| Free State CW 2018 | Provisional Team | |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Hendrik Wessels | 1 of 15 Grey College |
| 2 | Andre-Hugo Venter | 2 of 15 Grey College |
| 3 | Albert Annandale | 1 of 1 Sentraal |
| 4 | Ofentse Maphuti | 1 of 7 Louis Botha |
| 5 | Danwich Beukes | 3 of 15 Grey College |
| 6 | Samkele Mzayiya | 2 of 7 Louis Botha |
| 7 | WJ Steenkamp | 4 of 15 Grey College |
| 8 | Werner Gouws | 5 of 15 Grey College |
| 9 | Ross Braude | 6 of 15 Grey College |
| 10 | Zander du Plessis | 7 of 15 Grey College |
| 11 | Ian Small-Smith | 8 of 15 Grey College |
| 12 | Franco Smith | 9 of 15 Grey College |
| 13 | Wyclef Vlitoor | 10 of 15 Grey College |
| 14 | Brandon-Lee Adams | 3 of 7 Louis Botha |
| 15 | Richard Kriel | 11 of 15 Grey College |
| 16 | Francois Boonzaaier | 4 of 7 Louis Botha |
| 17 | Lihle Lokwane | 5 of 7 Louis Botha |
| 18 | Herman Aggenbag | 12 of 15 Grey College |
| 19 | Nhlanhla Senoamadi | 6 of 7 Louis Botha |
| 20 | De Wet Marais | 13 of 15 Grey College |
| 21 | Delano Williams | 1 of 1 Jim Fouché |
| 22 | Jade Human | 14 of 15 Grey College |
| 23 | Lehlonolo Lithabe | 7 of 7 Louis Botha |
| 24 | George Cronjé | 15 of 15 Grey College |
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@BrotherBear: ja as jy so daarna kyk is dit maar n probleem
@Smallies: jy weet waarvan ek praat. Gaan oor opsies wat mens kan uitvoer met beskikbare talent. Gaan ook oor ervaring van spelers wat al in bepaalde druk situasies was. Gaan oor hoe vinnig jy kan aanpas by hoer pas en intensiteit. Opsies by ander provinsies is, met respek, baie groter en groter poel van talent. Jy kan ook makliker speler kies wat aanpasbaar is en vinnig leer.
@BrotherBear: nie regtig nie, dis baie makliker om n patroon te vestig as slegs 7 spelers daardie patroon moet baas raak, daarteen kan wp se span dalk uit 9 skole kom, bulls 5 skole leeus 5 skole
@Djou: Carl se terugvoer oor Griekwas aanstellings op ruggas verduidelik baie.
@Rainier: Cheetahs beat Griquas 83-0 and game stopped early. However I think Griquas don’t have a competitive team this year judging from some results. E.g Zwartkop beat Diamantveld etc.
@Rooikat: Louis Botha is the only really reliable source of PD for FS schools. Bulls were more proactive in their approach (read Garsies ++). I therefore take my hats off to Free State i.t.o. their recent “results”. They probably have the toughest coach challenge of all the ” Groot honde”.
@Rooikat: Louis Botha always produce teams that include a lot of PD players.
@BoishaaiPa: Agreed. The old boy factor is a huge one. Your point about farming is also important – boys from farming stock are likely to be damn tough.
@Rooikat: Good point about coaching and passion. However, I think that exceptional talent from outlying regions will tend to one of the ‘rugby academy’ schools.
@AbsolutMenlo: Definitief
@Leelu: ? Kom jy Saterdag bietjie vir Menlo ondersteun?
@AbsolutMenlo: Youtube / Ebook Wayne Goldsmith.
@Rooikat: ?
@AbsolutMenlo The talent code by Daniel Coyle.
@TheGoose: I would guess that more than 80% of the boys in Paarl and Stellenbosch schools comes from within a 50km radius. The other 20% will be from further afield and from farming areas. I know that a lot of old boys send their sons to their Alma Maters even is he is currently farming 100’s of km’s away. The Boishaai 2011 1st team had 6 old boy’s sons in the starting line up. That is most probably a record that few schools will be able to top.
@Rooikat: Skill building = quality coaching, commitment and passion … I like that!!
Interesting topic … some good “reads” that you can recommend?
I cannot help but notice that Louis Botha has seven players in the team. They lost 73-0 to Marlow and 68 something to the Grey Cherries, both these teams are not in the top 20. Surely it is a high number of provincial players for a average school team?
@Goose Just to add to my previous reply, skill building is precisely what happens at the top schools, but it can happen at any school with good coaching etc in place.
@Goose I agree that recruitment is a factor. But if you go and study the so called “talent hotbeds” of the world you will find that research shows that skill building is the key factor for producing top sportsmen, musicians etc. Skill building is achieved by a number of things, but importantly quality coaching, commitment and passion. For example Nigel High School (yes the school does exist!) years ago through the passion and commitment of one teacher and 6 learners produced the best athletics team in SA, and a silver medalist at the Olympics, with no recruitment, money, top facilities, big name coaches etc. There are numerous other examples. The point is, our mindset in SA is that if you show “talent” you must go to a certain school to succeed, where skill building scientific research shows otherwise.
@chief: die span gaan gaan ver vorder op die CW
Vrystaat 80-0 Griquas wedstryd vroeër klaargemaak.
@Rooikat: A big factor is recruitment as well as a rugby tradition or family tradition that attracts talent from far and wide.
A brilliant Afrikaans rugby player at 12-13 years old that is on, for example, the Natal South Coast where there are no established rugby schools, will seek out a school that can do something bigger with that talent. Michael Horak is an excellent example of this – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Horak
It would be an interesting exercise to look at the primary schools and hometowns of the boys at Grey, Glenwood, and the Paarl and Stellenbosch schools.
To all the rugby fans. I have been following the results on this website for a while and it left me wondering. How can it be, for instance in the EC that a school like Daniel Pienaar with nearly a 1 000 boys perform rather poorly and on the other hand Marlow with 230 boys do much better, both are “rugby schools”. Or the Free State producing only one great rugby school, Grey, probably the best in the history of SA schools rugby, while the other Free State schools are average. But the Boland region on it’s own has 4 top rugby schools close to each other, and the Western Cape about 8 great rugby schools. To find an answer I read a lot about the science of skill building, whether it is sport or music etc, and I found that it all comes down to quality coaching and how you practice. There are numerous examples of unlikely places producing great sportsmen etc. It is no coincidence that certain schools are always in the top 10 rugby schools in SA and others never. If you investigate the programmes at these schools you will find that they are good at sport and academics, and not just rugby.These schools work harder and have quality coaches and a culture of expectation that the children will perform and achieve.
Die span het die potensiaal om die hele besigheid te wen…