| EP CRAVEN WEEK | SCHOOL | |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Basi Malesu | 1 of 5 St Andrew’s |
| 2 | Corne Slabbert | 1 of 6 Grey HS |
| 3 | Bame Malesu | 2 of 5 St Andrew’s |
| 4 | Dumisa Ngcivana | 2 of 6 Grey HS |
| 5 | Laken Gray | 3 of 6 Grey HS |
| 6 | Hendri du Toit | 1 of 2 Nico Malan |
| 7 | Regardt Ferreira | 2 of 2 Nico Malan |
| 8 | Ryben du Pont | 1 of 3 Brandwag |
| 9 | Jaco Nell | 1 of 4 Marlow |
| 10 | Juandre Liebenberg | 1 of 2 Framesby |
| 11 | Joshua Oosthuysen | 4 of 6 Grey HS |
| 12 | Charlie Flemming | 3 of 5 St Andrew’s |
| 14 | Liyema Matyolweni | 5 of 6 Grey HS |
| 13 | Lennox Holster | 2 of 4 Marlow |
| 15 | Enrique Franks | 6 of 6 Grey HS |
| 16 | Chris Poole | 4 of 5 St Andrew’s |
| 17 | Zuki Sali | 2 of 3 Brandwag |
| 18 | Wiehan Pretorius | 3 of 4 Marlow |
| 19 | Christian Roebert | 5 of 5 St Andrew’s |
| 20 | Kelvin Kanenungo | 1 of 1 Victoria Park |
| 21 | Octavian Muller | 3 of 3 Brandwag |
| 22 | Monray Potgieter | 2 of 2 Framesby |
| 23 | Claude Jacobs | 4 of 4 Marlow |
@Playa: dale selborne is also one of those matches that can define a season
@Smallies: Of course
@Wyvern: Indeed…hence the ‘underdogs’ was in inverted commas. Tough to choose a winner in any of those games – Grey over Selborne, or even Dale over Selborne for that matter would be huge upsets.
P.S. Though form suggests they should lose to Selborne, SAC and Dale, Queens with their newfound confidence could be a disrupter. Beware of the wounded Kudu
@Playa: Hmmmm if i had to call an upset in those that you listed, i’d probably go Grey with a win over Selborne…
@Playa: dont forget 18 aug Aliwal-north vs Burgersdorp… Biggest game in the NEC
@Playa:
Now, St Andrews has lost to Marlow; Kingswood has beaten Nico Malan; Framesby lost to Grey.
Still to come:
1. Dale vs SAC & vs Selborne
2. Framesby vs Nico Malan
3. SAC vs QC
4. NM vs Brandwag
5. KC vs Graeme
6. Selborne vs Grey
If these games go the way of the ‘underdogs’, then the order, as we saw it could be disturbed.
@CharlesZA: Ongelukkig ja..My 35ste reunie is op dieselfde naweek. Gewoonlik word dit die laaste naweek in Augustus gehou, maar met my geluk is dit vanjaar geskuif!
@WesterBoy: not a bad top 5 considering all of them are basically small karoo dorpies, only hanklip in a big town
@BoishaaiPa: That will be a cracker. To think just 20 years ago a top 5 would more often than not have the boys’ schools only. Maybe throw in Dan Pienaar and Kingswood in the odd year. Never would one have thought to see this as a possibility.
Also now there is Grey who could possibly not be one of the top 2.Theyve lost to SAC and a loss to Selborne will most likely see them 3rd.Unless College fumbles their 3rd term games.
@Smallies: I think you right, they could dominate the BP rankings next year
@BoishaaiPa: Mis jy Paarl interskole?
@WesterBoy: my personal E C top 5 will be 1 aliwal-north 2 Burgersdorp 3 Volkskool GR 4 Marlow 5 Hangklip????and then the rest, but thats just my personal opinion
@Wyvern: I posted the Cambridge Fest results on the EC 2018 fixtures & results section if you interested.
@Playa: Agree with you on your top five.
@Wyvern: I’ve only seen Selborne’s scores against Union and Pearson. They sent their 2nds. Both games produced big scores – just can’t remember what they were
@Playa: Your version is closest to what I see as well…Top 4 is a given…Between a couple of schools who will end up 5th. I will be in Uitenhage to watch the Brandwag vs Nico Malan game on the 4th Aug..Should be a cracker.
@Playa: Agree.
Does anyone have any scores from the Cambridge Festival?
@Smallies: @Wyvern: Very interesting. Let’s not forget Brandwag in that mix. On results thus far I’d give the 5th spot to Nico Malan.
In my view, Selborne, St Andrews, Framesby and Grey have pretty much cemented their spots in that top 5…then there is still:
1. Dale vs St Andrews & Selborne at home (much as Dale will go into both games as underdogs,the are unbeaten at the Graveyard this year thus far)
2. Nico Malan vs Brandwag & Kingswood
3. Graeme vs Kingswood
4. Marlow vs St Andrews
Depending on where those games go, in my view anyone of Dale, Nico, Brandwag, Kingswood, Graeme or Marlow can take that number 5 spot.
@Smallies: @Queenian: I’d say that’s pretty much spot on. I think 5th spot will be determined when KC play Nico Malan in a few weeks time.
@Smallies: EP will be more like grey marlow st andrews brandwag nico
@Queenian: eastern cape top 5, not in any order wil most likely be selborne, marlow, st andrews, grey, and then either dale or nico malan
I think the reason why Framesby does not have more players in is not because they were not at trials but more that for example there 6/7 are good but no were near the two Nico boys. Also i think Framesby raking flatters them a bit if you look at it i would say the top 3 teams in the ECAPE this year are St Andrews/Selborne/GreyPE and so far they have only played one that been St Andrews and they lost to them at home they mught beat Grey but Selborne will put 20 past them.
@Smallies: nee haar naam klink baie soos n bekende eiland net anderkant Madagaskar.
@Riempies: het maar n kans gevat en gedink dis jou vrou se naam… Riette en kloppers lui net n klokkie
@Smallies: Sy ken al die name wat jy genoem het. Riette lui nie n klokkie nie..
@Smallies: franks, nie adams nie
@2021: daar is actually 5 2016 grant khomo spelers is die op span slabbert, grey du toit, adams en jacobs
@Vleis: Ek het nogal op n interresante aspek afgekom. Die Griekwas, Grens, Blou Bulle,Boland en WP het almal 7 of meer spelers in 2018 se CW sqaud wat in 2016 Grant Khomo u/16 spanne gehaal het.Die OP daar teenoor het net 2 spelers. Sê vir my dat daar meer kontinuteit moet wees by eers genoemde spanne.
@Veg: that side went from u13 to u 16 with only four losses…
@Smallies: Aliwal had a good little side.I am sure the boys really looked forward to it.A bit of rugby and sea in JBay what more could you ask for
@Smallies: the weather were always bad there but the day was a highlight for the boys every year aliwal always go there with u9 to u 13 A teams sort of a tradition at the primary school, pa en seun naweek,
@Veg i went on those trips from 2008 to 2012 my boy played 12 for aliwal that day
@Smallies: Between coming back from overseas and farming I was teaching in Port Alfred and I took my U13 side to the Stuilting rugby day in Humansdorp and bumped into Jannie there with the Aliwal guys.Think it was a dad and kid trip.May be you were there?.The wind was blowing so hard that most kicks went backwards.
@Veg: jannies boys played with my boy at aliwal primary up to u 14 when they left for marlow, one made the epcd acadamy side
@Smallies: I didn’t play for them full time just when I was back from holiday from Varsity.Played with Jannie but at that stage Henk was still playing for Free State.I then went overseas for 11 years and was playing social rugby there.I know all those guys.I am back farming in Barkly.Jannies twins both play Marlow 1sXV and Henk has got a hele trop at Grey.I see the Black Jacks are doing very well again.There are a whole lot of teams in that league that I have never heard of.We used to play against Steynsburg,Colesburg,Aliwal,Burgersdorp etc
@Veg: played for goedemoed 1994 to 1999,and aliwal north 2000 to 2003
@Veg: you played for the black jacks??? ???wow, i played plenty games against them, Jannie Pretoruis, Henk vd Merwe, Frik Tauber…. Unfortunately goedemoed rugby has ceased to exist in 1999, some of us continued to play for aliwal-north, the black jacks are the current league champs
@Smallies: Does Goedemoed still have a side.I remember play against them for Barkly when I was back from varsity.Don’t know if you were there yet as it would of been around about 1990.Had a guy I knew Alexander Grist who worked there for a while.
@Hooit: ek gaan nogal gereeld hof toe daar, baie by due tronk ook ek sal beslis n draai maak
@Smallies: Dit is ja. As jy weer in Zastron area is gaan draai daar by dept van arbeid
@Hooit: ??? ironies hoe klein die wereld is ne…
@Smallies: Hy onthou die likkewane.
@Riempies: my bynaam was… WA…
@Smallies: in Dalview gebly. Pa was prokenoster op dorp. Sal haar vannaand bietjie vrae. Wat het hulle jou geroep?
@Riempies: sy was saam met ernie squiers, stephan mocke, bussie engelbreght, en rian Robinson hulle in matriek gewees, Riette???
@Riempies: waar in brakpan het hulle gebly? Ons het in Brenthurst gebly, my pa het by Felicitas skool vir gestremdes skool gehou
@Smallies: Dan was jy so twee jaar na my vrou en die hele klomp susters. Kloppers.
@Riempies: yes 1990 matriek geskryf daar…
@Smallies: Jy nie gese jy was in Brakpan op skool nie? Stofberg as ek reg onthou?
@Smallies: van nature kwaai
@Hooit: vra hom bietjie of hy goedemoed se likkewane kan onthou
@Hooit: hy het altyd kwaai gemoan as ek hom uit die lynstane uitstamp terwyl ek my slot support, dan hoor jy net daar van bo af ag neee F@k man…. Dan is hy kwaai vir die res van die game???
@Smallies: jip
@Hooit: as ek reg onthou het hy slot gejol…
@Smallies: Corne van Niekerk
@Frik: That would probably be because the boys that paid R200 each to participate in the trials would be angry if non-paying players were chosen.
@Hooit: wat is sy naam, as dit is wie ek dink dan ken ek hom goed
@Smallies: My broer nou 47. Jare vir Zastron gespeel. Nou met afrigting by die skool betrokke. Is die Dept van Arbeid se streekhoof in die area
@Wyvern: Not correct, the head coach in 2016 was Mr. Derik Olivier from Marlow. Cannot remember the ass. coach be he was also not from Framesby. The reason for fewer Framesby boys this year is due to their absence at final trials – they were at Sanix. EP policy is that you cannot be selected if you are absent at final trials, unless you had previously represented EP, such as Grant Khomo for example..
@Hooit: ek ken so n paar mense daar… Meeste van die ouens by dcs wat onder ons val… En dan ouens saam wie ek ruggas gejol het
@Smallies: How well do u know the Zastron people?
@Smallies: Burgersdorp primary also moved to Freestate about 4 years ago
@Veg: aliwal actually had 5 boys at Meyer Sauerman trails… 3 made the EPCD academy side..
@Veg: the primary school already moved to freestate, i think it will only be a matter of time before the Highschool follows…
@Smallies: With them doing away with EPCD.Where does this leave the Aliwal chaps?I would imagine these coaches etc in PE havent seen anyone from Aliwal play and are not likely to.Are they able to join into the Free State? Unfortunately with the demise of North Eastern Cape and all the other rural provinces your chance of exposure if you are on the platteland is so slim.
@McCulleys Workshop: Selborne head coach, Hudson assistant coach and Stirling team manager
@Wyvern: On that basis who are the coaches of the border side?
@Vleis: Was the (perceived) reasoning behind that in 2016 not because the CW coach at the time was the Framesby coach?
Which begs the question and to @Smallies: point, who are the coaches this year? Looking at the numbers, money on Grey????
@Wyvern: The EP CW selections leave me scratching my head sometimes. Two years ago, Framesby were having a poor year (not in Top 50) and yet they had about 8 or 9 in the CW team and anotther 4 in the AW team. This year, Framesby are having their best season in a long time (Top 10 per BHP ranking) and they only have two in the CW team??
@Beet: who are the EP coaches
@BoishaaiPa: I think you are spot on. EP don’t necessarily need one strong school to drive a competitive provincial u18 team but they do need their players from all the different schools to gel. With the injection of Marlow, St Andrew’s, Graeme and Kingswood players (previous EPCD), it complicates selections but should make for a stronger team if selectors and coaches get it right.
@Rainier: Good to see my old primary school still has some competitive teams!
Unfortunately EP has relied too much on Grey High to provide the bulk of the players lately and if they have an off season or a dip in form it looks like the continuity and combinations are missing. Individually there is nothing wrong with the player’s abilities, I just think the coaches were so used to players knowing each other they have forgotten how to gel players from different schools into a team as a unit.
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The best rugby tournament in South Africa…
@beet: Henri du Toit did not play – he will make an enormous difference.
My dark horse pick for SA Schools.
Feedback about EP’s form from the South Coast interprovincial at Oudtshoorn a few weeks back suggested it was not great, so hopefully they can up their game at CW.
I’m surprised that there are only 2 Framesby players in the squad.
Geluk aan die 3 Brandwag manne..