24 bhkgpa

    @Maroon: thanks will make time to watch this game

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    17 July, 2013 at 15:26
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    #23 bhkgpa

    @PaarlBok: glo my op papier moes baie spanne al baie wedstryde gewen het, maar het nie. Tussen die lyne gebeur die dinge gewoonlik. sal steeds verrassing wees as Boishaai hulle wen.

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    17 July, 2013 at 15:25
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    #22 bhkgpa

    @Vleis: but the WP team did win the GK week so then it is just a normal game with a winner and a loser, how many players in the GK team is not at stake here.

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    17 July, 2013 at 15:23
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    #21 PaarlBok

    @Vleis: Sien die eerste pos, my GalPil vriend het ‘n weddenskap aan. Hy het tuisveld voordeel, so mag dalk reg wees. WP u16 log. http://www.mycomlink.co.za/posting.php?i=2607

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    17 July, 2013 at 15:12
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    #20 jakes

    @ Valke- baie dankie- Weet enige een wat gebeur by die Blou bulle makroskole ten opsigte van die Beeld trofee??

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    17 July, 2013 at 15:11
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    #19 Vleis

    …so if PR wins the u16 battle, can they claim to be the best province in the country? :lol: :wink: 8-O

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    17 July, 2013 at 15:09
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    #18 PaarlBok

    @bhkgpa: Paul Roos het ‘n top u16 rugby groep, op papier behoort al drie hul spanne te wen teen Boishaai.

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    17 July, 2013 at 15:08
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    #17 Vleis

    @bhkgpa: Probably because Paul Roos is the top ranked team in the u16 age group but got one player into the WP GK squad, while HJS is the 18th ranked u16 team, but got six players into the WP GK squad..

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    17 July, 2013 at 15:07
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    #16 Maroon

    @bhkgpa: The Paul Roos u/16 team is unbeaten (lost a game at u/14 level) and games against Boishaai are always very close.

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    17 July, 2013 at 15:00
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    #15 bhkgpa

    why is the under 16 match a “much anticipated” match?

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    17 July, 2013 at 13:34
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    #14 Maroon

    @BoishaaiPa: wat bedoel jy? Ek word formeel genooi :)

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    17 July, 2013 at 12:38
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    #13 BoishaaiPa

    @tandemfitarborsurculus: Enige ouer/ondersteuner is welkom in die klubhuis….ons laat selfs Paul Roosers soos Maroon daar toe!…

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    17 July, 2013 at 12:31
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    #12 valke

    @jakes: Weer by Isak Steyl stadion in van der Bijl park. Grant Khomo was ook onlangs daar aangebied.
    Wedstryd behoort so 1 uur te begin. Transvalia vs. Hugenote behoort so 11:45 se kant te wees.

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    17 July, 2013 at 11:26
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    #11 Maroon

    @BoishaaiPa: hahaha! Ek is reg!

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    17 July, 2013 at 11:16
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    #10 CharlesZA

    Stellenberg playing against Bellville High this week.

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    17 July, 2013 at 11:11
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    #9 Redblack White

    Mmmmmm…. So Maritzburg to cause a stir in Pretoria this weekend??

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    17 July, 2013 at 11:01
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    #8 tandemfitarborsurculus

    @BoishaaiPa: wie mag almal in die klubhuis kom ?

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    17 July, 2013 at 10:34
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    #7 QC86

    @Vleis: Sure,will do,some big games on Sat,Hudson never do well at Selborne but be careful at Hudson’s ground

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    17 July, 2013 at 09:56
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    #6 jakes

    @ Valke- Yes,laas jaar se finaal tussen die twee was seker nog een van die beste ooit..Jansen met 4 punte gewen. Weet jy dalk waar die finale die saterdag gespeel word??

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    17 July, 2013 at 09:47
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    #5 Vleis

    @QC86: I’d appreciate it if you could let me know what happens in the u15 game. If memory serves, Hudson had a very strong team last year with a number of boys who had matured very early. I think they may have slipped a little this year, but not by too much. On the other hand Selborne’s u15 team beat GCB this year….so it should be an interesting game!

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    17 July, 2013 at 09:42
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    #4 valke

    @jakes: Wag al lank vir die Kempton – EG finaal.
    Tyd dat daardie twee “big Schools” , Transvalia en Hugenote ook bietjie regte regby kom speel.

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    17 July, 2013 at 09:26
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    #3 jakes

    Some big Beeld regional finals being played- EG Jansen -Kempton park (Falcons) Monnas-Florida (Lions) HTS Middelburg- Nelspruit( Pumas)

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    17 July, 2013 at 09:22
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    #2 QC86

    Beet,Selborne play Hudson :mrgreen:

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    17 July, 2013 at 09:04
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    #1 BoishaaiPa

    Yes, and a little sidebet bewteen myself and another blogger on that u/16 match as well!…Going to be interesting in the clubhouse after the match!

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    17 July, 2013 at 08:42